I was stabbed when I was in the army. An Afghan translator stabbed me in the chest, ribs, and slashed my stomach completely open, puncturing my diaphragm three times. Knowing how god awful that hurts, I truly hope if this POS is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, they give him the death penalty, and it isn’t overturned into a life in prison without parole. It is a pain that I honestly cannot even describe. It was the most awful thing has ever happened to me, EVER. Being stabbed to death, is something that there really isn’t anything to compare it to. It’s just……literally the worst pain. Cannot even articulate how bad
@@AlwaysHalloween000really? Funny because law flunkies who actually go there would call the William and Mary law school “Marshall-Wythe School of Law”. You’re a lousy web troll. Now move along ya nob.
Media should take the hint the judge gave about focusing too much on the defendant with the cameras. Couldn’t help but notice they didn’t during this hearing smh
The judge protects the suspect intentionally. What we see in court is back profile of the suspect, his attorney, prosecutor. The sound is terrible, far away from professional standards. All of these seems to be intentional. In other trials, like John Deep, or others, cameras were directed to who was speaking: in this case cameras see backs of the main actors of the trial. It is confusing. The judge should be changed I think.
I cant wait to see what evidence the prosecution has, and what the defence does to discredit it. I will hold my opinions until then. RIP Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. ❤
@@BrandyGrayThat's correct BrandyGray ! The prosecution does not have much of anything . Bryans dna is not on the snap of the knife sheath and it _never_ was ! That was a _lie_ . Now they're saying Brians fathers dna is on the snap of the knife sheath. In my opinion , there is not enough evidence to convict Brian of these murders . People need to put themselves in his shoes. How would _they_ _feel_ if everyone was saying you are guilty of four murders when there is no proof ?
Another thing I have always wondered, where are the BF and DM vehicles, because as we all saw the only vehicles they had at the scene were the victims vehicles and Ethans brother. The BF and DM vehicle would have to remain at the scene as evidence, why is no one talking about that.
@@Fitjelani That's strange because in several of the body cameras the vehicles were always seen and that day only the victims' cars were there, if the victims' car was taken to forensic medicine, why didn't they do the same with the BF and DM cars?
If they are wanting the death penalty than that fool needs all the evidence y’all need to give it up. Not that I side with the guy but we have this system in place for a reason we need all evidence
I'm going to say this over and over again. I don't know who this guy is think he's probably guilty from everything I've seen but why did these roommates wait 8 hrs!? 8!! Something's weird.
I thought it might be possible one of the girls were hanging out with Brian and that’s why they maybe didn’t realize he’d done anything until the next morning when it was all said and done.
@@kristinicole2055 Hey you lifetime loser and insidious liar there is absolutely no evidence at ALL that Bryan Kohberger knew any of the victims or vs/vs you creepy lying loser
to think a man killed 4 people (2 to a bed) by himself with a KNIFE is insane. i imagine one tired to fight back or run and and the surviving roomies didn’t hear anything?
Why after the judge said it was inappropriate to only zoom in on Kohberger, or he may rule against having cameras in the courtroom, are you still doing it?
Hopefully they give all the evidence that is the fairest. I dont a unfair ruling where it will now be effecting future court cases. People should deserve all the evidences on the table from police. Looks like corruption to me and what does the prosecution have to hide.
Yes but this could be opening Pandora’s box, they may come back again and again for history records of more investigating officers? Anyway it’s really pretty trivial I think and it also shows the defence don’t really have much if this is so important to them.
The defense looks like it is reaching already, but they have a job to do and will look at anything to try and get him off. In the end its going to be cooked BK. The prosecution would not push for the DP if they didn't have conclusive evidence that it was him.
@@foxglovepearls Lol. I'm waiting to see the evidence before deciding if he is guilty. You already know in your precious little heart that he is guilty before he has offered a defense. Which of us would make a better juror, do you think?
Police use it in the arrest warrant but there not relevant. The state is not going to call them, but Anne Taylor is definitely going to call them. Whaaaaat Sssuuuppp.
@@Scorpio72350 I studied law too, and while I acknowledge the whole concept of "PRESUMPTION of innocence until proven guilty", but seriously, your presumption of his guilt means nothing. I don't know what kind of joke of a law school you studied law at, but I suppose they didn't teach you the difference between the legal definition of guilt and guilt based on an individual value judgement. Either way, what the media has released so far is hardly enough to make any kind of proper judgement other than a presumption, and while there is nothing particularly wrong with presuming his guilt based on what is known about the case, it demonstrates that you actually don't believe what you studied at law school. I hope you're not a practicing lawyer, because you'll make a terrible lawyer.
@@thepunisher2988 i thought they found his dna on the knife sheath at the scene, or that his father has a 99% chance of being the father of the DNA they found at least.
I'm really just not convinced that he did this. The fact there is no DNA in his car/home... You can't murder four people and not bring back DNA to your car and apartment. It's looking sus as fuxk.
Truth, please go into the kitchen tomorrow and throw bowl of soup on the floor and see what a mess it makes, this dude is supposedly killed two girl on the top floor and not get any blood on him and then walk downstairs and killed two more and not get any blood on him, no blood was detected leaving the rooms where the four students were killed. Just doesn't make sense, when you knife someone, blood flies out of the body
@@mrsh2167 but cleaning doesn't really remove DNA. The only other thing I'm thinking of, if it is him, is whether he switched the car out for the exact same model after. But FBI would be all over that if it happened. You'd think.
Why do you use a female profile pic and impersonate a woman you female posing social reject / incel lifetime loser This M.I.T grad with an IQ of 151 will prove it fraught/incel raud fraud you lame transparent fraud
Did you not watch the same hearing that the rest of us watched? andAnn Taylor straight up said that they’re not withholding it that she’s asking for things that the state does not have, but would like the judge to give a court order for her to get those things because the prosecution doesn’t have them and she wants things that they don’t have
@@tammyirwin703Idaho Criminal Rule 16. Discovery and Inspection Mandatory Disclosure of Evidence and Material by the Prosecution. As soon as practicable after the filing of charges against the accused, the prosecuting attorney must disclose to defendant or defendant’s counsel any material or information in the prosecuting attorney's possession or control, or that later comes into the prosecuting attorney's possession or control, that tends to negate the guilt of the accused as to the offense charged or that would tend to reduce the punishment for the offense. The prosecuting attorney's obligations under this paragraph extend to material and information in the possession or control of members of the prosecuting attorney's staff and of any others who have participated in the investigation
Semantics… several hundred officers may have had minor parts in locating evidence and tracking down Kohberger, but only 120 actually participated in interviewing witnesses and suspects.
28 years old, a man of the world, with studies and an adequate understanding of the different branches of the humanities. That's old enough and learnèd enough to be qualified and entitled to kill four other human beings, isn't it? What's the problem? He surely processed everything in a conscientious and prudent way. There must be some sensible reason and defense for someone who killed four defenseless people he didn't know, and in cold blood. What don't I understand?
HE is a psychopath. He is an educated incel psychopath. He cannot build human relationships outside of family. He has only had one date that we know of and there has been lots of background research. Never had a girlfriend. He is mad at the world that he does not fit into, or relate to. It is an emergent social problem especially with the whole facet of social media.
Lack of victim DNA on is not reasonable doubt. His DNA was found on the knife sheath next to a body at the crime scene. Can't wait to see your reaction once evidence comes out.
I disagree. There’s nothing that the defense has done that makes the known evidence seem questionable. The defense is attacking the process and the Investigators. They’re not disputing the facts.
It sounds to me like the prosecution has a weak case, and they should not be withholding information from the defense. Something sketchy is going on. Hopefully they have solid evidence, because as of this point it seems questionable.
@@drockjrjust because they are seeking the death penalty doesn’t mean too much of anything,they gotta find him guilty first which looks pretty iffy being that they’re breaking the law by not giving over discovery evidence, u bozos a say anything
You are absolutely correct. There is no reason to withhold evidence from the defense if you are confident enough to file for the death penalty. Let's not forget that law enforcement officials and state officials are just human beings at work that want to get the job done. These people will never have a case bigger than this so they are going all out. You do not know whether or not they actually have the evidence to back these things up.. People make mistakes all the time. People lie all the time. People break the law and make things up all the time.
They have to give them pretty much everything now. They are seeking the death penalty. By Supreme Court precedent, when the death penalty is on the table, the defense has a right to ANYTHING that is needed to defend their client and fight for their life.
Think about it… if any of the people in question did anything in the interviews or investigations or whatever that they weren’t trained for, that could have an adverse effect on the outcome. Out in the street world, we require doctors to have credentials…if any one not educated and licensed were to start performing surgeries in their garage for part time income, don’t you think the police would have an issue with that if they found out?
Maddie and Kaylee are sleeping, he goes up and uses the butt end of the KA-BAR knife, and knocks them out or stuns them and stabs them. I was in the Marines and that is how we were taught to use it when not wanting any noise but to eliminate people. Has far as Ethan I would need to know more about his initial wounds, If it was to his throat he is not going to be screaming, and Xana wasn't screaming maybe in shock at the sight of Ethan going down.
Madison was really drunk (vid of her and Kaylee at a Grub Truck). So, I am guessing she was passed out. Ethan may have been, too. Also, it was late 4am. Xana was the only 1 who had not yet gone to bed. She was the only 1 who was definitely wide awake when she was murdered. She did try to defend herself. Her fingers of 1 hand were nearly severed off.
Because that is Ann Taylor‘s specialty, she is going to try to use the law enforcement training background to get a mistrial go look it up she defended a man and got a mis trial based on what I just said he was re-tried, but then found guilty
The judge just said don't focus on Bryan's face, so what does Law&Crime Network fo, zeros in on Bryan's face. Unbelievable, did they just hear the judge say knock it off. Sanction them.
@@Ahurtado30 yup. And that judge is the one to do it. I knew he would be fair. Plus, no judge likes to get turnover on appeal. I said this in another channel and I got all kinds of fk up feedback. Amazing. Doom day sayers. That was before the indictment. Now it's a whole different ball game.
Those people are eating their hat's right now since no blood in the car. Thought they were funny. I've been saying the evidence doesn't make any sense. However, I my opinion.
@williammitchell1952 Another thing I have always wondered, where are the BF and DM vehicles, because as we all saw the only vehicles they had at the scene were the victims vehicles and Ethans brother. The BF and DM vehicle would have to remain at the scene as evidence, why is no one talking about that. Does anyone know?
@@nellym.6555 The lawyers know. I saw someone it a little while ago. They are suppose to be in the car lot at Moscow Police station yard. I'm not sure if the feds looked through it.
You're seeking the death penalty, but god forbid you have to do some paperwork to provide the discovery evidence you are constitutionally obligated to provide.
Defense lawyer if you want records of the training of police officers or investigators, then you go and get them. The state should not have to do your job for you. You want it go petition for it
Yeah man I agree why bother having a trial? Why bother getting him a lawyer? The police should have just put one between his eyes that day when they picked him up. We shouldn't even bother with warrants or arresting him. Why do we let him have a defense attorney? I think we should just do him in in the cell because you know like guilty-until-proven-innocent am I right? Guilty until proven guilty? I mean it's definitely one of those right? It's definitely not innocent until proven guilty right? You should move to North Korea. You'd love it there!
Before going to trial people have already condem him,what a world,close the court then,shame on all of you that already judge him,what about if its not him,you people wants to put him to death,one day anyone of you might be in this situation,think before commenting
Me too in Australia. Omg I keep forgetting it will be in the middle of the night for us. We live in the most effing inconvenient place on the planet. Besides Antarctica
@@Scorpio72350 very true. But the best weather. Problems with economy being homes and holes aside. Aussie the best. Generally come every 3 years see other side world !!!!
He’s allowed to gel his hair just like women are allowed to do their hair and makeup. It’s to his benefit to look as put together as possible - not sure why hair gel is surprising to you lmao
The dude does give me Bundy vibes TBH but I can't judge him based on that alone when he might be innocent but have neurodiversity, which I'd say he likely does have.
I don't get it, why are they not relevant? Why do they have to lie. Anne Taylor did tell the court why she needs them. Anyways, the judge sides with Anne Taylor and Bryan.
I've served on a jury and been called for a second time. Listening to this and the evidence reported so far. And I am seeing potential holes in the prosecution's case. I had no doubts about the Lori Daybell case.
Exactly. In the Stauch case I had zero doubt she was guilty. In this, I feel like he 'might' be guilty, but not beyond reasonable doubt. I feel like the evidence is far too thin
If he is found guilty and the evidence bares that out, he deserves death. A KABAR is a brutal weapon of war. It’s nearly impossible for an untrained civilian to defend themselves against that knife. It is a horrific crime. But let’s all hold our opinion until we hear the trial. He, as anyone would be, innocent until proven guilty. That’s our justice system.
I was in the Marines and trained with that knife. Mine is 7-inch blade wood handle with a weighted steel butt (to use to knock people out first) We were taught that if you sneak up on people, use the butt end of the knife to knock them out. That is possibly what the killer did with Maddie and Kaylee. At the least, it would stun and disorient them. We were taught to "stab and rip" a long wound like that makes it extremely difficult to fight back. It's called KA-Bar which means "kill A Bear"
Death penalty isn’t given out enough. This is great but you never know if they will end up going through with it. Even if found guilty he might not actually be put to death
If there's overwhelming evidence and witnesses or they admit to a murder then they should be put to death within a week. Why should we house them and feed them for 30years?
The death penalty is a waste. Even if he gets it, he’ll likely be on for years if not decades if he even ever gets executed. Not to mention it’s a lot more costly
I'm concerned theirs more killers on the loose. When Bryan was questioned he said where others arrested something very similar. He's covering for them but why pluss the room mates never called 911 dodgy as out you hear your room mates screaming lots of noise you wait their for hours and you don't call 911 I really hope theirs no one else......
they jumped the gun if ya ask me they have almost zero evidence lol they shouldve just followed him and waited for him to strike again if they were so sure
They have his DNA on a knife sheath next to a victims body. How on earth is that “zero evidence”? Lol. That’s without the fact they have his car on cameras and his phone pinging around the time of the murders.
They don't the first time it came up negative then the second time gave some sounds planted. He could have just went to the town to buy drugs. Then went to the park and smoked weed and went home
The way these comments have more compassion and want fairness for Bryan is insane…. Talking about a fair trial for a man who killed 4 humans in less then 60minutes.. the state of the world is demonic…
It’s part of our legal process in our free and democratic country. It’s this way or no way. It has to be fair and if it’s not our legal rights are in jeopardy
Wht abt the:7-8hrs.delay,the students that were around:1122*Were there contamination b4:911call?!!Definitely they should check the:LE who took statements(if there's nothing 2hide;)!
Generally, at the moment of the crime the murderer was afraid he made much noise, we know that some victims were very noisy. Dog was barking all the time as I suppose, victims were screaming, he could lost cold blood. For this reason he made general mistake leaving the sheat. It could be the reason for that. If there was any possible way to leave the knife on the crime scene, for example putting it into the existing pipe system, or under the roof, or into the existing infrastructure of any kind, he could leave the knife there. It was better to him to not possess the knife in the car, because he could expect that Police will run after him. Also it is possible, that the girl „surviver” was the Bryan’s helper, and she has taken the knife. She could have hidden place prepared for it, for example in her room. It would explain, why he didn’t kill her. We know that Bryan K. asked Police if there was another person arrested. I would say, that if the „surviver” is a Jew, as Bryan K. is, it is possible that they cooperated: Police should investigate weather they met before, or made phone calls, even in the deep past. Sewere interrogation could reveal new facts. This is the reason why the trial could be postponed; because new facts were revealed, and the collection of proofs is still in progress. Also any traces, for example any data related to power consumption, use of laundry, on the crime scene shortly after the murder would act against the surviver, as the only person active early in the morning, knowing what happened. The surviver is the most interesting person during investigation. She should be checked as a possible suspect, not observer nor potential victim. It is necessary to check the room of the surviver, and if Bryan K. was inside it, the surviver cooperated with him. People forcing the Police and University to demolish the crime scen (the building) simply cooperate with the murderer.
Another thing I have always wondered, where are the BF and DM vehicles, because as we all saw the only vehicles they had at the scene were the victims vehicles and Ethans brother. The BF and DM vehicle would have to remain at the scene as evidence, why is no one talking about that. Does anyone know?
I was stabbed when I was in the army. An Afghan translator stabbed me in the chest, ribs, and slashed my stomach completely open, puncturing my diaphragm three times. Knowing how god awful that hurts, I truly hope if this POS is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, they give him the death penalty, and it isn’t overturned into a life in prison without parole. It is a pain that I honestly cannot even describe. It was the most awful thing has ever happened to me, EVER. Being stabbed to death, is something that there really isn’t anything to compare it to. It’s just……literally the worst pain. Cannot even articulate how bad
I dont think theres a more painful way to die he deserves the chair if u ask me
Wow, how horrible that this happened to you. You really understand what these kids went through 😰
Burning alive or boiled alive is worse
Ask the lobsters and crayfish
What happened to the guy that did that to you?
Remember when there was a mountain of evidence in the Casey Anthony case and she got off Scott free? Don’t underestimate beyond a reasonable doubt.
I'm a William & Mary Law Grad and current attorney with 18 years of impeccable service. Care to take on me you chump?
I'm waiting for you
~Waits
@@AlwaysHalloween000power tripping
@@AlwaysHalloween000really? Funny because law flunkies who actually go there would call the William and Mary law school “Marshall-Wythe School of Law”. You’re a lousy web troll. Now move along ya nob.
Media should take the hint the judge gave about focusing too much on the defendant with the cameras. Couldn’t help but notice they didn’t during this hearing smh
Yeah. The last coverage was total garbage.
Ya I really hope they don't mess this up and get cameras removed from the room
The judge protects the suspect intentionally. What we see in court is back profile of the suspect, his attorney, prosecutor. The sound is terrible, far away from professional standards. All of these seems to be intentional. In other trials, like John Deep, or others, cameras were directed to who was speaking: in this case cameras see backs of the main actors of the trial. It is confusing. The judge should be changed I think.
@@mieczyslawherba2723 The judge has no duty to make sure you have a good view.
He has no emotion. EVER. Isn't that strange?
I cant wait to see what evidence the prosecution has, and what the defence does to discredit it. I will hold my opinions until then. RIP Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. ❤
We've already seen what they have. Not much.
DNA on the sheath that was found under a body. I think that is more than enough. DNA can't lie.
@@BrandyGrayso DNA isn't "much" anymore? 😂
@@BrandyGrayThat's correct BrandyGray ! The prosecution does not have much of anything . Bryans dna is not on the snap of the knife sheath and it _never_ was ! That was a _lie_ . Now they're saying Brians fathers dna is on the snap of the knife sheath. In my opinion , there is not enough evidence to convict Brian of these murders . People need to put themselves in his shoes. How would _they_ _feel_ if everyone was saying you are guilty of four murders when there is no proof ?
Touch DNA on a knife shieth and what else?
OMG stop zooming in on KB already! Did you not hear the judge just 5mins ago??
Another thing I have always wondered, where are the BF and DM vehicles, because as we all saw the only vehicles they had at the scene were the victims vehicles and Ethans brother. The BF and DM vehicle would have to remain at the scene as evidence, why is no one talking about that.
It was a party block. They probably left it somewhere down the road or were picked up by one of the girls
@@Fitjelani That's strange because in several of the body cameras the vehicles were always seen and that day only the victims' cars were there, if the victims' car was taken to forensic medicine, why didn't they do the same with the BF and DM cars?
They were already cleared
Hey lifetime *Loser* and female poser care to take me on with your insidious slanderous lies you just told ?
I'm waiting for you female impersonator and Incel
What about the two unknown male DNA samples found at the scene?
do you not know other people were at sometime in that home? All other prints were completely investigated.
Every day I 🙏 this trial is televised as this is so much bigger than the murdaugh trial ..the world wants to see this trial LIVE ...BADLY..
If they are wanting the death penalty than that fool needs all the evidence y’all need to give it up. Not that I side with the guy but we have this system in place for a reason we need all evidence
We better have the right person because if he is not the guy....where is the person responsible?!
It’s not up to the prosecution to decide what evidence the defense team needs to make their case. That would not give the defendant a fair trial.
It is the protections job to present evidence which the defense gets to argue about. The State provided the discovery to defense as is required.
The prosecutor has to give them the same information they have. Why have a defensive at all
burden of proof on state
When he's proven guilty then he's got to go. I can't fathom the physical pain these young adults suffered and their fear.Death penalty
To much crime in this Red States 😥🇺🇸
I hope that this trial will be televised ~ l am sure going to be watching.
I think they already said it will be
@@xoxsilentrealmxox I put some money on not guilty (on all counts)
@@thepunisher2988 I'm preparing for the possibility
@@thepunisher2988 You will not win that bet!
How many times are yall gonna play the same video with a different title???
I'm going to say this over and over again. I don't know who this guy is think he's probably guilty from everything I've seen but why did these roommates wait 8 hrs!? 8!! Something's weird.
Because there were drugs in the house
I thought it might be possible one of the girls were hanging out with Brian and that’s why they maybe didn’t realize he’d done anything until the next morning when it was all said and done.
@@kristinicole2055 Hey you lifetime loser and insidious liar there is absolutely no evidence at ALL that Bryan Kohberger knew any of the victims or vs/vs you creepy lying loser
@@kristinicole2055 And quit posing as a woman you social reject guy and incel
to think a man killed 4 people (2 to a bed) by himself with a KNIFE is insane. i imagine one tired to fight back or run and and the surviving roomies didn’t hear anything?
Why after the judge said it was inappropriate to only zoom in on Kohberger, or he may rule against having cameras in the courtroom, are you still doing it?
Even if he is innocent, he's still guilty by media...
Exactly
It’s not by media it’s by evidence.
death penalty is too good for bryan, life without parole is a lot more acceptable for his punishment
For what?
@nowirehangers2815 he wont suffer, life in prison without parole is torture
@DonJrsCokeDealer-bm3wy so as the btk since they didn't find any hard evidence on hin
@@draco2xx they found drivers licenses he kept. polaroids he took. lol.
@@timewa851 that was debunked months ago
Smells cover up.they should investigate around university who ever was around when crime happen
Hopefully they give all the evidence that is the fairest. I dont a unfair ruling where it will now be effecting future court cases. People should deserve all the evidences on the table from police. Looks like corruption to me and what does the prosecution have to hide.
Defense will get all EVIDENCE as required. What is not evidence they are not entitled to
She wants training records for 3 not hundreds of officers State prosecutor is completely unimpressive.
Yes but this could be opening Pandora’s box, they may come back again and again for history records of more investigating officers? Anyway it’s really pretty trivial I think and it also shows the defence don’t really have much if this is so important to them.
The defense looks like it is reaching already, but they have a job to do and will look at anything to try and get him off. In the end its going to be cooked BK. The prosecution would not push for the DP if they didn't have conclusive evidence that it was him.
Agree with all of what you said 100%
I'm so distracted by the fact that the judges name is Judge
I knew an astronaut and his last name was astronaut 😊
@@reallifelebowski4732I knew a guy named Dragon
Why is he dressed in a fancy suit and a tie instead of an orange prison jumpsuit?
October trial date! They are trying to move this case right along
Will there be cameras in the courtroom, do you know?
@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 I’m not sure but with a high profile case such as this, I hoping that they will allow cameras
@@aw8119 why you have no life?
@@aw8119 Me, too. Thanks. 🍻
@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 I believe the judge said they will be allowed after he loosened the gag order
I don’t know what the smiles and smugness could possibly be about with BK and his attorneys
Dude just sat there.
It's about the closest he's ever been to women except maybe to kill them. That's why he's smiling. Maybe.
@@katyaflippinov9197 Ted Bundy was the same way, just throwing that out there
Ted Bundy was very comfortable in the court room.
Yes it’s his attorneys, I find their big smiles when they enter a court room really inappropriate. They should at least respect the victims families.
The defense has two tactics…to attack law enforcement and drag out the trial because that’ll go towards extending his life…needlessly.
Lol. How would you know that, again?
Also, do you think the state would take him out back and kill him once the trial is over?
@@falseprophet1024
It’s obvious to me, Boo Boo 🤣
@@foxglovepearls
I hope you are never on a jury, boo boo...
@@falseprophet1024
Right back at you, Charlie.
@@foxglovepearls
Lol. I'm waiting to see the evidence before deciding if he is guilty. You already know in your precious little heart that he is guilty before he has offered a defense.
Which of us would make a better juror, do you think?
Police use it in the arrest warrant but there not relevant. The state is not going to call them, but Anne Taylor is definitely going to call them. Whaaaaat Sssuuuppp.
Sounds like the defense is grasping at straws asking for these training records and such.
Yep. let;s focus of BKs education in crime. How bout that?!
Training records are a good thing to ask for. Start with the basics. If they are flawed...boom! so much for the rest of the case.
@@noahwaye Nope. Concrete evidence will not be dismissed for that reason.
It’s scary to think if it isn’t Kohberger, the killer is still free.
Well I am not scared. Bc IMO it is HIM> I cannot wait to see him face justice!
I studied law, I believe in the whole “innocent until proven guilty” but seriously… it’s Kohberger.
@@Scorpio72350 I studied law too, and while I acknowledge the whole concept of "PRESUMPTION of innocence until proven guilty", but seriously, your presumption of his guilt means nothing. I don't know what kind of joke of a law school you studied law at, but I suppose they didn't teach you the difference between the legal definition of guilt and guilt based on an individual value judgement. Either way, what the media has released so far is hardly enough to make any kind of proper judgement other than a presumption, and while there is nothing particularly wrong with presuming his guilt based on what is known about the case, it demonstrates that you actually don't believe what you studied at law school.
I hope you're not a practicing lawyer, because you'll make a terrible lawyer.
That’s what they want
@@thepunisher2988 i thought they found his dna on the knife sheath at the scene, or that his father has a 99% chance of being the father of the DNA they found at least.
The DP is appropriate. An innocent person doesn't smirk or act so calm😈, he GUILTY.
Two things: the lawyers need to actually speak in an audible voice; the judge's name is John Judge.
HaHa I thought I must have misheard his name! Pretty funny.
Why is he sometimes wearing a prisom jumpsuit in court and sometimes a suit ?
I'm really just not convinced that he did this. The fact there is no DNA in his car/home... You can't murder four people and not bring back DNA to your car and apartment. It's looking sus as fuxk.
he had weeks to clean
Truth, please go into the kitchen tomorrow and throw bowl of soup on the floor and see what a mess it makes, this dude is supposedly killed two girl on the top floor and not get any blood on him and then walk downstairs and killed two more and not get any blood on him, no blood was detected leaving the rooms where the four students were killed. Just doesn't make sense, when you knife someone, blood flies out of the body
About the sheath snap with his personal DNA found with the two murdered girls in bed!
@@mrsh2167 but cleaning doesn't really remove DNA. The only other thing I'm thinking of, if it is him, is whether he switched the car out for the exact same model after. But FBI would be all over that if it happened. You'd think.
Why do you use a female profile pic and impersonate a woman you female posing social reject / incel lifetime loser
This M.I.T grad with an IQ of 151 will prove it fraught/incel raud fraud you lame transparent fraud
Ppl should be more worried about the precedent this will set for a prosecution to withhold evidence
Did you not watch the same hearing that the rest of us watched? andAnn Taylor straight up said that they’re not withholding it that she’s asking for things that the state does not have, but would like the judge to give a court order for her to get those things because the prosecution doesn’t have them and she wants things that they don’t have
@@tammyirwin703Idaho Criminal Rule 16. Discovery and Inspection
Mandatory Disclosure of Evidence and Material by the Prosecution. As soon as practicable after the filing of charges against the accused, the prosecuting attorney must disclose to defendant or defendant’s counsel any material or information in the prosecuting attorney's possession or control, or that later comes into the prosecuting attorney's possession or control, that tends to negate the guilt of the accused as to the offense charged or that would tend to reduce the punishment for the offense. The prosecuting attorney's obligations under this paragraph extend to material and information in the possession or control of members of the prosecuting attorney's staff and of any others who have participated in the investigation
@@nellym.6555 AND???? Like I said Ann Taylor clearly stated in the hearing what I commented above
@@tammyirwin703 If they don't have the documents that the defense is asking for, then explain what evidence they had when they arrested BK?
They are not withholding evidence you low IQ lifetime loser
Prosecution says "several hundred" officers involved & defense says 120 officers. Who's being untruthful here? 🤔
Semantics… several hundred officers may have had minor parts in locating evidence and tracking down Kohberger, but only 120 actually participated in interviewing witnesses and suspects.
Semantics
28 years old, a man of the world, with studies and an adequate understanding of the different branches of the humanities. That's old enough and learnèd enough to be qualified and entitled to kill four other human beings, isn't it? What's the problem? He surely processed everything in a conscientious and prudent way. There must be some sensible reason and defense for someone who killed four defenseless people he didn't know, and in cold blood. What don't I understand?
HE is a psychopath. He is an educated incel psychopath. He cannot build human relationships outside of family. He has only had one date that we know of and there has been lots of background research. Never had a girlfriend. He is mad at the world that he does not fit into, or relate to. It is an emergent social problem especially with the whole facet of social media.
Give them the training records. Let the jury decide. Beyond a reasonable doubt
Gotta say this is looking like there is going to be reasonable doubt. If the system works I can’t see how at least one juror won’t see it that way.
Lack of victim DNA on is not reasonable doubt. His DNA was found on the knife sheath next to a body at the crime scene. Can't wait to see your reaction once evidence comes out.
Sober Up you lifetime loser
Not just doubt…..reasonable doubt.
lmao
I disagree. There’s nothing that the defense has done that makes the known evidence seem questionable. The defense is attacking the process and the Investigators. They’re not disputing the facts.
It sounds to me like the prosecution has a weak case, and they should not be withholding information from the defense. Something sketchy is going on. Hopefully they have solid evidence, because as of this point it seems questionable.
The death penalty isn't given out for giggles. They have to have a strong case for such a strong penalty
It sounds to me like you are practicing law without a ĺicense.
@@drockjrjust because they are seeking the death penalty doesn’t mean too much of anything,they gotta find him guilty first which looks pretty iffy being that they’re breaking the law by not giving over discovery evidence, u bozos a say anything
State must have a strong case for DEATH penalty.
You are absolutely correct. There is no reason to withhold evidence from the defense if you are confident enough to file for the death penalty.
Let's not forget that law enforcement officials and state officials are just human beings at work that want to get the job done. These people will never have a case bigger than this so they are going all out. You do not know whether or not they actually have the evidence to back these things up..
People make mistakes all the time. People lie all the time. People break the law and make things up all the time.
Hey Law and Crime. The judge directed that cameras no zoom in on defendant yet you did so throughout this hearing.
They have to give them pretty much everything now. They are seeking the death penalty. By Supreme Court precedent, when the death penalty is on the table, the defense has a right to ANYTHING that is needed to defend their client and fight for their life.
WRONG! ANYTHING is not EVIDENCE. defense is not entitled to anything.
What would police training records prove?
Think about it… if any of the people in question did anything in the interviews or investigations or whatever that they weren’t trained for, that could have an adverse effect on the outcome. Out in the street world, we require doctors to have credentials…if any one not educated and licensed were to start performing surgeries in their garage for part time income, don’t you think the police would have an issue with that if they found out?
Whether they stepped outside of their jurisdiction
Why isn't the state giving all information to defense???
Defense is not entitled to all information----information is not EVIDENCE
How could he kill all of these kids without them fighting back 🤔 hmm
Maddie and Kaylee are sleeping, he goes up and uses the butt end of the KA-BAR knife, and knocks them out or stuns them and stabs them. I was in the Marines and that is how we were taught to use it when not wanting any noise but to eliminate people. Has far as Ethan I would need to know more about his initial wounds, If it was to his throat he is not going to be screaming, and Xana wasn't screaming maybe in shock at the sight of Ethan going down.
@Ben-rh9kr wow, thanks
Madison was really drunk (vid of her and Kaylee at a Grub Truck). So, I am guessing she was passed out. Ethan may have been, too. Also, it was late 4am. Xana was the only 1 who had not yet gone to bed. She was the only 1 who was definitely wide awake when she was murdered. She did try to defend herself. Her fingers of 1 hand were nearly severed off.
It does not seem a clear cut evidence of guilt, even from France 🇨🇵
Yeah the sheath is going to be hard to explain away… his DNA on it, and it’s literally under Maddies body
The records related to the FBI search they need to turn over, but how are police training records relevant? What a reach
I think they r going for chain of command but idk
Because that is Ann Taylor‘s specialty, she is going to try to use the law enforcement training background to get a mistrial go look it up she defended a man and got a mis trial based on what I just said he was re-tried, but then found guilty
The judge just said don't focus on Bryan's face, so what does Law&Crime Network fo, zeros in on Bryan's face. Unbelievable, did they just hear the judge say knock it off. Sanction them.
Mistrial
@@Ahurtado30 yup. And that judge is the one to do it. I knew he would be fair. Plus, no judge likes to get turnover on appeal. I said this in another channel and I got all kinds of fk up feedback. Amazing. Doom day sayers. That was before the indictment. Now it's a whole different ball game.
Those people are eating their hat's right now since no blood in the car. Thought they were funny. I've been saying the evidence doesn't make any sense. However, I my opinion.
@williammitchell1952 Another thing I have always wondered, where are the BF and DM vehicles, because as we all saw the only vehicles they had at the scene were the victims vehicles and Ethans brother. The BF and DM vehicle would have to remain at the scene as evidence, why is no one talking about that. Does anyone know?
@@nellym.6555 The lawyers know. I saw someone it a little while ago. They are suppose to be in the car lot at Moscow Police station yard. I'm not sure if the feds looked through it.
You're seeking the death penalty, but god forbid you have to do some paperwork to provide the discovery evidence you are constitutionally obligated to provide.
God forbid you have a lack of what is information vs. evidence the defense is entitled to have.
Police are trained with tax money therefore it belongs to the people and are public
Bk is besotted with his lawyer Ann Taylor, she needs to be careful.
👍👍👍 Death Penalty 👍👍👍
Innocent...
Defense lawyer if you want records of the training of police officers or investigators, then you go and get them. The state should not have to do your job for you. You want it go petition for it
Yea, its called discovery and the state has a legal obligation to share all of the evidence that they have in the case period
Those training records are not public information, the defense needs the prosecution to provide them.
Okay smarty pants
You can't be more wrong...
Did you even listen to the defense lawyer?
This dude can’t get the needle soon enough
Doesn’t Idaho have the firing squad too??
Yeah man I agree why bother having a trial? Why bother getting him a lawyer? The police should have just put one between his eyes that day when they picked him up. We shouldn't even bother with warrants or arresting him. Why do we let him have a defense attorney? I think we should just do him in in the cell because you know like guilty-until-proven-innocent am I right? Guilty until proven guilty? I mean it's definitely one of those right? It's definitely not innocent until proven guilty right? You should move to North Korea. You'd love it there!
@@missblackwood Only if they can't find drugs for lethal Injection.
He will be on death row for decades. Last time Idaho put a person to death was in 1957
Before going to trial people have already condem him,what a world,close the court then,shame on all of you that already judge him,what about if its not him,you people wants to put him to death,one day anyone of you might be in this situation,think before commenting
Criminals continue to keep their cell phones with them. That location info is critical.
"You are evil, but I am the Devil" Bryan said in his rap song that he recorded in Highschool.
Eminem lyrics = Murder
he's no devil. just a low ranking minion.
NewsNation used to be my fav. Let's just say...if the wsutermletter came to me...now...it would be Law&crime who released it.
Love y'all.
Imagine if social media is the court system 🐵
People should have to answer basic questions about law and ethics before sitting on a jury.
Anchor: “The prosecutor says ….”
Clip of prosecutor saying the exact same thing
"28 year old Koldburger", Well how old is the Santa prosecutor or the Public Defender? How old is the judge?
They're not on trial for the murders of four people Kohlberg is.
Eagerly waiting on end year trial from UK
Me too in Australia. Omg I keep forgetting it will be in the middle of the night for us. We live in the most effing inconvenient place on the planet. Besides Antarctica
@@Scorpio72350 very true. But the best weather. Problems with economy being homes and holes aside. Aussie the best. Generally come every 3 years see other side world !!!!
So… I get that he is allowed to put on a suit - but style his hair? Someone spent some time styling that hair. His hair is styled with gel. WTF.
He’s allowed to gel his hair just like women are allowed to do their hair and makeup. It’s to his benefit to look as put together as possible - not sure why hair gel is surprising to you lmao
If the defendant is acquitted, might Law & Crime TV offer him a commentator position?
His eyes are so cold. I'm 95% sure he did it. He needs to just plead guilty, & save the taxpayers money.
You can’t go just on appearance . It’s quite likely he did it, but it’s too early to decide .
If he pleads guilty, that may automatically take the D.P away In some states pleading guilty voids the D.P.
@@TheFigaro666 😂🤣😂
That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. We should judge him based on evidence, and nothing else.
The dude does give me Bundy vibes TBH but I can't judge him based on that alone when he might be innocent but have neurodiversity, which I'd say he likely does have.
We all want to know " WHY "
probably never will.
October will be a busy month..Kohlberger and Trevizo are going to get it !
I don't get it, why are they not relevant? Why do they have to lie. Anne Taylor did tell the court why she needs them. Anyways, the judge sides with Anne Taylor and Bryan.
You mentally challenged life time loser and incel
I've served on a jury and been called for a second time. Listening to this and the evidence reported so far. And I am seeing potential holes in the prosecution's case. I had no doubts about the Lori Daybell case.
Exactly. In the Stauch case I had zero doubt she was guilty. In this, I feel like he 'might' be guilty, but not beyond reasonable doubt. I feel like the evidence is far too thin
@DonJrsCokeDealer-bm3wy We're already starting with that BS? Ughh...
@@xoxsilentrealmxoxidk.. that’s a lot of pictures and things to not be guilty..
I think the video is his car going back and forth in the area of the house and leaving near the time they got killed says it all (or almost)
@@kristinicole2055 what pictures? I haven't seen anything about pictures yet.
If found guilty then definitely the death penalty!💔rip to the girls & Ethan
true, but he will be about 50 before they finish all the appeals. Scott Peterson is going on 20 years now.
And kaylee she was gorgeous and maddie ❤❤
A waste of taxpayer dollars!
Agreed
Most don’t realize the death penalty is a lot more expensive because if the hearings and appeals
Did y’all hear how much evidence they have against 😅
If he is found guilty and the evidence bares that out, he deserves death. A KABAR is a brutal weapon of war. It’s nearly impossible for an untrained civilian to defend themselves against that knife. It is a horrific crime. But let’s all hold our opinion until we hear the trial. He, as anyone would be, innocent until proven guilty. That’s our justice system.
I was in the Marines and trained with that knife. Mine is 7-inch blade wood handle with a weighted steel butt (to use to knock people out first) We were taught that if you sneak up on people, use the butt end of the knife to knock them out. That is possibly what the killer did with Maddie and Kaylee. At the least, it would stun and disorient them.
We were taught to "stab and rip" a long wound like that makes it extremely difficult to fight back.
It's called KA-Bar which means "kill A Bear"
How do you know a “Kabar” was used in the crime? How do you know how a “Kabar” is deadly and cannot be defended against?
@@Ben-rh9kr those victims were all in bed sleeping and most likely impaired.
There must be something they don't want the defence 2know,or whether there's any mistakes unintentionally..
I believe that is what we call reaching. They are just doing their job I guess
Death penalty isn’t given out enough. This is great but you never know if they will end up going through with it. Even if found guilty he might not actually be put to death
Maybe he didn't do it
Firing gun squad. I'll volunteer, then I'll go have lunch.
If there's overwhelming evidence and witnesses or they admit to a murder then they should be put to death within a week. Why should we house them and feed them for 30years?
You are right!! So I give it to you
@@JOSEF_GAMING45nope he did it
The lack of evidence at 1122 tells me Bryan did it
What?!
we need the records of what the officers had for lunch that day
😂
Why 😳
Smelled like egg salad 😮💨
It looks like the detectives got the wrong guy here so it's fair to ask for their training records
exactly
Wtf does training records have to do with anything. BS busy work
Show they weren't trained properly to handle evidence for one.
@@Ben-rh9kr are all officers trained in handling evidence?
did he plan this from the start? prosecution doesnt seem that bright, possibly inept?
The prosecution is taking a big risk by filing the death penalty.
I think a life sentence would be a more sure sensible course to take.
They must have enough evidence to be sure
The prosecution is following the rules of law in seeking the death penalty. What you think is more sensible is not what is proper.
Geez, October trial date.
Evidence he cut holes in his sheets where the blood was in his apartment..bleaching his car !!! I feel bad for the victims' families!
So, the trial will take place in 2039.
The death penalty is a waste.
Even if he gets it, he’ll likely be on for years if not decades if he even ever gets executed.
Not to mention it’s a lot more costly
I don’t think it’s a waste I just think they should enact the sentences faster
I'm concerned theirs more killers on the loose. When Bryan was questioned he said where others arrested something very similar. He's covering for them but why pluss the room mates never called 911 dodgy as out you hear your room mates screaming lots of noise you wait their for hours and you don't call 911 I really hope theirs no one else......
Looks guilty, CREEPY even.
@zoomer9686 🔐🔐🔐 🔑🔑🔑
they jumped the gun if ya ask me they have almost zero evidence lol they shouldve just followed him and waited for him to strike again if they were so sure
They have his DNA on a knife sheath next to a victims body. How on earth is that “zero evidence”? Lol. That’s without the fact they have his car on cameras and his phone pinging around the time of the murders.
They don't the first time it came up negative then the second time gave some sounds planted. He could have just went to the town to buy drugs. Then went to the park and smoked weed and went home
I'm waiting for you
💥 Breaking 💥
I just found out that Judge Judge has a favorite band :
Mister Mister .
Haha 😂
The way these comments have more compassion and want fairness for Bryan is insane…. Talking about a fair trial for a man who killed 4 humans in less then 60minutes.. the state of the world is demonic…
He was done less than 5 minutes, evidently and if Xana had been in bed, it would have been quicker than that.
It’s part of our legal process in our free and democratic country. It’s this way or no way. It has to be fair and if it’s not our legal rights are in jeopardy
We call that “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!” 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Reasonable doubt! I’m not saying he didn’t do it but the evidence is very thin.
i havent been tuning in. did this guy know the people he killed or just a random murder?
if they got no relvance why object?
Wht abt the:7-8hrs.delay,the students that were around:1122*Were there contamination b4:911call?!!Definitely they should check the:LE who took statements(if there's nothing 2hide;)!
As they used to say in the old James Cagney movies, "He's gonna boin." (Innoncent til proven guilty, of course.)
Generally, at the moment of the crime the murderer was afraid he made much noise, we know that some victims were very noisy. Dog was barking all the time as I suppose, victims were screaming, he could lost cold blood. For this reason he made general mistake leaving the sheat. It could be the reason for that. If there was any possible way to leave the knife on the crime scene, for example putting it into the existing pipe system, or under the roof, or into the existing infrastructure of any kind, he could leave the knife there. It was better to him to not possess the knife in the car, because he could expect that Police will run after him. Also it is possible, that the girl „surviver” was the Bryan’s helper, and she has taken the knife. She could have hidden place prepared for it, for example in her room. It would explain, why he didn’t kill her. We know that Bryan K. asked Police if there was another person arrested. I would say, that if the „surviver” is a Jew, as Bryan K. is, it is possible that they cooperated: Police should investigate weather they met before, or made phone calls, even in the deep past. Sewere interrogation could reveal new facts. This is the reason why the trial could be postponed; because new facts were revealed, and the collection of proofs is still in progress.
Also any traces, for example any data related to power consumption, use of laundry, on the crime scene shortly after the murder would act against the surviver, as the only person active early in the morning, knowing what happened. The surviver is the most interesting person during investigation. She should be checked as a possible suspect, not observer nor potential victim. It is necessary to check the room of the surviver, and if Bryan K. was inside it, the surviver cooperated with him.
People forcing the Police and University to demolish the crime scen (the building) simply cooperate with the murderer.
Why would it matter if a roommate or a survivor is JEWISH😮 that's way screwed up of you😮
Kohberger is not Jewish.
Another thing I have always wondered, where are the BF and DM vehicles, because as we all saw the only vehicles they had at the scene were the victims vehicles and Ethans brother. The BF and DM vehicle would have to remain at the scene as evidence, why is no one talking about that. Does anyone know?
@@gingeehermann4711 an official representing prosecutor said that if Bryan is a Jew this is his problem.
@DonJrsCokeDealer-bm3wy Also Dr Mengele was innocent.
Y'all.... look it... We have Santa 🎅 Clause on this case... 🤦♀️🤣
Oh lady, you're reaching!!!!