I'm black and naturally thin so being over weight does not go hand and hand with being black. I love Y2K fashion and never stopped wearing it so I'm happy it's back.
I mean tbh I also like Y2K fashion. And I appreciate other people's perspectives on this issue. I think I included the section on how racism impacts our perspectives of fashion and body image because that's what I found while doing my research for this video. Specifically, this article (www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538) prompted me to include that and made me think more critically about how race and racism can influence our culture and fashion even without us realizing. But, again I appreciate learning about other's experiences! Thank you.
I don't know what type of black people you have been around but if you are African "black" you will know that the culture here is praising curvy (not obese nor thin) women and not skinny. If you are skinny here they will make fun of you really bad. Especially if you have small calves and shoulder bones that is showing🤣 I think that American "black" people have different culture when it comes to Africans. So what this narrator is saying in this video is very true when it comes to black african (bantu people) culture. Good video!😄
there's black people of various different body types. my little cousin shares the same body type as Aaliyah (shes in her mid 20's now so its her actual body type) and I'm more curvier. It's weird when people talk about black bodies as if they dont come in diff ways like everyone else XD
I'm black, size zero, and I think morbid obesity among black American women is bc of emotional pain. Black women don't wake up in the morning and decide to binge eat. They binge eat bc of pain. Eating disorders are huge in the black community but not talked about. My family is very fit and we encourage each other to reject morbid obesity and consult your doctor about weight issues. Obesity is not a part of being black...it's a result of poverty, the welfare state( which was created by white supremacists) and feeling empty and abandoned.
Hi thank you so much for sharing your experience and your thoughts! I think everything you mentioned is relevant and I appreciate you bringing it up. It is really important to think of systematic factors that contribute to EDs and obesity, rather than blaming an individual for their choices. Especially when it comes to BIPOC communities there are so many factors rooted in systemic racism that have contributed to EDs and Obesity that should be acknowledged. So I want to thank you again for bringing these topics to light!
@@RoseontheRun You're right. The biggest systemic issue is definitely the welfare state. Black women are constantly incentivized to have kids out of wedlock so they can be paid by Uncle Sam. No other race is incentivized with money to have children out of wedlock, or encouraged to be fat and sick, and angry the way black women are. Great topic!
I grew up in a council house. We were poor. My mum was sick and for two years she couldn't get out of bed. Before them two years and as soon as she was better she worked 3+ jobs for keep food on the table. By the age of 12 I was working. There are poor white people and rich black people. Where you came from got nothing to do with your will and determination to succeed. If someone believes/acts like a victim they will always be a victim.
Does anyone else think this thin trend has something to do with raising food prices and economy downturn?! Stick skinny people who can't afford food will have something to brag about.
Super skinny is not healthy but neither is obesity. People have been in a "love your body no matter the size" phase and it's really not healthy when we have people who are extremely overweight saying this.
I agree I'm obese I've lost 30 lbs and am a personal trainer but the truth is I hate being fat I have type 2 diabetes and pcos and have to work hard to prove myself as a trainer if I could lose 30 more lbs it eoukd be easier to exercise etc
It's not about that. It's about not feeling ashamed or being harassed, because no fat person just forgets that they're fat. And you will not fix your issue or be more active if you think the world will ridicule you for showing up.
Yeah also I really dislike how people are saying "all bodies are beautiful". No, not all bodies are beautiful, and that is okay. It is perfectly fine to not be beautiful. People should be allowed to be average or ugly, and happiness & self-love should not be synonymous with a persons inherent beauty. We should accept ourselves and stay in our lanes, that's what I'm for.
@@lynnepaquette4124 Yeah it's crazy, some idols talked about how their company would put video cameras inside their dorm fridge!! And they would weigh them 1-2x a week. Jeon Somi is 5'7 but weighs 99lbs...everyone praises her for being "more beautiful". At one point she oly ate 3 bananas a day. Currently, she admitted to fasting and eating one meal a day on a vlog. that's crazy.
I hear you but I’ve spent the past few years amazed at how obesity has been celebrated. I don’t mean accepting yourself and being kind to yourself if you happen to be overweight, I mean full on denial that there are risks involved and calling it the new healthy. Not to mention the enormous increase in plastic surgery to have unrealistic body types but the second skinny is a thing, people are concerned about the repercussions. I’m not good with the hypocrisy of it. That statement isn’t directed at you, it’s a general statement.
Yeah I tend to agree. I feel like there is a lot to unpack with the body positivity movement and how its mission has evolved over time. And that's something I also want to look into.
Yes, it definitely does. Please reference the book in the video (written by a black woman). So much of the promotion of thinness in mainstream society was in direct opposition to other cultures’ standards that value curvier women.
@@pisceanbeauty2503 Black women are not inherently obese. If you look at black american women from years ago, they were much thinner. Black women who are obese now are that way due to an increase in unhealthy American diet choices and culture. It is also tasteless to throw us into this discussion for talking points.
Hi! I think I included the section on how racism impacts our perspectives of fashion and body image because that's what I found while doing my research for this video. Specifically, this article (www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538) prompted me to include that and made me think more critically about how race and racism can influence our culture and fashion even without us realizing. I didn't mean for it to come across as just a talking point because I think I just wanted to provide more nuance to the conversation, but I totally understand how it came across like that. I appreciate learning about other's experiences and really thank you for providing your thoughts on this!
why does everyone have to single her out? all i see is people outraged that she is allowed to be fat and fashionable and popular. she trains intensely to be able to dance and play the flute on stage.
Super interesting take. I didn’t even realize this was happening in this way rn. (Big fan of y2k fashion here btw, but only really embracing it recently. I was overweight in the mid 2000s sooooo yeah as you said in the video 😂)
Hi! Good question. So I am not an expert in this topic. But from what I've read and what I know. "Thin is in" and the culture surrounding thinness/thinspiration shares a lot of commonalities with white supremacy and the thought processes that make up the alt-right movement. Even though this may be subconscious, the movement towards thinness is also a movement towards embracing the white body and a rejection of non-white bodies. There is a lot of history behind why this is the case and I will try to link some resources down below that explain it better! But, the movement is based upon upholding systems of oppression that place white women (people who identify as female and nonbinary are included in this as well) above women of color. In addition to upholding the racial hierarchy, the thin is in movement embraces the patriarchy by closely adhering to what men "desire" and playing into the male gaze. So, the core principles of this movement align pretty closely with the viewpoints of the alt-right. Now, extremism does not happen overnight but it is important to think critically about these things because engaging with this movement could lead people down a pipeline towards more insidious movements (fascism, white supremacy, alt-right etc.). There is so much more to say, but I hope this answers your question at least a little! If you want to learn more there are a lot of great resources out there, here are just a few; christyharrison.com/foodpsych/6/the-racist-roots-of-diet-culture-with-sabrina-strings-sociologist-and-author-of-fearing-the-black-body cnc360.com/but-how-exactly-does-diet-culture-uphold-white-supremacy/ Sabrina Strings: Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia. www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538
@@RoseontheRun while I appreciate many of your points, there are some that I disagree with. Naturally, black women have been found to have smaller frames and much more narrow hips in comparison to other groups of women. Which means that we should not and cannot healthily carry so much weight. Black people and overweight/obesity has everything to do with diet, being less on our feet, and also unaddressed mental health issues such as depression. Furthermore, if you were to look at pictures of previous generations of black American women, they show that most of us were very slim. Outside of America, black women are slim as well.
The author of this video is racist and thinks black women are all meant to be fat. What she should have said is, body positivity and HAES is a gateway to alt-right racism glorifying white bodies and putting black bodies down. It's a way for fat white women to be fat but still feel superior through racist ideation. Well, I'm off to Ethiopia to find a big partner. Definitely no historically larger boned and sized women with higher bodyfat percent in colder white places like Europe/Denmark, lol. Obesity is unhealthy, period, no racism involved in identifying fat diseases unless you bring it to the table yourself with a pile of processed sugar and processed fats.
I think low rise bottoms are super cute and can look great on everyone, but the fact is they take so much more work to make look good if you've got even a bit of a stomach, and even if they didn't take more effort to make look good they can be so much less comfortable if you have a stomach or just a little extra padding in general. I don't have tons of experience in low-rise as afashion statement simply because I was born in 2001, but as a kid I had some low-rise jeans (many of them second-hand) and even going into middle school I was wearing lower-cut bottoms, because even as low rise fell out of fashion high-rise hadn't properly come in yet. I was a chubby kid, and I was constantly falling out of my jeans. I didn't know how to judge the right underwear size yet, so when I say I was falling out I mean cheeks coming out falling out, and eventually I just made sure my top could at least cover what was happening. They also cut into my stomach and would fall down to below my stomach, leaving me with what looked like a beer belly and sore spots at the junction between my upper and lower half. As soon as I tried on my first pair of high rise and my first pair of midrise that was actually a proper midrise (if not slightly higher), I never went back.
I love the look of a mini muffin top over low-rise jeans, but I think I'm in the minority with liking it 😭i think i like them because chubby bellies signal maternity/paternity and fertility to me I guess.
I love low rise jeans not because I am thin ( I am not) but because I am short! I do not want my jeans coming up to my bra line. Short folks hate high rise waist pants.
Hi Georgia! I think it is important to address the systematic racism inherent in not only this cultural trend but our society. Although it may make you uncomfortable, it is important to talk about how race and racism impact the world.
@@RoseontheRun Hi, I'm not uncomfortable in the slightest. But your weight has absolutely zero to do with the colour of your skin. Fat people are eating in a calorie surplus and thin people are eating in a calorie deficit. Everyone else is eating the right amount needed to sustain a healthy lifestyle. Fact are facts and the sooner people learn the facts and stop creating a society full of victims the better.
why is a wt woman talking about racism? I'm hispanic and until the pandemic hit I was always a size 2, got to a size 4 for bad habits, we just have to grow un par de ovarios and admit we are the only ones responsible for our bodies, it doesn't matter what pants cut you want to use, fashion is not a right
Hey thanks for providing your perspective on this topic, I really do appreciate other people's perspectives on this issue. As I said in some other comments, I think I included the section on how racism impacts our perspectives of fashion and body image because that's what I found while doing my research for this video. Specifically, this article (www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538) prompted me to include that and made me think more critically about how race and racism can influence our culture and fashion even without us realizing. But, again I appreciate learning about other's experiences! Thank you.
It is absolutely coming back…Adele, Lainey Wilson, Kelly Clarkson…Who next?? By the way one out of four young adults have anxiety or depression. I am on an antidepressant and gained some but alive. I’m also a much happier and kinder person.
I would actually argue that Victorian fashion is way more achievable for a wide variety of body types than modern fashion. Because modern fashion has so few layers it is inevitable that the fashionable silhouette is synonymous with the body underneath, whereas Victorian and other historical styles achieve the fashionable silhouette through structure and padding of the garment.
I know this is an old video but I wanted to point out a couple things: In the video and in comment responses you mentioned non-binary people when trying to included them in the discussion around female bodies. Non-binary people in female-presenting bodies absolutely belong in this discussion, but I think this shows a subconscious default you have towards non-binary people being female, as people in male and intersex or other androgynous bodies would not be affected by these topics in the same way female bodies are. This contributes to the erasure of non-binary people in masculine and androgynous bodies, and the female-skewed social assumptions about non-binary people. Also, you’ve gotten many comments on his already, but the section about race and Fearing the Black Body felt awkward and crammed in there for the sake if being PC. It lacked nuance around how black people (women in this case) may have higher rates of obesity from systemic issues and the types of food people have access to. It can be interpreted that you implied that obesity or being overweight is a natural state of blackness, which is wrong. I think that the relationship between race and body standards deserves it’s own, better researched and thought-out discussion. It’s great that you’re open to learning and are trying to include everyone from different communities, but here it was stretched too thin and fell flat to me and other viewers.
Hi! I appreciate this comment and I feel like I have learned so much since making this video. There are definitely parts I would change or exclude because I agree I think I included them but didn't do a great job actually fleshing them out or carefully crafting them. I also feel like sometimes I try to include different perspectives because I don't want people to feel like I haven't considered the non-white, cis, het perspective, but in hindsight I feel like it can feel forced or inauthentic. I feel like this video taught me a lot, and there are times I feel like taking it down or reworking it ( and I still might) because I would do things a lot differently now. But if I did I wouldn't be able to learn from people leaving helpful critiques of my content. So thank you a lot for this well constructed piece of feedback!
So being obesity is better? Why do people always hate on skinny girls? Being to big can cause health problems as well.That's not feminism that's toxic feminism if you hate on people for just being skinny 🙄
I'm 36, i remember this all. I was 300lbs at the time and people were ruthless, not just my peers. I am fit now. However i have always thought 2000s fashion was hideous even back then. Even though i can fit in all now. I would never wear any of those things. Gen z really seems to like 80s, 90s and early 2000s fashion. There seemed to be a moment where they made their own style but it was short lived. Low rise jeans will always show the top of your crack like a plumber.
Im honest... im naturally thin, I always was underweight. And I'm a little happy about this coming back.
I'm black and naturally thin so being over weight does not go hand and hand with being black. I love Y2K fashion and never stopped wearing it so I'm happy it's back.
I mean tbh I also like Y2K fashion. And I appreciate other people's perspectives on this issue. I think I included the section on how racism impacts our perspectives of fashion and body image because that's what I found while doing my research for this video. Specifically, this article (www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538) prompted me to include that and made me think more critically about how race and racism can influence our culture and fashion even without us realizing. But, again I appreciate learning about other's experiences! Thank you.
I don't know what type of black people you have been around but if you are African "black" you will know that the culture here is praising curvy (not obese nor thin) women and not skinny. If you are skinny here they will make fun of you really bad. Especially if you have small calves and shoulder bones that is showing🤣
I think that American "black" people have different culture when it comes to Africans. So what this narrator is saying in this video is very true when it comes to black african (bantu people) culture. Good video!😄
same, and I wish people would stop acting like the two are one in the same, that in itself feels racist
there's black people of various different body types. my little cousin shares the same body type as Aaliyah (shes in her mid 20's now so its her actual body type) and I'm more curvier. It's weird when people talk about black bodies as if they dont come in diff ways like everyone else XD
Skinny was always in
I'm black, size zero, and I think morbid obesity among black American women is bc of emotional pain. Black women don't wake up in the morning and decide to binge eat. They binge eat bc of pain. Eating disorders are huge in the black community but not talked about. My family is very fit and we encourage each other to reject morbid obesity and consult your doctor about weight issues. Obesity is not a part of being black...it's a result of poverty, the welfare state( which was created by white supremacists) and feeling empty and abandoned.
Hi thank you so much for sharing your experience and your thoughts! I think everything you mentioned is relevant and I appreciate you bringing it up. It is really important to think of systematic factors that contribute to EDs and obesity, rather than blaming an individual for their choices. Especially when it comes to BIPOC communities there are so many factors rooted in systemic racism that have contributed to EDs and Obesity that should be acknowledged. So I want to thank you again for bringing these topics to light!
@@RoseontheRun You're right. The biggest systemic issue is definitely the welfare state. Black women are constantly incentivized to have kids out of wedlock so they can be paid by Uncle Sam. No other race is incentivized with money to have children out of wedlock, or encouraged to be fat and sick, and angry the way black women are. Great topic!
I grew up in a council house. We were poor. My mum was sick and for two years she couldn't get out of bed. Before them two years and as soon as she was better she worked 3+ jobs for keep food on the table. By the age of 12 I was working.
There are poor white people and rich black people. Where you came from got nothing to do with your will and determination to succeed. If someone believes/acts like a victim they will always be a victim.
Yes I agree. We don’t see the same obesity rate amongst black ppl outside of the US.
Does anyone else think this thin trend has something to do with raising food prices and economy downturn?! Stick skinny people who can't afford food will have something to brag about.
Super skinny is not healthy but neither is obesity. People have been in a "love your body no matter the size" phase and it's really not healthy when we have people who are extremely overweight saying this.
Love your body till someone skinny loves their body they go crazzzy
I agree I'm obese I've lost 30 lbs and am a personal trainer but the truth is I hate being fat I have type 2 diabetes and pcos and have to work hard to prove myself as a trainer if I could lose 30 more lbs it eoukd be easier to exercise etc
It's not about that. It's about not feeling ashamed or being harassed, because no fat person just forgets that they're fat.
And you will not fix your issue or be more active if you think the world will ridicule you for showing up.
Yeah also I really dislike how people are saying "all bodies are beautiful". No, not all bodies are beautiful, and that is okay. It is perfectly fine to not be beautiful. People should be allowed to be average or ugly, and happiness & self-love should not be synonymous with a persons inherent beauty.
We should accept ourselves and stay in our lanes, that's what I'm for.
If youre naturally that way it is. But if you got that way from extreme diets in either way it's not healthy
Kpop is also huge right now and the ideal is be as thin as possible. There are so many kpop diets on UA-cam right now.
That's an interesting point! I will have to look into that 👀
I think that's only part of it, in general y2k fashion is back and only looks good on skinny girls, with no bellys.
@@lynnepaquette4124 Yeah it's crazy, some idols talked about how their company would put video cameras inside their dorm fridge!! And they would weigh them 1-2x a week. Jeon Somi is 5'7 but weighs 99lbs...everyone praises her for being "more beautiful". At one point she oly ate 3 bananas a day. Currently, she admitted to fasting and eating one meal a day on a vlog. that's crazy.
Thinness is our natural body shape.
High rise jeans are NOT flattering for every body type. I am naturally super thin and I am soo relieved that low rise jeans are available again.
I hear you but I’ve spent the past few years amazed at how obesity has been celebrated. I don’t mean accepting yourself and being kind to yourself if you happen to be overweight, I mean full on denial that there are risks involved and calling it the new healthy. Not to mention the enormous increase in plastic surgery to have unrealistic body types but the second skinny is a thing, people are concerned about the repercussions. I’m not good with the hypocrisy of it. That statement isn’t directed at you, it’s a general statement.
Yeah I tend to agree. I feel like there is a lot to unpack with the body positivity movement and how its mission has evolved over time. And that's something I also want to look into.
As a black person, please do not include black people in this discussion. Fat phobia has nothing to do with blackness.
Well said angel. Standard! 🎯 💯 👏🏻
Yes, it definitely does. Please reference the book in the video (written by a black woman). So much of the promotion of thinness in mainstream society was in direct opposition to other cultures’ standards that value curvier women.
@@pisceanbeauty2503 Black women are not inherently obese. If you look at black american women from years ago, they were much thinner. Black women who are obese now are that way due to an increase in unhealthy American diet choices and culture. It is also tasteless to throw us into this discussion for talking points.
Hi! I think I included the section on how racism impacts our perspectives of fashion and body image because that's what I found while doing my research for this video. Specifically, this article (www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538) prompted me to include that and made me think more critically about how race and racism can influence our culture and fashion even without us realizing. I didn't mean for it to come across as just a talking point because I think I just wanted to provide more nuance to the conversation, but I totally understand how it came across like that. I appreciate learning about other's experiences and really thank you for providing your thoughts on this!
THANK YOU!
But body positivity promotes obesity so how is that good? They made Lizzo the face of body positivity. It needs to be a line drawn somewhere 💯
Yes!!
why does everyone have to single her out? all i see is people outraged that she is allowed to be fat and fashionable and popular. she trains intensely to be able to dance and play the flute on stage.
Super interesting take. I didn’t even realize this was happening in this way rn. (Big fan of y2k fashion here btw, but only really embracing it recently. I was overweight in the mid 2000s sooooo yeah as you said in the video 😂)
Yeah it's a shame I also love the y2K fashion trends that are happening rn but all the problematic stuff tied to it make it hard to enjoy 100%
What does thinness/thinsp0 have to do with the alt-right? I’m really curious genuinely wondering :)
Hi! Good question. So I am not an expert in this topic. But from what I've read and what I know. "Thin is in" and the culture surrounding thinness/thinspiration shares a lot of commonalities with white supremacy and the thought processes that make up the alt-right movement. Even though this may be subconscious, the movement towards thinness is also a movement towards embracing the white body and a rejection of non-white bodies. There is a lot of history behind why this is the case and I will try to link some resources down below that explain it better! But, the movement is based upon upholding systems of oppression that place white women (people who identify as female and nonbinary are included in this as well) above women of color. In addition to upholding the racial hierarchy, the thin is in movement embraces the patriarchy by closely adhering to what men "desire" and playing into the male gaze. So, the core principles of this movement align pretty closely with the viewpoints of the alt-right. Now, extremism does not happen overnight but it is important to think critically about these things because engaging with this movement could lead people down a pipeline towards more insidious movements (fascism, white supremacy, alt-right etc.).
There is so much more to say, but I hope this answers your question at least a little!
If you want to learn more there are a lot of great resources out there, here are just a few;
christyharrison.com/foodpsych/6/the-racist-roots-of-diet-culture-with-sabrina-strings-sociologist-and-author-of-fearing-the-black-body
cnc360.com/but-how-exactly-does-diet-culture-uphold-white-supremacy/
Sabrina Strings: Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia.
www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538
@@RoseontheRun while I appreciate many of your points, there are some that I disagree with. Naturally, black women have been found to have smaller frames and much more narrow hips in comparison to other groups of women. Which means that we should not and cannot healthily carry so much weight. Black people and overweight/obesity has everything to do with diet, being less on our feet, and also unaddressed mental health issues such as depression. Furthermore, if you were to look at pictures of previous generations of black American women, they show that most of us were very slim. Outside of America, black women are slim as well.
The author of this video is racist and thinks black women are all meant to be fat. What she should have said is, body positivity and HAES is a gateway to alt-right racism glorifying white bodies and putting black bodies down. It's a way for fat white women to be fat but still feel superior through racist ideation. Well, I'm off to Ethiopia to find a big partner. Definitely no historically larger boned and sized women with higher bodyfat percent in colder white places like Europe/Denmark, lol. Obesity is unhealthy, period, no racism involved in identifying fat diseases unless you bring it to the table yourself with a pile of processed sugar and processed fats.
I think low rise bottoms are super cute and can look great on everyone, but the fact is they take so much more work to make look good if you've got even a bit of a stomach, and even if they didn't take more effort to make look good they can be so much less comfortable if you have a stomach or just a little extra padding in general. I don't have tons of experience in low-rise as afashion statement simply because I was born in 2001, but as a kid I had some low-rise jeans (many of them second-hand) and even going into middle school I was wearing lower-cut bottoms, because even as low rise fell out of fashion high-rise hadn't properly come in yet. I was a chubby kid, and I was constantly falling out of my jeans. I didn't know how to judge the right underwear size yet, so when I say I was falling out I mean cheeks coming out falling out, and eventually I just made sure my top could at least cover what was happening. They also cut into my stomach and would fall down to below my stomach, leaving me with what looked like a beer belly and sore spots at the junction between my upper and lower half. As soon as I tried on my first pair of high rise and my first pair of midrise that was actually a proper midrise (if not slightly higher), I never went back.
aht aht low rise jeans def don't look good on everyone ☠️ .
I love the look of a mini muffin top over low-rise jeans, but I think I'm in the minority with liking it 😭i think i like them because chubby bellies signal maternity/paternity and fertility to me I guess.
I love low rise jeans not because I am thin ( I am not) but because I am short! I do not want my jeans coming up to my bra line. Short folks hate high rise waist pants.
Wait, you're making this a race thing. What isn't a race issue these days!? Jeeze.
Well I think you answered your own q there.
Hi Georgia! I think it is important to address the systematic racism inherent in not only this cultural trend but our society. Although it may make you uncomfortable, it is important to talk about how race and racism impact the world.
@@RoseontheRun Hi,
I'm not uncomfortable in the slightest. But your weight has absolutely zero to do with the colour of your skin. Fat people are eating in a calorie surplus and thin people are eating in a calorie deficit. Everyone else is eating the right amount needed to sustain a healthy lifestyle. Fact are facts and the sooner people learn the facts and stop creating a society full of victims the better.
why is a wt woman talking about racism? I'm hispanic and until the pandemic hit I was always a size 2, got to a size 4 for bad habits, we just have to grow un par de ovarios and admit we are the only ones responsible for our bodies, it doesn't matter what pants cut you want to use, fashion is not a right
Hey thanks for providing your perspective on this topic, I really do appreciate other people's perspectives on this issue. As I said in some other comments, I think I included the section on how racism impacts our perspectives of fashion and body image because that's what I found while doing my research for this video. Specifically, this article (www.npr.org/transcripts/893006538) prompted me to include that and made me think more critically about how race and racism can influence our culture and fashion even without us realizing. But, again I appreciate learning about other's experiences! Thank you.
having lived through this the first time i cannot fucking fathom why you'd want to wear these ridiculous outfits. is it really worth your health?
It is absolutely coming back…Adele, Lainey Wilson, Kelly Clarkson…Who next?? By the way one out of four young adults have anxiety or depression. I am on an antidepressant and gained some but alive. I’m also a much happier and kinder person.
I would actually argue that Victorian fashion is way more achievable for a wide variety of body types than modern fashion. Because modern fashion has so few layers it is inevitable that the fashionable silhouette is synonymous with the body underneath, whereas Victorian and other historical styles achieve the fashionable silhouette through structure and padding of the garment.
Good point! I actually want to examine victorian fashion and see how it compares. I specifically want to look into the corset usage.
I had no idea that thin was back in, lol.
I know this is an old video but I wanted to point out a couple things:
In the video and in comment responses you mentioned non-binary people when trying to included them in the discussion around female bodies. Non-binary people in female-presenting bodies absolutely belong in this discussion, but I think this shows a subconscious default you have towards non-binary people being female, as people in male and intersex or other androgynous bodies would not be affected by these topics in the same way female bodies are. This contributes to the erasure of non-binary people in masculine and androgynous bodies, and the female-skewed social assumptions about non-binary people.
Also, you’ve gotten many comments on his already, but the section about race and Fearing the Black Body felt awkward and crammed in there for the sake if being PC. It lacked nuance around how black people (women in this case) may have higher rates of obesity from systemic issues and the types of food people have access to. It can be interpreted that you implied that obesity or being overweight is a natural state of blackness, which is wrong. I think that the relationship between race and body standards deserves it’s own, better researched and thought-out discussion.
It’s great that you’re open to learning and are trying to include everyone from different communities, but here it was stretched too thin and fell flat to me and other viewers.
Hi! I appreciate this comment and I feel like I have learned so much since making this video. There are definitely parts I would change or exclude because I agree I think I included them but didn't do a great job actually fleshing them out or carefully crafting them. I also feel like sometimes I try to include different perspectives because I don't want people to feel like I haven't considered the non-white, cis, het perspective, but in hindsight I feel like it can feel forced or inauthentic. I feel like this video taught me a lot, and there are times I feel like taking it down or reworking it ( and I still might) because I would do things a lot differently now. But if I did I wouldn't be able to learn from people leaving helpful critiques of my content. So thank you a lot for this well constructed piece of feedback!
really sad that this is happening AGAIN did people not learn from the last decade!!!!
M glad that its back officially in style as bbw will not have chance to skinny shame girls
So being obesity is better? Why do people always hate on skinny girls? Being to big can cause health problems as well.That's not feminism that's toxic feminism if you hate on people for just being skinny 🙄
I'm 36, i remember this all. I was 300lbs at the time and people were ruthless, not just my peers. I am fit now. However i have always thought 2000s fashion was hideous even back then. Even though i can fit in all now. I would never wear any of those things.
Gen z really seems to like 80s, 90s and early 2000s fashion. There seemed to be a moment where they made their own style but it was short lived.
Low rise jeans will always show the top of your crack like a plumber.
You did a very great job!
Thank you so much! :)
Can’t any human be skinny?
We didn’t wear those hideous sneakers then
Great video. Thank you!