Three massive hits in England in 1967, yet only the French and the Germans could be bothered to record them for posterity at the peak of their career. Shame on the BBC and ITV networks.
There was certainly no love lost between them and the British establishment when (lifted from Wikipedia) "In a promotional stunt for the record, - typical of the band's manager Tony Secunda - a postcard was released with a cartoon of a naked then-Prime Minister Harold Wilson in bed with his secretary Marcia Williams." That derailed them somewhat.
I beg to differ about the sound quality. I think it only enhances the raw live sound of the performance. As for Carl. this is how he performed at the time. imo totally tongue in cheek and simply not taking himself too seriously. Great to see young Roy toffed up as well !! Brilliant video..Well done.
Yeah I always thought Carl was just larking about when he danced. I think he knew that sharing a stage with Ace Kefford he was going to look stupid trying to match him for 'cool' [frankly impossible] and so just enjoyed himself instead.
ma fru, you're dead right, it is pretty amazing stuff. Fiery, theatrical, aggressive (without hurting anyone), and musically dynamic. Trevor's a focal point isn't he? One hell of a band. Never the same once Ace Kefford had quit.
This, the original lineup of The Move was by far the best, great musicianship and there were four excellent vocalists in Carl Wayne, Roy Wood, Chris 'Ace the Face' Kefford and Trevor Burton. The demise of The Move started when Ace left, nobody could replace him, Trevor switched from rhythm guitar to bass, but by then The Move's magic had all but gone.
Same problem befell The Buffalo Springfield when they lost their bassist Bruce Palmer. Another promising band that bit the dust but led to other big things just like the move did...
Wikipedia: "The tapes were stolen from their agent's car when it was parked in Denmark Street, London.[8] The tapes were found in a skip (dumpster) shortly afterward, but the damage caused to them meant that new mixes and masters would have to be made" The band was sabotaged by an unknown group or person. On their debut album.
They definitely lost something, but more amazing to me was how great a job Trevor did taking over bass duties. *Something Else From The Move* rocked like hell, with some great covers, and great bass work, and they still put out many great records.
Demise? I think not. I loved the original Move, but the later move was great too, and so sophisticated. The brilliant Jeff Lynne was no slouch. He added a lot.
When my father visited Britain, he saw them play with Hendrix, Floyd, and the Bonzos. He was blown away by the Move (Hendrix jammed with them some during the show), but when he went back to the American South, he couldn't find any of their records.
@@fredbrowning1993 Trevor and Jimi were good mates, Jimi's hard rock style of music was one of the reasons that Trevor decided to leave The Move, he'd gotten fed up with Roy Wood's dominance in the songwriting of chart singles. Trev wanted to play the blues like B B King etc.
What a band! ClosestI I got to seeing them was when Trevor and Bev teamed up about 8 years ago. They were still great to watch. Met them before the gig and they were happy to sign my Move ep.
I think the Move always had a huge bass guitar sound. Especially for the era. I guess the problem is that they were too 'pop' a band to be a valid rock band in the eye of the public.
They didn't call Christopher John Kefford "Ace" for nothing, he was an excellent bassist and vocalist and his stage presence outshone the other members of the band. Chris and Trevor founded The Move after taking the advice from Davy Jones (later David Bowie) to get the best young musicians in Birmingham together and form a Brum supergroup.
Indeed , they became too poppy for me. Only loved this one and "Night Of Fear". They became sort of a heavy Beach Boys. Funny radio pop , but not worth shelling out my paper round earnings for when there were Stones, Hendrix and Pretty Things records to choose from .
No sh*t Ace was a nasty bassist and great singer. Half mad though! That frikken tone is tops, like The Ox. He had a great band with the Ball Brothers and Cozy Powell, they just didn't make it?
Agree. Ace was the embodiment of a real rock star. Along with Trevor Burton, they made The Move look positively dangerous. What a great rock band with the original line up, once Ace left it was all downhill for them.
Filmed for french Tv show "Age tendre et Tête de bois" (young age and wooden head) that was a kind of "Top of the Pops" of the 60's, where all the young french performers appeared ( Johnny Halliday, Sylvie Vartan, Françoise Hardy and the rest ) alongside the very first french rock and roll bands; so the producer was maybe more used to filming one singer than a band ! At the end you hear the host Albert Raisner.
You are insane. Nobody could've sang the Move songs like he did. Not even Roy Wood. Carl Wayne is one of the greatest singers of the era. The Move never got bigger because they never played more than 5 shows in the U.S. Nobody in this country even heard of them in their time.
"Les Move" LOL!! I've always thought they were really emulating The Who with this tune. The vocalist prancing like Daltrey, the bass sounding like Entwistle.
Roy Wood was a handsome chap back in 1967, after that he started with a Groucho-mask thing and still pretty much is a caricature. He reminded me a bit of Malcolm MacLaren back then. Why did he think he had to add 5 kilos of hair, glasses, moustaches, beards and zany threads? Only a genius like Roy knows.
Fantastic! So many British chart bands were not as good keeping time and maintaining a great sound live. It’s an obvious requirement but takes practice and a sense of professional discipline.The Beatles were the masters, but the Stones couldn’t even keep time on the record.
La prise de son est mauvaise mais le groupe excellent . Souvenirs de mes 14 ans et j'en ai 67 aujourd'hui . Et toujours autant de plaisir d'écouter les Move . NORBERT .
It was Chris 'Ace' Kefford who had the genuine 'moves' onstage. But what th'hell do I know..I was 6 yrs old but think these bands are fab today...2018.
Just don't pick Wayne. He was a real embarrassment. Just feel fortunate that Woody took over lead vocals. Just don't pick Wayne. Always an embarrassment. Just feel fortunate that Woody took over lead vocals and kicked that cabaret singer into touch,
Wikipedia: "The tapes were stolen from their agent's car when it was parked in Denmark Street, London.[8] The tapes were found in a skip (dumpster) shortly afterward, but the damage caused to them meant that new mixes and masters would have to be made" The band was sabotaged by an unknown group or person. On their debut album.
Great band. Carl Wayne always looked too self conscious, which is possibly why he moved to the cabaret circuit. By '67 the Move were trapped in middle ground once Cream and Hendrix arrived. Musically they were credible, but they were a 'chart band'. With Shazam they got heavier and extended tunes. But that fine album was too little too late. When they lost Kefford they lost a key vocal element and stage presence. Burton was great on bass (try the 'Something Else' ep), but the magic was gone.
you guys can make fun of Carl’s dancing, but those were the hottest dance moves at the time. There’s another performance that night with gogo dancers doing the exact moves Carl is doing. Throwing their arms in the air and everything. 💃💃💃💃🕺
As someone else commented in response to my comment: 'The Move had two problems. One was their campy, over-the-top douchebag lead singer...'. While that may overstate the matter, in this particular video Carl looks at a bit of a loss for what to do, thus the rather silly moves (pardon the pun) and me saying he appeared self conscious. In other vids (and I grew up with this stuff) he's quite normal, with just a bit of finger snapping or whatever.
You're dead right there godsmonkey. The Carl Wayne fixation during the 2nd half of the song ruined the visuals, and obviously the sound relayed by the TV company was not a great asset in terms of audio production. Still, it could have been worse (re: the visuals) - look what Tony Palmer did to Cream's '68 farewell concert.
Rodger was doing those moves in 1964, so I think it's the other way 'round! The Move OBVIOUSLY were WHO fans... just ask them. (by the way, Rodger stole his moves from James Brown) (at least when he was still standing in front of the mike stand) (Buck Dancing)
Yeah, the concept was getting Brummie players together and to put a "Who-type" band on, they did a lot more than what they intended, they actually ended up being a "Move-type" band in the process.
I don't think that Carl is acting THAT bad. He's a lead singer(without a guitar or harmonica)...what's he SUPPOSED to do? I think Roger Daltrey "snagged" some of his moves actually.
The cameraman is not very good. The Move is fantastic as a multi-vocal band. In many moments, British freakbeat, the mod bands that started to transition to psychedelia and the North American garage bands are so close... This is one of those moments.
I absolutely love the Move, but Carl Wayne's poncing about (not great to speak ill of the dead) was the reason they never really got big, no need for all that dad dancing! I love Trevor though, his bass playing, lol! And Ace.. But Roy should have been lead singer, he looks so cute at the back, not sure about the dicky bow though..
The technology wasn't up to spark back in '67 so no good blaming the audio engineer. Most televised performances of live bands in the 60's simply couldn't capture the full spectrum of sound that audiences would have heard in the actual venue (studio/concert hall etc.).
Such a pity what happened to ace.....
Three massive hits in England in 1967, yet only the French and the Germans could be bothered to record them for posterity at the peak of their career. Shame on the BBC and ITV networks.
Too right
Excellent comment.
They probably wiped them out and reused the video tape. So many classics lost in this way. Ie, classic Doctor Who episodes etc
There was certainly no love lost between them and the British establishment when (lifted from Wikipedia) "In a promotional stunt for the record, - typical of the band's manager Tony Secunda - a postcard was released with a cartoon of a naked then-Prime Minister Harold Wilson in bed with his secretary Marcia Williams." That derailed them somewhat.
I've never seen a bass player groove as much as Ace Kefford. Most of them stand quite static but he gets right into it. Love this song.
Ace Kefford was awesome! Bruce Foxton on the Jam was also a really animated bassist.
That was a crazy good performance. Love their energy! An actual live one too and not mimed! Classic!
Wow ! ....how cool they were......The classic line-up with Ace Kefford.
WOW! Never saw this before and I'm as big a Move/ELO fan as they come. Carl Wayne!!! R.I.P.
Those lucky people in that French audience. I hope they still remember it fondly.
You guys are complaining about this as if we've seen a lot of the Move live on TV. Pretty amazing stuff if you ask me.
Agreed! what a great group
I beg to differ about the sound quality.
I think it only enhances the raw live sound of the performance.
As for Carl. this is how he performed at the time. imo totally tongue in cheek and simply not taking himself too seriously.
Great to see young Roy toffed up as well !!
Brilliant video..Well done.
Yeah I always thought Carl was just larking about when he danced. I think he knew that sharing a stage with Ace Kefford he was going to look stupid trying to match him for 'cool' [frankly impossible] and so just enjoyed himself instead.
ma fru, you're dead right, it is pretty amazing stuff. Fiery, theatrical, aggressive (without hurting anyone), and musically dynamic. Trevor's a focal point isn't he? One hell of a band. Never the same once Ace Kefford had quit.
This, the original lineup of The Move was by far the best, great musicianship and there were four excellent vocalists in Carl Wayne, Roy Wood, Chris 'Ace the Face' Kefford and Trevor Burton. The demise of The Move started when Ace left, nobody could replace him, Trevor switched from rhythm guitar to bass, but by then The Move's magic had all but gone.
Same problem befell The Buffalo Springfield when they lost their bassist Bruce Palmer. Another promising band that bit the dust but led to other big things just like the move did...
It's typical that the band is never the same. Rarely change in the group makes for better, esp if they've been together for a few years.
Wikipedia: "The tapes were stolen from their agent's car when it was parked in Denmark Street, London.[8] The tapes were found in a skip (dumpster) shortly afterward, but the damage caused to them meant that new mixes and masters would have to be made"
The band was sabotaged by an unknown group or person. On their debut album.
They definitely lost something, but more amazing to me was how great a job Trevor did taking over bass duties. *Something Else From The Move* rocked like hell, with some great covers, and great bass work, and they still put out many great records.
Demise? I think not.
I loved the original Move, but the later move was great too, and so sophisticated. The brilliant Jeff Lynne was no slouch. He added a lot.
Roy Wood buried in the background.
Carl Wayne's movements and facial expressions are unintentionally hilarious, and turn this into a comedy performance!
He was the reason the weren't as big as they should have been.Not a good idea to have the worst looking member of a good looking band as front man
When my father visited Britain, he saw them play with Hendrix, Floyd, and the Bonzos. He was blown away by the Move (Hendrix jammed with them some during the show), but when he went back to the American South, he couldn't find any of their records.
I Believe Trevor Burton Jimi Hendrix back to brum one time and took him clubbing in birmingham.
@@fredbrowning1993 Trevor and Jimi were good mates, Jimi's hard rock style of music was one of the reasons that Trevor decided to leave The Move, he'd gotten fed up with Roy Wood's dominance in the songwriting of chart singles. Trev wanted to play the blues like B B King etc.
Energy and aggression barely contained.Ace Kefford had a great stage presence. Especially love the original line here.
What a band! ClosestI I got to seeing them was when Trevor and Bev teamed up about 8 years ago. They were still great to watch. Met them before the gig and they were happy to sign my Move ep.
Bloody marvelous.
It was didnt realize when i was 16 in 1966 they were high as kites lol❤
Some serious rockstar turns by Ace & Trev!
Nice to see this early incarnation of the band. Thanks for posting.
I was 13 and saw them live in Holland 1967, so great, this song too, thanks for sharing
You were very lucky indeed ,, I was same age as you , back in 67 , all I had was a transistor to listen of music that great era ,
I think there was more than just grass growing shortly before this was recorded!
Great band by the way.
This song became the group's second hit single. It reached Number 5 in the UK and Number 21 in Ireland in May 1967.
Thanks for uploading - I still listen to these guys - Shazam my favorite
This is awesome...The lesson to be learned here is be really good, play well and have a sense of humor
I think the Move always had a huge bass guitar sound. Especially for the era. I guess the problem is that they were too 'pop' a band to be a valid rock band in the eye of the public.
They didn't call Christopher John Kefford "Ace" for nothing, he was an excellent bassist and vocalist and his stage presence outshone the other members of the band. Chris and Trevor founded The Move after taking the advice from Davy Jones (later David Bowie) to get the best young musicians in Birmingham together and form a Brum supergroup.
Indeed , they became too poppy for me. Only loved this one and "Night Of Fear".
They became sort of a heavy Beach Boys. Funny radio pop , but not worth shelling out my paper round earnings for when there were Stones, Hendrix and Pretty Things records to choose from .
no one rocks looks plays or moves as cool as ace kefford
no sorry
No sh*t Ace was a nasty bassist and great singer. Half mad though! That frikken tone is tops, like The Ox. He had a great band with the Ball Brothers and Cozy Powell, they just didn't make it?
He had great fashion sense for sure.
Pity Wayne was always a dick.
Agree. Ace was the embodiment of a real rock star. Along with Trevor Burton, they made The Move look positively dangerous. What a great rock band with the original line up, once Ace left it was all downhill for them.
Great Band..Carl Wayne Great front man
Great band, Wayne was crap.
by pure chance, I got his autograph
Y donde dejan la juventud y talento del Gran Jeff Lynne👍🏻👏🏻👍🏻👏🏻🎵🎶🎼🎤
Filmed for french Tv show "Age tendre et Tête de bois" (young age and wooden head) that was a kind of "Top of the Pops" of the 60's, where all the young french performers appeared ( Johnny Halliday, Sylvie Vartan, Françoise Hardy and the rest ) alongside the very first french rock and roll bands; so the producer was maybe more used to filming one singer than a band ! At the end you hear the host Albert Raisner.
Thanks for the info , I really love how it's actually live performances.
You are insane. Nobody could've sang the Move songs like he did. Not even Roy Wood. Carl Wayne is one of the greatest singers of the era. The Move never got bigger because they never played more than 5 shows in the U.S. Nobody in this country even heard of them in their time.
Ha ha. Wayne was shite.
I agree but I think Ace Kefford was a better vocalist than him
He couldn’t hit all the notes..Kefford was better
Carl Wayne was on the level of Steve Marriott, Eric Stewart, Mike Smith, Allan Clarke (whom he replaced in the Hollies).
"Les Move" LOL!! I've always thought they were really emulating The Who with this tune. The vocalist prancing like Daltrey, the bass sounding like Entwistle.
Very Good band 🎸🎸❤️💋💋🎹♥️
still Fresh
Great song great band i saw 'em live last '68 some people told me lucky you are ...... i sez lucky circonstance !
Such a very young Bev Bevan!
Roy Wood was a handsome chap back in 1967, after that he started with a Groucho-mask thing and still pretty much is a caricature. He reminded me a bit of Malcolm MacLaren back then. Why did he think he had to add 5 kilos of hair, glasses, moustaches, beards and zany threads? Only a genius like Roy knows.
McDowell , Hi from the future .
Fantastic! So many British chart bands were not as good keeping time and maintaining a great sound live. It’s an obvious requirement but takes practice and a sense of professional discipline.The Beatles were the masters, but the Stones couldn’t even keep time on the record.
Big thanks great stuff ! The Move on French TV présenté par Albert Raisner et juste avant Mireille Matthieu...
Roy Wood with a suit on 😮brilliant 🎼🎶🎶🎶🇬🇧
Where does this come from.Its very Interesting.
Carl does kinda look like a taller, more strapping version of Ringo.
Cool as...ace face bass and moves.Reminds me of o.c.s. Steve Craddock when he plays.
La prise de son est mauvaise mais le groupe excellent . Souvenirs de mes 14 ans et j'en ai 67 aujourd'hui . Et toujours autant de plaisir d'écouter les Move . NORBERT .
What a band! 🇬🇧
love the way Trevor plays his guitar
Haha with the guitar facing himself . They were wild
Massive copyright issue the lads from Spinal Tap. This was just a few years ago correct?
It was Chris 'Ace' Kefford who had the genuine 'moves' onstage. But what th'hell do I know..I was 6 yrs old but think these bands are fab today...2018.
The Move were great Entertainer.
And great Musicians too.
Trevor Burton was the coolest of all Members.
How do you pick the coolest Move member? Tough choices all around!
Just don't pick Wayne. He was a real embarrassment. Just feel fortunate that Woody took over lead vocals.
Just don't pick Wayne. Always an embarrassment. Just feel fortunate that Woody took over lead vocals and kicked that cabaret singer into touch,
nonsense...
@@iainbartlett4951 Tone Deaf TOSSER
Crap camera work. Producer obviously never filmed a band with more than one vocalist. Great to see.
GrumpyBand That was French TV; they’re used to perfomers standing in one place and brooding into the camera.
Wikipedia: "The tapes were stolen from their agent's car when it was parked in Denmark Street, London.[8] The tapes were found in a skip (dumpster) shortly afterward, but the damage caused to them meant that new mixes and masters would have to be made"
The band was sabotaged by an unknown group or person. On their debut album.
For excellent live blues & rock you should see the Trevor Burton Band.
THAT was fucking brilliant
Great band. Carl Wayne always looked too self conscious, which is possibly why he moved to the cabaret circuit. By '67 the Move were trapped in middle ground once Cream and Hendrix arrived. Musically they were credible, but they were a 'chart band'. With Shazam they got heavier and extended tunes. But that fine album was too little too late. When they lost Kefford they lost a key vocal element and stage presence. Burton was great on bass (try the 'Something Else' ep), but the magic was gone.
Flowers in the rain the untold story of (the Move) coming soon.
How very punky British psychedelia was, all coming from Mod groups having their minds expanded...
Really kickin it.
Terrible camera work, but great song!
you guys can make fun of Carl’s dancing, but those were the hottest dance moves at the time. There’s another performance that night with gogo dancers doing the exact moves Carl is doing. Throwing their arms in the air and everything.
💃💃💃💃🕺
No, I think he is really fab!
Happy birthday
Roy wood
8 nobember
*Great* performance, *atrocious* camerawork. Where's Roy? The camera didn't even pan to him during his vocal bit.
Next to Bev
@@elodevi I mean in the footage. But that's what they did then, mostly close-up shots of the singer's face. (shrugs)
Wow!
Yes . The answer is yes. I do.
As someone else commented in response to my comment: 'The Move had two problems. One was their campy, over-the-top douchebag lead singer...'. While that may overstate the matter, in this particular video Carl looks at a bit of a loss for what to do, thus the rather silly moves (pardon the pun) and me saying he appeared self conscious. In other vids (and I grew up with this stuff) he's quite normal, with just a bit of finger snapping or whatever.
Love The Move. Never could stand Wayne
Groovy man hard shit love it man
Are you taking the piss ?
THE MOVE!
ABSOLUTER SUPERBEAT, ROY !!!
Carl was a terrific singer though.
Camera man and sound man stunk big time, but the Move were great as usual.
The Monkee,s and Hermans Hermits were superstars in 60,s the Move were ignored. What's wrong with this picture
They had a lot of hits and attention
You're dead right there godsmonkey. The Carl Wayne fixation during the 2nd half of the song ruined the visuals, and obviously the sound relayed by the TV company was not a great asset in terms of audio production. Still, it could have been worse (re: the visuals) - look what Tony Palmer did to Cream's '68 farewell concert.
roy looks hot in this video.
"Les Move" Ha ha!
Супер!
Roy's mic and guitar both seem to be three-quarters dead.
Really?? You are going to go on record as saying Carl Wayne is the reason that the Move didn't get bigger? Really???
I can see why the fall covered this.
Good stuff ! BTW do you if The Move made more Idle Race covers ? The Birthday you uploaded last Spring was absolutely superb.
Fresh amazing fantastic, energy to twenty.lol
James Brown? Hardly! James Mason more like! Carl Wayne got his moves from 'Dads at weddings' footage, not James Brown.
Ha ha ha, Spot on. He was bollocks.
@@iainbartlett4951 he spoke very highly of your singing and dancing---lol
rip Carl Wayne
Which came first, Carl Wayne or Roger Daltrey?
Well, in the phone directory, it's Roger Daltrey.
Mods kickin' it.
Rodger was doing those moves in 1964, so I think it's the other way 'round!
The Move OBVIOUSLY were WHO fans... just ask them. (by the way, Rodger stole his moves from James Brown) (at least when he was still standing in front of the mike stand) (Buck Dancing)
Yeah, the concept was getting Brummie players together and to put a "Who-type" band on, they did a lot more than what they intended, they actually ended up being a "Move-type" band in the process.
even john lennon liked the move
He had good taste in music then. Pity he didn't have such good taste in women; well the last one any way.
Is that Carl Jagger!
I don't think that Carl is acting THAT bad. He's a lead singer(without a guitar or harmonica)...what's he SUPPOSED to do? I think Roger Daltrey "snagged" some of his moves actually.
Yeah, I did a double-take on the mic twirl. Didn't know Wayne did that Move.
Carl was the King of Cool in the Midlands!
Remind me not to go there if they think Wayne was cool. "All quiet in the concert room. Heads down for the first house."
Jagger-esque. Wonder who started the antics first.
I’d rather watch the grass grow.
The cameraman is not very good. The Move is fantastic as a multi-vocal band. In many moments, British freakbeat, the mod bands that started to transition to psychedelia and the North American garage bands are so close... This is one of those moments.
Roy Wood's voice is so shrill. It's like fingers on a chalkboard to me. I do like Kefford's voice though.
The singer looks like a bad boy
I like zoot version more
I don't think he looks self-conscious here!
He was no jagger
Great performance hampered by french incompetence.
Great performance marred by crappy TV production values.
Puffy shirt
No, fashionable shirt of the time.
I absolutely love the Move, but Carl Wayne's poncing about (not great to speak ill of the dead) was the reason they never really got big, no need for all that dad dancing! I love Trevor though, his bass playing, lol! And Ace.. But Roy should have been lead singer, he looks so cute at the back, not sure about the dicky bow though..
Dumb comment.
Ace played bass and they were huge in England. Pull head from butt.
Woman….
As cool as a Fuck!
it's no good I still can't hear it.
deaf ?
Great band - Fire this audio engineer, though!
The technology wasn't up to spark back in '67 so no good blaming the audio engineer. Most televised performances of live bands in the 60's simply couldn't capture the full spectrum of sound that audiences would have heard in the actual venue (studio/concert hall etc.).
carl wayne is a stooge!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris Gosstheboss What do you mean, '...a stooge?'