About four years ago, I had a stroke and I fell, and I couldn’t get up and I use the SOS feature of my watch to call 911. So, in a very real sense, my watch did help save me from a worse outcome.
That's awesome and the best benefit of the watch. Even if it's not necessarily unique to the watch. I mean life alert began doing this kind of tech stuff in the 80's.
My mother tripped on an uneven sidewalk and fell right on her cheek bone on the concrete. Her Apple Watch called 911 as she was concussed and confused with no one around. It truly can be a life saving device for many people. I’m forever sold.
Ah yes, the anecdote fallacy. This is because you don’t work in healthcare and laugh at ECG on watches. Go take an EKG interpretation class and see how silly the concept is.
@@zeitgeistx5239 It's not a fallacy, the watch fulfilled its desired purpose for that individual regardless how you personally feel about its necessity in general or otherwise.
@@dominic.h.3363Mm it seems you’ve fallen to the fallacy of the fallacy fallacy. Just because something is a fallacy, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s fallacy.
I just got a wearable wristband for my kid who has seizures. It notifies parents when it detects a seizure. The device is just a wristband, but there is an app for apple and android watches that claim to do the same function. They all take a monthly sub for the monitoring, so it would be helpful to have studies that were run by independent sources to make sure we are getting something that actually helps.
Look on UA-cam that's how I found that the Samsung was the best one for me after my Mental doctor who is very new age recommended me get a ring or watch to track sleep.
Medic student here. I had suspected that I might have SVT, and after an episode of syncope during an episode of tachycardia, palpitations, difficulty breathing etc. I decided to pick up an apple watch. First ECG I captured was textbook SVT: Narrow complex, hidden P-waves, 190bpm. Took that into my GP and her first words was "that's awesome, that's so cool! I can't believe you caught that!". I'm now scheduled for an ablation!
I believe it could be really helpful in specific situations for educated people like yourself (I'm a RN) but for most people they don't have the knowledge to piece this info together and put it into any meaningful context.
My mom has had afib since she was a teenager, but she didn't know it until 2020. It was getting worse, happening more often, and lasting longer. She got a Galaxy watch for free with a phone, and even though she doesn't ever wear it, she was using it to keep track of her afib before she had an ablation. It helped her doctors get a better idea of how much it was affecting her. I totally get how people become anxious over the functionalities on their watches and not understanding how helpful or harmful certain data is.
To be completely honest I had weird heart palpitations last year, did a few ECGs on my watch over maybe an hour or so, took the readings to the hospital and they did find issues with my heart. It didn’t solve anything but the watch at least gave me something to hand to a doctor to look at.
But his point is you could have gone to the hospital when you felt the palpitations and get your heart checked out and would have found the issue anyway. You don’t need the watch for this.
@@andreicmello I’m aware I don’t need it. I didn’t say anyone needed it. But I went to the hospital with PDF readings of at least a basic ECG showing the issue, frequency, as well as history of ECGs prior to compare with. The doctors who took all the information told me this was fairly impressive and helped them in getting things sorted faster.
@@andreicmelloan ECG could be nice to help determine if someone should go through a stress test though. If you see multiple bouts of V-tach or SVT and St Depression that would to me make you think you should be in the cath lab instead of getting tested first.
@andreicmello it's very easy to blame palpitations on anxiety if someone already has a history of that. It's also very easy to blame it on circumstances if a lot is going on or something big comes up. We may fare without the device, but that doesn't mean someone is wrong if they choose to use it. If it helped this person, then it helped this person.
He's just one doctor... I'm a health professional, and I can tell you most doctors have mixed opinions about this, but most agree the ECG is (incomplete, but) pretty accurate. I know of one doctor that does house calls to remote areas, and uses his own watch to take people's ECG sometimes. However, wife is an ER doctor, and she's tired of people coming in 'cause their "heart rate is lower than normal". Personally, I can't wait for the day it monitors glucose
Interesting. I'm not sure if you're saying he claimed it isn't accurate? Because I don't believe that was his intention. It seemed to me he was saying that without proper context the data were difficult to act on.
will it even be possible tho? Is there any tech right now that can take glucose readings without breaking the skin? I know there are sensors that can connect to smartwatch via bluetooth and monitore glucose this way
It’s not about accuracy, it’s about context. Let’s say it picks up occasional intermittent runs of AF in an otherwise healthy 20 year old. Wtf do you do with that information? We don’t have research to guide us like we do in older/symptomatic populations. Is it relevant? Will it cause any harm? If we treat are we helping? Or are we just exposing to unnecessary risks of treatment for no benefit? We don’t know.
I have been using health gadgets for almost 10 years now. I've had 5 gadgets over the years. • Fitbit Flex • Fitbit Flex 2 • Fitbit Inspire 2 • Fitbit Inspire 3 • Vital Bracelet BE I love having health gadgets, but I've had doctors tell me not to trust them. It can start a conversation, but it won't solve anything. I love that it is WAY more fun to get out and exercise than it use to be because anything that can lead me to better health is good. Just know it isn't perfect, anything can happen and if you know the answer, then you're probably right and just trust your gut and listen to your doctor first and foremost. Active gadgets can be great, but not a solution.
It all depends on how you take the information. I'm a nurse and when I see the information I take it with my knowledge of what I have learned with my education. If I see something troubling I use it as more of a warning. You can't take maybe the 1 or 2x of high BP and panic. It's like when I have been asked by people "I have a cough. What does that mean?" Cancer! I don't know!
Educated patient who has learned to live with cardiac issues for 25+ years. I can easily feel tachy (SVT), PVCs, and atrial flutter but it's nice to have confirmation without reaching for my Kardia. Can I tell a PVC from a PAC? Nope, and unsure anyone can from a single-lead device. But again, it's an arrhythmia and having a record of the event and being able to track it over time is actually reassuring. Certainly, if I had a different personality I might be running to the ER every time my watch beeped and just get anxious waiting for the next alert. But short of getting my own halter or (heaven forbid) Medtronic giving me access to my pacemaker readings a smartwatch is my only reasonable option.
I have Afb. Before I was diagnosed, my heart rate is really irregular like 25% if the time. Then after taking medication, it notified me that it lessens, since then it only reads I have 2%.
I wouldn’t say it’s purely for entertainment, the gamification aspect of measuring your progress makes it more likely that you will stick to the activities which help you lower that number. i think that’s where the Apple Watch really shines. Also when it comes to sleeping for example, it genuinely helps me sleep better I can clearly tell if the things I’m doing to sleep better genuinely help, i modified my sleep schedule, exercise schedule, i sit in the dark an hour before going to bed, i listen to audiobooks, i wake up every day at the same time… and i know it works because i see the effect it has on my trends.
Totally agree with Dr. Mike...for me the only real reason I have a Apple Watch is for convience, much like a regular watch, but now I can respond to a text message, maybe look up directions, and pay/monitor stuff without needing my giant phone which I cannot have on me when working out or riding my bike as it would fly out of my pocket. The ultimate thing these smart watches can do the best at: making a phone call for an emergency (aka...old school Life Alert). Its why I wear my smart watch, just in case I fall, crash, get stranded, etc I can make a call.
I’ve gone through this fitness tracker anxiety. Before, I used to feel great but ever since I began to constantly track my head rate, oxygen level and breaths per minute, I have been having a bit of issues breathing. So it definitely can help to sometimes ignore the trackers
Breathing issues? So it isn't just me! But I never would have thought to blame it on my devices! Makes me wonder if I should chuck the watch for a while. I like having it because I can answer my phone or shut my alarm up if it goes off at the wrong time. That would have come in real Handy last Sunday morning if I had realized that my watch was going off because I had an alarm going off. I had forgotten about the weekly reminder to get ready for coffee cart set up at church, and I was starting to return to my seat when my watch went off and I wasn't sure why.
I am not in great shape so just to do a light cleaning. I noticed my heartbeat go to high. Now I noticed that when I started getting more active my heartbeat went lower. So I ues my fit bit to see my progress. So I am getting healthier. It's really helping me with my bad sleep habits and I am getting better. I really feel that is good for me to get healthier
I totally agreed with him. The watch has great sensors, but it’s different from proper medical gearing. If you do an EKG on your watch, you only have one lead. Standard EKG is 12 leads, just to pinpoint one of the differences. What we really need is research and a lot of AI to help understand how can we use this data and standardize it, because if Apple does something in one generation and change it in the other, results are gone be different, not to mention the variation between all the different products that do this measures. Now, it’s more of a gimmicky/enthusiast tool than a life changer.
He brought a good point, does it matter to track as long as you’re doing the habits? I will say it’s nice to see that it’s working, like he said it’s a motivator.
Yes 100% I would be dead now if I was still taking 400mg of blood presure medicine instead of 200mg... AsI had that much becuase it was heard to treat and was likely stress but I lowered my stress and lower the blood pressure meaning if I had taken that extra 2000mG I would have died from 0BPM heart rate.
I love my garmin watch because I can track my walking / hiking. But yes, I have had to turn off a lot of the health noise tracking because it was actually increasing my anxiety. On the flip side, I have my mom to turn hers on when she is walking at the park. So if she falls asleep will be notified.
Fitness trackers are for motivation and to remember your (in) consistency over time. Very easy to misremember effort in the past, which is why tracking it allows you to better understand and improve your progress
Retired physician. I've had intermittent A.fib for over a decade. It occurs for about 24 hours or less about every 2-3 months. I always know when I have it if I'm awake. I don't ever remember it waking me up but I have had it while I'm asleep. I got the Apple Watch and it now summarizes what % of the time I'm in A.Fib every month. That, the Activity app, and (especially) the Shazam complication on my watch face is why I continue to wear one.
I like Dr. Mike’s medical input. It made sense and he has a point and obviously sees the benefits. Being healthy definitely requires a life style change and I think tech that helps motivate you is awesome. I personally love to track my workouts on my watch because it’s satisfying to close the rings. And I know that alone isn’t what is keeping me healthy but that little boost helps kickstart. My husband has been on a healthy journey and loves any type of data, so tracking everything is purely for his own pleasure and satisfaction.
I had some nightly low heart rate alerts during my peak fitness form (I’m a long distance runner). I was OK with that. What I would not be OK is to miss such an alert out of bounds of my peak fitness form. Also I’m using ECG to communicate its results to my health check doctors. Which saves a lot of mine and their time. Also-also, VO2Max is AFAIK one metrics that highly correlates with life longevity. So, I keep my health and fitness in check to keep this metric above average))
the health anxiety conversation is interesting to me, since I had very bad health anxiety and since I started using an Apple Watch that has pretty much been eliminated. having objective and clear measurements in front of me at any point and having active encouragement to move and exercise is incredibly reassuring.
I’ve used the Apple Watch for two years to track my Afib. I had an ablation and three weeks later my watch told me that I was back in Afib. I was able to send the data back to my cardiologist which created an appointment to do a a cardio version which brought me back to sinus rhythm. It’s a great tool.
Well, speaking about creatinine, maybe for heals it's a 5% top improvement, but for looks and generally appearing big, it definitely has a higher degree of an affect
I purchased an Apple Watch based on my heart problems and the pacemaker I have. I didn’t expect it to be accurate to medical grade stuff. But i shown my doctor the results of my ECG readings and said is this normal because my readings looked like a child’s angry scribble. He said that is normal for someone with your condition. It shocked me how all over the place my heart is and Apple Watch was able to show me this. I’m sure the Samsung/google version would of shown me exactly the same and I only purchased the Apple Watch because I have an iPhone but still in shock what tech can show you currently
One thing I will mention as a benefit with wearable health tech (I personally use a fitbit) is that there is a direct correlation with documenting progressive habit formation and the amount of follow through you have with habit forming. I just got done reading atomic habits, a lot of people have read this book I know, but it talks about how much more likely you are to remain consistent with developing and mantaining good habits if you are actively documenting progess. That is what the fitbit has helped me with personally, more than just being a heart rate monitor and step counter.
Just bought myself a galaxy watch the other day. The unexpected benefit I've notified right away is the "Time to move" automatic feature which does work in my case. Even if I shut it down, slowly but surely it makes me stand up and move compared to spending 6-11 hours in front of my computer all day (besides the obvious rounds to the fridge, sink and toilet). Which was a surprise.
I spent a year in and out of a&e multiple times a week, doctors couldn't find what was wrong with me as the readings were normal when I got there, I eventually got fed up and bought a Samsung watch a kept all the readings for the cardiologist, I was able to get my Dx a year later with the help of my watch, it literally saved my life. I now lead a fairly regular life with it. Edit: and it has saved my life since upon fainting and hitting my head when alone, it's great technology to have at fairly affordable prices.
I love my watch and it does warn me of some things with my heart health. However, in addition to my watch, my doctor told me to purchase a Kardia portable EKG that provides a cardiologist with a 6 lead EKG. This was much more helpful for my dr. and we finally "caught" my heart "in action"
More than entertainment, I really think this devices do help in saving lifes, either because you are overweight and need exercise to get a lower weight, or because you did have a Heart Attack and the doctor suggests exercise, regardless of brands or if it is a smartwatch or smartband. Even then, there are brands like Xiaomi that integrate those devices with smart scales for weight tracking and body composition, so we may have inconsistencies today, but they really help people in motivation and getting better
I'm glad you guys covered this, and I really agree with and resonate with Mike's opinion. I myself have struggled with health anxiety which got pretty severe this last year for a number of reasons. I also bought an Apple Watch last year, and wore it pretty much every day. Having that consistent access to knowledge about my heart rate, blood oxygen level, etc. was something I thought would be comforting, but in reality it just made my anxiety worse. I haven't worn the watch in lile 5 months now, and I haven't had a severe anxiety episode since. Obviously everyone's situation is different, but I found it best not to wear the watch, as it just made my already bad health anxiety worse.
I’m exactly the same. I haven’t used my Apple Watch in years because I know that if I do then I’m going to spend ages sifting through the health app seeing if something’s wrong. Now I just use the built-in fitness app in iOS which very loosely tracks steps+calories and I’ve been much happier and more active
I was the same with my Apple Watch. I would look at my heart rate and get anxiety when wonder why my heart is beating low it was. So I just turned the heart monitor part off.
Apple Watch motivated me to lose 60lbs. I’d say it was worthwhile. Turned my whole life around from a fitness and wellness perspective. I’m in my late 30s and I’ve never been stronger. I went from losing the weight to now I’m actually getting ripped. Call me daddy, lol. Nothing else kept me accountable before now.
@@todaywelearnedprobably because smartwatches count your steps ,give you some Information about your heart rate and other fitness information,I also got motivated just by wearing an Apple Watch to walk more often when previously I didn’t have the desire to do that .
@@todaywelearnedmy biggest motivation is seeing my resting heart rate decrease by almost 30bpm now after losing weight, VO2 max has increased dramatically, ensuring I hit at least 10k steps a day, and seeing my sleep so I can accurately adjust my life style to ensure I get an actual 8 hours. Also saw my sleep apnea improve by less wake ups and better oxygen at night
I love how the comments are filled with people who have real world experience where various safety and health features from this technology made a significant impact, while Dr. Mike is saying this will have a negative effect on society.
Yes you can ramble on about the false alerts, but its about when it works. Obviously everyone has to the be aware of the mental blockades these reading can build, but aslong as youre aware of what the watch can do and how to read it their doing just great.
Yeah I feel like we're not really "meant" to have real-time access to this data, your heart rate is regulated by the **autonomic** nervous system, meaning automatic, meaning we can't control it. Having access to data of things you can't control is just a recipe for anxiety. However, I think there is one very useful metric - HRV. The balance between your body's relaxation response and stress response. Once you get a consistent trend of this data you can start taking lifestyle interventions to try and increase this number and thus increase the health of your nervous system. HRV biofeedback breathing is especially useful since it trains you to breathe in a way that maximizes your HRV for short sessions, then overtime your baseline HRV actually does increase.
I happen to get anxiousness and nervousness QUITE easily, and I feel my heart pounding and I get nasuea most of the times, but now with my smartwatch sometimes I get anxious, and I get even more anxious to the thought that if I take a look at my watch I'll look at a big number like 120bpm 🙃 but then, I finally look at my watch and it's like "70 bpm :)" And it feels so weird to look at a normal number when I can feel my heart beating faster than usual 😂
I had a loop recorder in my chest for 3yrs to capture data on a heart concern. Never had an incident during the 3yrs. 6 months after the loop recorder was removed, I had symptoms. Used the ECG on the Apple Watch to record the incident. Cardiologist used the data to diagnose the issue as ectopic heartbeats. Now I know what to do when it happens (which is rarely). Positive outcome for me
How is checking things like your heart rate while working out or trades over time not useful for the average person. Rearearch tells us a lot of people overestimate how much they do and these watches can give them specific data on their works and and if they're working out hard enough because of the passive nature of its data collection and it's non reliance on human memory.
The ECG in smartwatches actually help a lot! It is more accurate and easier that a holter monitor. I have seen people in ED print out an ecg report from their watch which shows Atrial Fibrillation and was found out to have a fib and was appropriately managed!
The apple watch got me to visit a doctor. Heart rate of 150+ while doing desk work isn't good. I just having cold sweats but with the watch, it told me something was wrong. Without the watch records I wouldn't been able to go further with a heart monitor through my insurance if I didn't have an records.
My mother fell last week with her bike and she wasn't alone so there were people to help her, but the Apple Watch instantly triggered the SOS fall detection. If she'd be alone and maybe knocked out by the fall something like this can save a life. Also, a friend of mine realized they have a heart sickness since their resting heart rate was below 45 while he doesn't work out. Mine is at 45-47 while I'm in my mid 20s and work out 5 times a week. So he checked it with a doctor and he indeed has a chronical heart issue where his heart is beating to slow which also explains why he wasn't able to work out with a high BPM without having issues with oxygen etc. So yes if you don't know what the measurements mean I'd say it's gimmick but if you actually know that i.e. your HRV is higher if your rest was good and that it's lower if you worked out too much or didn't sleep well, getting sick, etc. things like this can give you important indicators for your life.
My immediate thought is a dystopia where your insurance is directly tied to the data on your Apple watch, to the extent that you can't get insurance if you're not in the Apple Product system.
Well it's good to know that I shouldn't take some of those health things too much to heart, but I really like the sleep thing that tells me how much sleep I got because I don't always get as much as I should and it helps and keeps shooting for 8 hours. I also appreciate that I can answer my phone or silence an alarm from my SmartWatch as well if my phone is out of my reach and I don't want it to be disruptive to others.
I had to make myself stop wearing mine because of my panic disorder. My biggest trigger and symptom for/of panic attacks is sudden and severe medical anxiety about my cardiac health, and I have a plethora of physical discomforts that come on from it; making it a little more complicated than just knowing its anxiety and brushing it off (although I work on being able to do that lol). So when I become anxious and the stress raises my heart rate, and then the watch goes off giving me a warning, its like a positive feedback loop enabling my irrational and anxious thoughts. Just unfortunate.
I was hoping they'd address that too. The research says no, but there are thousands of smartwatch users online complaining of pain in the wrist/arm or red bumps/abrasions in the skin under the watch. I am definitely not one of those "anti-EMF/microwave radiation" weirdos, I always scoffed at those people who go off-grid to try and avoid it. Because radiation is everywhere - even the earth, the sun, the human body. But I keep getting pain when I wear my Galaxy watch. I loosened the strap, no change. I take it off, the pain goes away. I put it on the opposite wrist, I get pain on that side. And when I first got it, I developed an abrasion on my wrist under the watch (where the light sensor is) that made my skin look slightly leathery and red. It did heal over time. I would've assumed it's pinching a nerve from the design or level of tightness on the strap. But someone brought up an interesting point: "If it was just nerve pain, why aren't regular watches causing these issues?" 🧐 This needs to be looked into a little more closely.
I am using a Fitbit but only for counting steps, track time in the gym and heart rate during workout and calculate calories burned and the notifications for my calendar. The other stuff just came with it.
It's strange that they're so focused on specifically the health tracking features, when most people are focused on other things - fall detection, emergency calling, location tracking, etc. The Watch does a ton more things than just gamifying your health statistics.
When i was in early 20s (a few years ago) i went to Vegas and was very hung over on the plane ride home. I was feeling very anxious and didn’t know if i could make it through the plane ride. Got on the plane and was feeling okay talking to my neighbor. My Apple Watch told me my heart rate is way too high and i should calm down, and this was mid take off. I will tell you that did not make me feel better and i started to freak out more. Ended up being fine but it spooked me more
Ny fitbit ECG detected afib, so i made an appointment with the doctor even though i didn't have any serious symptoms. and he confirmed it and started the therapy process. So if that means i won't get a stroke in the near future, i say it was very beneficial! the irony is that i bought the thing because i wanted to get more serious with exercise, which is now put on hold while this is going on...
I don’t have an Apple Watch, but I use the walking app in my iPhone, it’s great for tracking speed and distance, but I honestly use it to brag with my friends 😂
I use my older Garmin forerunner 35 watch as a way of gamifying exercising/fitness and habit building but never think that the HR is accurate (it sometimes measure a heart beat when I'm not wearing it).....
I don't use my health gadget (an older Fitbit) for too much, but I've found that it helps me lose weight. Coordinating calorie counting with the gadget/app estimate of my calorie usage based on heart rate/activity has been really helpful. I don't know if the calorie usage estimate is correct, but it has been correct *enough* to be useful and encourage me.
I would say that in terms of using gear as motivation, fitness watches are better then other gear in that you can also track your progress, and you can also get the satisfaction of checking things off. So you get continual motivation from the same product by getting things done and by looking at your history. That’s unique to software gear and so in a way, it’s like buying new gear continually.
The truth is the watch is paired with the Health app. So you can give doctor history. Because as it now you meet a new doctor how many metrics does he have to measure you other then your own perception. If you have data you have both your own perceptions and data. How much a patient move, heath rate and so on the better, doctors are sometimes flying blind because patient sometimes can’t tell you anything about them.
I have found it to be an extra piece of motivation in the early stages of a new exercise routine, when it is hardest to keep it up. At least for me, my resting heart rate decreases way before any noticeable physical changes.
That's great information and more people need to hear this. I had a watch for half a year and while it was fun at the beginning, I eventually sold it again. I just didn't get any valueable or actionable information out of it. It just proved things I already knew, like alcohol having a bad effect on my sleep and HRV. If your sleep is really messed up, it's very bad at catching that accurately, especially the time you sleep in and wake up, and if your sleep is good, there's not much benefit of measuring it. Other than that, it was mostly a waste of my money, time and energy, sometimes leading to unnecessary obsession, worry, paralysis and stress. I now do a quarterly health assessment where I measure my blood pressure, fasted blood sugar and other parameters.
I suffer from very bad sleep habits, I can't get to bet on time and I can't get up on time either. I know, I know, this is a purely discipline issue. I even went to a therapist who told me that I can solve this by waking up at certain times every day. So I bought a fitbit watch and it kind of helps... that vibration on my wrist is annoying enough to get me out of bed. Plus I can agree that the watch really does wake me up when my sleep is in the lightest stage, so it is easier in mornings... And also I don't want to mess up my sleep stats so I just drag myself out of bed no matter how late I fell asleep.
i have adhd and whenever I take my meds for it (adderall), I always get heart rate alerts. makes the feature kind of useless but I hope I don’t miss anything because I’m just ignoring these alerts lol
What people need to think about is broader information with the heart rate monitor. My heart rate was always low (60-70) bpm...no big deal But paired with sudden weight gain, always fatigued and cold Its time to go to the doctor
I definitely feel that my wearable is more entertainment than usefull - mainly because I don't have a health problem that needs tracking and I'm happy to just keep my BMI below the obesity level. I consistently get 5 hours or less sleep but there's not a whole lot to do about that so having that information logged isn't helping. The most interesting data I've gathered so far is the gigantic difference in physical effort different jobs have. I'm currently re-educating myself to get a desk job and in the meantime I've got a part time job driving a truck and packing goods in a warehouse - 8 hours of standing up but mostly standing still. First semester I gained weight at an alarming rate and got a cheap Mibro fit watch, struggling to close circles and whatnot. Over the summer I went back to my old job as a cleaning lady for that sweet full-time vacation cover cash flow. *Suddenly I was doing 1.5 weeks worth of exercise every. single. day.* No shit I gained weight when I went sedentary, for 7 years I had to cram myself full of calories just to get through the day and I hadn't changed those habits anywhere near enough for my activity levels. These days I do not even bother logging my workouts in the watch, I just do my 30 minutes of daily exercise and try to walk more often when the opportunity arise. The watch is more useful as an alarm clock, because at work I need to be alerted 5 minutes in advance that my break is coming up so I can park the truck and clock out.
I have been thinking of getting a Fitbit charge 6 but don't want it to monitor my sleep because I have insomnia and know I sleep badly. I don't want a watch making me feel worse because I know I have something tracking my sleep that could tell me I get very little decent sleep. I assume I would just take it off at night. I am really after something that will tell me how far I walked this month, what my heart rate was during weight training and that sort of thing. Ideally I would be able to have an analogue looking face on it when I just want to see the time.
I think fitibt now charges a monthly fee for you to see all your sleep tracking data. If you want to avoid it, you might be able to get a fitbit and just not subscribe?
This is why I deactivated regular heart rate detection. I was feeling great then suddenly I had this notification I was having high heart rates. I was feeling fine but then I started having panic attacks because of the watch.
My heart was beating in an afib pattern and the Apple Watch kept pinging me. I didn’t believe it for two day as I’m in my twenties, but I ended up going to the ER and they got my heartbeat back to regular. I would have never known without the watch.
Being a person that has heart issues…. Having the Apple Watch, I’ve been able to track and monitor if or when it happens. I find it a useful tool so that I can be more mindful about it.
I got an Apple Watch and it gave me that initial boost to start exercising. I am now running a marathon each year. It started with the Apple Watch and closing my rings.
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Interesting take. Mixed feelings. When I started tracking my heart rate through a chest strap and it got high while jogging or working out, a fitness app (back in the day) alerted me and also my fitness trainier told me to go see the doctor. The doctor then took a ECG under load and said "don't worry about numbers, you're fine". I also would feel a little anxious, If I got a notification from the apple watch, that my heart rate is too low. I'm totally with him in that respect. (same goes for creatine and stuff. If you don't eat well and train hard, start doing that first.) But then I track my hiking tours with komoot all the time and it gives me the extra bit of motivation I really need on these activities. I love seeing what I achieved. I wonder If the apple watch ultra would is the right device for me.
Better than the information from the watch are apps like Strava or Garmin Connect, which give more information and get you motivated with friends who share the same sports. I prefer data from my Garmin bike computer than from my Samsung Watch, The bike computer has better GPS tracking, better heart rate sensor and additional sensors for pedal rpm and speed.
These devices are generally great! My Apple Watch has gotten me into a very active lifestyle where I am always moving and stadning up trying to close the rings. It also helps me track my workouts (especially runs) super easily.
Y'know if healthcare were free people would be more incentivized to go to the doctor when they're not feeling well, rather than waiting on tech to tell you when it's pivotal that you go to the dr. Way more beneficial to society when those two things exist together.
The opposite problem was pointed out by another commenter. His ER nurse wife is tired of people coming in all worried because their heart rate is up, or something simple like that.
You all keep lumping in VO2 Max with A-fib detection and other alerts related to health problems. Nobody is going to the doctor because of what their watch tells them about their VO2 Max. It might not match the VO2 Max you get in a lab, but you're Garmin uses that number (you can think of it as a proprietary fitness score from the watch manufacturer rather than true VO2 Max if you like) to tailor your workouts and assess the effectiveness of your training, not to tell you about health problems.
Wow Dr. Mike is spot on! I have type 2 diabetes and every time I eat I get a high heart rate notification on my Apple Watch and it causes me more stress and anxious state. It makes me not want to eat and increases my heart rate iconically
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About four years ago, I had a stroke and I fell, and I couldn’t get up and I use the SOS feature of my watch to call 911. So, in a very real sense, my watch did help save me from a worse outcome.
Living testimony
As a neuro ICU nurse, very nice
@berengerchristy6256 as a neurosurgeon, no body frickin cares!!!!
That's awesome and the best benefit of the watch. Even if it's not necessarily unique to the watch. I mean life alert began doing this kind of tech stuff in the 80's.
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My mother tripped on an uneven sidewalk and fell right on her cheek bone on the concrete. Her Apple Watch called 911 as she was concussed and confused with no one around. It truly can be a life saving device for many people. I’m forever sold.
Ah yes, the anecdote fallacy. This is because you don’t work in healthcare and laugh at ECG on watches. Go take an EKG interpretation class and see how silly the concept is.
@@zeitgeistx5239 It's not a fallacy, the watch fulfilled its desired purpose for that individual regardless how you personally feel about its necessity in general or otherwise.
@@zeitgeistx5239Ah, yes, the fallacy fallacy. Just because you recognize a fallacy in a statement, it doesn't make the statement automatically false.
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@@dominic.h.3363Mm it seems you’ve fallen to the fallacy of the fallacy fallacy. Just because something is a fallacy, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s fallacy.
I just got a wearable wristband for my kid who has seizures. It notifies parents when it detects a seizure. The device is just a wristband, but there is an app for apple and android watches that claim to do the same function. They all take a monthly sub for the monitoring, so it would be helpful to have studies that were run by independent sources to make sure we are getting something that actually helps.
What’s the wristband called? My son has seizures too. Thanks!
@@zullyramon we have the Empatica Embrace.
Look on UA-cam that's how I found that the Samsung was the best one for me after my Mental doctor who is very new age recommended me get a ring or watch to track sleep.
Quantified scientists is a UA-cam channel that does correlation analysis with heart chest strap polar h10, it's very informative
Medic student here. I had suspected that I might have SVT, and after an episode of syncope during an episode of tachycardia, palpitations, difficulty breathing etc. I decided to pick up an apple watch. First ECG I captured was textbook SVT: Narrow complex, hidden P-waves, 190bpm. Took that into my GP and her first words was "that's awesome, that's so cool! I can't believe you caught that!". I'm now scheduled for an ablation!
I believe it could be really helpful in specific situations for educated people like yourself (I'm a RN) but for most people they don't have the knowledge to piece this info together and put it into any meaningful context.
@@Ann__333i agree too much anxiety
My mom has had afib since she was a teenager, but she didn't know it until 2020. It was getting worse, happening more often, and lasting longer. She got a Galaxy watch for free with a phone, and even though she doesn't ever wear it, she was using it to keep track of her afib before she had an ablation. It helped her doctors get a better idea of how much it was affecting her.
I totally get how people become anxious over the functionalities on their watches and not understanding how helpful or harmful certain data is.
To be completely honest I had weird heart palpitations last year, did a few ECGs on my watch over maybe an hour or so, took the readings to the hospital and they did find issues with my heart. It didn’t solve anything but the watch at least gave me something to hand to a doctor to look at.
But his point is you could have gone to the hospital when you felt the palpitations and get your heart checked out and would have found the issue anyway. You don’t need the watch for this.
@@andreicmello I’m aware I don’t need it. I didn’t say anyone needed it. But I went to the hospital with PDF readings of at least a basic ECG showing the issue, frequency, as well as history of ECGs prior to compare with. The doctors who took all the information told me this was fairly impressive and helped them in getting things sorted faster.
@@andreicmelloan ECG could be nice to help determine if someone should go through a stress test though. If you see multiple bouts of V-tach or SVT and St Depression that would to me make you think you should be in the cath lab instead of getting tested first.
@andreicmello it's very easy to blame palpitations on anxiety if someone already has a history of that. It's also very easy to blame it on circumstances if a lot is going on or something big comes up. We may fare without the device, but that doesn't mean someone is wrong if they choose to use it. If it helped this person, then it helped this person.
I am 100% sure that the doctor discarded the readings from your apple watch right away@@Jnthnpg
He's just one doctor... I'm a health professional, and I can tell you most doctors have mixed opinions about this, but most agree the ECG is (incomplete, but) pretty accurate. I know of one doctor that does house calls to remote areas, and uses his own watch to take people's ECG sometimes. However, wife is an ER doctor, and she's tired of people coming in 'cause their "heart rate is lower than normal".
Personally, I can't wait for the day it monitors glucose
Interesting. I'm not sure if you're saying he claimed it isn't accurate? Because I don't believe that was his intention. It seemed to me he was saying that without proper context the data were difficult to act on.
Here there is an intermediary, not the patient using it
@@abrahamoluwagbenga9807 using what?
will it even be possible tho? Is there any tech right now that can take glucose readings without breaking the skin? I know there are sensors that can connect to smartwatch via bluetooth and monitore glucose this way
It’s not about accuracy, it’s about context. Let’s say it picks up occasional intermittent runs of AF in an otherwise healthy 20 year old. Wtf do you do with that information? We don’t have research to guide us like we do in older/symptomatic populations. Is it relevant? Will it cause any harm? If we treat are we helping? Or are we just exposing to unnecessary risks of treatment for no benefit? We don’t know.
I have been using health gadgets for almost 10 years now. I've had 5 gadgets over the years.
• Fitbit Flex
• Fitbit Flex 2
• Fitbit Inspire 2
• Fitbit Inspire 3
• Vital Bracelet BE
I love having health gadgets, but I've had doctors tell me not to trust them. It can start a conversation, but it won't solve anything. I love that it is WAY more fun to get out and exercise than it use to be because anything that can lead me to better health is good. Just know it isn't perfect, anything can happen and if you know the answer, then you're probably right and just trust your gut and listen to your doctor first and foremost. Active gadgets can be great, but not a solution.
What one did u like more
It all depends on how you take the information. I'm a nurse and when I see the information I take it with my knowledge of what I have learned with my education. If I see something troubling I use it as more of a warning. You can't take maybe the 1 or 2x of high BP and panic. It's like when I have been asked by people "I have a cough. What does that mean?" Cancer! I don't know!
Educated patient who has learned to live with cardiac issues for 25+ years. I can easily feel tachy (SVT), PVCs, and atrial flutter but it's nice to have confirmation without reaching for my Kardia. Can I tell a PVC from a PAC? Nope, and unsure anyone can from a single-lead device. But again, it's an arrhythmia and having a record of the event and being able to track it over time is actually reassuring. Certainly, if I had a different personality I might be running to the ER every time my watch beeped and just get anxious waiting for the next alert. But short of getting my own halter or (heaven forbid) Medtronic giving me access to my pacemaker readings a smartwatch is my only reasonable option.
I have Afb. Before I was diagnosed, my heart rate is really irregular like 25% if the time. Then after taking medication, it notified me that it lessens, since then it only reads I have 2%.
I wouldn’t say it’s purely for entertainment, the gamification aspect of measuring your progress makes it more likely that you will stick to the activities which help you lower that number. i think that’s where the Apple Watch really shines. Also when it comes to sleeping for example, it genuinely helps me sleep better I can clearly tell if the things I’m doing to sleep better genuinely help, i modified my sleep schedule, exercise schedule, i sit in the dark an hour before going to bed, i listen to audiobooks, i wake up every day at the same time… and i know it works because i see the effect it has on my trends.
Please check the sound at 3:17
I treat my watch as a tool, if something is irregular I’ll just ask my doctor. Never soly rely on one tool.
Totally agree with Dr. Mike...for me the only real reason I have a Apple Watch is for convience, much like a regular watch, but now I can respond to a text message, maybe look up directions, and pay/monitor stuff without needing my giant phone which I cannot have on me when working out or riding my bike as it would fly out of my pocket.
The ultimate thing these smart watches can do the best at: making a phone call for an emergency (aka...old school Life Alert).
Its why I wear my smart watch, just in case I fall, crash, get stranded, etc I can make a call.
I’ve gone through this fitness tracker anxiety. Before, I used to feel great but ever since I began to constantly track my head rate, oxygen level and breaths per minute, I have been having a bit of issues breathing. So it definitely can help to sometimes ignore the trackers
Breathing issues? So it isn't just me! But I never would have thought to blame it on my devices! Makes me wonder if I should chuck the watch for a while. I like having it because I can answer my phone or shut my alarm up if it goes off at the wrong time. That would have come in real Handy last Sunday morning if I had realized that my watch was going off because I had an alarm going off. I had forgotten about the weekly reminder to get ready for coffee cart set up at church, and I was starting to return to my seat when my watch went off and I wasn't sure why.
Turn off the ones you don’t need.
I am not in great shape so just to do a light cleaning. I noticed my heartbeat go to high. Now I noticed that when I started getting more active my heartbeat went lower. So I ues my fit bit to see my progress. So I am getting healthier. It's really helping me with my bad sleep habits and I am getting better. I really feel that is good for me to get healthier
How you doing now? Very happy that you are taking care of yourself and improving, great job!
I totally agreed with him. The watch has great sensors, but it’s different from proper medical gearing. If you do an EKG on your watch, you only have one lead. Standard EKG is 12 leads, just to pinpoint one of the differences. What we really need is research and a lot of AI to help understand how can we use this data and standardize it, because if Apple does something in one generation and change it in the other, results are gone be different, not to mention the variation between all the different products that do this measures. Now, it’s more of a gimmicky/enthusiast tool than a life changer.
He brought a good point, does it matter to track as long as you’re doing the habits? I will say it’s nice to see that it’s working, like he said it’s a motivator.
Yes 100% I would be dead now if I was still taking 400mg of blood presure medicine instead of 200mg... AsI had that much becuase it was heard to treat and was likely stress but I lowered my stress and lower the blood pressure meaning if I had taken that extra 2000mG I would have died from 0BPM heart rate.
I love my garmin watch because I can track my walking / hiking. But yes, I have had to turn off a lot of the health noise tracking because it was actually increasing my anxiety. On the flip side, I have my mom to turn hers on when she is walking at the park. So if she falls asleep will be notified.
Fitness trackers are for motivation and to remember your (in) consistency over time. Very easy to misremember effort in the past, which is why tracking it allows you to better understand and improve your progress
Retired physician. I've had intermittent A.fib for over a decade. It occurs for about 24 hours or less about every 2-3 months. I always know when I have it if I'm awake. I don't ever remember it waking me up but I have had it while I'm asleep. I got the Apple Watch and it now summarizes what % of the time I'm in A.Fib every month. That, the Activity app, and (especially) the Shazam complication on my watch face is why I continue to wear one.
thanks for monitoring the audio and bringing everything back up so quick!
For a second I thought they were watching something else in speaker
3:03 what the hell happened to the audio???
I was wondering too
I like Dr. Mike’s medical input. It made sense and he has a point and obviously sees the benefits. Being healthy definitely requires a life style change and I think tech that helps motivate you is awesome. I personally love to track my workouts on my watch because it’s satisfying to close the rings. And I know that alone isn’t what is keeping me healthy but that little boost helps kickstart. My husband has been on a healthy journey and loves any type of data, so tracking everything is purely for his own pleasure and satisfaction.
I had some nightly low heart rate alerts during my peak fitness form (I’m a long distance runner). I was OK with that. What I would not be OK is to miss such an alert out of bounds of my peak fitness form.
Also I’m using ECG to communicate its results to my health check doctors. Which saves a lot of mine and their time.
Also-also, VO2Max is AFAIK one metrics that highly correlates with life longevity. So, I keep my health and fitness in check to keep this metric above average))
the health anxiety conversation is interesting to me, since I had very bad health anxiety and since I started using an Apple Watch that has pretty much been eliminated. having objective and clear measurements in front of me at any point and having active encouragement to move and exercise is incredibly reassuring.
Same
same with me helped with my health anxiety
dont you over look numbers me its that lol
I’ve used the Apple Watch for two years to track my Afib. I had an ablation and three weeks later my watch told me that I was back in Afib. I was able to send the data back to my cardiologist which created an appointment to do a a cardio version which brought me back to sinus rhythm. It’s a great tool.
How old were when you done the ablation?
Well, speaking about creatinine, maybe for heals it's a 5% top improvement, but for looks and generally appearing big, it definitely has a higher degree of an affect
2:58 what happened to the audio there?
Good question man
What happened to the sound here 3:17
Feel like something cut out or malfunctioned but a backup mic captured everything
My guess is microphones cut out and they used camera audio for those 10 seconds
I purchased an Apple Watch based on my heart problems and the pacemaker I have. I didn’t expect it to be accurate to medical grade stuff. But i shown my doctor the results of my ECG readings and said is this normal because my readings looked like a child’s angry scribble. He said that is normal for someone with your condition. It shocked me how all over the place my heart is and Apple Watch was able to show me this. I’m sure the Samsung/google version would of shown me exactly the same and I only purchased the Apple Watch because I have an iPhone but still in shock what tech can show you currently
One thing I will mention as a benefit with wearable health tech (I personally use a fitbit) is that there is a direct correlation with documenting progressive habit formation and the amount of follow through you have with habit forming. I just got done reading atomic habits, a lot of people have read this book I know, but it talks about how much more likely you are to remain consistent with developing and mantaining good habits if you are actively documenting progess. That is what the fitbit has helped me with personally, more than just being a heart rate monitor and step counter.
3:05 that audio hurt👀
I know right😂
Just bought myself a galaxy watch the other day. The unexpected benefit I've notified right away is the "Time to move" automatic feature which does work in my case. Even if I shut it down, slowly but surely it makes me stand up and move compared to spending 6-11 hours in front of my computer all day (besides the obvious rounds to the fridge, sink and toilet). Which was a surprise.
2:55 what happened with the sound there?
I spent a year in and out of a&e multiple times a week, doctors couldn't find what was wrong with me as the readings were normal when I got there, I eventually got fed up and bought a Samsung watch a kept all the readings for the cardiologist, I was able to get my Dx a year later with the help of my watch, it literally saved my life. I now lead a fairly regular life with it.
Edit: and it has saved my life since upon fainting and hitting my head when alone, it's great technology to have at fairly affordable prices.
I love my watch and it does warn me of some things with my heart health. However, in addition to my watch, my doctor told me to purchase a Kardia portable EKG that provides a cardiologist with a 6 lead EKG. This was much more helpful for my dr. and we finally "caught" my heart "in action"
More than entertainment, I really think this devices do help in saving lifes, either because you are overweight and need exercise to get a lower weight, or because you did have a Heart Attack and the doctor suggests exercise, regardless of brands or if it is a smartwatch or smartband.
Even then, there are brands like Xiaomi that integrate those devices with smart scales for weight tracking and body composition, so we may have inconsistencies today, but they really help people in motivation and getting better
I'm glad you guys covered this, and I really agree with and resonate with Mike's opinion. I myself have struggled with health anxiety which got pretty severe this last year for a number of reasons. I also bought an Apple Watch last year, and wore it pretty much every day. Having that consistent access to knowledge about my heart rate, blood oxygen level, etc. was something I thought would be comforting, but in reality it just made my anxiety worse. I haven't worn the watch in lile 5 months now, and I haven't had a severe anxiety episode since. Obviously everyone's situation is different, but I found it best not to wear the watch, as it just made my already bad health anxiety worse.
I’m exactly the same. I haven’t used my Apple Watch in years because I know that if I do then I’m going to spend ages sifting through the health app seeing if something’s wrong.
Now I just use the built-in fitness app in iOS which very loosely tracks steps+calories and I’ve been much happier and more active
I would avoid the oxygen sensor data it’s not accurate enough the ECG is really neat though if you know what your looking for
I was the same with my Apple Watch. I would look at my heart rate and get anxiety when wonder why my heart is beating low it was. So I just turned the heart monitor part off.
Apple Watch motivated me to lose 60lbs. I’d say it was worthwhile. Turned my whole life around from a fitness and wellness perspective. I’m in my late 30s and I’ve never been stronger. I went from losing the weight to now I’m actually getting ripped. Call me daddy, lol. Nothing else kept me accountable before now.
What exactly helped? Was it the motivation to close your rings every day?
@@todaywelearnedprobably because smartwatches count your steps ,give you some
Information about your heart rate and other fitness information,I also got motivated just by wearing an Apple Watch to walk more often when previously I didn’t have the desire to do that .
Ok daddy
@@todaywelearnedmy biggest motivation is seeing my resting heart rate decrease by almost 30bpm now after losing weight, VO2 max has increased dramatically, ensuring I hit at least 10k steps a day, and seeing my sleep so I can accurately adjust my life style to ensure I get an actual 8 hours. Also saw my sleep apnea improve by less wake ups and better oxygen at night
Go go daddy!
I love how the comments are filled with people who have real world experience where various safety and health features from this technology made a significant impact, while Dr. Mike is saying this will have a negative effect on society.
Yes you can ramble on about the false alerts, but its about when it works. Obviously everyone has to the be aware of the mental blockades these reading can build, but aslong as youre aware of what the watch can do and how to read it their doing just great.
Yeah I feel like we're not really "meant" to have real-time access to this data, your heart rate is regulated by the **autonomic** nervous system, meaning automatic, meaning we can't control it. Having access to data of things you can't control is just a recipe for anxiety.
However, I think there is one very useful metric - HRV. The balance between your body's relaxation response and stress response. Once you get a consistent trend of this data you can start taking lifestyle interventions to try and increase this number and thus increase the health of your nervous system. HRV biofeedback breathing is especially useful since it trains you to breathe in a way that maximizes your HRV for short sessions, then overtime your baseline HRV actually does increase.
Actually, through breathing you can control your heart rate real time?
I happen to get anxiousness and nervousness QUITE easily, and I feel my heart pounding and I get nasuea most of the times, but now with my smartwatch sometimes I get anxious, and I get even more anxious to the thought that if I take a look at my watch I'll look at a big number like 120bpm 🙃 but then, I finally look at my watch and it's like "70 bpm :)" And it feels so weird to look at a normal number when I can feel my heart beating faster than usual 😂
I had a loop recorder in my chest for 3yrs to capture data on a heart concern. Never had an incident during the 3yrs. 6 months after the loop recorder was removed, I had symptoms. Used the ECG on the Apple Watch to record the incident. Cardiologist used the data to diagnose the issue as ectopic heartbeats. Now I know what to do when it happens (which is rarely). Positive outcome for me
How is checking things like your heart rate while working out or trades over time not useful for the average person. Rearearch tells us a lot of people overestimate how much they do and these watches can give them specific data on their works and and if they're working out hard enough because of the passive nature of its data collection and it's non reliance on human memory.
The ECG in smartwatches actually help a lot! It is more accurate and easier that a holter monitor. I have seen people in ED print out an ecg report from their watch which shows Atrial Fibrillation and was found out to have a fib and was appropriately managed!
what happened to the sound at around 3:08?
I thought I was having a stroke holy hell.
Dr. Mike has some intelligent input, especially how he circumvents Marquez technological biases
2:57 what happened to the audio?
The apple watch got me to visit a doctor. Heart rate of 150+ while doing desk work isn't good. I just having cold sweats but with the watch, it told me something was wrong. Without the watch records I wouldn't been able to go further with a heart monitor through my insurance if I didn't have an records.
My mother fell last week with her bike and she wasn't alone so there were people to help her, but the Apple Watch instantly triggered the SOS fall detection. If she'd be alone and maybe knocked out by the fall something like this can save a life.
Also, a friend of mine realized they have a heart sickness since their resting heart rate was below 45 while he doesn't work out. Mine is at 45-47 while I'm in my mid 20s and work out 5 times a week. So he checked it with a doctor and he indeed has a chronical heart issue where his heart is beating to slow which also explains why he wasn't able to work out with a high BPM without having issues with oxygen etc.
So yes if you don't know what the measurements mean I'd say it's gimmick but if you actually know that i.e. your HRV is higher if your rest was good and that it's lower if you worked out too much or didn't sleep well, getting sick, etc. things like this can give you important indicators for your life.
My immediate thought is a dystopia where your insurance is directly tied to the data on your Apple watch, to the extent that you can't get insurance if you're not in the Apple Product system.
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People testing these health stuff like supplements and stuff would be a great show.
Well it's good to know that I shouldn't take some of those health things too much to heart, but I really like the sleep thing that tells me how much sleep I got because I don't always get as much as I should and it helps and keeps shooting for 8 hours. I also appreciate that I can answer my phone or silence an alarm from my SmartWatch as well if my phone is out of my reach and I don't want it to be disruptive to others.
I had to make myself stop wearing mine because of my panic disorder. My biggest trigger and symptom for/of panic attacks is sudden and severe medical anxiety about my cardiac health, and I have a plethora of physical discomforts that come on from it; making it a little more complicated than just knowing its anxiety and brushing it off (although I work on being able to do that lol). So when I become anxious and the stress raises my heart rate, and then the watch goes off giving me a warning, its like a positive feedback loop enabling my irrational and anxious thoughts. Just unfortunate.
Athlete here, for me the apple watch or any wearable is crazy good for fitness information. Especially paired with proper gym tracker
9:20 on that note, does wearing these fitness trackers cause any damage to body in the long run? Like radiation etc?
I was hoping they'd address that too. The research says no, but there are thousands of smartwatch users online complaining of pain in the wrist/arm or red bumps/abrasions in the skin under the watch.
I am definitely not one of those "anti-EMF/microwave radiation" weirdos, I always scoffed at those people who go off-grid to try and avoid it. Because radiation is everywhere - even the earth, the sun, the human body.
But I keep getting pain when I wear my Galaxy watch. I loosened the strap, no change. I take it off, the pain goes away. I put it on the opposite wrist, I get pain on that side. And when I first got it, I developed an abrasion on my wrist under the watch (where the light sensor is) that made my skin look slightly leathery and red. It did heal over time.
I would've assumed it's pinching a nerve from the design or level of tightness on the strap. But someone brought up an interesting point: "If it was just nerve pain, why aren't regular watches causing these issues?" 🧐
This needs to be looked into a little more closely.
I am using a Fitbit but only for counting steps, track time in the gym and heart rate during workout and calculate calories burned and the notifications for my calendar. The other stuff just came with it.
It's strange that they're so focused on specifically the health tracking features, when most people are focused on other things - fall detection, emergency calling, location tracking, etc. The Watch does a ton more things than just gamifying your health statistics.
As a cognitive behavioural therapist i can 2nd what this Dr is saying of how these devices can feed into health anxiety
Marques wanted this conversation to be about Apple so bad he had to force it at the beginning lmao
It’s so cool that you actually invited Dr. Mike The MVP
When i was in early 20s (a few years ago) i went to Vegas and was very hung over on the plane ride home. I was feeling very anxious and didn’t know if i could make it through the plane ride. Got on the plane and was feeling okay talking to my neighbor. My Apple Watch told me my heart rate is way too high and i should calm down, and this was mid take off. I will tell you that did not make me feel better and i started to freak out more. Ended up being fine but it spooked me more
Ny fitbit ECG detected afib, so i made an appointment with the doctor even though i didn't have any serious symptoms. and he confirmed it and started the therapy process. So if that means i won't get a stroke in the near future, i say it was very beneficial!
the irony is that i bought the thing because i wanted to get more serious with exercise, which is now put on hold while this is going on...
I don’t have an Apple Watch, but I use the walking app in my iPhone, it’s great for tracking speed and distance, but I honestly use it to brag with my friends 😂
Same here
I use my older Garmin forerunner 35 watch as a way of gamifying exercising/fitness and habit building but never think that the HR is accurate (it sometimes measure a heart beat when I'm not wearing it).....
I don't use my health gadget (an older Fitbit) for too much, but I've found that it helps me lose weight. Coordinating calorie counting with the gadget/app estimate of my calorie usage based on heart rate/activity has been really helpful.
I don't know if the calorie usage estimate is correct, but it has been correct *enough* to be useful and encourage me.
I would say that in terms of using gear as motivation, fitness watches are better then other gear in that you can also track your progress, and you can also get the satisfaction of checking things off. So you get continual motivation from the same product by getting things done and by looking at your history. That’s unique to software gear and so in a way, it’s like buying new gear continually.
The truth is the watch is paired with the Health app. So you can give doctor history.
Because as it now you meet a new doctor how many metrics does he have to measure you other then your own perception.
If you have data you have both your own perceptions and data. How much a patient move, heath rate and so on the better, doctors are sometimes flying blind because patient sometimes can’t tell you anything about them.
2:58 what happened to the mic
I have found it to be an extra piece of motivation in the early stages of a new exercise routine, when it is hardest to keep it up. At least for me, my resting heart rate decreases way before any noticeable physical changes.
That's great information and more people need to hear this. I had a watch for half a year and while it was fun at the beginning, I eventually sold it again. I just didn't get any valueable or actionable information out of it. It just proved things I already knew, like alcohol having a bad effect on my sleep and HRV. If your sleep is really messed up, it's very bad at catching that accurately, especially the time you sleep in and wake up, and if your sleep is good, there's not much benefit of measuring it. Other than that, it was mostly a waste of my money, time and energy, sometimes leading to unnecessary obsession, worry, paralysis and stress. I now do a quarterly health assessment where I measure my blood pressure, fasted blood sugar and other parameters.
I suffer from very bad sleep habits, I can't get to bet on time and I can't get up on time either. I know, I know, this is a purely discipline issue. I even went to a therapist who told me that I can solve this by waking up at certain times every day. So I bought a fitbit watch and it kind of helps... that vibration on my wrist is annoying enough to get me out of bed. Plus I can agree that the watch really does wake me up when my sleep is in the lightest stage, so it is easier in mornings... And also I don't want to mess up my sleep stats so I just drag myself out of bed no matter how late I fell asleep.
i have adhd and whenever I take my meds for it (adderall), I always get heart rate alerts. makes the feature kind of useless but I hope I don’t miss anything because I’m just ignoring these alerts lol
0:00-1:20 Marques hit it right on the nail 📌. I feel that way ALL THE TIME when it comes to features. Perfectly said.
What people need to think about is broader information with the heart rate monitor.
My heart rate was always low (60-70) bpm...no big deal
But paired with sudden weight gain, always fatigued and cold
Its time to go to the doctor
The joke at the end made me spit out my water... my bar for jokes is as low as ChatGPT's lol
I definitely feel that my wearable is more entertainment than usefull - mainly because I don't have a health problem that needs tracking and I'm happy to just keep my BMI below the obesity level. I consistently get 5 hours or less sleep but there's not a whole lot to do about that so having that information logged isn't helping.
The most interesting data I've gathered so far is the gigantic difference in physical effort different jobs have.
I'm currently re-educating myself to get a desk job and in the meantime I've got a part time job driving a truck and packing goods in a warehouse - 8 hours of standing up but mostly standing still. First semester I gained weight at an alarming rate and got a cheap Mibro fit watch, struggling to close circles and whatnot.
Over the summer I went back to my old job as a cleaning lady for that sweet full-time vacation cover cash flow. *Suddenly I was doing 1.5 weeks worth of exercise every. single. day.* No shit I gained weight when I went sedentary, for 7 years I had to cram myself full of calories just to get through the day and I hadn't changed those habits anywhere near enough for my activity levels.
These days I do not even bother logging my workouts in the watch, I just do my 30 minutes of daily exercise and try to walk more often when the opportunity arise. The watch is more useful as an alarm clock, because at work I need to be alerted 5 minutes in advance that my break is coming up so I can park the truck and clock out.
I have been thinking of getting a Fitbit charge 6 but don't want it to monitor my sleep because I have insomnia and know I sleep badly. I don't want a watch making me feel worse because I know I have something tracking my sleep that could tell me I get very little decent sleep. I assume I would just take it off at night. I am really after something that will tell me how far I walked this month, what my heart rate was during weight training and that sort of thing. Ideally I would be able to have an analogue looking face on it when I just want to see the time.
I think fitibt now charges a monthly fee for you to see all your sleep tracking data. If you want to avoid it, you might be able to get a fitbit and just not subscribe?
This is why I deactivated regular heart rate detection. I was feeling great then suddenly I had this notification I was having high heart rates. I was feeling fine but then I started having panic attacks because of the watch.
My heart was beating in an afib pattern and the Apple Watch kept pinging me. I didn’t believe it for two day as I’m in my twenties, but I ended up going to the ER and they got my heartbeat back to regular. I would have never known without the watch.
Very informative video. Big thanks for putting it out there.
Being a person that has heart issues…. Having the Apple Watch, I’ve been able to track and monitor if or when it happens. I find it a useful tool so that I can be more mindful about it.
Dr Mike on Waveform? I love this.
I got an Apple Watch and it gave me that initial boost to start exercising. I am now running a marathon each year. It started with the Apple Watch and closing my rings.
My watch alerted me to afib & I got into see my cardiologist quickly that week & confirmed it. I got a cardio inversion a week later to fix it.
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Interesting take. Mixed feelings. When I started tracking my heart rate through a chest strap and it got high while jogging or working out, a fitness app (back in the day) alerted me and also my fitness trainier told me to go see the doctor. The doctor then took a ECG under load and said "don't worry about numbers, you're fine".
I also would feel a little anxious, If I got a notification from the apple watch, that my heart rate is too low.
I'm totally with him in that respect. (same goes for creatine and stuff. If you don't eat well and train hard, start doing that first.)
But then I track my hiking tours with komoot all the time and it gives me the extra bit of motivation I really need on these activities. I love seeing what I achieved.
I wonder If the apple watch ultra would is the right device for me.
Better than the information from the watch are apps like Strava or Garmin Connect, which give more information and get you motivated with friends who share the same sports. I prefer data from my Garmin bike computer than from my Samsung Watch, The bike computer has better GPS tracking, better heart rate sensor and additional sensors for pedal rpm and speed.
Yep. At no point they question the motivational aspect of fitness devices, just the health information aspect of them.
These devices are generally great! My Apple Watch has gotten me into a very active lifestyle where I am always moving and stadning up trying to close the rings. It also helps me track my workouts (especially runs) super easily.
Y'know if healthcare were free people would be more incentivized to go to the doctor when they're not feeling well, rather than waiting on tech to tell you when it's pivotal that you go to the dr.
Way more beneficial to society when those two things exist together.
The opposite problem was pointed out by another commenter. His ER nurse wife is tired of people coming in all worried because their heart rate is up, or something simple like that.
This healthcare/tech crossover is my jam. Can’t believe it took me this long to come across it 😮
You all keep lumping in VO2 Max with A-fib detection and other alerts related to health problems. Nobody is going to the doctor because of what their watch tells them about their VO2 Max. It might not match the VO2 Max you get in a lab, but you're Garmin uses that number (you can think of it as a proprietary fitness score from the watch manufacturer rather than true VO2 Max if you like) to tailor your workouts and assess the effectiveness of your training, not to tell you about health problems.
Wow Dr. Mike is spot on! I have type 2 diabetes and every time I eat I get a high heart rate notification on my Apple Watch and it causes me more stress and anxious state. It makes me not want to eat and increases my heart rate iconically
"He has SVT, which is a type of fast heat rate that exists." Thanks for really clarifying that doc.
He does a really good job at explanation, I like this Dr!
this is eye opening for someone who’s been thinking about getting their first apple watch, now i’m having doubts haha
Ah still consider getting it. It’s a great product regardless. I use it at work for break times, logistic logging and music playing
My Apple Watch heart notifications only go off when I'm playing Dark Souls.
Thanks for the review with the doctor ❤