Yep... Fenix 6 and 830 owner.... I am not sure how sensors, integration, compatibility is not even mentioned in this video as if they didn't matter at all.... Speed sensor, cadence sensor, even e-bike compatibility on the 830, not mentioning that they work out of the box with Strava, Trail Forks and support industry standard track export. Linux, Windows, OSX, Android support ... etc etc etc... A real sports watch vs an office toy ...
I’ve got a Fenix 5X, and the only complaint I have is the accuracy of the heart rate sensor. I’m told the Apple Watch sensor is extremely accurate, which is nice, but Apple doesn’t let Garmin devices use that data. If I could ditch my heart rate strap, I’d gladly do so, but I don’t see a way to do that right now.
Can't imagine ever needing one, or any other smart watch. Not really a big fan of watches in general tho. Having something on the wrist feels weird. Usually just track my rides on the phone.
Garmin Fenix (6 pro x) battery life: 25 days Apple watch : 2.5 days Garmin also works with Windows, Mac, Linux, Android and you are not chained to the Apple store ... It talks to my sensors (speed cadence), transmits my heart rate to my handlebar garmin when I use one. Also has crash detection and dual GPS. BTW: crash detection is useless if you ride rough rocky stuff and/or jumps and do abrupt stops. I triggered it on pretty much every ride. If you wan that, you should get an in-helmet one probably. Now you can pick up a Fenix 6 for around $500. Has integration with pretty much EVERYTHING, from Trail Forks to Strava to .gpx export. IMHO there is no good "do it all" device. If you are serious, you are not going to dive with an Apple Watch. Nor a Garmin. You will get a dive specific Suunto or Scubapro or similar dive computer. I don't see people who ride 4-5+ times a week changing their sport watches to this gimmick.... Come on... now we are "night vision compatible" because they added a red/black mode :O Just my 2c ...
PS ... I don't mean to offend anyone and I am not an Apple hater..... When they start producing computers you can upgrade/repair I might even get one again. I was actually tempted to get an iPhone just for the LIDAR on it, but then I reminded myself of the Apple Store ecosystem I am really not missing :)
Not much a fanboy but i just don’t see anybody making a similar size watch can have 10 times battery, it can not be done with cars for example, it must mean 10 times less usage for battery thus something does not need or is absent as a precise feature.
For most people this will be all they ever need. But Garmin 530 with Trailforks integration and ability to preload defined routes with turn by turn directions is way more practical if your doing serious cycling. Not to mention on bike and chest HR sensors that are more accurate. For hardcore enthusiasts, Dedicated Garmin is more feature rich.
For half the money I think a Garmin Instinct 2 would function better for mountain biking and other activities. Also more durable, I just smashed mine against a tree yesterday and it only left a smudge on the bezel that easily rubbed off with a finger.
You can get it even cheaper because the Apple Watch 6 and newer versions have it too will save you some money unles you want to get the ultra it’s all up to you I got the 6 and a update just released this feature 🤘🏼
Some great points and would definitely be an upgrade over just using your phone, but to recommend this for ONLY cycling is crazy. For about half the price, you can get a Garmin 530 that has all the features you mentioned, plus trail forks navigation (not to mention all the more road cycling centric features). I can only see this being a good purchase if you really want a smartwatch for day to day use, or you are maybe a runner or something as well.
You can get an 830 for $399. Or a Fenix 6X for $449. I agree that either of those are a much better fit if you ride a lot. I actually own both an 830 and a Fenix 6 Pro X. Excellent units with 10x the battery life for the Fenix 6 ( 25 hours estimated :unless you enable all sensors and Wifi 24/7, which I don't ... of course less if you ride 1-2 hours a day, but still comfortably pushing 2 weeks plus on a charge. )
Do yo get cell service with those? I head out with my Apple Watch for long ride, beach trips, etc, and don’t have to carry a cellphone. It syncs up with Strava and I compared it to my garmin head units and its often as accurate or more accurate and I don’t need a chest HR strap. The only cool thing would if it could sync up to power meter. The Apple Watch is also still appropriate for work and doesn’t look like a Casio GSHock…. Lastly, the resale value is great on Apple products, Ive gotten pretty good cash or trade up credits on older Apple watches.
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@@Thomas-fy9yc You are right with the design, Fenix with shirt looks odd. However watch will never be as accurate as chest strap. And if you need navigation either on road or mtb, it is very dangerous to check the wrist during the trail or fast descent. That is the reason, why, if you will start riding a lot, you will use your bike computer in front of you, where you can see all data you need. I tried to ride known mtb trails with watch on, but in hot weather watch tend to slide down on wrist because of sweat. And same cross country skiing, where watch under mittens causing pain. I own AW, however for serious sports I always use Fenix.
Have a Garmin 530 and the Tactix Delta. Use both mountain biking all the time (not at same time). They are beasts and have way better features than this Apple watch with much better battery life.
This is the problem with Apple fanboys, all of these features arent new if you have basically any other smartwatch. Why are you willing to spend 2x price for an inferior product just because it's got an apple logo.
Because now it has all the cutting edge features Garmin and Android had 4 years ago! You have to pay for innovation. /S I did not realize having a face that was protected was a feature. I though all watches had that.
Apple fanboys are fanboys because they usually nail the user interface and usability. Garmin is hot garbage in this regard. But I couldn't live with the poor relative battery life.
So Garmin has invented an incredible battery that lasts x time longer then the biggest tech company can muster? I just don’t understand, seems the non-fanboy Garmin watches are half tech-empty or have to have several times the battery size to do the numbers.
I’m running the Garmin Phoenix 5x with the sapphire glass. Indestructible! I seriously beat the heck out of it. It keeps truckin! And the battery is awesome. I charge it for 45 mins, once every 2 weeks.
Dedicated devices like the Garmin 530 just work good every time. Watches always get their buttons pushed, have tiny batteries, get ambient temperature/ elevation wrong because it’s on your wrist, and the HR monitor pales in comparison to chest strap.
Great video! I just switched from EPIX and am happy with the Ultra...however, I'm shocked the only biking activity is "outdoor cycling". How do I differentiate between my MTB and road cycling activities? I alternate both, and would like to look in my history and review stats by activitiy, not have them all lumped together.
When integrated with Strava, you can ensure that these different activities are separated. The Strava app on the AW is, in my opinion, a better workout app than the native Apple variant. It has the majority of the same features as Apple’s version, but it has much more flexibility and a degree of more functionality. As a disabled e-bike rider, I use it for all my e-bike rides, both on the road and the mountain bike trails.
Wait...so Garmin lets you control music on your iPhone in any situation like biking, driving, working out, walking, relaxing, flying? And make and take calls? And let's you text? And lets you audio record? And lets you interface to AirPods? And your calendar? And gives you alerts to remind you of life priority issues of your choosing? Wow...it's strange then why Apple is one of the biggest companies in the entire world....all the dummies have been buying Apple while the smart people bought Garmin....no wonder they have billions in cash and Garmin doesn't. And brilliant analyst skills....you mean....like Apple waited for there to be an established highly populated user base in a field that they could swoop into at any moment and gradually dominate? That's called very smart business sense...letting someone else build the platform....take the risks....do the marketing until mind share on products of that arena are widely accomplished...and THEN come in with hey guys...got something you might like that's going to tie into the entire iPhone user base in ways that a Garmin never will be able to , and slowly pick off the customers that have already been made to appreciate Garmin features that now exist in the iPhone ecosystem ...for the iPhone user base that also has used Garmin...guess what product they'll more likely buy the NEXT time they need GPS outdoor functions that only bought Garmin because there was no competition? That's how smart analysts would examine the scenario....and is exactly how Apple thinks and executes....just another derivation of how the Japanese market works...let someone else do the inventing and suffer all the hiccups of that process....then simply make a better "thing" and sell it to those that obviously want something like but bought the inferior product first....it's called letting your competition create the market for you.
@@locophoto6881 Apple is a boring company in a predictable product cycle. ios is a watered down OS made for Grandma's and Facebook moms. The fact that you have to jailbreak the OS to get basic customization features is ridiculous. Apple will never have the clientele or the people to appeal to cyclists unless it's a brainwashed apple fan such as yourself. Not to mention Apple likely never will take into account certain features that are vital cyclists like strava live segments. Enjoy!
@@mioutdoors426 Jealous of their success much? Work at your own life, and it will improve...the classic sign of a loser, is the one that is simply critical and negative and insulting. iOS boring and watered down for grandmas? I'm not a fan of Apple's internal culture, I've seen it at the highest levels, with Steve Jobs personally knowing my name before he died. But to say iOS is watered down is really juvenile since iPhone is the most popular phone of choice amongst countless corporate employees and governments. Not exactly grandma, hence how I tell you're simply bitter and jealous and not a mature and reasonable analyst of data. New flash that may help....Apple is never focused on pleasing one group of people for their approval...they're in the business of making as much money as possible to forward their political agenda while claiming their goal is to "change the world", putting up with conservatives for the sake of capturing their money. Feel free to explain the intellectual logic of your frustration though...why should it be important to Apple to cater to cyclist when they can make much more money focusing on larger demographics that have much more disposable income? Seriously...explain your thinking please..and that process might help you think different. ;) But the fundamental structure of society is always the same....work is what leads to success one way or another...not criticism and childish whining.
@@locophoto6881 Just bought a new Ultra 2 to replace Garmin. The only time your argument has not worked is on Tesla. They are still waiting for the Apple Car
Just recently got into the garmin Fenix 7 and I don’t think I’ll go back to the Apple Watch. Looks like an actual watch and does so much for all of my hobbies. Just super impressed with it over all
I believe something like an Epix would be a much better choice for almost everything you mentioned and it's basically in the same price category. Probably great if you want all the smartwatch features, but for me, when I had a smartwatch, I didn't even use half of the features, and a Garmin was a much better fit.
Same here. I even bought Epix gen2. I've used it for two weeks but ultimately I decided it is not for me, sold it to my friend and got myself Fenix 7X Never regret it, never have I looked back. 7X is hands down the best sport tracking device I've ever seen. I have friends who have Apple watch, friends who have Suunto, Polar, Samsung, Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi watches. All of them pale in comparison.
The problem I see for road biking, no Ant+ support and no integration with garmin. The second point can be worked around with multiple apps running in the background and have a power meter and HRM with BT instead of Ant+. If someone could suggest an app that can use the HRM, Power meter, (Garmin Varia support for radar) with lap counter, router planning, I’d reconsider Apple. However, at this price point, I could just get a Garmin smart watch which has all the things the new Apple Watch with even better battery life, for about the same price. OR just settle for a cycling computer. It is a hard decision to go with this watch, other than being in the Apple eco-system.
I think it looks and is great, but at 15 years old, a 1.1k CAD watch is simply too expensive, so I’ll stick to my Apple Watch SE for now ** I think my drivers license, which costs a little less than the Watch, is a better option for now
I have a question for Apple Watch users... Which app do you use to track your rides? I've been using the one under 'workouts'. I don't love it and I'm considering other options. If you use more than one, which is your favorite and why? Thank you.
I'm usually ok with a bit of the click baity-ness needed for YT these days, but a watch can't change biking man.. it changes watches, and as other have pointed out, this one is pricey for less biking features than most garmins. I actually think the Sat call ability of the 14 is potentially a bigger "win" although hopefully one never needs it. I have a series 7 and agree, it sucks for biking, I never wear it when park riding, and have tried protective cases for trail, but once sweat gets in them, the touch functionality hardly works. Maybe a "Ultra, SE" version could change my mind, keep it under 500, and better battery life please.
I don’t track anything, I just ride how I’m feeling. If I want to track something, that’s what the indoor trainer is for. Outside, I just want to ride.
It doesn't look rugged at all. It looks more like a fashion watch. I would be afraid on the first bash against a branch. My Garmin had been hit so many times and still looks great.
I just don’t think Garmin is for people who are fully integrated into the Apple ecosystem. Everything just works together so well. I love the activity tracker that Apple has come up with. Easy to compete with friends. I’m ok giving up a little battery life so that I can can make phone calls and get texts all while tracking rides. I ended up getting the Ultra.
With durability you have no point here because there is no way to tell yet if it will hold up better in the real world or not. That being said, my Gear S3 Frontier Watch has the screen slightly lower than the surrounding navigation ring, this helps to protect the screen from scratches. And so far I have yet to hit any button by accident, with or without gloves. And while mine doesn´t have a hard fall detection, other watches have for a while now and even mine can, and is, set up to send an emergency call and notifications to emergency contacts if I press the home button quickly 3 times. In Addition the Garmin on my bike does have a Hard Fall sensor. The Wayfinder thing looks and sounds more or less like how Komoot presents your ongoing activity on the Watch App. Overall really just a gimmick to me, never really used that on my watch because a) the Garmin has a proper map build in that show me where I have been and since I have my phone with me anyway, that thing has way better map features anyway. If I get lost in a new area, I simply plan a route in Komoot to a new destination starting from my current position and send the route to my Garmin. Overall, to me it sounds more like Apple is playing catch up with what others offer for a while now and building 1st party alternatives to what 3rd party apps can do anyway on watches. Even the dual GPS thing is only noteworthy because not too many others have that implemented yet, but it´s pretty much a given that this newer tech will be coming in pretty much anything in the future.
I just sold my Series 5 for a Garmin Fenix. This new Apple Watch intrigues me, but I have had it for over a week, use it every day, and haven’t had to charge it yet 😝
I got my Ultra yesterday and immediately went on a MTB ride. Almost none of the ultra features improve the biking experience over a series 8 besides dual gps and maybe the emergency siren. You will still need to use a bike computer if you want to use power and have active speed displayed in a useful way. For me, the Apple Watch is more important for non-cycling stats that are relevant to my training. Workout data like yoga and strength training, and now recovery with sleep monitoring. The ultra is really appealing for two reasons over a series 8. It looks great and it gets roughly 3 days battery life. If as a cyclist neither of those things are relevant stick with a series 8.
$800?! LoL! I don't even want to pay $80 for a watch that tracks my every move to create an on-line profile about me without my permission and sells my info.
So I guess you don't own a cell-phone either. Or google/bing/apple/waze maps... or google/apple/microsoft services. And only use the net through a VPN. Or social media.... like FB, YT, Insta, etc ... Because all of these do just the same ...
@@denesk2794 I have a de-googled phone. It tracks my info, but since I have never had to sign into any kind of an account on the phone, there is no profile to assign my info to. They don't know who owns or uses my phone.
Nice try by Apple, But still only a 36 hour battery life. No ANT+ sensor capabilities. Falls extremely short Of a Garmin Fenix or Epix models. Maybe next Gen they will be closer to Garmin
Don't worry, they will sell you an Apple battery pack to charge it on the go :) I think it is 60 hours BTW... 2.5 days ... still a far cry from my Fenix 6's 25 days :O ... OK, let's call it 2 weeks with 7 days a week of exercise/riding with all sensors on.
I’m not sure how you think the raised metal edging is going to prevent you from scratching the screen. If you’ve had to replace multiple watches for scratched screens in the past, maybe you’d learn to use a screen protector like any reasonable person…
I wouldn't want to wear a watch that bulky for every day use. I think the best way to go about it is have a normal Apple Watch for work / every day use and a Garmin Fenix for MTB and other outdoor activities. The Garmin has insane battery life, maps and great durability (especially with the Sapphire screen). Plus you can buy both for less than what the ultra costs.
Apple guy here. My Ultra has smacked trees several times and never a dent or a scratch. It's the first Apple watch that I've been able to read without glasses. Great on night rides. Integrates into the architecture perfectly. Wish it had a better integration with Trail Forks so it could give you turn by turn haptics. Also "Outdoor Cycle" doesn't cut it. Needs to be "MTB Ride" showing all the stats. I love the Garmin Epix but was affraid it might not integrate as well at the Apple product.
Good video! Love Apple products but I’d still take the Garmin Fenix hands down. Currently have a Fenix 7, it’s amazing and rugged for all the outdoor activities I do.
What you just described in this video van be easily done by many Polar, Garmin, Coros and Suunto for much less money. Just as an example, the Polar Grit X Pro Titan is around $400, has the same Titanium body + Sapphire display and rugged build, has the same back track feature, can lock the display so you don't click the buttons by accident as well, has real long battery life during a GPS activity (the 60 hours of the AW is not available yet and the total they can last without it it's not even a third of that) and to be honest, any sport watch is accurate enough even in the middle of the mountains. The metrics are way better and Fuel wise from polar is a huge plus during long rides, and it's actually *half the price* of the Apple Watch Ultra, having only cash detection and the siren missing which again is offered by Garmin for actually lower prices once again, say about $200 less with the same advantages from Polar.
You forgetting that the Ultra can make calls and connect to internet without being tethered. Can any of those devices do that? In fact, the most desirable Garmin watches cost more than the Ultra.
@@GhostFishSlayer no, they can't, but do you really go perform the target sports for this device without a phone? At least in my case, I don't see myself doing so, specially considering the battery on a GPS activity, best case scenario, is around 16 hours when it is brand new. Now assuming there's a market of people having an iPhone, doing outdoors activities comfortable with going outdoors without a phone and relying on a device with less of a day on a charge as their only connection with the world sounds very niche to me
Apple user here, currently own a series 6 watch. One thing I can say is if you're using the GPS features of your watch, don't expect the battery life to be anything near that 60hrs shown in this video. It won't even be close. I expect it will be better than the ~4 hrs you get on a Series 6, but definitely nothing remotely close to 60. If you're expecting to use the GPS on the watch frequently or for extended periods, be ready to charge it at least a couple times over the course of a day, and know that if you're camping and riding trails, that 60 hrs definitely won't work out into 2+ days of use on a single charge if you're using the GPS features.
I have been wearing a series 6 for the past two seasons primarily as a safety device. I have it for emergency calls and crash detection, reliably monitoring my heart rate and location tracking. However, I really wish it was Trailforks compatible and had more features specific to MTB. For my size, I found the watch too small; especially with gloves on so I have ordered an Ultra to try. I am hoping that their more outdoor-focused direction that will help spawn some MTB-specific apps that will really take advantage of the new features.
Ah good old APPLE , once again trying to play catch up. Taking someone else's perfected product and passing it off as there own. While charging stupid prices, 800 US when I can have a Garmin or Suuunto for way less. I will give you one thing the fall and crash detection is cool but charging you 800 US for it is outright robbery. Plus a data plan for it to work unless you have your phone paired to it.
Apple Watch does not support ANT+. Therefore, there is no known e-bike that you could connect Apple Watch to. (You can connect any ANT+ smartwatch to Specialized and Giant e-bikes).
Like most riders I use the outdoor cycling on the Apple Watch when I ride and my phone for everything else. IMHO these are all hyped up marketing features that everyday average riders probably will never use and at a ridiculously high price. Why can’t apple just add a mountain biking workout option and play nice with trail forks.
I like mtb enthusiasm. I dislike Apple enthusiasm. I never liked the experience of using Apple devices. I feel like I am renting them instead of owning them. I feel as a guest on a device that I paid with my own money. Where is my freedom to change everything? How can I manipulate my storage, my files, my own digital world when someone decided for me how can I do that and what I can and what I can't.
Garmin Epix 2 - up to 16 days of battery life, best fitness watch out there. Garmin 530 cycling computer - does everything you need for every type of cycling.
Why anyone would choose an Apple watch Ultra over a Garmin EPIX is beyond me. Unless you can't afford it (yes the apple watch ultra is cheap in this space)
I need too wear wrist braces on both wrists, so I don't wear a watch any more when riding. I use Trailforks on my phone. But I've not tried gps cycling computers yet.
I am glad that we get more useful features for bikers on mainstream electronics. I think that this is great! But for now I will stick with my Garmin 6x Pro
Four things that changed biking forever? three are watch design changes and the fourth is GPS improvement. NONE will change biking, not even for a minute.
Unless you're eskimo joe or scuba steve, this watch has zero differences in functionality from a Series 8. That said, I use APPLE for everything (laptops, ipads, iphones, appletv etc) and have for 15 years. But never considered an apple watch because they're inferior to any Garmin Fenix made. Native topomaps, GPX upload, courses, dual band satellite options (GPS, GLONASS, Gallileo and MULTI) as well as all the O2, Heart Rate...This watch, in some ways, is about 10 years behind in terms of functionality that a bike rider is going to want on a watch i mean way points? That's not even evolutionary. That's been table stakes for YEARS. And the battery life. Its Cute to see the Apple Watch people bust a nut on 2.5 days. I charge my Fenix once every 7 - 9 days. Their devices (like, all of them) dont even support ANT+ for one thing.
Biggest thing that peaks my interest is being able to leave the phone at home and still use the strava beacon feature and call for help if the worst happens
I’m probably not going to buy one, but it looks likes a great watch. That said, it is pretty tiring to see the “it’s revolutionary because it has an apple logo” cycle go around again. It shows promise, absolutely. But as it stands today, as a watch for outdoor activity, it’s just plain worse than what’s already on the market from the established players in the space. Full stop. Now as a fantastic every day watch that you can also take biking, sure. Honestly, it seems like the clear choice. But if it’s biking/hiking/swimming/whatever *first* and everyday second, I can’t see why you would pick an Apple Watch given the other options at or even well below that price point.
Hi do you know if this watch can be linked with Garmin Edge 1040 like if you can broadcast your pulse from watch to your Garmin unit? I’m a huge Apple fan and I like the idea that you actually got your phone with you in the watch and Apple Pay etc but man if this watch works with my Garmin computer then it’s a no brainer for me to buy it. Thanks
You forgot to say that Apple Watch 6 and SE older version have it to with a update I don’t know when this update released with this feature but they are more affordable Apple Watches or for the people who have the Apple Watch 6 or SE and don’t want to spent $700 or probably more with taxes insurance or that ext. will cost more so to save your self some money it’s a good thing to have I have the Apple Watch 6 and it’s very helpful because I do mountain biking too and is nice to have good luck out there be safe🤘🏼
LMFAO!!!!! I WAS DONE AS SOON AS YOU SAID $800!!! Galaxy Fit2 $60. Samsung Active free Does everything a Garmin or Apple watch can do accept call for help
This is the same guy who sold his high end MTB because he had an epiphany about being a slave to consumerism and how it wasn't just clickbait then spends $800 on a Smartwatch and claims it's going to "change biking forever". LOL
Safety is the selling point for this Ultra? Fall detection and auto dial for help is already on previous generation apple watches. Scratching up the watch and recessed buttons? How do you know you won't scratch up the Ultra like you scratched up the previous models? Your points that this is good for mountain biking is just not convincing.
I have been using a Fenix 3 HR for years with more features (and the sapphire lens is amazing). I have also been using a Garmin 530 with MTB Dynamics and Trailforks integration. Can't be beat!
Dear Apple Ultra users, I just bought this Watch and have no experience for so far, how can I use ( App or activity) to measure my results on a close motorcross track, thanks for help in advance greetings Jack
Normally I like your content but this has to be the most Apple Fan Boy video ever. Garmin owns the market on sports watches. I’m also an Apple Fan but I rock a Garmin Fenix watch. Why? It’s the best. Period.
Super cool but won’t buy it. I don’t push the button by accident I just flip the watch the other way so crown faces up my arm. I don’t think that raised lip will help unless it goes passed the screen, like most phone cases. I like the Iphone 14 pro for the camera and satellite SOS. I’m almost always alone in the woods.
Durability until apple decides to change the firmware with the next crappy watch release, and 800.00 bucks, pass I have an 6 year old Suunto Ambit 3 with better battery life than any apple crapgets.
Sunnto have made watches with accurate gps for years they also have good battery life etc, but this apple ultra watch looks like it now becomes an option because it means I can leave my iPhone at home. And still have music and comms …. Let’s see what happens in real life
I want one so bad man. I’ve just started up back mountain biking this pass year and just got one from Amazon now but doing the job for now I think lol keep riding 👍👍👍
Worth it. I am not an intense adventure or hyper fitness guy. That said, I want a more rugged and capable watch that fits my chosen ecosystem. I just wish Apple would incorporate solar and maps.
The tech is cool, Just sorta copy paste. That and 800bucks for a watch is cray, You can get a galaxy 5 watch for like 200 dollars, or really any other smart watch cheaper.
How did you get shops to send you ebikes to review I am trying to start up my own youtube Channel about reviewing all types of electric bikes honestly so customers can have a honest review to make there dicison on what ebike would be best to fit them., I just need to get a bike to get up and going what do u recommend?
Apple Watch you say yes but you don’t have cellular guys please use your brain battery life yes takes a hit! Go on a hike we’ll backpack solar! Simple !
Got a garmin edge 530 plus, give me all you mentioned and hooks to my bars so I can look at my path without taking my hands off the handlebar. Much safer, easier, and cheaper.
I switched from a garmin to an Apple Watch because it’s a better smart watch for me, replying to texts and what not, but I’ll use a garmin bike computer to track my rides as I’m fairly sure it’s more accurate.
I’m a big apple fan.
But my old Garmin Fenix 5 is still better than this watch in nearly every way
I was going to say my old Fenix 3 still outperforms this...
Yep... Fenix 6 and 830 owner....
I am not sure how sensors, integration, compatibility is not even mentioned in this video as if they didn't matter at all....
Speed sensor, cadence sensor, even e-bike compatibility on the 830, not mentioning that they work out of the box with Strava, Trail Forks and support industry standard track export. Linux, Windows, OSX, Android support ... etc etc etc...
A real sports watch vs an office toy ...
I have a Fenix 3 and think it's better than this.
I’ve got a Fenix 5X, and the only complaint I have is the accuracy of the heart rate sensor. I’m told the Apple Watch sensor is extremely accurate, which is nice, but Apple doesn’t let Garmin devices use that data. If I could ditch my heart rate strap, I’d gladly do so, but I don’t see a way to do that right now.
So your garmin can make a phone call right? 😂 I have garmin and also gonna buy this watch
Can't imagine ever needing one, or any other smart watch. Not really a big fan of watches in general tho. Having something on the wrist feels weird. Usually just track my rides on the phone.
Ok
You kinda just forget it’s there after a while
@@colebailey that is true!
Garmin Fenix (6 pro x) battery life: 25 days
Apple watch : 2.5 days
Garmin also works with Windows, Mac, Linux, Android and you are not chained to the Apple store ...
It talks to my sensors (speed cadence), transmits my heart rate to my handlebar garmin when I use one.
Also has crash detection and dual GPS.
BTW: crash detection is useless if you ride rough rocky stuff and/or jumps and do abrupt stops. I triggered it on pretty much every ride. If you wan that, you should get an in-helmet one probably.
Now you can pick up a Fenix 6 for around $500.
Has integration with pretty much EVERYTHING, from Trail Forks to Strava to .gpx export.
IMHO there is no good "do it all" device. If you are serious, you are not going to dive with an Apple Watch. Nor a Garmin. You will get a dive specific Suunto or Scubapro or similar dive computer.
I don't see people who ride 4-5+ times a week changing their sport watches to this gimmick....
Come on... now we are "night vision compatible" because they added a red/black mode :O
Just my 2c ...
PS ... I don't mean to offend anyone and I am not an Apple hater.....
When they start producing computers you can upgrade/repair I might even get one again.
I was actually tempted to get an iPhone just for the LIDAR on it, but then I reminded myself of the Apple Store ecosystem I am really not missing :)
All those dumb apple haters out there …so cringe ..why you so obsessed with it if you hate it ..cringe boy
Not much a fanboy but i just don’t see anybody making a similar size watch can have 10 times battery, it can not be done with cars for example, it must mean 10 times less usage for battery thus something does not need or is absent as a precise feature.
For most people this will be all they ever need.
But Garmin 530 with Trailforks integration and ability to preload defined routes with turn by turn directions is way more practical if your doing serious cycling. Not to mention on bike and chest HR sensors that are more accurate.
For hardcore enthusiasts, Dedicated Garmin is more feature rich.
can still use a BT-enabled chest strap with an apple watch which is what I do.
For half the money I think a Garmin Instinct 2 would function better for mountain biking and other activities. Also more durable, I just smashed mine against a tree yesterday and it only left a smudge on the bezel that easily rubbed off with a finger.
You can get it even cheaper because the Apple Watch 6 and newer versions have it too will save you some money unles you want to get the ultra it’s all up to you I got the 6 and a update just released this feature 🤘🏼
Some great points and would definitely be an upgrade over just using your phone, but to recommend this for ONLY cycling is crazy. For about half the price, you can get a Garmin 530 that has all the features you mentioned, plus trail forks navigation (not to mention all the more road cycling centric features). I can only see this being a good purchase if you really want a smartwatch for day to day use, or you are maybe a runner or something as well.
You can get an 830 for $399. Or a Fenix 6X for $449.
I agree that either of those are a much better fit if you ride a lot. I actually own both an 830 and a Fenix 6 Pro X.
Excellent units with 10x the battery life for the Fenix 6 ( 25 hours estimated :unless you enable all sensors and Wifi 24/7, which I don't ... of course less if you ride 1-2 hours a day, but still comfortably pushing 2 weeks plus on a charge. )
Do yo get cell service with those? I head out with my Apple Watch for long ride, beach trips, etc, and don’t have to carry a cellphone. It syncs up with Strava and I compared it to my garmin head units and its often as accurate or more accurate and I don’t need a chest HR strap. The only cool thing would if it could sync up to power meter.
The Apple Watch is also still appropriate for work and doesn’t look like a Casio GSHock….
Lastly, the resale value is great on Apple products, Ive gotten pretty good cash or trade up credits on older Apple watches.
@@Thomas-fy9yc You are right with the design, Fenix with shirt looks odd. However watch will never be as accurate as chest strap. And if you need navigation either on road or mtb, it is very dangerous to check the wrist during the trail or fast descent. That is the reason, why, if you will start riding a lot, you will use your bike computer in front of you, where you can see all data you need. I tried to ride known mtb trails with watch on, but in hot weather watch tend to slide down on wrist because of sweat. And same cross country skiing, where watch under mittens causing pain. I own AW, however for serious sports I always use Fenix.
Thank you Logan. Apple Watch has never and is still not the best option for cycling! This is clear.
Have a Garmin 530 and the Tactix Delta. Use both mountain biking all the time (not at same time). They are beasts and have way better features than this Apple watch with much better battery life.
This is the problem with Apple fanboys, all of these features arent new if you have basically any other smartwatch.
Why are you willing to spend 2x price for an inferior product just because it's got an apple logo.
Because now it has all the cutting edge features Garmin and Android had 4 years ago! You have to pay for innovation. /S
I did not realize having a face that was protected was a feature. I though all watches had that.
Apple fanboys are fanboys because they usually nail the user interface and usability. Garmin is hot garbage in this regard. But I couldn't live with the poor relative battery life.
So Garmin has invented an incredible battery that lasts x time longer then the biggest tech company can muster? I just don’t understand, seems the non-fanboy Garmin watches are half tech-empty or have to have several times the battery size to do the numbers.
I’m running the Garmin Phoenix 5x with the sapphire glass.
Indestructible!
I seriously beat the heck out of it.
It keeps truckin!
And the battery is awesome.
I charge it for 45 mins, once every 2 weeks.
Dedicated devices like the Garmin 530 just work good every time. Watches always get their buttons pushed, have tiny batteries, get ambient temperature/ elevation wrong because it’s on your wrist, and the HR monitor pales in comparison to chest strap.
Great video! I just switched from EPIX and am happy with the Ultra...however, I'm shocked the only biking activity is "outdoor cycling". How do I differentiate between my MTB and road cycling activities? I alternate both, and would like to look in my history and review stats by activitiy, not have them all lumped together.
When integrated with Strava, you can ensure that these different activities are separated. The Strava app on the AW is, in my opinion, a better workout app than the native Apple variant. It has the majority of the same features as Apple’s version, but it has much more flexibility and a degree of more functionality. As a disabled e-bike rider, I use it for all my e-bike rides, both on the road and the mountain bike trails.
Wait, so Apple has finally caught up with Garmin from 5 years ago! And only cost twice the amount! What a great deal
Wait...so Garmin lets you control music on your iPhone in any situation like biking, driving, working out, walking, relaxing, flying? And make and take calls? And let's you text? And lets you audio record? And lets you interface to AirPods? And your calendar? And gives you alerts to remind you of life priority issues of your choosing? Wow...it's strange then why Apple is one of the biggest companies in the entire world....all the dummies have been buying Apple while the smart people bought Garmin....no wonder they have billions in cash and Garmin doesn't.
And brilliant analyst skills....you mean....like Apple waited for there to be an established highly populated user base in a field that they could swoop into at any moment and gradually dominate? That's called very smart business sense...letting someone else build the platform....take the risks....do the marketing until mind share on products of that arena are widely accomplished...and THEN come in with hey guys...got something you might like that's going to tie into the entire iPhone user base in ways that a Garmin never will be able to , and slowly pick off the customers that have already been made to appreciate Garmin features that now exist in the iPhone ecosystem ...for the iPhone user base that also has used Garmin...guess what product they'll more likely buy the NEXT time they need GPS outdoor functions that only bought Garmin because there was no competition? That's how smart analysts would examine the scenario....and is exactly how Apple thinks and executes....just another derivation of how the Japanese market works...let someone else do the inventing and suffer all the hiccups of that process....then simply make a better "thing" and sell it to those that obviously want something like but bought the inferior product first....it's called letting your competition create the market for you.
@@locophoto6881 Apple is a boring company in a predictable product cycle. ios is a watered down OS made for Grandma's and Facebook moms. The fact that you have to jailbreak the OS to get basic customization features is ridiculous. Apple will never have the clientele or the people to appeal to cyclists unless it's a brainwashed apple fan such as yourself. Not to mention Apple likely never will take into account certain features that are vital cyclists like strava live segments. Enjoy!
@@mioutdoors426 Jealous of their success much? Work at your own life, and it will improve...the classic sign of a loser, is the one that is simply critical and negative and insulting.
iOS boring and watered down for grandmas? I'm not a fan of Apple's internal culture, I've seen it at the highest levels, with Steve Jobs personally knowing my name before he died. But to say iOS is watered down is really juvenile since iPhone is the most popular phone of choice amongst countless corporate employees and governments. Not exactly grandma, hence how I tell you're simply bitter and jealous and not a mature and reasonable analyst of data.
New flash that may help....Apple is never focused on pleasing one group of people for their approval...they're in the business of making as much money as possible to forward their political agenda while claiming their goal is to "change the world", putting up with conservatives for the sake of capturing their money.
Feel free to explain the intellectual logic of your frustration though...why should it be important to Apple to cater to cyclist when they can make much more money focusing on larger demographics that have much more disposable income? Seriously...explain your thinking please..and that process might help you think different. ;)
But the fundamental structure of society is always the same....work is what leads to success one way or another...not criticism and childish whining.
@@locophoto6881 mind if I use your response for my essay?
@@locophoto6881
Just bought a new Ultra 2 to replace Garmin.
The only time your argument has not worked is on Tesla. They are still waiting for the Apple Car
Just recently got into the garmin Fenix 7 and I don’t think I’ll go back to the Apple Watch. Looks like an actual watch and does so much for all of my hobbies. Just super impressed with it over all
exactly
Agreed not to mention the durability and battery life is much better than Apple.
I believe something like an Epix would be a much better choice for almost everything you mentioned and it's basically in the same price category. Probably great if you want all the smartwatch features, but for me, when I had a smartwatch, I didn't even use half of the features, and a Garmin was a much better fit.
Same here. I even bought Epix gen2. I've used it for two weeks but ultimately I decided it is not for me, sold it to my friend and got myself Fenix 7X
Never regret it, never have I looked back. 7X is hands down the best sport tracking device I've ever seen. I have friends who have Apple watch, friends who have Suunto, Polar, Samsung, Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi watches. All of them pale in comparison.
Except Garmin disables incident detection for MTB. 😞
The problem I see for road biking, no Ant+ support and no integration with garmin. The second point can be worked around with multiple apps running in the background and have a power meter and HRM with BT instead of Ant+. If someone could suggest an app that can use the HRM, Power meter, (Garmin Varia support for radar) with lap counter, router planning, I’d reconsider Apple. However, at this price point, I could just get a Garmin smart watch which has all the things the new Apple Watch with even better battery life, for about the same price. OR just settle for a cycling computer. It is a hard decision to go with this watch, other than being in the Apple eco-system.
Garmins have better GPS and are more rugged. Here in the UK they’re half the price as well
and has up to 5x better battery life!
I think it looks and is great, but at 15 years old, a 1.1k CAD watch is simply too expensive, so I’ll stick to my Apple Watch SE for now
** I think my drivers license, which costs a little less than the Watch, is a better option for now
I have a question for Apple Watch users... Which app do you use to track your rides? I've been using the one under 'workouts'. I don't love it and I'm considering other options. If you use more than one, which is your favorite and why? Thank you.
Use outdoor cycle, loads better for tracking your routes
@@Lifestartsatforty Thanks. I'll check it out.
Like you said, Garmin is already doing it, and so are other none expensive watches....
I'm usually ok with a bit of the click baity-ness needed for YT these days, but a watch can't change biking man.. it changes watches, and as other have pointed out, this one is pricey for less biking features than most garmins. I actually think the Sat call ability of the 14 is potentially a bigger "win" although hopefully one never needs it. I have a series 7 and agree, it sucks for biking, I never wear it when park riding, and have tried protective cases for trail, but once sweat gets in them, the touch functionality hardly works. Maybe a "Ultra, SE" version could change my mind, keep it under 500, and better battery life please.
Battery life in days not hrs. Also has the ability to charge itself. Apple might take it sooner or later, but garmin just has it for now.
Cool but 800 is ridiculous.
I don’t track anything, I just ride how I’m feeling. If I want to track something, that’s what the indoor trainer is for. Outside, I just want to ride.
Agree all the way. Just ride and have fun people no tech required. 👍🏻
Dude, get a Garmin for sports, leave the apple watches for bloggers and Caffè joggers 👍
It doesn't look rugged at all. It looks more like a fashion watch. I would be afraid on the first bash against a branch. My Garmin had been hit so many times and still looks great.
They haven't changed biking at all. Just released new gadget with horrible battery life.
This is ridiculous nobody should buy this. Tell me how to make money off this one then maybe we can talk.
Don't care for anything Apple.
I just don’t think Garmin is for people who are fully integrated into the Apple ecosystem. Everything just works together so well. I love the activity tracker that Apple has come up with. Easy to compete with friends. I’m ok giving up a little battery life so that I can can make phone calls and get texts all while tracking rides. I ended up getting the Ultra.
Dangit, I just got a Series 7 Apple Watch. Although my heart did stop for a second when you said the price.
With durability you have no point here because there is no way to tell yet if it will hold up better in the real world or not. That being said, my Gear S3 Frontier Watch has the screen slightly lower than the surrounding navigation ring, this helps to protect the screen from scratches. And so far I have yet to hit any button by accident, with or without gloves.
And while mine doesn´t have a hard fall detection, other watches have for a while now and even mine can, and is, set up to send an emergency call and notifications to emergency contacts if I press the home button quickly 3 times. In Addition the Garmin on my bike does have a Hard Fall sensor.
The Wayfinder thing looks and sounds more or less like how Komoot presents your ongoing activity on the Watch App. Overall really just a gimmick to me, never really used that on my watch because a) the Garmin has a proper map build in that show me where I have been and since I have my phone with me anyway, that thing has way better map features anyway. If I get lost in a new area, I simply plan a route in Komoot to a new destination starting from my current position and send the route to my Garmin.
Overall, to me it sounds more like Apple is playing catch up with what others offer for a while now and building 1st party alternatives to what 3rd party apps can do anyway on watches. Even the dual GPS thing is only noteworthy because not too many others have that implemented yet, but it´s pretty much a given that this newer tech will be coming in pretty much anything in the future.
I am an apple fan, but I have many watches already that are not apple...I think a garmin is my choice for bike riding.
I just sold my Series 5 for a Garmin Fenix. This new Apple Watch intrigues me, but I have had it for over a week, use it every day, and haven’t had to charge it yet 😝
I got my Ultra yesterday and immediately went on a MTB ride. Almost none of the ultra features improve the biking experience over a series 8 besides dual gps and maybe the emergency siren. You will still need to use a bike computer if you want to use power and have active speed displayed in a useful way.
For me, the Apple Watch is more important for non-cycling stats that are relevant to my training. Workout data like yoga and strength training, and now recovery with sleep monitoring.
The ultra is really appealing for two reasons over a series 8. It looks great and it gets roughly 3 days battery life. If as a cyclist neither of those things are relevant stick with a series 8.
If you already have one thats cool, but otherwise that money could greatly go into better parts for your bike
$800?! LoL! I don't even want to pay $80 for a watch that tracks my every move to create an on-line profile about me without my permission and sells my info.
So I guess you don't own a cell-phone either. Or google/bing/apple/waze maps... or google/apple/microsoft services.
And only use the net through a VPN.
Or social media.... like FB, YT, Insta, etc ...
Because all of these do just the same ...
@@denesk2794 Yes, but I forgot the biggest problem with the watch, besides the ridiculous cost, is that it needs to be charged every couple of day.
@@denesk2794 I have a de-googled phone. It tracks my info, but since I have never had to sign into any kind of an account on the phone, there is no profile to assign my info to. They don't know who owns or uses my phone.
Nice try by Apple, But still only a 36 hour battery life. No ANT+ sensor capabilities. Falls extremely short Of a Garmin Fenix or Epix models. Maybe next Gen they will be closer to Garmin
Don't worry, they will sell you an Apple battery pack to charge it on the go :)
I think it is 60 hours BTW... 2.5 days ... still a far cry from my Fenix 6's 25 days :O ... OK, let's call it 2 weeks with 7 days a week of exercise/riding with all sensors on.
@@denesk2794 36 hours in normal mode. 60 hours in “low power” mode.
I’m not sure how you think the raised metal edging is going to prevent you from scratching the screen. If you’ve had to replace multiple watches for scratched screens in the past, maybe you’d learn to use a screen protector like any reasonable person…
You should have put all your previous Apple watches on your handlebars.
Have already ordered one to replace my series 5 for all these reasons. GPS inaccuracy has been bugging me.
I wouldn't want to wear a watch that bulky for every day use. I think the best way to go about it is have a normal Apple Watch for work / every day use and a Garmin Fenix for MTB and other outdoor activities. The Garmin has insane battery life, maps and great durability (especially with the Sapphire screen). Plus you can buy both for less than what the ultra costs.
Nice balanced video. For me Apple products are over-priced and I'll stick to my Garmin Instinct which does everything I need it to.
Apple guy here. My Ultra has smacked trees several times and never a dent or a scratch. It's the first Apple watch that I've been able to read without glasses. Great on night rides. Integrates into the architecture perfectly. Wish it had a better integration with Trail Forks so it could give you turn by turn haptics. Also "Outdoor Cycle" doesn't cut it. Needs to be "MTB Ride" showing all the stats. I love the Garmin Epix but was affraid it might not integrate as well at the Apple product.
Good video! Love Apple products but I’d still take the Garmin Fenix hands down. Currently have a Fenix 7, it’s amazing and rugged for all the outdoor activities I do.
What you just described in this video van be easily done by many Polar, Garmin, Coros and Suunto for much less money. Just as an example, the Polar Grit X Pro Titan is around $400, has the same Titanium body + Sapphire display and rugged build, has the same back track feature, can lock the display so you don't click the buttons by accident as well, has real long battery life during a GPS activity (the 60 hours of the AW is not available yet and the total they can last without it it's not even a third of that) and to be honest, any sport watch is accurate enough even in the middle of the mountains. The metrics are way better and Fuel wise from polar is a huge plus during long rides, and it's actually *half the price* of the Apple Watch Ultra, having only cash detection and the siren missing which again is offered by Garmin for actually lower prices once again, say about $200 less with the same advantages from Polar.
You forgetting that the Ultra can make calls and connect to internet without being tethered. Can any of those devices do that? In fact, the most desirable Garmin watches cost more than the Ultra.
@@GhostFishSlayer no, they can't, but do you really go perform the target sports for this device without a phone? At least in my case, I don't see myself doing so, specially considering the battery on a GPS activity, best case scenario, is around 16 hours when it is brand new.
Now assuming there's a market of people having an iPhone, doing outdoors activities comfortable with going outdoors without a phone and relying on a device with less of a day on a charge as their only connection with the world sounds very niche to me
Yeah, miss me with the whole "watch as expensive as my bike" thing
Apple user here, currently own a series 6 watch. One thing I can say is if you're using the GPS features of your watch, don't expect the battery life to be anything near that 60hrs shown in this video. It won't even be close. I expect it will be better than the ~4 hrs you get on a Series 6, but definitely nothing remotely close to 60. If you're expecting to use the GPS on the watch frequently or for extended periods, be ready to charge it at least a couple times over the course of a day, and know that if you're camping and riding trails, that 60 hrs definitely won't work out into 2+ days of use on a single charge if you're using the GPS features.
I have been wearing a series 6 for the past two seasons primarily as a safety device. I have it for emergency calls and crash detection, reliably monitoring my heart rate and location tracking. However, I really wish it was Trailforks compatible and had more features specific to MTB. For my size, I found the watch too small; especially with gloves on so I have ordered an Ultra to try. I am hoping that their more outdoor-focused direction that will help spawn some MTB-specific apps that will really take advantage of the new features.
Ah good old APPLE , once again trying to play catch up. Taking someone else's perfected product and passing it off as there own. While charging stupid prices, 800 US when I can have a Garmin or Suuunto for way less.
I will give you one thing the fall and crash detection is cool but charging you 800 US for it is outright robbery. Plus a data plan for it to work unless you have your phone paired to it.
Apple Watch does not support ANT+. Therefore, there is no known e-bike that you could connect Apple Watch to. (You can connect any ANT+ smartwatch to Specialized and Giant e-bikes).
Like most riders I use the outdoor cycling on the Apple Watch when I ride and my phone for everything else. IMHO these are all hyped up marketing features that everyday average riders probably will never use and at a ridiculously high price. Why can’t apple just add a mountain biking workout option and play nice with trail forks.
I like mtb enthusiasm. I dislike Apple enthusiasm. I never liked the experience of using Apple devices. I feel like I am renting them instead of owning them. I feel as a guest on a device that I paid with my own money. Where is my freedom to change everything? How can I manipulate my storage, my files, my own digital world when someone decided for me how can I do that and what I can and what I can't.
Garmin Epix 2 - up to 16 days of battery life, best fitness watch out there. Garmin 530 cycling computer - does everything you need for every type of cycling.
Why anyone would choose an Apple watch Ultra over a Garmin EPIX is beyond me. Unless you can't afford it (yes the apple watch ultra is cheap in this space)
I need too wear wrist braces on both wrists, so I don't wear a watch any more when riding.
I use Trailforks on my phone.
But I've not tried gps cycling computers yet.
I am glad that we get more useful features for bikers on mainstream electronics. I think that this is great! But for now I will stick with my Garmin 6x Pro
Four things that changed biking forever? three are watch design changes and the fourth is GPS improvement. NONE will change biking, not even for a minute.
Unless you're eskimo joe or scuba steve, this watch has zero differences in functionality from a Series 8.
That said, I use APPLE for everything (laptops, ipads, iphones, appletv etc) and have for 15 years. But never considered an apple watch because they're inferior to any Garmin Fenix made. Native topomaps, GPX upload, courses, dual band satellite options (GPS, GLONASS, Gallileo and MULTI) as well as all the O2, Heart Rate...This watch, in some ways, is about 10 years behind in terms of functionality that a bike rider is going to want on a watch i mean way points? That's not even evolutionary. That's been table stakes for YEARS. And the battery life. Its Cute to see the Apple Watch people bust a nut on 2.5 days. I charge my Fenix once every 7 - 9 days. Their devices (like, all of them) dont even support ANT+ for one thing.
Biggest thing that peaks my interest is being able to leave the phone at home and still use the strava beacon feature and call for help if the worst happens
leave your phone? why? don't you want to be able to call sb.?
@@mtbboy1993 The Ultra has cellular connectivity built in, it doesn't need to be connected to a phone to call, text or send data.
@@RookYZRM1 But using a watch as a phone sucks. I don't have to try it to know it.
@@mtbboy1993 it won't suck in the off chance something goes wrong and you need to call for help.
@@RookYZRM1 in that case yes it wil lbe nice, But I wear wrist braces. whhich is unavoidable, i need them to be able to brake properly.
A cheaper way to fix the battery life is to just bring an Apple Watch power bank and charge during a break. They are tiny and light.
I’m probably not going to buy one, but it looks likes a great watch. That said, it is pretty tiring to see the “it’s revolutionary because it has an apple logo” cycle go around again. It shows promise, absolutely. But as it stands today, as a watch for outdoor activity, it’s just plain worse than what’s already on the market from the established players in the space. Full stop.
Now as a fantastic every day watch that you can also take biking, sure. Honestly, it seems like the clear choice. But if it’s biking/hiking/swimming/whatever *first* and everyday second, I can’t see why you would pick an Apple Watch given the other options at or even well below that price point.
Hi do you know if this watch can be linked with Garmin Edge 1040 like if you can broadcast your pulse from watch to your Garmin unit? I’m a huge Apple fan and I like the idea that you actually got your phone with you in the watch and Apple Pay etc but man if this watch works with my Garmin computer then it’s a no brainer for me to buy it. Thanks
You forgot to say that Apple Watch 6 and SE older version have it to with a update I don’t know when this update released with this feature but they are more affordable Apple Watches or for the people who have the Apple Watch 6 or SE and don’t want to spent $700 or probably more with taxes insurance or that ext. will cost more so to save your self some money it’s a good thing to have I have the Apple Watch 6 and it’s very helpful because I do mountain biking too and is nice to have good luck out there be safe🤘🏼
LMFAO!!!!! I WAS DONE AS SOON AS YOU SAID $800!!!
Galaxy Fit2 $60.
Samsung Active free
Does everything a Garmin or Apple watch can do accept call for help
This is the same guy who sold his high end MTB because he had an epiphany about being a slave to consumerism and how it wasn't just clickbait then spends $800 on a Smartwatch and claims it's going to "change biking forever". LOL
Safety is the selling point for this Ultra? Fall detection and auto dial for help is already on previous generation apple watches. Scratching up the watch and recessed buttons? How do you know you won't scratch up the Ultra like you scratched up the previous models? Your points that this is good for mountain biking is just not convincing.
I have been using a Fenix 3 HR for years with more features (and the sapphire lens is amazing).
I have also been using a Garmin 530 with MTB Dynamics and Trailforks integration. Can't be beat!
Dear Apple Ultra users, I just bought this Watch and have no experience for so far, how can I use ( App or activity) to measure my results on a close motorcross track,
thanks for help in advance greetings Jack
Normally I like your content but this has to be the most Apple Fan Boy video ever. Garmin owns the market on sports watches. I’m also an Apple Fan but I rock a Garmin Fenix watch. Why? It’s the best. Period.
Super cool but won’t buy it. I don’t push the button by accident I just flip the watch the other way so crown faces up my arm. I don’t think that raised lip will help unless it goes passed the screen, like most phone cases. I like the Iphone 14 pro for the camera and satellite SOS. I’m almost always alone in the woods.
Durability until apple decides to change the firmware with the next crappy watch release, and 800.00 bucks, pass I have an 6 year old Suunto Ambit 3 with better battery life than any apple crapgets.
😂 "Apple changed biking". WTF? A garmin watch already does all this (though propably better and with 3x battery life) and didn't change biking either.
Sunnto have made watches with accurate gps for years they also have good battery life etc, but this apple ultra watch looks like it now becomes an option because it means I can leave my iPhone at home. And still have music and comms …. Let’s see what happens in real life
I want one so bad man. I’ve just started up back mountain biking this pass year and just got one from Amazon now but doing the job for now I think lol keep riding 👍👍👍
Worth it. I am not an intense adventure or hyper fitness guy. That said, I want a more rugged and capable watch that fits my chosen ecosystem. I just wish Apple would incorporate solar and maps.
$800 is not bad when compared to Garmin. However, the battery life is still something to be disorder. Buuuuuuut, the ecosystem of apple is fantastic
The tech is cool, Just sorta copy paste. That and 800bucks for a watch is cray, You can get a galaxy 5 watch for like 200 dollars, or really any other smart watch cheaper.
How did you get shops to send you ebikes to review I am trying to start up my own youtube Channel about reviewing all types of electric bikes honestly so customers can have a honest review to make there dicison on what ebike would be best to fit them., I just need to get a bike to get up and going what do u recommend?
The screen on my series 3 got smashed and it wasn’t from mountain biking. The Ultra is the best Apple Watch I’ve had
never ever..had a apple watch, micro crack at the corner of the bezel. water ruined the watch, apple said, sorry it's now a $400 paper weight..
Apple Watch you say yes but you don’t have cellular guys please use your brain battery life yes takes a hit!
Go on a hike we’ll backpack solar! Simple !
I wouldn’t mind getting one, if everyone on the planet wasn’t wearing an Apple Watch. I’ll stick with my Fenix 7x.
Ordered mine day 2. Was supposed to get here 9/30-10/5. Now they’re saying 10/5-10/12…… we’ll see
Surfacing and old video - you still rocking this watch? I noticed mine slaps around a bit in the rough stuff!
I’m definitely going to get it 🤙
Got a garmin edge 530 plus, give me all you mentioned and hooks to my bars so I can look at my path without taking my hands off the handlebar. Much safer, easier, and cheaper.
Same here but still take the watch for safety. Don’t have to bring the phone. 530 for data , watch for calls if ever needed.
I don’t know what the video is about, but surely an appropriate reaction to the title is: “No it definitely didn’t!” 😜
have already bought the apple watch ultra - its awesome better than garmin - also bought the iphone 14 pro max and the new ipod pro 2s!!
Sooooo features already included with garmin watches, but now for almost twice the price?
No thanks.
Apple makes a great product, but Garmin still is the best out there in terms of durability and batter power. Apple will be there soon.
How many people go mountain biking without a phone? They have much better GPS tracking!
_Cycle tracker_ ha ha always makes me laugh, but I'm a 12 year old boy trapped in a 43 year old body 😆
This totally makes sense! Gen Z is almost as cringe as apple fan boys! I knew there must have been a correlation.
Never worn a watch while riding bikes... Good way to break your watch or screw up your wrist in a fall.
Cool updates, but I think most people will be very happy with the Fitbit Charge 5 or a Garmin 530 at a considerably lower price point.
You didn’t mention the flaws and the main one for a cyclist being the fact that you can’t connect to a power meter or cadence sensor
None of the things you suggest are game changers, Dc rainmakers actual review is worth a view.
Smart watches are normie red flags. I'll stick to my traditional time keepers. Sometimes less is more.
Apple watch isn't gonna be a game changer.
Garmin been doing this since the Garmin 5....
Nope. Any Garmin Edge cycling computer is much better than any watch.
I switched from a garmin to an Apple Watch because it’s a better smart watch for me, replying to texts and what not, but I’ll use a garmin bike computer to track my rides as I’m fairly sure it’s more accurate.