Sensei's Secret | So I'm a Spider, So What?
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Beautiful soundtrack. I wonder which one it is :)
This is one of the few Isekais I've seen where Reincarnates have a real impact on the world simply by existing
Redo of Healer is better.
@@8BitGamer4life
That’s not an Isekai or reincarnation.
Not only that, the Isekai itself changes our point of view of the world there are living.
That time I got reincarnated as a slime, other world travellers have a real impact on that world. To the point where nations summoned a lot of them and some kids caught a deadly condition from it.
@@DoomsdayR3sistance True, this one crossed my mind
I can't lie, I would have stopped trusting her immediately if she went, "Some of your classmates are alive, some are dead, some aren't here, I know so much and I won't tell you who they are, where they are, or any information on them."
Edit: I'm not talming about the ones she kidnapped. It's obvious why they wouldn't trust her. I'm talking about the main characters.
why ? it makes more sense to trust her
I would have also stopped trusting her as well. Because what the hell? I was kidnapped at an young age and for the last 15 years of my life in the new world, I cant even get any answers?
@@MainGoldDragon she hids things
@@nicomartinez9951 oh by the way one of your classmates was reborn as a spider but is now a god.
@@BigFootTheRealOne Filimos doesn't know about that, as far as Filimos knows, Wakaba Hiiro is dead and that's it. You can't call it lying if you, yourself don't know the truth. also casually dropping spoilers....
“I told Potimas everything”
Well you see tech... that was your first mistake
And that was just the tip of the iceberg.
And that first step is one hell of a doozy.
I mean, if she had truly seen
tech, she would had known something was off from the get go, no? Like seeing one of those androids or the mechas he has stashed in some cave inside the Barrier, yea?
This mistake almost cements sensei as one of the worst characters in the novel.
@@exiel2740
I don’t think she is THAT bad
She just had a lot of incomplete information while being with one of the few beings who could complete most of that information for his own gain, leaving her with nothing
"Dies in battle in elf forest"
"Dies in battle in elf forest"
I'm beginning to see a pattern I'm not sure I like.
Also the one crossed out "Dies in childbirth"
@@SorwestChannel is that kumoko’s?
The "Dies in battle in elf forest" were for the same person, "Natsume Kengo", That's Hugo. her skill is saying Hugo dies in the Elf Forest Battle.
@@SorwestChannel what the BRITH???
@@HungryGuy3 1:00 someone died
"Dies in battle in elf forest in 20 years"
Sensei: hey, let's keep the kids in the elf forest for 20 years!
That was only Hugo.
Did you know in the light novel she cause a mass death , wanting her have her students live in the forest cause a huge wide world trafficking incidents with many children and people being killed , if only she had kept her mouth trapped she could of saved everyone from that big mess
@@be6386 Well the moment she made kidnapped 20 People children from there parents ,you know you mustn't wait a lot from her
@@zeroxcqt2862 well yeah I mean wanting to save your students from death and only resorting to kidnapping them without explain to them or trying to explain to them seems messed up
@RandomName yeah but not her trying different ways to tell , for example potimus knows of her skills and if someone uses appraisal then they can know , also the video doesn’t show just that her little kidnapping led a mass syndicate of bandits to cause a mass children trafficking system
Oh man, Poltimas just looks and sounds so trustworthy...
First impression is often wrong.
Sure is a great guy, I'd trust him not to give me a self destructing weapon, or shoot me in the back after a grueling battle, or sacrifice others for personal gain. Nah man hes a cool bro!
@@GodsPoisonSamael And he would *never* doom an entire world to death for some power that may or may not allow him to survive the end of his own planet.
Yeah, and he'd totally never do inhumane experiments on children and animals in an attempt to play God. Nope, not at all...
He definitely doesn't seem like he's gonna stab everyone in the back for personal gain or anything...
I like how this show has a character who enjoyed her previous life is now suffering to recover what can't be undone while other characters are so happy to embrace their new life. This contrast is really something.
Oh so this is why Sensei "thinks" Kumoko is dead! Her skill doesn't tell her that Kumoko is an immortal now
You're wrong about that, but it's spoilers to say why.
the "immortal" skill isn't really immortality, a person with it can be killed by Heresy Magic, Abyss Magic and it only functions inside of the system; Kumoko is immune to Heresy Magic tho, so it's just Abyss magic or teleporting her to another world/demi-plane away from the system.
It's a good idea/theory but the reasons Filimos thinks Wakaba Hiiro is dead is due to other reasons.
@@DoomsdayR3sistance can spider do suicade by using paraler will and make to much of herself to extend where her brain stop working?
@@HungryGuy3 errr? no? Don't fully understand the question tho. But Kumoko's parallel minds come from a skill rather than her own brain, so they don't actually consume any brain power, additionally thought acceleration increases her brain power but that is capped.
@@DoomsdayR3sistance sry my english bad so that why u probably didnt understand what i asked .anyway u understand all of it somehow
That is so usseful skill if it dont effect brain
The self-proclaimed Evil God D gave ms Oka that skill and handed her over to that vermin Potimas to create this situation. Oka never had even a fraction of the info she needed to make a proper decision. In a way you have to admire how D set the pieces on the board in order to create the maximum amount of conflict.
oi spoilers
What can you say - whatever she does, she does perfectly
@@trafionathebigenderfriend1127 but even she underestimated a certain spider.
casually dropping spoilers... sigh. But D is an evil goddess and the whole fecking system was her idea, what D did to Ms Oka is still not on the scale to what she did to Sariella or the inhabitants of that world by getting them to implement the system on themselves. And D probably also knew exactly how Potimas would continue to act...
@@DoomsdayR3sistance All D did was set up the system, shove the japanese reincarnators into it and give White a skill. Otherwise all D has done is watch.
The answer is no, she hasn't been a good teacher. But it's not her fault. She's been tricked by both potimas and the faulty skill that D gave her.
1st
But dude that's a spoiler!
Since you know about D your a light novel reader. If made it a good bit far but do you know if Kuruko (the spider, haven’t touch the light novel in a couple weeks so might be wrong) meets up with teacher here and they have a talk or something?
@@gavin_AP Not yet. They may be soon in the LN though.
@@TransistorLSD how is it a spoiler?
episode 16, 6:27
D: "I collected their souls, left their memories intact, and provided them with skills so that they could survive in that world. Beyond that, I provided a special skill to each of them, based on compatibility, along with making sure that everyone would end up as a race that best suited their soul's frequency.""
I appreciate the teacher's intentions ..... However, she was very stupid to hand everything over to Potimas, without having any idea what kind of person he is first
I mean... her other option, not telling anyone, isnt pleasing either, she would be letting people she is close to die... thats not an appealing option either
Truly a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.
tbf the guy was supposed to be her dad in this reincarnation, desperate as she was who would she have turned to?
She certainly can’t do it herself so she’d probably bet on her dad.
She was extremely desperate too and she new the risk but had to take it she says after this clip
@@Insidiouskiller bruh, it said most of them died in 20 years. I bet in 20 years she could go talk to them herself
Actually the problem started from when they were in Japon: she was their teacher but acted like a friend, also as she herself toll that was a fake personality she created, not her true self.
She still see them as little child, but tecnically they should have graduated from her a looong time ago! Is more like she the one that need them, not the other way...
she became dependent on her students to keep her own sanity. love the character development
She couldn't accept the fact that she got reincarnated so she keeps focusing over the fact that she was her teacher and that she has to protect them. She knows that Potimas has some ulterior motives but finding and "protecting" them is the only thing that hooks her up with her previous life
@@maverickvgc4220 in other words, she’s finding it very difficult to accept the new reality that is imposed before her, so has resorted to being their teacher to keep herself from going “down south”...
@@SUSsykage That ability didn't give her any choice. Of course she felt like a teacher when she died because she was in the middle of teaching class. But now she is given information on how all these people are going to die and she feels like she has to act on it. How can she sleep peacefully with such knowledge? Some are even slated to die before she would be able to walk.
Class Register is more like a curse tbh
a wise turtle once said "People often meet their destenies on their quest to try and avoid them"
meaning Teacher tryng to avoid their death may aswell have lead them too it
Looks at the light novels, uh yeah you kinda got your whole class in the elf village where one of your students is headed to with an army... Good job Oka. Walked right into that trope.
When death wants you it will take you. Doesn’t matter where you are.
Isn't there a ultimate spell of resurrection
@@JoseMendoza-JAM spoilers but yes its exclusive to the Hero and must be cast shortly after death ie before the soul *&^%#@! Also it raises the Taboo skill with every use.
@@GodsPoisonSamael Well lucky enough (spoiler) She will make sure they won't die
God this episode was so good. It had some of the best balance between our spider's perspective and the human. Seeing Merazophis and Sophia's Dad react to Kumoko's actions really builds up how terrifying she actually is. Finally revealing Sensei's secret also is a great way to build off of the previous episode, where Potimas notes that Sophia is a reincarnation. And the conversation with Gyurie finally started to reveal how much of a loser he is. Despite having almost no action, this episode was a great way to build tension.
by losers you mean yourself and MZX Omega? Redditors man.😹
@@anti.bctards7376 aaaaand there it is.
There're preparing us for the battle incoming in the next 4 episodes.
The biggest reveal for me was that all the bandits that were after Sofia were sent by the elves. Kumuko inadvertantly foiled her teachers rescue plan.
The sad violin song along with her sad face makes this moment even sadder..
I'm not crying ok..
@@kurikat
looolz
@@kurikat bruh
@@kurikat Yeah seeing Floyd get bodied was wayy more interesting.
@@anti.bctards7376 who is Floyd?
@@achmodinivswe9500 yorch floyd
Ngl, usually the human-centered episodes are meh, but this backstory is pretty good.
it was a elf-centered episode so yeah it was cool
there are two "human" characters that are interesting. Filimos and Karnatia. they are the only two that I really know of that have any kind of internal strife that don't fit into "generic isekai protagonist" other than our favorite spider.
The thing is that the human side is interesting when it doesn't center in Shun
@@foxboy64 Julius, Sophia and Merazophis are interesting as well. Specially Julius.
Exactly. The humans are boring as they are useless. More so on the elves of shitomas.
They say “A person often meets their destiny on the road they took to avoid it.” She may have caused their downfall by gathering them all in one place like that.
It's sad that whatever she doin might be the lead to everyone's death. It says a bunch of em is killed on the elf village... well she collected them and now the opposing army is on the way there... So they either get killed by the elves enemies while trying to fight (but they can't cause she don't allow them to train) or they become meatshields for the elves.
It said only one is gonna die in the elf village and that guy is Hugo.
Lol
I actually love both parts of the story.
Same here.
Same. I feel like we might get a merge eventually. Not sure how they'll do it though
Same
She doesn't even know she's been manipulated, that's pretty what you call a twist on the fair and unconditional duty towards her students
Glad to hear someone else say it.
a lot of people are failing to see the bigger picture. yes, you can understand why she did those things but she was wrong. she could have nature the students and give them the skills and tools to survive but instead she took her "role of the teacher" and made them into prisoners to "keep them safe". she took them from loving families and put them in a little plot of land(Buble) where they will not be harmed from the outside world. but they are not living life. they lose their families, friends, and a chance to live a life. they can`t go out and see the world or fall in love. they are living but they are not living life, not one worth living. by taking the danger out of the equation completely she made them no different than a charge bird.
Dude look at the cause of death for one of the students. It says there that they will die due to deprivation of skills. If you remember in early episodes she told the students not to train their skills. That has a meaning to it that will probably be explained later.
@@tintun8918 Generally speaking deprivation is "an act or instance of withholding or taking something away from someone or something". the main method to take someone's skills is 1st to beat them and then use ruler authority. you are trying to say the if that student has no skills there will be no skills to steal but considering you have to beat them 1st a lack of skills will not save that person. being able to defend themselves will. also, that applies TO ONE STUDENT NOT ALL. She is making all her students weak and dependent on her.
@@JayJayM57 are you caught up to the series or not? If not then be patient before passing judgement on her character. Spoiler below about skill Deprivation
She has seen that most of her students will die because they have their skills ripped off forcefully from them. The more skills you have, the more this method does damage to your soul. On the other hand, if you dont train, you won't die if your skills are taken from you. Most of her students were fated to die because normally they would have a lot of skills by training and when they are ripped off from them by Shiraori, they would end up dying. Oka sensei knew that they would die if they train their skills. But if they dont train them they would die from monsters and other threats. That's why she took them to the elf forest.
@@tintun8918 hehe, it is prepared for a very very far future
@@tintun8918 she couldn't predict that, because she didn't knew about shiras' plan and everything. She just tried to grab as many as she could. Like even after the battle at the elves forest she still doesn't know what is Shira doing, only that she is fighting against god
Knows her Students will die in battle in the elf forest.
Gets all her students in the elf forest to save them from this fate.
...
...Wait...
Only 1 person, Hugo
IT can change according to her actions
Spoiler kinda a light one but still.
D manipulates the skill to drive her crazy even putting false information. It's one of the things that enrages White, and pits her against D.
@@cuttlefish6839 lol hahaha D Troll ;-;
@@12tanuha21l
I feel bad now she only “kidnapped” them cuz she thought it was the best thing to do to stop them from dying :(
Yep if I'm not mistaken however she fails to kidnap a few thanks to kumoko
Well, to live a life in captivity and safe or to live life to fullest and face whatever risk out there.
She may have good intention, but she is treating them like PETS, taken all freedom and joy from theirs normal lives and also impose her wills into them like restrict them to use theirs skill, thus making them powerless to face whatever will come.
It's a diploma, the same as to free pet you rescued back to wild or to keep them as pet restrict theirs freedom to enjoy theirs lives.
@@johnwong5317 "live life to the fullest" --> and what if the skill says "X dies of starvation at the age of 2". Freedom is a luxury, that comes after food and lodging.
Doesn’t help her “dad” has killed some of them on purpose
@@Whale321 if you're gunna drop something like that, at least give people warning your post will contain spoilers. Just because you know something doesn't mean everybody else wants to be spoiled on it.
What she said about forgetting about your previous life and focusing on your new Isekai life is true because how can you just abandon everything about yourself just like that
Having a chance to live a different life, the only thing i´d keep, will be all my mistakes and my knowledge. NOT the relationships - being a baby, i´d probably mourn those for some years, only to continue forward & forge new ones.
I´ve seen too many isekai´s, where all MCs remembered their personalities, but forgot... almost everything else. All those reincarnated kids could be progenitors in that world, using their amassed knowledge to advantage of theirs and their nations. But no, they mysteriously forgot almost everything.
Being in her shoes, i´d probably try to grow up, find out the "bigger picture" of the world and then think about doing something about it. That way she probably would´ve find out, who Potimas really is.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I would have also focused on my new life. Ive been isekai and only have my knowledge, experience and mistakes from my previous life and nothing else, also a few skill points and what’s worse, I’m a infant. You really think I’m going to waste my entire new life after being reborn in a new world looking for other 20 of my classmates and my teacher, when even I don’t even know what to do.
Also imagine Sophia’ (SPOOKY) case, if I remember correctly she was bullied by the class ( someone can correct me, if I’m wrong) and she joined the demon side, then I don’t blame her, she had a difficult previous life so this is kinda like payback.
Me, I’m just going to try to survive the new isekai world on my own
@@Arturo-gh1on well, Sophia is very compicated person. Her personality some what distorted from her past self, due to various reasons.
@@Arturo-gh1on The demon side is not evil though.
@@nickmaster3886 yeah I founded that out when I watch the last episode a year ago.
She doesn't even know her soul has been manipulated, that's pretty what you call a twist on the fair and unconditional duty towards her students
Filmos : have I been a good teacher at all ?
The fandom, D and potimas : no you kinda suck
I honestly wonder what her reaction would be.
Kumoko disagrees.
@@tintun8918 Even Kumoko call her dumb (or something like that I dont remember :v)
It's a good hearted teacher just really desperate and stupid
Even when you try to change the future, fate will still screw you over.
Just ask Rika Furude
She knows how hard it is to change the future
“one meets their destiny on the road they take to avoid it”
Like final destination right
@@NoRegs30
In the words of a wise man from a video game. "Fate is another lie told by the gods. Nothing is written that cannot be unwritten.
1:07 Potimas: Ok, but were the arm flailings really necessary
yeah, about that baby you told us to kidnap....
-everyone involved died and now an omnipotent spidergod is hunting my men, care to explain?
Vampire girl?
Potimas doesn't blame Oka for that one, if anything, he saw it as an opportunity to deal with Ariel (whom he thought to be responsible). It was shown a few episodes ago
I kind of felt very sorry for her after this became clear, shes doomed to fail and shes knows it yet cant cant tell them. Very sad :(
Final destination comes to mind when she wanted to change their fate.
Everyone eventually dances with the grim reaper.
This is not final destination. She has the power to change their fate.
No items, Fox only, Final Destination
When Oka telepathy's for help, you can see one of the students names is crossed off the list.
Non-spoiler spoiler for this character who died offscreen, from the EX book releases that contain additional info:
Students name was Naofumi Kogure, and in Japan was known for being a crybaby. Their unique ability was "Tears Shed"; The user's tears crystalize and those crystals can be consumed to perform powerful effects (Buffing status, shooting beams, restoring HP or MP). He died when his village was attacked by monsters, never to be seen and only mentioned in a Japan perspective chapter.
Well realistically she didn't have the right to intrude on her students lives, even if she knew they might die. That's the reality they live in. I mean I can't even imagine life expectancy in the real middle ages.
That's a common misconception, actually. Life expectancy during the middle ages was so low because of all the childbirth and sickness deaths during young years. If you survived until the age of 20, you were very likely to live until 70.
@WhiteWhile in this series, it may be different, I personally don’t know. But in many other stories, those who gain knowledge of the future/destiny and try to change it inadvertently create/solidify said future/destiny.
Actually she didn’t have the right, she had the obligation.
I haven’t seen the anime, but I can only assume this is the Cliche “Teacher & Students get Isekai’d to another world”, type of thing.
In which case, it would then be her responsibility and duty to protect them.
There could always be a chance to return back to the original world, to send them back to their families, and if death is permanent, then that can not be done.
So it doesn’t matter if its ‘invasion of their personal lives’, she had every responsibility and duty to protect those kids and ensure their safety.
@@freddykrueger8076 Sorry, no you don't have an obligation to find and protect students just because you were their teacher in a past life. That's just dumb.
the fun part is that it is her protection that might bring their doom
So to summarize her actions and thoughts, "I am trying to protect you all by depriving you of your freedom, why will you all not just accept that as the teacher I am doing what I think is the best for you all?"
Ironically, aside from putting so many of the students she is trying to save under the influence of the biggest threat to them, she is doing exactly the opposite of what a teacher is supposed to do.
She is not kowingly putting them in danger, but the role of a teacher is to help their students grow, to help them gain the knowledge and life skills they will need as adults. Instead, she confines them in a "safe" space, depriving them of knowledge and the chance to gain a variety of new experiences and life skills. Thus they grow up to be nothing more than pawns incapable of independent and rational thought. No wonder that Shun and the rest turn out to be so limited and rigid in their thoughts and attitudes, because it is all they have ever been allowed to experience; while the students who avoided capture almost uniformly end up opposing the elves and can see the issues she has created with her mistakes.
Hmmmmm. Welp maybe maybe a remark most of them said that they died in the elven forest elven battle which is about to take place. I think she actually is compling with the destiny bringing the most of them their death
The only student listed as dying in the elf village battle is Hugo.
Most of them had "death by skill deprivation" (here stated as "stripped of skills and dies")
This one scene finally gave me a character in the future parts that I actually like on the non-monster side. It even makes me want the others to survive, just because it would make Sensei sad if they died.
I love how this show travels back forth in time
D laughing in the back and is like gid gud casual
She's a good person with good intentions and an okay teacher is what I got from this. I wonder how things might've progressed if she was able to fully disclose everything that she knew of their futures.
That's why they are trying to kidnap the vampire baby
0:22 Kanata Ooshima
Stripped of Skills
WN Readers: oh no
Ok. Looks like I get to read the WN to find out what happens.
Can u tell me pls?
@@HungryGuy3 Skills are given by the system and exists only within the system.
What do you think will happen, once that system will be forced to shut down?
@@wqweqwet1804 Bear in mind, the WN is the beta version of the story. Things have already been changed for the LN. So there's no way to know what later WN events will carry over to the LN (and thus its anime adaptation) and which ones won't.
@@RedXlV IMO the WN is better than LN. And the fact that half of students die from skill confiscation was said in wb, as well as the fact that death prediction is not solid and can be changed by other reincarnators actions. Also Shiro says that she will save reincarnators by creating a safe zone for them.
Gotta continue these clips, they are a fun watch!
Just two things :
One student
One spider
See this alone makes her a far more engaging character than any of the or even just other isekai characters because she's flawed but has good intentions she dosent start out perfect and have an easy and clear time of it really only the shield hero was able to pull something similar to this
At 1:00, already one student dead. Can't blame her trying to save the others. Imagine if there were more students scheduled to die in early infancy. Imagine living your life with a list of "students you could have saved but didn't". She probably did save a lot of them, even if she might have hasten the death of others, and done some collateral damage.
thats wakaba i guess, so it still isnt one dead
@@nonec384 Is it? If I check with the list at 0:10, I think it might be Naofumi Kogure?
@@nonec384 Naofumi dies off screen his village is attacked by monsters while he is a baby
Well, she is technically right, elf village is the safest please in the world and world outside soon will be covered in war, so teachers reasoning is right. Of course she wouldn't have a slightest idea that elf will use them as fuel for his spaceship.
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Nope actually
If one of them DIE IN THE ELVEN FOREST
Probably SOMETHING's gonna happen in the elven forest
> Be administrator D
> Give the teacher the student roster including how they die
> Have her be born as Potimas' daughter
> Enjoy the ensuing chaos
Imagine her actions of what she thinks are saving her students end up being the deaths she saw
*most students die in the elf forest*
“Yes let’s gather them all to the elves!”
@1:38, Is this why she hasn't been telling Shun everything?
Yep. It was a true d__k move by... well D. :)
Does that work on telepathy as well?
@@HungryGuy3 Any means on communicating the roster data to a student
@@Derekloffin what happens if she does?
@@okboomer6884 Not sure she even has the option to disobey the condition. It could well be a compulsion build into the skill (similar to how the various Sin and Virtue skills have compulsion effects on the user). That said, we just don't know (at least as far as I've read in the LN, maybe the JP Light novel has said, but can't say).
"I told Potimas everything-"
Kumoko would be face-palming so hard from that info.
I just hope she is not the kind to prove the Ooway's saying "One often finds one's fate in the path one takes to avoid it". That would be a really sad thing indeed.
And D is a B**** for hiding that horrible "fine print" just for her own amusement. I'm dead sure D is the true main Antagonist of this series. Or close to the top.
Potimas it's worst :v
In a comment I read that D gave her that ability to torment her as she knew how Oka felt about her students
The answer to all her questions: no.
She screwed their lives. Yes is true that the probably would die young but at least they will have a live, short but at least their own lives. Filimos doesn't understand one thing, the school is over, It have been during the last 30 years.
One of them died a few days after being born. I don’t think that’s a life tbh
@@fluffles1782 still doesn't excuse her for doing something really stupid, instead of having all them locked like pets she could have made them stronger, also, where are they? In the elf village and a war is about to explode there, so yeah, a bunch of teenagers with zero skills have the same chances to survive as a calf in a slaughterhouse
@@fluffles1782 yea but didnt one die at 2p age that not so bad
Save those who die fast
Or when they about to die go to them and save them then*
@@somakuruso They are literally babies how are they supposed to get stronger? Also some of them had skill related deaths. “Kanata: stripped of skills and dies.” She knows how they are going to die and the only one who has been said to die in the elf village is Hugo who she didn’t even kidnap
@@HungryGuy3 Tbh dying at 2 years old is pretty bad ngl. Also she did try to save those that died fast. We also shouldn’t assume she’s going to be able to save them in the nick of time either if she does leave them with their family.
If she cant tell the students but can tell others like potimus, tell our boy heroes shield guy who isnt a reincarnation and HE can tell the students.
I love the backstory and all I can't wait until kumoko and Ariel fight So that the story comes full circle
So that why the elf is after the vampire baby!
I like this series because they have like a wide range of reincarnates who actually have an effect and there are like two stories with a time difference
Oka claims she is doing it for her students, but in reality she is doing it for herself. She tied all of her self-worth to her students, so she accepts any method to save them because she doesnt want to feel worthless, even if the students were turned into prisoners.
I never expected see Oka's chapter in the anime :o
* 4 episodes left *
Damn, straight up gimped into the support role of this MMO
"One often meet his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
Tbh you can't really blame her, the only thing she knew were that her students would die (some of them would die as babies if she did nothing) so she needed to act quickly. She just had the double bad luck of being born an elf, and hipopotimas daughter (although it sas probablly more malice than bad luck)
So that’s why she was being so annoying about not telling them anything
Ella no era mala, me siento mal por ella, solo quería proteger a sus estudiantes, pero no sabía y que a quién le pidió ayuda realmente no era de fiar, pues obviamente Potimas nunca lo fué ...😢😓
No, sabía que con eso condenaría a sus propios estudiantes, y solo por pedirle ayuda a la persona menos indicada😓😓😓
Obviamente en esa parte, y sobre todo en la novela que está muy buena, se las recomiendo, la historia de la maestra es muy buena
Sensei is the kind of character who works hard to save everyone yet ultimately fails to save _anyone_
I almost started to like elves, but she made me come to my senses. Elves are horrible people
With just the exeption of Filmos, the elves are the. (Spoiler)
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main antagonist of the show, specially potimas, Filmos is a victim of the circunstantes settled by D, and Shiraori is a copy of wakaba hiiro AKA D memories with a new personality in the body of a pet spider that was in the class on japan, thats why the she is the person that Cares the most about her and thats why she got super angry when knew oka's situation, because when she was a spider en japan, Oka saved her of being squashed, that why Shiraori cares so much about Filmos.
Actually, Shiraori only cares about Filimøs and the reincarnations that are with her, sophia and wrath (shoko and kyoya) and she only cares for them because the circunstances were perfect for her to help them, if she didn't encounter Sophia as a baby, the reincarnations that lived well are the nobles, two that becamed aventurers so they can defend themseves and the Kumo party after she becamed an arachne and then a goddess, everyone else suffered because of D torturing Filimøs with that curse of a skill
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Filimøs’ love of spiders saved her. If Kumoko hadn’t liked her so much, she would’ve killed her as soon as she figured out that Filimøs was the reason the elves were able to find the reincarnations.
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Filimøs is kinda related to Ariel, since ariel is a creation of potimas, that will make them Half sisters, and i think there will be the answer of saving her from potimas Claws
@@davidsamudio3899 Did you read about this? If you red something I did't please let me know
@@Dzsorden1 about Shiro and Filimøs, thats Volume 9, about the second comment, thats a WN trivia
The restrictions on the roster ability are pretty dumb. She can't tell them anything but she can tell Potimas everything. Potimas knows they're in danger and knows the teacher has some way of knowing this. He could easily guess the rest and then inform the kids. She's an idiot for trusting Potimas, a total stranger to her.
She was a weak helpless baby and couldn’t do anything but rely on her father.
I mean, he's her father (unless he adopted her after). Regardless, it's not like she had any other connection.
Except Potimas doesn't care to inform them. It doesn't benefit him or suit his goals in any way.
The conditions of the roster are unclear (as seen elsewhere in the show, the definitions of skills are often vague or unclear). There could still be consequences of laundering its information through another person. And Oka needed to use the roster to track down others, so she didn’t want to risk it.
She panicked. You can see one of the names crossed out when she first talked to Potimas. It means one of her students is already dead.
1:51 Yo in are Sensei
It's especially sad when you realize that even if they were going to die young, they could have been happy while their lives lasted. Instead, some of them were kidnapped from their new homes and locked up like Rapunzel, all to survive instead of live.
I can’t help but notice she had “Parallel Minds”
I think that was a skill buy screen. It seems like the first thing after reading the list was to try to find a way to communicate and purchased telepathy, so she doesnt have to learn to talk first.
It was a skill shop. Not her skills
Lots of people have that skill, they just dont let it run 24/7 like Kumoko. Also in the books she had 9 other personalities before body brain went AWOL and jumped ship to attack Ariel lol. Imagine 9 voices in your head arguing at one time.
@@GodsPoisonSamael Yep, Kumoko seems to have overlooked that Parallel Minds can be toggled on/off, and thus hers became full-blown split personalities. Which is crazy in the most awesome way possible.
She’s so cute as a baby lol
She was right about gathering her students but she didn't go look for Kumoko and decided to leave her out of this problem knowing that now Kumoko is becoming a treat to everyone.
In a way she fail to look for Kumoko who is now having the world against her
She prioritized students who had deaths closer than others and students who were easy to reach. Kinda hard to go for anyone living in the labyrinth
Kumoko(Wakaba) was listed as dead on her list. Which is why. I'm sure if if she was not listed as dead Oka would have tried to find her.
This explains why she knows what kumiko is
if anyone thought she wasn’t a good teacher i would be surprised
I mean, it's always a good way to teach people by showing them how not to do things!
Tried to be a good teacher but look at Kumoko’s past life bruh
depends are you talking before reincarnation if so she was a good teacher, but if you are talking after she was horrible. she turned her students into prisoners to "protect them".
So you think kidnapping is good?
@@governmeharderdaddy596 yall missing the point and will see later most of that class would have died and did you miss that some of those kids were sold to the elves so yea parents willing to sell their kid for cash is gonna have a great life
Why is she the most cutest child I ever seen of my life?
I see now why they skipped the friendly elf part.
in her defense she didn't start the fire she just made it worse .
Thats not sound any better
She started it :v
If they didn't get captured most of them would probably become strong adventurers or at least decent fighters
@@leonel392 in a defense on that, how would she knew that they would be forced to fight? I mean shun was the only student that actually had to
I'm guessing the administratiors gave her this skill so she could round up all the reincarnations and prevent them from getting stronger so they couldn't stop the world from ending
D gave her the skill for entertainment, watching her to struggle
D is just a troll who enjoys suffering really.
Hmm okay things are starting to make sense now. More questions for later. For now, can't complain.
She wasn't perfect but knowing when and how people you care about would die is a massive burden. Regardless of the end result she definitely didn't do what she did with ill intent or any idea what would happen after.
If you look at how these students died on the teachers roster, you will find that the way they died is similar to how some of them have already died due to circumstances cause by the teachers interference.
Only the future death of 2 persons were shown. Ooshima‘s future death can also mean that the system will collapse, something that Kumoko want to prevent.
@@12tanuha21 heh
The way she walks forward at the end looks like the Saul Goodman meme
People are trying to say she was either in the wrong or is right...but in reality, this is a very grey subject...she literally had children stripped from their parents which is awful...but it was to save many them from their early deaths. I think all in all what she did has more pros than cons.
The big mistake she did make was keeping all of this information to herself because that doesn't help anyone, not even herself. If she came clean about her skill and the status's of the whole class they would've trusted her more.
Does the spider ever meet them plus it is a ok anime series!!!
The anime is really good but they need to include the spider more her energy is very good whilst the others are just dull and they might meet in the future
@@IMRVAL kumoko is literally in every episode
I read the LN, so I can assure you that they do meet. The anime adaptation is though, is quite good. It skips some of the stuff from the human side, which is why most people don't like those parts, however, it is quite an enjoyable experience.
SPOILERS
you've been warned...
Kumoko becomes Shiraori, or the "white" lady. She meets a couple of the reincarnations (she has already met Sophia after all) but her miniature spiders are all over the place and inform her of what is going on everywhere. But well, events certainly are going a certain way... so we will definitely hear more about it all in an episode or two.
@@locusxe1411 nah like when she got out of the cave stuff it’s been focusing on the humans instead she only gets 5min of screen time lol
Did her ability tell her anything about one of her students being a 🕷? 🤔
And did she have to kidnap them as babies? The ability said "20 years", she could of waited for them to become old enough that it wouldn't be traumatic and they could make their own decisions.
one of them died the moment she found the list. the others some literally were sold to the elves not just kidnapped. So if their family was so bad off they would consider selling their child what kinda life is that
One of them died right that moment as she was was reading the list. Another one was listed as dying at age 2 of starvation. *Some* of them had 20 years before they were predicted to die, but others were much sooner. It makes perfect sense than she would try to save them immediately.
1 although she had good intentions she never gave me confidence and 2 the story is interesting but I think I prefer the story of the spider
Sorry, gotta agree with the people saying she’s in the wrong. Sure, she had good intentions but
A) they would’ve died eventually, it is inevitable (as sad as it is) all she did was delay it for another few years
B) I do understand that the deaths could’ve happened within the 20 year period but we have no way of knowing which is right and if it’s at the end of said 20 year period then she could’ve done saved them herself
C) if she could’ve gotten those skills by doing diddly-squat, she could’ve done something herself, even if most of them were skills elves were born with
D) couldn’t she have had her dad take her to the families and tell them how it could happen and help the families stop it from happening, that’s INFINITELY better then selling and/or kidnapping BABIES
E) she really trusts a skill that (as far as we can tell) doesn’t give race and/or location. If it can peer into the future, it should (logically) be able to do something as trivial as that! The fact that it seems to not do so mean that D might not have wanted her to meet them too soon (most likely because D wanted to make the teacher suffer a bit but also maybe because she wanted the reincarnated to live their own lives on their own for a while)!
Sorry if it’s a bit long, also I might not reply immediately (phone still keeps making the comment section disappear and I haven’t seen any tips for that yet) so please be patient and respectful in whatever thread follows!
Regarding the time frames of their deaths. Some of them would've been at the end of that 20 years, while others would've been much earlier. She watched one of them die right at the moment she was looking at the list for the first time. Another was set to die in only 2 years. *That* is why Oka-sensei considered it urgent to buy the Telepathy skill and get her father to go save them right away, instead of waiting until she grows up and can go do it herself.
Also, her dad is evil. She didn't realize this at the time, but he wouldn't have bothered to take the reincarnations' parents in with them. Only the reincarnations themselves were useful to him.
@RedXIV I agree with the evil part, but is she sure that the person actually died, and I’m saying could she have used one of her numerous skills to help out her students herself as is instead going to ask someone she barely knew and (at least by the looks of what was shown) rarely saw. Also, I would’ve tried to get him to stop when she found out he was buying and/or kidnapping them instead of just bringing the whole family in.
Ignorance truly is bliss. Being cursed with knowledge isn’t something to scoff at.
Maybe the real reason they are mad at her is because they all look incredibly generic. While she looks like someone actually thought about her appearance for 10 seconds
Honestly seems like most of them would've faired better if she hadn't existed, so no not good teacher, especially since she kept information she didn't have to secret from them, leaving them ignorant and unprepared (not talking about roster info, but everything else she learned about the world and kept a secret). Also it doesn't take a genius to notice how many deaths are listed in the elf forest and then realize bringing them to the elf forest might be a bad idea.
How many deaths ? The only one mentionned is Hugo and Katia. Hugo dies in the Elf Forest battle, Katia dies after having lost all of her skills in unknown circonstances (that also explains why Oka doesn't want the reincarnations to developp their skills). By the way, Hugo goes in the Elf Forest on his own, not by force.
If the anime keeps this pace... then SPOILER BELOW
Next chapter is the war and a bit on the heroes side... Fei will learn what happened to Hiiro Wakaba (who she used to bully)... or at least what sensei thinks happened to her... and maybe Wrath's first appearance. Maybe cliffhanger of Ariel, Julius and Kumoko facing each other... and then Kumoko's "death" and rebirth as an Arachne.
Followed by Potimas vs Kumoko arachne and Magical Girl Ariel's grand entrance. Then last chapter of season 1 would be Shiraori appearing before the heroes and killing Hugo.
In the anime Fei already knows what happened to Hiiro (at least, as you say, what sensei thinks happened to her). Not sure why, but they moved up that info WAY early way back during the early part of the academy stuff.
@@Derekloffin haaaah!? But that's lame! I wanted to see her reaction animated after reading the LN... at least I hope they get to really animate Wrath's first appearance and Shiraori revealing herself to the class before the S1 ending...
@@vargas1445 You can still see her reaction as a dragon in the anime, it is just much earlier. If you were hoping to see her reaction in humanification, yeah, you're out of luck.
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that could happen and at the same time Kumoko (now White or Shiaori) starting her travel with Ariel, Sophia and Mera
The humans were already a deconstruction of isekai tropes, and this is probably the best that the human part has probably to offer.
And a spider killed the elf's that tried to protect the vampire, but of course we now know something that is important.
Her mistake was trusting Potimas as simple as that.
Ah, kidnapping babies, clearly what all true teachers strive for.
most of the students deaths: diet in battle in the elf forest
potimas and the teacher: LeTS LOcK thEm IN ThE ELf FoREsT
I can just imagine poltimas head thought just
"Why does my newborn daughter already know how to converse perfectly"
and how did she know the language? or does the telephaty ability automatically translate stuff?
"I couldn't tell my students"
Okay, so tell someone else and get them to tell the students?
Can't she just write it and give it to someone else. Or find someone with the skill to read her mind and tell them. They have not specified the dos and don'ts.
I honestly feel a lot of sympathy towards Oka ngl.
So even with all of her information, she couldn’t find Kumoko? Or is she even a part of this class to begin with?
On the list her name was already crossed out
If you want spoilers
Komeko was in the class but not part of the class she was a spider living on a web in the corner.
The girl Komeko thinks she is was D a major god who was hiding out on earth. D shoved a fragment of her soul on the spider and sent it with the human souls to the fantasy world hoping it would serve as a decoy and distract from the fact D survived. Komeko ruins this by surviving.
It's also why Komeko doesn't have a name when appraised like the other reincarnated people who show there old name.
Komeko isn't on the roster as she wasn't a student and since Ds still goofing off in japan no one's in the Isikai world to fill that spot on the roster
I thought D put a fragment of her soul into kumoko because she knew that kumokos soul wouldn't survive the crossover to the other world.