Carl Upthegrove Most important are drum heads and tuning techniques. Throw a cheap or worn out set of heads on a vintage set and it sounds like crap, just like a less expensive set with bad heads. Throw a set of new/name brand heads on either set and they sound better.
I have a 1966 Ludwig super classic in mahogany just like yours except in champagne sparkle. Love that kit so much! Just last week I got a Slingerland Radio King with mahogany shells from 1960 in Blue sparkle. Mine is a 22” kick not 24” like yours. I’m really enjoying that kit as well. This video helped me decide to go ahead and get it! Thank you so much!!!
Anyone else a little surprised how well the vistalite recorded? Especially the kick sounded nice and thumpy to me, that being said all the kits here are AWESOME. great video guys 👍🏼
WOW! I really enjoyed this video. It is great to be able to hear the different vintage kits next to each other & the background info is interesting. Thank you VERY MUCH for making this video. Now I know that there are two more drum sets I must add to my collection - Sonor with beech wood & Ludwig vistalite.
11:26 Radio King 1948 11:32 Sound Kind 1972 11:37 Ludwig Super Classic 1967 11:43 Ludwig Vistalite 1976 11:50 Swingstar late 60's 11:57 Sonor Champion 70's
I had as my gigging kit for the entirety of the 80s and into the early 90s my dad's Slingerland Radio Kings that he bought used in 1952. They're a little beat up and I don't play out with them anymore but they still sound great.
Did standard Remo heads fit easily on the 1972 Slingerland kit? I'm looking to get a late 1960s Slingerland Modern Jazz kit but not sure if I will need classic fit heads to accommodate the potentially larger shells? Sometimes it sucks to tune them when the head won't seat easily on the edge.
From my experience people don’t give slingerlands enough credit, especially their 70s stuff. Their hoops make them harder to tune but once you get how to seat them flat they sound great. Also, hands down best bass drums.
Excellent video. It would be nice to see you demonstrate 1960’s drum sets from Gretsch,Ludwig Rogers and Slingerland with 18,12,1,4 jazz sizes. Also could you’d do a video of all the companies besides Sonor that built marching drums for the Wehrmacht,Luftwaffe,HJ, and SS marching bands? I have seen these drums with their painted rims and it seems sometimes the different colors of the triangles on the wood or metal rims was for a different branch of the German military. Thanks again.
I love Ludwig, and I'm actually a Sonor guy, but that Slingerland Radio King....😲 is just insane..However, if I was to leave with a kit from this comparison, it would be the Sonor .. Great video comparison, and everything was extremely well done. Cheers 👍
Wow, incredibaly nice video, thanks - must have been a work 👌 All the kits sound great, which leads me to believe that factors like heads, tuning, recording technique etc. have a maybe bigger impact on the sound than the shells´ wood, lugs or coating. Would have been nice with a description of the bearing edge shapes of the different kits, not easy to determine from the pics. Apart from the kits sounding surprisingly equal (good), the Vistalites differ a bit, I think + the Sonor; FT especially as well as the Bassdrum, - had the Sonor-kit just had a 13" Tom..:)
@@kyckyckyc5428 Yes it is. The shells are slightly oversized that's why the classic Remo Powertroke 3 doesn't fit. I have to check out the new classic fit heads though. They might work :-)
My first Drum that I learned on seems to be a Sonor (Super) Champion from 1973 that my Grandpa (former musician) gave to me piece by piece as birthday and christmas presents. Sadly it doesn't have the original Bassdrum. I know got the chance to get my hands on a matching 22 Basedrum also from 1973 from the Champion (not Super Champion) line - what lets me think of getting the Kit back to use. Would you advice to get a not 100% Matching Kick to complete such a historic set?
Look for the Sonor "Action" line of vintage drums, they're not that expensive (yet) and they use the exact same shells as the champion and teardrop lines. They were the cheaper entry line from Sonor at the same time as your Super (1972-78) which was upper mid range but Sonor used the same shells for all three models, just different finish, hardware and hole spacing for the lug mounts on some models but the shells were all the same. Those Action kits are often used to restore Teardrop kits with if a tom is damaged beyond repair due to having the same shells so i think that would be your best and most authentic option for the kit you have without having to sell your organs to pay for it. Whole "Action" kits go for as low as 100-150$, you only need a basdrum so with some patience i think you could pick up a "less than pretty" one for about 50-70$ Champion basdrum lugs may be different than the Action kits depending on the exact year but you could easily swap those out if you can find the original Champion lugs online or at a parts store that deal in vintage parts.
@@tuonglukim8973 hey man - thank you for that detailed response! It was really interesting to read! However I already got a matching Superchampion Bassdrum in 22" (180€) that I then cleaned and polished. To be honest with you: I love my "new" Superchampion set allot. I use it to record and I even thing it sounds better then my Gretsch new Classic Set that I used to play on. So I will probably use the Gretsch for gigging and the Sonor for recording! If you are interested in the kit - I got some posts on my Instagram (@max_k_drums) - feel free to check it out. Also I really appreciate your advice with the shells. However I think it is in total more expensive to buy new lugs and stuff for since one lug is dealed at about 10€ in GER a bassdrum with 8 lugs would then cost 160€ for the lugs alone...so I am pretty happy with my current deal :)
@@max_k_drums7276 Your welcome buddy, glad you found a suitable bassdrum. Ow wow, that IS good, lots of good drums around but beating a Gretch is rare! I don't have instagram but i'll try and take a look, you don't have to be logged in right? Yeah you're probably right money wise but you'd have to be lucky to find someone who's willing to part with the bassdrum of their champion, might you need parts in the future look up Cleassen drums in the Netherlands.... he's a Sonor specialist and might be a little cheaper.... especially if you have something rare and you get him excited about it.
@@tuonglukim8973 thanks man! I don't know if you have to be logged in tbh. - I was very lucky finding a dealer who had that Bassdrum as a separate part! Bought it in the region of Saarland - awesome dude - he helped me out really well and also gave me Tips on how to restore that beauty! Also I am very glad that I can now play the kit my grandpa once gave to me. Sadly he is not alive anymore - but with that kit - he got me started playing the drums. So it's a special memory for me :D I also got an old trixon snaredrum from him - but sadly there are parts missing all over the place lol
@@max_k_drums7276 YW Yeah, no showing without logging in, will have to make an Instagram account tonight cause i'm quite curious. That is indeed very lucky! You're from Germany i assume? Saarland was a town or region in Germany if i remember my middle school topography correctly. I own 5 drumkits at the moment, 2001 Tama Rockstar 22-14-12-10-14sn Made in Taiwan 1982 Tama Imperialstar 22-13-16-14sn (kingbeat snare) Made in Japan. 1986 Tama Swingstar diy bop-jazz kit 18-12-15-14sn (royal star snare) Made in Japan. I made this with parts i had left over from a broken kit and some shells from the Imp i wasn't using. A diy cafe kit with a 16-13-10-12n made from Pearl "stencil" brand parts.... i call it the "Fakebeats"... get it? Most of the parts are Taiwanese on this one and it was a hell of a lot of fun building it. Fun fact the two DIY kits are the exact same size ratios just scaled up 2 inches. And last but not least, a late 1960's Tromsa kit 20-12-16-14sn That snare is the fucking bomb i kid you not, chrome over brass shell. 10 lugs and a parallel throw off.
All the drums sound great..very little difference to my ear given the equal tuning of them and same head selection. The Ludwig Vistalite drums do have a noticeable difference from the wood-shell drums but still a pleasant sound. Speaking of 1960's-1970's Japanese 'import' drums: I had a five-piece 'Whitehall' brand drum set which was my first 'real' drum set which I purchased back in 1971: turns out they were actually a private-brand set made by Pearl. They were excellent drums (aside from some of the hardware which was minimal quality); they were in a sort of 'white onyx' wrap finish with black striations (sort of a reverse of black onyx); quite a unique and nice looking finish. Wish I still had them as the later 'Whitehall' brand drums weren't nearly as well made as the earlier ones. Be that as it may, I have a weakness for all 'vintage' drums and this was a fun video to watch. Only thing is: too bad no Rogers drums in this video. Surely no vintage drum collection is complete without USA-made Rogers drums from the late 1950's through 1970's period.
Honestly, a one off listen with all the drums miced up is a bit like splitting hairs and comes down to a personal preference. They all sounded okay and you can make any drum sound reasonable given the time to do so. The rest comes down to the quality of the build.
4:55 No man! It's the same thing in the end but it's the other way: Slingerland Radio King shells were similar to Ludwig ones, Ludwig&Ludwig starting the manufacturing of mahogany-poplar-mahogany with maple re-rings shells around 1924. Back then Slingerland was exclusively into banjos and ukuleles.
No wonder Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa, loved the Slingerland Radio Kings.. I have the Slingerland Sound Kings and mahogany Ludwig Super Classic ...both great kits.
Strange that my favorite kit is the swingstars then again I prefer the sound and liveliness of smaller sizes which they were so that might have helped. After those the Ludwig super classics for me.
Every single one of these drum kits sounds 100 times better than the new mass produced garbage today. That goes for the drums and the music these days. That Sonor kit (as always) sounds better and warmer than everything else.
Man amazing video! The swing star surprised me a lot but nothing equal the tone of the superclassic (my number one favorite) Can’t wait for a second volume with Gretsch/Rogers/Camco/ Premier or Olympic/Berverly/Ajax 😉 How do you tune your drums, I would to know how you can reach all this low end with a little kit like the swing star and how about the others kits?
Yeah, dream video, well done. Love all those kits, have played a couple of them, the Sonor I played once was a Phonic in standard rock sizes with natural finish, great fun. What makes it different from this kit?
What a great video. And what a lot of cool gear. I'm not jealous at all... Thanks for all the info, and thanks for sharing. BTW, what's the little metal doodad on the snare rim?
I don't think the quality of the Japanese kits was sometimes bad. All the vintage MIJ kits I've seen have been no worse than American made stuff. In fact I have seen many ludwig shells with seperations. Can't say the same for MIJ.
I think the old drums are better. More Character just like antique cars. Better Looking and Cooler than the mass produced things and no 2 kits of same model and size sounded identical. They All had personality.
And if you had tested any snare drum or set of CAMCO OAKLAWN DRUMS in any size... hands down... they would have been overall the best looking, the best made and the best sounding and the highest price.
Pretty interesting. Sonor has that typical short note on toms that is still their signature sound, while the Tama-predecessor is just the opposite, a wide open singing, almost barking tom sound, that you can still hear today with Tama drums. And those Slingerland Sound King and Ludwig Superclassic toms are sonically not that distinct. Surprise surprise...
I wish I still had my first drum set from 35 years ago...with my current knowledge,that is. It was a Majestic. It was gorgeous but I had little knowledge of drums. I was 11. It was from a pawn shop and came with a broken Ludwig Speed King pedal.. I went through so many clothes hangers on that pedal,being 11 and not knowing how to fix it. I was dismissive of those Majestics,considering how horrible CB 700’s were as a replacement. 20/20 hindsight.
Nice!Of course,British drums would have been nice also.but they deserve their own vidéo,lol.I am just being chauvinist,I collect British drums only now.Thanks for that video.
Slingerlands always sound so freaking good. There's just something magical about those drums.
The '48 Radio King sounds amazing!! My personal choice
The big surprise for me was the SwingStar.... they really sounded quite good for a "cheap" Japanese kit.... Thanks for this great video
Carl Upthegrove Most important are drum heads and tuning techniques. Throw a cheap or worn out set of heads on a vintage set and it sounds like crap, just like a less expensive set with bad heads. Throw a set of new/name brand heads on either set and they sound better.
I thought they sounded best...they'd sit so easily in a mix.
Yeah, I noticed that too!!
It’s crazy what you can get away with cheaper drums and good heads/tuning.
@@nathanzaworski2780 But it's much harder to get "cheap" snare drums to sound like the traditional ones that we all know and love!
maybe the best sounding Vistalites i've ever heard. and those Swingstars sound straight-up amazing
Agreed
The Ludwig Super Classics and the 60's Slingerlands are my favs. The Sonor kit also sounded awesome.
Thanks! :-)
My choice, 1967 Ludwig Super Classic 22“ x 14“, 13“ x 9“, 16“ x 16“ in Blue Oyster Pearl
Me too! You can tell the big difference.
I have a 1966 Ludwig super classic in mahogany just like yours except in champagne sparkle. Love that kit so much! Just last week I got a Slingerland Radio King with mahogany shells from 1960 in Blue sparkle. Mine is a 22” kick not 24” like yours. I’m really enjoying that kit as well. This video helped me decide to go ahead and get it! Thank you so much!!!
Gretsch has a long history. You should include them
We are planning to do a second part.
@@DrumsBonedo That is fantastic! I can't wait!
Maybe "Drums Bonedo" wants to restrict his comparison to companies that actually made their own drum shells?
Big time
That swingstar bassdrum... It's just sooo nice!
Anyone else a little surprised how well the vistalite recorded? Especially the kick sounded nice and thumpy to me, that being said all the kits here are AWESOME. great video guys 👍🏼
thanks!
WOW! I really enjoyed this video. It is great to be able to hear the different vintage kits next to each other & the background info is interesting. Thank you VERY MUCH for making this video. Now I know that there are two more drum sets I must add to my collection - Sonor with beech wood & Ludwig vistalite.
11:26 Radio King 1948
11:32 Sound Kind 1972
11:37 Ludwig Super Classic 1967
11:43 Ludwig Vistalite 1976
11:50 Swingstar late 60's
11:57 Sonor Champion 70's
I have been a drummer for about 50 years, I have a set of 1970 vintage Rogers. To me all the kits sound very similar, but great video.
playing 55 years and YES I agree .. if you know how to tune drums and pick the right heads - you can make a cheap set sound good
Man, that is a sweet collection of drums! Great comparisons! Cheers
Great content, I absolutely love vintage drums, this professional presentation really let them shine.
Cooles Video, sehr aufschlußreich!
Aber die Sitzposition ist mit das seltsamste was ich im Schlagzeugbereich je gesehen habe :D
not only you have wonderful drum kits here, but they are also mic'ed and mixed really well!
The Slingerland kit sounds really very nice. I like !
awesome job, loved the RK's - hand crafted with quality, other than the vistalite you really got "your" sound out of all them.
The Super Classic and Sound King for me. The Swingstar also sounded surprisingly good!
I loved the Radioking, Super Classic, and Swingstar best
Thank you so much for this impressive presentation! Very well done, great explanations, fat sound! Love it. :-)
I like that you are using a stand for the tom
The 1972 Slingerland Sound King was my favorite with the 1967 Ludwig Super Classic as a very close second. However, I love that Sonor bass drum.
Love the 67 Ludwigs. I have the same they are awesome in the studio. Also, that 13" vistalite tom is a goodie.
I actually liked them all
cool studio. and the late 60s swingstar sounds awsome!
I had as my gigging kit for the entirety of the 80s and into the early 90s my dad's Slingerland Radio Kings that he bought used in 1952. They're a little beat up and I don't play out with them anymore but they still sound great.
incredible collection of kits! impressed af. all of them sound amazing. especially the radio king was killin me. thanks for this well produced video.
Markus Axt Dankeschön
That vistalite bass drum is killer
Did standard Remo heads fit easily on the 1972 Slingerland kit? I'm looking to get a late 1960s Slingerland Modern Jazz kit but not sure if I will need classic fit heads to accommodate the potentially larger shells? Sometimes it sucks to tune them when the head won't seat easily on the edge.
From my experience people don’t give slingerlands enough credit, especially their 70s stuff. Their hoops make them harder to tune but once you get how to seat them flat they sound great. Also, hands down best bass drums.
Just don't use Slingeland's Set-o-Matic tom holder (see above-noted comment).
Fantastic video. Great recording, tuning, and playing. All these kits sound sublime
Excellent video. It would be nice to see you demonstrate 1960’s drum sets from Gretsch,Ludwig Rogers and Slingerland with 18,12,1,4 jazz sizes. Also could you’d do a video of all the companies besides Sonor that built marching drums for the Wehrmacht,Luftwaffe,HJ, and SS marching bands? I have seen these drums with their painted rims and it seems sometimes the different colors of the triangles on the wood or metal rims was for a different branch of the German military. Thanks again.
I love Ludwig, and I'm actually a Sonor guy, but that Slingerland Radio King....😲 is just insane..However, if I was to leave with a kit from this comparison, it would be the Sonor ..
Great video comparison, and everything was extremely well done. Cheers 👍
Swingstar was my favorite! Wow.
Incredible video....thanks. Please do more like this👍🏻
This video is fantastic! I kinda wish the bass drums where opened up just a bit but wow everything sounded great.
Amazing drums, and very well recorded. I think I'll take the Sonor, thanks :)
Great demo! Wish you had a Rogers in there.
It's on our bucket list for the next one...
wow, what a great video, wonderful kits and great recording setup
Surprisingly, I thought the Sonor's sounded the worst. The Radio Kings were the sweetest to me. Very nice overtones on the toms.
How do you do a vintage kit comparison without a Rogers? There's always someone nearby with a Rogers
Excellent video! Interesting historical facts I did not know about. I liked the Ludwig Vistalite set the best.
Wow, incredibaly nice video, thanks - must have been a work 👌
All the kits sound great, which leads me to believe that factors like heads, tuning, recording technique etc. have a maybe bigger impact on the sound than the shells´ wood, lugs or coating. Would have been nice with a description of the bearing edge shapes of the different kits, not easy to determine from the pics.
Apart from the kits sounding surprisingly equal (good), the Vistalites differ a bit, I think + the Sonor; FT especially as well as the Bassdrum, - had the Sonor-kit just had a 13" Tom..:)
All these are awesome sounding drums, each with it's unique sound. Love the tone of the radio kings.
thanks!
awesome! what head is on slingerland radio king kick? i jsaw just evans logo...
Hi, I think it's an EMAD.
@@DrumsBonedo thanks!
@@kyckyckyc5428 Yes it is. The shells are slightly oversized that's why the classic Remo Powertroke 3 doesn't fit. I have to check out the new classic fit heads though. They might work :-)
Thank yoiu for that very interesting video. It would also be interesting to compare new with vintage drums.
Thanx a lot! Really amazing job! Actually all of them sounds fantastic in your gold hands! :)
My first Drum that I learned on seems to be a Sonor (Super) Champion from 1973 that my Grandpa (former musician) gave to me piece by piece as birthday and christmas presents. Sadly it doesn't have the original Bassdrum. I know got the chance to get my hands on a matching 22 Basedrum also from 1973 from the Champion (not Super Champion) line - what lets me think of getting the Kit back to use. Would you advice to get a not 100% Matching Kick to complete such a historic set?
Look for the Sonor "Action" line of vintage drums, they're not that expensive (yet) and they use the exact same shells as the champion and teardrop lines.
They were the cheaper entry line from Sonor at the same time as your Super (1972-78) which was upper mid range but Sonor used the same shells for all three models, just different finish, hardware and hole spacing for the lug mounts on some models but the shells were all the same.
Those Action kits are often used to restore Teardrop kits with if a tom is damaged beyond repair due to having the same shells so i think that would be your best and most authentic option for the kit you have without having to sell your organs to pay for it.
Whole "Action" kits go for as low as 100-150$, you only need a basdrum so with some patience i think you could pick up a "less than pretty" one for about 50-70$
Champion basdrum lugs may be different than the Action kits depending on the exact year but you could easily swap those out if you can find the original Champion lugs online or at a parts store that deal in vintage parts.
@@tuonglukim8973 hey man - thank you for that detailed response! It was really interesting to read! However I already got a matching Superchampion Bassdrum in 22" (180€) that I then cleaned and polished. To be honest with you: I love my "new" Superchampion set allot. I use it to record and I even thing it sounds better then my Gretsch new Classic Set that I used to play on. So I will probably use the Gretsch for gigging and the Sonor for recording! If you are interested in the kit - I got some posts on my Instagram (@max_k_drums) - feel free to check it out.
Also I really appreciate your advice with the shells. However I think it is in total more expensive to buy new lugs and stuff for since one lug is dealed at about 10€ in GER a bassdrum with 8 lugs would then cost 160€ for the lugs alone...so I am pretty happy with my current deal :)
@@max_k_drums7276 Your welcome buddy, glad you found a suitable bassdrum.
Ow wow, that IS good, lots of good drums around but beating a Gretch is rare!
I don't have instagram but i'll try and take a look, you don't have to be logged in right?
Yeah you're probably right money wise but you'd have to be lucky to find someone who's willing to part with the bassdrum of their champion, might you need parts in the future look up Cleassen drums in the Netherlands.... he's a Sonor specialist and might be a little cheaper.... especially if you have something rare and you get him excited about it.
@@tuonglukim8973 thanks man! I don't know if you have to be logged in tbh. - I was very lucky finding a dealer who had that Bassdrum as a separate part! Bought it in the region of Saarland - awesome dude - he helped me out really well and also gave me Tips on how to restore that beauty! Also I am very glad that I can now play the kit my grandpa once gave to me. Sadly he is not alive anymore - but with that kit - he got me started playing the drums. So it's a special memory for me :D
I also got an old trixon snaredrum from him - but sadly there are parts missing all over the place lol
@@max_k_drums7276 YW
Yeah, no showing without logging in, will have to make an Instagram account tonight cause i'm quite curious.
That is indeed very lucky! You're from Germany i assume? Saarland was a town or region in Germany if i remember my middle school topography correctly.
I own 5 drumkits at the moment,
2001 Tama Rockstar 22-14-12-10-14sn Made in Taiwan
1982 Tama Imperialstar 22-13-16-14sn (kingbeat snare) Made in Japan.
1986 Tama Swingstar diy bop-jazz kit 18-12-15-14sn (royal star snare) Made in Japan.
I made this with parts i had left over from a broken kit and some shells from the Imp i wasn't using.
A diy cafe kit with a 16-13-10-12n made from Pearl "stencil" brand parts.... i call it the "Fakebeats"... get it?
Most of the parts are Taiwanese on this one and it was a hell of a lot of fun building it.
Fun fact the two DIY kits are the exact same size ratios just scaled up 2 inches.
And last but not least, a late 1960's Tromsa kit 20-12-16-14sn
That snare is the fucking bomb i kid you not, chrome over brass shell. 10 lugs and a parallel throw off.
Swingstar and sonor bass drums sound amazing!
Great comparison. Nicely done
The sonor set sounds amazing
Please do it again with different tunes: low, medium, high. Thanks!
All the drums sound great..very little difference to my ear given the equal tuning of them and same head selection. The Ludwig Vistalite drums do have a noticeable difference from the wood-shell drums but still a pleasant sound. Speaking of 1960's-1970's Japanese 'import' drums: I had a five-piece 'Whitehall' brand drum set which was my first 'real' drum set which I purchased back in 1971: turns out they were actually a private-brand set made by Pearl. They were excellent drums (aside from some of the hardware which was minimal quality); they were in a sort of 'white onyx' wrap finish with black striations (sort of a reverse of black onyx); quite a unique and nice looking finish. Wish I still had them as the later 'Whitehall' brand drums weren't nearly as well made as the earlier ones. Be that as it may, I have a weakness for all 'vintage' drums and this was a fun video to watch. Only thing is: too bad no Rogers drums in this video. Surely no vintage drum collection is complete without USA-made Rogers drums from the late 1950's through 1970's period.
Honestly, a one off listen with all the drums miced up is a bit like splitting hairs and comes down to a personal preference. They all sounded okay and you can make any drum sound reasonable given the time to do so. The rest comes down to the quality of the build.
Pretty much sound similar. Especially the Floor toms. All sound good!
4:55 No man! It's the same thing in the end but it's the other way: Slingerland Radio King shells were similar to Ludwig ones, Ludwig&Ludwig starting the manufacturing of mahogany-poplar-mahogany with maple re-rings shells around 1924. Back then Slingerland was exclusively into banjos and ukuleles.
No wonder Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa, loved the Slingerland Radio Kings..
I have the Slingerland Sound Kings and mahogany Ludwig Super Classic ...both great kits.
maybe some rogers holiday would be a great add to this comparison
Strange that my favorite kit is the swingstars then again I prefer the sound and liveliness of smaller sizes which they were so that might have helped. After those the Ludwig super classics for me.
the start of this video made me scroll up profusely
Every single one of these drum kits sounds 100 times better than the new mass produced garbage today. That goes for the drums and the music these days. That Sonor kit (as always) sounds better and warmer than everything else.
I'm with You on the first 2 statements..
Goes to show if you know how to tune a drum for it's own tone, any drum can sound great. Excellent recording as well.
Great video, sounds fantastic. I'd love to chat with you about mics, setup, daw settings, etc
I have the same STAR (Swingstar) Aisia Pearl Drum Kit with the setup 20"x14, 16"x16, 14"x14, 12"x8; And Remo Heads. It is superb :)
that's why I love modern drums....
And they love you
Sonor always the best . Just has a different sound that I love .
Super Video!
Darf ich fragen wo du die Mikrohalterung für die beiden snaretops herhast?
Danke.
Man amazing video! The swing star surprised me a lot but nothing equal the tone of the superclassic (my number one favorite) Can’t wait for a second volume with Gretsch/Rogers/Camco/ Premier or Olympic/Berverly/Ajax 😉 How do you tune your drums, I would to know how you can reach all this low end with a little kit like the swing star and how about the others kits?
Yeah, dream video, well done. Love all those kits, have played a couple of them, the Sonor I played once was a Phonic in standard rock sizes with natural finish, great fun. What makes it different from this kit?
Fantastic video!! Thank you very much for the effort
What a great video. And what a lot of cool gear. I'm not jealous at all... Thanks for all the info, and thanks for sharing. BTW, what's the little metal doodad on the snare rim?
Hi, thanks for your kind comment. :-) The little metal dampener is called snareweight.
Man you need a Premier 70's with Mahogany shells in your collection.
I don't think the quality of the Japanese kits was sometimes bad. All the vintage MIJ kits I've seen have been no worse than American made stuff. In fact I have seen many ludwig shells with seperations. Can't say the same for MIJ.
Great comparison video!
amazing drums
No Vista Lite snare ? :(
All the kits sounded decent to impressive. Oversized vintage drums might still have limitations compared to modern drums. Thanks for the comparison
I think the old drums are better. More Character just like antique cars. Better Looking and Cooler than the mass produced things and no 2 kits of same model and size sounded identical. They All had personality.
The 12" Swingstar tom sounds the best.
And if you had tested any snare drum or set of CAMCO OAKLAWN DRUMS in any size... hands down... they would have been overall the best looking, the best made and the best sounding and the highest price.
Great video one complaint . Tuned drums too low?
How could Rogers, Gretsch and Camco be left out?
Pretty interesting. Sonor has that typical short note on toms that is still their signature sound, while the Tama-predecessor is just the opposite, a wide open singing, almost barking tom sound, that you can still hear today with Tama drums. And those Slingerland Sound King and Ludwig Superclassic toms are sonically not that distinct. Surprise surprise...
Premier Drums and Trixon are very interesting too !
What is the metal accessory on the snare, to the left of the Remo label?
just google "snareweight"
I wish I still had my first drum set from 35 years ago...with my current knowledge,that is. It was a Majestic. It was gorgeous but I had little knowledge of drums. I was 11. It was from a pawn shop and came with a broken Ludwig Speed King pedal.. I went through so many clothes hangers on that pedal,being 11 and not knowing how to fix it. I was dismissive of those Majestics,considering how horrible CB 700’s were as a replacement. 20/20 hindsight.
Great tunings on all drums. What’s your techniques??
The 1967 ludwig, and sonor were my favorite
wow this is epic!!!keep 'em coming
i really dig those swing star!!!
The ludwigs here sound amazing
incredible recording!!
No Hayman? They'd knock the socks off some of these!
That Swingstar 😍
SLINGERLAND RADIO KINGS and SOUND KINGS, were favourites of both GENE KRUPA and BUDDY RICH.
Still sound the best here..
Nice!Of course,British drums would have been nice also.but they deserve their own vidéo,lol.I am just being chauvinist,I collect British drums only now.Thanks for that video.
Superb video. Nicely presented. I want them all, but that would be greedy, and it would lead to divorce! 🙄
haha!
Great job, very informative!
fantastic , really helpful.