Euler's Method scene in Hidden Figures RESCORE TEST

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  • Опубліковано 9 чер 2020
  • Trying out something totally different this time around, loved this film and had a lot of fun trying this out

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  • @solarpunksociety
    @solarpunksociety Рік тому +99

    She figured it out faster than Sheldon. She must be genius.

    • @DoubleDoubleWithOnions
      @DoubleDoubleWithOnions Рік тому

      Sheldons kind of a big wiener in this movie.

    • @samfalcon
      @samfalcon Рік тому

      It's a movie.
      And it's fake as f*ck

    • @veramae4098
      @veramae4098 Рік тому +1

      That character says "Type it up." He was always having her type up his work, actually, often her work with his name on it. Here he's reasserting that. 'You're just a typist.'

    • @samfalcon
      @samfalcon Рік тому

      @@veramae4098 Lady, it's all fake. none of these women did anything to advance space travel.

    • @andrewhawkins8616
      @andrewhawkins8616 Рік тому +3

      @samfalcon where did you get that ridiculous opinion?

  • @flynfishak
    @flynfishak Рік тому +30

    "for you it is...." Love that comment. Lots of respect in four short words.

  • @patriciamcgarr3183
    @patriciamcgarr3183 Рік тому +28

    Katherine wrote her memoir with her daughter title katherine Johnson where she explains the events from hidden figures. She also noted that she ended up the rest of her career with NASA co authoring many papers with Paul Stanford (Jim Parsons) character. Wonderful book

  • @jongilbertson2106
    @jongilbertson2106 Рік тому +30

    I never heard any inspirational music when I was doing my math homework.

    • @muctop17
      @muctop17 Рік тому

      So, doing your homework was more into "transpiration"?

  • @fyiaustralia9686
    @fyiaustralia9686 8 місяців тому +8

    This score fits the scenes nicely at all action points. Good work!

    • @martinsevern2473
      @martinsevern2473  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much, I love doing stuff like this. Who knows one day some one might pay me money to do this :D

  • @StonyRC
    @StonyRC Рік тому +57

    A wonderful movie - though they took some pretty huge liberties with the history and facts. That said, it's a great tale of a group of extraordinary women who were able to do the impossible!

    • @StuttaStuck
      @StuttaStuck Рік тому +2

      I get it but why take it from history and twist it. It seems weird right?

    • @paulpeterson4216
      @paulpeterson4216 Рік тому +12

      @@StuttaStuck Because "history" would be a 6-hour movie that no one would watch. Stories are "true" when they convey a "true" message. A textbook has a different goal; but when you keep the truth of the story and fit it into the mold that we all expect stories to be in; then you can bring the truth home to lots more people. No doubt that many people have seen this movie and delved much deeper into the details than you can do in a 98 page script.

    • @christoffermonikander2200
      @christoffermonikander2200 Рік тому +12

      @@StuttaStuck Because it is more dramatic to have John Glen stand on the launch pad ready to lift off when Katherine did the final calculation in a hurry, instead of them sitting in a board room after she did the math more than a month before the launch. John Glen did however demand that she check the math of the IBM computer before the lift off, so that was true.

    • @ronaldbose9645
      @ronaldbose9645 Рік тому +3

      Facts and history sometimes don't convert to a story. The events in large part are true. I want to get this on DVD so I can watch it again and again. It is so important.

    • @BillBarr4President
      @BillBarr4President Рік тому

      some....lol

  • @davidhawkins8830
    @davidhawkins8830 3 дні тому

    Absolutely love this film ❤

  • @chrispile3878
    @chrispile3878 Рік тому +14

    The soundtrack is NOT supposed to overpower the lines of the actors.

    • @timmie2k3
      @timmie2k3 Рік тому

      *gestures at Chris Nolan's movies*

    • @foamer443
      @foamer443 Рік тому +1

      A frequent problem I find. It's like no one actually bothers to watch the whole movie after the last editing decisions have been made.

    • @chrispile3878
      @chrispile3878 Рік тому

      @@foamer443 Same on TV shows - especially on the last scene. The music swells and you never hear the actors. It's like the directors think they are making a music video.

  • @bluekitty3731
    @bluekitty3731 Рік тому +6

    FYI, there are school libraries in Florida that have pulled the book Hidden Figures from their shelves, my how far we have come! (That's sarcasm in case it wasn't clear!)

  • @SerenaHSerena77Elvis2
    @SerenaHSerena77Elvis2 Рік тому +7

    Love this movie

    • @martinsevern2473
      @martinsevern2473  Рік тому

      Yeah one of my top 10 for sure. Would love to find time to have a go and re-score some more of the emotional moments from it.
      Ahhhh, there's never enough time eh

  • @andrewhawkins8616
    @andrewhawkins8616 Рік тому +3

    I would give a lot to spend some time with her and just geek out on some math.

  • @gregking7926
    @gregking7926 9 днів тому

    She is brilliant!

  • @andrelousada
    @andrelousada Рік тому +1

    How do you get these unscored scenes?

  • @gggggggg3542
    @gggggggg3542 Рік тому +87

    One of the best movies with a truly horrific background...... we all pee the same colour, bleed the same colour, and eventually end up either burnt to a crisp or stuck in a hole in the ground - - - so why does the pigment of skin make a difference??? I'm 57yrs old, and can say with my hand on heart, I've never been able to understand why colour, race, religion or beliefs should have any impact on what one person thinks of another

    • @martinsevern2473
      @martinsevern2473  Рік тому +3

      Yep with you on that one, wise words my friend

    • @rajktewari
      @rajktewari Рік тому +2

      it's very easy to understand my friend. we have incorporated a tendency by our creater (God) to dominate others, rule them for our benifit. skin colour, physical power, mental power, money, wepons are just tools to achive them. 😢😢😢

    • @subbywan1422
      @subbywan1422 Рік тому +2

      Fear. People fear new things, especially when they believe it's going to affect them negatively in any way. That, and the egocentricity that their "we", however define, is better or superior to their "them".

    • @petert3355
      @petert3355 Рік тому +5

      You know mate, I've been on this world 50 years and for the most of that I've been asking the same question.
      Only answer I have, and it's probably wrong, is "The Arrogance of Bigotry".
      There is an inherent arrogance in those who believe they are superior to another based on some purely arbitrary physical attribute.

    • @dh3279
      @dh3279 Рік тому

      Well expressed! Couldn’t agree more!

  • @stevep5408
    @stevep5408 11 днів тому

    When it comes to math, I'm not fit to shine this ladies shoes!

  • @josephhoffman3995
    @josephhoffman3995 Рік тому +2

    Wonderful movie, but I don't remember the musical theme getting so loud that you could not hear what they were saying.

    • @TheOnceandFutureJake
      @TheOnceandFutureJake Рік тому

      Check the title of the video. It's a rescore test. They're checking if a new score for the scene works.

  • @mariaciorascu6763
    @mariaciorascu6763 9 днів тому +1

    What's the movie name,please? Thank you.

  • @lorettadeloggio5148
    @lorettadeloggio5148 Рік тому +4

    You've made the music so loud you can't hear the dialogue!

    • @martinsevern2473
      @martinsevern2473  Рік тому

      had to drop out a lot of the dialogue as there was music allready in this scene. Wanted to try this for scoring practice

  • @barbararicciuto-ns4xl
    @barbararicciuto-ns4xl 11 днів тому

    Mathematics does not lie

  • @davessmallengineandwelding8453
    @davessmallengineandwelding8453 7 днів тому

    Jim Parsons did a great acting job, wanted to slap the snot out of him from the first scene.. The young lady playing Katherine should of gotten an Oscar for her performance.

  • @foamer443
    @foamer443 Рік тому +1

    No problem with her tax returns.

  • @matthewmc4363
    @matthewmc4363 Рік тому

    Not to say,
    Operations .

  • @dobazajr
    @dobazajr Рік тому +6

    Jim Parsons' character is so insecure.

    • @craigmcfly
      @craigmcfly Рік тому +1

      he does seem to be typecast somewhat.

    • @belacqua2424
      @belacqua2424 Рік тому +2

      Isn't insecurity the main cause for the suppression of others?

    • @arnavverma2135
      @arnavverma2135 Рік тому

      its Sheldon ofc he is insecure

    • @jamesrawlins735
      @jamesrawlins735 Рік тому

      Parsons admitted that he had trouble accepting his character (not just because he is the farthest thing from either an engineer or a prejudiced person). Once he was able to accept the function of his character, he realized he was the foil to Taraji Henson's character and he looked forward coming to set every day to "fence" with her. Parsons did add that he grew up in Houston but never had any desire to do anything with NASA.

  • @mrgreene3290
    @mrgreene3290 Рік тому +9

    Children are not born seeing differences in skin color as positive or negative, they have to learn that from others.

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 Рік тому +1

      Wrong. The neuroscientific studies on this are conclusive.

    • @tiagodagostini
      @tiagodagostini Рік тому +2

      @@dannyarcher6370 that we see different as foreign, not that we see inherent superiority.

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 Рік тому

      @@tiagodagostini First comes the differentiation according to physical attributes. After that, observations are made about the relevant differences in capabilities which are correlated to those physical differences.

  • @TheWareek
    @TheWareek Рік тому +4

    this is the sort of movie we need about great woman of color not that Cleopatra garbage.

    • @alfaeco15
      @alfaeco15 Рік тому

      The were the real equivalents to the real Cleopatra

  • @cush6827
    @cush6827 Рік тому +8

    The entire scene is utterly nonsensical. Who wrote this? Why would there be no way to calculate the transition from an elliptical to a parabolic flight path besides iterative approximation via Euler's approach?

    • @martinsevern2473
      @martinsevern2473  Рік тому +3

      I'm no historian or mathematician but was this kinda of thing a challange back in 1961? I've no idea.
      Still a great film though, check it out, its so much more about the math

    • @addman
      @addman Рік тому

      The problem was actually determining the direction to point the thruster to transition from an elliptical orbit to a parabolic re-entry path; they simplified it for the movie.
      You can read the actual report from the NASA online archives here.
      ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19980227091/downloads/19980227091.pdf
      You speed up from an orbit to go closer to the Earth. If you slow down, your orbit widens. Which direction should the thruster point to make the switch from an orbit to a re-entry path? Even without considering atmospheric drag, Coriolis effects, the non-spheroidal shape of the planet, and a maddening miscellany of other factors, the simplest version of the problem is confusing. Orbital mechanics is an intuition-defying subject.

    • @petert3355
      @petert3355 Рік тому +11

      What you are missing is a basic human trait called "fixation bias".
      Space flight was all new, exciting, and here is the important bit, never been done before.
      That attitude, results in a fixation that something has never been considered before, which is where this scene comes in.
      A simple comment, pierces that fixation, allowing the recognition that what they were looking for has nothing to do with space flight, but is just an implementation of concepts thought about decades/centuries before.

    • @cush6827
      @cush6827 Рік тому +2

      @@petert3355 The point is that Euler's method is not the best solution to the problem as presented here.

    • @thomasmcginnis3783
      @thomasmcginnis3783 Рік тому +9

      You have the conceit of ignorance: there were half a dozen major variables they had to deal with, some of which could be written off, some of which required exponentially-increasing attention, any of which could result in a straight-down, terminal-velocity drop of crispy men & equipment if gotten "wrong." No "Ooops!" here. Your question sounds like "What's so big about the Indy 500? It's "Drive fast, turn left." Nooooo. No, it's not.

  • @henrimatisse7481
    @henrimatisse7481 Рік тому

    the woman is a genius of the practical sort, and the white boy says 'Type it up"

  • @flo2348
    @flo2348 Рік тому

    The music cheapens and ruins the scene. Mathematicians are at work and Hollywood turns it into a magarine commercial.

  • @kenshikenji
    @kenshikenji Рік тому +11

    Eulers method is a brute force barbaric method that everyone knows. It is only used as a last resort and is tedious not genious. This scene is ridiculous

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 Рік тому +4

      Why is that? Sometimes brute force is the answer. It’s certainly great when there’s an elegant mathematical solution to a problem., But there isn’t always one. Which is why there’s so many brute force methods.

    • @tiagodagostini
      @tiagodagostini Рік тому +6

      Well nowadays it is compeltely valid because computers do not care to be bored.

    • @veteransniper6955
      @veteransniper6955 Рік тому +7

      I also didn't get an idea of this scene. If solution to the problem is numerical approximation there is way better methods developed decades before 1960. Euler's method is so basic so mathematician don't need a book to recall it.

    • @55mikeburns
      @55mikeburns Рік тому +2

      A Runge Kutta method is usually more efficient.

    • @tiagodagostini
      @tiagodagostini Рік тому

      @@55mikeburns More efficient.. no(because you need more computation and on this context of humans doing it by hand that cost a lot) but surely yields better results.

  • @anthonymestichelli9979
    @anthonymestichelli9979 Рік тому +1

    Yeah Warner Von Braun needed a genius black woman to do his math for him. He sent Rockets from Germany to England in 1943. This movie is full of crap and so is Kevin Costner.

    • @nigec3971
      @nigec3971 Рік тому

      I think the UK got the V1 and 2 in 1944

    • @justj11061
      @justj11061 20 днів тому

      Those were sub-orbital rockets.