2008's four core sets were - Phantom Darkness - Light of Destruction - The Duelist Genesis - Crossroads of Chaos This was one of the most goated years ever in terms of the quality of the cards offered in the sets
agreed and most recently, pote (spright/tearlaments) and mama (ishizu/reprints) rival 2008 in a very big way. runick and kashtira debuted as well. 2022's "graveyard vs banish" theme is the main reason why ygo is finally heading into the right direction and unlike tele-dad, "tear 0" was actually the first t0 format to be a healthy one for the game.
mama wasn't a core set and the main runick cards were a side set as well. yes pote and dabl were very good, however bach and difo weren't on the same level as the others, which is why 2008 > 2022 for the core sets for me @@bayar_
I scrambled so hard to get 3 Dark Armed for Sjc Columbus in 2008 it was so insane.. Here I am this 16 year old kid trying to get 3 $220 cards last second for an event with no backup deck 😂 ah the nostalgia
Law's content has always been great. His Duel Links retrospectives were peak earbud content when I used to walk to work. And I've played maybe five hours of Duel Links total.
5:30 Invasion of Chaos was the most impactful set of all time, as far as how much of a 'leap' the game took forward. If Chaos Emperor was unerrated and unbanned it would still be a menace today.
Law makes crazy good stuff. His longform essays are insanely high quality. Like, I don’t even play Duel Links, but I’ve watched his History of Duel Links videos countless times
For anyone wondering about the zombiesworn deck Josh was talking about, Lithium had it featured in 1 or 2 cross banlist cups. By 2008 standards, its completely insane when it goes off
1:14:45 I absolutely still have Gorz PTSD and will attack with my weakest monster first. This video ends pretty much right before I got back into the game. Though, it took me until The Shining Darkness to get decent and make a good deck in Infernity.
Specifically remember during the Phantom Darkness sneak peak happened. Everyone was scrambling for Dark Creator and it was more expensive than Dark Armed and i picked one up. And then a week later on release Dark Armed skyrocketed in price lol god i feel old
It's kind of funny watching Josh be nostalgic for 2008 while we're also watching Cimoo and MBT pull their hair out at how things are 10 years later with Gouki format.
Absolutely loved that time, played 42 tournaments over the course of 45 day summer holidays in 2008. School was just full of Yugioh for me, good times.
I miss those days. I was 10 at the time and just went into competetive. I remember downloading the vods of the german nationals from etcg after the event. All hail the single glad beast in top cut.
that caius structure deck was the first time i made a 'competitive' deck i got 3 of them and it was banish monarchs with D.D. scout plane and survivor as my tribute fodder at the time i never really thought just how oppressive turning the GY off was cuz in my 10 year old mind more removed from play cards meant my gren maju and golden homunculus got stronger and scout plane and survivor kept coming back
I know the 'react Andy' is ironic and the importance of watching the original video. Just wanted to say how great it is to have a second voice, someone who has experienced the game back then, adding opinions. Love these videos
Im old so invasion of choas will be the most influential set of all time for me. But during DAD/Tele DAD format I knew people that didnt pay rent just to build DAD /TeleDAD. Shit was crazy
I was lucky enough to come across a Gold Series set 1 when I was young, I ended up trading it to like this... 40 year old collector who dressed like a cowboy and offered up a large binder of halos that included other meta cards. So I got to build like 3-4 decks all halos (actually start a collection/have trades) but he def came out on top probably a couple hundred lol
I like nekroz as a time wizard format. Shaddols. Qliphort. Burning abyss. Ritual beast and satellerknight. Add clowns and yang zings and volcanic saw fun decks. It has variety and play styles and match ups matter.
See, there's this 3 starred little asshole named Djinn Releaser of Rituals that makes Nekroz format unfun, in addition to Maxx C and Vanities both being legal. I'm working on Dogmatika Nekroz in paper bc thankfully the problem cards are gone and the deck is kinda fun in modern yugioh.
One thing to note about HAT as it was and HAT how it's evolved is that they're two different formats. There's a lot less Fire Fist, Infernity, and especially Sylvans running around. Maxx C actually lives up the the Bug of Balance promise there and the best decks seem to be advantage grinders like Mermail, Cardcartifact Traptrix, Geargia, and Bujins.
I was there in the 2008 phantom darkness/light of destruction craze, and I can tell you gladiator beasts during light of destruction was not an expensive deck. (long post) When they got released in 2017 with gladiator's assault and heraklinos was kinda all they had and was a secret rare, sure. In 2008, however, when gladiator beast saw a massive spike in usage and results, it was easily THE BEST deck that you could get for cheap. Bestiari was common, laquari rare, darius common, hoplomus common, murmillo super rare, proving ground common. Once Gyzarus entered the game in 2008 and told heraklinos to gtfo as the best GB boss, it was just decided. The deck was officially a problem with like 80% of it being no higher than rare. Keep in mind that you could also just fill the deck with cards that had already been common for ages. Things like book of moon, waboku, enemy controller, threatening roar. That's like 30 cards of the main deck right there, and they're basically all common. How would it be expensive? Gyzarus, test tiger and heraklinos were the only expensive cards, and really, only gyzarus and TT were staples. Gyzarus was a super rare btw, and at the time it ran for about 45 USD. It was not a hard card to pull, it was just hard to actually buy singles of because everyone wanted it. The card was probably worth 5 damn bucks but it elevated to the 40's range just on demand alone. People were basically playing 1 heraklinos at that point, and I hoenstly believe it was not needed, they probably already owned it or just really wanted to play the other GB boss. Test tiger was an UR and the only other expensive staple, but I believe it was still around the realm of less than 50 usd. Compare that to DAD decks. DAD was at somewhere around 100-200, but some local shops would elevate it to even 300 because of the insane demand and people just not wanting to let the card go, which was the case of my local shop. That's 3 copies btw. Allure of darkness would sell for 30, 3 copies as well. Destiny draw? Around 20, zerato at 80. In a universe where DAD was roaming the earth full force, it's insane to call GB an expensive deck. It was cheap and super fun. I don't believe it was winning because it was better than dad, it just had many more players.
Check out ua-cam.com/users/thelawygo who made this amazing Video!
I would be interested by a ranking of all formats. Please do that!
2008's four core sets were
- Phantom Darkness
- Light of Destruction
- The Duelist Genesis
- Crossroads of Chaos
This was one of the most goated years ever in terms of the quality of the cards offered in the sets
agreed and most recently, pote (spright/tearlaments) and mama (ishizu/reprints) rival 2008 in a very big way. runick and kashtira debuted as well. 2022's "graveyard vs banish" theme is the main reason why ygo is finally heading into the right direction and unlike tele-dad, "tear 0" was actually the first t0 format to be a healthy one for the game.
mama wasn't a core set and the main runick cards were a side set as well. yes pote and dabl were very good, however bach and difo weren't on the same level as the others, which is why 2008 > 2022 for the core sets for me @@bayar_
Shoutout to all us kids playing batteryman decks on a budget back in the day
I scrambled so hard to get 3 Dark Armed for Sjc Columbus in 2008 it was so insane.. Here I am this 16 year old kid trying to get 3 $220 cards last second for an event with no backup deck 😂 ah the nostalgia
Law's content has always been great. His Duel Links retrospectives were peak earbud content when I used to walk to work. And I've played maybe five hours of Duel Links total.
5:30 Invasion of Chaos was the most impactful set of all time, as far as how much of a 'leap' the game took forward. If Chaos Emperor was unerrated and unbanned it would still be a menace today.
Law makes crazy good stuff. His longform essays are insanely high quality.
Like, I don’t even play Duel Links, but I’ve watched his History of Duel Links videos countless times
For anyone wondering about the zombiesworn deck Josh was talking about, Lithium had it featured in 1 or 2 cross banlist cups. By 2008 standards, its completely insane when it goes off
31:10 same. 2007-2008-2009-2010 were the times when Yu-Gi-Oh was most popular. I played locals every week. Everyone of my friends also played Yu-Gi-Oh
statistically its more popular now than ever tho
Raging tempest into maximum crisis was a pretty crazy 1-2 punch main set release order.
Let’s be real, 07-10 were the glory years for our generation across most media. Film, games, memes, etc…
1:14:45 I absolutely still have Gorz PTSD and will attack with my weakest monster first.
This video ends pretty much right before I got back into the game. Though, it took me until The Shining Darkness to get decent and make a good deck in Infernity.
35:04 that’s because back then yugioh was actually fun and you didn’t get blown away in 1 turn
this guy sure loves league of legends themes. What a man of culture
Specifically remember during the Phantom Darkness sneak peak happened. Everyone was scrambling for Dark Creator and it was more expensive than Dark Armed and i picked one up. And then a week later on release Dark Armed skyrocketed in price lol god i feel old
It's kind of funny watching Josh be nostalgic for 2008 while we're also watching Cimoo and MBT pull their hair out at how things are 10 years later with Gouki format.
He didn’t even mention the six sam card from PTDN with the draw 2 effect
i just found his channel yesterday and i really enjoy it
Absolutely loved that time, played 42 tournaments over the course of 45 day summer holidays in 2008. School was just full of Yugioh for me, good times.
It's so joyful to watch you Josh
What a time capsule. I'm blessed I got to live through all this craziness and even attend a Shonen Jump or two back in the day.
In 2008, Lightsworns didnt had Charge of the light brigade yet
The nostalgia rush when watching this at stream. Can't believe i actually have strong feels on yugioh
I miss those days. I was 10 at the time and just went into competetive. I remember downloading the vods of the german nationals from etcg after the event. All hail the single glad beast in top cut.
lightsworn used Outstanding Dog Marron to prevent deck out
I remember barrowing a full glad beast deck as a kid and still losing because i didnt understand the gimmick
that caius structure deck was the first time i made a 'competitive' deck i got 3 of them and it was banish monarchs with D.D. scout plane and survivor as my tribute fodder
at the time i never really thought just how oppressive turning the GY off was cuz in my 10 year old mind more removed from play cards meant my gren maju and golden homunculus got stronger and scout plane and survivor kept coming back
ROTD is top 5 without question.
I know the 'react Andy' is ironic and the importance of watching the original video. Just wanted to say how great it is to have a second voice, someone who has experienced the game back then, adding opinions. Love these videos
1 hour 20 minute lunch break goes hard 😂
TeleDaD will always be so nostalgic to me . I was a junior in HS
Im old so invasion of choas will be the most influential set of all time for me. But during DAD/Tele DAD format I knew people that didnt pay rent just to build DAD /TeleDAD. Shit was crazy
TheLaw really is the GOAT
I was lucky enough to come across a Gold Series set 1 when I was young, I ended up trading it to like this... 40 year old collector who dressed like a cowboy and offered up a large binder of halos that included other meta cards. So I got to build like 3-4 decks all halos (actually start a collection/have trades) but he def came out on top probably a couple hundred lol
Gladiator beast the bane of me existance
Look at that pie chart.
I wanna see full power tearlaments ishizu vs full power dad return
I like nekroz as a time wizard format. Shaddols. Qliphort. Burning abyss. Ritual beast and satellerknight. Add clowns and yang zings and volcanic saw fun decks. It has variety and play styles and match ups matter.
clowns was a little too much but I agree it was a fun time and have the fondest memories playing that era. Ritual Beasts strongest!
no.
Only if it was the format with Djinn banned
See, there's this 3 starred little asshole named Djinn Releaser of Rituals that makes Nekroz format unfun, in addition to Maxx C and Vanities both being legal. I'm working on Dogmatika Nekroz in paper bc thankfully the problem cards are gone and the deck is kinda fun in modern yugioh.
Are the formatting of these videos based on NickyBoi’s league season rewinds, or are the both based on something else im not aware of?
I thought baboon was multiple cl ruling change
Title is cap, its only 80 minutes. i am heavily affected by this. Please change it or make it longer.
One thing to note about HAT as it was and HAT how it's evolved is that they're two different formats. There's a lot less Fire Fist, Infernity, and especially Sylvans running around. Maxx C actually lives up the the Bug of Balance promise there and the best decks seem to be advantage grinders like Mermail, Cardcartifact Traptrix, Geargia, and Bujins.
this is misleading as infernity was by far the best deck during that format
Outside of Kaiser, Bujin is pretty fun
I love Synchros.
Random question: will you do a speedrun to master 1 with Gage just the diamond 1 speedrun
Back when yugioh was still yugioh and turns didn’t take 10 min
Joshua: I'm trying to pinpoint the time when I could play Meta decks.
Me: I was never able to play meta decks🙃.
Oh yes, the good old days of getting reamed by these decks as a monarch player back then lmfao
Joshua schmidt
I was there in the 2008 phantom darkness/light of destruction craze, and I can tell you gladiator beasts during light of destruction was not an expensive deck. (long post)
When they got released in 2017 with gladiator's assault and heraklinos was kinda all they had and was a secret rare, sure. In 2008, however, when gladiator beast saw a massive spike in usage and results, it was easily THE BEST deck that you could get for cheap. Bestiari was common, laquari rare, darius common, hoplomus common, murmillo super rare, proving ground common. Once Gyzarus entered the game in 2008 and told heraklinos to gtfo as the best GB boss, it was just decided. The deck was officially a problem with like 80% of it being no higher than rare. Keep in mind that you could also just fill the deck with cards that had already been common for ages. Things like book of moon, waboku, enemy controller, threatening roar. That's like 30 cards of the main deck right there, and they're basically all common. How would it be expensive?
Gyzarus, test tiger and heraklinos were the only expensive cards, and really, only gyzarus and TT were staples. Gyzarus was a super rare btw, and at the time it ran for about 45 USD. It was not a hard card to pull, it was just hard to actually buy singles of because everyone wanted it. The card was probably worth 5 damn bucks but it elevated to the 40's range just on demand alone. People were basically playing 1 heraklinos at that point, and I hoenstly believe it was not needed, they probably already owned it or just really wanted to play the other GB boss. Test tiger was an UR and the only other expensive staple, but I believe it was still around the realm of less than 50 usd.
Compare that to DAD decks. DAD was at somewhere around 100-200, but some local shops would elevate it to even 300 because of the insane demand and people just not wanting to let the card go, which was the case of my local shop. That's 3 copies btw. Allure of darkness would sell for 30, 3 copies as well. Destiny draw? Around 20, zerato at 80.
In a universe where DAD was roaming the earth full force, it's insane to call GB an expensive deck. It was cheap and super fun. I don't believe it was winning because it was better than dad, it just had many more players.
Law honestly deserves more attention
Valhalla make ya holla
Bls prize card worth millions
I was the awkward crystal beast player at the time :D I hated DAD so much… However, Hero Beats was the first competitive deck I played in that era.
Weaker monster always attack first
Glad beasts were my shxt this era
Choose Blood Mefist for the prize card
You should tip a ycs with lad :) it would be awesome
Hot take, hat sucks becuase the best deck is hat.
Yugioh was really fun back then, but the Morphing Jar + Last Turn deck was annoying to deal with.
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