This is fire. I've been waiting for this for 5+ years. Literally almost bought a Garmin bike computer right before this announcement. Very much looking forward to this update and hopefully it's accurate date. And I'm sure it will be as Apple has probably been working on this for years. Now if we could only get trail forks on the Apple Watch. But being able to add a power meter is fire.
Great overview!! 👋👏👏👏Since I ride with a cycling computer, most of these new features for cycling don't affect me since I don't use my iPhone/Apple Watch to monitor cycling metrics. The one thing Apple could have have done for riders like me was to allow the Apple Watch to directly supply heart rate data to cycling computers like my Garmin 1030+. But, alas, as you said, Apple chose to deny this functionality to its users. I don't think this has anything to do with technical limitations. I think it has everything to do with the fact that Apple would rather put every employee's first born child up for adoption before doing anything that would improve the performance of a competitor, in this case, especially Garmin. The curious thing here is that by not offering native heart rate functionality, Apple has continued to make Garmin fitness watches a more than competitive option in the cycling enthusiast space. Of course, just my opinion. P.S. I was also disappointed to not see an Apple Health app for the Apple Watch. I would love to have access to these metrics on my Watch without having to use a third party subscription app like Athlytic. COME ON APPLE!!!
Definitely would’ve loved to see HR broadcasting in this update. I don’t think Apple is opposed to adding this and we might see it in a future watch or WatchOS update.
@@SmartBikeTrainers I hope you're right and we don't have to wait for Apple to manufacture their own cycling computer before we get this functionality. 🙄😳🤣
Thanks for covering this! I pre-ordered and adopted the first gen Apple watch, and currently have a gen 6 one, precisely because it had at least basic support for cycling workouts, when everyone else only supported running or swimming. This was pre-Strava I think, and only basic bike computers were available. The Apple watch has just gotten more capable over the years. I think I'll still rely on my Garmin as my main ride tracker and interface with my power meter and other sensors, with Strava to track. However, I like that the Apple watch pulls that data together with other activities to help me build a complete picture of how things are going.
I’ve been an iOS fanboy since the first iPhone, and other than the release of the App Store, I’ve never been more excited about an update. I was about to dive into the Garmin system too. I’m so glad they are doing this. Especially having the phone stats on your phone. All my bikes have the same mount for my phone so it’s perfect. I can’t wait.
I’m only waiting for them to do something with cross country skiing. Now it’s only measuring heart rate and calories. Why?? They could simply copy running and rename it cross country skiing.
question, since you mentioned speed sensor, why is there need for external speed sensor when apple watch already does it for you pretty accurately? Does that conserve apple watch battery?
It’s an additional option to record speed that can come in handy in places where GPS signal might not be as good or indoor riding using a smart trainer or a spinning bike.
hi, thanks for the video. where does it show the calories burned during and outdoor cycle? i used it for the first time today and the auto pause feature was invasive, and failed to capture more than 50% of my workout because of it..
I'm looking forward to your feedback once you've tested especially will it connect to a trainer(kicker) and read power and find ftp from the trainer in the same way that say TrainerRoad will calculate your FTP after a ramp test without an independent power meter. Or maybe this might come through the api and another app provider. Still interesting possibilities.
I’m looking forward to this as well - especially the integration of additional ftp updates in real-time. It will be interesting to see how and if the new features apply across the different turbo trainers and on platforms like Zwift. Thanks for this video update.
Will this be possible too where the heart rate monitor can display on your bike computer like a wahoo bolt? I want to buy a bolt instead of taking my phone with me - but I don't want to buy a heart rate monitor cause I already have a watch to monitor my heart rate, I just want to be able to see it on my bolt during the ride.
@@SmartBikeTrainers So this is an interesting thing - I talked with Wahoo and they say it's an Apple thing that it won't hook up to the bike computer, then I talk with Apple, they don't understand (at least the person I talked to at Apple) why it can't cause the watch is bluetooth enabled, and they blame the incompatibility on the 3rd party. Why can't these guys get their stuff together and serve our community properly.
Im about to try to get me a Cycling setup with Zwift. You have a video on everything needed for a good setup? Im trying to track calories as accurately as possible too. Not sure how many different devices i need for all the features i want 😩 its confusing
Here is a video I did on that. Hope that helps: Quality Zwift Setup on a Budget: My Top Picks For One Heck of A Zwift Setup ua-cam.com/video/n0gUgeH7JOs/v-deo.html
a quality which cyclists don’t often consider is ruggedness or durability. if you were doing a spartan event would you wear an apple watch? would an apple watch survive undamaged? probably not.
I’ve owned both Garmin Fenix’s and currently wear the Apple Watch Ultra. I can confirm that my experience has been the Ultra is incredibly durable! I have a very active lifestyle and employment and it’s taken plenty of hits and currently has no marks on it. My Fenix was great too but I managed to scratch the bezel on it.
Yeah, I have the ultra and have put it through the wringer for the last 8 months. It's built like a tank. I've bashed it on my bike rack, ridden 1000+ miles on downhill MTB trails, smashed it into desks and counters... nothing. Not even a scratch. Titanium man... You would have to intentionally smash a rock on it's crystal, square on to crack it. I wouldn't worry about it unless you are cage fighting with weapons.
Is watchOS 10 enough? not sure. I own an iPhone 8, not longer supported by next iOS 17 update: will I be able to update my Apple Watch Series 5 to WatchOS 10? if I need to get a new iPhone, then perhaps I will but for sure my next watch won't be an apple, I would get a Garmin Fenix 7 pro. Also, the only advantage of apple so far is the quality of the heart rate sensor, other than that Garmin has superior physiological parameters analysis, data display, topological maps, battery, watch construction... I don't know... Watch Ultra 2 matching Garmin Epix 2 pro battery would be interesting.
Great video, however without Apple including native heat rate re-broadcast via atleast bluetooth to a cycle computer such as Wahoo or Garmin the Apple watch and IOS continues to be a major fail to me and will stick with a Garmin !!!
As a gamer and pc builder 60 frames is more than enough, they should prioritize better graphic’s rather than more frames. I would even suggest that for a slow paced game like Zwift even a steady frame rate of 30 would work fine.
I was literally about to buy a wahoo or Garmin until they have announced this. I have an Apple Watch 8, but it’s lacking cadence/accuracy of a speed sensor (which as a result causes distance to be abit off). Now with this new update, all I need to buy is a set of sensors + power meter, use my phone mount with Apple Watch, you have a FULL set of cycling data. Amazing!
The watch does better than high end bike computers for example it shows the zone your in and automatically calculates ur fpt, bike computers need to step there game up
Amazing, i’m cyclist and i always use my phone on my cockpit, and with the years it becomes difficult to read my garmin datas. I will use the watch replication on iphone in the coming next future now that there is the third party connection. And i could forgot my heartbeat belt : just the best new of the day : Thank you !
Friends,I see we have gone favorite apps or last opened on the right side button. Instead there is a control center. A bit of a shame, or is that still changeable ?Plus, I can't change the face of my watch by sliding
Nice video Tariq. Yes I am switching from Garmin to Apple Watch following this OS release. Hoping to see Strava live segments appear and a climbpro type feature.
I watched yesterday the keynote. My question is, do I really need a separate speed sensor which I have to connect? The watch itself has even dual GPS, why do I have to have a separate sensor?
You don’t need to. The GPS works just fine. However, if you are riding indoors for example and would like to connect a separate sensor to measure speed or cadence from your stationary bike, then it’s an option you will be able to do.
Just pre ordered watch ultra 2, I’m new to zwift and use a chest strap for Heart rate, will the ultra 2 show my heart rate on zwift ,with no need to use the chest strap any more.thanks
The developer beta is actually open to everyone for free, not just developers! Have you had a chance to check it out? I’m super curious what the power meter support is like.
Great info as always. I have an Apple Watch Series 7. Do you see any limitations to these upgrades given a series 7? I'm assuming the series 7 will be able to upgrade to OS10.
Yes you should be able to upgrade and I believe many of these updates should show up on the series 7 outside of the motion sensor API capabilities that is only available on the 8 and Ultra.
Nice review, however I wouldn't call it a giant leap since 3rd party apps could already provide this functionality and more but it's nice there being a native way which is probably more power efficient and has a better UX. WorkoutDoors still has a lot more cool feature though.
Don’t think that will happen. Apple pairs your watch with your phone and displays data on that. In my opinion that has two major drawbacks. 1. Battery 🪫 Life on your iPhone 📱 is very bad compared to a cycling computer. 2. Having your your expensive phone 📱 mounted to your bike 🚴 is a hazard if you crash 💥 or vibrations may damage your phone 😮.
At this point and the information out there, seems to support most Bluetooth sensors including dual sided power meters but will only record as a single file. As for exercise bikes, I’m guessing as long as they broadcast in Bluetooth, then you should have no problem pairing it to the Apple Watch.
Hey, could you Please recommend such a sensor, which will connect to that new iOS / watchOS ? I am a beginner, so dont want to spend a lot of money on that. Thanks :)
@@michazieba5142 Something like the Wahoo or Garmin cadence sensors should work. If you decide to go with Garmin, just make sure it is bluetooth compatible like this one: amzn.to/3XBQ9D5. Or go with the Wahoo sensor: amzn.to/3NDmiFx Other cadence sensors that should be compatible from CycPlus, Magene, and others: amzn.to/43eSCVd
@@SmartBikeTrainers i did paired wahoo cadence sensor with apple watch ultra and i use my i phone as a bike computer while riding but they didn't show cadence on any screen
Hmm… interesting. Did you add cadence metric to your cycling page? do you know if it is recording cadence? If you look at your ride in the fitness app, do you see cadence data?
This is fire. I've been waiting for this for 5+ years. Literally almost bought a Garmin bike computer right before this announcement. Very much looking forward to this update and hopefully it's accurate date. And I'm sure it will be as Apple has probably been working on this for years. Now if we could only get trail forks on the Apple Watch. But being able to add a power meter is fire.
Great overview!! 👋👏👏👏Since I ride with a cycling computer, most of these new features for cycling don't affect me since I don't use my iPhone/Apple Watch to monitor cycling metrics. The one thing Apple could have have done for riders like me was to allow the Apple Watch to directly supply heart rate data to cycling computers like my Garmin 1030+. But, alas, as you said, Apple chose to deny this functionality to its users. I don't think this has anything to do with technical limitations. I think it has everything to do with the fact that Apple would rather put every employee's first born child up for adoption before doing anything that would improve the performance of a competitor, in this case, especially Garmin. The curious thing here is that by not offering native heart rate functionality, Apple has continued to make Garmin fitness watches a more than competitive option in the cycling enthusiast space. Of course, just my opinion. P.S. I was also disappointed to not see an Apple Health app for the Apple Watch. I would love to have access to these metrics on my Watch without having to use a third party subscription app like Athlytic. COME ON APPLE!!!
Definitely would’ve loved to see HR broadcasting in this update. I don’t think Apple is opposed to adding this and we might see it in a future watch or WatchOS update.
@@SmartBikeTrainers I hope you're right and we don't have to wait for Apple to manufacture their own cycling computer before we get this functionality. 🙄😳🤣
Thanks for covering this! I pre-ordered and adopted the first gen Apple watch, and currently have a gen 6 one, precisely because it had at least basic support for cycling workouts, when everyone else only supported running or swimming. This was pre-Strava I think, and only basic bike computers were available. The Apple watch has just gotten more capable over the years. I think I'll still rely on my Garmin as my main ride tracker and interface with my power meter and other sensors, with Strava to track. However, I like that the Apple watch pulls that data together with other activities to help me build a complete picture of how things are going.
I’ve been an iOS fanboy since the first iPhone, and other than the release of the App Store, I’ve never been more excited about an update. I was about to dive into the Garmin system too. I’m so glad they are doing this. Especially having the phone stats on your phone. All my bikes have the same mount for my phone so it’s perfect. I can’t wait.
I’m only waiting for them to do something with cross country skiing. Now it’s only measuring heart rate and calories. Why?? They could simply copy running and rename it cross country skiing.
I use wahoo speed & cadence sensors to pair with my apple watch and i felt little bit delayed about 2-3 seconds. How to fix it?
question, since you mentioned speed sensor, why is there need for external speed sensor when apple watch already does it for you pretty accurately? Does that conserve apple watch battery?
It’s an additional option to record speed that can come in handy in places where GPS signal might not be as good or indoor riding using a smart trainer or a spinning bike.
Weight traininng with reps counting …. Missed
Riiiight 😬
They will release this update on Watch OS 38
I wonder the cycling feature is only for AW Ultra2 or AW9
This is a watchOS10 feature so it should technically work on both and previous models.
hi, thanks for the video. where does it show the calories burned during and outdoor cycle? i used it for the first time today and the auto pause feature was invasive, and failed to capture more than 50% of my workout because of it..
You should be able to select calories in the outdoor cycling workout setting menu as a field and select which page you would like it be displayed in.
I'm looking forward to your feedback once you've tested especially will it connect to a trainer(kicker) and read power and find ftp from the trainer in the same way that say TrainerRoad will calculate your FTP after a ramp test without an independent power meter. Or maybe this might come through the api and another app provider. Still interesting possibilities.
I am looking forward to testing these new features and will keep the channel updated 👍
I’m looking forward to this as well - especially the integration of additional ftp updates in real-time. It will be interesting to see how and if the new features apply across the different turbo trainers and on platforms like Zwift. Thanks for this video update.
Will this be possible too where the heart rate monitor can display on your bike computer like a wahoo bolt? I want to buy a bolt instead of taking my phone with me - but I don't want to buy a heart rate monitor cause I already have a watch to monitor my heart rate, I just want to be able to see it on my bolt during the ride.
Unfortunately heart rate broadcasting isn’t available on the Apple Watch yet.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Does that YET word mean that we think it will ever be, do you know if that will come in with Watch OS 10??
There is nothing in WatchOS 10 that will lead me to believe that they will add HR broadcasting.
@@SmartBikeTrainers So this is an interesting thing - I talked with Wahoo and they say it's an Apple thing that it won't hook up to the bike computer, then I talk with Apple, they don't understand (at least the person I talked to at Apple) why it can't cause the watch is bluetooth enabled, and they blame the incompatibility on the 3rd party. Why can't these guys get their stuff together and serve our community properly.
Excellent overview and brilliant update from Apple.. decided to upgrade and invest in an Apple Watch Ultra 😊
That’s great. Been loving my Ultra and can’t take it off my wrist. Thanks for watching!
Same! This pushed me over the edge with the Garmin
Im about to try to get me a Cycling setup with Zwift. You have a video on everything needed for a good setup? Im trying to track calories as accurately as possible too. Not sure how many different devices i need for all the features i want 😩 its confusing
Here is a video I did on that. Hope that helps:
Quality Zwift Setup on a Budget: My Top Picks For One Heck of A Zwift Setup
ua-cam.com/video/n0gUgeH7JOs/v-deo.html
@@SmartBikeTrainers thnks. I just subbed and been binging videos. I literally found the video after I put this comment down 😅
a quality which cyclists don’t often consider is ruggedness or durability. if you were doing a spartan event would you wear an apple watch? would an apple watch survive undamaged? probably not.
The Apple Watch ultra is pretty rugged and I think will survive events like this without an issue
I’ve owned both Garmin Fenix’s and currently wear the Apple Watch Ultra. I can confirm that my experience has been the Ultra is incredibly durable! I have a very active lifestyle and employment and it’s taken plenty of hits and currently has no marks on it. My Fenix was great too but I managed to scratch the bezel on it.
@@bkp083 thanks
Wut? Lol my watch is scratched to death and has been through hell and I’ve never cracked the screen. It’ll survive, especially the new titanium one.
Yeah, I have the ultra and have put it through the wringer for the last 8 months. It's built like a tank. I've bashed it on my bike rack, ridden 1000+ miles on downhill MTB trails, smashed it into desks and counters... nothing. Not even a scratch. Titanium man... You would have to intentionally smash a rock on it's crystal, square on to crack it. I wouldn't worry about it unless you are cage fighting with weapons.
Is watchOS 10 enough? not sure. I own an iPhone 8, not longer supported by next iOS 17 update: will I be able to update my Apple Watch Series 5 to WatchOS 10? if I need to get a new iPhone, then perhaps I will but for sure my next watch won't be an apple, I would get a Garmin Fenix 7 pro. Also, the only advantage of apple so far is the quality of the heart rate sensor, other than that Garmin has superior physiological parameters analysis, data display, topological maps, battery, watch construction... I don't know... Watch Ultra 2 matching Garmin Epix 2 pro battery would be interesting.
Best feature compared to bike computers is the possibility to make workouts directly on the watch. The only thing I’m missing is radar support.
Great video, however without Apple including native heat rate re-broadcast via atleast bluetooth to a cycle computer such as Wahoo or Garmin the Apple watch and IOS continues to be a major fail to me and will stick with a Garmin !!!
As a gamer and pc builder 60 frames is more than enough, they should prioritize better graphic’s rather than more frames. I would even suggest that for a slow paced game like Zwift even a steady frame rate of 30 would work fine.
I was literally about to buy a wahoo or Garmin until they have announced this. I have an Apple Watch 8, but it’s lacking cadence/accuracy of a speed sensor (which as a result causes distance to be abit off). Now with this new update, all I need to buy is a set of sensors + power meter, use my phone mount with Apple Watch, you have a FULL set of cycling data. Amazing!
The watch does better than high end bike computers for example it shows the zone your in and automatically calculates ur fpt, bike computers need to step there game up
Amazing, i’m cyclist and i always use my phone on my cockpit, and with the years it becomes difficult to read my garmin datas. I will use the watch replication on iphone in the coming next future now that there is the third party connection. And i could forgot my heartbeat belt : just the best new of the day : Thank you !
Friends,I see we have gone favorite apps or last opened on the right side button. Instead there is a control center. A bit of a shame, or is that still changeable ?Plus, I can't change the face of my watch by sliding
You should be able to view your favorite apps by swiping up on the screen or moving the crown.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Swipe the crown to see the smart cards for the day..
Nice video Tariq. Yes I am switching from Garmin to Apple Watch following this OS release. Hoping to see Strava live segments appear and a climbpro type feature.
All the bike computer companies better get innovative or one day we'll just need to mount our phones to replace them
But bike computers had all this for years
I watched yesterday the keynote. My question is, do I really need a separate speed sensor which I have to connect? The watch itself has even dual GPS, why do I have to have a separate sensor?
You don’t need to. The GPS works just fine. However, if you are riding indoors for example and would like to connect a separate sensor to measure speed or cadence from your stationary bike, then it’s an option you will be able to do.
Just pre ordered watch ultra 2, I’m new to zwift and use a chest strap for Heart rate, will the ultra 2 show my heart rate on zwift ,with no need to use the chest strap any more.thanks
Yes, you should be able to pair your ultra 2 with Zwift for HR. Congrats on the Ultra 2!
The developer beta is actually open to everyone for free, not just developers! Have you had a chance to check it out? I’m super curious what the power meter support is like.
I generally prefer to wait until they have the public beta out to test out new features.
Great info as always. I have an Apple Watch Series 7. Do you see any limitations to these upgrades given a series 7? I'm assuming the series 7 will be able to upgrade to OS10.
Yes you should be able to upgrade and I believe many of these updates should show up on the series 7 outside of the motion sensor API capabilities that is only available on the 8 and Ultra.
Very informative video, thank you. Will apple watch be able to show ave hr during activity?
Yes, average HR is a metric you can display on the Apple Watch 👍
Nice review, however I wouldn't call it a giant leap since 3rd party apps could already provide this functionality and more but it's nice there being a native way which is probably more power efficient and has a better UX. WorkoutDoors still has a lot more cool feature though.
That is true. I think the native integration will be more seamless and much easier to use. I find myself never using any third party app on the watch.
I like new updates, but the Apple watch is very expensive and I need an iPhone for that too...
Definitely not a cheap investment particularly if you need to get an iPhone.
I just want apple to make a dedicated bike computer….
That would be the best thing ever
Don’t think that will happen. Apple pairs your watch with your phone and displays data on that. In my opinion that has two major drawbacks. 1. Battery 🪫 Life on your iPhone 📱 is very bad compared to a cycling computer. 2. Having your your expensive phone 📱 mounted to your bike 🚴 is a hazard if you crash 💥 or vibrations may damage your phone 😮.
Nice info!! Which bluetooth bike sensors will the update support? Will these sensors work on exercise bikes?
At this point and the information out there, seems to support most Bluetooth sensors including dual sided power meters but will only record as a single file. As for exercise bikes, I’m guessing as long as they broadcast in Bluetooth, then you should have no problem pairing it to the Apple Watch.
Hey, could you Please recommend such a sensor, which will connect to that new iOS / watchOS ? I am a beginner, so dont want to spend a lot of money on that. Thanks :)
Hi, any sensor that is Bluetooth compatible should work. What type of sensor are you looking to get?
Well, due to my hurting knees, someone told me to keep rpm / cadence at 80. So I want to track it:)
@@michazieba5142 Something like the Wahoo or Garmin cadence sensors should work. If you decide to go with Garmin, just make sure it is bluetooth compatible like this one: amzn.to/3XBQ9D5.
Or go with the Wahoo sensor: amzn.to/3NDmiFx
Other cadence sensors that should be compatible from CycPlus, Magene, and others: amzn.to/43eSCVd
Thanks :)
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i didn't see cadence values when i was riding now after lunching official watchOS 10
You will need to pair a Bluetooth cadence sensor to the watch to record and see cadence.
@@SmartBikeTrainers i did paired wahoo cadence sensor with apple watch ultra and i use my i phone as a bike computer while riding but they didn't show cadence on any screen
Hmm… interesting. Did you add cadence metric to your cycling page?
do you know if it is recording cadence? If you look at your ride in the fitness app, do you see cadence data?
@@SmartBikeTrainers just like you said, i didn't add cadence data