Pikmin 3 was critisised for not having enough classic enemies Pikmin 4 is critisised for not having enough original enemies Pikmin 5 is critisised for not existing
I think Pikmin 4's Puffstool deserves special mention for removing the entire reason the enemy was interesting. Without puffmin I really don't know why they put it in the game at all.
The shrillexatleg's dancing Hypnosis mechanic was probably a development stretch goal, and once whomever made it had finished it, they likely wanted to reuse it for another enemy. I'm guessing this why the puffstool's boss area was so haphazardly place.
@fittedurge4763 that's part of the challenge of the toxic puffstool, you are intended to only use white pikmin with him and have them kill and collect the bodies before he revives them....or ya know do that with just oatchie lol
Random thing but for the iridescent flint beetle "glitch" (where they attack it/ chase it) One of its piklopedia entries states that this is most likely intended as the entry reads “This creature's hypnotic reflective body is quite hard, giving it a good defense against Pikmin attacks. Why, then, do the Pikmin chase it in such a frenzy?"
Pearly clamp clam is the worst enemy brought back in pikmin 4. The fact they let you kill the clam takes away the entire gimmick of risk vs reward of how much time you spend attacking without getting greedy and losing all your pikmin. Being able to rush it also means you can essentially one shot the clam and never have to worry that it will kill anyone. The whole point was that even after death it was still a hazard so you couldn't just throw everything at it and hope for the best.
Careening Dirigibug - Oddly tanky - Infuriatingly immune to its own bombs, which is easily one of the biggest cockblocks in the whole series - Seemingly refuses to fall or even die during certain animations - Really fast to shake Pikmin off - Shrieks like an enraged chimpanzee when pressed It's not even that dangerous, heck sometimes it can be slightly helpful, but I swear they set out to make the most annoying and unsatisfying enemy possible with that thing.
they're also annoying cause they like to put 2-3 next to each other, spaced out in such a way as to where it's impossible to take out one without aggroing another
@@pikminman13 Even if you did get a bomb to go off while they're on the ground, they're surprisingly (or perhaps unsurprisingly) resilient to the blast. If I remember right it only does about a quarter to a third of their health
I really like the mockiwi. It’s no bulborb but I think it’s cute and charming in its own way. I would really like if it showed up in a mainline game sometime
The pikmin don't attack the iridescent flint beetle due to bad AI, that's the point of the enemy, that it draws your pikmin away and potentially into hazards. The ship's note says "This creature's hypnotic reflective body is quite hard, giving it a good defense against Pikmin attacks. Why, then, do the Pikmin chase it in such a frenzy?" You even nod to that a few moments later when you say that pikmin I is about time management; the flint beetle hampers your ability to effectively use time, I think in a creative way. Idk I just think it's neat.
As much as I like the Waterwraith, I am inclined to agree with you. I feel that if they didn't nerf the Waterwraith's speed and made a cave that was more adjacent to Submerged Castle rather than a straight-up remake it could've worked better. Seeing the Submerged Castle modernised was fun but there really wasn't much challenge to it tbh. I could see newcomers struggling in that cave, but that's not really a good point since they'd struggle with a lot of caves anyway.
I replay pikmin 2 yearly but personally I find the engulfed castle a lot harder than the original because you can't rely on bulbmin to deal with the hazards. Especially the sublevel 4, where I basically always lose some pikmin to that startle spore loool Falling bombs are a lot more forgiving than that frog in a corner.
@@Mirawaru You could always use Glow Pikmin in place of Bulbmin. Especially since they're arguably better since they can stun enemies and automatically grow flowers.
@@PikminAnd By the time you unlock the cave you usually don't have them unlocked yet. I usually end up doing it before having acess to them (and the poison immunity upgrade, granted that matters little)
*Okay, so, a few things:* First of all yes, the Swarming Sheargrub is kind of a garbage enemy but they should have been used in things like collect treasure challenges because then their ability to weight down treasures would truly shine. And secondly; i'll say it, pikmin 4 enemy roster is okay because it's not supposed to be "a pikmin game" it is actually *"the pikmin game"* Why else would you think they retconned the stories of the past 3 games? The game is basically the new beginning of pikmin, the pikmin renaissance, so of course they brought back like 70% of the enemy roster, with things like chrysanthemums, bulblaxes, dweevils, jellyfloats and such... Although i do wish they did more radical enemies, nobody needed muckerskate.
@@gboogie3257 At the start of the game Olimar is like "and i met strange creatures which i named Pikmin" like if this was the first time he crash-landed on the planet and also the first time he met the pikmin. That also explains why the data files olimar writes are like a first time thing and not like he's already familiarized with the planet. He doesn't know the elemental resistances and other abilities of the pikmin, he doesn't know the creatures at all and is confused about basically everything else- the treasures, the caves; everything for a guy that supposedly visited the planet thrice.
@@ZombieChicken1310 Well A: He does, because of his log descriptions on them B: Just because they re-did it doesn’t mean he forgot C: Caves are literally new to this game and aren’t the same from Pikmin 2 (engulf castle doesn’t count) D: As I said people assume Pikmin 4 is before 3, So that would mean he visited the Planet twice and then this would be the 3rd
@@ZombieChicken1310 There’s also the fact that Louie is way more antagonistic in this game due to this being his first time on the planet and Olimar not reining him in like in Pikmin 2.
@@gboogie3257 Olimar's Shipwreck Tale is Pikmin 4's retelling of Pikmin 1's events: this is when he discovers Pikmin and also Moss. It ends with Moss sneaking onto the Dolphin, and because of her leaf tail, she can't leave PNF-404 and that made Olimar crash back down on PNF-404, and him getting turned into a leafling by his own Pikmin, then the events of Pikmin 4's main story happen, as the rescue corps receives his SOS signal from when you retrieve the Interstellar Radio Some logs and dialogue even reference that the events of Pikmin 2 and 3 *have not happened* because Olimar mentions he *dreamed* about Hocotate Freight going into debt, but is relieved it was just a dream, and the castaways from Koppai mention their planet is *on the verge* of a food crisis, meaning they haven't sent their drones to scout for food on other planets yet, which is what leads to the events of Pikmin 3. I'm sorry to break it to you, but Pikmin 4 does indeed fully retcon the entire series.
I love the Pileated Snagret tbh. I like the challenge of the battle (though I will admit that it sometimes drags on for too long), but its design especially is freakishly beautiful.
Definitely agree that the man at legs is way less threatening than it sounds. Even as a little kid used to the super easy Pikmin 3, man at legs was no trouble at all. I didn’t lose a single Pikmin.
@@gboogie3257 They didn't see because it wasn't there, you just have poor reading comprehension. He is saying that despite being used to Pikmin 3, an easier game, when he DID face the man at legs he didn't lose a pikmin. At no point did he say he was playing pikmin 3 when he faced it. Pikmin 3 was mentioned for the same reason being a "little kid" was mentioned; showing a lack of skill going into the fight. Played pikmin 3, then pikmin 2, and had no trouble despite him being used to pikmin 3. Like saying "Even as a little kid used to a super warm rain forest, Germany wasn't that cold at all" does not imply that I dragged the country of Germany into a rainforest. "Even as a little kid used to the super easy Pikmin 3, man at legs was no trouble at all" does not imply he faced man at legs in Pikmin 3.
Something you didn't mention is that there _are_ some differences in the big variants of enemies. The Jumbo bulborb bites several times with a different animation, and then falls on the floor. The titan and blizzarding attack three times in a row, and the hitboxes for the attacks are bigger. The master hop also does several hops in a row before waiting again. Not sure about the sovereign bulblax
I'm so glad we share the same opinion on the pikmin 4 enemy roster Every time I saw an emperor bulblax I was so disappointed, it felt like they used it absolutely everywhere and all those instances of its appearance could of been a cool new enemy. I don't mind bringing back older enemies, but so many of them felt so overused. I was really excited to see all of the new enemies in pikmin 4 only for there to be so little :( I still love the game, I just really hope they bring in more enemy variety in the next game, and maybe add difficulty options as well.
i kind of really like swarming sheargrubs, not many enemies can be pursued outside of their typical arena and an enemy that serves to distract your pikmin while youre doing stuff is really fun to work around. its also a great test in self control, forcing you to avoid trying to kill the entire swarm as that would simply take too long. their ability to weigh down stuff your pikmin are carrying is also incredibly creative. i really wish there were more enemies like this
I like the "big enemy" idea, but I agree that they could use more to them. It should also have been solely the gimmick of Giant's Hearth. The Female Sheargrub is fine because it goes from not being able to hurt you to being able to hurt you, even though rocks aren't affected that's the case for a lot of elemental enemies. I will admit that I got a good laugh out of the big Wollywog, but at the same time there wasn't much to it. The Jumbo Bulborb was funny in that it basically has Down Syndrome according to the Piklopedia. Other than that, the size really should have made a difference. Have the Wollywog cause a small tremor which trips you when landing so you have to hop on Oatchi to dodge it or use Winged Pikmin to take it down. Have the Blowhogs have element on their butts or something to make it less of a weak spot for all Pikmin types. There's plenty to do and they just didn't do it. Given how much went into Pikmin 4 it's forgivable but at the same time we could have gotten more.
Hell, my introduction to the Jumbo Wollyhop was freezing it solid in mid‐air and watching it shatter on impact with the ground from nearly full health.
Yea I agree that the Man at Legs and Pileated Snagret didn’t need to be so tanky, that being said I definitely feel the latter should’ve returned in 4 alongside the Gatling Groink and Careening Drigibug (Which I’m surprised wasn’t part of this video) mostly because I feel we need some more snagret enemies outside of baby snagrets, I would want to see the Burrowing snarrow finally make an official appearance but not as just a grey snagret.
Summed up my problem with Pikmin 4’s roster. I loved seeing these guys come back but by the end of the game it felt like jingling keys. It really contributes to pikmin 4’s lack of identity and just makes the game feel like Pikmin 2 Returns or some shit. At the very least it’s cool to have all these enemies in one game for rom hacks I guess, if you want a silver lining.
It’s not just the enemies, I love the game but up until around the post game it feels too much like a retread of old ideas. It’s like they mashed Pikmin 2 and 3 together which is a shame. Pikmin 4 is at its best when it’s doing new idea but I feel like it genuinely has an identity problem along with a difficulty imbalance.
Honestly the thing that hurts most about Pikmin 4's roster is the fact that what little we have that is unique is absolutely amazing. My two favorite bosses in the entire game are both completely new to the series, those being Disco Long Legs and the Snowflake Fluttertail. Especially the Snowflake Fluttertail. Most people give Disco Long Legs the love it definitely deserves, but honestly Snowflake Fluttertail has to take the spot as the coolest boss fight in the entire game. (Other than maybe the Ancient Sirehound)
The worst part about _Pikmin 4_ and its enemy roster is how underbaked the ice element is. Aside from a one-time boss enemy, every ice enemy is a variation on some other. We have three different ice-type Blowhogs, an ice-type Bulborb _and_ Dwarf Bulborb, an ice-type Dweevil, an ice-type Wollyhop... it's really disappointing.
10:07 you know what's ironic about the Armurk? It has one of the best boss themes in the Pikmin series, weird for such a mid boss 😭 Like the theme goes harder than the actual fight
When I played the engulfed castle for the first time, i was more scared by the toxic variant of the flower (I forgot the name) than the waterwraith and timer.
id like to say for pikmin 4 i had 70 blue pikmin in the waterwraith cave you mentioned i lost 66 pikmin not because of the waterwraith he didnt kill a single one they all died to self bombing enemies because of that i couldnt even finish the cave because i didnt have enough purples to bring down the bag they have
I do like a couple of the pikmin 4 alternate variants, it shows how species adapt to different environments, like the skeeterskate and muckerskate. But then others are like... why. For example the icy blowhog, as stated in the video the puffy blowhog's whole thing is that it traded fire for gas, allowing it to fly, so then why is there a version of the puffy blowhog but ice, at that point it should walk again. If I could redesign it I would firstly remove the back spikes so it's less like the puffy variant, and then I would little exhausts on the bottom of it's body or something, and the reason for that is that this icy blowhog uses the cold air it creates to make it's own air currents allowing it to fly. I also kinda like the different sizes, especially with the bulblaxes, I like that there is a difference between emperor and sovereign, because that is how some animals behave irl. You have the sovereign who is the boss, only he is allowed to mate with the emperesses, but then you have emperors who are competition and probably fight the current sovereign for power, if the sovereign wins he stays in power and shows what happens when you mess with him, if the emperor wins the sovereign gets dethroned and the empereor becomes the new sovereign (this is all just headcanon btw). But then you have stuff like the giant fiery blowhog which is just a normal fiery blowhog but beeg.
I had to subscribe. And its not because I love pikmin or bc your videos are hilarious or this could be one of the best content on UA-cam. But because i dont want the swarming sheergrub in P5
I think 4 still does have some cool enemies, both design wise and gameplay wise, despite there being a bit too much reliance of the older casts and recolored/resized enemies Crusted Rumpup and Porquillion are pretty fun and I think the Porquillion had a fun platform usage, and the Foolix was honestly my ideal way of using an old enemy idea while subverting how it plays and works
I agree that Pikmin 4’s alternate enemy variants could use more to differentiate their designs. I do like that the extra big bulborb looking the same is cool though because it catches you off guard with its rampage attack.
the new bulborb variants of pikmin 4 just look like a bunch of map and hazard assets pasted on top of palette swaps. things like the fiery bulblax as an elemental equivalent being included in that game make these stand out all the more
I always wished that those forgotten and scrapped enemies were used in the Pikmin games because it would've made it better, especially those guys that need the berries to be lured out.
After all these years I thought the iridescent flint beetle getting automatically attacked by passing pikmin was an intentional mechanic, like its shiny shell activates the pikmin's ape brain and they go apeshit, but now i just feel silly 😭
Swarming Sheargrubs only defining trait to me is that it appears on that one varient of Jigsaw Fortress and they make for good pikmin food near the start of the round, but even then thats so situational that its not even worth then existing
I think one of pikmin 2’s worst enemies is the cannon beetle larvae, they are way too common and the boulders follow you for some reason, like they will actively track you down instead of slight homing. Their boulders instakill pikmin so your best bet is to use bitter spray or hope to get a stun using purples to avoid them shaking pikmin into the abyss. It’s like the best strategy is to cheese them or have a really long drawn out fight to avoid mass losses and with how some floors have so many it gets annoying pretty quick. I think if they could be stunned like the armoured cannon beetle when a pikmin is thrown in it’s blowhole it would make more sense and give more strategy to defeat them, maybe I just suck at pikmin 2 tho
Bro I’ve been watching your videos from the beginning and somehow I think I’ve never commented. I love your sense of humor 😂 you always come up with unexpected endings to sentences.
Oh good I’m not the only one who was annoyed by trying to find the red spectrilid in 3. It bugged me so much when I saw I missing exactly one entry and had to go look it up
When playing the games, I often wonder how i would approach some kind of challenge mode where all the enemies and bosses have 10x health. Given how you can cheese a lot of enimies in pikmin, especially in 3 and super especially in 4, i often find myself wishing they were more of a challenge. I particularly envision myself throwing a couple red pikmin at the firey blowhogs and let them chip away at them while i go do other things.
One annoying thing about the Swarming Sheargrub that you didn't talk about in the video is that it scares captains despite them being completely harmless. Like I'll just be playing the game and then I hear Charlie going "Cripes, this is bad!" and then I check up on him just to see those boogers and nothing else.
Personally I liked that 4 largely had several returning enemies over new ones, However what I dislike was what a lazy cop out all the Giant enemies were. Every single one has almost nothing unique about them (except sovereign bulblax, shout out sovereign) and reeks of lazy design every time I look at them. It’s like the devs thought “Ok so we have this enemy. But what if it was BIGGER? Cool, new enemy! Ok, I’m leaving early night guys” And there’s SO MANY of them too! If you replaced all the generic boring giant enemies with new ones with unique designs I’m sure everyone who was upset pikmin 4 didn’t have many new enemies would’ve been happy
meanwhile im here poppin' off and so thrilled that the water wraith returned haha what does bother me is that the preview image ruins the surprise, now thats just blame stupid right there
The Swarmers definitely affected my playthroughs of 3 Albeit not because they weighed things down, but rather because they constantly move across the map they'd keep attracting idle pikmin and then the mins would run into other enemies or the water and get themselves killed offscreen
technically the watery blowhog and shearwig dont appear in 3 at all! Remembrer everything in the formidable oak is a construct made by the plasm wraith to stop you from rescuing olimar.
I think Man-at-Legs has a reasonable amount of health. It's active for a while before shaking your pikmin off, so you have time to get decent damage in, and I usually beat it in 3 or 4 cycles. Pileated Snagret though, runs away the moment a pikmin touches it, and deathless runs can take a dozen cycles of rolling dice for it's head to get stuck in the ground. I can see Man-at-Legs being a boring fight once you're used to it, but it's no where near as tedious as the snagret. My personal least favorite enemy in Pikmin is the Shaggy Longlegs, but that's the only disagreement I have.
Its strange that i keep hearing about the clipping problem in videos because it hasnt happened to me. Probably cuz i tend to throw pikmin and kite the enemy near by while they do damage. Its often not safe to swarm into a battle so i dont do it much
I actually disagree partially with the water wraith, when I first entered the sublevel I didn't expect him to return at all and the music slowly fading into the submerges castle theme actually gave me the creeps. That and the realisation of the name + pikmin I am carrying made me be super anxious and hyped for our boi. I agree he was a lot easier to avoid and play around. But most of Pikmin 4 has been made easier, so I think this makes sense. Personally I don't mind it at all, seeing as the real challenge are somewhat the dandori medals in that game (coming from someone who played pikmin 1-3 again before playing 4 for the first time last week)
Okay well, the engulfed castle and waterwraith aren’t as hard as people say, hell even when I first played it in pikmin 2 I still got through it, even losing 55 Pikmin Honestly I think people that Pikmin 2’s hard difficulty factor (which the game isn’t even that hard anyway) and use to review future games or even Pikmin 1
Personally I always use reds instead of purples when playing 2 and that Pileated Snagret felt like it was not taking nearly the amount of damage it should have, normally I only have to do 3 or 4 cycles of it before it's dead similar story with Man-at-Legs
Since I was thinking about playing pikmin 2, but I don't have a gamecube, (I know they're on the switch), does the wii version of pikmin 2 have the same glitch and sound effect problems as pikmin 1's wii version? For someone used to 4 and 3 deluxe, is it better to play pikmin 2 on the wii or on the switch?
Idk if it’s just me but on my first try I tried to 100% engulfed castle in Pikmin 4 and I lost all my Pikmin and was scarred for the rest of the cave. I got through as fast as I could so I didn’t have to see it again, I guess it’s because I’m a new Pikmin player but still I was horrified and I just spammed purples at it at the final fight.
I'm surprised that the Wolpole didn't make the list at all. The most memorable thing about the Wolpole is seeing them fall from the sky in the first floor of the Shower Room because you drained the water before entering the cave. Otherwise it's completely there for atmosphere with very little substance
Pikmin 3 was critisised for not having enough classic enemies
Pikmin 4 is critisised for not having enough original enemies
Pikmin 5 is critisised for not existing
pikmin 3 and 4 are also way too easy
@@notwell3605 can't wait for this to be trend
@@volvoman5262 really wish for a hard mode for 4
@@notwell3605 you say the same aboud every modern nintendo game lol
@@volvoman5262 fair
I think Pikmin 4's Puffstool deserves special mention for removing the entire reason the enemy was interesting. Without puffmin I really don't know why they put it in the game at all.
also dont forget that it is now also entirely non-lethal
one of the original enemies even does basically the exact same thing but can actually kill pikmin
The shrillexatleg's dancing Hypnosis mechanic was probably a development stretch goal, and once whomever made it had finished it, they likely wanted to reuse it for another enemy. I'm guessing this why the puffstool's boss area was so haphazardly place.
Not to mention it's poison counterpart in a cave for king that is VERY ANNOYING since it can revive fungus enemies and spread the stick stuff
@fittedurge4763 that's part of the challenge of the toxic puffstool, you are intended to only use white pikmin with him and have them kill and collect the bodies before he revives them....or ya know do that with just oatchie lol
You forgot Pikmin 4's worst enemy: Evil Fiddlebert.
We don't speak of him
Wouldn't an Evil version of Fiddlebert be a pretty good guy?
@@justsomewheel9379true. That would be a double negative
Someone that understands
That’s a weird way to spell Collin
Random thing but for the iridescent flint beetle "glitch" (where they attack it/ chase it) One of its piklopedia entries states that this is most likely intended as the entry reads “This creature's hypnotic reflective body is quite hard, giving it a good defense against Pikmin attacks. Why, then, do the Pikmin chase it in such a frenzy?"
Yeah I thought I'd remembered reading that, makes no sense if they really did "fix" that
my dad sprays a hose in my face every time i get hit by the watery blowhog to make the game wetter
My dad did that but with the fiery blowhog. I miss my skin.
@@Wario-The-LegendMy condolences, I hope you reincarnate as yourself but red
The singular blue Pikmin watching all his friends get demolished by a yellow wallywog (olimar needs his massage machine)
Pearly clamp clam is the worst enemy brought back in pikmin 4. The fact they let you kill the clam takes away the entire gimmick of risk vs reward of how much time you spend attacking without getting greedy and losing all your pikmin. Being able to rush it also means you can essentially one shot the clam and never have to worry that it will kill anyone. The whole point was that even after death it was still a hazard so you couldn't just throw everything at it and hope for the best.
Careening Dirigibug
- Oddly tanky
- Infuriatingly immune to its own bombs, which is easily one of the biggest cockblocks in the whole series
- Seemingly refuses to fall or even die during certain animations
- Really fast to shake Pikmin off
- Shrieks like an enraged chimpanzee when pressed
It's not even that dangerous, heck sometimes it can be slightly helpful, but I swear they set out to make the most annoying and unsatisfying enemy possible with that thing.
they're also annoying cause they like to put 2-3 next to each other, spaced out in such a way as to where it's impossible to take out one without aggroing another
It’s not actually totally immune to its bombs, it’s only immune when it’s not in its helpless state, which is tricky to hit it in.
@@pikminman13 Even if you did get a bomb to go off while they're on the ground, they're surprisingly (or perhaps unsurprisingly) resilient to the blast. If I remember right it only does about a quarter to a third of their health
And if you kill it while it's carrying a bomb, it also drops the bomb. Imagine if Creepers in Minecraft still exploded even if you killed them, damn.
I really like the mockiwi. It’s no bulborb but I think it’s cute and charming in its own way. I would really like if it showed up in a mainline game sometime
The pikmin don't attack the iridescent flint beetle due to bad AI, that's the point of the enemy, that it draws your pikmin away and potentially into hazards. The ship's note says "This creature's hypnotic reflective body is quite hard, giving it a good defense against Pikmin attacks. Why, then, do the Pikmin chase it in such a frenzy?"
You even nod to that a few moments later when you say that pikmin I is about time management; the flint beetle hampers your ability to effectively use time, I think in a creative way. Idk I just think it's neat.
As much as I like the Waterwraith, I am inclined to agree with you.
I feel that if they didn't nerf the Waterwraith's speed and made a cave that was more adjacent to Submerged Castle rather than a straight-up remake it could've worked better.
Seeing the Submerged Castle modernised was fun but there really wasn't much challenge to it tbh.
I could see newcomers struggling in that cave, but that's not really a good point since they'd struggle with a lot of caves anyway.
I replay pikmin 2 yearly but personally I find the engulfed castle a lot harder than the original because you can't rely on bulbmin to deal with the hazards.
Especially the sublevel 4, where I basically always lose some pikmin to that startle spore loool
Falling bombs are a lot more forgiving than that frog in a corner.
@@Mirawaru You could always use Glow Pikmin in place of Bulbmin. Especially since they're arguably better since they can stun enemies and automatically grow flowers.
@@PikminAnd
By the time you unlock the cave you usually don't have them unlocked yet.
I usually end up doing it before having acess to them (and the poison immunity upgrade, granted that matters little)
@@Mirawaru ok as someone who defenses modern games difficulty, engulfed castle was really easy since oatchi is broken
Submerged and Engulfed are both easy
2 imonlyhereforpikmin videos within the same week, unheard of
He has to make up for a month of inactivity, or well, of work
*Okay, so, a few things:*
First of all yes, the Swarming Sheargrub is kind of a garbage enemy but they should have been used in things like collect treasure challenges because then their ability to weight down treasures would truly shine.
And secondly; i'll say it, pikmin 4 enemy roster is okay because it's not supposed to be "a pikmin game" it is actually *"the pikmin game"*
Why else would you think they retconned the stories of the past 3 games? The game is basically the new beginning of pikmin, the pikmin renaissance, so of course they brought back like 70% of the enemy roster, with things like chrysanthemums, bulblaxes, dweevils, jellyfloats and such... Although i do wish they did more radical enemies, nobody needed muckerskate.
@@gboogie3257 At the start of the game Olimar is like "and i met strange creatures which i named Pikmin" like if this was the first time he crash-landed on the planet and also the first time he met the pikmin. That also explains why the data files olimar writes are like a first time thing and not like he's already familiarized with the planet.
He doesn't know the elemental resistances and other abilities of the pikmin, he doesn't know the creatures at all and is confused about basically everything else- the treasures, the caves; everything for a guy that supposedly visited the planet thrice.
@@ZombieChicken1310 Well
A: He does, because of his log descriptions on them
B: Just because they re-did it doesn’t mean he forgot
C: Caves are literally new to this game and aren’t the same from Pikmin 2 (engulf castle doesn’t count)
D: As I said people assume Pikmin 4 is before 3, So that would mean he visited the Planet twice and then this would be the 3rd
@@ZombieChicken1310 There’s also the fact that Louie is way more antagonistic in this game due to this being his first time on the planet and Olimar not reining him in like in Pikmin 2.
@@gboogie3257 Olimar's Shipwreck Tale is Pikmin 4's retelling of Pikmin 1's events: this is when he discovers Pikmin and also Moss.
It ends with Moss sneaking onto the Dolphin, and because of her leaf tail, she can't leave PNF-404 and that made Olimar crash back down on PNF-404, and him getting turned into a leafling by his own Pikmin, then the events of Pikmin 4's main story happen, as the rescue corps receives his SOS signal from when you retrieve the Interstellar Radio
Some logs and dialogue even reference that the events of Pikmin 2 and 3 *have not happened* because Olimar mentions he *dreamed* about Hocotate Freight going into debt, but is relieved it was just a dream, and the castaways from Koppai mention their planet is *on the verge* of a food crisis, meaning they haven't sent their drones to scout for food on other planets yet, which is what leads to the events of Pikmin 3.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but Pikmin 4 does indeed fully retcon the entire series.
@@fabby2998 maybe it’s because I don’t care as much as fans do, I just play Pikmin to play Pikmin
Not for some timeline bs, I don’t see it as that tbh
I love the Pileated Snagret tbh.
I like the challenge of the battle (though I will admit that it sometimes drags on for too long), but its design especially is freakishly beautiful.
“Favorite spin off by a long shot”
YES! MORE PIKMIN ADVENTURE LOVE!
F*ck Monochromic Pinchipede
Not touching plants in Pikmin 2 is a skill issue
A while ago the Pikmin subreddit had an enemy elimination tournament, and I voted out the Swarming Sheargrub by saying everyone forgot about it
Definitely agree that the man at legs is way less threatening than it sounds. Even as a little kid used to the super easy Pikmin 3, man at legs was no trouble at all. I didn’t lose a single Pikmin.
@@gboogie3257 was 11 years Ago
@@gboogie3257 They didn't see because it wasn't there, you just have poor reading comprehension. He is saying that despite being used to Pikmin 3, an easier game, when he DID face the man at legs he didn't lose a pikmin. At no point did he say he was playing pikmin 3 when he faced it. Pikmin 3 was mentioned for the same reason being a "little kid" was mentioned; showing a lack of skill going into the fight. Played pikmin 3, then pikmin 2, and had no trouble despite him being used to pikmin 3.
Like saying "Even as a little kid used to a super warm rain forest, Germany wasn't that cold at all" does not imply that I dragged the country of Germany into a rainforest. "Even as a little kid used to the super easy Pikmin 3, man at legs was no trouble at all" does not imply he faced man at legs in Pikmin 3.
@@maromania7 okay okay jeez I get it, no need to go hard on me I know I’m bad at reading
Something you didn't mention is that there _are_ some differences in the big variants of enemies.
The Jumbo bulborb bites several times with a different animation, and then falls on the floor.
The titan and blizzarding attack three times in a row, and the hitboxes for the attacks are bigger.
The master hop also does several hops in a row before waiting again.
Not sure about the sovereign bulblax
sovereign bulblax has the classic emperor jump attack
Edit: how do I have more likes then photonic083?
I also think the titan blowhogs have a stronger knock back with their breaths.
@@j.k.4479 they even knock back red's
@@volvoman5262 it's supposed to be photonic0, although youtube made it photonic083 for some reason
I'm so glad we share the same opinion on the pikmin 4 enemy roster
Every time I saw an emperor bulblax I was so disappointed, it felt like they used it absolutely everywhere and all those instances of its appearance could of been a cool new enemy.
I don't mind bringing back older enemies, but so many of them felt so overused. I was really excited to see all of the new enemies in pikmin 4 only for there to be so little :(
I still love the game, I just really hope they bring in more enemy variety in the next game, and maybe add difficulty options as well.
This thing was only used in like three stages but it left me having flashbacks everytime I see a png of it
@@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 it honestly felt like way more than that, though its not too shocking that it was only used a couple times
@@Cheesepuffet i still hear their cries
@@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 me too 😭
I like the auto-attacking the flint beetle. It makes me feel immersed the way the pikmin instinctively know there are treasures within
i kind of really like swarming sheargrubs, not many enemies can be pursued outside of their typical arena and an enemy that serves to distract your pikmin while youre doing stuff is really fun to work around. its also a great test in self control, forcing you to avoid trying to kill the entire swarm as that would simply take too long. their ability to weigh down stuff your pikmin are carrying is also incredibly creative. i really wish there were more enemies like this
I like the "big enemy" idea, but I agree that they could use more to them. It should also have been solely the gimmick of Giant's Hearth. The Female Sheargrub is fine because it goes from not being able to hurt you to being able to hurt you, even though rocks aren't affected that's the case for a lot of elemental enemies. I will admit that I got a good laugh out of the big Wollywog, but at the same time there wasn't much to it. The Jumbo Bulborb was funny in that it basically has Down Syndrome according to the Piklopedia. Other than that, the size really should have made a difference. Have the Wollywog cause a small tremor which trips you when landing so you have to hop on Oatchi to dodge it or use Winged Pikmin to take it down. Have the Blowhogs have element on their butts or something to make it less of a weak spot for all Pikmin types. There's plenty to do and they just didn't do it. Given how much went into Pikmin 4 it's forgivable but at the same time we could have gotten more.
Hell, my introduction to the Jumbo Wollyhop was freezing it solid in mid‐air and watching it shatter on impact with the ground from nearly full health.
@@elijahpadilla5083 yea i found that my first time seeing it too, it was funny
Yea I agree that the Man at Legs and Pileated Snagret didn’t need to be so tanky, that being said I definitely feel the latter should’ve returned in 4 alongside the Gatling Groink and Careening Drigibug (Which I’m surprised wasn’t part of this video) mostly because I feel we need some more snagret enemies outside of baby snagrets, I would want to see the Burrowing snarrow finally make an official appearance but not as just a grey snagret.
The swarming sheargrub killed my wife
Also known as free Pikmin/Pokos.
Summed up my problem with Pikmin 4’s roster. I loved seeing these guys come back but by the end of the game it felt like jingling keys. It really contributes to pikmin 4’s lack of identity and just makes the game feel like Pikmin 2 Returns or some shit.
At the very least it’s cool to have all these enemies in one game for rom hacks I guess, if you want a silver lining.
That is being so insanely unfair to 4. There’s more to a game than just the enemy roster.
It’s not just the enemies, I love the game but up until around the post game it feels too much like a retread of old ideas. It’s like they mashed Pikmin 2 and 3 together which is a shame.
Pikmin 4 is at its best when it’s doing new idea but I feel like it genuinely has an identity problem along with a difficulty imbalance.
Honestly the thing that hurts most about Pikmin 4's roster is the fact that what little we have that is unique is absolutely amazing. My two favorite bosses in the entire game are both completely new to the series, those being Disco Long Legs and the Snowflake Fluttertail.
Especially the Snowflake Fluttertail. Most people give Disco Long Legs the love it definitely deserves, but honestly Snowflake Fluttertail has to take the spot as the coolest boss fight in the entire game. (Other than maybe the Ancient Sirehound)
praising snowfake while not knowing how to spell its name
This is truly pikmin.
This comment is pikmin approved
Pikmin 2 be like:
Me: attack boss
Boss: hide after one attack
This is my favorite weekly video since yesterday's
The worst part about _Pikmin 4_ and its enemy roster is how underbaked the ice element is. Aside from a one-time boss enemy, every ice enemy is a variation on some other. We have three different ice-type Blowhogs, an ice-type Bulborb _and_ Dwarf Bulborb, an ice-type Dweevil, an ice-type Wollyhop... it's really disappointing.
All my homies hate swarming sheargrub
10:07 you know what's ironic about the Armurk?
It has one of the best boss themes in the Pikmin series, weird for such a mid boss 😭
Like the theme goes harder than the actual fight
When I played the engulfed castle for the first time, i was more scared by the toxic variant of the flower (I forgot the name) than the waterwraith and timer.
id like to say for pikmin 4 i had 70 blue pikmin in the waterwraith cave you mentioned
i lost 66 pikmin
not because of the waterwraith he didnt kill a single one
they all died to self bombing enemies
because of that i couldnt even finish the cave because i didnt have enough purples to bring down the bag they have
I do like a couple of the pikmin 4 alternate variants, it shows how species adapt to different environments, like the skeeterskate and muckerskate.
But then others are like... why. For example the icy blowhog, as stated in the video the puffy blowhog's whole thing is that it traded fire for gas, allowing it to fly, so then why is there a version of the puffy blowhog but ice, at that point it should walk again. If I could redesign it I would firstly remove the back spikes so it's less like the puffy variant, and then I would little exhausts on the bottom of it's body or something, and the reason for that is that this icy blowhog uses the cold air it creates to make it's own air currents allowing it to fly.
I also kinda like the different sizes, especially with the bulblaxes, I like that there is a difference between emperor and sovereign, because that is how some animals behave irl.
You have the sovereign who is the boss, only he is allowed to mate with the emperesses, but then you have emperors who are competition and probably fight the current sovereign for power, if the sovereign wins he stays in power and shows what happens when you mess with him, if the emperor wins the sovereign gets dethroned and the empereor becomes the new sovereign (this is all just headcanon btw).
But then you have stuff like the giant fiery blowhog which is just a normal fiery blowhog but beeg.
Finally, good pikmin content
I had to subscribe. And its not because I love pikmin or bc your videos are hilarious or this could be one of the best content on UA-cam. But because i dont want the swarming sheergrub in P5
It would've been funny to have a regular enemy version of the groovy long legs boss. Nice video btw.
I think 4 still does have some cool enemies, both design wise and gameplay wise, despite there being a bit too much reliance of the older casts and recolored/resized enemies
Crusted Rumpup and Porquillion are pretty fun and I think the Porquillion had a fun platform usage, and the Foolix was honestly my ideal way of using an old enemy idea while subverting how it plays and works
The Piktuber GOAT is back! Hoping the pikmin 2 cave music ranking is soon 🤞🥶
I agree that Pikmin 4’s alternate enemy variants could use more to differentiate their designs. I do like that the extra big bulborb looking the same is cool though because it catches you off guard with its rampage attack.
the new bulborb variants of pikmin 4 just look like a bunch of map and hazard assets pasted on top of palette swaps. things like the fiery bulblax as an elemental equivalent being included in that game make these stand out all the more
I mean to be fair to pikmin 4 the watery blow hog definitely was not given a vastly different design.
6:30 It digests the pikmin after a while.
It doesn't but the similar Jellyfloats do
I see new Pikmin video, I watch. Good video.
Wasn't expecting another video after how long the Pikmin 2 Kaizo video took
I always wished that those forgotten and scrapped enemies were used in the Pikmin games because it would've made it better, especially those guys that need the berries to be lured out.
After all these years I thought the iridescent flint beetle getting automatically attacked by passing pikmin was an intentional mechanic, like its shiny shell activates the pikmin's ape brain and they go apeshit, but now i just feel silly 😭
Swarming Sheargrubs only defining trait to me is that it appears on that one varient of Jigsaw Fortress and they make for good pikmin food near the start of the round, but even then thats so situational that its not even worth then existing
I think one of pikmin 2’s worst enemies is the cannon beetle larvae, they are way too common and the boulders follow you for some reason, like they will actively track you down instead of slight homing. Their boulders instakill pikmin so your best bet is to use bitter spray or hope to get a stun using purples to avoid them shaking pikmin into the abyss. It’s like the best strategy is to cheese them or have a really long drawn out fight to avoid mass losses and with how some floors have so many it gets annoying pretty quick. I think if they could be stunned like the armoured cannon beetle when a pikmin is thrown in it’s blowhole it would make more sense and give more strategy to defeat them, maybe I just suck at pikmin 2 tho
So many of the enemies look like perfect snacks.
Bro I’ve been watching your videos from the beginning and somehow I think I’ve never commented. I love your sense of humor 😂 you always come up with unexpected endings to sentences.
Bulborb Larvae. As soon as they get a Pikmin in their mouth there's no saving that Pikmin
We're so fucking back
3:33 It's worth noting that in the Gamecube version you can take out half of its health before it even attacks because of its long spawn in animation
i love pikmin videos that are about the enemies
I'm also pretty sure the water wraith in PIkmin 4 straight up ignores you and instead wanders around like a roomba
Oh good I’m not the only one who was annoyed by trying to find the red spectrilid in 3. It bugged me so much when I saw I missing exactly one entry and had to go look it up
Is that the background music to "Office something, something Cop Maggot?"
didn't think i'd be hearing btd5 music in a imonlyhereforpikmin video
Two imonlyhereforpikmin videos one day after another it looks like fiddlemas came early this year
I'm glad the only reason Pikmin Adventure was brought up was as a comparison on how to do enemies right, GOATED game
When playing the games, I often wonder how i would approach some kind of challenge mode where all the enemies and bosses have 10x health. Given how you can cheese a lot of enimies in pikmin, especially in 3 and super especially in 4, i often find myself wishing they were more of a challenge. I particularly envision myself throwing a couple red pikmin at the firey blowhogs and let them chip away at them while i go do other things.
Bro pikmin going after the iridescent flint beetle is literally the entire point???
One annoying thing about the Swarming Sheargrub that you didn't talk about in the video is that it scares captains despite them being completely harmless. Like I'll just be playing the game and then I hear Charlie going "Cripes, this is bad!" and then I check up on him just to see those boogers and nothing else.
I can somewhat believe that a random animal could produce fire, but ice? Not so much.
Personally I liked that 4 largely had several returning enemies over new ones, However what I dislike was what a lazy cop out all the Giant enemies were.
Every single one has almost nothing unique about them (except sovereign bulblax, shout out sovereign) and reeks of lazy design every time I look at them. It’s like the devs thought “Ok so we have this enemy. But what if it was BIGGER? Cool, new enemy! Ok, I’m leaving early night guys”
And there’s SO MANY of them too! If you replaced all the generic boring giant enemies with new ones with unique designs I’m sure everyone who was upset pikmin 4 didn’t have many new enemies would’ve been happy
meanwhile im here poppin' off and so thrilled that the water wraith returned haha
what does bother me is that the preview image ruins the surprise, now thats just blame stupid right there
POV: Pikmin 1 GameCube version’s puffstool; begone foolish Pikmin for I banish thee to the world underworld!
Damn, a week already?
That green grub thing in Pikmin 3 has never affected my play-throughs even my first time playing
The Swarmers definitely affected my playthroughs of 3
Albeit not because they weighed things down, but rather because they constantly move across the map they'd keep attracting idle pikmin and then the mins would run into other enemies or the water and get themselves killed offscreen
Was that a Pikmin 2 mod that was used for footage when you were talking about Hey Pikmin?
I'm so happy the Swarming Sheargrub didn't return.
technically the watery blowhog and shearwig dont appear in 3 at all! Remembrer everything in the formidable oak is a construct made by the plasm wraith to stop you from rescuing olimar.
I think Man-at-Legs has a reasonable amount of health. It's active for a while before shaking your pikmin off, so you have time to get decent damage in, and I usually beat it in 3 or 4 cycles.
Pileated Snagret though, runs away the moment a pikmin touches it, and deathless runs can take a dozen cycles of rolling dice for it's head to get stuck in the ground. I can see Man-at-Legs being a boring fight once you're used to it, but it's no where near as tedious as the snagret.
My personal least favorite enemy in Pikmin is the Shaggy Longlegs, but that's the only disagreement I have.
I didnt realize crushing in Pikmin 1 was a glitch, thought it was just another weird pikmin 1 mechanic
Its strange that i keep hearing about the clipping problem in videos because it hasnt happened to me. Probably cuz i tend to throw pikmin and kite the enemy near by while they do damage. Its often not safe to swarm into a battle so i dont do it much
please make a full video on nintendo land pikmin adventure someday it needs to be talked about
I actually disagree partially with the water wraith, when I first entered the sublevel I didn't expect him to return at all and the music slowly fading into the submerges castle theme actually gave me the creeps. That and the realisation of the name + pikmin I am carrying made me be super anxious and hyped for our boi.
I agree he was a lot easier to avoid and play around. But most of Pikmin 4 has been made easier, so I think this makes sense. Personally I don't mind it at all, seeing as the real challenge are somewhat the dandori medals in that game
(coming from someone who played pikmin 1-3 again before playing 4 for the first time last week)
Some of these enemies make me wish they were…
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2 new imonlyhereforpikmin videos in 2 days we eating good tonite
will never forgive them for brining back the Puffstool but not Puffmin
2:55 It's a hard world we live in😥
Okay well,
the engulfed castle and waterwraith aren’t as hard as people say, hell even when I first played it in pikmin 2 I still got through it, even losing 55 Pikmin
Honestly I think people that Pikmin 2’s hard difficulty factor (which the game isn’t even that hard anyway) and use to review future games or even Pikmin 1
1:40 I personally didn't experience any of those glitches myself. Pikmin 1 & 2 on the Wii were great
2:21 in pikmin 1 when i tried fighting a bulbear for some reason half of my squad died?? like not from the bulbear but they just disappeared?
Pikmin 4 really fealt like a reboot of the franchise.. it’s also what got me into it so.. it worked out I guess.
Till the end of the earth, I will support the Ravenous Whiskerpillar. The Bloysters may be my hero, but the Whiskerpillar was my friend.
Personally I always use reds instead of purples when playing 2 and that Pileated Snagret felt like it was not taking nearly the amount of damage it should have, normally I only have to do 3 or 4 cycles of it before it's dead
similar story with Man-at-Legs
Since I was thinking about playing pikmin 2, but I don't have a gamecube, (I know they're on the switch), does the wii version of pikmin 2 have the same glitch and sound effect problems as pikmin 1's wii version?
For someone used to 4 and 3 deluxe, is it better to play pikmin 2 on the wii or on the switch?
It doesn’t have the same sound effect glitch as pikmin 1 wii
That's cool and all, but do a Pikmin 2 challenge mode ranked or else the volatile dweevil will be cut in Pikmin 5.
give the Waterwraith a break, he’s 20 years older now
i keep forgetting pikmin 4 exists
Idk if it’s just me but on my first try I tried to 100% engulfed castle in Pikmin 4 and I lost all my Pikmin and was scarred for the rest of the cave. I got through as fast as I could so I didn’t have to see it again, I guess it’s because I’m a new Pikmin player but still I was horrified and I just spammed purples at it at the final fight.
I Love my tiny little Pill man
Peak video
bad enemies make for a great video
I'm surprised that the Wolpole didn't make the list at all. The most memorable thing about the Wolpole is seeing them fall from the sky in the first floor of the Shower Room because you drained the water before entering the cave. Otherwise it's completely there for atmosphere with very little substance
I was thinking about including them in this vid but they are mostly inoffensive even if they are completely useless