Money for migrants, money for M P s second homes, money for the unions , money for foreign aid , but none for pensioners, shame on Starmer and this spiteful government!!
@@MrZenby so 49.18 isn’t an allowance? They get free housing, when they are in the hostels food is provided for them, when they arrive they are given clothing, unfortunately sunshine you are deluded.
Why should rich pensioner get unneeded tax payer money! They're not axing it completely... pensions who ACTUALLY NEED IT will just have to apply! Read anything but the torygraph. This is not an immigrant issue is a class issue
@@michelet4577 Some very poor pensioners just above the rates of getting pension credit won't get it. How many rich pensioners do you think there are? These people who have worked in factories, bin men, bus drivers, road sweepers and so on. They were paid very poorly and didn't and couldn't save. They were the ones who built the country back up after the war. So you want these people to freeze to death? 4500 old people died from the cold last year. How many this year? Yes the money spent on Illegals could be given to our old people!
@@michelet4577 Nonsense. The vast majority of pensioners are not rich. Most are just above the limit for which they can claim benefits, and will thus not receive the fuel allowance. It is simply not a class issue.
@@martynblackburn9632 There is nothing we can do to fight climate change. So if our country becomes warmer...then not so many pensioners will die of the cold.
Disgusting persecution of retired people that have paid into the system all their working lives. People that have ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED to this country. They’ve paid their dues. DESPICABLE!!
Kier Starmer as well as being a war criminal should now be charged with attempted murder of pensioners. IT'S THE LAW, knowing that your actions will intentionally or not but the result will cause death.
Your not paying for anything, as the fuel allowance was funded by the taxpayers. Are you as concerned about the single parents, living in dismal conditions, who might also die this winter? Of course, as no one knows what the weather is going to be like this winter, it's a mute point anyway.
Disgusting. This country has died. How come someone floating up here from God knows where gets free accommodation, free food, free money, free gas electric, free medical care, free dentist, free travel, free moblie phones, free bikes and our mothers/fathers grandparents get a kick in the stomach? This government needs to be brought down and if this doesn't make everyone vote reform next time, well I give up!
Jeez, did this just happen in the last few weeks then?!?! There's me thinking it went back fourteen years or more, but I guess you know what your talking about.
@@johnpaget166 I seem to remember the Tories introducing it. Fuel was affordable the last time Labour was in… but I will stand corrected if I am wrong.
@@Ken-yy9us 'Jeez, did this just happen in the last few weeks then?!?! There's me thinking it went back fourteen years or more, but I guess you know what your talking about.' Oddly, I don't recall the Tories abolishing winter fuel payments? Can you tell me when it happened, comrade?
11 billion in foreign aid , 9 billion on net zero , 9 billion on pay rises for docs and train drivers , no 1.6 billion for pensioners heat , ffs you could not make it up
Please absolutely name and shame the individuals concerned. Every single voter in every constituency should know who voted for this disgusting attack on pensioners.
The list should be front page news. All of them who got rid of the allowance should be named & shamed & their constituents need to make it clear what monsters they are.
Labour MP's be reminded, you are not accountable to Keir Starmer, you are accountable to your Constituents, and will be held accountable by them, accordingly.
I'm so angry. My pensioner mum was paranoid enough before this that she wouldn't be able to pay for heating bill with the winter fuel payment that she wouldn't put her heating on throughout the house last winter and just used her gas fire in one room. She ended up with pneumonia. Can you imagine what she and others are going to be like this coming winter. The MPs should be named and shamed. Disgraceful!!!! 😠
Her dual fuel standing charge is more than the winter fuel payment, so put her heating on low and avoid her house becoming damp which will cost far more to put right.
@@AndrewCoombes-nv2qoyou're right, it feels like Starmer is culling our loved ones. Now I hear he wants to stop the single occupancy discount for council tax which will put another burden on our pensioner loved ones who are widows and widower. The whole lot of this government are evil!
I don't have a problem with MP's voting to end the pensioners winter fuel allowance - as long as they end their own £4,700 a year fuel allowance. I won't hold my breath. It's a cruel world.
Now THAT'S a sensible point of view and one I agree with. If I don't see this government stopping the perks you mention, along with the likes of peers getting £320 for expenses every day, plus discounted meals and bars, that's when I'll start writing to my MP.
@@Michael-fj4ol Yet you think that a creature like the Dear Leader, who actually has his DPP gold-plated pension protected by a specific Act of Parliament, cares a jot for the little people? He is a politician, not a decent human being.
They want to cut the pensioners winter allowance yet MPs are able to claim taxpayer money for all their utility bills including council tax on their second homes in London. Hypocrites .
Unacceptable!!! No money for keeping pensioners warm in this country 🇬🇧 this winter 🥶 But there’s BILLIONS of ££££££££££’s to house illegal immigrants in warm hotels!!! 😡😡😡😡 Shame on the Labour government! 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
@user-jc4lb5mm7x no one fall for this divisive left vs right rhetoric. It was BLAIR who opened the doors from tens to hundreds of thousands the tories. The tories just expanded and continued it. From a product of healthy immigration in the 40s and 50s who family integrated and even discussed foreign affairs with Churchill records on ancestry. These dignh6 divers are ruinin cohesion for tanned brown and black people like me who's families are fully British and integrated back in healthy policy days
They’ll soon be building over our green(belt) and pleasant land to house the bastards. Obviously they’re not content with ruining every town and city,they’re chasing us down across the countryside 😢
"Hey Kier, an 87 year old lady, who paid her taxes for decades is going to die if you don't give her £300." "F**k her." "Hey Kier, a bloke shouted at a dog." "What??!! I want him in prison NOW!!! F*"*K THE COST!!!"
One MP said she was abstaining because she didn't want the whip removing. Think she is the York north representative and is appalled at her parties stance against old people. Liebour are reprehensible.
@sierra60 losing the whip is nothing she will still be an mp and can sit as an independant I'm sure her constituents would think a lot better of her than being a starmer stooge
@@pennyhobbs7267they have their house. In their constituency and some have a house in london.they should have to choose one. They could live in digs in London like other people who work away. From home.
As a retired nurse I can recall the time before the winter fuel allowance. During the eighties and nineties when the causality was filled with elderly frail vulnerable patients lying in space blankets with hypothermia on the verge of death. This is not a dramatic statement it’s fact. I can recall the impact it had on me as a young nurse at the time. I believe we will see this again because of fuel poverty ! Keir starmer will not witness this in his warm home over winter. It’s completely shameful !! I this labour government has absolutely no empathy or common sense.
@@jennifervictore5471But do those above that need it? That's what this government is trying to stop, people like Heseltine, Curry and Major. There has to be a cutoff as you have suggested and, rightly or wrongly, he has decided his level. It's good to read that someone has thought about it, rather than this blank cheque approach and I have to say I agree with your suggestion.
Let me solve the problems now for 2 tier kier...1) send boats straight back to france. 2) reinstate the winter fuel allowance. 3) Dont release real criminals. 4) Dont class anyone who protests as far right. 5) stop going against the peoples vote to cosy up to the EU. 6) Stop with the 2 tier policing. 7) Stop blaming the previous government.
Those poor pensioners sitting on their land and nest eggs, while young people live with their parents and fight monthly with inflation to pay basic bills that 30 years ago barely registered. Oh, woe is them
@@tobylerone4285I'm pensioners I can assure you I'm not on a nest egg.i wish I was.because I have paid my way all my life .looked after my own kids.went without clothes shoes In winter so long as my kids ok.we had to learn struggles of life .your probably well off good luck to you.not all pensioners are well off .your poir grandparents fought fir you.
Burst pipes due to no heating; mould and damp. Problems also caused by cuts in fuel allowance. Just adds to everyone’s ever growing budgets. Looks like the NHS will be busy this winter
Why didn’t the government stop the winter fuel payment to the extremely wealthy pensioners who have say over £60,000 income, millionaires etc, £100 is nothing to them, but a little old lady who is just over the threshold £100 it’s a lifeline, shame on you Starmer and Labour
Today I watched a programme on TV about Dunkirk and Churchill's speech about our stand against Hitler it made me feel proud to be an English citizen. I could not have ever imagined that we would have our very own Hitler living in Number 10 only 80 years later. Why did so many of our people bother to give 5 years of their lives fighting fascism???
Labour took the winter fuel allowance away from vunverable pensions to pay for the train drivers pay increase. These train driver's who already earn over 60k per annum. The Labour party are disgusting, I am proud that I have never voted labour and never will.
They won't care they get every allowance going ...they won't care their pockets are full ...second homes paid for....fuel paid for ....heating they don't care...
It's not a fuel bonus it a one off winter payment because pensioner's live on a pittance one of the lowest pensions in Europe however we can still give £12 billion to 3rd world country's for green energy,
It’s bloody disgusting. There is enough money to give to foreign countries to help with their climate issues and to waste billions on net zero nonsense and spend billions on immigrants coming to this country illegally yet they are going to take money from pensioners when the state pension in the UK is one of the worst in Europe and well below what the government itself considers to be the minimum amount needed to live on. I am beyond appalled. I’m sure they will still keep getting fuel allowances for their second homes. It’s shocking. What a state this country is in now under this Labour regime. If I could afford to I would emigrate. God help us if we have to put up with this shit for the next 5 years. Maybe if they are lucky they will manage to kill off all of us pensioners and that will save them some money. They are Absolute bastards.
Haven't you heard. Europe gives £ billions to third world in exchange for an abundance of Illegal immigrants Then they intend placing them in pensioners homes and the body heat they generate will keep pensioners warm. But not for free. That will be the basis of the new tax and of course vat
Let's face it when they made the woman born in the fifties suddenly wait another 6 yrs over 600,000 died before they got to pension age, they don't care
Im 73 and a pensioner . Many older people are already feeling the cold . Come October heating should be on for older people , With age your body deteriorates , skin gets thinner ,Blood gets thinner Iam diabetic I feel cold already but my heating isnt on . What they are doing is premeditated and deaths are inevitable
The party "for the people" punishing the people who built this country.... Disgusting. We the people take being "absent" for this as a yes. these MP's can't hide from this.
Someone needs to hold to account all politicians still taking £3500 yearly energy grant! Absolutely sickening that no one has mentioned this, most of them are millionaires ffs and certainly shouldn’t be taking money from the apparently “empty” pot, so bloody greedy the lot of them take take take it’s all they know 😡
This lot in government would have a better argument for cutting the winter fuel allowance if they weren't spending 8 billion pounds of our tax money per year housing people who have entered our country illegally, with the help of trafficking gangs.
The more elderly people that could have their lives put at risk the less pension they have to pay out as well. I thought that neglect of an elderly person is deemed to be abuse, Wicked wicked MPs, but they won't have to choose between food and heat. If a pensioners gets more money. They'll tax it and they'll end up with less money. EVIL
@@martynblackburn9632A state pension is not a benefit...you work and pay NI throughout your working life which goes towards the pension. Young unemployed people on benefits have paid bugger all into the system. I never got child benefit or tax credits not being a parent so I've already paid into the system for others for 40+years. Maybe when or if you get to retire from work you'll have a diffeent attitude to older people.
@@MrTitaniumBGBut it most certainly is!! Haven't you read the replies concerning Starmer? Nothing about the previous 14 years, just about Starmer trying to get control of a government handout of taxpayers money that is being given out willy nilly. Of course there are pensioners who need it and he has tried to accommodate those people. But how long do you think we can keep on giving taxpayers money away to those who DON'T need it.
@@Ken-yy9us in this very subject Starmer is the one to make the decision on removing the payments from pensioners? There is no denying the last 14 years have been poor especially the last 4 years. How can you morally take the payments off pensioners but happily send £11.6Bn abroad for ridiculous net zero projects.
Get Labour out Tomorrow morning, we don't want the Prisons back on the streets, do Labour ever "Think" what Labour are doing, Labour should be Taxing the Big Companies
You say this but the recent election shows votes have little relevance to the number of MPs winning seats which has produced the current chaotic shambolic state this nation is in.
If you can tell me what their policies are on immigration, the NHS, winter fuel allowance or any other policies they might have, I'll take a look. But seeing how many of their intended candidates were found to be "not suitable" I'm a little hesitant anyway.
Of course they will because they are frightened of starmer.they won't give us a thought.they won't go against the immigrants.they must look after them first.its a bloody joke and do you think the immigrants will think of us?no chance .
Very true, Top of the list who matter comes the illegal immigrants then train drivers and doctors, guess whose at the bottom of the list Old Aged British Pensioners.
There are thousands of people who have said that they will name the MPs that vote to freeze a pensioner and make sure they are named over all platforms.
Look the mother in-law is 84 and it's cold now in the north east went to her house yesterday and guess what she's wrapped in a fleece blanket and winter hasn't started yet
Money for migrants, money for M P s second homes, money for the unions , money for foreign aid , but none for pensioners, shame on Starmer and this spiteful government!!
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Will the mps still get their 3.4k winter allowance for power i bet they will.
And what about the hundreds of billions spaffed by the Tories? With nothing to show except a broken country.
Why should an old lady die, yet an immigrant gets free heating, food, housing and a weekly financial allowance? Starmer must be replaced.
@@MrZenby so 49.18 isn’t an allowance? They get free housing, when they are in the hostels food is provided for them, when they arrive they are given clothing, unfortunately sunshine you are deluded.
Why should rich pensioner get unneeded tax payer money! They're not axing it completely... pensions who ACTUALLY NEED IT will just have to apply! Read anything but the torygraph. This is not an immigrant issue is a class issue
He can't read the room.
@@michelet4577 Some very poor pensioners just above the rates of getting pension credit won't get it. How many rich pensioners do you think there are? These people who have worked in factories, bin men, bus drivers, road sweepers and so on. They were paid very poorly and didn't and couldn't save. They were the ones who built the country back up after the war. So you want these people to freeze to death? 4500 old people died from the cold last year. How many this year? Yes the money spent on Illegals could be given to our old people!
@@michelet4577 Nonsense. The vast majority of pensioners are not rich. Most are just above the limit for which they can claim benefits, and will thus not receive the fuel allowance. It is simply not a class issue.
How Starmer can justify nearly £10bn in “climate aid” but can’t help keep our elderly, vulnerable people in his own country warm is disgusting.
Don’t forget billions for illegal immigrants and billions for Ukraine also
Climate change is a more urgent issue than some wealthy boomers losing a bit of money.
Are you referring to the 2020 paper?
If so, wasn't that a Conservative plan?
@@Shadrach666 Climate change. Human contributed climate change.
@@martynblackburn9632 There is nothing we can do to fight climate change. So if our country becomes warmer...then not so many pensioners will die of the cold.
Disgusting persecution of retired people that have paid into the system all their working lives.
People that have ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED to this country. They’ve paid their dues.
DESPICABLE!!
Kier Starmer as well as being a war criminal should now be charged with attempted murder of pensioners. IT'S THE LAW, knowing that your actions will intentionally or not but the result will cause death.
Unlike Tories and Reform?
Millions of these pensioners worked in jobs & industries that through their unions supported labour finance .
Those that have tossed it off seem to get free glasses dental car, council tax, rent fuel, WHY WORK. THERE IS NO POVERTY THIS IS NOT VICTORIAN BRITAIN
All MPs who vote for the cold weather allowance cut must be named and shamed in their local newspapers. They must never be voted for again.
I asked one mp in Leeds South. I never got a reply,so I take it as he did vote to get rid of the winter fuel allowance.
Have money for migrants, but no money for British pensioners !
Pensioners now paying for young migrants in warm hotels , exactly what labour thinks of the British pensioners
Labour are Traitors to their own country and people.
Labour MPs are pissing on old people now.
Your not paying for anything, as the fuel allowance was funded by the taxpayers.
Are you as concerned about the single parents, living in dismal conditions, who might also die this winter?
Of course, as no one knows what the weather is going to be like this winter, it's a mute point anyway.
Betrayal of the people
@@DRMEEKSIt's disgraceful
NEVER VOTE FOR ANY LABOUR MP... EVER, NOW WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LIKE....😊😊😊😊😊
Anyone who pays labour membership should cancel it, I never voted for those numpties
I never have! I never will! I am not stupid! Not fooled!
I knew what Labour were like and I warned people
@@samhodgins9804 me too, that's why I did not vote for them they are not supportive of the working classes
This cruel act saves 1billion. 11billion is spent on foreign aid.We can do the maths.
Let these countries that get aid,look after themselves
Give them 10 billion then and the pensioner's 1 billion,why can't they do that untill they find some others way.
THE MAN WHO SET A SKIP ON FIRE OUTSIDE THE IMMIGRANTS HOTEL GETS
(9. years )
2TK DOUBLE STANDARDS..
Starmer won’t be on anyones doorstep. He’ll be hiding in his office. He won’t face any pensioners.
He will be off to Davos to sit on Schwab's knee.
I DON'T THINK HE IS SAFE TO WALK THE STREETS LIKE HE DID BEFORE THE ELECTION
HELL BE OFF IN US GIVNG TALKS INSTEAD OF IN CLAPHAM GOBBLESS
I'm a pensioner, and wish he'd turn up at my door.
@@leonardireland7362 Oh he will have his new recruits boat guys on stand by.
They should turn the HEATING OFF in parliament , see if they like it
And stop the cheap meals and drinks.
Should turn off the heating in both houses.
sasfflegionarmy WRONG! turn off all the heating AND open all the windows and doors!!!!
Always looks comfortable in that building.
100%
Disgusting. This country has died. How come someone floating up here from God knows where gets free accommodation, free food, free money, free gas electric, free medical care, free dentist, free travel, free moblie phones, free bikes and our mothers/fathers grandparents get a kick in the stomach? This government needs to be brought down and if this doesn't make everyone vote reform next time, well I give up!
Jeez, did this just happen in the last few weeks then?!?!
There's me thinking it went back fourteen years or more, but I guess you know what your talking about.
@@johnpaget166
I seem to remember the Tories introducing it. Fuel was affordable the last time Labour was in… but I will stand corrected if I am wrong.
@@Ken-yy9us 'Jeez, did this just happen in the last few weeks then?!?!
There's me thinking it went back fourteen years or more, but I guess you know what your talking about.' Oddly, I don't recall the Tories abolishing winter fuel payments? Can you tell me when it happened, comrade?
@@Ken-yy9us; Over twenty years actually, it started with your mate Blair.
And if you question it youre racist ffs anyone with a working brain cell would ask why is this fair
11 billion in foreign aid , 9 billion on net zero , 9 billion on pay rises for docs and train drivers , no 1.6 billion for pensioners heat , ffs you could not make it up
Please absolutely name and shame the individuals concerned. Every single voter in every constituency should know who voted for this disgusting attack on pensioners.
The list should be front page news. All of them who got rid of the allowance should be named & shamed & their constituents need to make it clear what monsters they are.
Labour MP's be reminded, you are not accountable to Keir Starmer, you are accountable to your Constituents, and will be held accountable by them, accordingly.
Fortunately they all have good close personal security funded by the voters these days.
You are totally incorrect! They are only accountable to WEF.
Haven't you worked that out yet?
@@brianlopez8855isn't it ironic that they require protection from the very section of the UK population that they are protecting
Make the most of it you wont be MPs for long
Silent vigil outside their offices.
That's great. Please do name the mps that vote against starmer. Their constituents deserve to know who has their interest at heart.
They don't have anybodies interest at heart, all there are interested in is the trough.
Yes then the ones against won't be charred with same brush
I wrote to my local mp they don't even answer you
@@user-Katie019 True
@@user-Katie019 Well That Tells You Everything You Wanted To Know About The Labour Party 🥳 Of Hypocrites And Liars.
They have 8,000,000 pounds A DAY for criminal invaders but wail they do not have money for pensioners!!!!
Double your figure !! £16m a day.
£48 billion a year in real costs for i.6 million of them.
Nonsense, prove the figures or is that from the latest scribblings from the Reform comic?
I'm so angry. My pensioner mum was paranoid enough before this that she wouldn't be able to pay for heating bill with the winter fuel payment that she wouldn't put her heating on throughout the house last winter and just used her gas fire in one room. She ended up with pneumonia. Can you imagine what she and others are going to be like this coming winter. The MPs should be named and shamed. Disgraceful!!!! 😠
Her dual fuel standing charge is more than the winter fuel payment, so put her heating on low and avoid her house becoming damp which will cost far more to put right.
@@nataliestafford6231 this is what they want to save money by the old people dieing
They do not care. They have their own £3,400 fuel allowance. Disgraceful! WE WONT FORGET
@@brigittereddin1096 totally agree with you on that one
@@AndrewCoombes-nv2qoyou're right, it feels like Starmer is culling our loved ones. Now I hear he wants to stop the single occupancy discount for council tax which will put another burden on our pensioner loved ones who are widows and widower.
The whole lot of this government are evil!
I don't have a problem with MP's voting to end the pensioners winter fuel allowance - as long as they end their own £4,700 a year fuel allowance. I won't hold my breath.
It's a cruel world.
@@ljdasilva3139 that is for each house that they own
The system has been totally corrupted, we have a uni party just like China, Russia
Now THAT'S a sensible point of view and one I agree with.
If I don't see this government stopping the perks you mention, along with the likes of peers getting £320 for expenses every day, plus discounted meals and bars, that's when I'll start writing to my MP.
So they get £4700 cut from their allowances, won't they just use their millions (or billions) to pay for energy bill?
Well that wint happen will it😅
Where are the human rights of our elderly this is as evil as it gets from Labour , a vote of no confidence in this uncaring government.
Starmer will have blood on his hands when pensioners die of being too cold shame on labour
You think that would worry him? How charmingly naive of you.
It will be covered up as usual
@dovetonsturdee7033 I am not naive. I am absolutely not
@@Michael-fj4ol and even more blood when he lets all these violent criminals out on us, the innocent public
@@Michael-fj4ol Yet you think that a creature like the Dear Leader, who actually has his DPP gold-plated pension protected by a specific Act of Parliament, cares a jot for the little people? He is a politician, not a decent human being.
They want to cut the pensioners winter allowance yet MPs are able to claim taxpayer money for all their utility bills including council tax on their second homes in London.
Hypocrites .
Perks of the job, I had lots in banking.
Labour will NEVER be forgiven for this❗️
Dont worry you Labour MPS. We WON'T forget your TREACHERY.
Unacceptable!!! No money for keeping pensioners warm in this country 🇬🇧 this winter 🥶 But there’s BILLIONS of ££££££££££’s to house illegal immigrants in warm hotels!!! 😡😡😡😡
Shame on the Labour government! 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Not only house, but heat, feed, clothe and give them money too!
What are you complaining about, this is down to the Tories.
@user-jc4lb5mm7x no one fall for this divisive left vs right rhetoric. It was BLAIR who opened the doors from tens to hundreds of thousands the tories. The tories just expanded and continued it. From a product of healthy immigration in the 40s and 50s who family integrated and even discussed foreign affairs with Churchill records on ancestry. These dignh6 divers are ruinin cohesion for tanned brown and black people like me who's families are fully British and integrated back in healthy policy days
They’ll soon be building over our green(belt) and pleasant land to house the bastards. Obviously they’re not content with ruining every town and city,they’re chasing us down across the countryside 😢
And 11.6 billion given away to Africa.
Absolutely shameful
Yes!!!!!!! Name them and shame them all who vote to axe it.
agree and vote them out at the earliest opportunity
put the names on the front page of all national newspapers
@@notforturning7880 I'd buy a copy !
They are mostly cowards, they will abstain
@@kenwilkins8237 Add the abstained to the published list also.
What about the 10,000 foreign criminals…
"Hey Kier, an 87 year old lady, who paid her taxes for decades is going to die if you don't give her £300."
"F**k her."
"Hey Kier, a bloke shouted at a dog."
"What??!! I want him in prison NOW!!! F*"*K THE COST!!!"
Also name and shame the ones who abstain or don't even bother to turn up cowards
there the worst cowards to the people
Woke.
One MP said she was abstaining because she didn't want the whip removing. Think she is the York north representative and is appalled at her parties stance against old people. Liebour are reprehensible.
@sierra60 losing the whip is nothing she will still be an mp and can sit as an independant I'm sure her constituents would think a lot better of her than being a starmer stooge
@Kirk720 politicians complain when the people don't vote but it's OK for them
Cut MPs free utility bills first!
Pay them the minimum wage.....
Why do we pay for their utility bills ?????
You pay everything for a second home. They also get cheap meals and drinks. @@pennyhobbs7267
@@pennyhobbs7267they have their house. In their constituency and some have a house in london.they should have to choose one. They could live in digs in London like other people who work away. From home.
@@pennyhobbs7267 They claim utility bills back on their expenses, amongst claiming many other things.
As a retired nurse I can recall the time before the winter fuel allowance. During the eighties and nineties when the causality was filled with elderly frail vulnerable patients lying in space blankets with hypothermia on the verge of death. This is not a dramatic statement it’s fact. I can recall the impact it had on me as a young nurse at the time. I believe we will see this again because of fuel poverty !
Keir starmer will not witness this in his warm home over winter. It’s completely shameful !! I this labour government has absolutely no empathy or common sense.
Any BRITISH household under £15K needs this winter allowance.
@@jennifervictore5471 I agree
@@jennifervictore5471But do those above that need it? That's what this government is trying to stop, people like Heseltine, Curry and Major.
There has to be a cutoff as you have suggested and, rightly or wrongly, he has decided his level.
It's good to read that someone has thought about it, rather than this blank cheque approach and I have to say I agree with your suggestion.
@@jennifervictore5471💯 agree.
That sounds horrific. I do hope starmer sees the error of his ways , but he’s got no empathy
Keep supporting Starmer and lose your seats, you are elected to support your constituents, FULL STOP.
Let me solve the problems now for 2 tier kier...1) send boats straight back to france.
2) reinstate the winter fuel allowance.
3) Dont release real criminals.
4) Dont class anyone who protests as far right.
5) stop going against the peoples vote to cosy up to the EU.
6) Stop with the 2 tier policing.
7) Stop blaming the previous government.
Stop giving foreign aid until we help our own first
I always knew Labour were hopeless. They are also mad , bad and dangerous. Especially it would appear to pensioners.
Two months in and they're out of control
They are far worse than I ever imagined they would and could be.
Those poor pensioners sitting on their land and nest eggs, while young people live with their parents and fight monthly with inflation to pay basic bills that 30 years ago barely registered. Oh, woe is them
@@tobylerone4285 a55hole!
@@tobylerone4285I'm pensioners I can assure you I'm not on a nest egg.i wish I was.because I have paid my way all my life .looked after my own kids.went without clothes shoes In winter so long as my kids ok.we had to learn struggles of life .your probably well off good luck to you.not all pensioners are well off .your poir grandparents fought fir you.
pensioners will never vote ever again for labour !!!!!
Labour think we don't
Got 5 years of this lot, Won’t matter then half of us will be dead!! 😡
There’s always going to be some who will say “I’ve always voted for labour. I am labour. I’ll always will vote labour. Free Palestine”
😂😂😂 o yes they will
Most don't , that's why he doesn't care about them , next will be Children as they don't vote
5000 hotels rooms rented by taxpayer in case illegal migrants arrive.
Meanwhile, old people have their fuel allowance cut. Think how wrong this is.
Gfedd
Agreed and who did this? Was it the Tories by any chance?
Totally 💯 wrong. What is this government thinking??
@Ken-yy9us regardless, this isn't about which party did what you clown. This is wrong.
@@Ken-yy9us Was it the cons who have taken the WFP from pensioners? Ken sorry mate but...
Burst pipes due to no heating; mould and damp. Problems also caused by cuts in fuel allowance. Just adds to everyone’s ever growing budgets. Looks like the NHS will be busy this winter
Why didn’t the government stop the winter fuel payment to the extremely wealthy pensioners who have say over £60,000 income, millionaires etc, £100 is nothing to them, but a little old lady who is just over the threshold £100 it’s a lifeline, shame on you Starmer and Labour
I've been mugged for my winter fuel allowance, can I take the government to the ECHR?
Brits residing in the EU WILL GET IT. This is an absolute disgrace!!
No one will vote labour again
We can only hope
Unfortunately, commies and antifa types still will because they are right there with the politicians who want the human race to suffer.
Sadly many will, blind dogma will see to that !
@@gigabyte2573 No...I have always been a dyed in the wool Labourite...but NO MORE!!!
Who voted for them ???
Starmer will probably throw them in prison for not getting his own way!
You know how Starmer is though, he'll let them out again a day later.
Especially as there will be prison places as from tomorrow. The pensioners may be better off in prison.
@@barbaradavies4061 very true a bed 3 meals a day and heating!
Only if they post on Facebook
😂😂😂@@IanSmith465
Hopefully Labour will NEVER recover from these decisions!
If this had been in the Labour Party manifesto prior to the election then we would now have a reform government
Labour MP's will have to pin their colours to the mast on this issue. And this will not be forgotten by their constituents.
I do hope their Friday surgeries have some constituents voicing their disgust and they have an influx of emails to reply to.
@@AntonyBall-hm4jo EVERY PENSIONER GO TO THEIR SURGERIES FOR A WARM AND HAVE A SIT-IN OR SHOULD I SAY A WARM-IN!
Maybe all plumbers should charge all Labour MP's an extra £1000 per appointment and give the money to pensioners that they know that are struggling.
I'm down for that as a plumber
What a good idea I have 2 plumbers that are close relatives 😊
Excellent idea. Tradespeople should all do this.
@@margaretrichards3533 as soon as a certian person rings me up to quote a job it goes about 4x more expensive 😂 always had done and always will.
If so called politicians have to pay for tradesmen they claim the cost back to taxpayers so we all end up paying for all their bills.
Pensioners finding out that other lives matter but not theirs
Today I watched a programme on TV about Dunkirk and Churchill's speech about our stand against Hitler it made me feel proud to be an English citizen. I could not have ever imagined that we would have our very own Hitler living in Number 10 only 80 years later. Why did so many of our people bother to give 5 years of their lives fighting fascism???
Labour took the winter fuel allowance away from vunverable pensions to pay for the train drivers pay increase. These train driver's who already earn over 60k per annum. The Labour party are disgusting, I am proud that I have never voted labour and never will.
How proud must labour be ? How proud their family and friends must be?
Yes and how proud people must be who voted labour
Absolutely they should be named but they have no Shame whatsoever.
They won't care they get every allowance going ...they won't care their pockets are full ...second homes paid for....fuel paid for ....heating they don't care...
Think of being thick-skinned.
@@markarca6360 Sociopaths.
It's actually political manslaughter ,if any pensioner passes away due to this mad policy .
If I’d voted lab I’d hold my head in shame for what they are doing to our pensioners. Morals are mor important than votes.
No wonder starmer didnt tell people his plans before the election,glad i didnt vote for labour
It's not a fuel bonus it a one off winter payment because pensioner's live on a pittance one of the lowest pensions in Europe however we can still give £12 billion to 3rd world country's for green energy,
We're even giving to China for this
It’s bloody disgusting. There is enough money to give to foreign countries to help with their climate issues and to waste billions on net zero nonsense and spend billions on immigrants coming to this country illegally yet they are going to take money from pensioners when the state pension in the UK is one of the worst in Europe and well below what the government itself considers to be the minimum amount needed to live on. I am beyond appalled. I’m sure they will still keep getting fuel allowances for their second homes. It’s shocking. What a state this country is in now under this Labour regime. If I could afford to I would emigrate. God help us if we have to put up with this shit for the next 5 years. Maybe if they are lucky they will manage to kill off all of us pensioners and that will save them some money. They are Absolute bastards.
Haven't you heard. Europe gives £ billions to third world in exchange for an abundance of Illegal immigrants
Then they intend placing them in pensioners homes and the body heat they generate will keep pensioners warm. But not for free. That will be the basis of the new tax and of course vat
rogerfleet you forgot billions on the ukraine situation and billions on immigration!!!
And look how much it costs to police pro-Palastine marches
I would rather be named and shamed than have old peoples deaths on my hands.
Labour won't care who died pensions back in coffers....
Let's face it when they made the woman born in the fifties suddenly wait another 6 yrs over 600,000 died before they got to pension age, they don't care
He needs to resign, now, disgraceful government,
Im 73 and a pensioner . Many older people are already feeling the cold . Come October heating should be on for older people , With age your body deteriorates , skin gets thinner ,Blood gets thinner Iam diabetic I feel cold already but my heating isnt on . What they are doing is premeditated and deaths are inevitable
The party "for the people" punishing the people who built this country.... Disgusting. We the people take being "absent" for this as a yes. these MP's can't hide from this.
Someone needs to hold to account all politicians still taking £3500 yearly energy grant! Absolutely sickening that no one has mentioned this, most of them are millionaires ffs and certainly shouldn’t be taking money from the apparently “empty” pot, so bloody greedy the lot of them take take take it’s all they know 😡
Yes name every one of them,let the voters see who betrayed them
I think we should be able to see ALL voting results on each and every vote.
The way MP's vote is a matter of public record, voters can find out themselves if they can be bothered.
This lot in government would have a better argument for cutting the winter fuel allowance if they weren't spending 8 billion pounds of our tax money per year housing people who have entered our country illegally, with the help of trafficking gangs.
Vote Reform to save this country.
This is the most hateful, spiteful goverment that this country has had to ensure. Just how does that whimp of a man sleep at night.
He is a psychopath. He does not dream: He told us he didn't.
I havnt read one comment that’s for starmer not one. He’s hated by everyone I think
@@bieberfan6300No one becomes PM to be popular. He's adopting the classic strategy of doing all the nasty things first.
Let's scrap labour. Where are the Irish he labelled them racist.
NAME AND SHAME ALL LIEBOUR M.P.s THAT VOTED TO SCRAP THE FUEL ALLOWANCE!!!
The way MPs vote has always been a matter of public record, most people can't be bothered to look for themselves.
Indeed! Starmer won't be taking the knee to PLM or Pensioners' Lives Matter.
Sign the petition.
Starmer should ashamed of what he is doing.
My MP is Labour and I've contacted him but had no reply. I'd have more respect for him if he voted against the bill but somehow doubt it.
The more elderly people that could have their lives put at risk the less pension they have to pay out as well.
I thought that neglect of an elderly person is deemed to be abuse,
Wicked wicked MPs, but they won't have to choose between food and heat.
If a pensioners gets more money. They'll tax it and they'll end up with less money.
EVIL
We need to know who is voting yes for this cruel policy......and the ones that abstain....
Then look it up yourself, the way MP's vote is a matter of public record. How hard can it be ?
Labour voters.....YOU WERE WARNED ENOUGH TIMES!
Labour voters were conned
Get their names on the television.
It’s about right and wrong, backing Starmer to treat pensioners this way is deplorable.
It's the right thing to do. Why should wealthy boomers who can afford 3 holidays a year get more benefits?
@@martynblackburn9632 Where are these wealthy boomers?? Hope you get old, cold and broke.
@@martynblackburn9632A state pension is not a benefit...you work and pay NI throughout your working life which goes towards the pension. Young unemployed people on benefits have paid bugger all into the system. I never got child benefit or tax credits not being a parent so I've already paid into the system for others for 40+years. Maybe when or if you get to retire from work you'll have a diffeent attitude to older people.
@@sierra60 i don't reply to idiots like the one you replied to. Slow in the 🧠
Well said
What do you expect when we have MPs earning £92,000 a year having their home energy bills paid for by the tax payer.
And all this was agreed when the tories were in power.
@@Ken-yy9us this isn’t about tory/labour. All MPs! Perhaps if they were paying their own bills they might be abled to make better decision’s.
@@MrTitaniumBGBut it most certainly is!! Haven't you read the replies concerning Starmer?
Nothing about the previous 14 years, just about Starmer trying to get control of a government handout of taxpayers money that is being given out willy nilly.
Of course there are pensioners who need it and he has tried to accommodate those people.
But how long do you think we can keep on giving taxpayers money away to those who DON'T need it.
100% CORRECT
@@Ken-yy9us in this very subject Starmer is the one to make the decision on removing the payments from pensioners? There is no denying the last 14 years have been poor especially the last 4 years. How can you morally take the payments off pensioners but happily send £11.6Bn abroad for ridiculous net zero projects.
Mps should vote for their constitutions not the party the people
Constituents.
A lot of the new bunch are idealistic dweebs who drank the Starmer kool-aid. Seat-warmers.
We are the very last to matter to them.
@@El.Cid17 I stand corrected 😂
He wants to make room for those who should'nt be here! 🤬
Get Labour out Tomorrow morning, we don't want the Prisons back on the streets, do Labour ever "Think" what Labour are doing, Labour should be Taxing the Big Companies
And those who abstain. Name and shame the lot.
and remember, pensioners have votes too, could be a lot of MPs losing their seats over this
You say this but the recent election shows votes have little relevance to the number of MPs winning seats which has produced the current chaotic shambolic state this nation is in.
pensioners are conservative voters generally.... this is the issue!
They have children too who will remember this long after their parents have passed.
VOTE REFORM AT ALL THE LOCAL ELECTIONS IN MAY WITH A BLACK PEN 🖊...SHOW THIS LIE...BOUR GOVERNMENT THE DOOR...NIGEL FARAGE FOR PM 😃
Yes, this is really important for everyone to realise that we need to get Labour out at the local elections next May.
Yes I will black pen and reform all the way like last year
No
If you can tell me what their policies are on immigration, the NHS, winter fuel allowance or any other policies they might have, I'll take a look. But seeing how many of their intended candidates were found to be "not suitable" I'm a little hesitant anyway.
@@mackaybrown4847 don't rhen
anyone who dies because they cant afford to heat there home then the government should be taken to court for murder
Labour voters must be proud.
I bet all the labour MPs who disagree with taking away the fuel benefit will abstain.
Sustaining is as bad as voting against
Yeah that's the extent of the MPs "SUPPORT" for older British Citizens.
Of course they will because they are frightened of starmer.they won't give us a thought.they won't go against the immigrants.they must look after them first.its a bloody joke and do you think the immigrants will think of us?no chance
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The fact they need a vote on this speaks volumes on how un ethical the policy is. Labour is literaly cancer for the UK.
They need to vote to try and spread the blame, so it's reduced to all of labour, which actually proves they know its so wrong..
You might name them but you will never shame them.
These are career politicians and looking after number one comes first.
Well said
Spot on👍🏻
So are us disabled PENSIONERS on a fixed income its disgusting ❤x
Hate this government and their choices 😡
Yes and my mum is one of them she gets 13600 a year and shes been taxed and now no winter fuel payment
If your mum has a few medical conditions she may be eligible to claim Attendance Allowance which is non means tested. Its worth a look.
Very true, Top of the list who matter comes the illegal immigrants then train drivers and doctors, guess whose at the bottom of the list Old Aged British Pensioners.
I bet the mp's that vote for it will claim the £3.400 heating allowance
REFORM THE ONLY WAY TO GO IMO
We need to stop paying our taxes.
Do the illigal immigrants get free gas and electricity in the 5 star hotels you put them up in ???
Yes they do
They did when the tories put them in there, along with a£49 weekly allowance - yet I never heard a whimper about it for the last fourteen years.
My mother in law won’t get the payment as she is £20 over the proposed cut line.
There’s money there. Just not for British pensioners.
Utter disgrace.
If she has a few medical conditions she may be eligible for Attendance Allowance which is not means tested. Its worth a look.
There are thousands of people who have said that they will name the MPs that vote to freeze a pensioner and make sure they are named over all platforms.
Look the mother in-law is 84 and it's cold now in the north east went to her house yesterday and guess what she's wrapped in a fleece blanket and winter hasn't started yet
LABOUR ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED ME.