I wanted to love Arcade, but it has some weird glitchy looping issue. Where a sound will loop as it should for a bar or two without any issues but then out of no where the sample will suddenly stop and play again but not on cue as it should and does with every other plugin I use in FL. It honestly makes no sense! To the point where I'm convinced it's just a bug or that their samples are not the BPM they claim to be. If anyone knows what I'm talking about and has any kind of fix for that problem, please let me know! I'd still love to use it! I've owned it for over a year and literally NEVER touch it because of this looping issue I'm talking about. Further example. Say you have a long drawn out pad kind of sound and you play it from bar 1 through bar 8. It's an 8 bar loop. Well it'll sound great for the first 8 bars, sometimes even the first 16 bars, but then suddenly once the song gets to say bar 33 (the start of a new loop) the loop suddenly shifts and fucks up and because of that, now the sound is no longer at the right BPM with the project. Get my drift? Anyways, help would be lovely! I've been producing beats for 20+ years and have literally produced thousands of instrumentals... it's not like I'm a beginner over here!
I love how you use Output in this video. It's an interesting concept. A VST like Serum gives you a lot more control over the sound but takes longer to get the finished product, whereas Output Arcade gives you quick access to a huge range of sounds with a little less control. However for idiots like me, the level of control that Arcade provides is more than enough. I've let me subscription lapse - I may go back after watching this and being reminded of what it can do.
I'm really liking some other products with similarly-limited primary controls for the same reason. If the sound/instrument player is well designed, the most important controls are mapped to the primary interface and you can tweak everything that most users will need. Plus, there's the option to dig in under the hood if you want. I'm thinking about certain NI and Arturia (and other) instruments that make making music /fun!/ This looks to be in that same vein. So, I wouldn't say that the limited control is for "idiots." They just allow for getting a good result with minimal fussing and fighting.
Does this read my unfinished song adding bass and drums in sync no ducking matching best key harmony melody style genre or it’s just samples and midi software? Why I can’t just use samples and midi for free clicking through just like arcade.
I always appreciate your enthusiasm, Chris! Arcade sounds incredible and a worthwhile addition to an ambient musician's arsenal, but I'm disappointed it's subscription-based.
@@TeslaOsiris I agree with the comment of mister TeslaOsiris that the "subscription-based" can be a turn-off... for me anyways. It's too much demand before the offer... you can both try to convince me if i'm wrong. I just do music and have the possibility to be off line for deep focus. but i might be missing something here. Thanks for your feedback, cause for the process, it's a pretty interesting paradigm. Take care, M
@@martinleduc3210 I agree too many companies trying to force subscriptions they need to offer both, while this does look nice I don't like the forced sub model cloud based type stuff no thanks they need to sell it as a sep plugin and you buy what you need or forget it. Waves tried to go only sub you see how that worked out for them we are tired of subs no one should subscribe then and only then will these companies offer more of a choice one should always have a choice of sub or to buy it out right.
I had the 30day trial and subbed for a months but not really used it back then, think I will re activate it again, the new sounds they added are pretty cool
Love this channel. Following your link there's no indication what's the monthly cost of subscription beyond the trial period. But maybe I'm missing something. Keep on keeping on!
Those patches sound like a sample of anything random with a massive amount of reverb and or delay with some arpeggios here and there. I like there RnB and Hiphop stuff, thats dope and less effects on plugins as possible because I want to put My own effects on them.
Nice stuff. The peak you've given into the library makes it seem like an ambient or drone producer's dream. In some ways, the workflow reminds me of NI's Komplete environment but much better organized. The only thing I don't like is that it becomes yet another subscription. I'd rather either do it like NI or Arturia or even Free To Use Sounds where you buy in at a point and can add a la carte, or choose to upgrade en masse when your needs (and wallet) warrant. I realize that those examples are different products, but they all share a similar business model as far pertaining to sales. And, I do well understand why developers like the subscription model from a business standpoint -- revenue is more consistent so you know where your next peanut butter and jelly sandwich is coming from. Cheers!
You said you were playing in C, but arcade was pitched locked to Fminor....does this mean I can play in any key & arcade will play whatever key is pitched locked? I ask because I can only play in like 4 keys and they're all major. This would be a gamechanger for me, as playing in minor keys & most of the major keys is pretty challenging w/o much music theory knowledge.
Hey, i was thinking, is arcade good for sci fi music, soundtracks , music for games? then i come toyoutube and i saw u did a video on it.... immediately insipred, thank you, i'll resub right now
I used to use Arcade all the time. The sounds are great but there is a biiiiiiiiiiig drawback… If you don’t keep the libraries or your subscription, you are hosed if you ever have to revisit projects. This basically forces you to resample constantly just to have the audio to fall back on. On the whole…I think Native Instruments Expansions are better value and you get to keep all the samples associated with them.
I don't care for Arcade because of a weird looping issue I deal with when I used to try using it, but I'm about 99% sure you keep every sound that you download/use from Arcade even if you decided to no longer pay for your sub!
Thing is that it’s constantly updated with new sounds/samples/loops, so not sure how that would work in a buy one time deal. €10.00 a month isn’t exactly extortionate.
Sure it is. Says so on screen (includes paid promotion) right up front, and he tells you it's a sponsored video. So yeah, it's an ad. But does that really matter? He's upfront about it. One of the differences I've noticed with Chris's videos is that, in a great many cases, he continues to use the products he promotes in subsequent videos and projects. I see so many other channels where the product is on and then gone, never to be seen again.
He doesn’t work for free, dude…he’s getting paid and getting to make the music he loves. Don’t even pretend like you wouldn’t be doing the same thing if given the opportunity.
@@TeslaOsiris you now how toxic this is?! how many people dont need that stuff but get persuated that it is "AwEsOmE" and so on. you damn know it well. what he does is Advertisement with out any critics and that is bad for you and all the other people who watch this. for example its an abo model only benefitting the company, nobody wants that shit but maybe someone gets persuated and thats his fault.
@@uberhannes863 he explicitly stated it was a sponsored video by Output right at the very beginning…this is literally how sponsored content works. The entire platform of UA-cam is built around content sponsorship…and you’re just now bothered by it?! Dude…throw away your phone, smash your TV to pieces…because if you think this small-time advert is “toxic”, you’ll have your head explode the next time you see a “Manscaped” ad on a mainstream channel. Touch grass, bro…seriously. You make it sound like he’s pushing cigarettes, saying it’s his fault if people buy an Arcade subscription. Fun fact: I had an Arcade subscription several times off-and-on. It actually is a great product service that they are constantly updating. You genuinely get your money worth out of the subscription. Is there drawbacks to that model? Of course. That’s not Chris’s or even Output’s fault. Nor is it “toxic” to promote the service…if you get a return on investment out of the subscription, what does it matter? And lastly…no one is forcing you to watch this nor forcing you to subscribe to Arcade. Move on to something else if a simple live service product vexes you that much.
@@TeslaOsiris you mistake sponsoring with bias. Not the same. I sense a lot of bias in this video because it lacks even the slightest bit of critical attitude.
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3:15 My reaction when my wife asks me to turn the football game down 😅
Arcade is so much fun to play around with 🔥 Love the video Chris!
I wanted to love Arcade, but it has some weird glitchy looping issue. Where a sound will loop as it should for a bar or two without any issues
but then out of no where the sample will suddenly stop and play again but not on cue as it should and does with every other plugin I use in FL.
It honestly makes no sense! To the point where I'm convinced it's just a bug or that their samples are not the BPM they claim to be. If anyone
knows what I'm talking about and has any kind of fix for that problem, please let me know! I'd still love to use it! I've owned it for over a year
and literally NEVER touch it because of this looping issue I'm talking about. Further example. Say you have a long drawn out pad kind of
sound and you play it from bar 1 through bar 8. It's an 8 bar loop. Well it'll sound great for the first 8 bars, sometimes even the first 16 bars,
but then suddenly once the song gets to say bar 33 (the start of a new loop) the loop suddenly shifts and fucks up and because of that, now
the sound is no longer at the right BPM with the project. Get my drift? Anyways, help would be lovely! I've been producing beats for 20+
years and have literally produced thousands of instrumentals... it's not like I'm a beginner over here!
resample the midi channel into an audio channel.
I love how you use Output in this video. It's an interesting concept. A VST like Serum gives you a lot more control over the sound but takes longer to get the finished product, whereas Output Arcade gives you quick access to a huge range of sounds with a little less control. However for idiots like me, the level of control that Arcade provides is more than enough. I've let me subscription lapse - I may go back after watching this and being reminded of what it can do.
I'm really liking some other products with similarly-limited primary controls for the same reason. If the sound/instrument player is well designed, the most important controls are mapped to the primary interface and you can tweak everything that most users will need. Plus, there's the option to dig in under the hood if you want. I'm thinking about certain NI and Arturia (and other) instruments that make making music /fun!/ This looks to be in that same vein.
So, I wouldn't say that the limited control is for "idiots." They just allow for getting a good result with minimal fussing and fighting.
Does this read my unfinished song adding bass and drums in sync no ducking matching best key harmony melody style genre or it’s just samples and midi software? Why I can’t just use samples and midi for free clicking through just like arcade.
I always appreciate your enthusiasm, Chris! Arcade sounds incredible and a worthwhile addition to an ambient musician's arsenal, but I'm disappointed it's subscription-based.
It’s basically the Netflix of samples
@@TeslaOsiris I agree with the comment of mister TeslaOsiris that the "subscription-based" can be a turn-off... for me anyways. It's too much demand before the offer... you can both try to convince me if i'm wrong. I just do music and have the possibility to be off line for deep focus.
but i might be missing something here. Thanks for your feedback, cause for the process, it's a pretty interesting paradigm. Take care, M
@@martinleduc3210 I agree too many companies trying to force subscriptions they need to offer both, while this does look nice I don't like the forced sub model cloud based type stuff no thanks they need to sell it as a sep plugin and you buy what you need or forget it. Waves tried to go only sub you see how that worked out for them we are tired of subs no one should subscribe then and only then will these companies offer more of a choice one should always have a choice of sub or to buy it out right.
Ive been using it for a while now and I think it's absolutely worth the price!
I had the 30day trial and subbed for a months but not really used it back then, think I will re activate it again, the new sounds they added are pretty cool
Love this channel. Following your link there's no indication what's the monthly cost of subscription beyond the trial period. But maybe I'm missing something. Keep on keeping on!
Says plans START at $14/month
Cool, Thanks, That Joy in your eyes Are Awesome
Those patches sound like a sample of anything random with a massive amount of reverb and or delay with some arpeggios here and there. I like there RnB and Hiphop stuff, thats dope and less effects on plugins as possible because I want to put My own effects on them.
Nice stuff. The peak you've given into the library makes it seem like an ambient or drone producer's dream. In some ways, the workflow reminds me of NI's Komplete environment but much better organized.
The only thing I don't like is that it becomes yet another subscription. I'd rather either do it like NI or Arturia or even Free To Use Sounds where you buy in at a point and can add a la carte, or choose to upgrade en masse when your needs (and wallet) warrant. I realize that those examples are different products, but they all share a similar business model as far pertaining to sales. And, I do well understand why developers like the subscription model from a business standpoint -- revenue is more consistent so you know where your next peanut butter and jelly sandwich is coming from.
Cheers!
Great insight into Arcade! I might try it during BF. By the way, what Ableton Theme are you using? It's really nice!! 🤩
Thank you so much! I'm using Volatile from livethemes.co
@@s1gns0fl1fe Awesome, thank you and keep up the good work!
You said you were playing in C, but arcade was pitched locked to Fminor....does this mean
I can play in any key & arcade will play whatever key is pitched locked? I ask because I can only play in like 4 keys and they're all major. This would be a gamechanger for me, as playing in minor keys & most of the major keys is pretty challenging w/o much music theory knowledge.
Yes, Arcade makes it super easy to stay in key! Best of luck!
@@s1gns0fl1fe thank youuu
Hey, i was thinking, is arcade good for sci fi music, soundtracks , music for games? then i come toyoutube and i saw u did a video on it.... immediately insipred, thank you, i'll resub right now
I used to use Arcade all the time. The sounds are great but there is a biiiiiiiiiiig drawback…
If you don’t keep the libraries or your subscription, you are hosed if you ever have to revisit projects.
This basically forces you to resample constantly just to have the audio to fall back on.
On the whole…I think Native Instruments Expansions are better value and you get to keep all the samples associated with them.
I don't care for Arcade because of a weird looping issue I deal with when I used to try using it, but I'm about 99%
sure you keep every sound that you download/use from Arcade even if you decided to no longer pay for your sub!
I'd advise when using plugings like this that you stem out and bounce audio and save that.
Sorry, I read in the comments it's subscription based. So, I stop watching.
smart choice! I am with you.
@@do_happywork So am i just say no to any subscription based audio software.
@@vidworxsfx Me to however He did say it was a subscription service.
Thing is that it’s constantly updated with new sounds/samples/loops, so not sure how that would work in a buy one time deal.
€10.00 a month isn’t exactly extortionate.
@@NoLefTurnUnStoned.yeah it’s more than worth it. Arcade is fire
Nice but will never get it a subscription no way
This is great, but let me ask you, how unbiased are you really in this review?
Its not a review its a demonstration of a product.
Lol ok.
🤦🏼 🤡
Info began at 4:42? More of an advert for a narcissist than a showcase. I was really PISSED OFF so I will not be back to your site.
Magnificent Insight for all of us to be further Inspired...
At 6.24 you have a big boogie 👃 up your nose .
I dont give any of these product promoters much weight. Theyre all just paid marketers
Well He didn't really creat anything, He louded some presets and its key locked so lay notes down any random way and it will sound fine.
COoOL
Pass…
over acting .... is good vst but now that woooow efect
Is this a paid ads video? 😢
Feels a little like it, doesn't it?
Sure it is. Says so on screen (includes paid promotion) right up front, and he tells you it's a sponsored video. So yeah, it's an ad. But does that really matter? He's upfront about it.
One of the differences I've noticed with Chris's videos is that, in a great many cases, he continues to use the products he promotes in subsequent videos and projects. I see so many other channels where the product is on and then gone, never to be seen again.
First ❤
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Unsubscribed, too much selling
Guess you expected him to live on your positive vibes?
byyyyyyyyye
@@aquaticborealis4877 Or by selling music he's produced? Like a music producer would?
stop SHILLING !
He doesn’t work for free, dude…he’s getting paid and getting to make the music he loves. Don’t even pretend like you wouldn’t be doing the same thing if given the opportunity.
@@TeslaOsiris you now how toxic this is?! how many people dont need that stuff but get persuated that it is "AwEsOmE" and so on. you damn know it well.
what he does is Advertisement with out any critics and that is bad for you and all the other people who watch this. for example its an abo model only benefitting the company, nobody wants that shit but maybe someone gets persuated and thats his fault.
@@uberhannes863 he explicitly stated it was a sponsored video by Output right at the very beginning…this is literally how sponsored content works.
The entire platform of UA-cam is built around content sponsorship…and you’re just now bothered by it?! Dude…throw away your phone, smash your TV to pieces…because if you think this small-time advert is “toxic”, you’ll have your head explode the next time you see a “Manscaped” ad on a mainstream channel.
Touch grass, bro…seriously. You make it sound like he’s pushing cigarettes, saying it’s his fault if people buy an Arcade subscription. Fun fact: I had an Arcade subscription several times off-and-on. It actually is a great product service that they are constantly updating. You genuinely get your money worth out of the subscription. Is there drawbacks to that model? Of course. That’s not Chris’s or even Output’s fault. Nor is it “toxic” to promote the service…if you get a return on investment out of the subscription, what does it matter?
And lastly…no one is forcing you to watch this nor forcing you to subscribe to Arcade. Move on to something else if a simple live service product vexes you that much.
@@TeslaOsiris you mistake sponsoring with bias. Not the same. I sense a lot of bias in this video because it lacks even the slightest bit of critical attitude.
@@do_happywork Its not a review its a demonstration of a product.
2nd :)
This is an ad. Gross.
Nice ad.
sounds cool. but when I search the website to try and find the subscription cost i am asked for an email. red flag Sub = no thanks
Plans start at $14.99/mo USD.
The plan He shows in $20 a month same as Reason plus.