When people isolate themselves, spiral into delusional beliefs and after misfortunes just can't seem to find a way back..this was absolutely heart breaking
@@sallyozuna3883 Yes, I too feel so sad for Madison. She was 8 years (?), I suppose and hope they killed her first, that she didn’t dye alone of hypothermia, with mentally ill parents dead or dying. I cannot understand that nobody searched for them when they found the abandoned car with the still living dog.
Except 2 of the skulls had a clear gunshot wound in the back of the cranium and the remains were found buried in a shallow grave, plus the wifes gun was never found. So if it was a murder suicide how can all 3 bodies wind up buried together in 1 grave. It just does not seem plausible or possible.
i must dispute one assertion that Dr. Grande makes in this video: 9:54 "Presumably the killers were involved with methamphetamine/use the drug. It's hard to imagine someone on methamphetamine walking 2.7 miles, each way, through rough terrain." Actually, i kinda feel like that type of activity is exactly what a meth-head might do.
yeah...Meth gives you unreal imagination that you are ...supermen/woman...unfortunately, I've seen the destruction and mental decline of meth user since I first saw it in 1967...although I was afraid of it and never used it myself...I'll stick with the cannabis...coffee has enough stimulants for me. Here, in Sacramento, California...March 2022, we have quite an issue with Meth and homeless...many of them live in old trailers or RV's and just shuttle around when they are 'requested' to move by City and County employees (Police and Sheriff)....some of them walk a mile or more to fill up their old 5 gallon water bottles...that's a mile each way...along the American River Parkway...not exactly a walk in the park....rugged enough, thick brush and trees... You can see these people in their trailers/RV's, and many bicycles.. and yeah...the Meth is Strong here...
I thought I had roof demons once. Turns out it was a raccoon. Apparently raccoons like to defecate in elevated locations. Who knew? Equally unsettling, though, let me tell you.
Thanks for this analysis, Dr. Grande. The more I watch your videos, the more I have been reminding myself that being in a state of good mental health is not to be taken for granted. Your videos have helped me pay more attention to self-care and well-being.
I did actually find your analysis as interesting as non bullet resistant roof demons! Thanks as always, Dr G, for a humorous and insightful recap of a true life mystery.
Every time I hear this story my heart breaks for the little girl. I can't imagine the fear they had her living in and the unpredictable behavior from both parents.
I've known a few people that have got strung out on meth some years ago and when they first start doing it they could get all kinds of things done with their extra energy but once they get strung out on it and missing a lot of sleep they can't get anything accomplished but a life of BS.
A very interesting case! Given all the evidence, I think that the most obvious answer was that they simply got lost walking in the woods. There are many cases where even experienced woodsmen simply lose their way, wander around and die. I think the paranoid beliefs the couple held, and the meth angle just adds confusion to the story. The husband had a bad back, maybe once they got lost, and grew weak from walking in circles, he couldn’t continue to walk and his family stayed with him just long enough that they all died of exposure.
I am very experienced with hiking in forests and remote areas, but I got very lost about ten months ago. It's easy to do. And darkness makes it much easier.
Yeah, exposure does make the most sense. However, if a couple has a young child and they have even a little love left for for here knowing even if impaired they would have put HER in between them to offer her their body heat until it ran out I don’t know, but I’ll tell you who knows……Almighty God and of course the demons. Humor is a necessity in such mysterious situations But we should never ever make jokes about the spirit world!!
I agree I think they simply got lost and died from the environment. the dog was locked in the truck so they obviously felt they wouldn't be gone long at least that's my feeling on it. not being able to get back and let the dog out would make sense they simply got lost. but maybe he's right maybe they just simply killed themselves sad circumstances which ever way you look at it
Many people mentioned the bullet holes and the missing gun. However, I think that if there really was a murder, the perpetrator would use the family's gun and leave it at the scene to make it look like a suicide. Leaving no weapon or bullets is like murder explicitly asking police to investigate it as homcide
I have some basement demons that get here by tunnel. They live off pizza and Watergate salad, and occasionally tighten our natural gas fittings, although I suspect that they loosen them in the first place.
How you can keep a straight face with some of your comments is gold! I love the one about the prospect of living in a storage container on a mountain is not so attractive slayed me honestly. This was followed by the rarely seen non zombie like trances!😂
Alohas Dr Grande. Another good video. Two cases from Hawaii I would encourage you to look at is the Dana Ireland case. There's overwhelming evidence that the wrong people were convicted and there was not simply egregious police incompetence but an active criminal conspiracy on their part. Another interesting case would be Byran Uyesugi who committed a mass murder in 1999. Keep up the good work.
What a fascinating, sad and disturbing case! Listening to you unfold this story, especially towards the end with their beliefs in demons, exorcism and everything else made my heart drop. That poor little girl I believe was a victim of two very mentally ill parents. Your analysis and thoughts on this case were so incredibly well told, and inspite of the darkness of this case, I had to laugh when you talked about the demon theory! ;D Your work is just beyond exceptional in every way Dr. Grande! Thank you for every detail, and hard work you put into every single thing you create for us all! 💗
That last haunting photograph of their daughter Madison is very unsettling where she is standing alone, elevated or on a log, with her arms crossed with an irate look on her face looking at the (person holding) camera. By the look on her face, exhausted & mad at someone, to me, showed familiarity. She didn’t really look frightened as when looking @ a stranger but angry at someone she clearly knows like her parents. One or both of them were involved in this heinous crime. RIP MADISON.
This is a sad case all around. The fact they had $32,000 in cash, they had options, yet their behavior was erratic, and paranoid like you have stated, Dr. Grande. Things that make no sense to us, most likely made sense to them in the state that they were in. Who knows what thoughts abounded between the two. If the area had much methamphetamine traffic and users, it makes sense that the gun would be stolen/taken. Thank you for the excellent video, Dr. Grande!
Came for the professional overview, stayed for the bullet proof roof demons. My husband overheard this analysis and loved your dry humor. I think you have a new listener.
What about the “associate” of the landowner who met with them on their second visit? This person was never mentioned again. Maybe someone didn’t want the land to be bought by outsiders. What happened to the land following their disappearances? And, as others have said, what kind of flower lasts two years in an exposed location? If plastic, the child could very well have been carrying it herself as a toy. Girls that age will, especially if it was recently bought or found.
If it was a plastic plant I could also see her carrying it out for another photo. Her dad had just taken one of her the last time they exited the car, maybe she wanted to pose with it. I used to do things like that a lot
"If the demons killed them they would have definitely taken the money. All that traveling back and fourth between hell and Earth is very expensive and demons are frequently excluded from frequent flier programs"...🤣 I'm watch your video at 3 o'clock in the morning and I burst out laughing! Hoping I hadn't awakened anyone. Thank you on the great video and humor.
Hi Dr. Grande. Great analysis and good evening to you and your family. Peace and awesome times, always looking forward to your next new video, love, Janine Smiley😀🙂😎🤩😍
Some time later here, I'm thinking that you know, if you have roof demons...you could get them to leave by setting the roof on fire....start with the attic, that way you can still live in the house for a while...but that's not a real good deal if you live in a rainy wet winter area...naw, forget it, demons are probably used to that kind if heat...
Lol, yes! I also loved "The police said the couple was in a zombie-like trance. As opposed to the rarely seen Non zombie-like trances". I love the wicked sense of humor coupled with the truly excellent analysis!
This is so sad. We live near Eufaula and got to know Bobby’s mother and her boyfriend. At that time they had not found the bodies yet. Such a sweet family and so traumatic. It was finally excepted by his mother that it was hypothermia and they were walking around and got lost when it got dark. They believe they were planning to return to the truck because they left the dog and a whole lot of cash locked inside. I just always wondered how you freeze to death in October but it is a mountain and temps can get colder at night. It’s a very vast desolate place.
Dr. Grande, I’d be happy to provide any insight you’d want into the Tammi Garlin murder. I personally feel I need more closure as I failed to recognize what was happening across the street and it still affects me greatly. Is there survivors guilt for people who feel they should have spotted something, done something? I feel your take on the case may help ME, as I am still burdened by this years later.
Very fascinating case. Of course one wants to get rid of any demons that might be around, but roof demons would truly be bad. Moving around the roof and causing such a ruckus, I too would want to shoot those demons, but I’d need to make sure they’re not bulletproof. Thank you for the analysis Dr. Grande, keep up the great work!
I would love it if you could do the Tammi Garlin murder case from Portage WI. I lived across the st when this happened, and still own the home across from it. I fed the boy who was later locked in the closet. I talked with Candace extensively after she participated in the murder. This really hit home with me as it literally played out in front of me and we in the neighborhood had no clue the depth of depravity that was occurring. I will always feel guilt for not “knowing” more was involved.
Why did they bring the money? Why did they allow the dog to be susceptible to death in the truck? There is a strong possibility they were intercepted by alien lizards who may have been meth users, as well.
@@kayzbluegenes Good point. They only had his disability payments which would barely cover the most basic living expenses. Seems as though they had a secret side hustle. Drug dealing?
I'm not saying that they themselves were on methamphetamine but their behavior definitely mimicked the behavior of those who have been awake for a very long time
Good sunday morning from northern Germany and thank you for the breakfast video. I will enjoy. They are always very interesting, entertaining and educational. And thank you for your clear and calm way of speaking. As a foreigner I really appreciate that too😃🐞🍀
I got thoroughly lost in the woods last summer, despite a lot of experience hiking in similar areas. It is surprising how it can sneak up on you when you don't expect it. Darkness makes it much harder to find your way back.
It is sad that no one at their church did anything when they were reporting strange happenings- and I am sure appeared as if they were not in their right mind- especially considering they had a small child in their care. Sad. Very sad!
Thank you Dr. Grande....that really was an interesting case. I find your analysis on point. I do feel bad that a child was involved. I love listening to your channel and you. Thanks again 🙋🌹
Dr Grande please give us your impression of the woman in the Netflix documentary BAD VEGAN, Sarma. I just watched it I have no words to describe this woman. I am dumbfounded.😑
I felt the same way watching this documentary. At first I thought Sarma was just naive and in deep denial, then I thought maybe her psyche had just been broken down by Anthony, then towards the end it really seemed she was aware of what was happening and was also guilty.
So interesting you should say that. Yesterday I was wondering if others found the bullet resistant roof demon variety more or less fascinating (of just those two varieties, of course). Thanks!
I found your channel a cpl weeks ago and I love your sense of humor. Thank-you for sharing your thoughts about these cases. And Thank-you for sticking up for the demons. They've gotten a bad rap. 🤣
@@debs7368 I also spelled Hasbro incorrectly. I was all excited about being the second person to comment , I just couldn't take the pressure. I won't deux it again
@@oldhick9047 lol. Ikr? I was here so early, I commented, then just sat there for a minute all by myself! Until you posted. I thought my computer was broke! 🤣
@Pat Luxor Oh I messed this up so bad. I misspelled "Hasbro" and spelled Rogue as rouge (red) and people laughed, Then you tell me that I didn't really mean Hasbro but Wham-O. I should have stuck with the Ancient Aliens channels
Dr. Grande got one thing wrong here... Someone on methamphetamine would not only walk 2.7 miles through rough terrain both ways, they would also clear said rough terrain, vacuum it, and pave it themselves.
Ty Dr. G, I'm so proud that you now have 1.05 million subs, as the UA-cam note displays. I can't keep up, but if I ever get a few years of free time I can catch up with all your mere speculations! Now on to those pesky roof demons 😈
I had a girlfriend you had a schizophrenic break and that stuff is true you will start to believe in there delusions and hallucinations if you're not careful. luckily I snapped myself back to reality one of us had to be
Similar thing happened to me too. :( I think Dr.Grande described it as "Folie a deux". I would have never thought I could be susceptible, but it happened gradually over time in my case. And took me about a month of build up with her symptoms getting worse, until - snap- she went too far screaming about a vision she had and then I finally realized what was happening. Up until that moment I was somehow actually believing in her hallucinations-- It's pretty scary.
Thank you Dr. Grande for another great video. Would you please consider doing a video on David Crowley and his wife. He was the creator of "The Gray State" movie, which was unfinished at the time of his death. It's a fascinating (and controversial) case and I would LOVE to hear your thoughts on it! Thanks again
How could a flower still be near Madyson's skeletal remains years after she died?! Surely it would have disintegrated long before had it been left on her body soon after her death.
I’m having trouble even believing the positioning of the bodies. After years, the local fauna would/should have rearranged the remains. Unless they were somehow protected… like under a sleeping bag or tent… none of the positioning makes any sense.
@@heathernikki5734 seriously? Was it outside in Oklahoma on a decomposing corpse? Or was it protected from all but the lightest breeze of a passing cat in your home?
This is very sad to listen but I do agree with your analysis regarding their ending the deaths of this family. . . Thank you again for an excellent job, Dr. Grande!
"Demons are regularly excluded from frequent flier programs" ! I hope you have a good psychologist of your own Dr G - you need to talk! :) :) :) gave me a much needed chuckle...
Lovely Sunday morning, good to see you Dr. Grande! Always a pleasure to wake up & see a new video from you! You may not believe this, (I believe it’s your voice that sounds like a cat purring) you somehow make even the most gruesome of stories, feel like everything is going to be OK! Thank’s Doc!
Hi Dr. Grande, I'd like to ask whether you could do an analysis on the "Eight Immortals Restaurant murders" back in 1985 from Macau. Truly a grisly case, that one is.
I have followed this case from the beginning. No cause of death was able to be established. An animal would not have lined them up side-by-side with their heads and feet pointing the same direction and then place a flower on the child’s body. The arrangement of the bodies with the flower on Madison’s body makes it look very much like suicide
I’m relieved for Colton and feel so horribly for their daughter The two of them were in total misery because of their circumstances Meth can make you feel like a king for about 2 minutes then the depths of hell actually could sound appealing because it’s a hell like no other I wonder if the girl was abused besides any unintentional disgusting abuse from being drug addicts? Because that little girl in the last picture of her, looks terrified Dr Grande I was holding my breath about the dog I hope someone rescued him, glad you added that in Thank you
I'll say this though it's pretty messed up how the airlines are allowed to just discriminate based on one's dimensional status. My cousin is a dæmon (so not even the evil kind) and wasn't able to redeem a single frequent flyer mile and she had to fly pretty much every week for work. As soon as they found out they took them away and didn't even send her an email. I'm really glad you are able to bring issues like these to the light because airlines really shouldn't be able to discriminate based on what dimension or reality someone resides in, if they're in this one and using their airline, those are their points.
What saddened me in these cases is when parent's bad decisions cause the death of their child. Always heartbreaking. On the lighter side, your humorous comments putting to rest any paranormal explanation is greatly appreciated. Just wondering that maybe during your undergraduate studies you did standup comic at a local comedy club in order to help pay for your tuition. Love to listen your analysis. Take care.
Spot on. I must you made a mistake when you said it's difficult for someone who's on meth to walk 2.7 Miles I can argue based on my experience that meth doesn't affect you physical capacity to do any strenuous activity. Meth will keep the individual alert and focused on their task that's why German soldiers used it during WW2.
This case is pretty baffling but the two points that stand out to me are the cash and the dog. I’m think that if this was a murder, there wouldn’t have been any indication the cash was ever there. It was unlikely that the Jamiesons kept detailed bank records. That’s string-free money just for the taking in the middle of meth-country. Second, I can only believe their dog could be left in the car is one parent truly believed they would be coming back. To torture and starve their dog that way seems way too cruel, even for suicidal thoughts. I can’t say which parent succumbed to that feeling, but I think they acted in secret and alone.
When people isolate themselves, spiral into delusional beliefs and after misfortunes just can't seem to find a way back..this was absolutely heart breaking
That’s depression in a nutshell.
@@RealmCenter40 Yes.
hearts are broken every day, around the clock
heartbreaking for the kid, the two loonies I cldn't care less.
@@sallyozuna3883 Yes, I too feel so sad for Madison. She was 8 years (?), I suppose and hope they killed her first, that she didn’t dye alone of hypothermia, with mentally ill parents dead or dying. I cannot understand that nobody searched for them when they found the abandoned car with the still living dog.
I will refuse a lie detector test if ever offered, all because of Dr. Grande.
Same!
Getting lost and freezing to death actually makes the most sense to me. Thank you for your great analysis!
This has been my thought since the beginning along with mental illness of meth induced psychosis.
Except 2 of the skulls had a clear gunshot wound in the back of the cranium and the remains were found buried in a shallow grave, plus the wifes gun was never found. So if it was a murder suicide how can all 3 bodies wind up buried together in 1 grave. It just does not seem plausible or possible.
The temperatures at that time of year in that region supposedly weren't consistent with suffering from hypothermia.
i must dispute one assertion that Dr. Grande makes in this video: 9:54 "Presumably the killers were involved with methamphetamine/use the drug. It's hard to imagine someone on methamphetamine walking 2.7 miles, each way, through rough terrain." Actually, i kinda feel like that type of activity is exactly what a meth-head might do.
Exactly right. Couldn’t have put it better myself!
Yep, sounds like tweaker behavior to me.
yeah...Meth gives you unreal imagination that you are ...supermen/woman...unfortunately, I've seen the destruction and mental decline of meth user since I first saw it in 1967...although I was afraid of it and never used it myself...I'll stick with the cannabis...coffee has enough stimulants for me.
Here, in Sacramento, California...March 2022, we have quite an issue with Meth and homeless...many of them live in old trailers or RV's and just shuttle around when they are 'requested' to move by City and County employees (Police and Sheriff)....some of them walk a mile or more to fill up their old 5 gallon water bottles...that's a mile each way...along the American River Parkway...not exactly a walk in the park....rugged enough, thick brush and trees...
You can see these people in their trailers/RV's, and many bicycles.. and yeah...the Meth is Strong here...
I've known a lot of em because I used to use it when I was 20-22 (yuck) and it depends on if there was a "mission" or not
Agree
I thought I had roof demons once. Turns out it was a raccoon. Apparently raccoons like to defecate in elevated locations. Who knew? Equally unsettling, though, let me tell you.
damn trash pandas
A friend of mine got killed that way smothered by a big raccoon turd falling from a hole in the ceiling.
😂
One time I thought the Jersey Devil was on my roof, but it turned out to just be my uncle hanging Christmas lights
We have roof rats. Annoying but harmless.
Thanks for this analysis, Dr. Grande. The more I watch your videos, the more I have been reminding myself that being in a state of good mental health is not to be taken for granted. Your videos have helped me pay more attention to self-care and well-being.
I did actually find your analysis as interesting as non bullet resistant roof demons! Thanks as always, Dr G, for a humorous and insightful recap of a true life mystery.
Every time I hear this story my heart breaks for the little girl. I can't imagine the fear they had her living in and the unpredictable behavior from both parents.
i'd think someone on meth could walk 2.7 miles quite easily, regardless of terrain.
Lol I checked the comments as soon as I heard him say that.
Walking in rough terrain is why the army uses speed
In record time, too!
I've known a few people that have got strung out on meth some years ago and when they first start doing it they could get all kinds of things done with their extra energy but once they get strung out on it and missing a lot of sleep they can't get anything accomplished but a life of BS.
They probably just flew over the trees and bushes on roof- demon wings!
“Demons don’t get frequent flyer points” Your humour is delightful! 😁 I really enjoy all of your videos .
A very interesting case! Given all the evidence, I think that the most obvious answer was that they simply got lost walking in the woods. There are many cases where even experienced woodsmen simply lose their way, wander around and die. I think the paranoid beliefs the couple held, and the meth angle just adds confusion to the story. The husband had a bad back, maybe once they got lost, and grew weak from walking in circles, he couldn’t continue to walk and his family stayed with him just long enough that they all died of exposure.
Perfectly sensible theory.
I am very experienced with hiking in forests and remote areas, but I got very lost about ten months ago. It's easy to do. And darkness makes it much easier.
Yeah, exposure does make the most sense. However, if a couple has a young child and they have even a little love left for for here knowing even if impaired they would have put HER in between them to offer her their body heat until it ran out I don’t know, but I’ll tell you who knows……Almighty God and of course the demons. Humor is a necessity in such mysterious situations But we should never ever make jokes about the spirit world!!
I agree I think they simply got lost and died from the environment. the dog was locked in the truck so they obviously felt they wouldn't be gone long at least that's my feeling on it. not being able to get back and let the dog out would make sense they simply got lost. but maybe he's right maybe they just simply killed themselves sad circumstances which ever way you look at it
Many people mentioned the bullet holes and the missing gun. However, I think that if there really was a murder, the perpetrator would use the family's gun and leave it at the scene to make it look like a suicide. Leaving no weapon or bullets is like murder explicitly asking police to investigate it as homcide
Roof demons are my favorite kind of demon…..
Although, basement dwellers can also be scary so, it’s really a toss up at this point
I have some basement demons that get here by tunnel. They live off pizza and Watergate salad, and occasionally tighten our natural gas fittings, although I suspect that they loosen them in the first place.
Ever run into a gazebo demon? 😅
How you can keep a straight face with some of your comments is gold! I love the one about the prospect of living in a storage container on a mountain is not so attractive slayed me honestly.
This was followed by the rarely seen non zombie like trances!😂
Alohas Dr Grande. Another good video. Two cases from Hawaii I would encourage you to look at is the Dana Ireland case. There's overwhelming evidence that the wrong people were convicted and there was not simply egregious police incompetence but an active criminal conspiracy on their part. Another interesting case would be Byran Uyesugi who committed a mass murder in 1999. Keep up the good work.
What a fascinating, sad and disturbing case! Listening to you unfold this story, especially towards the end with their beliefs in demons, exorcism and everything else made my heart drop. That poor little girl I believe was a victim of two very mentally ill parents.
Your analysis and thoughts on this case were so incredibly well told, and inspite of the darkness of this case, I had to laugh when you talked about the demon theory! ;D
Your work is just beyond exceptional in every way Dr. Grande! Thank you for every detail, and hard work you put into every single thing you create for us all! 💗
That's all I think about is that poor baby and how chaotic life was for her.
That last haunting photograph of their daughter Madison is very unsettling where she is standing alone, elevated or on a log, with her arms crossed with an irate look on her face looking at the (person holding) camera. By the look on her face, exhausted & mad at someone, to me, showed familiarity. She didn’t really look frightened as when looking @ a stranger but angry at someone she clearly knows like her parents. One or both of them were involved in this heinous crime. RIP MADISON.
demons are as real as you and me bud
This is a sad case all around. The fact they had $32,000 in cash, they had options, yet their behavior was erratic, and paranoid like you have stated, Dr. Grande. Things that make no sense to us, most likely made sense to them in the state that they were in. Who knows what thoughts abounded between the two. If the area had much methamphetamine traffic and users, it makes sense that the gun would be stolen/taken. Thank you for the excellent video, Dr. Grande!
@@cht2162 yeah, that message was SUS
Came for the professional overview, stayed for the bullet proof roof demons.
My husband overheard this analysis and loved your dry humor. I think you have a new listener.
One good thing about insomnia is that I can watch Dr. Grande’s videos immediately!😄
Have a good night Dr. Grande.💕
You're beautiful :)
Same !!
yep. I gotta get up early.
Yes, really! I'm so tired right now. Great video, though. 👍 ❤💛💜💙💚🧡
Same
What about the “associate” of the landowner who met with them on their second visit? This person was never mentioned again. Maybe someone didn’t want the land to be bought by outsiders. What happened to the land following their disappearances? And, as others have said, what kind of flower lasts two years in an exposed location? If plastic, the child could very well have been carrying it herself as a toy. Girls that age will, especially if it was recently bought or found.
If it was a plastic plant I could also see her carrying it out for another photo. Her dad had just taken one of her the last time they exited the car, maybe she wanted to pose with it. I used to do things like that a lot
Do you think they were killed? Before this video I thought so but now I do wonder if it was mass suicide.
But if the landowner killed them he had years to dispose of their bodies, why leave them out in the open
Please consider weighing in on the swimming controversy
"If the demons killed them they would have definitely taken the money. All that traveling back and fourth between hell and Earth is very expensive and demons are frequently excluded from frequent flier programs"...🤣 I'm watch your video at 3 o'clock in the morning and I burst out laughing! Hoping I hadn't awakened anyone. Thank you on the great video and humor.
Demons..yes, they need special forms of transportation, that could be (I'm only speculating) extremely expensive.
Hi Dr. Grande. Great analysis and good evening to you and your family. Peace and awesome times, always looking forward to your next new video, love, Janine Smiley😀🙂😎🤩😍
@@dougankrum3328 🤣😂
Some time later here, I'm thinking that you know, if you have roof demons...you could get them to leave by setting the roof on fire....start with the attic, that way you can still live in the house for a while...but that's not a real good deal if you live in a rainy wet winter area...naw, forget it, demons are probably used to that kind if heat...
Lol, yes! I also loved "The police said the couple was in a zombie-like trance. As opposed to the rarely seen Non zombie-like trances". I love the wicked sense of humor coupled with the truly excellent analysis!
What a strange case 🐈⬛🏡. Glad the dog was found alive 🐕Great comments again. Thanks Dr G😊💙💙
Dr. Grande's theories, of what might have happened, are just as detailed as his researched facts on each case. Always excellent work! 👍💜🌵
This is so sad. We live near Eufaula and got to know Bobby’s mother and her boyfriend. At that time they had not found the bodies yet. Such a sweet family and so traumatic. It was finally excepted by his mother that it was hypothermia and they were walking around and got lost when it got dark. They believe they were planning to return to the truck because they left the dog and a whole lot of cash locked inside. I just always wondered how you freeze to death in October but it is a mountain and temps can get colder at night. It’s a very vast desolate place.
Accepted. Not expected.
Appreciate your work, videos, humor, & style.
Dr. Grande, I’d be happy to provide any insight you’d want into the Tammi Garlin murder. I personally feel I need more closure as I failed to recognize what was happening across the street and it still affects me greatly. Is there survivors guilt for people who feel they should have spotted something, done something? I feel your take on the case may help ME, as I am still burdened by this years later.
Very fascinating case. Of course one wants to get rid of any demons that might be around, but roof demons would truly be bad. Moving around the roof and causing such a ruckus, I too would want to shoot those demons, but I’d need to make sure they’re not bulletproof. Thank you for the analysis Dr. Grande, keep up the great work!
@@tinafoster8665 - Have you ever priced a roof replacement ???
@@NotChefCook Lmao 🤣. Nice.
Wouldn’t a demon just kinda float around…?🤔
I would love it if you could do the Tammi Garlin murder case from Portage WI. I lived across the st when this happened, and still own the home across from it. I fed the boy who was later locked in the closet. I talked with Candace extensively after she participated in the murder. This really hit home with me as it literally played out in front of me and we in the neighborhood had no clue the depth of depravity that was occurring. I will always feel guilt for not “knowing” more was involved.
250 am in NY! Thanks for amazing content dr grande! Going to listen while at work rn
"The Demons would have definitely taken the money." I love your channel, Dr. Grande.
Why did they bring the money? Why did they allow the dog to be susceptible to death in the truck? There is a strong possibility they were intercepted by alien lizards who may have been meth users, as well.
True, Dr. Grande completely failed us by not bringing the alien lizards into this case! Of course they were the guilty party! 😂
I'm really sick of those lizards !!
I think the money was to buy the land if they liked it; but I thought they were struggling financially??? 🤷🏼♀️
@@kayzbluegenes Good point. They only had his disability payments which would barely cover the most basic living expenses. Seems as though they had a secret side hustle. Drug dealing?
@Kay, that's right. A lot to this mystery and it might never be solved.
Your quips add levity to sometimes very dark subjects!
I'm not saying that they themselves were on methamphetamine but their behavior definitely mimicked the behavior of those who have been awake for a very long time
“Emotional reasoning”. The timing of your uploads according to social events are amazing.
I have roof demons. They are pigeon like creatures that eat a lot of bird seed and cat food meant for stray cats and stray birds.
Me too! Think their taking over the world!
Good sunday morning from northern Germany and thank you for the breakfast video. I will enjoy. They are always very interesting, entertaining and educational. And thank you for your clear and calm way of speaking. As a foreigner I really appreciate that too😃🐞🍀
Thank you Doc , that was really interesting. I hope that all three, rest in peace.
I got thoroughly lost in the woods last summer, despite a lot of experience hiking in similar areas. It is surprising how it can sneak up on you when you don't expect it.
Darkness makes it much harder to find your way back.
Just in time for Grande Time! ❤
Hi😉💕💛👋🌇⭐🌜Heading to sleep after this 😴
@@zenawarrior7442 Hi Zena! 👋 I guess we missed each other again! Goodnight, and sleep well! 🤩😍🥰❤💚🤎👍❤⚘🌷🌹🌺🌻🌼
@@LDiamondz Hi...yes we did. 3 hrs sleep here, Will catch up tonight hopefully lol. 😚Have a great day!🤍💚🤍💚👋🦄💐🍨🏜🌇💕
Very good video with some good lines added in. You're really great at this.
It is sad that no one at their church did anything when they were reporting strange happenings- and I am sure appeared as if they were not in their right mind- especially considering they had a small child in their care.
Sad. Very sad!
Thank you Dr. Grande....that really was an interesting case. I find your analysis on point. I do feel bad that a child was involved. I love listening to your channel and you. Thanks again 🙋🌹
Dr Grande please give us your impression of the woman in the Netflix documentary BAD VEGAN, Sarma. I just watched it I have no words to describe this woman. I am dumbfounded.😑
I felt the same way watching this documentary. At first I thought Sarma was just naive and in deep denial, then I thought maybe her psyche had just been broken down by Anthony, then towards the end it really seemed she was aware of what was happening and was also guilty.
Shes a scam artist too imo
So interesting you should say that. Yesterday I was wondering if others found the bullet resistant roof demon variety more or less fascinating (of just those two varieties, of course). Thanks!
Great video per usual, Doc! Could you maybe analyze the case of Pam Hupp from the TV series "The Thing About Pam"?
This could easily be a drug deal gone bad, and when you're extremely high on meth it is easy to do a 5 mile plus trek
I found your channel a cpl weeks ago and I love your sense of humor. Thank-you for sharing your thoughts about these cases. And Thank-you for sticking up for the demons. They've gotten a bad rap. 🤣
Congrats Dr Grande, I’ve followed you for a very long time and couldn’t be happier to see you pass that 1mil landmark….. well done…
Love that sense of humor and your videos are so interesting Dr. Grande I've learned so much about mental ilness!
In the words of Count Dooku: I’ve been looking forward to this.
0:50 guess his back wasn't bothering him that much.
Everyone knows that you must use "Demon Darts" by Hasbo, to eliminate rouge demons
And against *bleu* demons?
@@t2av159 LoL! I caught that too!
@@debs7368 I also spelled Hasbro incorrectly. I was all excited about being the second person to comment , I just couldn't take the pressure. I won't deux it again
@@oldhick9047 lol. Ikr? I was here so early, I commented, then just sat there for a minute all by myself! Until you posted. I thought my computer was broke! 🤣
@Pat Luxor Oh I messed this up so bad. I misspelled "Hasbro" and spelled Rogue as rouge (red) and people laughed, Then you tell me that I didn't really mean Hasbro but Wham-O. I should have stuck with the Ancient Aliens channels
Dr. Grande got one thing wrong here... Someone on methamphetamine would not only walk 2.7 miles through rough terrain both ways, they would also clear said rough terrain, vacuum it, and pave it themselves.
Wouldn't they have found bullets or shell casings if a gun was used..?
I think they poisoned themselves as a sacrifice.
if a professional hitman did it, they always pick up the shell casings
@@rhuephus Good point
I agree. This all sounds like a drug deal gone bad. Remember too, her briefcase wasn't found.
Thanks Dr Grande for another video, I love your delivery of these stories.
I feel there was much more to this story than has been released to the public, or has been determined by law enforcement. Too many oddities.
Ty Dr. G, I'm so proud that you now have 1.05 million subs, as the UA-cam note displays. I can't keep up, but if I ever get a few years of free time I can catch up with all your mere speculations! Now on to those pesky roof demons 😈
Thanks Dr Grande good timing just have 5 minutes to listen before starting my duties Iam good morning I guess you are good evening
Oh wow I’m really Early today! Thank you as always Dr Grande
Dr. G...can you give your opinion on the new DSM addition....Prolonged Grief???
I had a girlfriend you had a schizophrenic break and that stuff is true you will start to believe in there delusions and hallucinations if you're not careful. luckily I snapped myself back to reality one of us had to be
Really? That’s interesting but so scary I didn’t know that could happen. I’m also glad you snapped out of it.
Similar thing happened to me too. :( I think Dr.Grande described it as "Folie a deux". I would have never thought I could be susceptible, but it happened gradually over time in my case. And took me about a month of build up with her symptoms getting worse, until - snap- she went too far screaming about a vision she had and then I finally realized what was happening. Up until that moment I was somehow actually believing in her hallucinations-- It's pretty scary.
Did she recover?
Thank you Dr. Grande for another great video.
Would you please consider doing a video on David Crowley and his wife. He was the creator of "The Gray State" movie, which was unfinished at the time of his death. It's a fascinating (and controversial) case and I would LOVE to hear your thoughts on it!
Thanks again
How could a flower still be near Madyson's skeletal remains years after she died?! Surely it would have disintegrated long before had it been left on her body soon after her death.
Maybe it was an artificial one?
Maybe it just dried up? Dried flowers last for an eternity.
I’m having trouble even believing the positioning of the bodies. After years, the local fauna would/should have rearranged the remains. Unless they were somehow protected… like under a sleeping bag or tent… none of the positioning makes any sense.
I have a dried up flower from 2007 and it's still fine
@@heathernikki5734 seriously? Was it outside in Oklahoma on a decomposing corpse? Or was it protected from all but the lightest breeze of a passing cat in your home?
This is very sad to listen but I do agree with your analysis regarding their ending the deaths of this family. . . Thank you again for an excellent job, Dr. Grande!
"Demons are regularly excluded from frequent flier programs" ! I hope you have a good psychologist of your own Dr G - you need to talk! :) :) :) gave me a much needed chuckle...
That was an awesome analysis as always. Thank you Dr Grande, your great content never fails, too make my day.
Hey, CT! Are we actually here at the same time? 🤯 That never happens! So glad to see you! 👀 😍🤩🥰🥰🤩
Lovely Sunday morning,
good to see you Dr. Grande!
Always a pleasure to wake up
& see a new video from you!
You may not believe this,
(I believe it’s your voice that sounds like a cat purring)
you somehow make even the
most gruesome of stories, feel like everything is going to be OK!
Thank’s Doc!
I'm so sad for that girl 😢 She looked like she was trying to get them to take her seriously. Must have been so horrible for her. Everything they did
Came for Dr. Grande's excellent commentary.
Commenting for the algorithm.
(Creepy case!)
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Hi, Can't wait to hear your take on Sarma Melngalis.
There's another case you've covered that happened in Australia that reminds me of this, except the family didn't die.
What was the outcome for them? We’re they also complaining about supernatural disturbances?
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I can't remember tbh
The Tromp family? I'd love to know what happened before and during.
@@birdseed7420 I think Dr.Grande did that one.
Hi Dr. Grande, I'd like to ask whether you could do an analysis on the "Eight Immortals Restaurant murders" back in 1985 from Macau. Truly a grisly case, that one is.
Great analysis,
Thank you, Dr. Grande.
This story could be the basis of a pretty gruesome horror movie. The script practically writes itself!
I was in the mood for a mountain mystery. Thanks doc grande
Wow! This case is so creepy and strange. Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
Dr. Grande never too proud to drop a zinger in at just the right time.
Did the post mortem of the skeletons not give any clues as to the manner of death? I imagine a bullet wound would be easy to spot
Good point. It makes me think, if it was an animal, then wouldn’t the body have been moved?
I have followed this case from the beginning. No cause of death was able to be established. An animal would not have lined them up side-by-side with their heads and feet pointing the same direction and then place a flower on the child’s body.
The arrangement of the bodies with the flower on Madison’s body makes it look very much like suicide
@@jamesbennett9620 Thank you for the info, that makes sense.
We know who abducts and dispose of ppl in woods...
Dr. Grande, please cover the Lindbergh kidnapping! Famous case. Also interesting and strange.
loving the daily uploads Dr Grande!
I’m relieved for Colton and feel so horribly for their daughter The two of them were in total misery because of their circumstances Meth can make you feel like a king for about 2 minutes then the depths of hell actually could sound appealing because it’s a hell like no other I wonder if the girl was abused besides any unintentional disgusting abuse from being drug addicts? Because that little girl in the last picture of her, looks terrified Dr Grande I was holding my breath about the dog I hope someone rescued him, glad you added that in Thank you
I am so glad about the timing of your video uploading. It’s almost 10 am now in Saudi Arabia 🤣🤣
And now it's almost 10am in London, and 7PM in Tokyo! Good morning and good evening!
I LOVE U DR GRANDE
Congratulations on reaching 1 million subs, Dr. Grande!
Dr. Grande, don’t ever change.
I'll say this though it's pretty messed up how the airlines are allowed to just discriminate based on one's dimensional status. My cousin is a dæmon (so not even the evil kind) and wasn't able to redeem a single frequent flyer mile and she had to fly pretty much every week for work. As soon as they found out they took them away and didn't even send her an email. I'm really glad you are able to bring issues like these to the light because airlines really shouldn't be able to discriminate based on what dimension or reality someone resides in, if they're in this one and using their airline, those are their points.
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Another great case, great picks.
Thank you for the video.
This case always bothered me. Thanks for covering it!
Good evening sir, thanks for the work
A fascinating case.
I will have to think about this one.
It sounds like things were getting really weird at their house.
What saddened me in these cases is when parent's bad decisions cause the death of their child. Always heartbreaking. On the lighter side, your humorous comments putting to rest any paranormal explanation is greatly appreciated. Just wondering that maybe during your undergraduate studies you did standup comic at a local comedy club in order to help pay for your tuition. Love to listen your analysis. Take care.
Spot on. I must you made a mistake when you said it's difficult for someone who's on meth to walk 2.7 Miles I can argue based on my experience that meth doesn't affect you physical capacity to do any strenuous activity. Meth will keep the individual alert and focused on their task that's why German soldiers used it during WW2.
ha ha ... and look what happened to Germany . they started WW1 and WW2 and lost both
and all their teeth will rot and fall out
Good Day, Dr. Grande.
I do enjoy your humor! Expecially when you make your self laugh. Seeing you laugh made me happy! You should shoe more videos of u laughing
Dad demon jokes. Thumbs up. I’m here for it. 😂 great show as always.
This case is pretty baffling but the two points that stand out to me are the cash and the dog. I’m think that if this was a murder, there wouldn’t have been any indication the cash was ever there. It was unlikely that the Jamiesons kept detailed bank records. That’s string-free money just for the taking in the middle of meth-country.
Second, I can only believe their dog could be left in the car is one parent truly believed they would be coming back. To torture and starve their dog that way seems way too cruel, even for suicidal thoughts. I can’t say which parent succumbed to that feeling, but I think they acted in secret and alone.
finally you cover this. thanks doc.
We need a “Ba Da Hiss” drum/cymbal button just for Dr. Grande’s jokes. 😀
Amazing story! Thanks. Love the demon sky-miles observation, brilliant!
Doc, just heard u on an episode of podcast Crimes of the Centuries. So cool!