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Hi! I love your videos! Have you considered doing this sort of video, but with power banks? Like the ones that are $200 or less. A lot of people can't afford the full size generators, but there are a lot of power banks that could provide people with a few days of phone charges after an emergency. After our last tornado went through, I was able to convince a few of my friends to buy power banks, but there are so many on the market it's hard to pick! Some have fold out solar panels, and it would be great to hear your view on which ones are best! Thanks, and stay safe! :)
I am currently researching these as I am ready to upgrade from my little Jackery; thank you for all the work you have put into this! My biggest concern with the Ecoflow units is the poor efficiency. I’m leaning toward the Pecron due to the cost difference from other comparable units. I would not buy another Jackery unit only because of the battery technology; they have just not advanced their technology but still want to charge the highest price. Thanks again Kris.
I am not happy with my Pecron, they have weird solar panel requirements, proprietary solar input connections, and seem just really clunky compared to the other brands I have. Look at Oupes 1800 and Oupes 1200, I have both to help run my home fridge, very easy, take all my Bluetti and Allpowers solar panels, great price, and my 1800 watt unit had a display problem and the company replaced it within days of me contacting and sending photos of the display gibberish. I also have several Bluetti EB3A units for low watt recharging or even for charging the larger Oupes unit which weighs about 32 pounds and is a problem for my chronic back problems, whereas taking several 10-pound EB3A units out to charge and then back in is far easier!
I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro that I bought after using your spreadsheet. I like it, the solar panels are heavy for me to move. I'm happy that I have it and hope to get 2 more panels and the solar panel tracker thing.
My biggest issue with using these units as preps is that all lithium battery technologies recommends storing at less than 50% charge. So, you have to choose whether to only have 50% of your stated energy available when crisis hits, or damage the batteries inside by keeping them fully charged, or use them regularly. VERY FEW people are aware of this when buying these as emergency preps.
@@wardmontgomery9259 using them for power tools at work is the exact opposite of storing them. If you have a li-ion battery from 2016 that is holding over 10% charge you will certainly receive prize money from battery manufacturers everywhere. Tool batteries, have an expected life of 300 cycles. Less than one year of daily use.
@@byrondaniels421 I know exactly why. These units are primarily designed to throw in the back of a pickup and provide power to a jobsite or similar. They are being marketed to the prepping crowd as a "set it and forget it" option.
Great Vid❗ I have an EcoFlow Delta 1300 and am using two Off Grid Trek 200 watt solar blankets as listed in the description. They are amazing. Plus they work in low light which wasn't mentioned. I did a video about using them in poor conditions and cable hook up. Off Grid Trek really helped me out after the freeze here in Texas. Customer service blew me away. I called twice with questions and both times Rene the owner answered the phone.
I have a 300 watt Enginstar but no panels lol. Could barely save for the Solar Generator. But am proud of myself that I was able to do that. 🙏 for panels. It's amazing how many demonstrations that you do! I know it's a job but ThsnknYou for your time. This is a great solar generator. Stay Safe God Bless.
Surprisingly, the Harbor Freight panels that I purchased for CHEAP- on sale, have done really well for me, now 2 years in. Running my shed & tools with them. Best advice on these, try them out right away & check their output. If you got a bad one, take it back right away-- they won't have a problem exchanging or returning it. I have 3 & they all love the Florida sunshine & 1 consistently puts out higher than it's rated for! 114- 119! It's rated 100. One is almost dead on 100, & 1 comes in at the mid 90's. 🍀 to you.
A great and honest review, certainly not nearly as "rosey" as some other reviews. I was considering this as a backup for my refrigerator, but dropped it for the EPS inconsistancies between multiple reviewers, dropping solar completely when AC is present (no dual charging), and pretty low AC efficiency when compared to other EcoFlow products. Still quite a bit of bang for the buck though and continuing the trend that the Bluetti EB3A started with a large inverter with a smaller battery. Thanks!
@@johntate5284 Thanks John, I will look into that one. I had seen it listed but wasn't sure if it was old tech or not and hadn't got around to looking at it.
I have been researching solar generators for over a year and am leaning towards the Generark (now known as Geneverse.) I am looking to the HomePower2 generator. The solar panels are all weather, it also has a 5 year warranty, their website also states that when fully charged this generator can store and hold the power for at least a year. So far this one sounds amazing and has great reviews. Have you or anyone on your channel tried this generator? Would be great to hear a personal review. Thank you for this info in today’s review, I was actually going to look into this company as I just learned of them, but with info received I’ll pass.
I got the 220 solar panel for this generator. Took me 3 days to charge it to 100% via solar and I used it to see how it charges my hybrid. Took me 3 days to charge the ECOFLOW only to charge my car up to 4 miles. (My car normally gives me anywhere from 43-53 miles of EV.)
@@betterarmed You wouldn't know unless you or someone else tried. That's why I'm sharing... It's specifically referring to a hybrid. Not for household. Which I wish he could've demonstrated in the video.
You must have had a lot of cloud or a bad angle, the math for your solar panel and this unit means it should NOT take 3 days to charge it!! Get another panel so you get closer to the max it can take, and make sure you have the right angling and decent sun days.
I purchased one of these and had problems with it out of the box. I spent almost 2 months jumping through there hoops to diagnose prior to them telling me to return. They diagnosed it as a faulty battery. I was informed that they would send me a refurbished replacement. I questioned them about this and they informed me after 30 days they won’t give a new one. So wondering what is the point having a 5 year warranty?
Hi now that I see your spreadsheet. I know I can't afford those. Thats so sad that items we will need in emergencies. Some of us can't get. I will still be watching you... have great day
I bought the Delta 1300, 1260 Wh battery. Just getting in to this. I am saving up and buying them as I can pay for them, so hopefully I can cashflow a decent system where I could run most of my systems in the event of a sustained power outage. Just ordered a EcoFlow 175 watt solar panel. Thank you for the info!
Just bought one during Amazon Prime Days for $479 and free shipping. Note, there are no returns unless it is damaged as it qualifies as "hazardous material". I sure hope I like it!
Thanks for the review. Just ordered one even though there maybe better options. I just love the 3000+ cycles. I can see this lasting me the next decade. Also the option to expand is a great draw.
@@allaboutroofing2 I haven’t had a chance to take it camping so haven’t had a chance to put it through it’s paces. It took about 4 days to get it. If you plan on serious use, I’d get something bigger. I used it to power a laptop, 2 monitors, iPad, iPhone and a small light, it gave me a run time of 5 hours from a 95% charge.
These are neat little portable devices. I jumped ahead and DIY'd an off-grid solution with 4Kw of panels, an 8Kw LF split phase inverter, and 20KwH of rack mount batteries. Not portable, but I don't have a cabin anywhere. Maybe a portable bug out EcoFlow in the future. Cheers
I just purchased this with 400 watt solar panel and Delta 2 extra battery mainly for fridge and or freezer. just under $3000. Hope I did well. I am not very tech savvy. a friend will help me to set it up.
A very nice review covering most of the features. One bit of information missing is how much power it eats plugged into the AC mains. With all outputs off and battery fully charged it uses over 15 Watts all the time. With AC output on this goes up to 17 Watts again with nothing plugged in. This makes it an expensive solution for the UPS function. A video on the use of the control schedules would be nice and they only seem to keep working if unit always powered turning the charging and setting output times.
Your comparison spreadsheet is great but you need to add a link to your UA-cam channel in it. I opened the sheet, closed UA-cam then had a tough time finding the video I got it from.
I think the reason why the AC efficiency is relatively low is that the unit supports extension batteries. Since all AC output is from the main unit, it requires a bigger inverter to deal with both main battery and extension batteries.
Yesterday I purchased the Delta 2 and the extra battery as a combo package for $1049. I've got to set up a small solar panel system yet. Hopefully it will be enough to keep my refrigerator and small chest freezer going in case of emergency.
Actually, it is based on your needs if it's strictly based on price then yes but when it comes to warranties fast charging and reliability then ecoflow is the way.
I have a 100 dollar ecoflow gift card. Bought the delta 2 for 599. So pretty much paid 499 after gift card. Happy with my purchase. Works well with my wave.
I hope the Delta Max family is upgrading to Lithium Iron Phosphate. The main unit, battery (hopefully upgraded to LiFePO) and smart generator would be a great solution for the average user. I use an AC200 Max, but the ecosystem from Ecoflow is vastly superior and much more suitable for consumers.
You should add a column that takes into account the cycle count for each battery. It seems like you are paying more for the EcoFlow, but when you compare the lifecycle of an LFP battery, it gets 5 to 8 times more usable life, so you are actually getting more bang for you buck than one that has only a 500 or 800 cycle life.
Late comment: thanks for the great review. I suspect the efficiency has more to do with the actual capacity of the battery than conversion efficiency. At 1800 W, 75% efficiency means you’re dissipating 450W into the environment. That seems high. more likely it’s really only an 850 or 900 watt hour battery
Completely new to this. Just ordered a delta 2. Do you have a video on hooking up solar panels that are coming with it. Intimidated about hooking up the panels. Deer in the headlight.
I'd like a unit where I can replace the battery when exhausted. I need pure sine wave but willing to do without inductive chargers and other small conveniences.
Great review ! Would you get the pecron e1500lfp or ecoflo delta 2 plus extra battery?(I am looking for a power station for camping). Both of these are around same price at the moment. Thanks for the video!
Great review thank you. I decided to get this over other options including Delta 2 max and other technically better options. My logic was I have 1+some solar panels for short backup emergency power and camping (including powering the ecoflow wave portable AC), and for the price I can eventually get another Delta 2 and its still less than the max, that way in a longer term emergency one can be solar charging and one can be backup power and hopefully can just keep swapping them indefinitely. :)
Thanks for this video. I'm considering buying one. Do you have a video that talks in more detail about solar blankets. I have a solar blanket and would like to connect it to the exoflow. Great video. Really appreciate it.
The first thing that brought the Delta 2 down for me was that in order to get AC power out, I have to find the inverter button on the back of the unit! It can be hidden there, but the corresponding button should also be on the front panel, because I don't want to turn the device constantly and I don't want to go around it myself. I want that when I'm not doing anything with the device, I press the button on the front panel to turn the device OFF. So then, when I want to turn on the device, I have to press the front first and then the back. This is insane! Another thing that lowers my score further is that the device has only two fan positions for AC charging. Full blast for over 900W charging and slightly lower blast for up to 900W charging power. Why didn't they make this smarter so that the fan works to provide the actual cooling demand - not with excessive power and noise! You may very well want to charge with a slower and quieter fan, but even if I choose only 200W charging power, the fan still works as much as with 900W power. Crazy again!
I’m looking for a solar generator that I could use in place of a gas generator strictly for power outages. This means the unit is going to sit for long periods of time without being used because I really have no need for it other than for when the power goes out in the home. I contacted EcoFlow and it seems that the delta2 is really not designed to be stored for long periods of time with a charge so it doesn’t look like it would be a good choice for emergency back up power. I looked at the information for the Jackery 1000 pro and the documentation says that you can store a charge of up to 80% for 365 days. So it seems like the Jackery 1000 pro is a better choice to be used strictly as an emergency generator for when the power goes out. Have you looked into this yourself and have come to any conclusions? Thank you so much for your help.
This is useful I'm still researching what I need, but I'm in SoCal and a downed tree took my power out for 60 hours so I'm looking at solar generators since I'm in a place with earthquakes and can't rely on gas or propane in this environment, but also my place is 850 Sq FT so really considering my energy needs here. I think for my the ecoflow would be generally fine since it's not likely to see heavy use, but we will see.
I have an Oupes 1800 that runs my home fridge for 24 hours and takes 400W of solar, so it does charge fairly quickly in good sun. Great price, weighs about 32 pounds. I have various units from about 6 companies, lol, I started with small ones about 3 years ago, but I sure love that I can run my fridge with the Oupes 1800 (and an Oupes 1200 for when I charge the bigger unit with solar outside), plus have smaller units for phone charging and lights, etc. Bluetti EB3A units are great for the smaller stuff, just 10 pounds, can often get them for $250 or even less, and they take 200 W of solar for quite fast charging of a unit that is only 600W.
My Ecoflow Delta 2 unit is about two months old & currently won’t charge beyond 23%, had been planning to buy another but now I’m not so sure. Don’t think it’ll last much longer myself
@@joneslr25 supposed to be a 5 year warranty but paperwork says 2 year, I charged quite a few devices & had 1% showing for around 3 days. I’d guess it forgot where the discharged level was & had zero at around 77%, seems to be back to normal but its put me off buying their extra battery or another unit to expand storage.
Good review. It would be good to know what the "charging" kilowatt efficiency was too from dead to full (after all balancing etc.). Regarding the poor AC output efficiency, I suspect you'll find that they are being VERY conservative on the "discharged" (and/or possibly the fully charged) state voltage on these to get better life cycles. What that effectively means is they are cheating the 1024Wh capacity and trading effective capacity for cycles. No way their inverter is that inefficient from the tear downs I've seen (they are great, well designed electronics). Not a bad thing, but they should "derate" their advertised kWh, then, if they are going to use "conservative" charge/discharge levels for the batteries. I also suspect you could measure the "80% charged Wh" value from measuring with your kilowatt device, times a 80-85% charger efficiency number and get a better estimate of what they are getting for their final "utilized" capacity (since the slow charge last 20% is largely much more inefficient and used for balance charging and stuff).
I dont need more then 500w. I bought it with their own solarpanels, Was expensive, But more effective then normal sun panels i read. Also its just run in outide the window like a carpet. Very easy. I bought a 220w ecoflow sun panel. I might buy a normal 120w aswell
Just picked up one of these and their 220w solar panels for $999 on Amazon Prime day sale. Not exactly sure how I’m going to use it. Im hoping it can lessen my carbon footprint. Maybe lower my bill but I’m mostly wanting it to power necessities if the power goes out. Last time I lost power for about a full 24 hrs and it SUCKED!!!
Thanks for the informative video. Rare to see these detailed comparisons. If possible please compare the delta pro with zendure superbase v and the new anker powerhouse 767
Just curious if one of the upcoming generators you are planning to review might be the 4Patriots 1800? I recently purchased it and plan on testing it out a bit myself next week on a camping trip. Would be curious to see how it stacks up against the others you have reviewed.
A terrible thing! Over priced, over hyped, & under powered. Sadly, I got one before I knew what I was doing, then there was death in the family, & I found out what I had - too late to return it. The return shipping will be expensive, but you will still be better off! I'm getting more power out of about $600 of parts. Picked up my panels at Harbor Freight & Northern Tools when they were on sale, inherited a 1000w inverter, bought a controller & cables from renogy. Only need to upgrade my batteries, & still won't come near price of 4P junk!
@@CityPrepping hi , I'm looking for a power pack in the £1k range, would say this one is better than the BLUETTI EB150 ? Or is there another you would recommend in that price range?
I can definitely understand why it would be good to have something like this. But I just cannot justify it. I have a small solar powered battery pack that will charge my phone and that's about it. if I could afford it I would be all over one of these type of generators but I just can't do it.
I got a good laugh out of that, Kris. Still walking around the house chuckling. “Remote cabin” “Off-grid cabin” “Monitor over the Internet” Tears in my eyes laughing. 😂😂😂
@@danielyoung_ I’m just saying, …a remote, off grid cabin that doesn’t even have electricity. That’s hilarious. Now I’m going to get satellite Internet so I can monitor the thing providing power to the satellite Internet. Priceless.
I live fairly remote, 30 minutes to nearest town. In a cabin, in the woods, in Colorado. I work remote using Starlink. Everything is powered by a Delta Pro and extra battery. I regularly check on the status of the batteries from my fone when in town, as well as my cameras that make use of Starlink as well.
@@charlesmilam3062 Yep. Our hunting cabin is set up the same way. But that’s absolutely considered “on grid”. Wireless perhaps. But on grid nonetheless. Lol.
Is there a way to connect the EcoFlow Delta 2 to the home electric panel to select the circuits you want rather then running extension cords? No reviews has covered this that I could find. Thanks.
Which solar generator would you recommend for apartment use in winter for a canadian if our grid were to go down? Say for Lights/wifi/portable heaters being the biggest thing in winter/fridge/freezer/washer type things to just look at.
Hi Kris, great video! I just have a question for you. What cables do you use to connect your solar panels to the input jack to your Ecoflow? I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro and I bought two Renogy 400W panels. They have the common MC4 connectors that connect the panels in series. But the solar panel input cable that the Ecoflow Delta Pro came with, the cable that you plug into the actual unit itself, to the rear, wasn't working. I was told since I'm using solar panels other than the Ecoflow brand, I needed to buy an after market solar panel input cable called a GRAYBULL Solar Kit to XT60 Adapter Cable. Did you have to do the same thing?
I am looking for an EcoFlow battery to be an energy backup for a sump pump. How should I hook it up ? Ecoflow to the outlet and then plug the sump pump into the EcoFlow ? ...
Efficiency is largely dependent on rate of discharge. I've seen a pretty wide range of numbers on this unit. As long as you're consistent with your testing methods, your numbers should be sound. Not suggesting you do, but just don't attempt to discharge one unit in an hour and another over several hours. I've seen several others neglect this fact. My Bluetti has a much different efficiency if discharged over several hours since it's using 60watts per hour just keeping it powered.
Excellent and VERY detailed review on a "solar generator" I'm thinking of buying. With the Delta 2 AND an Off Grid TREK 220 watt solar blanket I can re-charge my E-mountain bike's 2 Li-ion batteries (via a patented single charge port). The TEK unit will be draped over my CX-5 windshield and roof and locked thru the grommets. The power cord is routed into my trunk to the charger. When I return to camp from hunting I just plug my bike'd charger unit into the Delta 2 and VOILE'! A full charge in less than 3 hours. I like that I can buy a companion ECO FLOW additional battery and the Delta 2 for about as much total cost as a more powerful BLUETTI AC 200 Max for close to the same money but have more versatility.
You should check out Grid Point Designs. They were at the RV and Van Expo in Portland Oregon last weekend, and Ecoflow decided to not even show up! It's a much higher grade product.
I just got mine but I’m sending it back as I can’t see where I can fix solar panel. Looks like I have to buy their brand of solar panel. I found it very difficult to use and very happy for me to lift up which is a shame because I’m still with Jacory.
After seeing how ecoflow’s customer service treated RoseRedHomestead I think I will pass on any Ecoflow product because of their poor customer service and trying to bribe them to change their Amazon review. Considering the other options you have reviewed.
When you scoped it and saw the distortion, I assume that the load was mostly resistive to eliminate any reactive load influence on the waveform? AFAIK, when measuring THD, that i expect would provide the most accurate and repeatable measurement.
I live in New Zealand, our power points are different. Would I require an adapter or two, which would make it look odd or does the ecoflow fit the right power points for a southern hemisphere country? Thanks. Love your content, I learn a thing or two. I van around my beautiful country when not working and seeking a power source to make things comfortable.
On Ecoflow's website for the Delta 2, it shows the info below: AC Input Voltage 100~120V (50Hz/60Hz). I bought a 3,408 Watt Licciti battery box (with 1,000 Watt pure sine wave inverter) which doesn't have a built in AC charging module and can only do about 200 watts input with a built in MPPT. $650 USD Battery box with 284 Ah Lifepo4 DIY battery kit and $158 USD 30 Amp AC charger. It has Anderson input/output plugs that can take around 500 Watts solar with a separate externalMPPT. The biggest positive point is that the battery can be changed since it's a BYOB (Bring Your Own Battery) device even after it burns down all 100% capacity of the battery and is dirt cheap. Also, The cost per KWh for the Licciti box with a 284 Ah Lifepo4 prismatic battery kit DIY and 30 Amp AC charger (120 / 240 Volt input) comes out to about .29 USD while the Ecoflow Delra 2 is currently on sale at Amazon for $499 USD so the cost per KWh is about .49 USD. It seems like a no brainer to buy another additional Licciti but have to put another 284 Ah Prismatic cell battery together and have to keep track of the 30 Amp AC charger puts me a bit off. I really would like to have the convenience and perks of the Ecoflow Delra 2. I will watch a few more Ecoflow Delra 2 video reviews before deciding.
What would be the best choice for emergency use during blackouts. Or maybe what features should you look for? This would be for a senior with some minor disability issues.
13:38 Not sure what Jackery model is behind you but the comparable Delta2 model is the Jackery 1000 and it only accepts 126W(12~30V,7.5~8.33A ) solar max input. Even the much more expensive 1500 max input rating is 400w according to the user manual.
Hi, thank you for the video. I have a question about AC efficiency = 74%. What it means? Delta 2 has a capacity of 1024 kwh so, if I take 74%, I have only 758 kwh available for my consummation. Is it correct? And if I decide to work in a range of charge/discharge of 80%/20% , I have to reduce this amount to 40% = 300kwh ???(I hope my assumption is false :) )
I have a delta 1000 basic unit fresh back from rework or repair , (wouldn't tell me) I'm doing a video tomorrow on there Customer service plus un boxing and if it was fixed
Hi, I am currently building a house which is four hours away from my current home. I would like to set up a system where the basement doesn’t flood when it rains. therefore I have a sump pump I need to connect to have it run automatically, when necessary. I am hoping with the delta 2, plus some solar panels, I can make it work. Would you consider the delta 2 be ideal for my purpose? Thank You.
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Ours just arrived in the mail! Thanks for the review!
Hi! I love your videos! Have you considered doing this sort of video, but with power banks? Like the ones that are $200 or less. A lot of people can't afford the full size generators, but there are a lot of power banks that could provide people with a few days of phone charges after an emergency. After our last tornado went through, I was able to convince a few of my friends to buy power banks, but there are so many on the market it's hard to pick! Some have fold out solar panels, and it would be great to hear your view on which ones are best! Thanks, and stay safe! :)
You say that it has 3000 ish charge cycle but there website only says 800 which is just over the warranty period
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@CityPrepping The Ecoflow Delta 2 does allow you to control and monitor the power station without internet connection, simply by using Bluetooth mode.
I know you’re so tired of talking about solar generators but I learn something new each time. Maybe I’m a slow learner. 🤣
Please do more of these reviews and comparisons, I planning on buying a solar generator and solar panels and your reviews are very helpful.
Thank you for this review. Says us potential buyers a lot of time in sorting through all the specs and details. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
I am currently researching these as I am ready to upgrade from my little Jackery; thank you for all the work you have put into this! My biggest concern with the Ecoflow units is the poor efficiency. I’m leaning toward the Pecron due to the cost difference from other comparable units. I would not buy another Jackery unit only because of the battery technology; they have just not advanced their technology but still want to charge the highest price. Thanks again Kris.
They are poor quality, mine broke in two months.
You have to return it no refund or exchange. Buyers beware.
@@stephenb5560 who? Ecoflow or Pecron?
@@online_now6834 Ecoflow.
I bought direct from the website.
The little lower efficiency of the battery type is offset by the lifespan and higher safety of the battery chemistry.
I am not happy with my Pecron, they have weird solar panel requirements, proprietary solar input connections, and seem just really clunky compared to the other brands I have. Look at Oupes 1800 and Oupes 1200, I have both to help run my home fridge, very easy, take all my Bluetti and Allpowers solar panels, great price, and my 1800 watt unit had a display problem and the company replaced it within days of me contacting and sending photos of the display gibberish.
I also have several Bluetti EB3A units for low watt recharging or even for charging the larger Oupes unit which weighs about 32 pounds and is a problem for my chronic back problems, whereas taking several 10-pound EB3A units out to charge and then back in is far easier!
I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro that I bought after using your spreadsheet. I like it, the solar panels are heavy for me to move. I'm happy that I have it and hope to get 2 more panels and the solar panel tracker thing.
My biggest issue with using these units as preps is that all lithium battery technologies recommends storing at less than 50% charge. So, you have to choose whether to only have 50% of your stated energy available when crisis hits, or damage the batteries inside by keeping them fully charged, or use them regularly. VERY FEW people are aware of this when buying these as emergency preps.
I didn’t know this. Thank you!
My lithium powered batteries that I use for power tools at my work hold up well being stored at 100% charge - I’ve been using them since 2016 …
@@wardmontgomery9259 using them for power tools at work is the exact opposite of storing them.
If you have a li-ion battery from 2016 that is holding over 10% charge you will certainly receive prize money from battery manufacturers everywhere. Tool batteries, have an expected life of 300 cycles. Less than one year of daily use.
I agree. Most reviews NEVER cover this important limitation. I don't know why but I can suspect.
@@byrondaniels421 I know exactly why. These units are primarily designed to throw in the back of a pickup and provide power to a jobsite or similar. They are being marketed to the prepping crowd as a "set it and forget it" option.
Thanks for all you do for the community.
Great Vid❗ I have an EcoFlow Delta 1300 and am using two Off Grid Trek 200 watt solar blankets as listed in the description. They are amazing. Plus they work in low light which wasn't mentioned. I did a video about using them in poor conditions and cable hook up. Off Grid Trek really helped me out after the freeze here in Texas. Customer service blew me away. I called twice with questions and both times Rene the owner answered the phone.
I have a 300 watt Enginstar but no panels lol. Could barely save for the Solar Generator. But am proud of myself that I was able to do that.
🙏 for panels.
It's amazing how many demonstrations that you do! I know it's a job but ThsnknYou for your time. This is a great solar generator.
Stay Safe God Bless.
Surprisingly, the Harbor Freight panels that I purchased for CHEAP- on sale, have done really well for me, now 2 years in. Running my shed & tools with them. Best advice on these, try them out right away & check their output. If you got a bad one, take it back right away-- they won't have a problem exchanging or returning it. I have 3 & they all love the Florida sunshine & 1 consistently puts out higher than it's rated for! 114- 119! It's rated 100. One is almost dead on 100, & 1 comes in at the mid 90's. 🍀 to you.
A great and honest review, certainly not nearly as "rosey" as some other reviews. I was considering this as a backup for my refrigerator, but dropped it for the EPS inconsistancies between multiple reviewers, dropping solar completely when AC is present (no dual charging), and pretty low AC efficiency when compared to other EcoFlow products. Still quite a bit of bang for the buck though and continuing the trend that the Bluetti EB3A started with a large inverter with a smaller battery. Thanks!
So what would you recommend?
For $100 more ($1399 on sale now) you can get the Bluetti AC200P, everything except for UPS function, 2000 watt battery and inverter
@@johntate5284 Thanks John, I will look into that one. I had seen it listed but wasn't sure if it was old tech or not and hadn't got around to looking at it.
@@The_Tool_Scoop Don't expect anyone to answer the phone at bluetti if you need assistance.😖
@@fckjb284 It sounds like you're speaking from exoerience there. Thanks for the warning.
Last weeks video really helped me clearly understand what I need to look for
That’s awesome!
Love the opening quote! LOL Thanks for all the details you have given us on a wide variety of the solar generators. Truely appreciate it.
caught me off guard with that quote
I have been researching solar generators for over a year and am leaning towards the Generark (now known as Geneverse.) I am looking to the HomePower2 generator. The solar panels are all weather, it also has a 5 year warranty, their website also states that when fully charged this generator can store and hold the power for at least a year. So far this one sounds amazing and has great reviews. Have you or anyone on your channel tried this generator? Would be great to hear a personal review. Thank you for this info in today’s review, I was actually going to look into this company as I just learned of them, but with info received I’ll pass.
I got the 220 solar panel for this generator. Took me 3 days to charge it to 100% via solar and I used it to see how it charges my hybrid. Took me 3 days to charge the ECOFLOW only to charge my car up to 4 miles. (My car normally gives me anywhere from 43-53 miles of EV.)
Yikes, I definitely would not of bought a unit of this size if that’s the job I wanted it to do.
@@betterarmed You wouldn't know unless you or someone else tried. That's why I'm sharing... It's specifically referring to a hybrid. Not for household. Which I wish he could've demonstrated in the video.
You must have had a lot of cloud or a bad angle, the math for your solar panel and this unit means it should NOT take 3 days to charge it!!
Get another panel so you get closer to the max it can take, and make sure you have the right angling and decent sun days.
3 days with their 220w panel? Where do you live?
220w is theoretical ofc, but 160w should definitely be achievable of that and with 160w it shouldn't take 3 days
I purchased one of these and had problems with it out of the box. I spent almost 2 months jumping through there hoops to diagnose prior to them telling me to return. They diagnosed it as a faulty battery. I was informed that they would send me a refurbished replacement. I questioned them about this and they informed me after 30 days they won’t give a new one. So wondering what is the point having a 5 year warranty?
Good info. Thanks.
“If I have to do one more solar generator review, I’ll kill myself.” -Probably not Abe Lincoln 😂
Yeah I don't think that's how he died😅
"It was on the internet so it must be true" -Abraham Lincoln.
As always great video Kris I very much appreciate the time you put into these videos.
Hi now that I see your spreadsheet. I know I can't afford those. Thats so sad that items we will need in emergencies. Some of us can't get. I will still be watching you... have great day
I bought the Delta 1300, 1260 Wh battery. Just getting in to this. I am saving up and buying them as I can pay for them, so hopefully I can cashflow a decent system where I could run most of my systems in the event of a sustained power outage. Just ordered a EcoFlow 175 watt solar panel. Thank you for the info!
Just bought one during Amazon Prime Days for $479 and free shipping. Note, there are no returns unless it is damaged as it qualifies as "hazardous material". I sure hope I like it!
Nice job Kris! Really like the expansion capabilities so you can buy in and grow your capacity as your income and needs dictate
Thanks for the review. Just ordered one even though there maybe better options. I just love the 3000+ cycles. I can see this lasting me the next decade. Also the option to expand is a great draw.
How's it working for you so far? How long did it take to get?
@@allaboutroofing2 I haven’t had a chance to take it camping so haven’t had a chance to put it through it’s paces. It took about 4 days to get it.
If you plan on serious use, I’d get something bigger. I used it to power a laptop, 2 monitors, iPad, iPhone and a small light, it gave me a run time of 5 hours from a 95% charge.
@@allaboutroofing2 correction. I ran it down to 35% with the previous setup.
I just bought one from HSN who was selling them with solar panels and power stripe kit for only $651.74. 😊
These are neat little portable devices. I jumped ahead and DIY'd an off-grid solution with 4Kw of panels, an 8Kw LF split phase inverter, and 20KwH of rack mount batteries. Not portable, but I don't have a cabin anywhere. Maybe a portable bug out EcoFlow in the future. Cheers
I just purchased this with 400 watt solar panel and Delta 2 extra battery mainly for fridge and or freezer. just under $3000. Hope I did well. I am not very tech savvy. a friend will help me to set it up.
A very nice review covering most of the features.
One bit of information missing is how much power it eats plugged into the AC mains. With all outputs off and battery fully charged it uses over 15 Watts all the time. With AC output on this goes up to 17 Watts again with nothing plugged in. This makes it an expensive solution for the UPS function.
A video on the use of the control schedules would be nice and they only seem to keep working if unit always powered turning the charging and setting output times.
Your comparison spreadsheet is great but you need to add a link to your UA-cam channel in it. I opened the sheet, closed UA-cam then had a tough time finding the video I got it from.
I think the reason why the AC efficiency is relatively low is that the unit supports extension batteries. Since all AC output is from the main unit, it requires a bigger inverter to deal with both main battery and extension batteries.
I suggest the poor efficiency is because the battery capacity isn't what Ecoflow say it is
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and everyone else and thank you for sharing everything
Excellent and thorough review of the product. Much appreciated.
The 3000 charge cycles takes the cake. It will certainly last for more than 10 years.
Thanks Kris for another very informative effort on our behalf!
Yesterday I purchased the Delta 2 and the extra battery as a combo package for $1049. I've got to set up a small solar panel system yet. Hopefully it will be enough to keep my refrigerator and small chest freezer going in case of emergency.
I have 2 days to decide between the delta 2 and blueti ac 180 both on sale for the same price for 2 more days. Both have virtually the same spec
Based on your data...seems pecron e2000lfp is solid option for the price, solar input, and efficiency.
yup
Actually, it is based on your needs if it's strictly based on price then yes but when it comes to warranties fast charging and reliability then ecoflow is the way.
Very good video. I love your work on the spread sheet. Its nice to see a fair and balanced review.
I have a 100 dollar ecoflow gift card. Bought the delta 2 for 599. So pretty much paid 499 after gift card. Happy with my purchase. Works well with my wave.
I hope the Delta Max family is upgrading to Lithium Iron Phosphate. The main unit, battery (hopefully upgraded to LiFePO) and smart generator would be a great solution for the average user. I use an AC200 Max, but the ecosystem from Ecoflow is vastly superior and much more suitable for consumers.
Thanks for bringing more great content to the community
You should add a column that takes into account the cycle count for each battery. It seems like you are paying more for the EcoFlow, but when you compare the lifecycle of an LFP battery, it gets 5 to 8 times more usable life, so you are actually getting more bang for you buck than one that has only a 500 or 800 cycle life.
The delta 2 has a LPF battery
@@michaelbalabanoff9441 Yes. That's what I said.
@@jacobweinfeld3855 my bad I misread your comment
Late comment: thanks for the great review. I suspect the efficiency has more to do with the actual capacity of the battery than conversion efficiency. At 1800 W, 75% efficiency means you’re dissipating 450W into the environment. That seems high. more likely it’s really only an 850 or 900 watt hour battery
Completely new to this. Just ordered a delta 2. Do you have a video on hooking up solar panels that are coming with it. Intimidated about hooking up the panels. Deer in the headlight.
These black friday deals are insane with EcoFlow. Purchased the Delta 2 with panels. I'm excited.
What was your total price on sale with Tax .. and where did you buy it - at EcoFlow..? We have a EcoFlow Delta 1300.. and it works great ..
Hows it been working out for ya?
Thank you for the review!!
My pleasure!
It definitely is better than most of the other power stations, Nothing charges faster.
Thank you for explaining it in a way that I can understand.
Love the transparency
I'd like a unit where I can replace the battery when exhausted. I need pure sine wave but willing to do without inductive chargers and other small conveniences.
Great review ! Would you get the pecron e1500lfp or ecoflo delta 2 plus extra battery?(I am looking for a power station for camping). Both of these are around same price at the moment. Thanks for the video!
For me, the peak and constant output is the most important.
I don’t know if I’m not typing in your discount code in right but it’s not wrong
Prefer the Deltaflow products and company better than Bluetti because of their customer service. Anything goes wrong you actually speak to someone.
Great review thank you. I decided to get this over other options including Delta 2 max and other technically better options. My logic was I have 1+some solar panels for short backup emergency power and camping (including powering the ecoflow wave portable AC), and for the price I can eventually get another Delta 2 and its still less than the max, that way in a longer term emergency one can be solar charging and one can be backup power and hopefully can just keep swapping them indefinitely. :)
Curious, have you reached out to Ecoflow regarding the Pure Sine Wave issue in you test. The manual for the Delta 2 states "Pure Sine Wave".
I just bought 2 for $650 each on Amazon :) Gonna connect them in series. That way I have 1 if 1 fails in my campervan.
My InergyFlex is arriving today after a 3-month wait. Woo- hoo!
Other reviews show over 80% capacity. The PS has been available for $420-430 recently. 😊
Thanks for this video. I'm considering buying one. Do you have a video that talks in more detail about solar blankets. I have a solar blanket and would like to connect it to the exoflow. Great video. Really appreciate it.
Thank your for condensing all of this research. Gonna check the Bluetti one out to. Thank you!
Awesome video. First time viewer. What are your thoughts on anker 757 power station?
The first thing that brought the Delta 2 down for me was that in order to get AC power out, I have to find the inverter button on the back of the unit! It can be hidden there, but the corresponding button should also be on the front panel, because I don't want to turn the device constantly and I don't want to go around it myself. I want that when I'm not doing anything with the device, I press the button on the front panel to turn the device OFF. So then, when I want to turn on the device, I have to press the front first and then the back. This is insane!
Another thing that lowers my score further is that the device has only two fan positions for AC charging. Full blast for over 900W charging and slightly lower blast for up to 900W charging power. Why didn't they make this smarter so that the fan works to provide the actual cooling demand - not with excessive power and noise! You may very well want to charge with a slower and quieter fan, but even if I choose only 200W charging power, the fan still works as much as with 900W power. Crazy again!
I just bought one
Me too.
I’m looking for a solar generator that I could use in place of a gas generator strictly for power outages. This means the unit is going to sit for long periods of time without being used because I really have no need for it other than for when the power goes out in the home. I contacted EcoFlow and it seems that the delta2 is really not designed to be stored for long periods of time with a charge so it doesn’t look like it would be a good choice for emergency back up power. I looked at the information for the Jackery 1000 pro and the documentation says that you can store a charge of up to 80% for 365 days. So it seems like the Jackery 1000 pro is a better choice to be used strictly as an emergency generator for when the power goes out. Have you looked into this yourself and have come to any conclusions? Thank you so much for your help.
This is useful I'm still researching what I need, but I'm in SoCal and a downed tree took my power out for 60 hours so I'm looking at solar generators since I'm in a place with earthquakes and can't rely on gas or propane in this environment, but also my place is 850 Sq FT so really considering my energy needs here. I think for my the ecoflow would be generally fine since it's not likely to see heavy use, but we will see.
I have an Oupes 1800 that runs my home fridge for 24 hours and takes 400W of solar, so it does charge fairly quickly in good sun. Great price, weighs about 32 pounds. I have various units from about 6 companies, lol, I started with small ones about 3 years ago, but I sure love that I can run my fridge with the Oupes 1800 (and an Oupes 1200 for when I charge the bigger unit with solar outside), plus have smaller units for phone charging and lights, etc. Bluetti EB3A units are great for the smaller stuff, just 10 pounds, can often get them for $250 or even less, and they take 200 W of solar for quite fast charging of a unit that is only 600W.
My Ecoflow Delta 2 unit is about two months old & currently won’t charge beyond 23%, had been planning to buy another but now I’m not so sure. Don’t think it’ll last much longer myself
Isn't it still under warranty???
@@joneslr25 supposed to be a 5 year warranty but paperwork says 2 year, I charged quite a few devices & had 1% showing for around 3 days. I’d guess it forgot where the discharged level was & had zero at around 77%, seems to be back to normal but its put me off buying their extra battery or another unit to expand storage.
Good review. It would be good to know what the "charging" kilowatt efficiency was too from dead to full (after all balancing etc.). Regarding the poor AC output efficiency, I suspect you'll find that they are being VERY conservative on the "discharged" (and/or possibly the fully charged) state voltage on these to get better life cycles. What that effectively means is they are cheating the 1024Wh capacity and trading effective capacity for cycles. No way their inverter is that inefficient from the tear downs I've seen (they are great, well designed electronics). Not a bad thing, but they should "derate" their advertised kWh, then, if they are going to use "conservative" charge/discharge levels for the batteries. I also suspect you could measure the "80% charged Wh" value from measuring with your kilowatt device, times a 80-85% charger efficiency number and get a better estimate of what they are getting for their final "utilized" capacity (since the slow charge last 20% is largely much more inefficient and used for balance charging and stuff).
I dont need more then 500w. I bought it with their own solarpanels, Was expensive, But more effective then normal sun panels i read. Also its just run in outide the window like a carpet. Very easy. I bought a 220w ecoflow sun panel. I might buy a normal 120w aswell
Just picked up one of these and their 220w solar panels for $999 on Amazon Prime day sale. Not exactly sure how I’m going to use it. Im hoping it can lessen my carbon footprint. Maybe lower my bill but I’m mostly wanting it to power necessities if the power goes out. Last time I lost power for about a full 24 hrs and it SUCKED!!!
Thanks for the informative video. Rare to see these detailed comparisons. If possible please compare the delta pro with zendure superbase v and the new anker powerhouse 767
Just curious if one of the upcoming generators you are planning to review might be the 4Patriots 1800? I recently purchased it and plan on testing it out a bit myself next week on a camping trip. Would be curious to see how it stacks up against the others you have reviewed.
Return it you can. It’s hands down the biggest piece of junk on the market.
Yea man that thing is trash, unfortunately so is the company....
A terrible thing! Over priced, over hyped, & under powered. Sadly, I got one before I knew what I was doing, then there was death in the family, & I found out what I had - too late to return it. The return shipping will be expensive, but you will still be better off!
I'm getting more power out of about $600 of parts. Picked up my panels at Harbor Freight & Northern Tools when they were on sale, inherited a 1000w inverter, bought a controller & cables from renogy. Only need to upgrade my batteries, & still won't come near price of 4P junk!
@@CityPrepping hi , I'm looking for a power pack in the £1k range, would say this one is better than the BLUETTI EB150 ? Or is there another you would recommend in that price range?
I can definitely understand why it would be good to have something like this. But I just cannot justify it. I have a small solar powered battery pack that will charge my phone and that's about it. if I could afford it I would be all over one of these type of generators but I just can't do it.
I got a good laugh out of that, Kris. Still walking around the house chuckling.
“Remote cabin”
“Off-grid cabin”
“Monitor over the Internet”
Tears in my eyes laughing. 😂😂😂
Definitely funny, but you could certainly control it over a local network, regardless of internet
@@danielyoung_ I’m just saying, …a remote, off grid cabin that doesn’t even have electricity. That’s hilarious. Now I’m going to get satellite Internet so I can monitor the thing providing power to the satellite Internet. Priceless.
I live fairly remote, 30 minutes to nearest town. In a cabin, in the woods, in Colorado. I work remote using Starlink. Everything is powered by a Delta Pro and extra battery. I regularly check on the status of the batteries from my fone when in town, as well as my cameras that make use of Starlink as well.
@@charlesmilam3062 Yep. Our hunting cabin is set up the same way. But that’s absolutely considered “on grid”. Wireless perhaps. But on grid nonetheless. Lol.
Is there a way to connect the EcoFlow Delta 2 to the home electric panel to select the circuits you want rather then running extension cords? No reviews has covered this that I could find. Thanks.
Which solar generator would you recommend for apartment use in winter for a canadian if our grid were to go down? Say for Lights/wifi/portable heaters being the biggest thing in winter/fridge/freezer/washer type things to just look at.
Hi Kris, great video! I just have a question for you. What cables do you use to connect your solar panels to the input jack to your Ecoflow? I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro and I bought two Renogy 400W panels. They have the common MC4 connectors that connect the panels in series. But the solar panel input cable that the Ecoflow Delta Pro came with, the cable that you plug into the actual unit itself, to the rear, wasn't working. I was told since I'm using solar panels other than the Ecoflow brand, I needed to buy an after market solar panel input cable called a GRAYBULL Solar Kit to XT60 Adapter Cable. Did you have to do the same thing?
I am looking for an EcoFlow battery to be an energy backup for a sump pump.
How should I hook it up ? Ecoflow to the outlet and then plug the sump pump into the EcoFlow ? ...
Where to buy the solar blanket you mentioned thank you love the videos
Efficiency is largely dependent on rate of discharge. I've seen a pretty wide range of numbers on this unit. As long as you're consistent with your testing methods, your numbers should be sound. Not suggesting you do, but just don't attempt to discharge one unit in an hour and another over several hours. I've seen several others neglect this fact. My Bluetti has a much different efficiency if discharged over several hours since it's using 60watts per hour just keeping it powered.
Due to the efficiency issue would you recommend the pecron or the bluettie over this?
Excellent and VERY detailed review on a "solar generator" I'm thinking of buying. With the Delta 2 AND an Off Grid TREK 220 watt solar blanket I can re-charge my E-mountain bike's 2 Li-ion batteries (via a patented single charge port). The TEK unit will be draped over my CX-5 windshield and roof and locked thru the grommets. The power cord is routed into my trunk to the charger. When I return to camp from hunting I just plug my bike'd charger unit into the Delta 2 and VOILE'! A full charge in less than 3 hours.
I like that I can buy a companion ECO FLOW additional battery and the Delta 2 for about as much total cost as a more powerful BLUETTI AC 200 Max for close to the same money but have more versatility.
You should check out Grid Point Designs. They were at the RV and Van Expo in Portland Oregon last weekend, and Ecoflow decided to not even show up! It's a much higher grade product.
Really appreciate you making this video
I just got mine but I’m sending it back as I can’t see where I can fix solar panel. Looks like I have to buy their brand of solar panel. I found it very difficult to use and very happy for me to lift up which is a shame because I’m still with Jacory.
After seeing how ecoflow’s customer service treated RoseRedHomestead I think I will pass on any Ecoflow product because of their poor customer service and trying to bribe them to change their Amazon review. Considering the other options you have reviewed.
When you scoped it and saw the distortion, I assume that the load was mostly resistive to eliminate any reactive load influence on the waveform? AFAIK, when measuring THD, that i expect would provide the most accurate and repeatable measurement.
I live in New Zealand, our power points are different. Would I require an adapter or two, which would make it look odd or does the ecoflow fit the right power points for a southern hemisphere country? Thanks. Love your content, I learn a thing or two. I van around my beautiful country when not working and seeking a power source to make things comfortable.
On Ecoflow's website for the Delta 2, it shows the info below: AC Input Voltage
100~120V (50Hz/60Hz).
I bought a 3,408 Watt Licciti battery box (with 1,000 Watt pure sine wave inverter) which doesn't have a built in AC charging module and can only do about 200 watts input with a built in MPPT. $650 USD Battery box with 284 Ah Lifepo4 DIY battery kit and $158 USD 30 Amp AC charger.
It has Anderson input/output plugs that can take around 500 Watts solar with a separate externalMPPT. The biggest positive point is that the battery can be changed since it's a BYOB (Bring Your Own Battery) device even after it burns down all 100% capacity of the battery and is dirt cheap.
Also, The cost per KWh for the Licciti box with a 284 Ah Lifepo4 prismatic battery kit DIY and 30 Amp AC charger (120 / 240 Volt input) comes out to about .29 USD while the Ecoflow Delra 2 is currently on sale at Amazon for $499 USD so the cost per KWh is about .49 USD.
It seems like a no brainer to buy another additional Licciti but have to put another 284 Ah Prismatic cell battery together and have to keep track of the 30 Amp AC charger puts me a bit off.
I really would like to have the convenience and perks of the Ecoflow Delra 2. I will watch a few more Ecoflow Delra 2 video reviews before deciding.
Love the “probably Abraham Lincoln” quote! 😂😂😂😂❤😂😂😂😂
Love your videos. Can I hook up a lifepo4 to this as well as solar panels? And would it use the solar first and then the hooked up battery bank?
What would be the best choice for emergency use during blackouts. Or maybe what features should you look for? This would be for a senior with some minor disability issues.
These are down to $699 at walmart. I need it to use when I camp without electricity. Do u recommend that?
13:38 Not sure what Jackery model is behind you but the comparable Delta2 model is the Jackery 1000 and it only accepts 126W(12~30V,7.5~8.33A ) solar max input. Even the much more expensive 1500 max input rating is 400w according to the user manual.
It looks like one of the larger pro models.
Why doesn't ecoflow customer support offer support? They promised a call back but forgot me.
Hi, thank you for the video. I have a question about AC efficiency = 74%. What it means? Delta 2 has a capacity of 1024 kwh so, if I take 74%, I have only 758 kwh available for my consummation.
Is it correct? And if I decide to work in a range of charge/discharge of 80%/20% , I have to reduce this amount to 40% = 300kwh ???(I hope my assumption is false :) )
I have a delta 1000 basic unit fresh back from rework or repair , (wouldn't tell me) I'm doing a video tomorrow on there Customer service plus un boxing and if it was fixed
I love the intro 😂
Hi, I am currently building a house which is four hours away from my current home. I would like to set up a system where the basement doesn’t flood when it rains. therefore I have a sump pump I need to connect to have it run automatically, when necessary. I am hoping with the delta 2, plus some solar panels, I can make it work. Would you consider the delta 2 be ideal for my purpose?
Thank You.
Thank you for doing all the work on these!
Good review, thank you!
Solid work as always Kris.