I've got 11 ASE certs altogether. I took some of the truck and truck equipment tests. (more patches!) I am the ONLY tech at my shop with any ASE certifications. And yes, the highest paid tech at the shop. I think it shows general knowledge and commitment to a career in the automotive repair industry. I did it for personal pride at first. Getting my L1 was my goal. Now I recertify because I know I'll keep making more money.
I have A1-A9 and L1 I’ll never let them go. It’s one of the first things employers ask for. If nothing else, do it for yourself. Show some pride for what you do!
Important...if you want to have an employer. Or, you could build your own customer base and give yourself a massive pay raise. I've had one customer in six years ask me about certification. Imho, agreed, do it for yourself. it's good to put yourself through the study and process, which forces you to learn things that you don't necessarily use everyday, but may come in handy. Or if simply you like knowing stuff.
How about for DIY people that want the expertise of a ASE Certification? I love working on my car, have a couple of thousand dollars worth of automotive tools and I would love to gain the technical expertise of an ASE Certified technicians. Test look relatively cheap and I doubt it has the complexity of a 3 level CFA certification which I have taken before. Thoughts?
My ases has gotten me in so many doors I'm not a master yet I got about 4 of them usually the people that cry about ase is because they can't pass the test
Some shops specifically only look for those who are certified(where i live, every shop has to employ at least one master tech in order to operate). It also gives you hint as to the quality you might expect from that shop. I believe certs get your foot in the door, and your experience takes it from there.
@@derekdlick2516 The National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence is an, "independent" non-profit organization. Independent organizations can't be mandated by law and neither can their certifications. That would render them no longer independent if the government mandated them. If the government required them by law, then that would be government promotion of that particular organization. What about people in the automotive industry that are certified or trained by auto makers? Do they are also need ASE certification? That makes no sense. Some type of certification is required to service air conditioning though.
I became a Master Tech in 1987. I’ve studied and kept up with all the changes in technology along the way so I believe it not only signifies my commitment to the industry but to the ongoing training necessary to repair todays vehicles. I embrace the new developments and find some of the stuff coming in the future to be exciting.
We are only going to hire ASE Techs from now on. If you dont have them, in our shop, you are considered an apprentice. Huge difference in attitude, right from step one. I get paid for every passed test. If they dont license us, then we have to be accountable to ourselves and those tests are the best way.....right now. Hold that quality line for our trade and be proud of it! Thank you Mike.
First two questions I ask when hiring a guy are 1 Are you ASE Certified and 2 What kinda of tool box and tools do you have. So many guys say they have a nice box and tools and have shown up with a roll cart and not enough tools to do the job. ASE definitely helps but tools show a lot also. Have a great week.
Yes, it is worth it. I have been certified since 1975 when ASE was then known as the "National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence" (NIASE) and currently have earned and hold Master Automotive and Master Medium-Heavy Truck in addition to C1, F1, L1, L2, L3 and was M1, M2, M3 certified. It has been more than worth the time, effort and expense for the ASE certifications in numerous ways. My ASE certifications have value and have helped open doors of opportunity for employment, remaining employed, employment promotions, pay increases, attracting clientele, retaining clientele, securing service contracts, building confidence, attracting and securing business opportunities, attracting and securing business partners, securing financing, and in winning court cases.
You are 100% correct. My job pays for the tests when you pass them and for every ASE you obtain, you usually get a raise. ASE shows your employer you are committed and you are willing to take the time outside of work to better yourself.
Great points, I’ve heard it all about how “they just hand those things out” or “it won’t make a difference in your pay” and this and that but truthfully it really does help in the long run. Most places require them to even be considered. Getting certified really opens up more opportunity for better places to work.
Very fair, and direct. Some places like you had mentioned don't pay more for them. But it does show that you are dedicated to that field of work. And I'm studying to do just that for my own accomplishment.
YES, in my opinion,it’s definitely worth it. It might make the difference between you getting a job or not. In this day and age you need to prove that you have taken the time to test and care about your profession. I received my 25 year ASE toolbox magnet a number of years back. (Yes I’m old) My first patches were orange with gears on them. I have been listening to your videos for a while. I would be really surprised if you had any trouble passing the L1 test. I took L1 the first time in 1994 when it first came out. It has gotten much more advanced every 5 years when I take the recertifications. Isn’t that the idea? Keep up on technology. Keep up the great videos!
Great video thanks brother. This has been a very interesting subject. I think I have heard both sides of this subject. I was out of school then didn't need it. I have a buddy who I think has everyone you can get. Depending on your situation. Keep up the great work see you in the next video thanks again brother
Having ASE’s look good when applying for a job and some places compensate for having ASE’s. Overall the most important thing is having experience. An ASE patch doesn’t mean much if you lack experience.
Hello sir, my son is ASE certified, it's helped him make more money, he's been offered more money by other dealer's. Then given a raise to stay. He is a parts guy
You've hit the nail on the head! I've been in shops that don't give a rats butt about ASEs, they just give you 30days to put your tools where your mouth is. On the flip side, the shop I'm at now, wouldn't hire me until I had ALL ASE Master credentials current (a couple had slipped and didn't realize it). I like to keep them current anyway just for my own self pride!
Spot on, brother. Just got my master cert and will continue on with l1 and hybrid. I even picked up some good tips during the studying that I never know about! I really did think the tests were difficult! I did better on the engine performance and electrical than I did on brakes and chassis being a student of scanner danners channel.
100% worth it. It may not REALLY matter with regards to your skills as a mechanic but it makes a big difference when you present yourself to customers and employers. Plus, my dealership reimburses techs for the cost so there is no reason not to. It's the same as any other industry, they all have their own certifications.
Im ASE certified in 5 areas working on my last 3 for master. I disagree with you when you say "it doesn't prove anything with your abilitys as a technician". Matter of fact I would argue the opposite. Theres alot of guys who can flag hrs but dont understand how the systems they are working on function. They're called part eplacers. They dont know how perform hardly any diagnosis either. ASE test you on your ability to properly repair vehicles to standard, how the systems work, and how to diagnose them correctly. Now does it prove you have a ton of hands on experience? Not nessesrialy, but it does prove your competence and that you are capable of performing the nessary repairs needed for whatever issue and vehicle you are working on.
The more credentials hanging on the wall the more customer confidence there is in the techs ability. The first thing i was asked in my last job interview was are you ASE Master Certified and L1? I said yes. The next question was when can you start? All the other techs were Master Techs as well.
You got to put it on PAPER in black & white. Like all Certifications it shows you put in effort and continue your education. The day you stop learning, you ain't turning anything (well maybe burgers)...
The l1 is something you should get. It shows that you can comprehend modern ECM,PCM systems and diagrams The new composite vehicle book came out in 2015 or 16. If your a diagnostician it’s a must. The l1 isn’t about being a good test taker. It’s about understanding systems and diagrams. And how the systems work.
I think you’re right. Doesn’t mean you have the talent to go with it. But it does mean you are committed to learning and staying current in our field. Hvac, electricians, plumbers and others have to be licensed to work. Why not us? Just because you have a tool set doesn’t mean you should be repairing vehicles. Someone could be killed. But I’m glad we have something such as ASE. I go back to the NIASE days and was happy to participate.
As long as I'm in the automotive industry I'll keep my certs up. I have A1-A9 L1 X1 G1 C1 and working on more. Why not it doesn't hurt to have them. The cost is not much compared to what we sometimes waste money on. Some shops care some don't in the end my career is mine not theirs.
Absolutely what I was taught in tech school many years ago. However I believe it is falling off because they now allow you to recertify after six months of expiration instead of having to retest like they used too.
I know it’s an old video, but here’s my take. I started my career on school buses. The company gave a bonus for ASE certification, so I took the tests and became a Master School Bus Technician. I now work on trucks. My company gives a bonus, so I took the tests and became a Master Truck Technician. If your company pays for the tests and gives a bonus if you pass, and you won’t take the tests, it means you’re lazy. Those same guys that won’t take them are the ones constantly complaining about their pay, but they do the bare minimum
I have to agree Mike I've been ase certified since I started in the industry back in 02 now I have master l1. But I've done it for me my old boss didn't appreciate them but my new boss does 😊
General Motors still requires them in order to go master for the brand. Chrysler as well. I started going for mine this year, and am really glad I did.
Worth it. Im double master (car/truck) L1&L2 with additional transit bus certs. My bosses know the ASE certs are valued by employers. Your employer will treat you much better knowing you would easily have a new job before you get home if they mistreat you.
Definitely worth it, I think most shops around me require some level of ASE certification just to be considered for employment. I do know of some really good mechanics that aren't ASE certified, but only because they don't test well. Great video and thanks for sharing
I agree with what you are saying about the ASE standard as I come from the marine world. As a shop foreman (engine maker cert is what i mostly look for) but it is still funny the way you put it, I just interviewed a Yamaha 5 star tech last week and he struggled to change a flat tire on a boat trailer. So im happy I did not ask him to make me a BLT!!!!
Great vid Mike. Lets look at it this way...... if these individuals who do not support this type of education think it is so easy and meaningless why not get the training and take the exam? Its so easy right? Just think what IT DOES say if you fail it!
I'm a little late but I still want to put my 2 cents in. I like to tell people before you bash ASE, go take and pass L1 the first time, without studying. If you cant pass their top test, you really cant talk down to it in my opinion.
I definitely wouldn't be able to get it first time without studying. Although several weeks of studying, I can definitely get it. I'm shooting for that test after I get all my other certs
It's definitely worth it a 💯 percent ! Why not differentiate yourself from other Technicians in the field. It's all that we really have to prove we know what we say we know.
40 years in the automotive business (gas, diesel, lng/cng) I know plumbers that can pass an ase test. but it takes years as an apprentice to become a "journeyman plumber". the tech schools just turn out people who can pass a test. we put some students to work banging knuckles and a lot of them rethink their choice of profession.
thanks for this. i’ve been working on cars personally for 5 years, but i feel my current resume wouldn’t work in the industry (im a caregiver for special needs). im not getting younger and i’ve always enjoyed working with my hands. starting with ASE passing results on a resume i think would better help my chances in transitioning careers.
You are right, besides the feeling of accomplishment, it's a bargaining chip when looking for a job or a raise. It's also a feather in the cap of the shop owner who can advertise they employ certified Technicians. In some states, such as Hawaii, it's part of the state mandated licensing process that you must have to work as a Technician in the state. Good job Flat Rate Master, you are a sensible dude. Everybody is a critic about something or other.
I have had so many job offers because of my master ase. Was relocating 1 time put ad in paper and got 12 offers 1 afternoon. The place i work now pays a dollar an hour for each certification. Plus they pay time for testing plus tests
My goal is to get ase master. Yes most dealers dont care while others require it to be certified in different specialists areas up to gm master, nissan master and so on. As a former kia tech no we were not required to get certified in conjunction with thier training but they encouraged the techs to have them. It all depends on who you work for.
I have done the UK equivalent, the IMI Master Technician accreditation, been a master for over 8 years, for me it was a personal choice to prove to myself I can call myself a Master Technician. Would recommend any tech to get accredited.
Sorry FRM being late to the video. Strong valid points. I would do ASE certifications but the one thing employers never look twice at or even question are my UA-cam certified patches and plaques. All kidding aside, you do make this industry a difference. I feel that the ASE certs. shows that you actually give a fuck torquing bolts to the specifications required and all procedures start to finish actually get done. Shows a sign of trust between customer and tech if you know what I'm getting at. Anyways sorry for the rant... keep up the good work FRM!
Worth it 100%! It helped me leaps and bounds as a technician. It does show a big commitment to employers and customers. I am ASE certified master tech since September 2018 and my doors for high paying jobs have opened up tremendously since then. Wear the patch with pride but back it up with you skills, knowledge, and experience.
This is a question for the community and great video by the way!! Question- Can I get my ASE certifications before applying for a technician job? I used to work at Sears years ago but now want to get certified to have credentials and for pride reasons. Thanks in advance everyone 👍🏾💯
Ase is definitely worth it. I had a lot of trouble getting my 3 it took many years to get them do to being absolutely horrible at test taking. One thing that sucked was watching people I trained pass when I kept failing. In the end I had to take a couple of college prep classes not related to the automotive field to gain the necessary skills to pass a test before I could pass an ase some people just have a hard time with tests but it isn't a not to try every 6 months or so till you get it
I can't wait to start getting mine. My old job told us all that we didn't need them. When I started interviewing for a new job that was always asked during the interview if I was certified. It sucked having to explain why I didn't have any at all. Now im trying to study for my first one
I plan on getting recertified and getting my master status in automotive and heavy truck. I will probably take other ase tests. But I plan on doing it as a personal accomplishment.
I defiantly agree. I have seen so many ASE " master technicians" that couldn't change a lightbulb. personally haven't re certified my ASE for a couple years now but only cause I paid and set up my tests then broke my hand really bad and couldn't take the test and they refused to give a rain check or refund or anything. Hundreds of dollars out of pocket gone. I am going so sighn up again real soon just hate having to pay twice.
I love repairing vehicles, but i'm not doing it for a living. I'm doing it to help people out and help myself out financially by doing my own work I would love to do it as a regular job, but no one would hire me without that certification. Recently, I was thinking about going back into it, but I feel it's too late at the age of 48 to get my certification... I do other things for a living now but it's nothing that I love... I love repairing cars do you think it's worth it for me to go for it and study?
Depends on where you work. My personal experience it didn't matter. I was Ase certified and when I walked in for the interview with my resume and all my aftermarket classes that I had taken. I was told straight out it doesn't matter. That was at a ford dealer mind you. So I worked there for about six months first month making a killing. Well guy's starting bitching and crying about my hours and I was making 10.00 hour with 2.00 a hour for every tech hour I turned. They cried. Well I got my paycheck one week and it was half of what it's suppose to be. I said something to my boss and he told me your not a master tech you should be lucky to have a job. Well I quit with a customer's car torn apart. I had my trailer hooked to my truck. I backed into my bay and loaded my box and cart. I made a phone call to a truck shop when I was leaving the dealer and I was hired over the phone starting at better money with a guarantee. Now I work on cars for fun and I work on fire trucks and dump trucks for a living. It all depends on where you work.
I had a very similar experience with a Ford dealership. And they wonder why they are short 10+ techs. I left and went elsewhere where my certs are sought after and appreciated and making a lot more money.
Fuck yes get all your ase. Especially if it's going be your career. Goo all the way. It's cool to look back on when you are old and the best part is you are learning.
I'm actually starting at a new shop in 2 weeks that pays you $1/hr more for every ASE you get. I'm leaving from a dealership that really doesn't even want to send their people off to the manufacturer training. I'm a senior tech for this manufacturer and have taken all my only courses to be master, but have been waiting over 2 years for them to send me to the instructor lead training to be master, I'm 3rd highest paid in this shop and still can't pay my bills. My shop offered me less to stay than the independent shop did starting out with no ASE certs. I feel that ASE certs can be an important tool. I'm a little nervous going to this shop as it moves me from flat rate back down to hourly, but all of their techs are hourly, they've been around 30 years, 19 bay shop, 150 cars a day, and have a 4.9 google review. So we'll see how it goes. But great video as always!
I've never worked anywhere willing to pay for them, so I don't bother with it. My current boss was more worried about me being able to fix a car than a piece of paper in a frame. If they'd pay me for em? I'd be taking the tests tomorrow.
I think its really only helpful for lawsuits. Thats why dealerships and manufacturers are now asking for them. Lemon law has caused a lot of frivolous lawsuits. Judges/jurors like credentials when you make your case.
I have 12 ASE certifications. I've been master certified for 18 years now. I just recertified again. I think it is worth it. Back in 2001 right after I got my ASE's my pay almost doubled.
I've been considering going for ASE, but I looked on the website and it shows there are no test centers in Canada 🤔. There are licenses to be an auto Tech here but I'd like to further Myself. You can never learn too much.
tiberianexcalibur I kinda stay away from oil changes cause I started off as a lube tech at a mobile 1 shop so I got over a thousand oil changes under my belt so I do more engine repair tasks then anything else. Unless the instructor asks me to do a oil change
Seasoned veteran auto tech here with some friendly advice.... Get out while you still can. There's no money to be made in the automotive industry. Look into the HVAC program at your school, you'll thank me later.
I did not keep mine up after I went to yellow iron, I would like to see the difference in the testing today.. from what they asked in 1990 just on A/C or brakes something simple..same test today how much differences is there
Recetified my A1 today, they are getting a little tougher. Still got 24 of 25. But I've been a mechanic for 14 years. Recently moved on to Commercial Trucks, keeping my a1-a8 for promotional reasons. Union Strong.
Another benefit to ase is its recognized nation wide. Factory training is good but it is only with that particular car / truck manufacturer. If you go to work for a different brand they don't recognize your achievements
I have my A6 and A8 ide like to go for the rest but it's so hard to find good resources and training for anything other than electrical and engine performance..got any suggestions on resources or channels for A1?
Got my first ASE. Back in the 80s and is all about the wellness and patient and knowledge and experience especially experience and is on going study each year
Agree that it shows dedication to the industry. It takes a good bit of time to go take and pass 8 test to be master certified. You can be good at taking test but if don't have some knowledge of the series of test your taking you will fail it.
Im an ASE Master Technician with all my ASE certifications. I also have a mechanical and electronic engineering degree. I also the play the guitar, drums, trunpet, piano, sing opera, rock, death metal, country music songs, I write poetry, books on calculus, geometry and algebra. Im also a comedian, a circus clown, a social worker, and a fan of horror movies. Im also a profesional chef with experience in Asian, Italian and Moroccan food. Im only 98 and looking forward into my future as a rocket scientist, and movie producer....
Here in Australia we have no ASE we are either qualified mechanics or not. Unqualified guys just don’t seem to look for work in this industry I don’t know if that’s a problem or not in the US but because of that having just a standard qualification level works
What does a nearly 40 year old who’s contemplating a career shift do? I’m interested in this field to get into building race cars and working on race cars, but not very able to travel to the races with the family situation. Of course gotta start at the beginning, and yes I am pretty green. I do my own simple service work in my shop or driveway. But I’m not even calling myself a driveway mechanic as I basically just do fluids and brakes…
i think my snap on bill proves I'm committed to this industry.
Or just a really dumb oil change kid, but I see your point.
At least you’re committed to tool payments
My harbor freight bill says the same, lol.
It does to a point.
Man.... Its good to have a whole bunch of tools BUT thats to be profitable in this trade, not debt owed to snap on.
I've got 11 ASE certs altogether. I took some of the truck and truck equipment tests. (more patches!) I am the ONLY tech at my shop with any ASE certifications. And yes, the highest paid tech at the shop. I think it shows general knowledge and commitment to a career in the automotive repair industry. I did it for personal pride at first. Getting my L1 was my goal. Now I recertify because I know I'll keep making more money.
I’m a ase master tech and about 450lbs. Your damn right I can fix a sandwich..... or 2........ or3 🤣🤣
How do you work under the dash?? I'm 6 ft, 220 lbs with long skinny-ass fingers and I can barely pull it off...
6’0 -300lbs and I find a way bloody knuckles later. 🤷🏾♂️
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I have A1-A9 and L1 I’ll never let them go. It’s one of the first things employers ask for.
If nothing else, do it for yourself. Show some pride for what you do!
Absolutely
Agreed 100%
Important...if you want to have an employer. Or, you could build your own customer base and give yourself a massive pay raise. I've had one customer in six years ask me about certification. Imho, agreed, do it for yourself. it's good to put yourself through the study and process, which forces you to learn things that you don't necessarily use everyday, but may come in handy. Or if simply you like knowing stuff.
How about for DIY people that want the expertise of a ASE Certification? I love working on my car, have a couple of thousand dollars worth of automotive tools and I would love to gain the technical expertise of an ASE Certified technicians. Test look relatively cheap and I doubt it has the complexity of a 3 level CFA certification which I have taken before. Thoughts?
@@staypositive4358 ASE certification requires a minimum of 2 years on the job experience, your employer has to sign off on it.
My ases has gotten me in so many doors I'm not a master yet I got about 4 of them usually the people that cry about ase is because they can't pass the test
Some shops specifically only look for those who are certified(where i live, every shop has to employ at least one master tech in order to operate). It also gives you hint as to the quality you might expect from that shop. I believe certs get your foot in the door, and your experience takes it from there.
Do you live in Florida? Where I live L1 techs are what everybody wants because we can write state emmision waivers.
@@derekdlick2516 The National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence is an, "independent" non-profit organization. Independent organizations can't be mandated by law and neither can their certifications. That would render them no longer independent if the government mandated them. If the government required them by law, then that would be government promotion of that particular organization. What about people in the automotive industry that are certified or trained by auto makers? Do they are also need ASE certification? That makes no sense. Some type of certification is required to service air conditioning though.
I became a Master Tech in 1987. I’ve studied and kept up with all the changes in technology along the way so I believe it not only signifies my commitment to the industry but to the ongoing training necessary to repair todays vehicles. I embrace the new developments and find some of the stuff coming in the future to be exciting.
Pauly D is an ASE employee...gotta be. He's been radicalized. Wrote that reply with a blank, distant stare, and a monotone.
@Sharrod C Pierson bet he could build one
We are only going to hire ASE Techs from now on. If you dont have them, in our shop, you are considered an apprentice. Huge difference in attitude, right from step one. I get paid for every passed test. If they dont license us, then we have to be accountable to ourselves and those tests are the best way.....right now. Hold that quality line for our trade and be proud of it! Thank you Mike.
I think that's a good policy
Absolutely worth it! I consider it an investment in myself for the long run, no diffrent that investing in quality tools.
It's good for business. It's especially good for independent shops that become ASE certified.
First two questions I ask when hiring a guy are 1 Are you ASE Certified and 2 What kinda of tool box and tools do you have. So many guys say they have a nice box and tools and have shown up with a roll cart and not enough tools to do the job. ASE definitely helps but tools show a lot also. Have a great week.
Hey what tools would you absolutely say you need?
Yes, it is worth it.
I have been certified since 1975 when ASE was then known as the "National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence" (NIASE) and currently have earned and hold Master Automotive and Master Medium-Heavy Truck in addition to C1, F1, L1, L2, L3 and was M1, M2, M3 certified.
It has been more than worth the time, effort and expense for the ASE certifications in numerous ways.
My ASE certifications have value and have helped open doors of opportunity for employment, remaining employed, employment promotions, pay increases, attracting clientele, retaining clientele, securing service contracts, building confidence, attracting and securing business opportunities, attracting and securing business partners, securing financing, and in winning court cases.
You are 100% correct. My job pays for the tests when you pass them and for every ASE you obtain, you usually get a raise. ASE shows your employer you are committed and you are willing to take the time outside of work to better yourself.
Great points, I’ve heard it all about how “they just hand those things out” or “it won’t make a difference in your pay” and this and that but truthfully it really does help in the long run. Most places require them to even be considered. Getting certified really opens up more opportunity for better places to work.
Very fair, and direct. Some places like you had mentioned don't pay more for them. But it does show that you are dedicated to that field of work. And I'm studying to do just that for my own accomplishment.
Thanks for this video. I’ve been debating on going to school for it however I’ve been a mechanic for 12+ years in the military.
Got mine on Ebay, $3.95 free shipping.
The patch does not hold any knowledge.
If you iron that patch on your car. You'll get 50 hp and it will fix it's self.
Yes, but can you fix a sandwich sir?
YES, in my opinion,it’s definitely worth it.
It might make the difference between you getting a job or not. In this day and age you need to prove that you have taken the time to test and care about your profession.
I received my 25 year ASE toolbox magnet a number of years back. (Yes I’m old)
My first patches were orange with gears on them.
I have been listening to your videos for a while. I would be really surprised if you had any trouble passing the L1 test.
I took L1 the first time in 1994 when it first came out. It has gotten much more advanced every 5 years when I take the recertifications. Isn’t that the idea? Keep up on technology.
Keep up the great videos!
Great video thanks brother. This has been a very interesting subject. I think I have heard both sides of this subject. I was out of school then didn't need it. I have a buddy who I think has everyone you can get. Depending on your situation. Keep up the great work see you in the next video thanks again brother
Having ASE’s look good when applying for a job and some places compensate for having ASE’s. Overall the most important thing is having experience. An ASE patch doesn’t mean much if you lack experience.
Hello sir, my son is ASE certified, it's helped him make more money, he's been offered more money by other dealer's. Then given a raise to stay. He is a parts guy
You've hit the nail on the head! I've been in shops that don't give a rats butt about ASEs, they just give you 30days to put your tools where your mouth is. On the flip side, the shop I'm at now, wouldn't hire me until I had ALL ASE Master credentials current (a couple had slipped and didn't realize it). I like to keep them current anyway just for my own self pride!
Lets be real , the patch is really cool looking , lol ....I have kept up my cert for so long I can't remember....
Spot on, brother. Just got my master cert and will continue on with l1 and hybrid. I even picked up some good tips during the studying that I never know about! I really did think the tests were difficult! I did better on the engine performance and electrical than I did on brakes and chassis being a student of scanner danners channel.
Scanner Danner rocks. Bought his book and have some studying to do.
where did you go for study material ?
100% worth it. It may not REALLY matter with regards to your skills as a mechanic but it makes a big difference when you present yourself to customers and employers. Plus, my dealership reimburses techs for the cost so there is no reason not to. It's the same as any other industry, they all have their own certifications.
Im ASE certified in 5 areas working on my last 3 for master. I disagree with you when you say "it doesn't prove anything with your abilitys as a technician". Matter of fact I would argue the opposite. Theres alot of guys who can flag hrs but dont understand how the systems they are working on function. They're called part eplacers. They dont know how perform hardly any diagnosis either. ASE test you on your ability to properly repair vehicles to standard, how the systems work, and how to diagnose them correctly. Now does it prove you have a ton of hands on experience? Not nessesrialy, but it does prove your competence and that you are capable of performing the nessary repairs needed for whatever issue and vehicle you are working on.
The more credentials hanging on the wall the more customer confidence there is in the techs ability. The first thing i was asked in my last job interview was are you ASE Master Certified and L1? I said yes. The next question was when can you start? All the other techs were Master Techs as well.
You got to put it on PAPER in black & white. Like all Certifications it shows you put in effort and continue your education. The day you stop learning, you ain't turning anything (well maybe burgers)...
The l1 is something you should get. It shows that you can comprehend modern ECM,PCM systems and diagrams The new composite vehicle book came out in 2015 or 16. If your a diagnostician it’s a must.
The l1 isn’t about being a good test taker. It’s about understanding systems and diagrams. And how the systems work.
I think you’re right. Doesn’t mean you have the talent to go with it. But it does mean you are committed to learning and staying current in our field. Hvac, electricians, plumbers and others have to be licensed to work. Why not us? Just because you have a tool set doesn’t mean you should be repairing vehicles. Someone could be killed. But I’m glad we have something such as ASE. I go back to the NIASE days and was happy to participate.
You may be right it depends on where you work. I'll take experience over any certification any day.
As long as I'm in the automotive industry I'll keep my certs up. I have A1-A9 L1 X1 G1 C1 and working on more. Why not it doesn't hurt to have them. The cost is not much compared to what we sometimes waste money on. Some shops care some don't in the end my career is mine not theirs.
Absolutely what I was taught in tech school many years ago. However I believe it is falling off because they now allow you to recertify after six months of expiration instead of having to retest like they used too.
Well said sir. I’m a master/L1 and I think it’s worth it.
I know it’s an old video, but here’s my take. I started my career on school buses. The company gave a bonus for ASE certification, so I took the tests and became a Master School Bus Technician. I now work on trucks. My company gives a bonus, so I took the tests and became a Master Truck Technician. If your company pays for the tests and gives a bonus if you pass, and you won’t take the tests, it means you’re lazy. Those same guys that won’t take them are the ones constantly complaining about their pay, but they do the bare minimum
I have to agree Mike I've been ase certified since I started in the industry back in 02 now I have master l1. But I've done it for me my old boss didn't appreciate them but my new boss does 😊
General Motors still requires them in order to go master for the brand. Chrysler as well.
I started going for mine this year, and am really glad I did.
Worth it. Im double master (car/truck) L1&L2 with additional transit bus certs. My bosses know the ASE certs are valued by employers. Your employer will treat you much better knowing you would easily have a new job before you get home if they mistreat you.
I watched this after failing brakes but I have 5 ase certs. Yes it matters and I agree with you. I won’t give up!!!!!!
Definitely worth it, I think most shops around me require some level of ASE certification just to be considered for employment. I do know of some really good mechanics that aren't ASE certified, but only because they don't test well. Great video and thanks for sharing
I agree with what you are saying about the ASE standard as I come from the marine world. As a shop foreman (engine maker cert is what i mostly look for) but it is still funny the way you put it, I just interviewed a Yamaha 5 star tech last week and he struggled to change a flat tire on a boat trailer. So im happy I did not ask him to make me a BLT!!!!
Great vid Mike. Lets look at it this way...... if these individuals who do not support this type of education think it is so easy and meaningless why not get the training and take the exam? Its so easy right? Just think what IT DOES say if you fail it!
I'm a little late but I still want to put my 2 cents in. I like to tell people before you bash ASE, go take and pass L1 the first time, without studying. If you cant pass their top test, you really cant talk down to it in my opinion.
I definitely wouldn't be able to get it first time without studying.
Although several weeks of studying, I can definitely get it.
I'm shooting for that test after I get all my other certs
Excellent video mike. Keep them coming.
It's definitely worth it a 💯 percent ! Why not differentiate yourself from other Technicians in the field. It's all that we really have to prove we know what we say we know.
Proud to say i am an ASE certified master tech.
Facts! I just wish I started earlier.. I’m in the process of I-Car refinishing cert, but I’m also studying for ASE collision/refinish cert test.
40 years in the automotive business (gas, diesel, lng/cng) I know plumbers that can pass an ase test. but it takes years as an apprentice to become a "journeyman plumber". the tech schools just turn out people who can pass a test. we put some students to work banging knuckles and a lot of them rethink their choice of profession.
thanks for this. i’ve been working on cars personally for 5 years, but i feel my current resume wouldn’t work in the industry (im a caregiver for special needs). im not getting younger and i’ve always enjoyed working with my hands. starting with ASE passing results on a resume i think would better help my chances in transitioning careers.
You are right, besides the feeling of accomplishment, it's a bargaining chip when looking for a job or a raise. It's also a feather in the cap of the shop owner who can advertise they employ certified Technicians. In some states, such as Hawaii, it's part of the state mandated licensing process that you must have to work as a Technician in the state. Good job Flat Rate Master, you are a sensible dude. Everybody is a critic about something or other.
Absolutely YES , if you do more then tire tech/lube tech then yes.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences
Yes I agree with you whether it’s ASE certification or a college degree it shows you have the drive to see things to the end
I have had so many job offers because of my master ase. Was relocating 1 time put ad in paper and got 12 offers 1 afternoon. The place i work now pays a dollar an hour for each certification. Plus they pay time for testing plus tests
My goal is to get ase master. Yes most dealers dont care while others require it to be certified in different specialists areas up to gm master, nissan master and so on. As a former kia tech no we were not required to get certified in conjunction with thier training but they encouraged the techs to have them. It all depends on who you work for.
I have done the UK equivalent, the IMI Master Technician accreditation, been a master for over 8 years, for me it was a personal choice to prove to myself I can call myself a Master Technician. Would recommend any tech to get accredited.
Need the L1 to be emissions repair certified in CT plus bonuses where i work so it was worth getting them all and the L1
I am an ASE CERTIFIED Technician and an Expert in my Brand.( I work for a Dealership) I approve this Vid! Thanks for this!!!
Sorry FRM being late to the video. Strong valid points. I would do ASE certifications but the one thing employers never look twice at or even question are my UA-cam certified patches and plaques. All kidding aside, you do make this industry a difference. I feel that the ASE certs. shows that you actually give a fuck torquing bolts to the specifications required and all procedures start to finish actually get done. Shows a sign of trust between customer and tech if you know what I'm getting at. Anyways sorry for the rant... keep up the good work FRM!
Worth it 100%! It helped me leaps and bounds as a technician. It does show a big commitment to employers and customers. I am ASE certified master tech since September 2018 and my doors for high paying jobs have opened up tremendously since then. Wear the patch with pride but back it up with you skills, knowledge, and experience.
This is a question for the community and great video by the way!! Question- Can I get my ASE certifications before applying for a technician job? I used to work at Sears years ago but now want to get certified to have credentials and for pride reasons. Thanks in advance everyone 👍🏾💯
Ase is definitely worth it. I had a lot of trouble getting my 3 it took many years to get them do to being absolutely horrible at test taking. One thing that sucked was watching people I trained pass when I kept failing. In the end I had to take a couple of college prep classes not related to the automotive field to gain the necessary skills to pass a test before I could pass an ase some people just have a hard time with tests but it isn't a not to try every 6 months or so till you get it
I can't wait to start getting mine. My old job told us all that we didn't need them. When I started interviewing for a new job that was always asked during the interview if I was certified. It sucked having to explain why I didn't have any at all. Now im trying to study for my first one
Great points!
I plan on getting recertified and getting my master status in automotive and heavy truck. I will probably take other ase tests. But I plan on doing it as a personal accomplishment.
Thanks I’m going to do it !
I defiantly agree. I have seen so many ASE " master technicians" that couldn't change a lightbulb. personally haven't re certified my ASE for a couple years now but only cause I paid and set up my tests then broke my hand really bad and couldn't take the test and they refused to give a rain check or refund or anything. Hundreds of dollars out of pocket gone. I am going so sighn up again real soon just hate having to pay twice.
My job pays you back for passed ASE and pays an extra $4.50 an hr for master ASE. Totally worth it
$9k extra/yr? Bail and build your own customer base. Make $50k extra.
I love repairing vehicles, but i'm not doing it for a living. I'm doing it to help people out and help myself out financially by doing my own work I would love to do it as a regular job, but no one would hire me without that certification. Recently, I was thinking about going back into it, but I feel it's too late at the age of 48 to get my certification... I do other things for a living now but it's nothing that I love... I love repairing cars do you think it's worth it for me to go for it and study?
I agree FRM. Seen both sides. Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it pretty much.
Depends on where you work. My personal experience it didn't matter. I was Ase certified and when I walked in for the interview with my resume and all my aftermarket classes that I had taken. I was told straight out it doesn't matter. That was at a ford dealer mind you. So I worked there for about six months first month making a killing. Well guy's starting bitching and crying about my hours and I was making 10.00 hour with 2.00 a hour for every tech hour I turned. They cried. Well I got my paycheck one week and it was half of what it's suppose to be. I said something to my boss and he told me your not a master tech you should be lucky to have a job. Well I quit with a customer's car torn apart. I had my trailer hooked to my truck. I backed into my bay and loaded my box and cart. I made a phone call to a truck shop when I was leaving the dealer and I was hired over the phone starting at better money with a guarantee. Now I work on cars for fun and I work on fire trucks and dump trucks for a living. It all depends on where you work.
I had a very similar experience with a Ford dealership. And they wonder why they are short 10+ techs. I left and went elsewhere where my certs are sought after and appreciated and making a lot more money.
That L1 ain’t no joke. But your a smart guy you’ll be fine
It's the final frontier for me.. but I'm a smart-ass, so I'll be fine.. right?
Fuck yes get all your ase. Especially if it's going be your career. Goo all the way. It's cool to look back on when you are old and the best part is you are learning.
I'm actually starting at a new shop in 2 weeks that pays you $1/hr more for every ASE you get. I'm leaving from a dealership that really doesn't even want to send their people off to the manufacturer training. I'm a senior tech for this manufacturer and have taken all my only courses to be master, but have been waiting over 2 years for them to send me to the instructor lead training to be master, I'm 3rd highest paid in this shop and still can't pay my bills. My shop offered me less to stay than the independent shop did starting out with no ASE certs. I feel that ASE certs can be an important tool. I'm a little nervous going to this shop as it moves me from flat rate back down to hourly, but all of their techs are hourly, they've been around 30 years, 19 bay shop, 150 cars a day, and have a 4.9 google review. So we'll see how it goes. But great video as always!
I've never worked anywhere willing to pay for them, so I don't bother with it. My current boss was more worried about me being able to fix a car than a piece of paper in a frame. If they'd pay me for em? I'd be taking the tests tomorrow.
Imma try to jump in the field 💪🏽
I think its really only helpful for lawsuits. Thats why dealerships and manufacturers are now asking for them.
Lemon law has caused a lot of frivolous lawsuits. Judges/jurors like credentials when you make your case.
I have 12 ASE certifications. I've been master certified for 18 years now. I just recertified again. I think it is worth it. Back in 2001 right after I got my ASE's my pay almost doubled.
I've been considering going for ASE, but I looked on the website and it shows there are no test centers in Canada 🤔. There are licenses to be an auto Tech here but I'd like to further Myself. You can never learn too much.
Im going to school to be a auto tech and ASE is what I’m striving for ........ and won’t settle for less .....
You will settle for an oil change soon.
ya 4 years of schooling and ase's cant get you a job you need experience
scott21992 that’s why I stay turning wrenches on a daily basis to get as much experience under my belt so I can be confident to tackle any job 👍
tiberianexcalibur I kinda stay away from oil changes cause I started off as a lube tech at a mobile 1 shop so I got over a thousand oil changes under my belt so I do more engine repair tasks then anything else. Unless the instructor asks me to do a oil change
Seasoned veteran auto tech here with some friendly advice.... Get out while you still can. There's no money to be made in the automotive industry. Look into the HVAC program at your school, you'll thank me later.
"couldn't fix a sandwich." I'm borrowing that one for work
ERIC O is a perfect example of someone who has no certs but is an amazing troubleshooter. But i also can see whefe they would be good to ha e
I’m a UA-cam master certified Tech
No test required
Just keep watching SMA videos
I did not keep mine up after I went to yellow iron, I would like to see the difference in the testing today.. from what they asked in 1990 just on A/C or brakes something simple..same test today how much differences is there
Recetified my A1 today, they are getting a little tougher. Still got 24 of 25. But I've been a mechanic for 14 years. Recently moved on to Commercial Trucks, keeping my a1-a8 for promotional reasons. Union Strong.
Another benefit to ase is its recognized nation wide. Factory training is good but it is only with that particular car / truck manufacturer. If you go to work for a different brand they don't recognize your achievements
I have my A6 and A8 ide like to go for the rest but it's so hard to find good resources and training for anything other than electrical and engine performance..got any suggestions on resources or channels for A1?
Thanks great video
Agree. Maybe it doesn’t matter at your current job, but it makes you more marketable when you look for your new job.
Got my first ASE. Back in the 80s and is all about the wellness and patient and knowledge and experience especially experience and is on going study each year
Agree that it shows dedication to the industry. It takes a good bit of time to go take and pass 8 test to be master certified. You can be good at taking test but if don't have some knowledge of the series of test your taking you will fail it.
I'm a Expired Master L1. i'm gonna Recert soon. I work for My Self But Customers Like It
Im an ASE Master Technician with all my ASE certifications. I also have a mechanical and electronic engineering degree. I also the play the guitar, drums, trunpet, piano, sing opera, rock, death metal, country music songs, I write poetry, books on calculus, geometry and algebra. Im also a comedian, a circus clown, a social worker, and a fan of horror movies. Im also a profesional chef with experience in Asian, Italian and Moroccan food. Im only 98 and looking forward into my future as a rocket scientist, and movie producer....
You make hell of a lot of sense to me I am getting ase
I have the exact same view on ASE’s Mike. I just need my A2 and A3 to be master.
Is there a way to study and prepare for ase tests that you would recommend?
Here in Australia we have no ASE we are either qualified mechanics or not. Unqualified guys just don’t seem to look for work in this industry I don’t know if that’s a problem or not in the US but because of that having just a standard qualification level works
Most larger shops wont hire you for anything more than quick lube if you dont have at least the G1.
What does a nearly 40 year old who’s contemplating a career shift do? I’m interested in this field to get into building race cars and working on race cars, but not very able to travel to the races with the family situation. Of course gotta start at the beginning, and yes I am pretty green. I do my own simple service work in my shop or driveway. But I’m not even calling myself a driveway mechanic as I basically just do fluids and brakes…
ASE is good, it does show commitment to the trade. It also helps keep current on the technology. I would encourage any technician to get certified