That character says "Type it up." He was always having her type up his work, actually, often her work with his name on it. Here he's reasserting that. 'You're just a typist.'
Katherine wrote her memoir with her daughter title katherine Johnson where she explains the events from hidden figures. She also noted that she ended up the rest of her career with NASA co authoring many papers with Paul Stanford (Jim Parsons) character. Wonderful book
A wonderful movie - though they took some pretty huge liberties with the history and facts. That said, it's a great tale of a group of extraordinary women who were able to do the impossible!
@@StuttaStuck Because "history" would be a 6-hour movie that no one would watch. Stories are "true" when they convey a "true" message. A textbook has a different goal; but when you keep the truth of the story and fit it into the mold that we all expect stories to be in; then you can bring the truth home to lots more people. No doubt that many people have seen this movie and delved much deeper into the details than you can do in a 98 page script.
@@StuttaStuck Because it is more dramatic to have John Glen stand on the launch pad ready to lift off when Katherine did the final calculation in a hurry, instead of them sitting in a board room after she did the math more than a month before the launch. John Glen did however demand that she check the math of the IBM computer before the lift off, so that was true.
Facts and history sometimes don't convert to a story. The events in large part are true. I want to get this on DVD so I can watch it again and again. It is so important.
@@foamer443 Same on TV shows - especially on the last scene. The music swells and you never hear the actors. It's like the directors think they are making a music video.
FYI, there are school libraries in Florida that have pulled the book Hidden Figures from their shelves, my how far we have come! (That's sarcasm in case it wasn't clear!)
Yeah one of my top 10 for sure. Would love to find time to have a go and re-score some more of the emotional moments from it. Ahhhh, there's never enough time eh
One of the best movies with a truly horrific background...... we all pee the same colour, bleed the same colour, and eventually end up either burnt to a crisp or stuck in a hole in the ground - - - so why does the pigment of skin make a difference??? I'm 57yrs old, and can say with my hand on heart, I've never been able to understand why colour, race, religion or beliefs should have any impact on what one person thinks of another
it's very easy to understand my friend. we have incorporated a tendency by our creater (God) to dominate others, rule them for our benifit. skin colour, physical power, mental power, money, wepons are just tools to achive them. 😢😢😢
Fear. People fear new things, especially when they believe it's going to affect them negatively in any way. That, and the egocentricity that their "we", however define, is better or superior to their "them".
You know mate, I've been on this world 50 years and for the most of that I've been asking the same question. Only answer I have, and it's probably wrong, is "The Arrogance of Bigotry". There is an inherent arrogance in those who believe they are superior to another based on some purely arbitrary physical attribute.
Jim Parsons did a great acting job, wanted to slap the snot out of him from the first scene.. The young lady playing Katherine should of gotten an Oscar for her performance.
Parsons admitted that he had trouble accepting his character (not just because he is the farthest thing from either an engineer or a prejudiced person). Once he was able to accept the function of his character, he realized he was the foil to Taraji Henson's character and he looked forward coming to set every day to "fence" with her. Parsons did add that he grew up in Houston but never had any desire to do anything with NASA.
@@tiagodagostini First comes the differentiation according to physical attributes. After that, observations are made about the relevant differences in capabilities which are correlated to those physical differences.
The entire scene is utterly nonsensical. Who wrote this? Why would there be no way to calculate the transition from an elliptical to a parabolic flight path besides iterative approximation via Euler's approach?
I'm no historian or mathematician but was this kinda of thing a challange back in 1961? I've no idea. Still a great film though, check it out, its so much more about the math
The problem was actually determining the direction to point the thruster to transition from an elliptical orbit to a parabolic re-entry path; they simplified it for the movie. You can read the actual report from the NASA online archives here. ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19980227091/downloads/19980227091.pdf You speed up from an orbit to go closer to the Earth. If you slow down, your orbit widens. Which direction should the thruster point to make the switch from an orbit to a re-entry path? Even without considering atmospheric drag, Coriolis effects, the non-spheroidal shape of the planet, and a maddening miscellany of other factors, the simplest version of the problem is confusing. Orbital mechanics is an intuition-defying subject.
What you are missing is a basic human trait called "fixation bias". Space flight was all new, exciting, and here is the important bit, never been done before. That attitude, results in a fixation that something has never been considered before, which is where this scene comes in. A simple comment, pierces that fixation, allowing the recognition that what they were looking for has nothing to do with space flight, but is just an implementation of concepts thought about decades/centuries before.
You have the conceit of ignorance: there were half a dozen major variables they had to deal with, some of which could be written off, some of which required exponentially-increasing attention, any of which could result in a straight-down, terminal-velocity drop of crispy men & equipment if gotten "wrong." No "Ooops!" here. Your question sounds like "What's so big about the Indy 500? It's "Drive fast, turn left." Nooooo. No, it's not.
Eulers method is a brute force barbaric method that everyone knows. It is only used as a last resort and is tedious not genious. This scene is ridiculous
Why is that? Sometimes brute force is the answer. It’s certainly great when there’s an elegant mathematical solution to a problem., But there isn’t always one. Which is why there’s so many brute force methods.
I also didn't get an idea of this scene. If solution to the problem is numerical approximation there is way better methods developed decades before 1960. Euler's method is so basic so mathematician don't need a book to recall it.
@@55mikeburns More efficient.. no(because you need more computation and on this context of humans doing it by hand that cost a lot) but surely yields better results.
Yeah Warner Von Braun needed a genius black woman to do his math for him. He sent Rockets from Germany to England in 1943. This movie is full of crap and so is Kevin Costner.
She figured it out faster than Sheldon. She must be genius.
Sheldons kind of a big wiener in this movie.
It's a movie.
And it's fake as f*ck
That character says "Type it up." He was always having her type up his work, actually, often her work with his name on it. Here he's reasserting that. 'You're just a typist.'
@@veramae4098 Lady, it's all fake. none of these women did anything to advance space travel.
@samfalcon where did you get that ridiculous opinion?
"for you it is...." Love that comment. Lots of respect in four short words.
Katherine wrote her memoir with her daughter title katherine Johnson where she explains the events from hidden figures. She also noted that she ended up the rest of her career with NASA co authoring many papers with Paul Stanford (Jim Parsons) character. Wonderful book
I never heard any inspirational music when I was doing my math homework.
So, doing your homework was more into "transpiration"?
This score fits the scenes nicely at all action points. Good work!
Thanks so much, I love doing stuff like this. Who knows one day some one might pay me money to do this :D
A wonderful movie - though they took some pretty huge liberties with the history and facts. That said, it's a great tale of a group of extraordinary women who were able to do the impossible!
I get it but why take it from history and twist it. It seems weird right?
@@StuttaStuck Because "history" would be a 6-hour movie that no one would watch. Stories are "true" when they convey a "true" message. A textbook has a different goal; but when you keep the truth of the story and fit it into the mold that we all expect stories to be in; then you can bring the truth home to lots more people. No doubt that many people have seen this movie and delved much deeper into the details than you can do in a 98 page script.
@@StuttaStuck Because it is more dramatic to have John Glen stand on the launch pad ready to lift off when Katherine did the final calculation in a hurry, instead of them sitting in a board room after she did the math more than a month before the launch. John Glen did however demand that she check the math of the IBM computer before the lift off, so that was true.
Facts and history sometimes don't convert to a story. The events in large part are true. I want to get this on DVD so I can watch it again and again. It is so important.
some....lol
Absolutely love this film ❤
The soundtrack is NOT supposed to overpower the lines of the actors.
*gestures at Chris Nolan's movies*
A frequent problem I find. It's like no one actually bothers to watch the whole movie after the last editing decisions have been made.
@@foamer443 Same on TV shows - especially on the last scene. The music swells and you never hear the actors. It's like the directors think they are making a music video.
FYI, there are school libraries in Florida that have pulled the book Hidden Figures from their shelves, my how far we have come! (That's sarcasm in case it wasn't clear!)
WTF?? Because its about intelligent black women?? JFC
FACT CHECK FALSE: Incorrect data.
@@tonyburzio4107 good to know
Love this movie
Yeah one of my top 10 for sure. Would love to find time to have a go and re-score some more of the emotional moments from it.
Ahhhh, there's never enough time eh
I would give a lot to spend some time with her and just geek out on some math.
She is brilliant!
How do you get these unscored scenes?
One of the best movies with a truly horrific background...... we all pee the same colour, bleed the same colour, and eventually end up either burnt to a crisp or stuck in a hole in the ground - - - so why does the pigment of skin make a difference??? I'm 57yrs old, and can say with my hand on heart, I've never been able to understand why colour, race, religion or beliefs should have any impact on what one person thinks of another
Yep with you on that one, wise words my friend
it's very easy to understand my friend. we have incorporated a tendency by our creater (God) to dominate others, rule them for our benifit. skin colour, physical power, mental power, money, wepons are just tools to achive them. 😢😢😢
Fear. People fear new things, especially when they believe it's going to affect them negatively in any way. That, and the egocentricity that their "we", however define, is better or superior to their "them".
You know mate, I've been on this world 50 years and for the most of that I've been asking the same question.
Only answer I have, and it's probably wrong, is "The Arrogance of Bigotry".
There is an inherent arrogance in those who believe they are superior to another based on some purely arbitrary physical attribute.
Well expressed! Couldn’t agree more!
When it comes to math, I'm not fit to shine this ladies shoes!
Wonderful movie, but I don't remember the musical theme getting so loud that you could not hear what they were saying.
Check the title of the video. It's a rescore test. They're checking if a new score for the scene works.
What's the movie name,please? Thank you.
Hidden Figures
You've made the music so loud you can't hear the dialogue!
had to drop out a lot of the dialogue as there was music allready in this scene. Wanted to try this for scoring practice
Mathematics does not lie
Jim Parsons did a great acting job, wanted to slap the snot out of him from the first scene.. The young lady playing Katherine should of gotten an Oscar for her performance.
Such a great film, in my top 10 thats for sure
No problem with her tax returns.
Not to say,
Operations .
eh?
Jim Parsons' character is so insecure.
he does seem to be typecast somewhat.
Isn't insecurity the main cause for the suppression of others?
its Sheldon ofc he is insecure
Parsons admitted that he had trouble accepting his character (not just because he is the farthest thing from either an engineer or a prejudiced person). Once he was able to accept the function of his character, he realized he was the foil to Taraji Henson's character and he looked forward coming to set every day to "fence" with her. Parsons did add that he grew up in Houston but never had any desire to do anything with NASA.
Children are not born seeing differences in skin color as positive or negative, they have to learn that from others.
Wrong. The neuroscientific studies on this are conclusive.
@@dannyarcher6370 that we see different as foreign, not that we see inherent superiority.
@@tiagodagostini First comes the differentiation according to physical attributes. After that, observations are made about the relevant differences in capabilities which are correlated to those physical differences.
this is the sort of movie we need about great woman of color not that Cleopatra garbage.
The were the real equivalents to the real Cleopatra
The entire scene is utterly nonsensical. Who wrote this? Why would there be no way to calculate the transition from an elliptical to a parabolic flight path besides iterative approximation via Euler's approach?
I'm no historian or mathematician but was this kinda of thing a challange back in 1961? I've no idea.
Still a great film though, check it out, its so much more about the math
The problem was actually determining the direction to point the thruster to transition from an elliptical orbit to a parabolic re-entry path; they simplified it for the movie.
You can read the actual report from the NASA online archives here.
ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19980227091/downloads/19980227091.pdf
You speed up from an orbit to go closer to the Earth. If you slow down, your orbit widens. Which direction should the thruster point to make the switch from an orbit to a re-entry path? Even without considering atmospheric drag, Coriolis effects, the non-spheroidal shape of the planet, and a maddening miscellany of other factors, the simplest version of the problem is confusing. Orbital mechanics is an intuition-defying subject.
What you are missing is a basic human trait called "fixation bias".
Space flight was all new, exciting, and here is the important bit, never been done before.
That attitude, results in a fixation that something has never been considered before, which is where this scene comes in.
A simple comment, pierces that fixation, allowing the recognition that what they were looking for has nothing to do with space flight, but is just an implementation of concepts thought about decades/centuries before.
@@petert3355 The point is that Euler's method is not the best solution to the problem as presented here.
You have the conceit of ignorance: there were half a dozen major variables they had to deal with, some of which could be written off, some of which required exponentially-increasing attention, any of which could result in a straight-down, terminal-velocity drop of crispy men & equipment if gotten "wrong." No "Ooops!" here. Your question sounds like "What's so big about the Indy 500? It's "Drive fast, turn left." Nooooo. No, it's not.
the woman is a genius of the practical sort, and the white boy says 'Type it up"
The music cheapens and ruins the scene. Mathematicians are at work and Hollywood turns it into a magarine commercial.
Eulers method is a brute force barbaric method that everyone knows. It is only used as a last resort and is tedious not genious. This scene is ridiculous
Why is that? Sometimes brute force is the answer. It’s certainly great when there’s an elegant mathematical solution to a problem., But there isn’t always one. Which is why there’s so many brute force methods.
Well nowadays it is compeltely valid because computers do not care to be bored.
I also didn't get an idea of this scene. If solution to the problem is numerical approximation there is way better methods developed decades before 1960. Euler's method is so basic so mathematician don't need a book to recall it.
A Runge Kutta method is usually more efficient.
@@55mikeburns More efficient.. no(because you need more computation and on this context of humans doing it by hand that cost a lot) but surely yields better results.
Yeah Warner Von Braun needed a genius black woman to do his math for him. He sent Rockets from Germany to England in 1943. This movie is full of crap and so is Kevin Costner.
I think the UK got the V1 and 2 in 1944
Those were sub-orbital rockets.