LKY great decision to advise their citizens to learn Chinese Mandarin or keep Chinese Mandarin as a mother tongue is why now SG could be the bridge accessible both from the west and the east.
i mean that's also true for some of the radical HKers, but it's mainly that they don't want to be ruled by an authoritarian regime, with laws that can arrest you easier than laws that are used by democratic countries. But yeah, it's sad to see HK disrespecting China and its people and also kinda sad to see Hkers waving the British colonial flag, and American flags.
That is because Lee Kean Yew sympathises the guy. He understands his frustration. If Lee Kuan yew were to be in HK, he might face the same issue. He is advising HK not to go head to head with mainland. The westerns government aren't that good also.... and their sentiments has always been used as a tool to prick China.
Hong Kong people tend to be rude and selfish... we see it everywhere unlike the Japanese or Taiwanese who are a bit more refined ... hard trait & habit to break off
"Hong Kong was moved as a pawn on a chess board". This great man had warned Hong Kong 20 years ago, but Hong Kong people had turned a deaf ear on him. Just look at Hong Kong now. Enough said.
The interviewer obviously knows nothing about chess. A pawn can be promoted to whatever piece, even a queen. But hong kong has already missed the chance. So the consequence is to be traded off to opponent for time and space.
In the East, the main object is to have a *well-ordered society* so that everybody can have maximum enjoyment of his freedoms. This freedom can only exist in an *ordered state* and *not in a natural state of contention and anarchy.* Lee Kuan Yew 在东方的国度里，最主要的使命是要建设一个＊有纪律的社会＊，那么每一个人就可以从中享受最高的＊自由＊。这种＊自由＊只可以建立在一个＊拥有纪律＊社会。而不是存在一个充满争论和无政府主义的状态之中。 师城国父：李光耀
The economy is the ultimate purpose of all modern-day political ideals, be it communism and capitalism. Those who go into politics without this understanding are bound to fail because they know not where they tread.
He shorts of saying, HongKong is only a playing field for the 2 big players , that is China and USA. Very accurate analysis from very high helicopter points of view. The whole world just couldn’t care less about this insignificant small dot.
as humans they are equal, as minds, the interviewer was .... as English speaker he was even worse than my 6 yrs old daughter. And he was rude in the way he talked to Mr Lee
The Taiwan thing successfully blocked the signing of the trade agreement with China and now suffering a loss the thing is now being called 大肠花 or rectal flower🙈🙈🤣
Great interview indeed! It provided an insight on how a leader of a country thinks and views economic/ political issues on whole diff level i.e. the political games btw US and China. The chess game is still going on...
Cecilia W 記者永遠有導向性的！他信奉‘民主自由’是唯一神論，所以他想導向這個最強領袖讚同他的意識形態！李光耀是在英國制度下成長的人，理應最信奉‘自由民主’，但他是個聰明人，了解到這種信念不適合中華的文化。他以強權的體制打造了自己的皇朝！現在中國必須中央集權制，一旦我國與美國平起平坐時，我們真的要思考，怎樣才可以將領導者的利益輿國家的利益形成一體！
HK must be pull into China one country one system for its long term success & prosperity. HK will have a big brother together as team player in the world.
how can Hong Kong have a functioning democratic system if the electorate can't receive a functioning flow of information and a functioning press? How can there be a functioning press when the market and the consumers don't desire press organizations with journalistic qualities? Hong Kong isn't anything more than a mob.
Don't be naive. It's all built on military aspects followed by excellent leadership implementing impartial law enforcement with his/her heart to the people. Just look at Hongkong now. Until the fundamental issues had been resolved or without foreign interference, your hopes looked dim.
The Root cause of the Hong Kong problem was caused by the British colonial government corrupted with the private property interested groups which most of the people land was sold to rich people . This left no land for the poor people. Lucky for Singapore LKY control the Land property and built the government house HDB for most or their low income people.
Younger generation all brained washed. Then the older generations are all like elephants in circus. Chained and whipped, now all scared like shit. Only will move a step when the govt tells them to. Stay in circus, don't come out.
Great analysis and foresight by the incomparable Mr. Lee Kuan Yew. The ignorant interview. The interviewer is representative of the ignorant Hong Kong youth who thinks Hong Kong was a democratic state of the west.
Interviewer should never force his views on the interviewee. He wanted go get assurance from Mr Lee but he couldn't and try... To comfort himself. He just needed to accept the truth. China will not allow Hong Kong to have autonomy to elect their own leader. China can lose Hong Kong, they can't lose the whole of China.
As long as HK refuse to accept Basic Law as foundation, they can nevrr get anywhere. They keep trying to act beyond SAR status, but doesn't have the means to do so.
At the end of the interview, LKY said that he have confident that common sense will prevail and the people in Hong Kong will recognise the importance of China in relation to Hong Kong.....! However, after witnessing the past few months of rubbish dished out by the instigators & rioters...... the response of the SAR government & the general public ....I beg to defer.....! Majority of Hong Kongers are devout of common sense....PERIOD.....!!! Only a handful of them are enlightened......!!! The rest are brainwashed Zombies......!!!
China should forgo Hong Kong and use Shenzen as financial Centre. US threat of using sanctions on CHINA will always be there. Whether Hong Kong is given greater autonomy or not. They will demand independence later. Where it is causing you pain remove it. Why do you want to keep it.
Looking back the mentality of HK back then and HK riots today, I believe HK wanted to juggle between the major powers the way Singapore did, however, the HKers would never have the discipline as Lee’s Singapore does. It is destined to become a second class Asian city in the 21st century.
I hope the Central government maintains a hands-off approach regarding HK's ongoing riots. let these fuckers fuck up their own city and turn HK into a hellhole. let these mother fuckers suffer. it really doesn't effect the mainland anyway.
@@jnhg9808 Yes, I have the same thinking, China stands to lose nothing from riot in HK, The central government can chose to do nothing, and let HK to rot by it's own doing
disturbing truth: is demicracy good? yes it is. but democracy is an outcome than a precondition, and there are multiple forms of it. Japan flied not because of democracy but because their hardworking and asian wars, Korean took off even during thr martial rule. Even HK itself, made the current wealth because its unique geopolitical position and super hardworking Chinese (very diff from the mobs we are seeing on the street nowadays, they are hopeless), not because of democracy.
LKY was absolutely right, he saw this way back already that the final problem is US vs China, while HK is just a chess piece used for US interest whenever.
This situation developed through time, when the HK and other Chinese living outside of China, thought they were better off with their prosperity while mainland Chinese were poor and underprivileged. Culture has its richness which cannot be altered or trivialized. Prosperity can; now that it is happening it is normal for the mainland Chinese to feel superior. It is their turn and has to be accepted as normal
This interview was conducted in late 1992 after the Barcelona Olympic Games, when Bill Clinton just got elected, when the West is still basking in the "victory" over the Eastern Bloc after the collapse of the USSR and her Eastern European satellite states, less than 5 years before the economic crisis in East and Southeast Asia.
it is so amusing that the interviewer tried his ass off so hard to outsmart the late Mr. Lee. saw some (in fact many) interviewer or journalist with this kinda attitude and if so, how can the media be fair minded?
Lucky Singaporean to have this leader, lucky China to have this rival (and also lots of good leaders). Lucky Lky who only has a small amount of citizens to manage, not lucky China who needs to deal with 56 nations and HT citizens.
Some arrogant people in Hong Kong thought they were "superior", such that as citizens of a "special" city of China, should be able to sit on equal grounds with the white Brit and CCP to "negotiate" on issues of the transition... But the truth is? Looking back today (19.08.27): Although Tang had the wisdom and open mind to give Hong Kong people a chance of 50 years to show mainland people that they are indeed "better", it takes a mere 22 years for the world to see Tang had been fooled... Today, many cities in China have already surpassed Hong Kong in almost every way - establishments, life and people quality. Yet Hong Hong has deteriorated into a city full of irrational madness; a city full of poor quality people with a mentality low enough to destroy a place they live, plus a majority of silent cowards who have no guts to stand up against bullies. Democracy American style will not work for Hong Kong, at least as of today... People here do not have the wisdom/mentality to make logical/rational judgments/decisions.
Do you have any idea on HK reserves ? If you view this round protests as pure demand of democracy, then you have a point. However , when comes to integrity of handling huge pile of reserves...you better find out what had happened since last autumn , and why the tycoons on the surface obeyed to the request of CCP to plea for peace but in less than 24 hours their huge chunk of monies is OUT of HK Take notice of the latest changes in reporting, and what they are trying to hide from Hong Kongers.
@ WJ T Hong Kong Stock Exchange on Wednesday (11 Sep 19 )said it was offering to buy the London Stock Exchange for about $36.6 billion. Thanks for the info markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/hong-kong-stock-exchange-offers-37-billion-london-stock-exchange-2019-9-1028515654
To make an adult with 7 years old boy mentality fully understand the state of affair in Asia and Geo political issues in just an hour interview can be tedious even for an experienced statesman.
@@kohmk2329 The current situation in Hong Kong is mainly due to the improper management by the Hong Kong Gov and PRC since 1997. As a Hongkonger, honestly, I am fine with no liberty as long as the government is responsible, credible and visionary. Singapore is so blessed to have Mr. Lee.
香港要清楚现在的地位。 HK has to understand where they stand now. There will be a point that people in other part of world is sick of the news and hope china take real action . By then people will stand to agree what china does is right and justify. Hope HK can see further . Good luck
Amazing interview...... one of the great thinkers of our times.....! But why this interviewer who can't even speak proper English.....! What is with the constant interruption, whenever he does not hear the answers that he wanted to hear .....! Fortunately, LKY was a great lawyer, statesman and public speaker....hence, he was able to side step all the loaded booby traps that came disguised as questions....!
I respect LKY because he is pragmatic. The whole issue of today is NOT about democracy, it is about integrity, trust, respect that HK took few decades to convince the international community to recognize it as International Financial Centre. Now? what is left? i am more interested to find out how ...in coming days HK 's authority report the reserves and it's cash flow. If there is any ambiguity mentioned on "special situation"... then we know what exactly is the root cause of the problem.
Hong Kong will never become a forward theatre for the promotion of the 'higher alliance objective'. Lee Kuan Yew will never identify with the democracy movement in Hong Kong. Hong Kong will never become Singapore.
i can only assume Mr Lee is sympathetic to HK n i only assume he may felt compelled to tell HK ppl the logic behind. today am just sad to see HK youths n many others are used as a pawn.
Most young people in Hong Kong are afraid that Hong Kong will economically lose out to other cities in China, that's why they are politically committing suicide. Beijing will only hasten its efforts to side step Hong Kong as an economic power house.
@@NewmaticKe My native tongue is “Wu", and I didn't learn to speak Mandarin until primary school. It was somewhat painful, and I was also disadvantaged in my university entry exam. To this day, I still couldn't tell the differences between e.g. "en" and "eng". I take pride in the "Wu" dialect, but at the same time I know the language has next to zero commercial value: a "Wu" dialect speaker will most likely be able to speak Mandarin. I think for many people from Hong Kong, they are good at neither English nor Mandarin, and insist that everyone should speak Cantonese. While I have no question in the cultural and aesthetic values of Cantonese, the reality is that it no longer has much relevant commercially speaking. Being born in Hong Kong has distinctive advantages, if you are open minded. But if you are close minded, then just like close minded people everywhere in the world, you will be abandoned by the market.
@@jianwen5760321 Some years ago I was visiting a factory in Zhejiang As a foreigner I had to act as translator between a Hong Kong customer (who spoke Cantonese & some English) and the factory owner (who spoke Mandarin and the local dialect). The language policy in Singapore supports our strength in diversify. The formulation of this policy more than 50 years ago is really quite interesting and serves Singapore very well until today. The details of which can be found in Lee Kuan Yew's memoirs.
Singapore's semi democracy is superior to both Western style democracy and Communist China. China should stop following western philosopher Karl Marx communist ideas and instead follow eastern philosopher king Lee Kuan Yew successful Singapore model.
As a matter of fact, that is what exactly happened since 1980s. Singapore was a template when Deng Xiaoping adopted the Open Door Policy. Yet Singapore is just a city-country, whose system cannot be just copied to deal with the more complicated situation in China. Today's China is hardly a communist state, even Forbes use "state capitalism" to describe China's system. My experience is, if someone always uses "CCP" instead of "Chinese Government" when discussing China, it is almost for sure his position is anti-China.
@@HiHi-yl9wd his genuine understanding of China only begun when SG had gotten swindled In Suzhou Industrial Park. Red Capitalists, you should call it. Until today, do you think the current cabinet dare to forget what he preached about Balance of Power in Asia Pacific Region?
2019 proved Lee was right
it was like a college professor patiently break down a math problem for a low grade primary school student.
ironic coming from you, if he's a primary sch student then ur what? kindergarten?
@@lycan2494 i am not unhappy about it... at least i dont pretend to be sth
Exactly
Great foresight by the great LKY. and what he said back in 1992, stills hold true till today.
he gave this speech 20 years ago and got bad remarks from Hong Kongers saying he speak nonsense, how naive these hong kongers are.
Some hated him for it. He is a thoughtful straight talker. He backed his statement with analysis.
@@debl5848 Those who hated him is either naive in Politics or doesn't want to face the reality
@Qtri Nity 23.3.2015那天李光耀去世了。
I love my mother country, CHINA. - from Hongkong , 2019.
WOW. LKY saw this way back already that the west is using HK as a chess piece.
math he has sixth sense lol. He even predicted rise of china since the 60s
厉害！“香港只是一颗棋子，交手的是中国和美国。”
准确的说是卒子
但是俗语亦云 小卒子过河顶只車
而且国际象棋的规则 卒子下底 可以升级成后
但是只能往前 no turning back 一步走错 只有拿来和对手兑子的命
LKY great decision to advise their citizens to learn Chinese Mandarin or keep Chinese Mandarin as a mother tongue is why now SG could be the bridge accessible both from the west and the east.
Allen Duckburger Mizmowitz he’s a grandmaster...
Hong Kong don't mind being ruled by westerners but they have problem bring ruled by China. Haha.
@David Lee my point exactly
@David Lee You're a wise man, sir
i mean that's also true for some of the radical HKers, but it's mainly that they don't want to be ruled by an authoritarian regime, with laws that can arrest you easier than laws that are used by democratic countries. But yeah, it's sad to see HK disrespecting China and its people and also kinda sad to see Hkers waving the British colonial flag, and American flags.
They mind both. Just that they believe they will have better life seeing what happen in China. They just want their freedom.
It’s amazing that Mr. Lee is so patient with this idiotic and rude interviewer.
Interviewer is such a rude idiot.
@@VST88888 not true
@@yeusean HK has more dumb people than smart people.
That is because Lee Kean Yew sympathises the guy. He understands his frustration. If Lee Kuan yew were to be in HK, he might face the same issue.
He is advising HK not to go head to head with mainland. The westerns government aren't that good also.... and their sentiments has always been used as a tool to prick China.
Hong Kong people tend to be rude and selfish... we see it everywhere unlike the Japanese or Taiwanese who are a bit more refined ... hard trait & habit to break off
This is more than 20 years ago... and he already know hk is a chess piece. I love you ah gong !
"Hong Kong was moved as a pawn on a chess board". This great man had warned Hong Kong 20 years ago, but Hong Kong people had turned a deaf ear on him. Just look at Hong Kong now. Enough said.
The interviewer obviously knows nothing about chess. A pawn can be promoted to whatever piece, even a queen. But hong kong has already missed the chance.
So the consequence is to be traded off to opponent for time and space.
Lol you read one line and you think you know the rest.
Always impressed with 李光耀, he was a good man, clever and responsible.
LKY very insightful
Such a foresight that is relevant till today!
In the East, the main object is to have a *well-ordered society* so that everybody can have maximum enjoyment of his freedoms. This freedom can only exist in an *ordered state* and *not in a natural state of contention and anarchy.*
Lee Kuan Yew
在东方的国度里，最主要的使命是要建设一个＊有纪律的社会＊，那么每一个人就可以从中享受最高的＊自由＊。这种＊自由＊只可以建立在一个＊拥有纪律＊社会。而不是存在一个充满争论和无政府主义的状态之中。
师城国父：李光耀
don't forget about his claim on Balance of Power, and the wisdom behind it.
Bullshit. Just look at Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea. Thriving democracies.
@@cloudreaver lol no
@@cloudreaver You are funny.
The economy is the ultimate purpose of all modern-day political ideals, be it communism and capitalism. Those who go into politics without this understanding are bound to fail because they know not where they tread.
李光耀摇头那下，感觉心里在说:这样的水平的问题都好意思提出来。。。
他有几次声调提高是不耐烦了。不过还是拉回来了。老子忍了你好久了。香港人英语真的够差
respect 李光耀4ever
That is wisest speech about Hong Kong that I have heard
He shorts of saying, HongKong is only a playing field for the 2 big players , that is China and USA. Very accurate analysis from very high helicopter points of view. The whole world just couldn’t care less about this insignificant small dot.
Hahahhah 😂😂😂 🚁 helicopter 😂😂😂😂😂
Not sure if it's he's interested to hear LKY speak or interviewers wanna air his opinion
as humans they are equal, as minds, the interviewer was .... as English speaker he was even worse than my 6 yrs old daughter. And he was rude in the way he talked to Mr Lee
李光耀看的是真清楚，伟人
政經的確不太可能一分為二，這點李說的倒是完全正確，如同現今2019的NBA、BZ事件，PRC用自己的經濟影響力去左右美國的政治正確。
@@jyc210 最近形式有些不樂觀，NBA寧願放下巨大經濟利益也要跟中國對著幹，說明美国国内已經形成一定形式統一，接下來中國領導人任務很重。如何把民族團結情緒利用好又不失控。對美如何不失國格，又不過分升級對抗。還要在經濟上穩住走好。祖國加油
@@changcharles1857 你沒update到最新資訊吧，NBA總裁Silver都聲明絕對不可能因為Morey個人言論自由而開除他乃至於懲處他，整個風向現在是轉硬你不知道嗎....前幾天美國國會議員跟總統參選人都跳出來聲明針對NBA道歉不挺自家人事件是種恥辱了。
@@jyc210 你仔細看我的回復 沒讀明白麽
@@changcharles1857 看太快看錯眼，抱歉
一国两治，港人治港，但是香港始终是一个省，李光耀先生的态度就是这样，你只是一个省，不是一个国，问题在于这记者把香港当一个国家来看了… 所以一直感觉好像鸡同鸭讲…
dandelion flor 一个城市而已
不是省，是和深圳，广州，中山一样的一个地方
@@karima7245 简称嘛… 一直说一个地方，有点难… 我也知道是一个地方…
因為中英聯合聲明裡講的不是這樣
哈哈！太好笑了。简直丢人现眼。主持人应该回去多读点书。
最喜欢香港大学授与博士而外面游行示威喊声不断，你那神一般的一眼，那是经历万千，对愚痴的不屑，高山一般的伟岸，学不来的，伟人心中没有苦，毋需理解，毋需称赞，一心一意只为这个国家。多想您能给那些港人上一课，伟人也可以无私地去爱，而且还是很深很深的爱，没爱，这个国家、会这么好么？您值得我们永远怀念！
Taiwan sunflower riot n current hk riot 2019 is the same democracy shitbrain effect which lee is talking about.
K Tan and guess who’s behind it?
The Taiwan thing successfully blocked the signing of the trade agreement with China and now suffering a loss the thing is now being called 大肠花 or rectal flower🙈🙈🤣
只能说李光耀真是有足够的耐心和礼貌来完成采访。智慧再次展露无遗，可惜香港人不明白？
越南记者
香港是新加坡的竞争对手，李光耀是个伟大的领袖，他的话有他的目的性，主持人狭隘而愚蠢，大陆不会给机会香港选出港独和对立中央的领导人
李光耀都说的非常明白了，香港人就是死脑筋。如果中共让香港有绝对自治权，选自己的政党当政府，那么中国其他省份，城市也要这个权利，尤其是西藏和新疆，这样中国就内讧，还会发生内战。中国繁荣富裕先进强盛，最重要就是人民团结国家稳定。香港因为100年一党专治（英国人），所有才会有今天的繁荣。
@@ktkska8886 李光耀也曾说过亚太需要平衡再平衡。。。不要只套他说你想听的话去打压港人
但大陆领导的家人，央视的主播都往美国躲，那是为什么呢？
中央的领导到底是中国的领导还是美国讲人权自由的外国势力领导？
说白了就是中央横行流美就可以，港人争取自由就是脑残？
中国人是够虚伪，够丑陋的！
@@wjt8264 大陆有多少主播，有多少领导，去美国的有多少?港人脑残是说那些打砸抢的暴徒，以为这种弱智的做法可以达到目的，以为美英真的支持所谓的民主自由，不是脑残是什么
@@wyzhang871 外国势力一栏表。。。你没看过啊？难怪口气这么大！
i am not here to explain American politics to you lol
2020年，看回来这video，我只能说 李先生穿越了
I hate this Hong Kong idiotic arrogant rude attitude who keep interrupting. He is not interested in LKY thoughts. His mentality is very adolescent.
typical HK arrogance. sit in a room with a great man and fill the room with his own noise.
He probably worry the future of HK too much back then to contain himself
Roy？
Are you Roycosmo？
Can not image meet you here ,but ,sorry i do not like your attitude since if LKY feel offened,he would not keep laughing
Seems like history i s going to repeat itself again in HK.
原来李光耀一早就已看透了民主不是一个好东西，所谓民主，就是要给资本家操控选票的机会，人民选出来的当选人，永远就是资本集团想他当选的代理人，如果这个代理不听话，资本集团甚至把他杀掉，例如林肯、甘迺迪……等多人在位其中被杀，只因触及资本集团的利益底线，然后凶手被杀，杀凶手者再被杀，如此层层叠叠地杀下去，根本没有可能查到凶手杀总统的原因动机，背后利益集团永远轻松逍遥法外!
黑暗的一人一票选举，请千万别搬来中国，中国人只要过自由和平安定好日子便足够，党争、行贿、资本剥削、贫富不均，奴役底层劳工，话语权只在富人身上，议员什么的只为党做事，国家人民变成获取私利的工具，并不重要! 选举黑手多如天上繁星，选票永远为利益集团服务，但世界上许多愚蠢的人天天上街争取一人一票选举，惟恐资本黑手不卖掉他们而失去为自己卖身后数钱的机会! 可悲吧？
@Tony Mok Agree with that
Cat Cat 我愛社會主義！
你是否知道，新加坡總統、議會即總理也是全民直選產生的嗎？他說這話只是為拉票，想新加坡人繼續投他吧，你看清楚世界事實，別做井底之蛙吧。
@Tony Mok 也不能单看数字，目前就算是大部分受高等教育，全民民主还是有很大局限性，因为普通市民根本没有足够时间与深度去了解政策背后，容易被意识形态与操控
@Tony Mok 民主只是决策工具啊，怎么感觉都被这个词骑劫了。。。例如待议民主，拉长时间进度选拔代表；不一定每人一票才是好的呀
天啊，李光耀预料太准了，说最终都是中国和美国的较力。
and it was 1992, 3 yrs after 89
李光耀太牛!
Great interview indeed! It provided an insight on how a leader of a country thinks and views economic/ political issues on whole diff level i.e. the political games btw US and China. The chess game is still going on...
No offense, 命运给李光耀的舞台太小了。中国是个更适合他施展才华的舞台。
其实，李光耀是中国的小舅！
当年邓小平见了李光耀几次，才把“新加坡模式”复制在深圳。
深圳成功了，其他一线城市就随着开始。
每个国家的国运不同，新加坡如此多民族，但是什么都没有，所以他们才能有李光耀先生。
Jerry Teh 很想听李光耀跟邓小平的谈话
@@刘飞-j6d 去买条绳子。
@@刘飞-j6d Same. You can read One Man View on the World & Deng XiaoPeng 時代 to know more about these 2 leaders. Worth to Read.
真是一代领袖啊，目光长远，对东西方的制度和文化理解清晰，所有评论都一针见血，敬佩。香港媒体水平确实是太差了。
Cecilia W 記者永遠有導向性的！他信奉‘民主自由’是唯一神論，所以他想導向這個最強領袖讚同他的意識形態！李光耀是在英國制度下成長的人，理應最信奉‘自由民主’，但他是個聰明人，了解到這種信念不適合中華的文化。他以強權的體制打造了自己的皇朝！現在中國必須中央集權制，一旦我國與美國平起平坐時，我們真的要思考，怎樣才可以將領導者的利益輿國家的利益形成一體！
HK must be pull into China one country one system for its long term success & prosperity. HK will have a big brother together as team player in the world.
Choose your battles wisely and you will win the war.
香港是中國一個地方，希望大陸和大财團食到盡之外，會漏一些面包吃，西方国家找着数就有，帮香港人只是香港人一厢情願，找大陸给香港範圍的事做，才是生存之道，搞對抗，只會另香港人吃更多的苦頭。
非常聰明領導
how can Hong Kong have a functioning democratic system if the electorate can't receive a functioning flow of information and a functioning press? How can there be a functioning press when the market and the consumers don't desire press organizations with journalistic qualities? Hong Kong isn't anything more than a mob.
Don't be naive. It's all built on military aspects followed by excellent leadership implementing impartial law enforcement with his/her heart to the people. Just look at Hongkong now. Until the fundamental issues had been resolved or without foreign interference, your hopes looked dim.
The Root cause of the Hong Kong problem was caused by the British colonial government corrupted with the private property interested groups which most of the people land was sold to rich people . This left no land for the poor people. Lucky for Singapore LKY control the Land property and built the government house HDB for most or their low income people.
Loh S Y so true ! But no one admitted it ! Always CCP’s fault !
Root cause is people who don't know the full history but think they can comment just by reading a few newpaper articles.
The young generation is so brain washed..
Younger generation all brained washed. Then the older generations are all like elephants in circus. Chained and whipped, now all scared like shit. Only will move a step when the govt tells them to. Stay in circus, don't come out.
@@carcarcarism yeah, the youngers in hongkong tell Beijing the power of Western propaganda's brainwash.
李光耀是一個偉人，我又想起香港的亂局了。
Great analysis and foresight by the incomparable Mr. Lee Kuan Yew. The ignorant interview. The interviewer is representative of the ignorant Hong Kong youth who thinks Hong Kong was a democratic state of the west.
exactly .. same thing with LKY statement on taiwan
这个事实告诉我们，把自己错当主子误判形势，会给后代带来多大的负面影响…
哈哈！你说得没错。
Wow Mr Lee had seen through every move of the American and British government twenty years ago
Interviewer should never force his views on the interviewee. He wanted go get assurance from Mr Lee but he couldn't and try... To comfort himself. He just needed to accept the truth. China will not allow Hong Kong to have autonomy to elect their own leader. China can lose Hong Kong, they can't lose the whole of China.
As long as HK refuse to accept Basic Law as foundation, they can nevrr get anywhere. They keep trying to act beyond SAR status, but doesn't have the means to do so.
Yes and he was almost rude about it. As an interviewer, he should have kept calm, and interviewed in a more professional manner.
民主的中国是四分五裂的中国，是台湾和香港的翻版，是不可控的地方政府，这样才不会让美日等国家感到威胁，这就是美国人千方百计要让共产党中国解体的原因
民主就是要中国内部分裂，英美的惯用伎俩
56个民族，东西南北地域差异这么大，民主早就分裂内战了。民主不是目的只是手段。能不能施行，如何施行民主就要看具体情况。最烦的就是无脑比民主
现在西方也只是伪民主而已，弱者羸弱强者强权，不管是中国还是西方一贯如此
好像是这么回事。
一輩子被政府貪官欺壓，讓你當主人也有自己的權利不好嗎？共產黨會怕民主是怕他執政的地位被人民取代，跟國家分佈分裂那有什麼關係。被共產黨洗腦，愛國不等於愛黨好嗎
At the end of the interview, LKY said that he have confident that common sense will prevail and the people in Hong Kong will recognise the importance of China in relation to Hong Kong.....!
However, after witnessing the past few months of rubbish dished out by the instigators & rioters...... the response of the SAR government & the general public ....I beg to defer.....!
Majority of Hong Kongers are devout of common sense....PERIOD.....!!!
Only a handful of them are enlightened......!!!
The rest are brainwashed Zombies......!!!
李光耀真是个历史伟人，能够把中共分析的像张白纸。 他知道香港想争取自由民主的方面，会面临重重阻碍
Sky 你想太多了就成了妄念
@@skysky1977 别丢人现眼了，新加坡也是代议制，跟香港选举没啥差别。
Jason H. 你白痴哦？ 新加坡的选举还邀请了外国观察员来呢，你以为像你中共自家几个人选哦？😜
Sky 你这种傻逼也就只会拾人牙慧了。为什么要一人一票？你这种傻逼凭什么和我一样都有一票？你干好你自己份内的事就好了，你如果牛逼，这个社会提供了足够上升通道让你可以直去高层，你可以在你能力范围内拿出你的见解和本事来。你办个百亿级公司，你的意见就能在市一级得到贯彻。你办个万亿级公司，中央也会吸取你的意见。你一个傻逼路人甲凭什么要和牛人们共享一票？你配吗？让愚民来领导国家？脑子坏掉了？
Sky 共产党什么选举都没有照样带领中国高速发展，你牛逼你上啊？共产党不让你入党了？你当个镇长给我看看啊，看看能不能弄个百强镇出来。再不行选个村长行不？是骡子是马你牵出来溜溜啊。你要说明自由民主好，很简单啊，去非洲印度自由民主一把然后发展出一个牛逼国家让大家开开眼吧。自由民主就像鸦片一样，福寿膏，名字多好听啊，吃了要你的命。傻逼瘾君子一点独立思考能力都没有，还他妈以为众人皆醉你独醒？
如果香港能独立，当年英国就不会归还香港了，也就是说在1997年前，英国都没有能力阻止中国收回香港，22年后的今时今日，以中国大陆之强，小小的香港有什么条件独立？头脑长在膝盖上吗？
缺水 缺电 缺人的香港还想独立， 做梦吧。
归还香港也就是因为缺水 缺电 缺人 缺市场（如果和中国对干）
1982年打过马岛海战便已如此了。英国明白到对付小小阿根廷的离岛就已如此吃力，遑论中国。这也是邓与撒切尔谈判时最大的筹码：软的不吃我们就来硬的，总之这香港你是得留下了。
此人智力和格局和李差了不是一点，基本听不懂李的话
李是明白人講傻話，這位主持人跟李都心知肚明中共要的是什麼，李是為了自身利益不講出來故意兜故意閃，而主持人就是要套出李的內心話
一个小主持人和一个政治家是不一样的
China should forgo Hong Kong and use Shenzen as financial Centre. US threat of using sanctions on CHINA will always be there. Whether Hong Kong is given greater autonomy or not. They will demand independence later. Where it is causing you pain remove it. Why do you want to keep it.
能制敌的，降龙十八掌还是蛤蟆功重要吗？共产，民主，社会都只是一种手段，国富民强就好
我个人还是喜欢蛤蟆功
@@therensdns31415 共产、民主，其实本质上都是从上层阶级或者说统治阶级所要更多的权利。这是发展的自然需求。只是凡事毕竟有界限，不可能无限索要。没有那个能力驾驭，也没有那个本钱索取。
@@therensdns31415 这膜的措手不及啊
呵呵，國富民強，中共壓根就不管你人民死活，國富民強起碼也得推翻土共結束極權統治
@@iphi5520 哎，我们都是死人，真是好惨哦。你们开心就好啦
Looking back the mentality of HK back then and HK riots today, I believe HK wanted to juggle between the major powers the way Singapore did, however, the HKers would never have the discipline as Lee’s Singapore does. It is destined to become a second class Asian city in the 21st century.
Not a bad deal compared with its status before 1840. It it opportunity wasted, unfortunately.
As a Mainlander, I wish the worst for HK. I hate HKer with a passion.
I hope the Central government maintains a hands-off approach regarding HK's ongoing riots. let these fuckers fuck up their own city and turn HK into a hellhole. let these mother fuckers suffer. it really doesn't effect the mainland anyway.
@@jnhg9808
Yes, I have the same thinking,
China stands to lose nothing from riot in HK,
The central government can chose to do nothing,
and let HK to rot by it's own doing
disturbing truth: is demicracy good? yes it is. but democracy is an outcome than a precondition, and there are multiple forms of it. Japan flied not because of democracy but because their hardworking and asian wars, Korean took off even during thr martial rule. Even HK itself, made the current wealth because its unique geopolitical position and super hardworking Chinese (very diff from the mobs we are seeing on the street nowadays, they are hopeless), not because of democracy.
当香港经济增长超过深圳，香港将会更有说服力。那位电视人物是傻子，李光耀伟大。
李光耀真是政治家，厉害，睿智！
LKY was absolutely right, he saw this way back already that the final problem is US vs China, while HK is just a chess piece used for US interest whenever.
Mr Lee was pretty much spot on..
无论发生什么中国绝不能分裂 100多年的隐忍不能功亏一篑 不能让美国得逞
不能分裂，不想国家变弱那屈辱的历史再次在这片土地上上演！
This situation developed through time, when the HK and other Chinese living outside of China, thought they were better off with their prosperity while mainland Chinese were poor and underprivileged. Culture has its richness which cannot be altered or trivialized. Prosperity can; now that it is happening it is normal for the mainland Chinese to feel superior. It is their turn and has to be accepted as normal
李光耀的才智比包子的智商高出千万倍，比整个政协委凑合的能量还大，他是可以桥接东西方文化差异和政治理念的强人，要是他管理中国，当今14亿人会活得更有尊严
我倒觉得小国明君未必可以坐得稳中原霸主。新加坡是李光耀一手打造的，而中国是传而继承的。
@@MsHollybible 李光耀的执政能力毋庸置疑。 可是有技术操作的问题他在中国顶多进阶到中等官僚。
肯定是牛棚兄弟帮，需要邓小平特地去把他捞出来的小兄弟。
@@nyukmeiyeow2792 兄才说得对，李光耀可以当个幕僚军师，但是做不到三军统帅。
@@nyukmeiyeow2792 是吗？ 他击退马共时你还没出生吧？
ken bibi 更有尊严，新加坡比中国管的严多了.
🇸🇬👍
This interview was conducted in late 1992 after the Barcelona Olympic Games, when Bill Clinton just got elected, when the West is still basking in the "victory" over the Eastern Bloc after the collapse of the USSR and her Eastern European satellite states, less than 5 years before the economic crisis in East and Southeast Asia.
Thank you
中国对于香港不应该是老大哥的态度，而应该是老父亲
If only this great man can live for another 5 years, HK will not be in such a sorry state.
it is so amusing that the interviewer tried his ass off so hard to outsmart the late Mr. Lee. saw some (in fact many) interviewer or journalist with this kinda attitude and if so, how can the media be fair minded?
Referendum 翻译 应该是 “公投”。 全民投票 不适合。比如新加坡的选举 是”全民投票” 叫 compulsory voting,不是 referendum.
Where I can watch the full version?
i want to watch too
Me too
you understand as much as i do
政經的確不太可能一分為二，這點李說的倒是完全正確，如同現今2019的NBA、BZ事件，PRC用自己的經濟影響力去左右美國的政治正確。
He is wise
Lucky Singaporean to have this leader, lucky China to have this rival (and also lots of good leaders). Lucky Lky who only has a small amount of citizens to manage, not lucky China who needs to deal with 56 nations and HT citizens.
哇。。。太厉害了～太厉害了～惊叹到无以言表。。。
这盘棋让李先生这么点一下，清清楚楚，明明白白。。。太厉害了～
大概明白为啥“送中法案”都撤回了，冲突还没完没了。
1，思维差异。
1）1.5世纪的殖民统治确实让香港和内地人思维上差别太大。我们经历的是统一思想，模糊个体。hk人是习惯了给个框架，其他自己折腾。
2）中央习惯了，以我为准。但山高皇帝远，将在外军令有所不受的，地方还想地方自己为准呢。
将近150年啊。这就跟亲兄弟重逢，本来小时候就不亲，成长过程还分开，一个城市，一个农村，长大了还要一个屋檐下一起生活。生活习惯太不一样，那就将就嘛。真的互相扯起来，谁能说服得了谁？
2，世界棋盘上的博弈。美国这个关键点过去要钱（就业率）现在也一样（关税，投资）。克林顿看中岗位，拉中国入世。川普看中资金流，搞贸易战。而香港......一直是那颗棋子。真的这么巧吗？中美摩擦比较大的时候，香港就真的遇到问题。还是香港转折时候刚巧中美摩擦大。
3，如果讲西方世界要的民主，早在84，85，跟撒切尔夫人谈的时候就开始了，还用等到89？到92？哇。。。一针见血～ 这目光～ 太凌厉～
对，中国民主对西方的好处很大。
当然，中国要民主，但不是西方那种一人一票的路子。毕竟还没到60%～70%以上的投票人受高等教育，有独立思想，不至于被带节奏。
是要真的适合国情现状的公平。
4，那时候英国就不想投入那么多。明显投入产出比不大，关键赢率不高。看那朝鲜战争。。。美国没赢就已经算输了。
多年之后，中国实力大幅度提升，英国自己还扯着脱欧呢，怎么可能为了香港拼？
想不明白，如果香港真的觉得民智已开，一人一票能做出最优解，为什么不在“一国两制”的基础上提要求。非要搞的对立一样？非得流血，点火，损失？
就一直提要求。一国两制，这样保证内地按照原规则执行。内地没话说。自己的诉求也能发出声音。这不挺好的吗？
还有种可能性，内地挤占香港资源太多，当地人不乐意了。。。
从教育，就业，住房，甚至日常奶粉，用品。。。各个方面都涌进去太多了。从最近港片就大概能看出来端倪。港女一直勤勤恳恳，内地女人过来就用钱铺的，没底线的各种手段上位。这个冲突呀。。。就在眼前，就在身边，就涉及个人。。。
#感叹呀，生活本身这出戏就太精彩。。。
hold your breath and see...
jalat... ´a pawn on a big chessboard ! ‘
That is... A big pawn at least. But even that is a bit exaggerating because this pawn cannot be promoted
Amazing. LKY’s analogy of HK being just a pawn in a chess game between the US and China made 27 years ago, is still so relevant today.
@@therensdns31415 ahh, I wanna be a queen.
no? maybe a rook, or at least a bishop.
no? fine. I'll just be myself.
wait... don't trade me off.
主持人最后都没有听懂吗。。
Some arrogant people in Hong Kong thought they were "superior", such that as citizens of a "special" city of China, should be able to sit on equal grounds with the white Brit and CCP to "negotiate" on issues of the transition... But the truth is?
Looking back today (19.08.27): Although Tang had the wisdom and open mind to give Hong Kong people a chance of 50 years to show mainland people that they are indeed "better", it takes a mere 22 years for the world to see Tang had been fooled... Today, many cities in China have already surpassed Hong Kong in almost every way - establishments, life and people quality. Yet Hong Hong has deteriorated into a city full of irrational madness; a city full of poor quality people with a mentality low enough to destroy a place they live, plus a majority of silent cowards who have no guts to stand up against bullies. Democracy American style will not work for Hong Kong, at least as of today... People here do not have the wisdom/mentality to make logical/rational judgments/decisions.
Do you have any idea on HK reserves ?
If you view this round protests as pure demand of democracy, then you have a point.
However , when comes to integrity of handling huge pile of reserves...you better find out what had happened since last autumn , and why the tycoons on the surface obeyed to the request of CCP to plea for peace but in less than 24 hours their huge chunk of monies is OUT of HK
Take notice of the latest changes in reporting, and what they are trying to hide from Hong Kongers.
@ Francis Lee You are indeed Politically aware and a wise man. 2 thumbs up
@@lauandrew834 look at what kind of offer that HKex put up to buy London Stock Exchange...
The script is written on the war.
@ WJ T Hong Kong Stock Exchange on Wednesday (11 Sep 19 )said it was offering to buy the London Stock Exchange for about $36.6 billion. Thanks for the info markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/hong-kong-stock-exchange-offers-37-billion-london-stock-exchange-2019-9-1028515654
哥你太一针见血了，这样好吗😹
To make an adult with 7 years old boy mentality fully understand the state of affair in Asia and Geo political issues in just an hour interview can be tedious even for an experienced statesman.
So much wisdom in his analysis...he is greatly missed especially by Singaporeans
其實真的好好奇，只是好奇。如果，李光耀先生是在香港，他會怎麼處理香港的事？他的遠見是毫無疑問的，但新加坡就是從甚麼都沒到今天的甚麼都有，是一個國家，是能用強權、智慧和規劃去打造的。但香港是在中央政府之下，沒有實權的。當年的香港如果落在他手上，今天不知道會是怎樣的呢？
他会在1970 就把香港独立起来
He won't let the situation to develop to the present conditions in Hong Kong , he would have crashed them before they are a threat, simple as that.
@@kohmk2329 The current situation in Hong Kong is mainly due to the improper management by the Hong Kong Gov and PRC since 1997. As a Hongkonger, honestly, I am fine with no liberty as long as the government is responsible, credible and visionary. Singapore is so blessed to have Mr. Lee.
@@thesingaporewealth1768 或許吧。大家都説香港是個福地，但我們最可借的就是缺了一個有遠見的領路人。好好的一副牌卻因為有些人眷戀利益和權力而被打爛了。
香港要清楚现在的地位。 HK has to understand where they stand now. There will be a point that people in other part of world is sick of the news and hope china take real action . By then people will stand to agree what china does is right and justify. Hope HK can see further . Good luck
Amazing interview...... one of the great thinkers of our times.....!
But why this interviewer who can't even speak proper English.....! What is with the constant interruption, whenever he does not hear the answers that he wanted to hear .....!
Fortunately, LKY was a great lawyer, statesman and public speaker....hence, he was able to side step all the loaded booby traps that came disguised as questions....!
I respect LKY because he is pragmatic.
The whole issue of today is NOT about democracy, it is about integrity, trust, respect that HK took few decades to convince the international community to recognize it as International Financial Centre.
Now? what is left? i am more interested to find out how ...in coming days HK 's authority report the reserves and it's cash flow.
If there is any ambiguity mentioned on "special situation"... then we know what exactly is the root cause of the problem.
👍👍Lee Kuan Yew, " It's the politics, stupid"
Hong Kong will never become a forward theatre for the promotion of the 'higher alliance objective'. Lee Kuan Yew will never identify with the democracy movement in Hong Kong. Hong Kong will never become Singapore.
Poor translation. Counting heads means 数人头, not 民意.
i can only assume Mr Lee is sympathetic to HK n i only assume he may felt compelled to tell HK ppl the logic behind. today am just sad to see HK youths n many others are used as a pawn.
Who is the host?
Wise man Mr Lee, respect. He predicted what will happen in HK, US will never adopt HK and Trump will not liberate HK. Hahaha.......
What do you expect ? The interviewer is HKie
崇洋啊！
Most young people in Hong Kong are afraid that Hong Kong will economically lose out to other cities in China, that's why they are politically committing suicide. Beijing will only hasten its efforts to side step Hong Kong as an economic power house.
看到翻白眼
The interviewer’s English is very poor.
reflect the actual level of hk people, and they are even waving British flags.
@@alexshawcn what an insult to asia.. Waiving a european flag
Their Mandarin also not too good
@@NewmaticKe My native tongue is “Wu", and I didn't learn to speak Mandarin until primary school. It was somewhat painful, and I was also disadvantaged in my university entry exam. To this day, I still couldn't tell the differences between e.g. "en" and "eng".
I take pride in the "Wu" dialect, but at the same time I know the language has next to zero commercial value: a "Wu" dialect speaker will most likely be able to speak Mandarin.
I think for many people from Hong Kong, they are good at neither English nor Mandarin, and insist that everyone should speak Cantonese. While I have no question in the cultural and aesthetic values of Cantonese, the reality is that it no longer has much relevant commercially speaking.
Being born in Hong Kong has distinctive advantages, if you are open minded. But if you are close minded, then just like close minded people everywhere in the world, you will be abandoned by the market.
@@jianwen5760321 Some years ago I was visiting a factory in Zhejiang As a foreigner I had to act as translator between a Hong Kong customer (who spoke Cantonese & some English) and the factory owner (who spoke Mandarin and the local dialect).
The language policy in Singapore supports our strength in diversify. The formulation of this policy more than 50 years ago is really quite interesting and serves Singapore very well until today. The details of which can be found in Lee Kuan Yew's memoirs.
香港凭什么和中国平起平做？这真是李光耀说的，还是你们自己剪辑的？
Michelle Wang 就憑中國大陸人如你的眼光與態度， 便知中國不配和香港平起平坐
中國的教育就只能教出像你此等水準嗎？ 難怪了
lam lam 滚远点，渔民。傻叉
李光耀刚刚说了，中央来的人不要太自大。你就已经开始骂上香港人了。
李光耀什么时候说了香港跟中央一样了。
他什么都没说。
Joshua Ng 不自大不行啊，又没被殖民过
@@michellewang5818 ......did you forget something?
。。这个主持人的英语，我要看字幕才看得懂
睿智
Singapore's semi democracy is superior to both Western style democracy and Communist China. China should stop following western philosopher Karl Marx communist ideas and instead follow eastern philosopher king Lee Kuan Yew successful Singapore model.
As a matter of fact, that is what exactly happened since 1980s. Singapore was a template when Deng Xiaoping adopted the Open Door Policy. Yet Singapore is just a city-country, whose system cannot be just copied to deal with the more complicated situation in China. Today's China is hardly a communist state, even Forbes use "state capitalism" to describe China's system. My experience is, if someone always uses "CCP" instead of "Chinese Government" when discussing China, it is almost for sure his position is anti-China.
@@HiHi-yl9wd his genuine understanding of China only begun when SG had gotten swindled In Suzhou Industrial Park.
Red Capitalists, you should call it. Until today, do you think the current cabinet dare to forget what he preached about Balance of Power in Asia Pacific Region?
香港只是英國佬埋的一個炸彈。幫大陸解除89圍困的條件之一。一國兩製根本行不通。爆炸之時就是英國佬再次抽水的時候。真是政治大師。