There's a famous quote from BB King: "He has the sweetest tone I ever heard; he was the only one who gave me the cold sweats." He's the best blues singer and guitar player the UK's ever produced.
there's a lot of quotes that have attained legendary status that don't mean a thing, for instance, allegedly, Jimi Hendrix said something like, billy gibbons is the greatest - whatever, just cause hendrix said it doesn't mean it's true, or that he even said it in the first place, and secondly, billy gibbons is a dime a dozen player, famous and rich, yes, but there's nothing legendary about his playing. Long story longer, point is, if BB said that, cool, doesn't mean he's correct or if that's exactly what he said or meant. P.S. I love PG 's playing, just making a point about famous quotes.
I wrote, JIMI, not Jimmy, and you missed the point, that being, there's a whole lot of quotes about who said what about whom and most are 100% fiction. Whether JIMMY somebody said something about Rory Gallagher. who knows, probably BS like the JIMI Hendrix quotes... Jimi was a notoriously nice man who said great things about EVERY guitarist he'd met, are they true, most likely NOT.
t a you have a point,even though I loved Peter greens Fleetwood mac material,even Bb King's opinion is subjective and I believe that Danny did most of the heavy lifting in the band and Peter played mainly rhythm and a bit of lead here and there,although his playing on the Supernatural imo is stunning,worth a listen if anyone hasn't heard it.
thanks, we agree. Talking ANYTHING guitar players gets everyone effin crazy! It's not about who's technically the best, or who's tone is perfect, etc., IT'S ABOUT WHATEVER A PERSON LIKES, just because someone likes Clapton or Alvin Lee or WHOEVER does not mean anyone else isn't worthy of admiration. Peace.
Peter Green is still IMO the best blues/ blues rock player to come out of the UK, and one of the best of all time easily. Clapton was great and can still do it, but to my ears every note that Peter Green put on record meant something, and was full of substance and pure emotion. Just a phenomenal musician.... Greg is spot on here, this tone is totally usable, but you have to do some tweaking to get it right and to keep the sound from being too thin and hollow. You can get this mod with any dual humbucker equipped guitar, but the best way to do it is with a set of pickups wired out of phase like a BK PG Blues or Seymour Greeny set where the neck pickup is wired out of phase with the bridge. Or for maximum versatility try the Jimmy Page mod with a DPDT push pull pot so you can have both in phase and out of phase sounds. As someone who uses this sound almost exclusively, I would not simply flip the magnet in the neck humbucker-- there is an incredible loss of power in the middle position when you do this that makes the guitar a pain to use more than anything. Great vid Wildwood, thanks!
All the tones are totally useable. I have the vintage v100pglm, the pickups are out of phase like the original. I played it for a few gigs in my band years ago, I usually used a gould 3 pickup Les Paul. Some members of another band came up to me after a show I had used the Greenymoore on and told me I sounded so much better during that show
Peter Green's playing on 'The Supernatural' on the Bluesbreakers A Hard Road album - holy crap! When someone is talking British blues of that era and they say Beck/Clapton/Page but Green should always be included.
Peter Green---my all time favourite player. To "refine" the out of phase sound even more twiddle(technical term)the tone controls as well as the volumes.
A guy who lives near me grew up around Mr Green because his Dad was part of Peter’s scene. He was given a signed Strat by him just because he liked it. I’ve played that strat in his studio and it is his pride and joy. What a wonderful gentle lovely amazing brilliant man. Btw any R9 Lemon burst rewired will do that tone and look the biz
The supernatural, jumping at shadows, green manelishi, oh, well part 1and part 2 , rattlesnake shake , and the original black magic woman plus many other mighty fine tracks oh my
Now I know a guy his name is Mick / He don't care if he's got no chick He does the shake / The Rattlesnake Shake Saw them several times at The Tea Party, Boston MA., 1969-70. Greenie and the boys were truly an iconic blues band in the early days. The Mac has the most interesting history of any band, ever. The changes they went through from 1967 til today make for a great story. And the music has remained top notch through every iteration. I do love the original band most, but also what they became and still are - a great band with great songs and the ability to inspire a large cross section of music lovers. It is a testimony to what talent and a "Then Play On" attitude can achieve.
Peter A. Green a genius with no sense of self! A tone to die for, a touch so subtle and amazing vibrato! Less is more! That voice, totally heartfelt and genuine! After he joined the blues breaker's and Clapton is God appearing on walls around London, The Green God could b seen!
Peter was a legendary soulful player and singer. It saddens me to think what he could’ve accomplished had he not taken the hard drugs and subsequent psychotherapy. Thank goodness we have Gregory to listen to!
How precisely are you defining 'hard drugs'? The guy had schizophrenia. LSD or no he still would have collapsed into schizophrenia.....he was always on borrowed time.
Krausewitz the story goes on the infamous trip to Germany he either had bad lsd or heroin. Yes he was burning the candle at both ends, I agree. Just pointing out that his musical ability was taken away much too soon.
There are great amazing guitar players all over the place that go undiscovered or unappreciated or lose their minds to drugs, much more so than PG. He is fortunate to be the legend he is, just not as fortunate as some. If he wanted to be Hendrix, he would have to off himself.
Krausewitz The guy HAS schizophrenia. And he didn’t have it before he went off with some VERY dodgy Germans who plied him with some very dodgy LSD. Both Mick Fleetwood and John McVie say the mental illness is down to those creepy Krauts. Schizophrenia does not always manifest itself, but certain drugs like LSD and skunk cannabis can trigger the illness in those with a genetic risk.
Yes, Gary Moore owned it ‘for a while’. Just 34 years. 9 2208 will forever be Moore/Green’s Burst, even the name ‘Greeny’ was given by Gary. ‘Shame on you!’ (Cit.)
Out of phase is only the beginning. The tone comes from certain frequencies cancelling from combining the two pickups, for which the individual levels would need to be the same. That’s why the resulting tone is so dependent on the settings of the volume and tone controls.
I had the good fortune of seeing the original Fleetwood Mac, fronted by Peter Green, in 1969. In Houston, TX. Featured Green, Mick F., John McVie, Danny Kirwin, and Jeremy Spencer. Front row seats. Very hard driving, blues-oriented, as I recall. Spaced tightly together on stage as was the practice then.
Green Manaleshi that burst sounds great I heard Greenie and did not care for it but I did not get to hear either tone in middle pos lowered as shown here that sound is instantly recognizable in the right hands of course... Well played .
If you watch old videos of Peter playing his 59 pay close attention to how his pickups are adjusted . The base side is adjusted down into the pickup rings . The trebble side are adjusted up over the rings . Remember 59 rings were really tall especially on the bridge position. I learned about the pickup adjustment on another channel from a real Peter Green fan . He also showed his amp settings and they were pretty much cranked all the way .
My SG Special came from the factory with the bridge pickup’s magnets installed backwards. So the pickups are out of phase. I use this sound a lot, with one or the other pickup’s vol rolled back a little as Greg demos here. Huge amount of tonal versatility! Add the tone pots into the mix and the variety is even greater.
Someone, what's the Peter Green solo Greg plays at 5:13 in the clip? Of course I've heard it before, and I'd like to know what it's called. Thanks so much.
fabulous! love the history and how greg explains,dramatizes it!- love peter, love greg,say no more!....except...do more like this...short sweet, and fun....like greg....except the short bit!! :-))
I accidentally wired my telestyle guitar with a humbucker in the neck and single coil in the bridge when I replaced the pickups now I get that out of phase sound in the middle position with both pickups. After watching this video I may just leave it as it is Thanks for posting this vid
Actually no. The first album was printed with ‘Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac’ on it without Peters permission, and he got mad at the record company and demanded they remove it. The band was always just Fleetwood Mac.
Peter green was? I'm hoping he's still with us,yeah I get you totally on the out of phase les Paul sound,I had my les Paul modded in the shop to get that sound and I love it,you do lose some volume on that middle position but just crank the amp up a little more
I am a big fan of Peter Green but the undisputed fact is that Freddie King used the « Peter Green » (Gibson out of phase) sound way before Peter Green did!
Thanks Guys! I'm hip to this tone. I wasn't for most of my life until last year, I put a Golden Age overwound open coil humbucker in the bridge position of my Les Paul and for looks I stuck a really old Schaller open coil humbucker in the neck (from my old Kramer) To my dismay, It sounded exactly like this; and my ears were finally opened to the out of phase tone. Even though I've heard it on Albert King records I didn't know what it was. I also heard that in the old days a Flying V, Les Paul or Explorer would come off the line in Kalamazoo with one of humbucker magnets reversed and it was a bonus because it had that sound by mistake and people caught on to it.
I have no idea why people hate this sound so much. I remember when I accidentally wired humbuckers out-of-phase, I was confused for a little bit, and then I was in love.
I've modded 3 of my axes hard-wired for out of phase in middle position. I just like it so much I don't even care about adding an extra switch to toggle between stock and the mod.
@@OmicronTauKappaClassicDaddy yeah man plus the middle position on an HH guitar when its in phase is just not that great of a tone. I normally just use bridge or neck by themselves. Out of phase in the middle just gives you a great way to cut all that bass and power at the flick of a switch. One way I really like to use it is to cut the power at the end of a hard rock song rather than a traditional fade out. Makes for an interesting outro. Almost sounds like a compression effect.
Green was the BEST British Bluesman of that era, the 60's.... All those who became legends then cannot hold a candlel to Green's perfect tone and timing... granted, that guitar was a part of it, but it's his timing, phrasing, his humble soul, the human element, that truly sets him apart from the others. Unfortunately, Peter did not age well. He was a sensitive man, a troubled soul, got into drugs, a lot of drugs, to insulate himself from society, and he fried something. So sad. Gary Moore, who worshiped Green, not only played that guitar, but carried the Green torch, his soul went wirh the instrument when Gary got it. Moore's album, Blues for Greenie, is a masterpiece, and a hell of a tribute to Peter. Buy it. I have yet to hear Hammett on it. I guess it's time to search YT. That guitar, and Marty Stuart's Tele, are holy grail guitars to me. There's so much history in those instruments. Several manufacturers offer Greenie pickups. I will be building one....no doubt... a B-bender Tele too.
I just discovered that first real guitar is out of phase. It’s a 1993 Epiphone Les Paul mom got me new when i was 13. It came with decent humbuckers and by 95 or 96 i put in a George Lynch Screamin Demon in the bridge because i liked that juicy PAF sound and it didn’t cost me a lot. So I abandoned the Epi LP in favor for a Mexican Strat by 1998 and many other guitars followed throughout the last 30 years but i always kept the Epi at moms house. Always in a hard shell case and always laying down flat. I visited mom the other day and dug it out and brought it home and found it was out of phase in the middle after noticing the volume was lower in the middle than in neck and bridge pickups individually. So I hit up google and it’s a common occurring accident when people swap out just one stock pickup out of older LP style Asian guitars like my Korean Epi. Reason given is because whoever wound the stock pups , wound them in the opposite direction than the aftermarket pickup you just installed is. Funny, cause I was gonna get a pearly gates for the neck but now I think I’m just gonna keep it this way.
I thought the neck was the or of phase pickup? The quack sound came from the neck not bridge. So thats why im co fused to why your adjusting volume for bridge rather neck pickup.
Gregory Kochory could make a Hello Kitty guitar sound amazing. Love this vid. As a long time lover of Greenie's stuff I always want to hear other player's take on him. The odd thing about Peter Green is that after he returned from self imposed exile he began to play only Strats. All the video I have of Peter Green's Splinter Group are with Strat. I read somewhere, years ago, where he made a comment (paraphrasing) "you can't play blues with a Led Paul". Obviously he proved otherwise back in the day.
Thanks for the entertaining story Greg! My favorite Peter Green era F.M. song is, "The Green Manalishi (With the Two Prong Crown)" The Live Judas Priest version, with dual guitar solos, is the best!
I have a ZZ Top bootleg concert from around the time Rio Grande Mud came out, you can clearly hear Billy Gibbons using the Peter Green tone. I put Brown Sugar up on UA-cam and you can clearly hear it on that song and on Just Got Back From Baby’s as well.
I think the out of phase thing is more pronounced when you flip the magnets because you alter the sound of the pickup you take apart, just a bit. Taking the cover off, unscrewing the bobbin and baseplate, and putting it all back together could definitely change it a bit. Just taking a cover off and putting it back on could make a difference.
I bought an old ES340 decades ago, and the guy who owned it before me had reversed the front pickup like this. That sound can be useful, but it's not a world I'd want to live in all the time. I soon turned it back around.
Green's"comeback" album (of sorts) is really a wonderful record, playing and singing-wise. "In The Skies" was released in the very late '70s , his second solo record and it's well-worth checking out.
if you do the magnet flip can you switch it in and out of phase? assume not. I want to do this to my R8, i think i'll just do the wiring version with a push pull pot
You can switch in- and out-of-phase with a push-pull; switch. Best way is to reverse the magnet and use the switch to swap phase from o-o-ph to i-ph that way. This is because magnetic o-o-ph produces a diff sound than achieving it by swapping just wires. But you may not even need a switch, as simply backing off one of the Vol pots gets rid of the o-o-ph sound.
Turning the magnet inside the pickup is the same as reversing the wiring, it makes the pickup electrically out of phase with the other pickup. Turning the whole pickup without reversing the wiring or actually reversing the magnet inside the pickup does nothing, still in phase.
There's a Fleetwood Mac documentary on UA-cam somewhere that goes into more detail. But I remember Mick Fleetwood telling this story about this creepy party at a castle in Germany. The people there worshiped Peter Green. But, someone dosed Peter's drink with a ton of LSD. That's why he fell apart. At least that's what Mick says. He was still angry about it all these years later. Also, here is a great documentary about the actual guitar. ua-cam.com/video/UHOdXWLrxPk/v-deo.html It's a great listen with cool stories and wonderful sound samples.
I think the doc you are referring to is titled Peter Green: Man of the World (broadcast on the BBC). Apparently that incident in Germany also led to Danny Kirwan experiencing episodes of serious mental illness.
Yeah... Very creepy story. The reverse neck pickup is actually an accident. The guitar went to a repair shop and returned that way. Peter Green tried it and decided to keep it this way. Just like that... For those who don't know, Peter Green is the composer of Black Magic Woman played thousands of times by Santana.
Those Avantgarde Assholes from Munich are all nutcases, they believed to be something special but they were just freaks. The whole 68’ mao-communist Sympathisants are all fucked up nutcases and fucking losers.
I have the vintage v100pglm, a pretty good representation of the Greenymoore. Good weight to it, frets were well done, pickups were great. Always loved this guitar and for a while it's been in the spare room, after I heard of his passing I brought it out and played it through my '57 fender champ clone. F#&k me it sounded so damn good through that amp, and for a brief, brief moment in time I was a bluesbreaker, the tone so perfect.
Matthew, I know nothing about guitars but would like to know did Peter partake in his guitar having a different setup or did he just buy a guitar that had a "out of phase pickup "? Did Peter have to learn to adjust his playing due to a manufacturing mistake? Thanks to anyone who can help.
@@davidbeckerich there are some differing stories about this, the guitar is a legend really, as much as it's previous owners. One story is that Peter was doing some work on it and got the wires mixed up when he reassembled it but the other story, and evidence points to this being true, is that it was a factory mistake. One reason being is that Seymour Duncan I believe (a big name in pickup manufacturing amongst other things) I could be wrong but it was someone considered an expert, has inspected the guitar and believes the solder joints holding the pickups cover to the baseplate are original and untampered with plus the fact that other Les Pauls with the same 'feature' are out there and are known to be factory faults, I think Joe Bonamassa has one
If you're not too set on a Gibson with the out-of-phase wiring, Epiphone has their Les Paul Custom Pro, that comes with coil-tapping on both p'ups, via push-pull volume knobs, plus the out-of-phase feature, via the neck p'up tone knob, & it's less than $700... Peter Green was also in the Brunning Sunflower Band; here's a number that he did with them that really shows his playing & singing skills--> ua-cam.com/video/K_GYy7Zfiig/v-deo.html
Now that the Peter Green "Greeny" Epiphone Les Paul with GIBSON pickups (same as they use in CS Greeny) is going down on the used market, getting one for about $1,000 is well worth it. I like it ever more than the '59 Epi with custom buckers (and no OOP).............cheers to the Maestro Greenbaum!
During a domestic acquisition guitar battle with the spouse " Peter Green tone" can be used as your mic dropper statement. Her/His head will spin even more around than it already was during the initial fight.
A huge part but seldom discussed part of this tone was that fifties PAF Humbuckers were meant to emulate the tone of the single coil alnico pickups Gibson had been using since that's what Les Paul himself favored, he wanted that twang. The Alnico pickup itself was based on the DeArmond Dynasonic which Les Paul fitted to his Gold tops since he hated that fat, raunchy sound of the P-90 (Go figure) A very good example of the sound of a PAF Humbucker Les Paul can be found on "Rolling Rock" by the Tielman Brothers, it's a live performance and lead Guitarist Andy Tielman just rips away. But it was when Eric Clapton found out that if you took the covers off, that the PAF all of a sudden started to sound fatter that many PAF's were torn apart and the original twang they had was deemed an unusable sound. But for Peter Green it was just what he was looking for, those leads on for example "Jumping at Shadows" and "A fool no more" showcase how bright and clear the PAF's of his Les Paul sounded. With Gary Moore, the guitar is showcased on his blues version of "Don't believe a word" and it's also the guitar he used on "Parisian walkways" When Kirk Hammett bought the guitar he said that he was surprised that it sounded "Like a strat" when he plugged it in and had a go at it. But he also expressed that that guitar already had that tone when played without an amp. That tone is the voice of that guitar. As for why the guitar didn't end up back with Peter Green after Gary Moore died, they offered it back to him but Green refused, saying "God no, look at the state that thing is in!" Green isn't a sucker for the relic look.
I hate the out of phase sounds on single coil guitars, which are just to thin, lacking bass, and too low output to be giggable with anything other than searing distortion to make up for those issues, but... with humbuckers... the sound is useful and giggable... especially with Gibson type four knob controls... even clean tone minus much overdrive or distortion thickening.
shoot he doesn't know about the out of phase function...when the pickups are full volume in the middle position, they cancel out some frequencies(because the neck is reversed), then when you adust either volume you take it out of the "out of phase" realm, so there is no canceling of freq's and you're back to normal that's why it gets louder because which ever pickup is full volume takes over and is louder because no freq cuttings.
There's a famous quote from BB King: "He has the sweetest tone I ever heard; he was the only one who gave me the cold sweats." He's the best blues singer and guitar player the UK's ever produced.
there's a lot of quotes that have attained legendary status that don't mean a thing, for instance, allegedly, Jimi Hendrix said something like, billy gibbons is the greatest - whatever, just cause hendrix said it doesn't mean it's true, or that he even said it in the first place, and secondly, billy gibbons is a dime a dozen player, famous and rich, yes, but there's nothing legendary about his playing. Long story longer, point is, if BB said that, cool, doesn't mean he's correct or if that's exactly what he said or meant. P.S. I love PG 's playing, just making a point about famous quotes.
t a Jimmy wasn't talking about Billy Gibbons, he was talking about Rory Gallagher ..... and he was fucking right.
I wrote, JIMI, not Jimmy, and you missed the point, that being, there's a whole lot of quotes about who said what about whom and most are 100% fiction. Whether JIMMY somebody said something about Rory Gallagher. who knows, probably BS like the JIMI Hendrix quotes... Jimi was a notoriously nice man who said great things about EVERY guitarist he'd met, are they true, most likely NOT.
t a you have a point,even though I loved Peter greens Fleetwood mac material,even Bb King's opinion is subjective and I believe that Danny did most of the heavy lifting in the band and Peter played mainly rhythm and a bit of lead here and there,although his playing on the Supernatural imo is stunning,worth a listen if anyone hasn't heard it.
thanks, we agree. Talking ANYTHING guitar players gets everyone effin crazy! It's not about who's technically the best, or who's tone is perfect, etc., IT'S ABOUT WHATEVER A PERSON LIKES, just because someone likes Clapton or Alvin Lee or WHOEVER does not mean anyone else isn't worthy of admiration. Peace.
Peter Green is still IMO the best blues/ blues rock player to come out of the UK, and one of the best of all time easily. Clapton was great and can still do it, but to my ears every note that Peter Green put on record meant something, and was full of substance and pure emotion. Just a phenomenal musician.... Greg is spot on here, this tone is totally usable, but you have to do some tweaking to get it right and to keep the sound from being too thin and hollow. You can get this mod with any dual humbucker equipped guitar, but the best way to do it is with a set of pickups wired out of phase like a BK PG Blues or Seymour Greeny set where the neck pickup is wired out of phase with the bridge. Or for maximum versatility try the Jimmy Page mod with a DPDT push pull pot so you can have both in phase and out of phase sounds. As someone who uses this sound almost exclusively, I would not simply flip the magnet in the neck humbucker-- there is an incredible loss of power in the middle position when you do this that makes the guitar a pain to use more than anything. Great vid Wildwood, thanks!
All the tones are totally useable. I have the vintage v100pglm, the pickups are out of phase like the original. I played it for a few gigs in my band years ago, I usually used a gould 3 pickup Les Paul. Some members of another band came up to me after a show I had used the Greenymoore on and told me I sounded so much better during that show
Unfortunately we just lost him and it’s a sad day for all Peter Green’s music lovers. But what a legacy!
Peter Green's playing on 'The Supernatural' on the Bluesbreakers A Hard Road album - holy crap! When someone is talking British blues of that era and they say Beck/Clapton/Page but Green should always be included.
Peter Green---my all time favourite player. To "refine" the out of phase sound even more twiddle(technical term)the tone controls as well as the volumes.
A peter green video such as this one was long overdue! Bravo!
03:38 "for those of you who don't know who Peter Green was" Peter Green IS :o)
to be fair the peter green today is not the peter green of the 60's.
LMAO he dead now
@@SponchHour and yet you're still alive, Americans might not do irony but it seems god does
A guy who lives near me grew up around Mr Green because his Dad was part of Peter’s scene. He was given a signed Strat by him just because he liked it. I’ve played that strat in his studio and it is his pride and joy. What a wonderful gentle lovely amazing brilliant man. Btw any R9 Lemon burst rewired will do that tone and look the biz
The supernatural, jumping at shadows, green manelishi, oh, well part 1and part 2 , rattlesnake shake , and the original black magic woman plus many other mighty fine tracks oh my
Now I know a guy his name is Mick / He don't care if he's got no chick
He does the shake / The Rattlesnake Shake
Saw them several times at The Tea Party, Boston MA., 1969-70. Greenie
and the boys were truly an iconic blues band in the early days. The Mac
has the most interesting history of any band, ever. The changes they
went through from 1967 til today make for a great story. And the music
has remained top notch through every iteration. I do love the original
band most, but also what they became and still are - a great band with
great songs and the ability to inspire a large cross section of music
lovers. It is a testimony to what talent and a "Then Play On" attitude can
achieve.
Peter A. Green a genius with no sense of self! A tone to die for, a touch so subtle and amazing vibrato! Less is more! That voice, totally heartfelt and genuine! After he joined the blues breaker's and Clapton is God appearing on walls around London, The Green God could b seen!
Well done that man. Great performance. Peter would have been proud of you.
I saw "Wildwood Story Time", I clicked thumbs up.
Peter was a legendary soulful player and singer. It saddens me to think what he could’ve accomplished had he not taken the hard drugs and subsequent psychotherapy.
Thank goodness we have Gregory to listen to!
How precisely are you defining 'hard drugs'?
The guy had schizophrenia. LSD or no he still would have collapsed into schizophrenia.....he was always on borrowed time.
Krausewitz the story goes on the infamous trip to Germany he either had bad lsd or heroin. Yes he was burning the candle at both ends, I agree. Just pointing out that his musical ability was taken away much too soon.
There are great amazing guitar players all over the place that go undiscovered or unappreciated or lose their minds to drugs, much more so than PG. He is fortunate to be the legend he is, just not as fortunate as some. If he wanted to be Hendrix, he would have to off himself.
Krausewitz The guy HAS schizophrenia. And he didn’t have it before he went off with some VERY dodgy Germans who plied him with some very dodgy LSD. Both Mick Fleetwood and John McVie say the mental illness is down to those creepy Krauts. Schizophrenia does not always manifest itself, but certain drugs like LSD and skunk cannabis can trigger the illness in those with a genetic risk.
man... we all missssss.
Gristle and Greeny.....nice combo.
Yes, Gary Moore owned it ‘for a while’. Just 34 years. 9 2208 will forever be Moore/Green’s Burst, even the name ‘Greeny’ was given by Gary. ‘Shame on you!’ (Cit.)
That guitar is Gary's 100%
@@vhsreclaimed1998 Gary " acquired " it from a very mentally troubled Peter Green , it's Greens , it was always Greens and will always be Greens .
Thank you for doing what you do 😁
Out of phase is only the beginning. The tone comes from certain frequencies cancelling from combining the two pickups, for which the individual levels would need to be the same. That’s why the resulting tone is so dependent on the settings of the volume and tone controls.
Thanks for the great storytelling Greg. Cool stuff.
I have a les paul special that I reversed the wiring on p-90's to get out of phase tone, also Hubert had that great tone
I had the good fortune of seeing the original Fleetwood Mac, fronted by Peter Green, in 1969. In Houston, TX. Featured Green, Mick F., John McVie, Danny Kirwin, and Jeremy Spencer. Front row seats. Very hard driving, blues-oriented, as I recall. Spaced tightly together on stage as was the practice then.
Greg is a top dude and talks as well as he plays,
Yes! It was instructive and compellingly interesting Greg, thanks so much!
Such a lovely guitar with a chilling story. Thank for sharing Greg.
Love this man's musicianship and craziness!
Green Manaleshi that burst sounds great I heard Greenie and did not care for it
but I did not get to hear either tone in middle pos lowered as shown here that sound is instantly recognizable in the right hands of course... Well played .
I love all the piggery- jokery in these videos but most of all I love the pure joy of Mr Greg's skill on the guitar!
If you watch old videos of Peter playing his 59 pay close attention to how his pickups are adjusted . The base side is adjusted down into the pickup rings . The trebble side are adjusted up over the rings . Remember 59 rings were really tall especially on the bridge position.
I learned about the pickup adjustment on another channel from a real Peter Green fan . He also showed his amp settings and they were pretty much cranked all the way .
Missed these story time with Greg videos.
Awesome! So funny and so great!
My SG Special came from the factory with the bridge pickup’s magnets installed backwards. So the pickups are out of phase. I use this sound a lot, with one or the other pickup’s vol rolled back a little as Greg demos here. Huge amount of tonal versatility! Add the tone pots into the mix and the variety is even greater.
Someone, what's the Peter Green solo Greg plays at 5:13 in the clip? Of course I've heard it before, and I'd like to know what it's called. Thanks so much.
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fabulous! love the history and how greg explains,dramatizes it!- love peter, love greg,say no more!....except...do more like this...short sweet, and fun....like greg....except the short bit!! :-))
I accidentally wired my telestyle guitar with a humbucker in the neck and single coil in the bridge when I replaced the pickups now I get that out of phase sound in the middle position with both pickups. After watching this video I may just leave it as it is Thanks for posting this vid
The original name of the band was Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac.
Actually no. The first album was printed with ‘Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac’ on it without Peters permission, and he got mad at the record company and demanded they remove it. The band was always just Fleetwood Mac.
@@thomasplatt7329 Thanks for the correction! In any case, I loved them then and now.
Lately all the Lester vids have been sounding like a Squier Telecaster with .008s through a transistor radio.
Well all you have to do is pick 1 pickup or the other and switch to it. Problem solved buddy.
A Les Paul can be subtle as well.
Peter green was? I'm hoping he's still with us,yeah I get you totally on the out of phase les Paul sound,I had my les Paul modded in the shop to get that sound and I love it,you do lose some volume on that middle position but just crank the amp up a little more
I wonder what happens in the middle position when you turn down slightly the neck pickup volume (rather than lowering the bridge pickup volume)?
I am a big fan of Peter Green but the undisputed fact is that Freddie King used the « Peter Green » (Gibson out of phase) sound way before Peter Green did!
I flip magnets on all my LP neck PUs I love that "honk" it has .. R.I.P to the greatest EVER!..
would love to see the new tele and les paul!
Thanks Guys! I'm hip to this tone. I wasn't for most of my life until last year, I put a Golden Age overwound open coil humbucker in the bridge position of my Les Paul and for looks I stuck a really old Schaller open coil humbucker in the neck (from my old Kramer) To my dismay, It sounded exactly like this; and my ears were finally opened to the out of phase tone. Even though I've heard it on Albert King records I didn't know what it was. I also heard that in the old days a Flying V, Les Paul or Explorer would come off the line in Kalamazoo with one of humbucker magnets reversed and it was a bonus because it had that sound by mistake and people caught on to it.
Albatross was the neck pickup on a Strat, not a Les Paul..!
I have no idea why people hate this sound so much. I remember when I accidentally wired humbuckers out-of-phase, I was confused for a little bit, and then I was in love.
I've modded 3 of my axes hard-wired for out of phase in middle position. I just like it so much I don't even care about adding an extra switch to toggle between stock and the mod.
@@OmicronTauKappaClassicDaddy yeah man plus the middle position on an HH guitar when its in phase is just not that great of a tone. I normally just use bridge or neck by themselves. Out of phase in the middle just gives you a great way to cut all that bass and power at the flick of a switch. One way I really like to use it is to cut the power at the end of a hard rock song rather than a traditional fade out. Makes for an interesting outro. Almost sounds like a compression effect.
Actually, Fleetwood Mac was originally called "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring Jeremy Spencer", so that every members name was in the band name.
Greg keeps saying "Peter Green was" Peter Green is still alive and is still a monster
RIP
Love this guy. You just know he double clicks the tongs at a BBQ and sings up a storm
Green was the BEST British Bluesman of that era, the 60's.... All those who became legends then cannot hold a candlel to Green's perfect tone and timing... granted, that guitar was a part of it, but it's his timing, phrasing, his humble soul, the human element, that truly sets him apart from the others.
Unfortunately, Peter did not age well. He was a sensitive man, a troubled soul, got into drugs, a lot of drugs, to insulate himself from society, and he fried something. So sad.
Gary Moore, who worshiped Green, not only played that guitar, but carried the Green torch, his soul went wirh the instrument when Gary got it. Moore's album, Blues for Greenie, is a masterpiece, and a hell of a tribute to Peter. Buy it.
I have yet to hear Hammett on it. I guess it's time to search YT.
That guitar, and Marty Stuart's Tele, are holy grail guitars to me. There's so much history in those instruments.
Several manufacturers offer Greenie pickups. I will be building one....no doubt... a B-bender Tele too.
I like the J. Page option with a push pull. Great video. Thanks.
I just discovered that first real guitar is out of phase. It’s a 1993 Epiphone Les Paul mom got me new when i was 13. It came with decent humbuckers and by 95 or 96 i put in a George Lynch Screamin Demon in the bridge because i liked that juicy PAF sound and it didn’t cost me a lot. So I abandoned the Epi LP in favor for a Mexican Strat by 1998 and many other guitars followed throughout the last 30 years but i always kept the Epi at moms house. Always in a hard shell case and always laying down flat. I visited mom the other day and dug it out and brought it home and found it was out of phase in the middle after noticing the volume was lower in the middle than in neck and bridge pickups individually. So I hit up google and it’s a common occurring accident when people swap out just one stock pickup out of older LP style Asian guitars like my Korean Epi. Reason given is because whoever wound the stock pups , wound them in the opposite direction than the aftermarket pickup you just installed is. Funny, cause I was gonna get a pearly gates for the neck but now I think I’m just gonna keep it this way.
I thought the neck was the or of phase pickup? The quack sound came from the neck not bridge. So thats why im co fused to why your adjusting volume for bridge rather neck pickup.
Puupenschmellin?
Sick video!
When you back off the treble a bit it almost sounds like a P90.
My 2007 epiphone ltd edition Les Paul is magnetically out of phase and I always use this sound
Gregory Kochory could make a Hello Kitty guitar sound amazing. Love this vid. As a long time lover of Greenie's stuff I always want to hear other player's take on him. The odd thing about Peter Green is that after he returned from self imposed exile he began to play only Strats. All the video I have of Peter Green's Splinter Group are with Strat. I read somewhere, years ago, where he made a comment (paraphrasing) "you can't play blues with a Led Paul". Obviously he proved otherwise back in the day.
Ive learned alot about greenie years ago...etc.. he is one lf the best...
So too kinda sum it up in order to achieve his out of phase tone just roll the bridge volume a bit higher then neck in middle position?
Thanks for the entertaining story
Greg! My favorite Peter Green era
F.M. song is, "The Green Manalishi (With the Two Prong Crown)"
The Live Judas Priest version,
with dual guitar solos, is the best!
I have a ZZ Top bootleg concert from around the time Rio Grande Mud came out, you can clearly hear Billy Gibbons using the Peter Green tone. I put Brown Sugar up on UA-cam and you can clearly hear it on that song and on Just Got Back From Baby’s as well.
Finally!
Peter and Eric!!! 😊🥲👍
Beautiful axe! Nice playing too. 👍
This dude is the best
Hey Greg, where’d you get that nifty hat?
This guy's a hoot. Wish I lived close by so we could pal around. And play guitars. Lol Larry in S.C.
I think the out of phase thing is more pronounced when you flip the magnets because you alter the sound of the pickup you take apart, just a bit. Taking the cover off, unscrewing the bobbin and baseplate, and putting it all back together could definitely change it a bit. Just taking a cover off and putting it back on could make a difference.
I bought an old ES340 decades ago, and the guy who owned it before me had reversed the front pickup like this. That sound can be useful, but it's not a world I'd want to live in all the time. I soon turned it back around.
Green's"comeback" album (of sorts) is really a wonderful record, playing and singing-wise. "In The Skies" was released in the very late '70s , his second solo record and it's well-worth checking out.
Indeeeedio. Both Apostle and Proud Pinto are fabulous.
if you do the magnet flip can you switch it in and out of phase? assume not. I want to do this to my R8, i think i'll just do the wiring version with a push pull pot
You can switch in- and out-of-phase with a push-pull; switch. Best way is to reverse the magnet and use the switch to swap phase from o-o-ph to i-ph that way. This is because magnetic o-o-ph produces a diff sound than achieving it by swapping just wires. But you may not even need a switch, as simply backing off one of the Vol pots gets rid of the o-o-ph sound.
Is, not was, Kochery. PG ain't dead yet o.O
Sadly, have you seen him live ? The other guitarist plays all the tasty stuff
I love him, but he's pretty much brain dead after his drug battle
No, he's lucid. Just can't perform well anymore.
Turning the magnet inside the pickup is the same as reversing the wiring, it makes the pickup electrically out of phase with the other pickup. Turning the whole pickup without reversing the wiring or actually reversing the magnet inside the pickup does nothing, still in phase.
"All words are made up."
---The Mighty Thor
The Green God!
Never give up a good guitar
We made Peter Green a household word....
There's a Fleetwood Mac documentary on UA-cam somewhere that goes into more detail. But I remember Mick Fleetwood telling this story about this creepy party at a castle in Germany. The people there worshiped Peter Green. But, someone dosed Peter's drink with a ton of LSD. That's why he fell apart. At least that's what Mick says. He was still angry about it all these years later.
Also, here is a great documentary about the actual guitar. ua-cam.com/video/UHOdXWLrxPk/v-deo.html
It's a great listen with cool stories and wonderful sound samples.
I think the doc you are referring to is titled Peter Green: Man of the World (broadcast on the BBC). Apparently that incident in Germany also led to Danny Kirwan experiencing episodes of serious mental illness.
Yeah... Very creepy story.
The reverse neck pickup is actually an accident. The guitar went to a repair shop and returned that way. Peter Green tried it and decided to keep it this way. Just like that...
For those who don't know, Peter Green is the composer of Black Magic Woman played thousands of times by Santana.
That’s largely a myth. He was already showing signs of schizophrenia well before then
Those Avantgarde Assholes from Munich are all nutcases, they believed to be something special but they were just freaks. The whole 68’ mao-communist Sympathisants are all fucked up nutcases and fucking losers.
Had a buddy that bought a caboose, moved it to a hilltop and
started to build an Ark. LSD daily
I have the vintage v100pglm, a pretty good representation of the Greenymoore. Good weight to it, frets were well done, pickups were great. Always loved this guitar and for a while it's been in the spare room, after I heard of his passing I brought it out and played it through my '57 fender champ clone. F#&k me it sounded so damn good through that amp, and for a brief, brief moment in time I was a bluesbreaker, the tone so perfect.
Matthew, I know nothing about guitars but would like to know did Peter partake in his guitar having a different setup or did he just buy a guitar that had a "out of phase pickup "? Did Peter have to learn to adjust his playing due to a manufacturing mistake? Thanks to anyone who can help.
@@davidbeckerich there are some differing stories about this, the guitar is a legend really, as much as it's previous owners. One story is that Peter was doing some work on it and got the wires mixed up when he reassembled it but the other story, and evidence points to this being true, is that it was a factory mistake. One reason being is that Seymour Duncan I believe (a big name in pickup manufacturing amongst other things) I could be wrong but it was someone considered an expert, has inspected the guitar and believes the solder joints holding the pickups cover to the baseplate are original and untampered with plus the fact that other Les Pauls with the same 'feature' are out there and are known to be factory faults, I think Joe Bonamassa has one
If you're not too set on a Gibson with the out-of-phase wiring, Epiphone has their Les Paul Custom Pro, that comes with coil-tapping on both p'ups, via push-pull volume knobs, plus the out-of-phase feature, via the neck p'up tone knob, & it's less than $700...
Peter Green was also in the Brunning Sunflower Band; here's a number that he did with them that really shows his playing & singing skills--> ua-cam.com/video/K_GYy7Zfiig/v-deo.html
Now that the Peter Green "Greeny" Epiphone Les Paul with GIBSON pickups (same as they use in CS Greeny) is going down on the used market, getting one for about $1,000 is well worth it. I like it ever more than the '59 Epi with custom buckers (and no OOP).............cheers to the Maestro Greenbaum!
Makes sense when you dial out one pup, the less phase cancellation you're gonna get.
What color is this Les Paul?
Do you need 4 conductor pickups ?
Not if you flip the magnet.
Wish someone would demo this guitar in open g with some slide too
I want an ounce of what ever he's been token on...
Get it son
If I may be so bold, Peter Green is, he isn’t “was”.
😔
2020 has taken so much from us
During a domestic acquisition guitar battle with the spouse " Peter Green tone" can be used as your mic dropper statement. Her/His head will spin even more around than it already was during the initial fight.
Did you think to give Peter Green one? He's still alive
A huge part but seldom discussed part of this tone was that fifties PAF Humbuckers were meant to emulate the tone of the single coil alnico pickups Gibson had been using since that's what Les Paul himself favored, he wanted that twang. The Alnico pickup itself was based on the DeArmond Dynasonic which Les Paul fitted to his Gold tops since he hated that fat, raunchy sound of the P-90 (Go figure) A very good example of the sound of a PAF Humbucker Les Paul can be found on "Rolling Rock" by the Tielman Brothers, it's a live performance and lead Guitarist Andy Tielman just rips away.
But it was when Eric Clapton found out that if you took the covers off, that the PAF all of a sudden started to sound fatter that many PAF's were torn apart and the original twang they had was deemed an unusable sound. But for Peter Green it was just what he was looking for, those leads on for example "Jumping at Shadows" and "A fool no more" showcase how bright and clear the PAF's of his Les Paul sounded.
With Gary Moore, the guitar is showcased on his blues version of "Don't believe a word" and it's also the guitar he used on "Parisian walkways"
When Kirk Hammett bought the guitar he said that he was surprised that it sounded "Like a strat" when he plugged it in and had a go at it. But he also expressed that that guitar already had that tone when played without an amp. That tone is the voice of that guitar.
As for why the guitar didn't end up back with Peter Green after Gary Moore died, they offered it back to him but Green refused, saying "God no, look at the state that thing is in!" Green isn't a sucker for the relic look.
Peter Green is still alive.
Surely what you're describing/exhibiting here is pickups wired ELECTRICALLY out of phase and not MAGNETICALLY ..🤔?
Who is kirt hammock?
Great video, Black Magic Woman anyone?
I hate the out of phase sounds on single coil guitars, which are just to thin, lacking bass, and too low output to be giggable with anything other than searing distortion to make up for those issues, but... with humbuckers... the sound is useful and giggable... especially with Gibson type four knob controls... even clean tone minus much overdrive or distortion thickening.
shoot he doesn't know about the out of phase function...when the pickups are full volume in the middle position, they cancel out some frequencies(because the neck is reversed), then when you adust either volume you take it out of the "out of phase" realm, so there is no canceling of freq's and you're back to normal that's why it gets louder because which ever pickup is full volume takes over and is louder because no freq cuttings.
Greg's is ilways great !!!!!
Gives it almost a Strat “quack” ?
Can you do the woman tone on this middle position?
Love Greg’s humour and his amazing playing. Ive just done this mod myself on an Ibanez artcore hollowbody and you get that sweet tone
More "Greg Koch Story Time"!