@@NoodleSoup56 No, they have all appeared before. Wiggly shows up in Black Friday, the show before this one. The others all make appearances in different episodes of Nightmare Time: Blinky - Watcher World Nibbly - Honey Queen Tinky - Time Bastard Pokey - Yellow Jacket
@Boo-u5i Wiggly appears as the main antagonist in Black Friday and people say that Pokey is the cause of the meteor in The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals but he's not actually referenced in it at any point. And the rest appear throughout the Nightmare Time series
There's also sort of connection between each of the dual roles. Tinky and Nibbly are kind of hedonistic and instinctual, doing things based on what's fun or constantly consuming, respectively, which puts them as opposites of the Chastity's who want to suppress any primal or hedonistic urges. Mayor Lauter wants to be in control, and Pokey is about being the apotheosis, the single voice in the universe. Ruth wanted to be the center of attention while Blinky looks at everything. Richie was the lowest rung on the social ladder and only got one day of feeling like he wasn't a loser before Max took it from him, while Wiggly is the leader of the lords and kills Max, making him his bitch.
Also I feel there’s a parallel warranted between Wiggly and Paul (I swear it’s not just because they’re played by Jon) Wiggly is an arrogant immature and purely manic being, while Paul is fairly-tempered and quite literally “just some guy”. Also Jon’s acting for Wiggly is very reminiscent of Paul’s slow corruption during Let It Out, which itself was inspired by him wanting to perform aJekyll and Hyde self-duet thing
I feel like Wiggly is using Richie’s body and here’s why: “What’s in your pock-et, Steph-a-nie?” That is EXACTLY the cadence that Richie speaks in, and maybe I’m reading too deep into it this is the same actor who’s been doing that cadence for the vast majority of his screentime so maybe it was an unconcious slip but…it FEELS more important than that…
i also love how Wiggly looks really fed up when he says, "Go nighthawks" and immediately after he does so he just looks like he's questioning in his head, "who wrote this garbage"
I find it interesting that all the Lords have fur as part of their clothing except for Wiggog Wiggog Y'rath, who has a Wiggly plush on his back. It's like there's fur there, but harder to notice, which sets him apart just as much as his crown
@@myplace4play yep. also i like how Wiggly scolds pokey for his claim that there true forms would melt there minds. After all, we saw Wigglys true form in Black Friday
@@PS-dm1dqFrom what I read although Nibbly is a Lord in Black, they don’t have one true form so they can assume any gender or species they want. But it came down to the fact the Nibbly doll in Nightmare time has pink fur and the fact that Kim was the only other cast member available for the scene that Nibbly appears female. There is also a theory that the Lords in Black represent a high school stereotype. Nibbly would be the popular/80’s cheerleader.
1:39 When Tinky says he’ll have the whole set it’s implied the LIBs know from the start that they’re going to tell Steph to kill Peter. The moment he’s dead, Tinky is gonna lock him in the Bastard’s Box with his brother.
@@_hamhead_ Yeaahh, Ted from TGWDLM!! In Nightmare Time: Time Bastard he wuzz locked in the bastardzz box by Tinky after he traved abt a decade into the past, fucking up hizz brainn. There'zz also anotherr important detail in TB but I'mma let sm1 else spoil that(Or you watch the episode urself lol)
I know there's extended lore for most of these guys but I haven't seen any of it, but considering that the blue one has a mask he holds up, i have a feeling he's the one behind "the guy who didn't like musicals"
as someone who hasn't seen any of the nightmare time stuff (other than through compilations) I also picked up on pokotho being TGWDLM's Lord, but because of the ""weird blue shit"" being what infects everyone
nope! his real name is wiggog y'wrath. he just uses a cutesy name bc, among other things, wiggly is a much more fitting name for a doll :p (black friday is such a good musical)
Yup lol. Wiggly's name is Wiggog Y'Wrath. Nibbly is Nibblinephim, Tinky is T'noy Keraxis, Blinky is Bliklotep, and Pokey is Pokotho. You can hear their names when the 3 start the summoning. :D
So there's five alters to the Lords-in-Black. We've got the Starlight Theatre, the Mall, the Carnival, the Wayland House, and the Highschool. It seems to me that each alter is devoted to one of the lords. Starlight Theatre is naturally Pokey's domain as aside from being dressed as a theatre kid, he's the source of the meteor that crashed into the theatre in TGWDLM. The Mall is devoted to Wiggly as we saw it be his place of power in Black Friday. The Carnival I would call Tinky's domain. Mostly based on vibes to be honest but the toybox comment and his puzzle box give off carnival game vibes. The Wayland House I'd give to Blinky as its what brought Max back to life and he's always lit in dark bluish colours that with a little leeway could be called purple. The Highschool is whats left for Nibbly though I think it's somewhat fitting given how those places devour the souls and crush the spirits of students and teachers alike.
I feel like the carnival could also belong to blinky as we saw in watcher world. It was a carnival type place so that’s another option. Also Tinky’s comment about the toy box is in reference to a nightmare time play where he trapped ted spankoffski in his toy box. Also I feel like nibbly could work better for the waylon place as there was some cannibalism (I think, I’m not sure tho). So that leaves the high school for tinky which could make sense as high school often feels like being trapped in a box for a lot of people.
The Carnival is not a black altar and it would be Blinky’s domain anyway. The Altars are (in the order that Peter and Grace find them on the map - “down town” aka the CCRP Building (Paul’s workplace and Tinky’s favorite place), the Starlight Theatre (Pokey’s base in TGWDLM), the Waylon Place, the Lakeside Mall that was built on top of the old mill (Wiggy’s base in BF), and the school. Nibbly is more likely to haunt the Waylon’s place because they used to sacrifice people to him there before the Church was massacred (see Honey Queen) and Blinky probably enjoys watching the students in the school, but really there’s only 3 locations that are semi confirmed to be associated with a particular Lord in Black.
Someone pointed out under the full musical that it also gives the vibe of being able to glimpse part of his actual form in the peripheral. Like you can slightly make out the eldritch being behind the flesh suit but not fully. But like you said it also adds fur to his costume which idk how else they couldve incorporated with the type of clothing used for Wiggly. Just sad that the other LiB dont have their dolls
@@Jan-jt9jli think that's because only one of the other dolls exist, but they had mutiple wigglys. Tbh I wish they would release the dolls and raise the price to make it Cost efficient-
@@Jan-jt9jl I think the doll makes the most sense for Wiggly, as it is the only doll that actually has been shown to be related to his power (Although I have only seen the first ep of Nightmare time, where Blinky's doll seemingly is unrelated to his powers and just serves as in universe merchandise)
My head cannon for what the LIB would be if they were high school kids Pokey: obviously a theatre kid. Not just because of TGWDLM but also since he’s the most uncompromising ( that just screams pretentious theatre kid to me) Blinky: streamer kid/UA-cam addict who films school fights and eggs on the situation Tinky: pure Rubik’s cube kid(take that statement as you will) Nibly: tennis kid/ fem boy foodie who always hogs the good food from the cafeteria Wiggly: Mathlete/class president (you thought I was gonna say popular jock huh? No!)
I hadn’t been keeping up with nightmare time at all, and I was so lost on the significance of the lords in black. I think I put together Wiggog Y’wrath right before the first fwendy-wends, and after that, I was so blown away…
I really like how all of the forms the lords in black take has some sort of tie in to what they do/are associated with Pokey is dressed like someone in theatre, which is likely referencing the guy who didn’t like musicals Tinky is dressed in clothing that’s full of pockets and wears goggles on his head. Such utility based clothing would imply one of his titles as “the tinkerer” Wiggly is dressed in a crown, obviously referencing his role as the ruler of the black and white, but also wears a suit/letterman jacket type mix. Like a star player in a sport, who you could call “the ruler of a school” Blinky wears glittery glasses, likely referencing his association with, well, eyes. And nibbly is a little more confusing for me, but you could say the pink clothes he wears, other than referencing the color associated with him, could tie into his food associations, as pink stuff is usually tied with sweet things or food. I just thought that was neat.
does anyone else notice how jon as wiggly crosses his hands and wiggles his fingers a bit??? is he the only one that does that is it because he's a tentacle thing?
God this song is so damn catchy! I love the costuming, the lighting, the music, just all of it. I never got a chance to watch nightmare time before I saw NPMD, but I immediately binged it afterwards and love seeing the Lords in Black in human form! I can imagine with this being their first musical since the pandemic, it must have been so cool to see these characters that they created/debuted during a time of isolation on stage for the first time in 4 years. As someone who has been watching Starkid since AVPM, it makes me so happy to see how far they've come in terms of production quality and songs. Been listening to this soundtrack on repeat, Jeff really killed it with this show and everyone was just top notch!
I personally really like the choice of the tracking camera shots in this video over seeing the whole thing in one static view. I feel like being forced to look at certain characters when they speak or to follow in a specific direction or pattern somewhat emphasizes how lost and confused and powerless the characters feel in this moment. I really enjoy it.
Omg i just noticed the opening just before the lords appear is the same as that motif in Black Friday. The one where they go "we will build a portal just for" omg i never noticed that
@@AlinaAniretake Oh OK, got it now. But I don't get the 'not true' part, then. If they don't do it, they have no way to get rid of Jagerman, and so ... they die ... rieght ?
@@Awelbeckk I mean - usually, when someone says that, they, usually, mean that not in a way "Something might kill you later", or "You'll not survive without us", but usually it gives off a vibe "If you'll give us nothing - we'll freaking murder you on spot" (which is kind of what I could expect from Lords in Black). Technically yeah, it's probably IS true, but something tells me, that line gave me the vibe, of it being not on technical level Could be amazingly wrong, don't worry.
No one talking about the line “Why help you with the Jagerman when we can help the world” To me it sounds like their saying we could help you but we could also cause disasters and miracles too
0:52 So I know they are lovecraftian eldritch gods that the can take the shape of anything they want. But since they’re considered brothers yet blinky and Nibly chose to take on feminine forms, is it safe to head canon that they’re fem boys/gender fluid? ❤
@gamingdemigodxiii5630 I would agree but they are very distinctly Brothers and even do have a Sister so gender does exist for them in some capacity at least
@@LovingBallOfApricots I like the idea that at one point Webby was also considered one of their brothers, but when she stopped being evil they decided she wasn't allowed to be a brother anymore and started calling her sister
Is it just me or the part where Wiggly moves Pete's hair while saying "think about it", making steph look at him, is extremely brain tickiling, like- ive tought about this precise scene and how actually perfect it was since ive seen the musical 😭 Tell me im not the only one
I 100% believe the random words in the beginning are the actual names of the lords in black and you can't stop me Pokotho sounds like Pokey, Nibblelinephym could be the one of the lolipop, Wiggog Wiggog Y'rath is a lot like Wiggly, etc. Edit: lmao they are I just haven't seen anything from nightmare time whoops
@@Sidgirl5This musical is what got me into nightmare time!! the good thing is you don't really need to watch in order, I would start with honey queen, people had a hard time with apeman, (i did too at first, good episode but great "first episode" vibes.) Honesty getting into nightmare time made me really enjoy black friday, loved the music but all the characters felt confusing to keep track of... Now i'm kicking my feet when Gerald shows up
1:46 could steph be a possible honey queen when she grows up (if her interaction with the LIB didn’t happen) because of nibbly taking such interest in her? in nightmare time, nibbly eats the honey queens, and nibbly says “yum yum” at the thought of steph.
Oooo thats such an interesting thought, specially combined with the 'cool as i think i am (reprise)' later in the musical, could show "how far she's willing to go" same with Linda in honey queen (very different motivations but its interesting)
Honestly, when I was watching this I was expecting the Lord in Black and White to be scary or something demonic but I won't lie, they look like teletubbies 😭
well, they lampshade it with the whole "holding court in your own tounge and form" line. even Wiggly warning Pokey against scaring the kids...if they were too frightened, the Lords wouldn' t be able to have FUN. I mean..maybe it's hardwired into the book, but it didn't sound like there were any CONDITIONS included in that spell. They showed up "freindly" becasue they WANTED to. It was a win-win situation for them. Watch Jeagerman run amok? good fun. drag him down to drowsy town instead? JUST as fun. and they got an acolyte out of the deal they can manipulate later. Playing with Steph and Peter was icing on the cake(especially for Tinky), but i suspect Grace was always the real target. Inflate her already overinflated sense of superiority. maybe later on they'll try to sic her on some of the REAL problems they have around town...like the one that keeps resetting the timeline everytime they're about to WIN. Havne't you notice? they always zero in on the people who think they "know better" and can "handle it"
lyrics: Pikotho Blikotep T'noy keraxis nibblelinephym wiggog wiggog y'rath Ah-oh-ah-oh oh wiggog wiggog y'rath! Did it work? Hello, Fwendy-wends Out of the depths of hell and back us spawn of the black and white cover our souls with robes of black And take up the arms of night Nibbleine wants his sacrifice and wiggly wants his wrath we dance around the pentagram And take all our kingdoms back Bubble the spell that gets it done Babble it on command wont stop until all the blood is drawn The lords in black DEMAND! You summon us once you summon us twice You gamble it on the roll of the dice La la la la la The devil has won it cant be undone the book has all but closed on your life (im too lazy to make the rest so here u go :D)
Watched the Hatchedfield previous play (especially Black Friday) reframing this song for me and giving me a very late hype of Wiggly's first appearance. I'm fuckin too late on the hype, dammit.
SPOILER, DO NOT CONTINUE IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE SAD. Also this is a rough summary. Peter is Ted's (TGWDLM) brother. Before he turned into a sleazeball, he was once a nerd who was in love with a girl. They both liked each other unknowingly, and he was to late to tell her and she went to Clivesdale with another guy since she thought he didn't love her back. Tinky showed Ted a vision of him and the girl getting married. He went to his office, said it feels like the printer is gonna take 80 years to finish printing, and woke up 80 years later. He accidentally killed a cyborg who hates his guts with a futuristic device, then he goes back to his office and recites the day that the girl left for Clivesdale. He knocked past Ted out, beat up the guy the girl was supposed to leave with (who was the cyborg all along), and went to her. He was super sleazy and she was confused. He accidentally kills her with the device. He goes back to the office but couldn't turn back time. Tinky told him he went too far back. His heart broke. Tinky showed him his toybox, and it showed Ted in different timelines suffering endlessly, and this broke Ted's mind. His voice becomes low and he slurs his words. His mind is slow. He's always looking for home. He picks up clothes in the trash. In present day, he is known as the homeless man. "Spare change for the homeless?"
THEORY (with spoiler) Tinky said Ted went too far back. Why? He went back to 2004. When was Hannah born? 2005. After all, everything leads back to Hannah.
@@emberrain7389 So does this mean Ted getting trapped in past is necessary for all timelines? I might be wrong, but aren't events before Hannah set in stone?
Instead of just seeing this as multiple casting, I like to think of this as The Lords in Black taking the forms of some of the people who have already been killed off/ people who are close to Steph, Pete and Grace
2:54 || that "Whatever we want we want we want," part has been RUINED for me after watching the watch party with Jon and Jeff where Jeff pointed out the Jon is just a *tad* off with his timing (he's like a millisecond behind) 😭 I CANT UNHEAR IT 💀💀💀
one should also point out that they insist on communicating in the form of....a musical. brief spoken dialogue to communicate details interspersed with musical lines to say what they REALLY want. Even the one line about the phone is the LiB (heh, LiBs will be the ruin of the world) unilaterally REFUSING a sincere (if desperate) offer of payment in a manner that blurs the musical and spoken aspects. it doesn't matter if you are a man (or woman) who doens't like musicals...they aren't going anywhere. They're here to stay..and they're HUNGRY.
I don't know why but a bunch of Eldritch Gods yelling 'WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR PHONE!' is so goddamn funny to me.
SameXD
Agreed
they've definitely heard that way too many times across the multiverse of Hatchetfield
Especially since it wasn't just them talking, they literally brought back the chords and special lighting just for that line
I love how they all yell it in unison and just sound *so angry*
It's the best, lol
I love that everyone cheered when they heard Wiggly
It is because we are all a cult.
How do people know who the lords are? This is their first appearance no?
@@NoodleSoup56 No, they have all appeared before. Wiggly shows up in Black Friday, the show before this one. The others all make appearances in different episodes of Nightmare Time:
Blinky - Watcher World
Nibbly - Honey Queen
Tinky - Time Bastard
Pokey - Yellow Jacket
@@Adrienne_Eades oh, I didn't know black Friday existed! Something else to watch I see
Ha. Nerds. Imagine cheering for some stupid characters in a stupid musical. (I literally screamed at this part)
You know the main characters are in deep shit when their best hope are five of the most twisted antagonists from the previous plays
What play is that
@@Boo-u5iPokey is the antagonist of tgwdlm and wiggly was the antagonist of black friday
@@Boo-u5ithe lords appear within several of the nightmare time plays!
@@gaeriefire2762 thank you
@Boo-u5i Wiggly appears as the main antagonist in Black Friday and people say that Pokey is the cause of the meteor in The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals but he's not actually referenced in it at any point. And the rest appear throughout the Nightmare Time series
The casting is perfectly ironic. Grace's parents, Steph's dad, and Richie and Ruth as Wiggly and Blinky. Everyone closest to them (except each other).
There's also sort of connection between each of the dual roles. Tinky and Nibbly are kind of hedonistic and instinctual, doing things based on what's fun or constantly consuming, respectively, which puts them as opposites of the Chastity's who want to suppress any primal or hedonistic urges. Mayor Lauter wants to be in control, and Pokey is about being the apotheosis, the single voice in the universe. Ruth wanted to be the center of attention while Blinky looks at everything. Richie was the lowest rung on the social ladder and only got one day of feeling like he wasn't a loser before Max took it from him, while Wiggly is the leader of the lords and kills Max, making him his bitch.
I was thinking of that as well. Nice.
Also I feel there’s a parallel warranted between Wiggly and Paul (I swear it’s not just because they’re played by Jon)
Wiggly is an arrogant immature and purely manic being, while Paul is fairly-tempered and quite literally “just some guy”. Also Jon’s acting for Wiggly is very reminiscent of Paul’s slow corruption during Let It Out, which itself was inspired by him wanting to perform aJekyll and Hyde self-duet thing
I feel like Wiggly is using Richie’s body and here’s why: “What’s in your pock-et, Steph-a-nie?” That is EXACTLY the cadence that Richie speaks in, and maybe I’m reading too deep into it this is the same actor who’s been doing that cadence for the vast majority of his screentime so maybe it was an unconcious slip but…it FEELS more important than that…
@@swordsmanthegamernine7973 I felt the same way!
By far the best scene, the Lords in Blacks' song is constantly stuck in my head
Yeah, it’s great.
Second favorite song after hatchet town
i feel like the whole production was set up for this scene rofl
Dude, I'm constantly singing it to myself-
Between this and the titular song when Richie dies, yeah, stuck in my head constantly
I’ve summoned these bastards so many times by singing this. They’re gonna drag me down to Drowsy Town lol.
Same 😭
ill be joinning you dude
The second time, they're going to be like, "Oh, it's you again."
The third time, they're going to be like: "WHAT THE !@#$ do you want NOW?!"
@@Kazutoification wiggly knows what i want- iiiiiiiff you catch my drift
@@winstermagic7886Ayo?
i also love how Wiggly looks really fed up when he says, "Go nighthawks" and immediately after he does so he just looks like he's questioning in his head, "who wrote this garbage"
I trust everyone else also had a very normal reaction to Jon saying 'you nasty boy'
i must confess i have never been normal about anything he does ever
I am so very normal about Jon always and especially when he's unhinged, completely normal yessiree
Ohhhh thank god, I thought it was just me. I can go back to being, uh, normal now, knowing I’m not doing it alone.
i love how normal we all are abt them 🌝
I am simply average whenever Jon appears in any context. And most definitely average and also normal when he’s entirely insane.
WE MAKIN IT OUT OF DROWSY TOWN WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🔥🔥
SNIGGLET YOU ARE TRYING TO LEAVE AGAIN???
If you keep singing it you might find yourself right back where you started
I find it interesting that all the Lords have fur as part of their clothing except for Wiggog Wiggog Y'rath, who has a Wiggly plush on his back. It's like there's fur there, but harder to notice, which sets him apart just as much as his crown
It's only Wiggog Y'wrath it's only said twice because of the song
i love the fact that wiggly essentially references black friday (his debut) by saying he'll check his christmas list
Also Pokey asks "What do you want, Steph?" referencing the fact he was antagonist in TGWDLM
@@myplace4play yep. also i like how Wiggly scolds pokey for his claim that there true forms would melt there minds. After all, we saw Wigglys true form in Black Friday
@@evanraynolds8699Well, hints of it. Not the whole thing
@@animeotaku307 i count it as a reference because of how obvious the hint is
WHATEVER WE WANT WE WANT WE WANT WHATEVER WE WANT WE GET‼️‼️🗣️
WHATEVER YOU WANT YOU WANT YOU WANT FOREVER IN OUR DEBT‼‼🗣
WE’RE MAKING IT OUTTA THE BLACK AND WHITE WITH THIS ONE
Wonder how many times they messed up that line during practice.
@@iwantmylifeintwo2601 Hmmm, what could you give to me? Let me check my Christmas list..
@@iwantmylifeintwo2601Hmmm...what could you give to me? Let me check my Christmas list...
I feel like Nibbly's Lollipop is made of human flesh. Anyone else get that vibe?
It almost certainly is made from the skin of hot chicks. Nibbly has a taste for them, so much so that it seems he likes to cosplay as one
@@PS-dm1dqFrom what I read although Nibbly is a Lord in Black, they don’t have one true form so they can assume any gender or species they want. But it came down to the fact the Nibbly doll in Nightmare time has pink fur and the fact that Kim was the only other cast member available for the scene that Nibbly appears female. There is also a theory that the Lords in Black represent a high school stereotype. Nibbly would be the popular/80’s cheerleader.
Candy can be made from people
Vibe tbh
I personally guess pig intestines 😂
🎶what do you want steph?🎶
I want you to want Steph!
What do you want PAUL🎶
Anyone enjoying being choked when ... doing other stuff ...
Because I want you to want… to want!
Sick Babylon 5 reference, StarKid
twirling my hair and kicking my feet every time theres a close up of nibbly. kim whalen is just SO good at movement and expressions and being unhinged
Same
NEPETA also yeah same
1:39 When Tinky says he’ll have the whole set it’s implied the LIBs know from the start that they’re going to tell Steph to kill Peter. The moment he’s dead, Tinky is gonna lock him in the Bastard’s Box with his brother.
Peter has a brother and is locked in the box?
@@_hamhead_ Yeaahh, Ted from TGWDLM!! In Nightmare Time: Time Bastard he wuzz locked in the bastardzz box by Tinky after he traved abt a decade into the past, fucking up hizz brainn. There'zz also anotherr important detail in TB but I'mma let sm1 else spoil that(Or you watch the episode urself lol)
" Stephanie has got a gun, she knows what must be done" has gotta be the best line frfr
Yeah it’s weirdly panic inducing
Jon is so good at making his eyes just really intense
I know there's extended lore for most of these guys but I haven't seen any of it, but considering that the blue one has a mask he holds up, i have a feeling he's the one behind "the guy who didn't like musicals"
You are very correct
He is Pokotho (Pokey for short). Highly recommend watching the Nightmare Time episode Yellow Jacket to see Pokey again!!
as someone who hasn't seen any of the nightmare time stuff (other than through compilations) I also picked up on pokotho being TGWDLM's Lord, but because of the ""weird blue shit"" being what infects everyone
He also says ‘What do you want Steph?’ With the identical intonation to ‘What do you want Paul?’
I didn’t know any lore either then I fell down the rabbit hole! I suggest you do because the lores good
I love how this implies that Wiggly is not his real name but that he just kinda stuck with it
nope! his real name is wiggog y'wrath. he just uses a cutesy name bc, among other things, wiggly is a much more fitting name for a doll :p
(black friday is such a good musical)
Fun fact all of the Lord's in Black have cutesy names. There's Pokey, Nibbly, Blinky, Tinky, and of course Wiggly
@@LovingBallOfApricotsthey sound like off brand teletubbies i mean one of them is named tinky
Yup lol. Wiggly's name is Wiggog Y'Wrath. Nibbly is Nibblinephim, Tinky is T'noy Keraxis, Blinky is Bliklotep, and Pokey is Pokotho. You can hear their names when the 3 start the summoning. :D
Jon's contacts really sealed his unsettling appearence, 10/10
what’s even better is that he’s not wearing contacts, his eyes are just **that** intense
Nibbly wants his sacrifice and wiggly wants his wrath is so perfect
I’m already an adult, but when I grow up I want to be one of those lords in black
So there's five alters to the Lords-in-Black. We've got the Starlight Theatre, the Mall, the Carnival, the Wayland House, and the Highschool. It seems to me that each alter is devoted to one of the lords.
Starlight Theatre is naturally Pokey's domain as aside from being dressed as a theatre kid, he's the source of the meteor that crashed into the theatre in TGWDLM.
The Mall is devoted to Wiggly as we saw it be his place of power in Black Friday.
The Carnival I would call Tinky's domain. Mostly based on vibes to be honest but the toybox comment and his puzzle box give off carnival game vibes.
The Wayland House I'd give to Blinky as its what brought Max back to life and he's always lit in dark bluish colours that with a little leeway could be called purple.
The Highschool is whats left for Nibbly though I think it's somewhat fitting given how those places devour the souls and crush the spirits of students and teachers alike.
I feel like the carnival could also belong to blinky as we saw in watcher world. It was a carnival type place so that’s another option. Also Tinky’s comment about the toy box is in reference to a nightmare time play where he trapped ted spankoffski in his toy box. Also I feel like nibbly could work better for the waylon place as there was some cannibalism (I think, I’m not sure tho). So that leaves the high school for tinky which could make sense as high school often feels like being trapped in a box for a lot of people.
The Carnival is not a black altar and it would be Blinky’s domain anyway. The Altars are (in the order that Peter and Grace find them on the map - “down town” aka the CCRP Building (Paul’s workplace and Tinky’s favorite place), the Starlight Theatre (Pokey’s base in TGWDLM), the Waylon Place, the Lakeside Mall that was built on top of the old mill (Wiggy’s base in BF), and the school.
Nibbly is more likely to haunt the Waylon’s place because they used to sacrifice people to him there before the Church was massacred (see Honey Queen) and Blinky probably enjoys watching the students in the school, but really there’s only 3 locations that are semi confirmed to be associated with a particular Lord in Black.
Just noticed that Wiggly has a Wiggly doll for a backpack.
Someone pointed out under the full musical that it also gives the vibe of being able to glimpse part of his actual form in the peripheral. Like you can slightly make out the eldritch being behind the flesh suit but not fully.
But like you said it also adds fur to his costume which idk how else they couldve incorporated with the type of clothing used for Wiggly.
Just sad that the other LiB dont have their dolls
@@Jan-jt9jli think that's because only one of the other dolls exist, but they had mutiple wigglys. Tbh I wish they would release the dolls and raise the price to make it Cost efficient-
@@Jan-jt9jl I think the doll makes the most sense for Wiggly, as it is the only doll that actually has been shown to be related to his power (Although I have only seen the first ep of Nightmare time, where Blinky's doll seemingly is unrelated to his powers and just serves as in universe merchandise)
Yep my autism latched onto this HARD
SAME
Sameeeee
same
Yuuup
My head cannon for what the LIB would be if they were high school kids
Pokey: obviously a theatre kid. Not just because of TGWDLM but also since he’s the most uncompromising ( that just screams pretentious theatre kid to me)
Blinky: streamer kid/UA-cam addict who films school fights and eggs on the situation
Tinky: pure Rubik’s cube kid(take that statement as you will)
Nibly: tennis kid/ fem boy foodie who always hogs the good food from the cafeteria
Wiggly: Mathlete/class president (you thought I was gonna say popular jock huh? No!)
I hadn’t been keeping up with nightmare time at all, and I was so lost on the significance of the lords in black. I think I put together Wiggog Y’wrath right before the first fwendy-wends, and after that, I was so blown away…
To be fair Poktho was referenced in the Guy who didn’t like musicals but there was no physical form. All of them were in the Nightmare time series.
@@moonwalkerangel7008 Yeah, similar to how Webby could just be seen as Hannah's interpretation of her psychic link to the black and white
I really like how all of the forms the lords in black take has some sort of tie in to what they do/are associated with
Pokey is dressed like someone in theatre, which is likely referencing the guy who didn’t like musicals
Tinky is dressed in clothing that’s full of pockets and wears goggles on his head. Such utility based clothing would imply one of his titles as “the tinkerer”
Wiggly is dressed in a crown, obviously referencing his role as the ruler of the black and white, but also wears a suit/letterman jacket type mix. Like a star player in a sport, who you could call “the ruler of a school”
Blinky wears glittery glasses, likely referencing his association with, well, eyes.
And nibbly is a little more confusing for me, but you could say the pink clothes he wears, other than referencing the color associated with him, could tie into his food associations, as pink stuff is usually tied with sweet things or food.
I just thought that was neat.
imo the visors that nibbly wears it meant to cover his eyes and more prominently show his mouth
@@x-ca1iber I didn’t think about that when I wrote the comment. That’s a good point.
WE MAKING IT OUT OF THE DEPTHS OF HELL AND BACK WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
4:50 Man,I love how he say "Pay the price,or FUCK OFF",maaaaaaaaaaaaaan,I love him
My favorite thing is the lords in black could’ve chose *any* form and they chose the most bright and colorful ones and it just makes me happy
3:38 “What do you want Paul?” Pokey referencing TGWDLM 😝
Oh how come I didn't catch that?
they have such fae vibes i love them
They're pretty much eldritch fae gods
They pretty much are
Eldritch fae gods, yes
does anyone else notice how jon as wiggly crosses his hands and wiggles his fingers a bit??? is he the only one that does that is it because he's a tentacle thing?
Yeah, he's evoking the tentacles his true form has.
I haven’t even watched nightmare time and I still love all of the lords in black just from watching NPMD 😭
i rewatched this scene so many times yet i still giggle and kick my feet at 4:15 every time
SAME OMLLLLLL
Giggle at what exactly? Sensuality?
@@Thyuniquehandle thank you yes exactly this
@aldendomino3523 what a weird ass comment how tf could you even be confused about that lol
Same bro it makes me BLUSH
BRO ME TOO IVE REPLAYED IT LIME 300 TIMES
God this song is so damn catchy! I love the costuming, the lighting, the music, just all of it. I never got a chance to watch nightmare time before I saw NPMD, but I immediately binged it afterwards and love seeing the Lords in Black in human form! I can imagine with this being their first musical since the pandemic, it must have been so cool to see these characters that they created/debuted during a time of isolation on stage for the first time in 4 years.
As someone who has been watching Starkid since AVPM, it makes me so happy to see how far they've come in terms of production quality and songs. Been listening to this soundtrack on repeat, Jeff really killed it with this show and everyone was just top notch!
I personally really like the choice of the tracking camera shots in this video over seeing the whole thing in one static view. I feel like being forced to look at certain characters when they speak or to follow in a specific direction or pattern somewhat emphasizes how lost and confused and powerless the characters feel in this moment. I really enjoy it.
This is the scene that sent me down the Hatchetfield rabbit hole 💚💜💛🩷💙
4:01 - this will always make me howl! How exasperated they are with her!
3:53 this is by far my favourite line in the whole musical
SHE WAS SO CONFIDENT 💀💀💀💀
"whATs iN yOUR pOcKeT Ste-phA-NiE" 💚
Omg i just noticed the opening just before the lords appear is the same as that motif in Black Friday. The one where they go "we will build a portal just for" omg i never noticed that
Curt as Tinky kinda reminds me of Goggi Mega from the original Lazytown and Kookaburra from Splatalot in terms of visual design
Curt reminds me of Mike Trapp or Captain Disillusion
Goddamn I haven't thought about Splatalot for a hot minute, that's one hell of a reference
oh my god splatalot, i have been looking everywhere for the australian commentary version and cant find it anywhere
WHY IS NO OME TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE JON MAKES AT 3:11😭😭
Something about the way the lords in black talk and move entrances me.
I keep coming back to the video for them (and for Steph x Peter confirmation)
This video made me realize they’re saying the Lords’ full names - wiggly is short for “wiggog wiggog yrath” lmao??
i mean imagine saying that all the time . . .
Just Wiggog Y’rath according to the wiki!
Yet lords are fine just casually saying their short names, which is also a cute detail.
@@AlinaAniretake except when summoning them, black magic you know, it doesn't agree with informal names
@@mercuryenthusiast Nibblelinphym wants her sacrifice and wiggog y’rath wants his wrath does sound pretty hard to say
Half the songs in the show are villain songs, and they're all bangers.
bro i love this song so much, its so unnerving and slightly disturbing at some parts, and its so cool, THANK YOU STARKID
they just make me happy is all.
i’m so completely normal about them.
I love how much this sounds like a creature feature song
Did anyone else notice that Jon’s eyebrows are green for this
yes ✋✋✋
and his eyes I think
As soon as they mentioned dark gods, I immediately thought Wiggly. I'm happy to see I was right
I CANNOT unhear now that was mentioned in Jon Matteson's watch part that he is like 2 milliseconds late at 2:57
Oh my god he is.. his voice isn't blending right because of it
3:47 "Don't frighten them Pokey. Especially when it's not true :D"
the dolls aren't their true form...
@@Awelbeckk it was about Pokey saying "Do it, or die", mate.
@@AlinaAniretake Oh OK, got it now.
But I don't get the 'not true' part, then.
If they don't do it, they have no way to get rid of Jagerman, and so ... they die ... rieght ?
@@Awelbeckk I mean - usually, when someone says that, they, usually, mean that not in a way "Something might kill you later", or "You'll not survive without us", but usually it gives off a vibe "If you'll give us nothing - we'll freaking murder you on spot" (which is kind of what I could expect from Lords in Black).
Technically yeah, it's probably IS true, but something tells me, that line gave me the vibe, of it being not on technical level
Could be amazingly wrong, don't worry.
@@Awelbeckk It's unconfirmed iirc if this is his true form, but the president is mostly fine with seeing Wiggly's true form in Black Friday
No one talking about the line “Why help you with the Jagerman when we can help the world”
To me it sounds like their saying we could help you but we could also cause disasters and miracles too
0:52
So I know they are lovecraftian eldritch gods that the can take the shape of anything they want.
But since they’re considered brothers yet blinky and Nibly chose to take on feminine forms, is it safe to head canon that they’re fem boys/gender fluid? ❤
You are what you eat, and Nibbly has eaten a lot of very beautiful Honey Queens.
@@anone.mousse674 true 😅
Considering that their Eldritch Horrors that choose to look however they please, I doubt human concepts of sex and gender apply to the Lords in Black.
@gamingdemigodxiii5630 I would agree but they are very distinctly Brothers and even do have a Sister so gender does exist for them in some capacity at least
@@LovingBallOfApricots I like the idea that at one point Webby was also considered one of their brothers, but when she stopped being evil they decided she wasn't allowed to be a brother anymore and started calling her sister
Is it just me or the part where Wiggly moves Pete's hair while saying "think about it", making steph look at him, is extremely brain tickiling, like- ive tought about this precise scene and how actually perfect it was since ive seen the musical 😭
Tell me im not the only one
I 100% believe the random words in the beginning are the actual names of the lords in black and you can't stop me
Pokotho sounds like Pokey, Nibblelinephym could be the one of the lolipop, Wiggog Wiggog Y'rath is a lot like Wiggly, etc.
Edit: lmao they are I just haven't seen anything from nightmare time whoops
They are!!
They are! They were revealed in the Nightmare Time series
We ain't gonna stop you from speaking truth!
Pokotho - Pokey
Bliklothep - Blinky
T'noy Karaxis - Tinky
Nibblenephim - Nibbly
Wiggog Y'wrath - Wiggly
@@sharoo9913 sorry :,)
I've yet to watch anything from nightmare time (I should get to it) so I didn't know
@@Sidgirl5This musical is what got me into nightmare time!! the good thing is you don't really need to watch in order, I would start with honey queen, people had a hard time with apeman, (i did too at first, good episode but great "first episode" vibes.)
Honesty getting into nightmare time made me really enjoy black friday, loved the music but all the characters felt confusing to keep track of... Now i'm kicking my feet when Gerald shows up
Is any one else obbseessed when the back voices go : la la la la la lala la.
This song seriously reminds me of the random encounters
I watched this scene on loop when it first released
1:46 could steph be a possible honey queen when she grows up (if her interaction with the LIB didn’t happen) because of nibbly taking such interest in her? in nightmare time, nibbly eats the honey queens, and nibbly says “yum yum” at the thought of steph.
Oooo thats such an interesting thought, specially combined with the 'cool as i think i am (reprise)' later in the musical, could show "how far she's willing to go" same with Linda in honey queen (very different motivations but its interesting)
Ill tell my grand children these were the chaos gods
Honestly, when I was watching this I was expecting the Lord in Black and White to be scary or something demonic but I won't lie, they look like teletubbies 😭
well, they lampshade it with the whole "holding court in your own tounge and form" line. even Wiggly warning Pokey against scaring the kids...if they were too frightened, the Lords wouldn' t be able to have FUN. I mean..maybe it's hardwired into the book, but it didn't sound like there were any CONDITIONS included in that spell. They showed up "freindly" becasue they WANTED to. It was a win-win situation for them. Watch Jeagerman run amok? good fun. drag him down to drowsy town instead? JUST as fun. and they got an acolyte out of the deal they can manipulate later. Playing with Steph and Peter was icing on the cake(especially for Tinky), but i suspect Grace was always the real target. Inflate her already overinflated sense of superiority. maybe later on they'll try to sic her on some of the REAL problems they have around town...like the one that keeps resetting the timeline everytime they're about to WIN. Havne't you notice? they always zero in on the people who think they "know better" and can "handle it"
lyrics:
Pikotho
Blikotep
T'noy keraxis
nibblelinephym
wiggog wiggog y'rath
Ah-oh-ah-oh oh
wiggog wiggog y'rath!
Did it work?
Hello, Fwendy-wends
Out of the depths of hell and back
us spawn of the black and white
cover our souls with robes of black
And take up the arms of night
Nibbleine wants his sacrifice
and wiggly wants his wrath
we dance around the pentagram
And take all our kingdoms back
Bubble the spell that gets it done
Babble it on command
wont stop until all the blood is drawn
The lords in black DEMAND!
You summon us once you summon us twice
You gamble it on the roll of the dice
La la la la la
The devil has won it cant be undone
the book has all but closed on your life
(im too lazy to make the rest so here u go :D)
Nibblenephim*
Watched the Hatchedfield previous play (especially Black Friday) reframing this song for me and giving me a very late hype of Wiggly's first appearance.
I'm fuckin too late on the hype, dammit.
is it bad that i find wiggly kinda….
I mean its jon matteson so I understand...
That's just Jon, that's normal.
@@josh___something theres just something about him
Omg I thought it was just me and my weird infatuation with green haired all powerful beings with not good intentions
It’s a Mix of Jon Matteson and The Onceler, I’m not sure how bad that is
Gooooo NiGhThAwKs!! 🤪🤪🤪
Best part
Group halloween costume next year me and who???
I CALL NIBBLY
I call Pokey!!
Dibs on Blinky!
I call Wiggly!!
WHATEVER WE WANT
Is it sad I know every line and speech from this specific song?
What does the Yellow One mean that he's gonna "have the entire set in his toybox"? Where has he encounter others from Peter's family?
In the episode "nightmare time-time bastard"
SPOILER, DO NOT CONTINUE IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE SAD. Also this is a rough summary.
Peter is Ted's (TGWDLM) brother. Before he turned into a sleazeball, he was once a nerd who was in love with a girl. They both liked each other unknowingly, and he was to late to tell her and she went to Clivesdale with another guy since she thought he didn't love her back. Tinky showed Ted a vision of him and the girl getting married. He went to his office, said it feels like the printer is gonna take 80 years to finish printing, and woke up 80 years later. He accidentally killed a cyborg who hates his guts with a futuristic device, then he goes back to his office and recites the day that the girl left for Clivesdale. He knocked past Ted out, beat up the guy the girl was supposed to leave with (who was the cyborg all along), and went to her. He was super sleazy and she was confused. He accidentally kills her with the device. He goes back to the office but couldn't turn back time. Tinky told him he went too far back. His heart broke. Tinky showed him his toybox, and it showed Ted in different timelines suffering endlessly, and this broke Ted's mind. His voice becomes low and he slurs his words. His mind is slow. He's always looking for home. He picks up clothes in the trash. In present day, he is known as the homeless man. "Spare change for the homeless?"
THEORY (with spoiler)
Tinky said Ted went too far back. Why? He went back to 2004. When was Hannah born? 2005. After all, everything leads back to Hannah.
@@emberrain7389 So does this mean Ted getting trapped in past is necessary for all timelines? I might be wrong, but aren't events before Hannah set in stone?
@@emberrain7389it was because Ted went back to before the experiment that allowed him to time travel in the first place had happened.
jon: hello, fwendy-wends!
audience: *SCREAMING INTENSIFIES*
Nibbly needs to calm down
He's just hungry, someone should toss him a snickers or something
All of them do, really
Instead of just seeing this as multiple casting, I like to think of this as The Lords in Black taking the forms of some of the people who have already been killed off/ people who are close to Steph, Pete and Grace
This 0:46 part to this 1:31 is my favourite part of this lyric video
I am so very gay for all of them-
2:54 || that "Whatever we want we want we want," part has been RUINED for me after watching the watch party with Jon and Jeff where Jeff pointed out the Jon is just a *tad* off with his timing (he's like a millisecond behind) 😭 I CANT UNHEAR IT 💀💀💀
Yesss
Jon ❤
Cool! 😎👍🏻
such a fun evil
I don’t know why but the green guy reminds me Mr.9 of One Piece. Please tell me is not my only thought
Oh no... I can't unsee it now
Noooooo I can’t unsee it now 😭 wiggly is Mr 9 now
Well, I can't read your mind, so I don't know if you have any other thoughts. Sorry.
Why is Nibbly’s full name so long tho lol
You mean Nibblenephim?
It's only one letter longer than Tinky and Wiggly's names-
Pokotho - 7
Bliklotep - 9
T'noy Karaxis - 11
Nibblenephim - 12
Wiggog y'rath - 11
2:17
Claim yourself below, I dibs Pokey
I dibs tinky :3
I claim wiggly
*NibbleNEPHIM
Do these guy’s Work for the distant prince?
I don’t know for sure, but they are eldrich beings in the Black and White. My guess is they are his children along with Webby… the lady of Light.
@@moonwalkerangel7008 they probably would have been better summoning huntokar if that’s the case.
one should also point out that they insist on communicating in the form of....a musical. brief spoken dialogue to communicate details interspersed with musical lines to say what they REALLY want. Even the one line about the phone is the LiB (heh, LiBs will be the ruin of the world) unilaterally REFUSING a sincere (if desperate) offer of payment in a manner that blurs the musical and spoken aspects. it doesn't matter if you are a man (or woman) who doens't like musicals...they aren't going anywhere. They're here to stay..and they're HUNGRY.
Holy shit is that Angela from smosh?
yep!!! her acting in the musical is fucking stellar i love her sm
@@sketchingchan I like her in this, but her acting in Black Friday is so much more emotional (excluding horniness because hot zombie boy)
She was actually part of Starkid first lol
@@twist_ending7545 I know love was just kidding
Stephanie yum yum
NGL weirdly turned on by rhat
NGL weirdly turned on when she said that
@@terryjackson-chubick2506 is your name Stephanie by any chance?
@@twist_ending7545 Nope
MY BROTHER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT "THE DARK LORDS" RIGHT WHEN THEY WERE SUCCESSFULLY SUMMONED (HE WAS TALKING ABOUY VEGIETALES OR SOMETHING???)
Cthulhu would turn in his grave if he saw this
yeah cause theyre doing better than hin
Ok, but is it just me. Or was the repetition of the theme alittle annoying? Like. Eh. "WE DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR PHONE!?" was great tho lol.
I really like it! it's like a chant or ritual and it's super stuck in my head
What do you mean?