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I was persuaded to take an Avc . I received £267 per annum and £53.4o was deducted in tax. My NHS pension increased after 21 years by £3.01 pm excluding me from receiving any winter fuel payments. WHY did I bother?
Definitely , the fit young illegal MEN will definitely be better looked after by this ANTI BRITISH GOVERNMENT. They will be well fed and nice and warm whilst some pensioners will either starve or freeze or BOTH what a bunch of psychopaths.
Leave our elderly alone! They have paid into the system all their lives... cap foreign aid and stop illegal immigration and you'll have the funds to keep the winter fuel payments
Zzstop sending money to ukrain it's not our war,stop sending money to france .he's not doing anything about massive immigration giving them more to them than people who have worked hard ,deport them
@@skellskell3772don’t forget all the British people unable to work,on the dole due to decades of abuse,terrorism,assaults and battery,deaf and blind,ptsd from public bodies bullying and narcissistic behaviour 👍🏼
@@adenwellsmith6908 why not triple down? No child benefits to those on 60k+ and no state pension to those with millions in the bank and private pensions above 15k?
@@SanderBelt-qz2ue So for those that paid the most in to get a pitiful pension you are going to screw them out of what they are owed? So how big are the socialist welfare state's pension debts? 16 trillion rising at 10%. So unless you and mr min wage pays thta £600,000 debt, and the £60,000 annual increase, then even the poor are going to be screwed.
I think you people don’t see the reality. The reality is that you Brits live a sh*t life as the cost of living goes up and up, you pay £200 energy bill in winter(if you use) and energy companies triple their profit, groceries 3 times more, your tax money is spent on suppling guns bombs to Ukraine(or where ever you want to ruin) and defence contractors make billions and you m*r*ns think that it’s all about immigrants 😂😂😂 seriously. It’s time to wake up
Anyone who voted for Leibour thoroughly deserves all this utter nonsense that will now happen. They have no right to complain at all as it was obvious to those with functioning brains that this sort of thing would be inevitable.
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
£10,000 for train drivers earning £60,000, 5 star hotels for uninvited immigrants. Where are we going to find all this money? Starmers answer we'll take it from the pensioners who have contributed all their lives. Act of a bully certainly not fit to be in parliament, let alone leading the country.
@@SamuelBlack84 They can stop the Trains and bring London to a full stop! thats the truth of it. We are back to London being treated differently than anywhere else. Money for London, Nothing for anywhere else😮😮😮😮🤔🤔😎😎
What is there to get......?.They are not worthy of the office as Previous videos prove .you cannot be Honerable if you change your mind to suit the situation the Time ..Its all on record...!
The UK is very humanitarian to give lodging to anyone especially during winter. The aid has just gotten out of control. We US Americans have it the same.
That low figure it's prob on MSM I never watch or read the other figures were from insiders and whistleblowers although last figure I saw on govt website was 11million last xmas if I remember rightly 🙏
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
@@S-North yes seen official figures put out... the other figures out there from whistleblowers from inside ,(not my figures ) circulated all Over interent everywhere ,whatever figures it's dispicable anyway 🙏
Take all their allowances away and make them live like the rest of us, they don't deserve anything anymore, make them for everything out of their high wages & most are already very well off & have huge pensions to come that the likes of Reeves could retire today and heat her house the rest of her life & this was the party that was set up to help the poor working class now its the party who hate the British taxpayers who actually pay their wages & are supposed to govern for us and do the best for us & ourcountry & hate the working class the more than anything. Newsflash for Angela, you might have a lot of money now but your are proof you can't buy class but illbet you made sure your parents who have never worked get the wfp even though you can afford to pay for them. Cretins the lot of them!! Make me sick🤮🤮🤮🤮🙂🤬🤬🤬
Take all their allowances away and make them live like the rest of us, they don't deserve anything anymore, make them for everything out of their high wages & most are already very well off & have huge pensions to come that the likes of Reeves could retire today and heat her house the rest of her life & this was the party that was set up to help the poor working class now its the party who hate the British taxpayers who actually pay their wages & are supposed to govern for us and do the best for us & ourcountry & hate the working class the more than anything. Newsflash for Angela, you might have a lot of money now but your are proof you can't buy class but illbet you made sure your parents who have never worked get the wfp even though you can afford to pay for them. Cretins the lot of them!! Make me sick🤮🤮🤮🤮🙂🤬🤬🤬
Some pensioners will die of cold and hunger. To say pensionets spend on drink and cigarettes is outrageous..PS yhey have every right to a drink and smoke but to.infer that is because they have so much extra money to spend down the pub is pure lies.
In my area there are pensioners whose only indulgent pleasure is a cigarette and a pint in the local pub. By removing the allowance they could find themselves even more isolated. It was a cruel move to take away their allowance.
And so what of they do? Such simple pleasures are only as expensive as they are because of politicians 'difficult decisions' to rake in the tax. As for the child benefit thing i would scrap all child benefit; if you can't afford a child or another one don't have one.
I'm 79 don't drink, don't smoke or have holidays. We just eat a healthy diet that I cook from scratch every day. I don't waste anything, everything is saved, frozen and used again. I make all my own curtains, cushion covers, clothes etc and even knit my own dishcloths. I can't do any more to improve matters and have to face whatever this miserable, lying man throws at us and make the best of life, I will not let this government get me down 😡
We need a rebellion he thinks he's untouchable he is certainly a dictator he needs to repect the pensioners who have worked and paid into this system migrants haven't and they get everything
@@MaureenSmith-tg2xz Dig up your garden and land near by and start growing and selling veg. Raise cattle and chickens. This would hurt them more than kicking off. Which is their aim.
Public sector pay rises are going to cost £9bn* while Miliband plans to send £11.6bn abroad for climate crisis. Combined, these plans will come at an estimate cost of £20bn to the UK taxpayers. Meanwhile, the government claims there is a budgetary black hole of exactly that amount. Really Labour - British Pensioners should ALWAYS come first !
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
absolutely delusional thinking they can actually save the planet .... all that money spent on whatever and they'll not be around to even know if the planet survives in the future ffs 🙄
They are send enough in home to the ilegals migrants Will have cozy nights in 4 star hotels and the Mohamed and his 4 wives and 11 kids need more than elders in their eyes.
Anyone in Labour outside the cabinet office should be against it. Cutting the WFP to pensioners goes against the grain of Labours core values. NO ONE can believe what KS has done!!
@@adrianpartridge5906 petition on 38Degrees Site many signatures to STOP mps being paid their winter fuel allowance, I've signed it but can't see them debating in parliament to stop their own it's disghusting 😡
If all the MPs stopped getting their fuel allowance that's at least £2 million saved straight away. If their wages were cut and claims for expenses abolished that's even more that could be saved as well.
@@Trendycosmetics-os6gh All it takes is to convince one other voter to vote reform. 4 million doubled is 8 million, and that's a 400 seats in Westminster. Shouldn't be hard
Foreign aid should be scrapped, climate crisis aid should be scrapped, that would ensure there would be money for our pensioners, but Labour are too blinkered to see the obvious
@@prosemiteantiisrael I genuinely thought it meant to say ate. I thought it was some Westminster phrase I'd not heard😆😆 Tried to work it out for ages😂😂
Every pensioner should have free electric over the winter months, they shouldn’t have to worry about keeping warm or heating up a can of soup !!! They done all there worrying over the past 50 or 60 years for god sake
Again the huge cost is because of politicians of most parties who've spent the last 30 years destroying our power stations and now want us to rely on toytown windmills.
Our Prime Minister thinks he's untouchable, he is certainly a dictator, he needs to respect the pensioners who have worked and paid into this system all their lives and yet the illegal invaders who haven't paid in anything but they get everything on a plate paid for from our tax money.
I’ve certainly written to my Labour MP complaining what they’re doing to pensioners. They’re blaming the black hole no mention of the 8.6 billion for illegal economic migrants and the money he’s spent on all the extravagant pay rises.
Last known figures out there were 25million per day of which then has raised to 28 million per day alrhough I've not personally seen the latter figure ...its sickening
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
@@matthewcook9404 yip and you missed the millions wasted on Rwanda the £500,000 to the flight to nowhere and the millions on PPE they certainly know how to waste tax payers money big time and I could go on and on . Think they must be having some competition to see who can waste the most money and they’re brilliant at it.
Yes, Starmer has spent what he's saving at the expense of pensioners three times over purely by choice. I hate the use of the term 'difficult decisions' as if they were somehow mandatory. They are his choices.
This is why we must sign the Anti-Starmer Petition. Apply more pressure to the Party. Let them turn on him too. Slow all their stupidity down. The Petition is called: Demand Change: Keir Starmer, Step Down Now!
Signed and proud to do it. Starmer is a megalomaniac out of control on a power rush. His only answer is brutality. 3 years for a nasty post online 18 months for rape. This is not humanity, it’s disgusting
If the worker's had a national strike over the way pensioners are being treated by this lunatic they might even end up with a decent pension to live out their final years.
Stop sending so called aid to countries that are better off than us. This was morally correct years ago but surely now we need to look after our own people first. I am disgusted at these politicians who really dont have a mandate, there by default and people who couldnt be bothered to vote
Cutting the Winter Fuel Allowance from our dear Senior Citizens was the most unkind act towards our elders in Great Britain. Whilst billions and billions of pounds are being spent on young Muslim Asylum seekers who arrive in our shores - zero history zero passports and all of the other immigrants who have come legally or otherwise. Where is the compassion for our elderly folk, it’s not as if it’s three thousand pounds it’s just three hundred pounds, but a Godsend to many many. It has been a slap in the face to our dear Senior Citizens who have been through so much. Sadly, Santa won’t be coming down the chimney this Christmas for them.
If they were they would be paying income tax, but this will soon be coming to them as well. If the triple lock is applied for the lifetime of this Liebour government their pensions will be above the tax threshold so libel to pay tax on their state pensions!!!
With the country in such a state time to look again at foreign aid why are we giving 480 million to Pakistan, 370 million to Bangladesh, 240 million to Palestine Yeman 100 million and that's only part of our overseas aid, some of that money would be better spent at home.
It's not the fact that he's done this, it's the fact that he moaned to the conservatives about taking it away, and he said labour wouldn't do it. Liar, liar, liar
At a revealed average cost of 400,000 each, and the story Starmer is OK-ing the 70,000 immigrants backlog = £28 billion cost right there in his first months as leader of this 💩 show. All for the immigrants. They come first - yet again!
Ok Labour you can keep your winter fuel payment and pension credits, just pay the pensioners the minimum wage. 37hrs x £11.44 = £423 a week, that will do me fine👍🏻
We pensioners are just cannon fodder all the time you just can't win come here on a boat and labour will give you..Money..new.. Phone..place to live.. but if you're a bloody pensioner worked all your life payed your taxes and your stamp..Tuff
Calling all pensioners to attend parliament square on the day of the vote and make your voice heard loudly. Else every pensioner with a Labour MP, make your voices heard loudly and proudly in writing, outside their office or in front of the local council office. It is time pensioners come together as a force for good to stop pensioners dying this winter.
Possibly the figure includes the pension credit payment on top and maybe when theyre on PIP also ,I'm not a pensioner quite yet but know many of course and thst figure tallies aprox with the added I wrote 🥺🙏,gives GOVT no right to include pensioners on minimum state pension it's the cruelest of cruel 💔🥺
Exactly. My gran gets the same. Its shocking how pensioners have been treated by this government. Of course they are frightened. Pensioners always try and manage without fuss. Now many are worried and distressed impacting on their mental health. Its scandelous and a betrayal to a generation that worked hard.
I actually thought starmer would be a quiet one , maybe we keep our heads down , boost economy but he’s a sly bastard . Not just continuing with immigration but everything he seems to be doing is so off. So much for him caring about “hard workers” he don’t give a toss
There's not even a shortage of train drivers!!! They don't even have to steer. Or reverse. And if they get it wrong, all the automation sorts their shit out for them!
Did not vote for him and his party. Us humans have short memories, things were in a pickle last time they had the opportunity to run the country. As for Starma he is a wolf in sheeps clothes.
Seems to me all those people who have worked hard, paid into the system and saved what they can for old age, are now being penalized by Starmer. This man will have a revolution on his hands if he’s not careful.
Starmer and Labour should be ashamed of themselves, a case of "I'm alright, Jack". A public servant with a final salary pension can retire well before 65, those working in the private sector don't have final salary pensions and a large number depend on their state pension which they have to wait until they're 67 to get. If the pensioners of today knew they were going to be treated so despicably, I'm sure they would have protested most strongly against paying national insurance (forced taxation). Two tier country, the majority pay through the nose for the benefit of the minority unjustifiably. Its just another example of the totalitarian state imposed by a minority party who had the support of only 20% of the electorate.
Many undecided … just sums them up they won’t have their money taking away and most likely have two home … disgraceful … unions should be calling a national strike to rid us of this lunatic who is power mad … Vote Reform 🇬🇧🏴🇮🇪🏴🏴🇮🇱
Watching Stasi Starmer being bundled into a police car, along with Lound Mouth Lammy, for his own safety recently, didn't surprise me. Neither did the missiles thrown by the crowd bouncing off the back of the police car as it drove away at speed. The people are angry at the cruelty of this labour government. Picking on old people is despicable and it will be the beginning of the end for Starmer. I can't see this government and it's full on lunacy lasting.
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Pretty good shutting down a channel that spouts proto fascism and spreads misinformation
Keep up the good work - and try and stop yt removing comments while you're at it 👍🏻
I support your channel you go head on keep going
I was persuaded to take an Avc . I received £267 per annum and £53.4o was deducted in tax. My NHS pension increased after 21 years by £3.01 pm excluding me from receiving any winter fuel payments. WHY did I bother?
Starmer is treating the illegal immigrants better than British pensioners
Definitely , the fit young illegal MEN will definitely be better looked after by this ANTI BRITISH GOVERNMENT. They will be well fed and nice and warm whilst some pensioners will either starve or freeze or BOTH what a bunch of psychopaths.
They are his future voters
REFERENDUM on Mass Immigration
@@reginaldbrooke3611exactly!
To him they are more important
Leave our elderly alone! They have paid into the system all their lives... cap foreign aid and stop illegal immigration and you'll have the funds to keep the winter fuel payments
I agree but the PM is following the wef agenda so he will never do this. Time for a different way to govern the UK.
Well said, couldn’t have put it better myself.
Yes, leave the elderly alone. 😁
Zzstop sending money to ukrain it's not our war,stop sending money to france .he's not doing anything about massive immigration giving them more to them than people who have worked hard ,deport them
You should be in Parliament you know what to do they don't 😂😂
Stop giving money to immigrants and leave our pensioners alone !!!!!!
Don't forget all the british people that think being on the dole is a life choice
@@skellskell3772
And all the foreigners that shouldn't be here too and family's with 4 wives and 6 kids with each one all claiming benefits
@@skellskell3772don’t forget all the British people unable to work,on the dole due to decades of abuse,terrorism,assaults and battery,deaf and blind,ptsd from public bodies bullying and narcissistic behaviour 👍🏼
And weapons.
@@skellskell3772 I’d rather have British folk on benefits than foreigners!
Kick him out - please
Why not cut all benefits to immigrants in order to take care of the seniors who helped build the country.
@rancher6820 The same country that Tories and Labour have been steadily dismantling for forty odd years.
Those immigrants become voters, so he will appease them.
Why not double down? No welfare and a minimum 38,500 a year tax code. Average wage, and there's a deficit.
@@adenwellsmith6908 why not triple down? No child benefits to those on 60k+ and no state pension to those with millions in the bank and private pensions above 15k?
@@SanderBelt-qz2ue So for those that paid the most in to get a pitiful pension you are going to screw them out of what they are owed?
So how big are the socialist welfare state's pension debts?
16 trillion rising at 10%.
So unless you and mr min wage pays thta £600,000 debt, and the £60,000 annual increase, then even the poor are going to be screwed.
I'm a pensioner, even if he changed his mind and we got the fuel benefit I would still want him out. . . . .
Absolutely 100% OUT!!
I think you people don’t see the reality. The reality is that you Brits live a sh*t life as the cost of living goes up and up, you pay £200 energy bill in winter(if you use) and energy companies triple their profit, groceries 3 times more, your tax money is spent on suppling guns bombs to Ukraine(or where ever you want to ruin) and defence contractors make billions and you m*r*ns think that it’s all about immigrants 😂😂😂 seriously. It’s time to wake up
Yes I agree 💯
Anyone who voted for Leibour thoroughly deserves all this utter nonsense that will now happen. They have no right to complain at all as it was obvious to those with functioning brains that this sort of thing would be inevitable.
You’re not alone there.
Pretty simple close the borders stop sending money aboard that would help and it would save billions
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
No, BILLIONS!!!!!
£10,000 for train drivers earning £60,000, 5 star hotels for uninvited immigrants. Where are we going to find all this money? Starmers answer we'll take it from the pensioners who have contributed all their lives. Act of a bully certainly not fit to be in parliament, let alone leading the country.
“I agree” 100%
What makes train drivers so deserving of so much money?!
@@SamuelBlack84 They can stop the Trains and bring London to a full stop! thats the truth of it. We are back to London being treated differently than anywhere else. Money for London, Nothing for anywhere else😮😮😮😮🤔🤔😎😎
EMBEZZLEMENT of taxpayers moneyy, taxes payed to run this country
The damage to them is all ready done , no body trusts this shower , totally out of touch with reality , get them out asap
They've done great for their supporters.
You're not getting it.
What is there to get......?.They are not worthy of the office as Previous videos prove .you cannot be Honerable if you change your mind to suit the situation the Time ..Its all on record...!
@maralynmitchell8261
I can only see half your post and it just seems waffle anyway.
@@richardgallagher4880don't engage he's a loon on here 24/7
@@richardgallagher4880Are you always this rude to women little Gallagher?!
Stop immigrants benefits for those that came here via an EU country 😊
The UK is very humanitarian to give lodging to anyone especially during winter. The aid has just gotten out of control. We US Americans have it the same.
Spending 8million a day to all refugee and asylum seekers. Nothing for pensioners.
That low figure it's prob on MSM I never watch or read the other figures were from insiders and whistleblowers although last figure I saw on govt website was 11million last xmas if I remember rightly 🙏
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
The daily figure was officially revised up, to now '16 million' quid per day.
@@matthewcook9404 So, it's 'ok' to throw away 16 million quid 'per day' on illegals, is that what you're saying Matt?
@@S-North yes seen official figures put out... the other figures out there from whistleblowers from inside ,(not my figures ) circulated all Over interent everywhere ,whatever figures it's dispicable anyway 🙏
Rich get richer. Poor get poorer. Take the MP's 2nd home fuel allowance away
Lol
Seconded
Take all their allowances away and make them live like the rest of us, they don't deserve anything anymore, make them for everything out of their high wages & most are already very well off & have huge pensions to come that the likes of Reeves could retire today and heat her house the rest of her life & this was the party that was set up to help the poor working class now its the party who hate the British taxpayers who actually pay their wages & are supposed to govern for us and do the best for us & ourcountry & hate the working class the more than anything. Newsflash for Angela, you might have a lot of money now but your are proof you can't buy class but illbet you made sure your parents who have never worked get the wfp even though you can afford to pay for them.
Cretins the lot of them!! Make me sick🤮🤮🤮🤮🙂🤬🤬🤬
Take all their allowances away and make them live like the rest of us, they don't deserve anything anymore, make them for everything out of their high wages & most are already very well off & have huge pensions to come that the likes of Reeves could retire today and heat her house the rest of her life & this was the party that was set up to help the poor working class now its the party who hate the British taxpayers who actually pay their wages & are supposed to govern for us and do the best for us & ourcountry & hate the working class the more than anything. Newsflash for Angela, you might have a lot of money now but your are proof you can't buy class but illbet you made sure your parents who have never worked get the wfp even though you can afford to pay for them.
Cretins the lot of them!! Make me sick🤮🤮🤮🤮🙂🤬🤬🤬
You're the reason why you're impoverished.
LABOUR OUT
Some pensioners will die of cold and hunger. To say pensionets spend on drink and cigarettes is outrageous..PS yhey have every right to a drink and smoke but to.infer that is because they have so much extra money to spend down the pub is pure lies.
In my area there are pensioners whose only indulgent pleasure is a cigarette and a pint in the local pub. By removing the allowance they could find themselves even more isolated. It was a cruel move to take away their allowance.
And so what of they do? Such simple pleasures are only as expensive as they are because of politicians 'difficult decisions' to rake in the tax. As for the child benefit thing i would scrap all child benefit; if you can't afford a child or another one don't have one.
I'm 79 don't drink, don't smoke or have holidays. We just eat a healthy diet that I cook from scratch every day. I don't waste anything, everything is saved, frozen and used again. I make all my own curtains, cushion covers, clothes etc and even knit my own dishcloths. I can't do any more to improve matters and have to face whatever this miserable, lying man throws at us and make the best of life, I will not let this government get me down 😡
@@barbarapatriciaharrison3853God bless you Barbara. You sound remarkable.
Apparently you can afford holiday abroad - its a load of bull.
Come on Labour get a pair and give him a vote of no confidence
Don't give anything not even a hint.
They wont to it .
Congratulations you have gone 30 seconds without mentioning the royal family or forrins
Trouble is if Disaster Starmer goes we get someone like Rayner, Cooper or Khan who will be as bad or even worse.
@@gwangi64 He is a Tory and Rayner is a good student of his.
If the labour mps have any sort of moral compass ,they will vote against this.
We need a rebellion he thinks he's untouchable he is certainly a dictator he needs to repect the pensioners who have worked and paid into this system migrants haven't and they get everything
He is not untouchable after the Trump incident there those in the UK who know what's needed
@@MaureenSmith-tg2xz Dig up your garden and land near by and start growing and selling veg. Raise cattle and chickens.
This would hurt them more than kicking off. Which is their aim.
@coc.... i guess you don't realise most pensioners cannot dig anything?
A stubborn MP with a rigid mind.
@@irenenoble219 They can use gardening sacks or large pots. No dig needed.
2TK = WORSE PM EVER
Get him out! !
It's time to stop the boats and stop giving benefits to illegal pensioners. They should come first
I’d much rather my tax went to the WFP than those illegal immigrants any day.
Public sector pay rises are going to cost £9bn* while Miliband plans to send £11.6bn abroad for climate crisis. Combined, these plans will come at an estimate cost of £20bn to the UK taxpayers. Meanwhile, the government claims there is a budgetary black hole of exactly that amount.
Really Labour - British Pensioners should ALWAYS come first !
2TQ wants to save the planet first.
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
@@matthewcook9404
You're the guy who said the msm is right wing.
Run along.
Meh, remember tiiice went to 🇺🇦?
Cost=400bn🤭😬😆
absolutely delusional
thinking they can actually save the planet .... all that money spent on whatever and they'll not be around to even know if the planet survives in the future ffs 🙄
They need to get him out
Lying lot
Poor pensioners
Shocking
They send enough abroad 😡
They are send enough in home to the ilegals migrants Will have cozy nights in 4 star hotels and the Mohamed and his 4 wives and 11 kids need more than elders in their eyes.
Anyone in Labour outside the cabinet office should be against it. Cutting the WFP to pensioners goes against the grain of Labours core values. NO ONE can believe what KS has done!!
Labour abandoned it's core values decades ago only some didn't notice.
Presumably all those MPs voting for the scrapping of the winter fuel allowance will not be taking their £3500 fuel allowance.
@@adrianpartridge5906 petition on 38Degrees Site many signatures to STOP mps being paid their winter fuel allowance, I've signed it but can't see them debating in parliament to stop their own it's disghusting 😡
@@shazAnddollysausageIt doesn't need to be debated! It is simply what is fair.
If all the MPs stopped getting their fuel allowance that's at least £2 million saved straight away. If their wages were cut and claims for expenses abolished that's even more that could be saved as well.
How many of you wish you never voted for Labour now?
I didn't Refoem UK for me.
I shamefully voted for Bliar. NEVER again would I vote labour, the party who pretend to be socialist. Liars.
Starmer is a professor liar
Want him gone? Work together
Tax evader.
Want Labour gone actually.
@@Trendycosmetics-os6gh All it takes is to convince one other voter to vote reform. 4 million doubled is 8 million, and that's a 400 seats in Westminster. Shouldn't be hard
Angela Rayner next, so what does it matter - this country's screwed, lets face it.
Foreign aid should be scrapped, climate crisis aid should be scrapped, that would ensure there would be money for our pensioners, but Labour are too blinkered to see the obvious
Ideology before practicality 😮😵💫😵💫
This net zero is a scam
Good for those labour MPs who ate standing up for our elders
Why is eating standing up to eat such a great idea? Did the pensioners sponsor it or something?
@@prosemiteantiisrael
I genuinely thought it meant to say ate.
I thought it was some Westminster phrase I'd not heard😆😆
Tried to work it out for ages😂😂
They didn't stand up and vote against it when it was being decided tho.. they don't care about the British not one of them
@@richardgallagher4880 😂😂😂 are they eating pensioners now
170 million for security for mosques , 50 million for security against Islam extremism against mp’s. Well done labour voters??!?
Very generous. Look at it as" a pinch of prevention is worth a pound of cure".
Doesn't matter whether rich or not, if they've worked all their lives
OLD LIVES MATTER !
Nope. Compulsory free Dignitas
They are making way to the new British the muslins.
Every pensioner should have free electric over the winter months, they shouldn’t have to worry about keeping warm or heating up a can of soup !!! They done all there worrying over the past 50 or 60 years for god sake
Absolutely 💯
Again the huge cost is because of politicians of most parties who've spent the last 30 years destroying our power stations and now want us to rely on toytown windmills.
and - dont forget, we are next!!
Every pensioner should be sent to Dignitas.
@@johnkitching2248 Well they can afford it, So YES😮
Our Prime Minister thinks he's untouchable, he is certainly a dictator, he needs to respect the pensioners who have worked and paid into this system all their lives and yet the illegal invaders who haven't paid in anything but they get everything on a plate paid for from our tax money.
Starma is a madman
His father was a toolmaker, and he's a tool.
Evil more like
Bloody Psychopath if you ask me
@@Julielee63
(D)evil.
@user-ho8ds7my7l Yes, judging by his actions and rhetoric he's as mad as a hat. A fruit and nutcase supreme
A real slap in the face for those pensioners that voted Labour?
I’ve certainly written to my Labour MP complaining what they’re doing to pensioners. They’re blaming the black hole no mention of the 8.6 billion for illegal economic migrants and the money he’s spent on all the extravagant pay rises.
Last known figures out there were 25million per day of which then has raised to 28 million per day alrhough I've not personally seen the latter figure ...its sickening
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled. Oh, and add on the £200 million taxpayers money to adapt the trains which are too high for the platforms.
@@matthewcook9404 yip and you missed the millions wasted on Rwanda the £500,000 to the flight to nowhere and the millions on PPE they certainly know how to waste tax payers money big time and I could go on and on . Think they must be having some competition to see who can waste the most money and they’re brilliant at it.
Yes, Starmer has spent what he's saving at the expense of pensioners three times over purely by choice. I hate the use of the term 'difficult decisions' as if they were somehow mandatory. They are his choices.
They created the black hole with frivolous spending
Words cannot express how I feel about that man!!!!
This is why we must sign the Anti-Starmer Petition. Apply more pressure to the Party. Let them turn on him too. Slow all their stupidity down. The Petition is called: Demand Change: Keir Starmer, Step Down Now!
@@evawat2019 grow up.
Signed and proud to do it. Starmer is a megalomaniac out of control on a power rush. His only answer is brutality. 3 years for a nasty post online 18 months for rape. This is not humanity, it’s disgusting
@@richardgallagher4880are your eyes brown eh ummm ?
@@Noddy21218
What?
You think you're gonna petion the nassssies?
@@richardgallagher4880 it’s NOT what ,…it’s Aye !
Who the hell voted for Max Headroom! Back Reform - Vote Reform 🇬🇧
vote of no confidence
Starmer did say his dad was a toolmaker we are now finding out how bad he was he made the biggest most useless tool in history
We will not forget who is for or who is against the removal of pensioners fuel allowance, and don’t forget the greedy train drivers.
Fare bit of derailment to come all round then 👍👍✌️✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧
Yeah, all 19,000 of them. Their pay rise is going to destroy the retirement of all 12.6 million pensioners. Oh, hang on …… 😂😂😂
@@matthewcook9404 Only labour voters support the attack on pensioners. I wonder why.
@@MELLYBOY58b
If the worker's had a national strike over the way pensioners are being treated by this lunatic they might even end up with a decent pension to live out their final years.
Stop sending so called aid to countries that are better off than us. This was morally correct years ago but surely now we need to look after our own people first. I am disgusted at these politicians who really dont have a mandate, there by default and people who couldnt be bothered to vote
Elders are patriotic, Heir Stürmer hates that.
£billion to Ukraine and can’t give our old people a little help - traitor.
400.
And I should remind people farage sent tyce over there
@@richardgallagher4880Richards forgot his meds today 😂
He has his orders as did Sunak.
Ukraine is worth every penny
Cutting the Winter Fuel Allowance from our dear Senior Citizens was the most unkind act towards our elders in Great Britain. Whilst billions and billions of pounds are being spent on young Muslim Asylum seekers who arrive in our shores - zero history zero passports and all of the other immigrants who have come legally or otherwise. Where is the compassion for our elderly folk, it’s not as if it’s three thousand pounds it’s just three hundred pounds, but a Godsend to many many. It has been a slap in the face to our dear Senior Citizens who have been through so much. Sadly, Santa won’t be coming down the chimney this Christmas for them.
It's a wonder he doesn't want pensioners to pay back the 300 quid back from last year
The government are supposed to look after the citizens of the country before all others. At the present this is sadly lacking.
Absolutely SPOT ON👍🏴🇬🇧
They can spend 8 billion on asylum seekers!
All those rebels who had the decency to make a proper decision abd be sacked for it, join the Reform Party and stand up for your morals
Why don’t they stop sending money abroad until this country gets back to some sort of normality
Stop it completely
It was the most heinous, cold-hearted decision. I know they all look dead-eyed but I was hoping they had a little humanity within them. Obviously not.
Why are British pensioners singled out? Easily answered. We are the least likely to take to the streets shouting and making a commotion.
There are pleanty workers, too many freeloading migrants is the issue. Cut their money .
Not cut their money … STOP IT they paid nowt in so should get nowt out and deported as breaking the law being illegal
Stop their money completely. We don’t owe illegals anything.
Come on labour mps get a vote of no confidence against Starmir and get him out.
Pensioners on £13000, I wish.
Can you claim any benefits. ?
If they were they would be paying income tax, but this will soon be coming to them as well. If the triple lock is applied for the lifetime of this Liebour government their pensions will be above the tax threshold so libel to pay tax on their state pensions!!!
@@judithmorganjudyteen I can claim some.
Don't know where he got that figure from! 🤔🤔🤔
Try £11300, because I get attendance allowance don’t qualify for pension credit I’m just above the threshold
In other words, non of the MP's in question had any problems with Starmer stamping on the civil liberties of British citizens.
With the country in such a state time to look again at foreign aid why are we giving 480 million to Pakistan, 370 million to Bangladesh, 240 million to Palestine Yeman 100 million and that's only part of our overseas aid, some of that money would be better spent at home.
It's not the fact that he's done this, it's the fact that he moaned to the conservatives about taking it away, and he said labour wouldn't do it. Liar, liar, liar
1.6 billion is the heating costs, these are facts, the rest of the missing money is illigals, and 117 million on mosques and islamists,says it all.
At a revealed average cost of 400,000 each, and the story Starmer is OK-ing the 70,000 immigrants backlog = £28 billion cost right there in his first months as leader of this
💩 show. All for the immigrants. They come first - yet again!
@gordonhutchinson9647 £117 million to "protect mosques" from the 40 million "far right" Starmer is "worried about".
More labour MPs need to resign and form a new party or join REFORM .
GIVE STARMER A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE !..
Sunak has grown a pair should have done it a long time ago. Vote Reform
Sunak's little games while he was chancellor are being exposed. This is just the beginning.
Ok Labour you can keep your winter fuel payment and pension credits, just pay the pensioners the minimum wage.
37hrs x £11.44 = £423 a week, that will do me fine👍🏻
“I agree” 100%
5yrs of these idiots , it’s gonna be grim .
Excellent interview so much truth in what is being said by this lady. Good for you👍👍👍
MP's a vote of no confidence in Parliament is needed
£1,000 over 5 years is £200 a year. The lowest winter fuel allowance.
We pensioners are just cannon fodder all the time you just can't win come here on a boat and labour will give you..Money..new.. Phone..place to live.. but if you're a bloody pensioner worked all your life payed your taxes and your stamp..Tuff
It's a ponzi scheme - why should the young pay for you to sit on yr ass for 30 years??
What have u done for them?
A bigger insult to pensioners is the extra 25p a week when turning 80.
Won’t even buy a pint of milk .. omg
Really? Wow I didn't know that. Roll on my 80th birthday. 🙄
Good one!!@@WilliamWilliams-o4u
Politicians don't become Criminals! Criminals become Politicians! FACT.😊
Calling all pensioners to attend parliament square on the day of the vote and make your voice heard loudly. Else every pensioner with a Labour MP, make your voices heard loudly and proudly in writing, outside their office or in front of the local council office. It is time pensioners come together as a force for good to stop pensioners dying this winter.
I would love to but I am ill and can't walk far but luckily and best wishes to all who could make it..
Where do they get this £13000 ,I don’t know any pensioners on that amount, I get £9900 a year ,
Possibly the figure includes the pension credit payment on top and maybe when theyre on PIP also ,I'm not a pensioner quite yet but know many of course and thst figure tallies aprox with the added I wrote 🥺🙏,gives GOVT no right to include pensioners on minimum state pension it's the cruelest of cruel 💔🥺
I get £14,500
Exactly. My gran gets the same. Its shocking how pensioners have been treated by this government. Of course they are frightened. Pensioners always try and manage without fuss. Now many are worried and distressed impacting on their mental health.
Its scandelous and a betrayal to a generation that worked hard.
@@PA28Ace few pensioner friends have the same but only as pension credit also and all on PIP as disabled 🙏
Not off the State Pension you don't,you are probably including private pensions,not everyone has those .@@PA28Ace
Labour hate pensioners and the working class ,,
I've been mugged for my winter fuel allowance.
100%
I actually thought starmer would be a quiet one , maybe we keep our heads down , boost economy but he’s a sly bastard . Not just continuing with immigration but everything he seems to be doing is so off. So much for him caring about “hard workers” he don’t give a toss
There's not even a shortage of train drivers!!! They don't even have to steer. Or reverse. And if they get it wrong, all the automation sorts their shit out for them!
It's harder being a bus driver. All the traffic ,
Steering through parked cars etc
Never heard such a load of bollocks in a long time, but pensioners are an easy target
Labour "rebellions" always fail by one vote.
Did not vote for him and his party. Us humans have short memories, things were in a pickle last time they had the opportunity to run the country. As for Starma he is a wolf in sheeps clothes.
“I agree” 100%
Starmer didn’t even answer why he gave to the train drivers.
Perhaps if the government stopped funding the immigrants, we’d have money to look after our own people
We'll find out next week then if there's been a revolt rather than speculating
Starmer in hot water??? No pun intended??? 😂😂😂 Pensioners will be lucky to afford hot water!! Starmer out!! Labour out!! If only!!
Yay, finally standing up to Sir Plebsrus
Stop the boats and stand down asap
Is this a way that they're trying to push pensioners out of their properties?
May be
to make way for asylum seekers, illegal immigrants.
WEF puppets one and all.
Seems to me all those people who have worked hard, paid into the system and saved what they can for old age, are now being penalized by Starmer. This man will have a revolution on his hands if he’s not careful.
Starmer and Labour should be ashamed of themselves, a case of "I'm alright, Jack". A public servant with a final salary pension can retire well before 65, those working in the private sector don't have final salary pensions and a large number depend on their state pension which they have to wait until they're 67 to get. If the pensioners of today knew they were going to be treated so despicably, I'm sure they would have protested most strongly against paying national insurance (forced taxation).
Two tier country, the majority pay through the nose for the benefit of the minority unjustifiably. Its just another example of the totalitarian state imposed by a minority party who had the support of only 20% of the electorate.
Train drivers are highly paid.
Why our pension money?😊
Many undecided … just sums them up they won’t have their money taking away and most likely have two home … disgraceful … unions should be calling a national strike to rid us of this lunatic who is power mad … Vote Reform 🇬🇧🏴🇮🇪🏴🏴🇮🇱
What about the pensioers living outside the UK why are they still getting the winter fuel payment
Those who call themselves ex pats will say they paid in when they were working but if you don't live in this country you shouldn't get it
Watching Stasi Starmer being bundled into a police car, along with Lound Mouth Lammy, for his own safety recently, didn't surprise me. Neither did the missiles thrown by the crowd bouncing off the back of the police car as it drove away at speed. The people are angry at the cruelty of this labour government. Picking on old people is despicable and it will be the beginning of the end for Starmer. I can't see this government and it's full on lunacy lasting.
Hope this happens more. We need something to cheer us
Hotel's will be nice and warm ??
I'm going to buy a black table cloth, cover my head and face with a niqab and just walk into one and see what happens.
And we are starting from the standpoint of the lowest pension's in Europe !
We will soon see very clearly what they are in it for ...THEM OR US !✌️✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧
All the members are now hated by their constituents
Starmer the harmer works for the wef. He can stop pensioners fuel allowance but he can still spunk money to Ukraine and Israel.