Dude I've been play testing to see when the games performance will improve. Still slightly better than the suggested pc components and its still a shit show. Also the devs are making it less realistic with their idea of "tactical realism"
Yeah it's perfectly balanced now. you can run to outflank. take a second to get stamina then shoot. which is how it should be. before by the time you could shoot, you lost your opportunity.
yh some guy argued with me about how he thinks im being delusional abt the shit mechanics before the update, now he took his words back after this update where it fixed the problems
@@-pr0vat70 ill have to try it, i didbnt know it was out, tried it yesterday and didnt notice anything so just got off. didnt know what too look for tho either
Honestly the playerbase has been my biggest complaint. Unsportsmanlike behavior and CoD level of teamwork. Ico was a great tool to teach teamwork and instead they would rather play more toxic. Cunty squadmates, and not a squad lead worth following for games on end. Even specifically playing on experience preferred or mil sim servers ends up being a disappointing merry-go-round of Russia vs US with a few pmc mixed in on the same 5 maps. The conflict of interest here is stifling.
You need to find yourself a server you enjoy and stick to it, regardless of the queue. I play on a British server which has sensible rules and promotes a high standard of gameplay for everyone
I fully agree with the player base and America vs russia comments its stupid i used to squad lead but not anymore nobody wants to listen and act out a plan they all fuck off immediately into different directions no cohesion at all. And you are correct its the same 5 maps and 2 factions i havent played turkey since they released ffs
I always have a good time in liquid gaming. Id avoid RCN if you play armor. Some server admins abuse their power. I was literally threatened to get booted because I claimed the tank first. 7th Rangers and SquadOps are also pretty good.
Really just need to find a good server and stick to it as much as possible. I of course am biased towards 1stRB, but there's others. Squad Ops and 7th aren't bad either. The main issue is just finding a good server, then a good SL. If you find people you like then the game becomes that much better
I think suppression should stay how it is and not change at all. Pulling up in an HMG technical 50 meters from a point and advancing with a squad while the HMG shoots, all while your teammates are shooting too and yelling at eachother what to do when you get to the target, just feels so immersive and like no other game.
I played a lot of it yesterday and thought it was great I couldn’t shoot accurately while suppressed or having little to no stamina after running but unlike in 8.1 it took a reasonable amount of time to stabilize marksman and battle rifles were USABLE and scopes actually felt like an advantage and a disadvantage like in real life
This is looking to shape up for a great time to play Squad with all the polishing and the devs working on the Unreal Engine swap over, it's been fun. Not to mention Squad 44 with it's latest installment of the Pacific Theater of the war, makes this devil dog long for some volcanic ash in my boots. Your constant love for Squad's unique gameplay with your videos makes for a really enjoyable time to watch, thank you.
I’ve been having a real skill issue with 8.2 because the bullets come in quicker. Gotta make the adjustment myself but I’m glad everyone’s having more fun
Thank you for showcasing the modifications to the ico moi. I am willing to tolerate it and redownload the game because of this video. As always keep up the good work.
I wasn’t happy with ICO but I came back this week and I actually feel like combat is more fun now. It’s not as hardcore as what it was, but better than original arcade feel. I’m very happy.
@owensks no no , pre ICO was a bland boring mess. And every game is point n click.advemture even RUST after the recoil. Update Everything is just gettinf dumbed down for zoomers
@@MachinedFace88ttv Yes, pre-ICO was bland. I never said it wasn't, but ICO was overdone. I enjoyed the slowed-down gunfights, but they were way too unbalanced. The characters all had asthma and spaghetti arms. Rust was never realistic it has always been Arcady you obviously haven't been playing it since legacy
just what i was thinking man, playing belaya pass tonight and my squad just clutched the fuck up!!! got them to push homestead from a juicy rally. the recoil on the aug was better then ever :)
The weapon sway while scoped seems better. I'm not sure if that's one of the things changed or by how much... but it just seems more stable and enjoyable to watch you land those shots. Back then, it felt like our characters had ripped 4 shots of tequila before looking down the scope.
I stopped playing after 8.2. Im a full time Inf squad leader and Inf tactics are way less usefull now. I get that thats what most of the players like, but its no game for me anymore.
Good to hear it's better. I'm stuck in PoE 2 though right now. But I'm glad to hear the gun play is getting better. Improving the gun play mechanics is going to save this game.
1:45 Hol up "as we used to say in Singapore" bro closet Singkie?? Ang moh so good cannot tell sia Also obligatory SINGAPORE MENTIONED MAJULAH 🎉🎉🎉 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬
I don't think they will be doing any optimization till they integrate the new engine. A decent amount of that type of work would be null after engine drops. I'm sure that not all of it would be null. But enough to make them not want to sink much effort into it
As one of the loudest noodle arm complainer, ICO is actually a lot better now. The game is significantly more enjoyable, and you still have you work together.
I think one of the best ways to describe these changes are that they've reduced the ICO impact for the start of firefights (I.e. The time to stabilise) but the overall ICO changes are still in place for the mid to long (time wise) firefights. Being able to fire LAT/HAT within seconds now is fantastic again 👌👌👌
Im so in love with this game right now. Only prob is im still waiting to meet solid friends i can junk out with. Nothing like having a blast but cant share it with friends. Most my gamers friends arent into it. Im ginna keep grinding until i find my people. Loving being sl allows me to control my fate. Nothing worse then a bad sl or no sl so i said fuck it and just learn it.
@@vallewasgeddney5996 yeah in the sense that nobody wants to peak out at an automatic sniper rifle. If one is shooting at you and doesn't somehow kill you whether it hits you or not, it's going to suppress you.
Honestly, I feel one of the biggest problems I see In squad atm is the voice-spam. It’s getting so toxic… The voting screens between rounds have made all my friends leave the game behind
The only thing i dont lile about squad is the same 4 maps player over and over and over and over when theres many options most of the maps i havent gotten to play sadly.
I gave it a try today after like a year or so and i wondered why i can actually hit someone with AKM without walking at least 2 mins crouched with ADS. 😅 Didn't know about the update.
@@owensks that's bullshit i lose lots of fps in epic and low settings even. When you use scopes it renders the game twice which means it's impossible for it not to affect performance
I didn't really play the game that much but the weapon changes were really annoying and made me quit 100%. Might have to give it a try again. I personally don't really like how suppression works in these games but it's just how it is I guess.
I've been pretty vocal about MGs and Battle Rifles needing adjustments for over a year now. In my 8.2 update video I also suggest suppression needs tweaks and that some weapons (like the marksman and battle rifles with longer range optics) are still a bit overtuned. ICO has still vastly improved the game and these adjustments are great.
Yeah I feel like he was one of the UA-cam streamers that heavily back owi to that awful gun mechanic change. Only because they think it realism. Which is not anyone with actual experience with firearms know that we don’t sway that extreme with pistols and rifles in ir 😂. Squad is just full of femboys and Milsim want to be soldiers.
@@miguelguzman4702 run for 5 minutes with all the gear on you and let's see how you're going to aim. I think the first iteration of ICO was the best one.
Moidawg is just an OWI glazer and this video is proof. You were so heavily for the ICO mess that made the game feel terrible and now you’re saying they reverted it and it’s way better. You have lost all credibility, how anyone can watch you is beyond me
@@owensks yep, its some UE4 issue, (ehm spaghetti squadcode) small amount of people are not lucky, and I am one of them. There are other UE4 multiplayer games I played and I no problem, and some other people have problems with them but not with squad. Anyway, it may not be the game for me
No having played mods that have taken away ICO it feels like shit going back to what it was before. ICO just needed to be tweaked before being released
Moi can you get over your million dollar man body operations and just get back to streaming 24/7. 😂😂😂😂 Hope all is well cannot wait for Unreal 5! Also, anymore S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would be cool.
why wont Squad do some leveling system where people start of as recruits with Sh*tty aim and gain EXP playing and as lvl goes higher the better the aim gets ? where level only affects the Aim and only the aim if they want to make it as realistic because everyone gets better with experience Lmao
too bad most latam player are bad at this game, like...really bad, they play like is a CS GO match...they depend heavily on modded servers (less recoil, less suppression mechanics, more zoom on sights, etc). Most servers run global escalation and stuff like that. I like US servers more (the average player is better in every mechanic of the game) but sometimes is a pain in the ass to play with 180 ms :/
I'm struggling with it, honestly. Not much time to coordinate, adjust, and respond to threats. Just got off of a 7 round losing streak. Every time we lost an objective it was just a quick collapse and roll. Firefights over objectives are back to being settled in matters of seconds. I'll give it a few more tries but I think maybe I'm getting too old for multiplayer FPS games. All I can say is, enjoy your youth. That muscle memory fails you at some point.
People don’t understand that 8.2 makes movement more risky and results in a more static experience. It also does away with the fire fights that were ever present with the 8.1 gun play because engagements weren’t decided within 190ms.
Hard to make it harder to shoot while still maintaining fun. That said, 90% of people who don't play anymore solely because of the ICO were the blueberries sitting 2 OBJs behind the team looking for kills.
Oh FAL, how I've missed you
Oh squad, how I MISS you… this ain’t my baby. Where did she go?
Dude I've been play testing to see when the games performance will improve. Still slightly better than the suggested pc components and its still a shit show. Also the devs are making it less realistic with their idea of "tactical realism"
@leonidas9731 i have almost on par with recommended and my game is usually mostly fine except sometimes death drops my frames but its not that bad
What happened, bro... ?
You FAL off, man!!! 🤪
FN FAL FTW
some truly impeccable When Squad Players Become Professional Voice Actors moment in the chora round in particular. 11/10
That guy was just such a joy to play with ngl.
@@giahuynguyenkim6389 We had a lot of fun
WE SHOOT GUNS LIKE WE ARE ACTUALLY TRAINED SOLDIERS AGIAN LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah it's perfectly balanced now. you can run to outflank. take a second to get stamina then shoot. which is how it should be. before by the time you could shoot, you lost your opportunity.
it made playing AT so frustrating on god.
yh some guy argued with me about how he thinks im being delusional abt the shit mechanics before the update, now he took his words back after this update where it fixed the problems
@@-pr0vat70 ill have to try it, i didbnt know it was out, tried it yesterday and didnt notice anything so just got off. didnt know what too look for tho either
It's really a perfect middle ground now. I like it a lot
Honestly the playerbase has been my biggest complaint. Unsportsmanlike behavior and CoD level of teamwork. Ico was a great tool to teach teamwork and instead they would rather play more toxic. Cunty squadmates, and not a squad lead worth following for games on end. Even specifically playing on experience preferred or mil sim servers ends up being a disappointing merry-go-round of Russia vs US with a few pmc mixed in on the same 5 maps. The conflict of interest here is stifling.
You need to find yourself a server you enjoy and stick to it, regardless of the queue. I play on a British server which has sensible rules and promotes a high standard of gameplay for everyone
I fully agree with the player base and America vs russia comments its stupid i used to squad lead but not anymore nobody wants to listen and act out a plan they all fuck off immediately into different directions no cohesion at all. And you are correct its the same 5 maps and 2 factions i havent played turkey since they released ffs
I always have a good time in liquid gaming. Id avoid RCN if you play armor. Some server admins abuse their power. I was literally threatened to get booted because I claimed the tank first. 7th Rangers and SquadOps are also pretty good.
Hop onto Head Humperz, we play Monday and Thursday nights @ 7:30 EST. May have a better time
Really just need to find a good server and stick to it as much as possible. I of course am biased towards 1stRB, but there's others. Squad Ops and 7th aren't bad either. The main issue is just finding a good server, then a good SL. If you find people you like then the game becomes that much better
I think suppression should stay how it is and not change at all. Pulling up in an HMG technical 50 meters from a point and advancing with a squad while the HMG shoots, all while your teammates are shooting too and yelling at eachother what to do when you get to the target, just feels so immersive and like no other game.
18:01 this .50 cal getting closer and closer is terrifying!
knew squad was back when I dropped 50 kills with a ppsh on fallujah lmao
Clip? 🎥 🎬 🎞
Same with Chinese rifle on Sanxian 30 kills as SL
You dropping that chopper gunner was impressive
"We're so back" as if you haven't been glazing the whole time 🤣🤣🤣
I played a lot of it yesterday and thought it was great I couldn’t shoot accurately while suppressed or having little to no stamina after running but unlike in 8.1 it took a reasonable amount of time to stabilize marksman and battle rifles were USABLE and scopes actually felt like an advantage and a disadvantage like in real life
7:13 that was me laying down on top of the bunker haha thanks for the compliment
I'm not sure what they did to the graphics or that side of the game but after this recent patch my game runs amazing and clear, best update ever
its guys like grumpy that keep the game alive
This is looking to shape up for a great time to play Squad with all the polishing and the devs working on the Unreal Engine swap over, it's been fun.
Not to mention Squad 44 with it's latest installment of the Pacific Theater of the war, makes this devil dog long for some volcanic ash in my boots.
Your constant love for Squad's unique gameplay with your videos makes for a really enjoyable time to watch, thank you.
Now this game just needs to be optimized.
Finally, time to go back to Squad
I’ve been having a real skill issue with 8.2 because the bullets come in quicker. Gotta make the adjustment myself but I’m glad everyone’s having more fun
Thank you for showcasing the modifications to the ico moi. I am willing to tolerate it and redownload the game because of this video. As always keep up the good work.
Maybe I'll get back into Squad again. The ICO update essentially killed all the joy for me.
Gonna be interesting to see how the changes play out! Lookin forward to seeing it all happen on next EitS! :D
its going to play out just how the game was years before ICO. Nothing new here.
"Tour de ico" Lol! 😂😂love it
That "Mr. President get down" was well timed.
That last match was epic
They still need to buff machine guns and sniper scopes. Insane recoil and flags on the machine guns and the sniper scopes are way too narrow.
You're an awesome SL!
8.1 was straight BUNS
is the recoil and weapon handling still realistic???
Good time to come back then :) cheers!
I wasn’t happy with ICO but I came back this week and I actually feel like combat is more fun now. It’s not as hardcore as what it was, but better than original arcade feel. I’m very happy.
not as hardcore huh...sounds like every other game on the market
@@MachinedFace88ttv you think the recoil was playable? braindead ico enjoyers
@@MachinedFace88ttv Did you play the ICO? A not as hardcore game is perfect as before it was a mess.
@owensks no no , pre ICO was a bland boring mess. And every game is point n click.advemture even RUST after the recoil. Update
Everything is just gettinf dumbed down for zoomers
@@MachinedFace88ttv Yes, pre-ICO was bland. I never said it wasn't, but ICO was overdone. I enjoyed the slowed-down gunfights, but they were way too unbalanced. The characters all had asthma and spaghetti arms.
Rust was never realistic it has always been Arcady you obviously haven't been playing it since legacy
My fav type of dog vid
just what i was thinking man, playing belaya pass tonight and my squad just clutched the fuck up!!! got them to push homestead from a juicy rally. the recoil on the aug was better then ever :)
The weapon sway while scoped seems better. I'm not sure if that's one of the things changed or by how much... but it just seems more stable and enjoyable to watch you land those shots. Back then, it felt like our characters had ripped 4 shots of tequila before looking down the scope.
I stopped playing after 8.2. Im a full time Inf squad leader and Inf tactics are way less usefull now. I get that thats what most of the players like, but its no game for me anymore.
Good to hear it's better. I'm stuck in PoE 2 though right now. But I'm glad to hear the gun play is getting better. Improving the gun play mechanics is going to save this game.
G3 and Mg3’s are plain and simple OP. They went from borderline unusable to S tier weapons.
Pls don’t change 😂
That spec ops play on Belaya lol.
What is your graphics settings?
1:45 Hol up "as we used to say in Singapore" bro closet Singkie?? Ang moh so good cannot tell sia
Also obligatory SINGAPORE MENTIONED MAJULAH 🎉🎉🎉 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬
Played this weekend and was actually able to get kills for once
Imagine if Squad has the same gun mechanics as Insurgency Sandstorm
The singapore referance🤝
Optimisation ???
I don't think they will be doing any optimization till they integrate the new engine. A decent amount of that type of work would be null after engine drops. I'm sure that not all of it would be null. But enough to make them not want to sink much effort into it
Still losing fps when using this ICO's stupid PIP ADS
@@user-lw9iz9wr1u Use irons or red dots then lol
Just upgrade your pc. I have no problem on 13700k.and rtx 4090
Eye in the socket is lowkey better than eye in the sky
Great stuff.
Insurgent raider chaos next please.
WISH SQUAD WAS ON NEXT GEN CONSOLE!🙏 WHAT A GAME STILL.
As one of the loudest noodle arm complainer, ICO is actually a lot better now. The game is significantly more enjoyable, and you still have you work together.
I think one of the best ways to describe these changes are that they've reduced the ICO impact for the start of firefights (I.e. The time to stabilise) but the overall ICO changes are still in place for the mid to long (time wise) firefights. Being able to fire LAT/HAT within seconds now is fantastic again 👌👌👌
They just needed to actually tune the ICO before they released it.
What map was that at beginning I never saw that map
Sanxian!
this is how the game should be... trained soldier warfare balanced team play.
Good progress now we only need optimization and ue5 and its perfection
nah I aint downloading 85GB for what is probably clickbait
Nobody is forcing you? you could also just look at the changelogs and see that this isn't clickbait
Im so in love with this game right now. Only prob is im still waiting to meet solid friends i can junk out with. Nothing like having a blast but cant share it with friends. Most my gamers friends arent into it. Im ginna keep grinding until i find my people. Loving being sl allows me to control my fate. Nothing worse then a bad sl or no sl so i said fuck it and just learn it.
How does he move his camera/head like that ? 05:49
Hold alt and look around
@milkoreo9593 Thanks
isn't this the guy that said they should of gone even further with the overall and make it impossible to aim
Homat Singapore Homat!
I feel like they need to increase suppression, especially for RPG's
MGs are snipers again. Is that a good thing?
mgs are effective like they should be
@@igkinatsu I´ve been very effective in suppressing the enemy so far but NOW I´m SNIPING with that thing! Feels like an automatic sniper rifle
@@vallewasgeddney5996 as it should. Machine guns are supposed to be the deadliest single infantryman firearm in a squad.
@@P3RF3CTD3ATH Sure but aren´t they primarily used for suppression tactics ?
@@vallewasgeddney5996 yeah in the sense that nobody wants to peak out at an automatic sniper rifle. If one is shooting at you and doesn't somehow kill you whether it hits you or not, it's going to suppress you.
Honestly, I feel one of the biggest problems I see In squad atm is the voice-spam. It’s getting so toxic… The voting screens between rounds have made all my friends leave the game behind
Exited to play on my off day
20:18 It's not just a mouse breakdown )))
I might actually start playing again
The only thing i dont lile about squad is the same 4 maps player over and over and over and over when theres many options most of the maps i havent gotten to play sadly.
Says no noodle arms literally shows him shooting with noodle arms
im from singapore hahaha nice quote
I gave it a try today after like a year or so and i wondered why i can actually hit someone with AKM without walking at least 2 mins crouched with ADS. 😅 Didn't know about the update.
We still lose 20 fps minimum each time we open scope what are you talking about? The worst part about ICO have always been the PIP scopes.
Sounds like you need to twaek the settings. I dont have any FPS lose when looking through the scope
@@owensks that's bullshit i lose lots of fps in epic and low settings even. When you use scopes it renders the game twice which means it's impossible for it not to affect performance
since the update i can’t find any server anymore when before i didn’t had any problem i can’t even play the game !
Ive also had way better FPS running a GTX 1070. Love this update!!
I didn't really play the game that much but the weapon changes were really annoying and made me quit 100%. Might have to give it a try again. I personally don't really like how suppression works in these games but it's just how it is I guess.
Really want Squad but too broke to buy it 😭
Aren't you one of the ones that said there was nothing wrong with the ico mess?
I've been pretty vocal about MGs and Battle Rifles needing adjustments for over a year now. In my 8.2 update video I also suggest suppression needs tweaks and that some weapons (like the marksman and battle rifles with longer range optics) are still a bit overtuned.
ICO has still vastly improved the game and these adjustments are great.
Yeah I feel like he was one of the UA-cam streamers that heavily back owi to that awful gun mechanic change. Only because they think it realism. Which is not anyone with actual experience with firearms know that we don’t sway that extreme with pistols and rifles in ir 😂. Squad is just full of femboys and Milsim want to be soldiers.
@@miguelguzman4702 run for 5 minutes with all the gear on you and let's see how you're going to aim. I think the first iteration of ICO was the best one.
@@miguelguzman4702wheres the femboys
@@miguelguzman4702where are the femboys
YOOOOO I am from SINGAPORE 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬
Same same but different
You are wrong, the squad was the best before the 6.0 update
Moidawg is just an OWI glazer and this video is proof. You were so heavily for the ICO mess that made the game feel terrible and now you’re saying they reverted it and it’s way better. You have lost all credibility, how anyone can watch you is beyond me
Shilldawg
So they made it noob friendly like every game now
this is all good. still cant find more than 5 servers, or connect even directly via I.P 😀 sometimes it works, but mostly not.
How are you only finding 5 servers? Have you cleared your filter?
@@owensks yep, its some UE4 issue, (ehm spaghetti squadcode) small amount of people are not lucky, and I am one of them. There are other UE4 multiplayer games I played and I no problem, and some other people have problems with them but not with squad. Anyway, it may not be the game for me
Hold the phone i didnt know ur singaporean, how the hell do you know same same but different
the ICO was the worst thing to ever happen to the game
Hopefully this will be the last time we ever have to hear about the ICO again. Very over it.
Remove ICO and you got best feeling squad
No having played mods that have taken away ICO it feels like shit going back to what it was before. ICO just needed to be tweaked before being released
its crazy for me to learn i have been playing the game longer than you lol
now they need to fix the map voting im sick of playing narva and tallil over and over againe
Actually it has been better. It's called REMOVAL OF THE ICO.
when they optimize this game, ill consider reinstalling.
Moi can you get over your million dollar man body operations and just get back to streaming 24/7. 😂😂😂😂 Hope all is well cannot wait for Unreal 5! Also, anymore S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would be cool.
why wont Squad do some leveling system where people start of as recruits with Sh*tty aim and gain EXP playing and as lvl goes higher the better the aim gets ? where level only affects the Aim and only the aim if they want to make it as realistic because everyone gets better with experience Lmao
Why in the fuck would that do that. You're putting new players at a massive disadvantage and besides this isn't a game about leveling up.
ICO is great right now, such fun
too bad most latam player are bad at this game, like...really bad, they play like is a CS GO match...they depend heavily on modded servers (less recoil, less suppression mechanics, more zoom on sights, etc). Most servers run global escalation and stuff like that. I like US servers more (the average player is better in every mechanic of the game) but sometimes is a pain in the ass to play with 180 ms :/
I'm struggling with it, honestly. Not much time to coordinate, adjust, and respond to threats. Just got off of a 7 round losing streak. Every time we lost an objective it was just a quick collapse and roll. Firefights over objectives are back to being settled in matters of seconds. I'll give it a few more tries but I think maybe I'm getting too old for multiplayer FPS games. All I can say is, enjoy your youth. That muscle memory fails you at some point.
Who live in Singapore thumbs up now!!!
boring game, hide n seek simulator
People don’t understand that 8.2 makes movement more risky and results in a more static experience. It also does away with the fire fights that were ever present with the 8.1 gun play because engagements weren’t decided within 190ms.
Hard to make it harder to shoot while still maintaining fun. That said, 90% of people who don't play anymore solely because of the ICO were the blueberries sitting 2 OBJs behind the team looking for kills.
Agreed. That's one of the first things I noticed was that firefights over objectives are settled too quickly again.
lol, looks like a hardcore cod, so arcade. ICO is a game changer, now the update ruined every realism in this game.
FAL BABY
i still miss preoverhaul. at the same time, i dropped a 75 kill game as command once so.
brother so happy he forgot to turn down his aimbot
Optimization left the chat