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Bluetti AC180 - Anker C1000 - EcoFlow Delta 2 - HEAD TO HEAD! Which one WINS?!
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2024
- 1st Place Winner: You can purchase the Bluetti AC180 HERE:
Amazon: amzn.to/3XUae9J Discount code 5% off - USKOL5OFF (ends on 7/31)
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2nd Place: You can purchase the EcoFlow Delta 2 HERE:
Amazon: amzn.to/3zvahP9
EcoFlow's Website: shrsl.com/4ljfv
3rd Place: You can purchase the Anker C1000 HERE:
Amazon: amzn.to/3VUsaOS
Anker's Website: shrsl.com/4ljfx
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These are the BEST prices of the season, make sure you act now if you are on the fence about buying one of these units!
1st Place Winner: You can purchase the Bluetti AC180 HERE:
Amazon: amzn.to/3XUae9J
Bluetti's Website: shrsl.com/4ljfr
2nd Place: You can purchase the EcoFlow Delta 2 HERE:
Amazon: amzn.to/3zvahP9
EcoFlow's Website: shrsl.com/4ljfv
3rd Place: You can purchase the Anker C1000 HERE:
Amazon: amzn.to/3VUsaOS
Anker's Website: shrsl.com/4ljfx
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Thanks for this very helpful comparison.
Was looking to possibly buy my sister one of these for Florida living, for use during a power outage. this is one of the best side by sides I have seen, great job thanks
She's going to love it. No Brainerd setup & maintenance. I use 1 for my photo PC & monitor, while the other AC180 backs up our modem, routers, & peripherals.
@@knorrissirronk8665 nice, and possibly fridge for short period of time.
@scotth9984 YES! We have a BougeRV powered fridge/freezer and Bluetti solar panels to keep the solar units topped-off until the night.
Enjoy the videos. Very thorough comparisons. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Perfect timing! I have the AC180 and the Delta2, comparing them alongside the Anker is excellent. It confirms my decision to add another AC180 to my stable, Thank you.
Bluetti has been doing a really good job with making their power stations quiet.
Thank you Jason for this very good/excellent comparison video.
Really nice overview. Going with the BLUETTI
That's why I own 2 AC180s.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Good to hear! What do you use your units for?
I own 3 AC 180’s. One serves as a UPS for Audio-Video entertainment equipment, another as a UPS for computer equipment, and the third one as UPS backup power for our outside full size fridge and a Dometic dual zone fridge/freezer.
I've been going back and forth between the Bluetti and the EcoFlow and your explanation made it so clear. I'm not at all tech savvy but I understood your info much better than other videos I've watched. Thanks
Great review! Very helpful. Thank you!
Have both the AC180 and the Delta 2 which i got bundled with the alternator charger. Bluetti also has the AC200MAX for $1099, which is a very good deal also. It's a great time to be in the market for one of these power stations. I remember over two years ago paying $599 for my Bluetti EB70! Great review and summary of all the features in one nice chart!
Have you looked at the EB70 recently, it's still super expensive @ $370. I feel bad for anyone that buys that model now with that price when with $100 more you can get so much more!
@@Jasonoid I have a feeling, that the EB70 was even louder 😂
Although I've already bought my Delta 2 max, I'm still curious, so thanks for content like this. people are starting to come to me looking for a direction and i stay curious.
Exactly the comparison i have been looking for - thank you
Glad to see my timing was good. These prices are the best of the year so make sure to take advantage.
Great video comparison. Nice to see someone doing one. I know I like my ac180. I won mine, so I got really lucky on that one.
That's AWESOME!
Thanks for the video. I got a Bluetti AC180 for a sump pump backup. Your video confirms that it was a good choice. The AC180 is also light years ahead of the lead acid sump pump backup options currently on the market.
If the A.C. output of the Bluetti turns off (perhaps due to overload or running out of battery) will it turn back on automatically? (i.e. retry the heavy load or when the input A.C. returns) My Delta 2 Max will not, and that is really annoying behavior for a UPS!
Jason, as always you did a great job of digging down into the features of all three of these units. I perused your grading sheet after watching your livestream video and I came up with an idea for a future project. It seems none of the power stations that you reviewed in the 500-1000 WH range really checked all the boxes (and I agree they should). So, maybe you can search for an affordable power station that scores higher on your grading system in the middle, camping-sweet-spot range of 500 to 1000 WH. By now the manufacturers surely must have read the memo!
Timely review. I'm hooked on the anker c1000 however. Appreciate the video.
I love how compact the C1000 is. It also has the best solar input out of these three!
@@JasonoidI bought the 200 watt panel to go with. Since it’s prime day I’m thinking of adding a second 200 watt panel.
Think it’s worth it? Thanks.
@@butchie2752 having 400 watts of solar is great for this size of power station. You can never have enough solar.
@@Jasonoid that’s what I thought too. Btw instead of their extender, for the same price, I bought a separate sine wave inverter a 100 amp lpo
Battery, and a charger. I figured that in a long term grid down I’d have separate system if the Anker broke. They acknowledged I could charge the Anker with this and the inverter. A little more bulky but…Thanks for your prompt reply.
I love my ac180. Great to see how it compared to other similarly priced power stations.
Fantastic review, thank you so much. The only thing I'd add... the Bluetti does come in around 10lbs heavier than the other two, so it really comes down to your mobility requirements, whether the incremental performance is worth the additional weight. Thanks again, super helpful.
Thank you for that input. Being older with a few mobility/stamina issues...weight of the products is a deciding factor for me.
Physical size & weight are also a considerations for me. Excellent comparison, thanks.
That's another great way to compare these. They are fairly similar but the Anker C1000 is the most compact model.
Thanks for the in depth comparison, right up my alley. AC180 is my 1st power station, 1 of possibly 2 intended for my minivan camper "build" (not used yet). The quieter fan is a plus. I'd rather have 1 or 2 of this size that I can lift more easily for charging than a 55-60 lb. beast. Prices are incredible. If one misses the sale, waiting for the next one seems a wise choice.
thanks for the test, not surprising bluetti comes out on top. still waiting for alternator charging though.
I have (2) of the Bluetti AC180s and love them. But I seem to recall that of the 3, the AC180 was the only one that failed your UPS test during one of your retries in your original AC180 review. (I could be wrong...) considering how low you measured the cutover time to be, do you have any ideas for why that might have been? Most importantly, THANK YOU for continuing to do these Solar station reviews, Jason!
Jason I watch a few tech channels your the best,I would go with the Bluetti,I have the EB 150 and ac200p they have never let me down
Thank you! That means a lot!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Loved this comparison. I have been thinking I needed a medium size unit and was leaning towards the Bluetti or EcoFlow. My next step was to go back you your old videos to ensure I had not forgotten anything, then this video popped up. This was very concise and hit the points I needed reminders on. So, perfect timing on this video. I was already leaning towards Bluetti and after watching, I am convinced. BTW, I love EcoFlow power stations, but in this situation, Bluetti wins. Thanks Jason. Now I need to decide if a medium is big enough or do I move up to the AC200L, but then I would need to compare it to the Delta 2 Max. Hahaha. I am stuck in a vicious cycle.
That's quite the cycle to be stuck in! I will say right now is when the prices are lowest for the entire year so if you want one of these, now is the time to buy.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for the advice. Hopefully I will have an AC200L or AC180 in a week or so.
Great Video, I went with the ecoflow due to the size and weight as im using it in my caravan
That's why I'm here too. Weight and size for use in my van.
Thanks for posting the Amazon discount code. That just gave me another $60 off of the Prime Day price!!!
This is a really good comparison , I bought a delta 2 because eventually I’m gonna get me a wave 2 air conditioner
Great analysis. I have two Delta 2's with extra batteries. For trips to the cabin, they serve me well. Amazon has the Delta 2 for $499 now!
That's an amazing price! They are really making these more competitive each day.
thank you!
I have the AC180, nice unit for mid size. I also have a Delta 2 Max and they seem to have less fan noise than the Delta 2
The Delta 2 Max has upgraded fans that are much more quiet than the Delta 2. The Delta 2 launched first and they quickly realized how much people hate loud fans. Once they launched the Delta 2 Max they were able to put better fans in it.
I have the delta 2 max and love it! just bought an additional battery for it.
All 3 of these are nice systems.
We like the Bluetti AC180 the most of these 3 power stations :)
P.S. Bluetti has really nice power stations and has really upped their game over the last couple of years :)
Hi great chart & comparison layout 👍👍. 🐝🌞
Thanks so much! 😊
@@Jasonoid Hi never a problem saying thank you for your work 👍🐝🌞
I bought the Delta 2 @ Amazon currently for $499 total $535 out the door. Plan to expand the capability with the Delta 2 Max for a total of 3kw
Thanks! really helpfull...one thing I would add to my personal choise; Wifi and/or bluetooth. The Bluetti doesnt have Wifi, so no app control remotely.
That's another thing to consider! Thanks for bringing that up.
I agree that the Bluetti is the clear winner based on your testing criteria, the EcoFlow unit battery expansion can connect to the 2KWh battery giving it a max capacity of 3KWh. That makes the EcoFlow option a lot more attractive in this class of units for a consumer like me.
Nice to see I bought the winner. Honestly haven't put it to a test yet. That will come in the fall when I'm helping at some outdoor events.
SUPER helpful! would be curious to see which of these runs power tools the longest for remote projects
The most battery capacity will give you the longest runtime 👍
What up Doe Dr J'
This is a very informative and detailed comparison of the top midsized power station.
Can you give us a little info about warranties and customer service?
(half a point)😅
Great vid👍🏻
I’ve always used ecoflow and this comparison doesn’t really change my mind at all. I’ve had zero issues with my ecoflow
The UPS mode numbers are interesting. In North America you just need 16.6 ms to be within one tick, and 33.3ms for two ticks. Most computer power supplies won’t have a problem with missing two blinks unless under very heavy load.
During my testing the EcoFlow and Anker systems shut off my desktop workstation 2 or three times each. It's hard to record the cutover time as it's so fast my oscilliscope doesn't catch it all the time. I never had an issue with the Bluetti shutting off my desktop. The lower the time the better.
@@Jasonoid perfect example - thank you! I use a Ecoflow River 2 as a UPS for my home server and infrastructure, never fails. But I have read the Deltas are slower to switch over. Thanks for this detailed review!
Dang that ac180 has always caught my eye! But I like the form factor of the Anker but Anker seems to still be finding their way a bit with power stations. Just a feeling I get.
That ac180 would be sweet in my living room zone since it has wifi now.
The Anker is pretty small, but I think those fans would drive you nuts.
Ahh dang. You right! Lol. Good call
So is there any way to measure internal watt usage? I'm pretty sure the Bluetti uses 15 watts by just turning on. So if my 12v refrigerator used 50 watts the Bluetti would actually be using 65 watts. Just something to think about. Supposedly the Jackery has no internal watt usage. I know I know you didn't test the Jackery but I just thought I would bring internal watt usage into your score sheet. If it can be measured or discovered somehow.
Just bought the Delta 2, on sale for prime day for less than $600
I love the compact size of Anker
There is a huge difference in the apps between the Anker and the Ecoflow. The Ecoflow will let you set a "Backup Reserve" limit. When set, it will only let you draw Solar, and then when it hits the reserve will start drawing from grid. At that point, for a while, it draws both AC and solar. I would love to know if the Bluetti has such a control in the app.
Also if you like a lot of AC outlets, the Anker has six 3 prong plugs. The Ecoflow has 6 AC but only 2 are 3 prong, the others are 2 prong.
The Ecoflow app is probably the best, but the other two apps also work very well. When compared to 'budget power stations' these apps are WAY better!
The Ecoflow wins for me due to the expansion ability plus the amazing Alternator charger that allows you to fast charge while driving. I can charge my Delta 2 in about an hour or so of driving compared to 10 hours on the car adapter. No need for solar panels anymore.
Is there a difference in terms of ease of use between the 3 brands? Which is the easiest for those who are new to solar generators?
I have quite a few ecoflow power stations but for this mid tier I'd go with the anker.
You can use a Delta 2 Max battery with the delta 2 for ~3kWhs total
I like how the EcoFlow power stations have all the devices they are compatible with with the XT150 port!
Love the comparison so would that make the ac180p a better buy still?
I guess it depends on how much you are spending on that larger battery in the AC180p.
The Ecoflow Alternator charger is a game changer for those on the move..
Yeah, I always felt like Bluetti was the winner in this category of battery stations outside of portability.
After a rough start with Eco Flow Delta 2 not 12v charging all is fixed by returning to Eco Flow. It was annoying but all fixed and has been a great product for van life. For me I wish I went bigger to Delta Max 2.
It's always nice to have the larger battery capacity. Have you seen the new EcoFlow car charger? That would allow you to charge your Delta 2 really quickly if needed.
@@Jasonoid Amen! What a car charger. I also saw your video comparing it to the competition. I currently run two 100 watt panels in California. Honestly that keeps me topped off most days. Only issue is if I cook one meal and heat one water kettle battery Delta 2 is empty. Thank you for all your work. I first saw your DIY build video years ago.
I have an AC180 and just received a c1000. Something that wasn't discussed here, was the size/weight since these are designed as portable power stations.
Anker is noticeably lighter and a smaller footprint. I never seen the ecoflow in person to compare to.
Ecoflow Delta 2 supports also the Delta 2 Max extra smart battery with 2.048 Wh for a total of 3.072 Wh.
Great comparison video! I really liked this video with the head to head format. Super Helpful!
I prefer Ecoflow, I 've had a fantastic experience with them.
They all do the same job with similar capacities and inverter sizes. It would come down to which one has best reliability and customer support?
This was a great comparison !!! ... I will give an extra two points to the Anker for the very handy light bar and the compact size.
Those are nice features too! The C1000 is definitely the smallest option.
It's good to see all these competitive prices! Hmmmmmmm, I'd probably go with the EcoFlow Delta 2 since it's compatible with their new alternator charger..... I just wish they would change out those FANS! Arrrggghhh they are so loud!
Pecron has an alternator charger that is 500w vs 800w, cheaper, and compatible with any battery.
Yeah, those two units are an apple to oranges comparison. The Ecoflow is premium and does tons of other stuff like the bidirectional charging and boost your starter battery if it's dead. The Pecron is just for charging power stations. They both have their use cases.
Enjoyed this comment, have the AC180 but definitely interested in learning about the alternator charger topic for my minivan build, may add 1 more power station and this gives pause to learn more before purchase.
I like the extra power and layout of the Bluetti, but the EcoFlow seems to have a better reliability reputation….. at least that’s the impression I get reading various forums.
That's a big thing when looking at the cost factor. Some brands are less reliable electronically and even within those brands some specific models have more common failures. Pays to do some research on owner forums and reviews from multiple sources. For any electronics I find that the reviews found on the manufacturer websites or the jungle site have most people with little to no experience providing 5 star reviews with very little time of ownership promoting something as a great product when its not really been put through real world usage.
Thanks
No problem. What would you choose?
@@Jasonoid Since I have a smaller Bluetti already, probably that.
I think you owe the Anker three points. 1) Does the unit have a light? 2) Does that light have various brightness levels? 3) Dose that light have an S.O.S. mode?
Jokes aside, great review. This is great for first time buyers. I think those who have invested in a particular will stay with that brand, regardless of performance results.
Amen brotha 🤣👍 fan boys will be fan boys haha
Excellent video!! thank you! I have bluetti and ecoflow. I favor ecoflows app... able to modify more settings... car... 4, 6, 8a. AC charging.... 200 to 900w by 50w increments for the river 2 pro. high and low - charge and discharge limits. And other options. Bluetti does have a couple of options for rate of recharge but not nearly as versatile as ecoflow. Bluetti has a variable upper charge limit (I believe) but not a lower limit. So.... ecoflow definitely get a big point for app options.... which is pretty important.. at least to me. I hope bluetti catches up on this as I do prefer bluetti products. Also, seems like ecoflow has more trouble with installing upgrades on their units.. and seem to require "recalibration" more often than bluetti. So ...on my "list" bluetti gets a point. Excellent video!!
Great feedback! Thank you for breaking all that information down.
The EcoFlow Delta 2 can be had for under $500 out the door on Amazon right now!
The price war is real! Glad to see them fighting for the consumer's purchase! Thanks for sharing 👍
$411 + taxes was $449.20 out the door! I've been watching videos for 6 months now to decide. This fell in my budget and I'm so happy.
Hi Jason! I have a question. I have 2 renogy panels mounted on top of my van and they are plugged into my Jackery 1500 explorer power station…so can I leave the cable plugged into the Jackery continuously…and/should I have a circuit breaker if I can? AND if I need a circuit breaker how would this work into the input of my Jackery? Thanks…really appreciate your channel 😊
The Delta 2 can charge from AC at up to 1500 Watts… you just go into the app to adjust it. And as others have pointed out, it is compatible with the Delta 2 Max extra battery for a total capacity of 3072 Wh. And their ecosystem includes the generator and air conditioner which are compatible and work with the Delta 2.
With one of the Labs features, it can be setup to automatically power on when it receives solar or AC power after the battery has been depleted. That can be very useful for some people. Worth mentioning.
Latest version of the firmware dropped it down from 1500 to 1200 watts. When it first came out it supported 1500 watts. Not anymore 😔
@@Jasonoid I'm on the latest firmware and I charged mine at 1500 Watts just before I made this post to make sure I wasn't imagining things. The option is still very much there.
@@djp_video you got the C1000X?
Aparently there are two models, the C1000 and the C1000X.
There are two differences between the Anker SOLIX C1000 and the C1000X:
The SOLIX C1000X has an AC input capacity of 1300W while the SOLIX C1000 has an AC input capacity of 1000W.
The SOLIX C1000X comes in a sleeker dark color compared to the SOLIX C1000.
@@Jasonoid It sounds like you're referring to the Anker. I'm speaking of the Ecoflow. In the app you can select the AC charge rate anywhere from 200 W to 1500 W. It defaults to 1200 W, but you can select any value you'd like in multiples of 100.
Jason, you made a convert out of me with this video. I've been a fan of EcoFlow for years simply because of their Customer Service especially recently when they replaced 3 units after I had been using them for over 2 years and they paid for shipping both ways. It is slow going through the process but in the end they stand behind their product. After seeing the video and how I use my power banks I see that the Bluetti is clearly the better choice for me. I hope you continue to do this type of comparison videos with different capacity models. Since I do not have experience with Bluetti, do you know how their Customer Support department rates? Do they pay for shipping both ways like EcoFlow does? Great, great, great video. Thank you for sharing with us.
They provided a shipping label when I had an issue with my EB3A, but thats a small model. I'm not sure what the case would be on a larger power station. I haven't heard anyone tell me they had to pay shipping.
@@Jasonoid The units I sent were 2 delta max 2000 and a river pro. Best part was they gave me an extension battery for my river pro for my inconvenience free of charge too.
@@shelley131 I don't think Bluetti would do that, wow! (the extra battery) 😲
I think it's hard to say one brand is the 'best' and I don't chose favorites.
This video wasn't trying to prove any brand is better or worse than the others, it was just fun to see how these products stacked up in an in depth comparison. Just choose the product that fits you best!
I got the Anker C1000 a couple weeks ago. If I had seen this video first, I might have gone with the Bluetti AC180 simply because it cost less per Watt-Hour, but I do not regret my Anker purchase. Most of the Anker's negatives highlighted in the video - fan noise, lack of simultaneous AC and solar charging, slightly lower 12VDC output - are not that important to me for my envisioned use cases.
The Anker C1000 is still an excellent choice. I like the small form factor and the benefit of the added 100 watts of extra solar charging! When the units are all so close in comparison I really have to dig down and find differences.
I want one of these primarily for my sump pump… which is max 7.8amps 115v. I figure the portability makes these a better choice than a classic inverter /marine battery backup setup. Any reasons not go with one these power stations for a sump pump?
The only reason I know of, is if the A.C. output turns off (temporary overload or battery runs out) will it automatically turn back on? (to retry the overload or when the input A.C. is restored) Many, such as my Delta 2 Max, will not. That makes it unsuitable for unattended backup IMO.
Do any of these units have power surge protection? If you have it hooked up to a refrigerator for backup case the power goes out.
The Delta 2 can accept a 2kw battery for 3kw capacity - the expansion battery for the Delta 2 Max is also supported on the Delta 2.
I'm pretty sure the Delta 2 can dual charge. It should be a setting in the app as it is for the 2 Max.
I tested for this video, the Delta 2 cannot dual charge.
But which one has the least amount of interference on an AM radio.. ha kidding.. great video.. any chance of a big 3 vs lil 3 ie allpowers 1500, oupes doesn't really make one that fits in this range but.. or pecron. I got an allpowers 1500 on sale for 400.. for that price it's my choice.. but yeah Bluetti would be my second.
Great vid thank you
Well done. There are more than 20 power station (SoGen) to compare at many styles and sizes. The most valuable matrix is the price per watt hour. Doing the math, dollars / watt hours will keep us from over paying no matter the specs or brand. Again, well done.
In my opinion you have to choose a balance between price vs performance. The cheapest units (lowest price per watt hour) usually have software bugs, hardware shortcuts, and less features. The saying 'you get what you pay for' is mostly true on these. It's better to go with a model in the middle of the mix, then youre not paying for a premium price, but you don't have issues with junk models.
None of these in the video are considered 'cheap or budget' models.
I wish you have a way to compare the max in-rush / surge current limit, i.e. can I use it to power up a 12v tire air pump.. or can I use it to power up a laser printer..etc
These units won't do a 12v air compressor, you need over 150 watts DC output for that. All of these should handle a laser printer just fine.
That’s quite the spread in points considering they are so similar.
The Delta/Delta 2 are EF low end model. I almost wouldn’t want to recommend it at all. The Max 2 is the perfect size
The Delta 2 Max is pretty awesome! It's pretty heavy to move around though!
You’re videos have been super helpful. I’m trying to get an idea of how I can live in my car while creating travel content. Charging FPV drones, camera gear, laptops and stuff. I think the AC180 seems perfect but if you have any input on solar panels I should pair it with, or should I go for something smaller or bigger?
Have you thought about flexible panels on your car roof? I think they install fairly easy and these ones are affordable and do really well in partial shading: ua-cam.com/video/36k9_ToG5Vo/v-deo.html
@@JasonoidI think that is what I will go with! I could maybe mount Rigid panels because I have a roof rack on my Chevy Traverse? Would you say the AC180 is overkill or just right for the things I’ll be charging
I think the AC180 is a great size for what you need. Also, check out this video where I attached flex panels to an extruded aluminum frame, you could do the same with those smaller panels on your roof:
ua-cam.com/video/LBel4dpbKqw/v-deo.html
@@Jasonoidok thanks so much! I will check this video out! 😊
@@Jasonoid I just found some Jinko Solar panels 400W 1500V on marketplace near me for $150 so I’m definitely going to research these a bit. Not sure if you’ve had any experience with them?
I believe you did Anker a disservice choosing the C1000 instead of the f1200 or f1500 . Which competes well with the bluetti AC180 . The eco flow delta 2 is now showing its age 😢, still some fight left though 😅.
When will your review of the Pecron E3600LFP come out? The pre-oder price ($1599) is pretty good, but I'd like to see your review before purchasing.
I'm aiming for July 19th. So far it's been very good in testing. Fans are pretty quiet, solar is excellent, inverter power and DC output works as advertised. Rated capacity is near 90% on both DC and AC output.
@Jasonoid Thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to your in-depth review. Keep up the great work.
I've found my ecoflow delta 2 ups cutover time is like 80% fast enough for computers. I use an egpu and laptop on my TV on it. However when it cuts over to AC as the battery gets low sometimes the GPU drops (and blows up windows).
When testing with my desktop computer with a load running, the D2 killed the PC probably 3 out of the 6 times I tested. It will work sometimes, but it's not fast enough to be reliable.
I already have a Bluetti EB3A which I like very much as it is very portable. I'm going to get an AC180 next as I think it is the best bang for the buck. The only thing missing is an expansion plug. Don't know why they decided not to put one since all the competing brands have it in this category. They did come out with the AC180T with swappable batteries, but it is heavier and more expensive. Still, looking at how an expansion battery cost as much as the power station, I prefer buying a second AC180 so you have better flexibility to run stuff around the house and not use extension cords. If you add the Delta 2 + Delta 2 max expansion battery price, you can almost get 3x AC180. You also have the option to use a 12v 100ah lifepo4 battery with a voltage booster to take advantage of the solar port and put in 500w into the power station. Sure it is not the same as having a dedicated expansion battery, but it is much cheaper in price.
All good thoughts here. You'll have to decide what option is the best for you.
European prices are much higher than US ones :( It's Prime Day sale now and we have €649 offer for Anker C1000 (with ultrafast charging mode), €699 for Bluetti AC180 and €699 for Ecoflow Delta 2. Which one would you choose with these prices and why?
Love the comparison reviews! As objectively tempting as this Bluetti is, I'm hesitant because, in addition to the many customer service complaints on the web (the rate and legitimacy of which I do not know), their website has grammatical errors and odd phrasing. I get that this may be translation errors, but to me it raises concerns about attention to detail and commitment to the US Market. Am I overthinking this?
These are all from Chinese companies and they each have their support horror stories. Bluetti support has improved over the last year, not perfect yet though.
If you compare the power efficiency, Anker comes out on top. Also, I don’t understand why would you do dual charging? If AC is there, you always go for that isn’t it?
Starting to think Ecoflow's pricing is riding off their name from a few years back when they were toward the top of the heap. Now that the rest of the pack has caught up, their prices seem relatively high and no longer justified.
The EcoFlow Delta 2 dropped to only $499 this morning! It's a price war!
amzn.to/4eQn1zY
If there are point for extra ussage, be more fair and ecoflow shloud be mentioned about home power system compatibility. As it is only from those 3 where u can add panels, smartplug+control unit and it can go full automode. Plug it into home electricity net, and when smartplug see device taking power that amount will be pushed into net from station. That allows to reduce bills, and from those 3 i see only ecoflow having a,plugandplay set.
The Delta 2 is not compatible with the Ecoflow smart panel so it doesn't work with their home backup system.
@@Jasonoid delta2 (can be with extra batt too)+ EcoFlow PowerStream + solarpanels + smartplugs. Small system, not big wall thing (aka balcony power)
6:15 Why didn't you test the Anker AC charging speed in the "Ultra Fast Charging" charging setting???
That setting seems to be removed with the latest firmware update. I didn't see it like I had before.
@@Jasonoid I had to go back and find it on the main screen of my app (ver 2.6.0) and device firmware (ver 1.4.3) but I can't enable it right this moment because I'm fully charged already.
It's under "AC Input" on main screen of the app
I think you should have included their weight. Portability is also a consideration in choosing a portable generator
They are all within 10 lbs of each other.
@@Jasonoid 10 lbs is a lot. I agree that it would've been nice to consider weight.
I would have liked to see the time to full charge as ecoflow claims to be the fastest
They will all charge to full within 5 to 10 minutes of each other since they charge at a 1C rate. (1000w input / 1000wh battery)
What about customer service as a purchase factor?
Only the sound level determines the choice here. But you didn't include what they weigh? The brand I've been recommending for years won hands down.
I’m curious how the PECRON E1500LFP Expandable Portable Power Station 2200W 1536Wh would compare against these units.
You can compare them head to head on my power station grading sheet 👍 the Pecron has a larger inverter and larger battery. It also takes in a little more solar.
I cant get over the inefficiency of tthe Delta 2 AC inverter whem the Max is so much more efficient. I have a Delta 2 I use to power some tools in my field. I will probably use it to power lights and a transfer pump in my barn.
You'll see similar idle power usage on the D2 Max, but it doesn't effect the battery as much since the battery is twice the size. The Delta 2 has a battery half the size but still a large inverter @ 1800w vs the 2400w inverter on the D2M. In other words, the D2 has a big inverter smaller battery. The D2 Max has an inverter that matches the battery capacity.
I have the AC180. I hooked up a 12v 100ah battery to the 12v charging port. Overnight it drained the battery with no increase in the charge level of the Bluetti. I still don’t know where all that energy went.
That sure sounds like a mystery. To know what's happening I'd need to know a lot more information.
Were the AC or DC ports turned on, on the Bluetti? Even without a load, if they are on, you will bleed charge.
A power bank could have every feature but if it only has one usbc port I wouldn’t even consider it.
As of this week the ecoflow delta 2 is 499$ on amazon
Yeah, they dropped the price even more! Great price!
Picked up my 2nd Delta 2 last week for $429 plus tax from the Ecoflow website,with a $100 off coupon.Couldn't pass that price up.