Why Baby Pokemon are Awesome! Sometimes... Ft. Golden Owl

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
  • Over the years many people have marked Baby Pokemon as some of the most undesired group of pokemon in existence. The fans usually want a stronger and better version of an old favorite Pokémon, and not a weaker / smaller one.
    But I think baby pokémon are actually pretty cool if you look at them from a game design perspective.
    Which is what ‪@GoldenOwl_Game‬ and I do in this video. Let's discuss why some Baby Pokemon work, like Chingling, and why some don't, like Pichu.
    Huge thank you to Golden Owl for helping me with this video!
    Not only did he record some of the audio but he did also help with writing the script.
    Check out his Pokemon Game Design channel here: / @goldenowlyt
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  • @Nuzzling
    @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +12

    Hey, sorry it took a little while to upload this video.
    I've been busy the past month because I finally moved out of my mom's place into my own apartment :D
    Thanks for your patience and I hope you enjoyed the video.
    Subscribe for more and also check out Golden Owl's channel in the video description :}

    • @arielmccarthy4892
      @arielmccarthy4892 3 місяці тому

      You obviously work so hard on these🎉🎉🎉

  • @GoldenOwl_Game
    @GoldenOwl_Game 7 місяців тому +24

    Variety in how a player obtains Pokemon is something that often goes understated. It is obviously important to make fun core system mechanics, but no matter how fun the battle system might be, players will eventually grow bored of them after a while.
    In the context of Pokemon... well... you do a LOT of capturing and evolving. So introducing new ways to acquire Pokemon via Babies helped spice up and/or created a new kind of roadblock to the whole Dex filling process.
    Though, as with many things, the original purpose of the feature has since been made unnecessary and changed over time. Which is why Babies became less prominent in subsequent generations. At some point the Dex just became so HUGE that creating additional obstacles became unnecessary. So Babies eventually just became (mildly) fancier pre-evolutions and distanced themselves from the Breeding feature, to the point of being encountered in tall grass like regular Wild Pokemon (e.g. Budew, Riolu, Toxel, etc).
    Breeding has since gone on to be its own thing, with the purpose being more about competitive battling related. Babies are mostly a game design relic of a bygone era, now mostly irrelevant and having no reason to ever be made again.
    And then Toxel randomly showed up in SwSh for some reason. Why that got categorized as a Baby instead of a normal Pokemon is beyond my understanding.

    • @victzegopterix2
      @victzegopterix2 7 місяців тому +2

      Honnestly it could just be because the designers thought it would be cute to give it a diaper that would turn into Toxtricity's belt, idk. X^)
      Not to contradict your Regigigas vid, but given that the babies lost their gameplay relevance, I think lore and design are the only remaining reason to occasionally give modern 'mons the baby status.

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +1

      Good calls. Maybe baby pokemon really are a relic of the old times.
      But we still appreciate them! :3
      Thanks again for helping me with the video! :D

  • @michaeleanthonyjr
    @michaeleanthonyjr 7 місяців тому +28

    Fun fact: The Slogan "Gotta Catch em All" is American made, and is not the same as the Japanese Slogan "ポケモンGETだぜ!", which just means "Get Pokémon!". So the western Slogan has no bearing on their decisions towards gameplay features like national dex

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +5

      Haha, yeah that is a totally valid argument.
      Didn't actually know that yet but it's still kinda funny :3

    • @MrAppleSalad
      @MrAppleSalad 7 місяців тому +1

      "Get Pokemon" seems to me like it means basically the same thing.

    • @michaeleanthonyjr
      @michaeleanthonyjr 7 місяців тому +1

      @@MrAppleSalad It holds the same sentiment of wanting to catch Pokémon. But it says nothing about catching every Pokémon. It's like the difference between saying "Defeat the bad guy" and "Save the world". They *could* mean the same thing, but they don't necessarily have to

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 7 місяців тому

      You're still encouraged to complete the dex in every game, and in PLA it's a requirement for the true ending

    • @michaeleanthonyjr
      @michaeleanthonyjr 7 місяців тому

      @@BJGvideos Encouraged by what exactly? I'm genuinely curious if the game tells the player to complete the pokedex, because I don't remember. All I remember is that the reward for completing the dex is usually a diploma.
      Also Legends Arceus is a different type of pokemon game, it's a spin-off with only one version where all pokemon that exist in that version of the game and there's no method of trading because it's exclusively a single player experience

  • @danielvilasboas6365
    @danielvilasboas6365 7 місяців тому +6

    Scyter need a baby pokémon for little Cup reasons.😂

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +2

      Whaha, yeah that is a whole different way of looking at it but it makes a good point xD
      + That would probably be adorable so I approve.

    • @jgr7487
      @jgr7487 7 місяців тому

      Scyter & Scizor should have been both evos to that baby pkmn, as they share the same BST.

  • @victzegopterix2
    @victzegopterix2 7 місяців тому +5

    Wouldn't giving babies to Drampa and Durant kinda recquire to also give one to their Heatmor and Tortunator counterparts? 'Coz t'would be cool. 👀

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +1

      I would be completely fine with that :)
      Everyone gets a baby!!!

  • @SerDerpish
    @SerDerpish 7 місяців тому +6

    0:35 Merch sales. The reason is merch sales 🤫

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +1

      Shhhh don't spoil the video 🤫 xD

  • @Nagatem
    @Nagatem 7 місяців тому +4

    Honestly elekid is my favorite baby pokemon, when I first saw it in pokemon 2000 I fell in love, I honestly love it more then it’s evolutions

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +2

      That's great! :D
      I really like Elekid too. But I also like its evolutions a lot :)

    • @LiveKF-5
      @LiveKF-5 2 місяці тому

      Same, I got a shiny in the first try in Pokemon crystal odd egg but it was gone because I lost the save file

  • @SerDerpish
    @SerDerpish 7 місяців тому +4

    If Tyranitar evolved into Iron Thorns, it would be the only pokemon to lose BST by evolving

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +2

      Not if you count Nincada into Shedinja :P
      But yeah maybe that would be kinda weird.
      Maybe it should have been a new evolution for Pupitar instead.

  • @LonesomeDevil
    @LonesomeDevil 7 місяців тому

    Came here from GoldenOwl's channel. Pretty good video overall, and I actually really enjoy your "simplistic" (for the lack of better word, because I don't mean it in a negative way) artstyle. It's probably a personal bias I have for being a Kirby fan, but still, it made the visual presentation charming and enjoyable.
    In my opinion, Kangaskhan would really benefit the most from having a baby form because its very existence is just lore nightmare as it is now. But purely for gameplay reasons, all your other suggestions were good as well.

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому

      Well thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed it! :D
      My artstyle is quite simplistic indeed but I like it too :)

  • @trumpeterjen
    @trumpeterjen 7 місяців тому

    X & Y had the right idea when they gave baby Pokémon three automatic perfect IVs. It was just a quirk from putting them in the No Eggs group, but it was a solid benefit and gave more players a reason to care about them. I didn’t mind evolving a few Pichu in the process of breeding a perfect Raichu with those IVs speeding up the process.

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah very true! I just learned about that yesterday as well.
      I quite like the mechanic because it's like an extra reward you get for raising up a Pokemon from a weaker beginning state.

  • @TheLegendaryyoshi
    @TheLegendaryyoshi 7 місяців тому +2

    The production value of this video inpressed me quite a lot. But the video itself was good too. Thanks to golden owl for sendig me here, I'll check out some more videos for sure.

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому

      Eyyyy thanks for checking out the videos!
      Glad you enjoyed it! :D

  • @BJGvideos
    @BJGvideos 7 місяців тому +1

    "The internet barely existed" in gen 2? Boy thats surreal because i was there. It was quite prevalent to seek out this info online.

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому

      It was there for sure but it wasn't as big and mainstream as it is today.
      So in comparison with today it barely existed :)

  • @ksawerx9277
    @ksawerx9277 3 місяці тому

    Accualy, you can get a paradox Mon early. After you fight the titan paradox donphan, you can catch it by going back to where you first saw it. It even has a special titan mark. I used one in my first playthrough.

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  3 місяці тому

      Yeah I found that out later too. Pretty cool :D
      But still no way to get an early Flutter Mane unfortunately :(

  • @hatsudopia5085
    @hatsudopia5085 7 місяців тому +2

    I love that classic magby sprite

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому

      It's great. He's about to sneeze x)

  • @justsomejojo
    @justsomejojo 7 місяців тому

    I remember when back in Gen2, my brother and me always caught pairs of each pokemon because we heard babies were a thing. It was a bit of a letdown not to get a baby Sandshrew (that's the one that broke the truth to us).
    Nowadays, I like babies because of the "make them available earlier" reason. Apart from Mantyke, all the Gen4 babies fulfill that purpose very well imo - I used the Roselia line plenty of times in Gen4. I even used the Chansey line once or twice because of the early Happiny egg. Munchlax, not so much, because 1% honey trees are awful. I'd love to see babies of Heatmor, Bouffalant and Turtonator - all pokemon I like a lot designwise, but usually come way too late ingame. Competitively, they aren't super great either and I tried using my favorites in that context before - spoilers: It usually isn't that fun.

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому

      A baby for those pokemon would work very well indeed. Even for Sandshrew because I think that would be very adorable! :D
      I've also used the Roselia, Chansey and Chimecho line before in gen 4 and probably wouldn't have as much if their babies didn't exist.
      Their addition truly help :D

  • @kdsketch
    @kdsketch 7 місяців тому +1

    Incredible video as always ❤🎉

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +1

      Dowwww thank you and thanks for checking it out KD! :D ❤

  • @teeweezeven
    @teeweezeven 6 місяців тому

    I wish they actually made all the baby pokemon from the Spaceworld Demo, like baby Tangela, baby Vulpix, baby Doduo...

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  6 місяців тому

      Baby Doduo would be the most adorable creature ever and I need it in my life now!!! xD

  • @00738
    @00738 7 місяців тому +2

    Yes!, new video from Antmat.... I mean Nuzzle ( I really like the way you narrate these videos btw 👍)

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому

      Eyyy thank you!
      - sincerely, Antmat... I mean Nuzzle :3

  • @PhilipMurphyExtra
    @PhilipMurphyExtra 7 місяців тому +1

    Baby Pokémon are undervalued for sure

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +1

      For sure! #JusticeForBabyPokemon

  • @Forten3
    @Forten3 Місяць тому +1

    I am late but like to see kengaskhan 11:06

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  Місяць тому

      That's okay.
      A baby Kangaskhan would be awesome and adorable!

  • @user-AADZ
    @user-AADZ 7 місяців тому +2

    Golden Owl honestly carries this video

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому +1

      He is pretty great indeed

  • @Dylster357
    @Dylster357 7 місяців тому

    Kangaskhan really needs one

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  7 місяців тому

      I could be so gooood !!

  • @IvanderAriya
    @IvanderAriya Місяць тому

    Awesome 👍☘️

  • @thequeenvsslime1
    @thequeenvsslime1 6 місяців тому

    its alive!

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  6 місяців тому

      Alive and well :)

  • @arielmccarthy4892
    @arielmccarthy4892 3 місяці тому

    Favorite baby pokemon... probably elekid they look so cool 😎 (I have a shiny one too)

    • @Nuzzling
      @Nuzzling  3 місяці тому

      Elekid is awesome! I also really like Magby.
      Congrats on the shiny ^_^

    • @miguelgarces8946
      @miguelgarces8946 Місяць тому

      @@Nuzzling Toxel is my favorite Baby Pokemon. It has a cute design and actually looks like a baby.

  • @A3STH3T1CS
    @A3STH3T1CS 7 місяців тому

    are you boy or girl?