yes love everyone of them, american classics !! todays trucks can never compare glad i grew up driving these trucks and still have a quadbox till this day
OK you Mack lovers. In 47 years I driven lots of Macks including the 12 speed. Nobody has ever shown me how to shift that deep reduction shifter mounted on the dash. I have tried every thing to get a smooth silky shift. Is it possible? Or is everybody happy to just grind it?
@@SternDrive So there is a deep reduction hidden in there somewhere? I've been wondering how a 5-speed with lo & hi (5 x 2 = 10) could produce 12 speeds.
The only one I ever drove had a short handle on the floor for the deep reduction. I was told it was mainly for working in a gravel pit where you needed power and low speeds for pulling. We also had a bunch of 350's with 10 speeds and a deep reduction switch mounted on the top of the dash. We used them pulling two trailers on the Thruway. @@SternDrive
15 years ago i got a job driving dump truck for the first time after driving a long time cross country over the road 18 speed trucks . I first drove a 1987 Mack Superliner very similar to the one your driving , it had a 650 Detroit motor , my god that truck had power , fully loaded with dirt T & T 55-60 mph up steep mountain pass while others only 25-30 lol . Today i still drive dump truck for a big union construction company here in seattle i drive a 2020 Kenworth T880 and yep it’s a automatic lol . Great job on this instructional video my brotha 👊🏻🇺🇸
If you drive in Boston on a daily basis in a truck, you arent going to lose your cool over being on camera...lol. This is the difference between a professional and steering wheel holders.
Have an 83 round light. Love that truck. Always amazed me how the each of the older Mack’s had there own personality. They trained you how to drive them!!
Well done. I had an 81 R-700 log truck with a 12 spd. It's evident that you take great pride in your career. Clean truck, smooth shifts and not a jake brake shifting cowboy. Thanks for posting these vids.
@@TheBostonTrucker I drove a Mack like this many years ago. We were pulling Tridem belly dumps, and the job often required that we go very fast in reverse. Of course these trucks had 5 reverse gears. I have never been all the way up to 5th reverse, but I have been in 4th reverse many times. You better know how to back in these situations.
Your granddaddy taught you right I had an old farmer friend that taught me the same I went to get in the passenger seat an he said nope what are you doin get in the drivers seat I was like what he said you aren’t gonna learn if you don’t get in the drivers seat an do it yourself I was like um yes sir 🤣
Wow...what memories this video brings back! Decades ago, I drove the one-and-only Mack Superliner (in the fleet) of Sharkey Transportation (Qunicy, IL)...nobody else wanted "any part of it", so I jumped at the opportunity (truck once belonged to a guy leased to Sharkey, hauling "swinging meat" to the West Coast). All Mack...front-to-back, top-to-bottom...had the time of my life!
Nice driving and a cool old truck! That gearbox works a lot like the one on my old Scania. Only thing´s the Scanias gearbox is syncronized so you have to use the clutch when shifting. The splitter works like a pre-select. You select low or direct and then it shifts when you depress the clutch.
As someone who drives dump truck as well as flatbed and lowboy, many times we have to back into the paver with asphalt and if there isn't anywhere to turn, we can end up backing up for a mile or two or three. Then being able to shift gears in reverse is incredibly handy.
Cool! I just recently got a chance to hop into one of our older tractors with a Fuller 10 speed and took it for a spin around the parking lot. Didn't get out of 3rd but it did make me smile! And surprised (shocked?!) the guys hanging around the garage. I drove coach buses for almost 20 years and my last stick was only 6 speed. But I could shift that thing like a hot knife thru butter! I listened to the old timers and learned my lessons well. Driving any older vehicle with manual gears means that you need to listen and most important, feel your way into the gears. Stay safe out there and I'll try to wave if I get up your way!
Great video! Very informative! Thanks for all the commentary throughout the video. You’re a true professional! Professionalism is the greatest component lacking from the trucking industry these days. It’s nice to see that it still exists out there! I also appreciate the lack of foul language in this video too. It’s nice to be able to show my boys how true trucking is done, and not hear a bunch of words I don’t want them to repeat. You’d be a great mentor for some young men out there just getting their feet wet in the industry. Thanks again!
@@TheBostonTrucker Hand throttle stand on tank step to back up Cattle Pots. Backing 379 into a farmer's field entrance. to load cattle. That will separate the men from the boys. Love your videos
@@danvonbehren4852 you should see some of the lots my friends drive in and around garden city, KS they always seem to have to raise the end dump in order to clear turns
I always liked Kenworths because the mirrors weren't mounted to the doors. When I was pulling rolloff trailers I did a lot of backing up and getting in and out of the cab.
I knew my fair share of truckers in my lifetime, and when I am on the highway, I give a good three to four car lengths and lots of signal when passing/maneuvering around the big-rigs, I don't usually interact with them entering or exiting the highway, but when I see them coming on, I move over and make way for them, my little car is a lot easier to maneuver and stop than a loaded big-rig.
My father started driving at age 46, hauling farm equipment for a IHC, then Case IH dealer from 1983 to 2003, I rode with him a few times, I've always thought all people should have to a few times, they might do like you and I do and try to make their job a little less difficult instead of more difficult, by the way I drive when near trucks. Its not that hard, just consider how hard it can be. My father would talk about a mom in a minivan with kids pulling out from a service road right in front of him doing 55 or 60 on the edge of a city, "lady (!) I'm hauling 80,000 lbs. and a wide load, I cant just stop on a dime !" He wished the soccer moms could hear it. "One of these days I'm just gonna go right over the top of you 'cause you pulled out right in front of me and I cant stop". Before the boss insisted it was time to update to a newer used truck, my dad drove a 1980 International Eagle with the Cummins big cam 3. He never wanted to part with it. Aneroid I think he called it, had been adjusted by the mechanic, it was plenty fueled up, he'd haul 2 combines, climbing a long hill on I-80 passing the other trucks, with black smoke rolling as he tells it. At the next truck stop occasionally another driver would ask what was under the hood. And it had more legroom and rode smoother than other trucks according to him. And getting it out of a muddy field, while loaded with a tractor, where the farmer would say : I figured there's no way you're getting ouf of that field, especially loaded. Miss you dad, it made for some great stories😊
Paving companies use multiple reverse gears so when they are backing up to the hopper at a good distance away they can go faster to keep up with the run
I like how you play with the throttle before you let the clutch out. I try that in this 2018 Mack but it doesn't make those good diesel sounds! Takes all the fun out of it!
I lived in Foxboro in the winter of 2010-2011 when Boston got so much snow that they were literally trucking it out Gilette stadium in rigs like yours. Brings back lots of fond memories!
After watching this guy row thru those gears... Shit I feel as if I could drive a 12 speed and not mess up! Great video instructional and play by play on the gears and switching.
If I have to take a shit and if I will clutch in, everyone knows what will happen, just shift´em in without clutch :D It takes a little bit of practice, but in full synchromesh 5speed manual you can shift without clutch too.. but carefull, because if you´ll grind´em too much, synchros will go to the hell :D
@@piter_sk A szinkronizált váltóval kibasol,ha kuplung nélkül erőlteted a váltást..Ha kopott a váltó akkor segíthetsz neki a gázfröccsel váltásnál..felfelé kb 150-200 fordulat ,visszaváltásnál 200-250 fordulat..Ha még jó állapotú a váltó akkor ez annyira nem jó mert a szinkrongyűrűknek magasabb fordulatról kell lefékezni a fogaskerekeket..Remélem jól értettem amit angolul írtál..
@@zsoltlukacs8438 sorry Zsolt, Im not Hungarian, my grand grand father was from Nagy Czéteny (Veľký Cetín) and I have just surname from him :) but I will translate it... after translation - those synchrone rings as you have called it, allright, pushing on stick for so long can damage them.... but why would I push or pull on stick for so long when I already know when i need to get in into gear with no resistance from synchro rings ;)
Best mack trans ever made... nice job showing the sequence. just a note. the air splitter on the stick shifts between direct and Hi (and reverse) the dash switch is the extended range for "LO"... LO was only needed for extreme heavy or slow speeds . IIRC when in Lo was only used in the first gear position.mack used slightly different terminology than eaton fuller... great videos and keep up the good work
The only 12 speed I ever drove was the one before the dash switch for the LO-Lo, it had d, od and R on the valve on the main stick and then a “mud stick” for deep reduction like the 6 speeds had.
Thank you for great video! I started with good ole' cabover Mack F700 Maxidyne with 375hp and 15 gears shifter similar like your!5 speed low+5speed high+5 speed reverse! It was a great truck and very comfortable!That truck could anything without a problem!
I used to drive an ERF with a twin splitter. Very similar, if my memory is right, it had three positions on the splitter switch though and 4 selectable “gears” in the gate. Only used the clutch for starting and stopping
After driving school that was the transmission in the truck I drove for my first job. RS600 235hp dump truck. It was a great transmission. Then they put me in a RS600 with a 15 speed and 315hp. Then a RS600 with 10 speed snd 350hp. Hated that transmission with a passion. Now 35 years later I’m happy as can be with my 18 speed.
Definitely a good video to make! I remember my first day when I started at Blair, I drove the bosses pride and joy Mack Superliner and I had never drove a Mack 12. He showed me real quick and I was off to the races. Definitely intimidating if you’re used to a newer truck with an 18 speed or an 8LL dump truck haha.
I've used Mack boxes from the old twin stick quad boxes to the 12 speed in this video and the best thing I can tell you is don't get too stressed about it all. Try things, experiment, and always, always, watch your revs and if you remember everything that didn't work, you'll soon have everything that DID work stenciled on your brain. Then one day, you'll be heading up the track, changing gears without thinking about and suddenly wonder when it got so easy. Those old Mack boxes were just the best and every time I see a Mack with a Road Ranger in it, all I can think is, "Why?"
Good no bullshit clip ,keep safe mate ,V8 Macks are still a legend truck in Australia,many doing a lot of hard work with three trailers behind them in the Outback.
Stumbled across this last night while watching TV with the Princess, I went turn it off as I though she wouldn't be interested, "what did you do that for, I was learning to drive Mrs Mack" that's what my old Mack is called I almost never use 1st at all and start off in second low, 3rd low, 4th low, 4th high, 5th low, 5th high and we are rolling at 35 MPH lol Dunno if you spilt all the gears to show how to drive it for your viewers or thats normal for you One thing that needs to be always remembered is that as soon as you flick the switch it is applying pressure to the selector fork and gears and wearing it out, a Roadranger only applies pressure when you shift the stick thru the neutral gate So a Mack box should only have the swittch flicked as your about to change and a Roadranger can be at any time Great video, I enjoy them Thank you
Thanks Paul for your feedback. I don't usually split all the gears, just when it's needed and you are correct, split during the shifting process which is something I learned after I made this video.
I’ve been getting this video recommended to me for months, I’m a truck driver so I watch truck videos. I kept ignoring it because I’m not a Mack guy. But boy I chose to watch it tonight and I love this guy
LOL, had to laugh when you said "for the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to shift gears in reverse". I know what you mean. Years ago I owned an '83 Cruiseliner with a 6-speed (I was hauling HHG), and it was set up the same way. I was pulling a 48-ft van, I may have shifted in reverse once, it was too tricky. Once or twice I went all the way to top gear in reverse, bobtailing through the yard, just to see what it was like. Too scary, probably got up to 25 or 30 in reverse. This is a good video, good explanation of the whole process. It's just not as much fun driving the new automatics now.
I was doing paving work with a mack transmission with numerous reverse gears. Backing to the paver was handy with multi speed reverse, I could actually keep up with those new fangled automatics.
In straight trucks it’s very handy. Dumps and water trucks. I’ve backed many miles with Mack trans. Always appreciated the higher gears when you’re backing half a mile plus
As far as double clutching, I've been driving 40 years. I learned double clutching and still do it. As my Dad said "If they didn't want you to use the clutch, they would put an automatic in it." He's still driving after 60 years.
I was taught to double clutch, I still do when I need to but I’d say half the time I use no clutch, that’s when I’m on a flat and have some momentum. I’ll still clutch shifting up or down when drivelines “loaded up”, but if I can slide the shifter out and back in without any force I don’t use the clutch.
Sometimes it's easier to downshift with the clutch like going slightly down hill or working with traffic. Without the clutch, and slight pressure against the next gear; some trucks down shift very naturally this way, some don't. Every truck is different. No issues with floating if it doesn't require but two fingers of pressure - then you're doing it right too.
Thats a cool video, my dad is a truck driver here in Scotland. 1st time ive ever seen shifting in reverse. I love the American trucks, to big for the British roads right enough. Always wanted to drive them but my dad told me to get a trade so unfortunately i just have to watch you guys 👍
This brings back memories when I hauled coal out of solar sourse coal mine. I first started out in a 66 mack 250 horse. The I went to a 400 horse . The last truck I drove was a 427 mack with a ten speed wrap around.
After all the years of driving Mack r’s and all kinds of trucks with door mounted mirrors, I never thought to open the door to check for traffic. I see that truck has the good old pull kill. Kids today would probably have no idea how shut it down lol.
You can also shift in reverse with a 4x4, 5x4, 5x6, etc. I drove a 69 GMC 6900 with 671 detroit and 4x4, and I used to shift in reverse all the time loaded, because it was momentum that got you thru the sugar sand to where the house pad was. Coming out, you let the load give you a push, stay in the tracks you made coming in, do not shift, light throttle until you get back on the hardtop. You mash the gas on the sand and you are stuck! One hard truck to drive was an old Dodge 671 with 5x4 spicer air shift. I know some one who fried one being cowboy and in a hurry. Didn’t understand the concept of using your gears according to load and terrain. Good video, never saw a mack with super 12 before. Why do they call it that, I only saw you shift 10?
glad to see another Mack vid old school will always rule. have tried to float the twins in my Diamond T 980 but the detent on the 1940's Fuller main box is so tight you got to smack it in and out but the aux is smooth so lass to say i am a half rookie and use the clutch lol
Love your videos! Basically like you said it’s a glorified Super 10.....the shifting gears in reverse is pretty cool though....drove an old R model with a two stick 6 speed before and I loved it! I have a real appreciation for cool old trucks and drivers who take pride in their trucks and their job! Well done driver!
My dad had R models when he was in business. Oh I remember the look of disappointment when I’d scratch a gear when he was teaching me how to drive. “If you can’t find ‘em, grind ‘em.” Great memories with pops
For some reason I'm reminded of the 2013 Mack my dad drove for a few years. With the tank empty it would get up and run with that 6 speed auto but fully loaded that beast couldn't even get out of its own way.
Try that with an older 12 speed and expect lots of gear grinding. With the older 12 speed complete the main box shift before using the spliter to shift to the lower gear. Going from lo to direct just move spliter let off throttle and it will up shift. If it's an overdrive Mack uses Hi instead of direct, direct is for a direct drive transmission. If your going to down shift with the spliter move to lo release throttle then get back on and the transmission will down shift just like a 2 speed drive axle
Yield really means to let the vehicle through, so you merge over to the next lane which is signalling to the traffic behind you have yielded. After yielding, you just merge back on the lane you were on. Yield, let em through. Merge, just changing lanes mindin my business.
not sure about merica but in canada you " yield to oncoming traffic who are merging onto the highway " depends if your coming or going.lol plus i learnt to use the whole length of the merge lane and not just cut in. love the accent! hate the hockey team !! cheers from vancouver
Great job thanks for posting!! I have always liked the Super Puppies. I'd like a video of the R-600, a good friend of mine had a 72 R-600 he hauled chemicals with ( it had been a Chemical Leman tractor ), his had a 6 cyl Mack Engine with a 5 speed gearbox, also a throttle lock for running the pump for offloading, the Superliner and R-600 cabs always appeared to have the same sheetmetal of course a different nose and updated interior.
I drove one like that for a couple of years, it was fun to drive, very similar to driving a 2sp rear end truck (5+2) only the split on those is obviously in the rear end not the transmission. Nobody in trucking uses a clutch and with automatics taking over, this will all be something the kids today look at and not have a clue what to do with.
Loved the video. I'm a trucker from the frozen tip of Maine. Them old Mack's are hard to find glad to see not all are in the scrap yard yet. First transmission I learned on wasn't nearly as technical as that. Learned to drive on an Eaton 10spd then my friend tried me out on his 02 Pete 379 with the 15 Spd. Both are rookie numbers compared to that since it almost works like a Lightning 10 which screw you up.
One of my favorite trucks is the super liner that transmission is a fantastic transmission they made especially since it has super low gearing that’s just awesome. If I can buy a superliner one day for my business, old truck is staying polished up with a gold bulldog on the hood 💪🏼💪🏼 Superliner with the V8 in it… ohhh yeah. The sound and the smoke out the pipes 👌🏼minty
Neat video mate you're a good driver. These old 12 speed Mack Superliners though sound their best when towing a loaded triple road train of side tippers or flat tops. From the Great Southern Land of Australia
Don’t forget the deep reduction switch on the dashboard. If I remember if you used two hands you could shift out of deep reduction and into L 1. Over 20 years since I drove a 12 speed.
They are so simple to drive, i love them. Less stick stirring than a roadranger, you can always pick a maxitorque driver, hes the guy that wins all the thumb wrestling competitions 😂
And I'm sure like the super 10 there's plenty that hate them. Never did I understand the hatred for the super 10 transmission. Most people say "that's too much splitting with each gear". I think they are fun to drive.
I taught myself how to drive on a 69 Mack cabover we bought, v8 mack, quadraplex, twin stick, ceramic clutch, no power anything, wig wag , it was a beast. Fun old truck..
I drove a Mack DM packer truck with the mud stick in back of a 237 not braking any speed records with that set up big rears all power but that had 5 speeds in reverse it’s good for hopping from container to container I only ever used 3rd gear in reverse
Cool one to learn!! I got into this game too late. I was a heavy truck technician for 7 years before getting my cdl. Companies want you to have your cdl but won't pay for it. This company paid for it. Got my CDL A with manual transmission. Had to find a manual truck to test in even. I drive 10 speeds often. Haven't found a 13 speed to practice with. In the last two years thing quickly went to automated manual. I don't actually hate the allison automatic but have my problems with many of the automated manuals.
@@trentwheeler6161 I hate them. The hi low splitter is backwards to most trucks out there. I don't know what Mack was thinking when they came out with this transmission.
Thanks for this video. Very informative and enjoyed watchin'. Working on my CDL, startin' on Monday. Really enjoyin' the content, and any tips and tricks for a new driver would be great. One day, I'll own one these ol' Mack trucks, or a GMC. 👍🏻
Love it! Learned how to drive manual on my dad’s ‘94 Kenworth tri-axle. Clutch never hit the floor and I went through every “cheater” gear there was. Safe driving and hopefully see you this summer at Gear Jammer.
the 12 speed Mack was super common in Australia......used a lot on road train work during the 1980's and 1990's. Working hard at 80 tons plus, there were famous for absolutely howling under load as they went past. They were also known to spin a bearing in the aluminum housing which was a problematic repair. The 14,16 speed spicers were much more difficult since the gaps between main gears are not uniform, and when changing from splitter range 2 to 3, its a complicated drop rpm,let one splitter shift, then gently raise the rpms for the second split to shift.........when that happens, you have completed the splitter position shift from 2 to 3. Spicers are complicated.
about yielding, im new but i notice for certain if I give them that lane chaos breaks ground, and next thing you know i'm stuck out in the fast lane with a RV on the right, so in almost every scenario I let up in advance.
Can’t beat those old school Mack’s. Do you remember the R models with the five speed transmission. My first truck straight out of truck driving school.
Great job on the video and sweet Mack! I'm not a trucker but would love to have an old R Model just to play around with for nostalgia and maybe a toy hauler. My granddad owned a logging company and a fleet of Macks when I was little. My dad taught me how to drive his 1982 R Model with 6 speed twin stick when I was 10 and I would drive it around my granddads shop for a couple of years until he sold the truck.
Give me an 18 speed Maxitorque any day! Strongest box I’ve ever known. The only problem is when they blow up suddenly it is usually catastrophic failure unless you catch it early. Tri countershaftes will do that. Thank you for your post mate. You took me back to my apprenticeship 🇦🇺
The 12 speed ,2 stick 6 speed & the 18 & 20 speed quadbox. Some of the best Transmissions Mack ever made.
yes love everyone of them, american classics !! todays trucks can never compare glad i grew up driving these trucks and still have a quadbox till this day
OK you Mack lovers. In 47 years I driven lots of Macks including the 12 speed. Nobody has ever shown me how to shift that deep reduction shifter mounted on the dash. I have tried every thing to get a smooth silky shift. Is it possible? Or is everybody happy to just grind it?
@@SternDrive So there is a deep reduction hidden in there somewhere? I've been wondering how a 5-speed with lo & hi (5 x 2 = 10) could produce 12 speeds.
The only one I ever drove had a short handle on the floor for the deep reduction. I was told it was mainly for working in a gravel pit where you needed power and low speeds for pulling. We also had a bunch of 350's with 10 speeds and a deep reduction switch mounted on the top of the dash. We used them pulling two trailers on the Thruway. @@SternDrive
That reduction gear you activate on the dash only works in 1 gear or in 1 reverse.
“Smooth as buttah”.......great job
No rattles.......back when trucks were made outta something!!
"it's gonna rattle...it's a MACK thing" lol love it, rode in a lotta old MACKs with my Dad as a kid...the old late 70s with 2 sticks.
That's right!
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This guy would be the perfect mobster dumping bodies fast and efficient he's got the lingo down pat just saying
Lmao
No, because he actually works for a living instead of stealing and killing.
15 years ago i got a job driving dump truck for the first time after driving a long time cross country over the road 18 speed trucks . I first drove a 1987 Mack Superliner very similar to the one your driving , it had a 650 Detroit motor , my god that truck had power , fully loaded with dirt T & T 55-60 mph up steep mountain pass while others only 25-30 lol . Today i still drive dump truck for a big union construction company here in seattle i drive a 2020 Kenworth T880 and yep it’s a automatic lol . Great job on this instructional video my brotha 👊🏻🇺🇸
Man I have never watched a video with a guy this cool and relaxed. I respect you sir. Thanks for the moment
You made my day! Thank you very much!
If you drive in Boston on a daily basis in a truck, you arent going to lose your cool over being on camera...lol. This is the difference between a professional and steering wheel holders.
Have an 83 round light. Love that truck. Always amazed me how the each of the older Mack’s had there own personality. They trained you how to drive them!!
That's so true
Well done. I had an 81 R-700 log truck with a 12 spd. It's evident that you take great pride in your career. Clean truck, smooth shifts and not a jake brake shifting cowboy. Thanks for posting these vids.
Thank you so much I appreciate that.
@@TheBostonTrucker I drove a Mack like this many years ago. We were pulling Tridem belly dumps, and the job often required that we go very fast in reverse. Of course these trucks had 5 reverse gears. I have never been all the way up to 5th reverse, but I have been in 4th reverse many times. You better know how to back in these situations.
“You see the black smoke coming out... beautiful!” hahaha
Yes it is 👍💯
Granddaddy taught me clutch is for 1st and reverse
Great to see a Brother anywhere I go! Safe travels my friend,
theodore jackson zzz
Your granddaddy taught you right I had an old farmer friend that taught me the same I went to get in the passenger seat an he said nope what are you doin get in the drivers seat I was like what he said you aren’t gonna learn if you don’t get in the drivers seat an do it yourself I was like um yes sir 🤣
@@adamkentisaac Prince of the Power of the Air. Good luck on that journey
My uncle Bill has the same truck not sure how many speed It is but it's sweet looking
"I'm just pullin outta de yaaaaaaaaahd heeah"
Hahahaha
Stupid lol
Boston accent lol
Just put a 15 speed Eaton fuller in it much simpler !
Give me a 13 or 15 speed any day over that !
"30 miles an hour getting on the highway going to piss everybody off that's the way it is this is an old truck"
They'll get over it.
Rule #1, F**k em'.
@@groneass2006 Pretty much lol
Great video,,,,mack used to be a work horse,,,really liked the super liner,,,,DM 800,,,,RD800,,,,,nothing like driving
Wow...what memories this video brings back! Decades ago, I drove the one-and-only Mack Superliner (in the fleet) of Sharkey Transportation (Qunicy, IL)...nobody else wanted "any part of it", so I jumped at the opportunity (truck once belonged to a guy leased to Sharkey, hauling "swinging meat" to the West Coast). All Mack...front-to-back, top-to-bottom...had the time of my life!
Nice driving and a cool old truck! That gearbox works a lot like the one on my old Scania. Only thing´s the Scanias gearbox is syncronized so you have to use the clutch when shifting. The splitter works like a pre-select. You select low or direct and then it shifts when you depress the clutch.
This is the best old school trucking channel on you tube love all these videos keep up the great work thanks taking the time to upload 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Oh dude that's to kind of you! There's way better channels than mine! Thank you I appreciate it!
Been watching you tube for a lot of year in my opinion you take home the cake keep doing what your doing we all really appreciate it also
You're the best! Thanks again
As someone who drives dump truck as well as flatbed and lowboy, many times we have to back into the paver with asphalt and if there isn't anywhere to turn, we can end up backing up for a mile or two or three. Then being able to shift gears in reverse is incredibly handy.
Great point!!!!
Cool! I just recently got a chance to hop into one of our older tractors with a Fuller 10 speed and took it for a spin around the parking lot. Didn't get out of 3rd but it did make me smile! And surprised (shocked?!) the guys hanging around the garage.
I drove coach buses for almost 20 years and my last stick was only 6 speed. But I could shift that thing like a hot knife thru butter! I listened to the old timers and learned my lessons well. Driving any older vehicle with manual gears means that you need to listen and most important, feel your way into the gears. Stay safe out there and I'll try to wave if I get up your way!
Great video! Very informative! Thanks for all the commentary throughout the video. You’re a true professional! Professionalism is the greatest component lacking from the trucking industry these days. It’s nice to see that it still exists out there! I also appreciate the lack of foul language in this video too. It’s nice to be able to show my boys how true trucking is done, and not hear a bunch of words I don’t want them to repeat. You’d be a great mentor for some young men out there just getting their feet wet in the industry. Thanks again!
Thank you very much Aaron. I'm really happy you enjoyed my video.
Love the sound of those old 350 Mack motors.
Hahahah, why the hell have I never thought of that mirror trick for checking traffic.
I always used that truck backing up 379 Peterbilts into loading docks or truck stops.
Oscar Hansen I always stuck my head out the window. Doors stay locked at all times.
@@TheBostonTrucker Hand throttle stand on tank step to back up Cattle Pots. Backing 379 into a farmer's field entrance. to load cattle. That will separate the men from the boys. Love your videos
@@danvonbehren4852 you should see some of the lots my friends drive in and around garden city, KS they always seem to have to raise the end dump in order to clear turns
I always liked Kenworths because the mirrors weren't mounted to the doors. When I was pulling rolloff trailers I did a lot of backing up and getting in and out of the cab.
Very nice job 👍
I drove all R,RU,F,B Model Mack's,all with Mack transmissions..
Non of that Volvo BS Mack crap.. LOL 😀
That ol' dog sounds awesome! Loved the video, thanks for showing us an old classic! And you ARE smooth as anything in there!
I knew my fair share of truckers in my lifetime, and when I am on the highway, I give a good three to four car lengths and lots of signal when passing/maneuvering around the big-rigs, I don't usually interact with them entering or exiting the highway, but when I see them coming on, I move over and make way for them, my little car is a lot easier to maneuver and stop than a loaded big-rig.
Thank you for doing that
My father started driving at age 46, hauling farm equipment for a IHC, then Case IH dealer from 1983 to 2003, I rode with him a few times, I've always thought all people should have to a few times, they might do like you and I do and try to make their job a little less difficult instead of more difficult, by the way I drive when near trucks. Its not that hard, just consider how hard it can be. My father would talk about a mom in a minivan with kids pulling out from a service road right in front of him doing 55 or 60 on the edge of a city, "lady (!) I'm hauling 80,000 lbs. and a wide load, I cant just stop on a dime !" He wished the soccer moms could hear it. "One of these days I'm just gonna go right over the top of you 'cause you pulled out right in front of me and I cant stop". Before the boss insisted it was time to update to a newer used truck, my dad drove a 1980 International Eagle with the Cummins big cam 3. He never wanted to part with it. Aneroid I think he called it, had been adjusted by the mechanic, it was plenty fueled up, he'd haul 2 combines, climbing a long hill on I-80 passing the other trucks, with black smoke rolling as he tells it. At the next truck stop occasionally another driver would ask what was under the hood. And it had more legroom and rode smoother than other trucks according to him. And getting it out of a muddy field, while loaded with a tractor, where the farmer would say : I figured there's no way you're getting ouf of that field, especially loaded. Miss you dad, it made for some great stories😊
I just love manual transmission there’s just a joy when shifting through gears especially in a big truck it’s very fun even the twin sticks
Couldn't agree more!
Paving companies use multiple reverse gears so when they are backing up to the hopper at a good distance away they can go faster to keep up with the run
I like how you play with the throttle before you let the clutch out. I try that in this 2018 Mack but it doesn't make those good diesel sounds! Takes all the fun out of it!
That's so funny because sometimes I make fun of drivers revving up the throttle! 😄
@@TheBostonTrucker and here you are doing it 😂 almost as bad as one of those motorcycle guys
Exactly! I suck! 🙋🤣
Funny when you said " get yourself 1 of those push button transmissions "🤣🤣
Great video Mike!!
I lived in Foxboro in the winter of 2010-2011 when Boston got so much snow that they were literally trucking it out Gilette stadium in rigs like yours. Brings back lots of fond memories!
I remember those years when it use to snow in the Winter.
I've got a 1970 Mack u 237 5-speed six wheeler they just don't make them like that these days! Great job as usual thanks for the uploads👍
After watching this guy row thru those gears... Shit I feel as if I could drive a 12 speed and not mess up! Great video instructional and play by play on the gears and switching.
Thank you very much, I know you can do it too.
If I have to take a shit and if I will clutch in, everyone knows what will happen, just shift´em in without clutch :D It takes a little bit of practice, but in full synchromesh 5speed manual you can shift without clutch too.. but carefull, because if you´ll grind´em too much, synchros will go to the hell :D
@@piter_sk A szinkronizált váltóval kibasol,ha kuplung nélkül erőlteted a váltást..Ha kopott a váltó akkor segíthetsz neki a gázfröccsel váltásnál..felfelé kb 150-200 fordulat ,visszaváltásnál 200-250 fordulat..Ha még jó állapotú a váltó akkor ez annyira nem jó mert a szinkrongyűrűknek magasabb fordulatról kell lefékezni a fogaskerekeket..Remélem jól értettem amit angolul írtál..
@@zsoltlukacs8438 sorry Zsolt, Im not Hungarian, my grand grand father was from Nagy Czéteny (Veľký Cetín) and I have just surname from him :) but I will translate it... after translation - those synchrone rings as you have called it, allright, pushing on stick for so long can damage them.... but why would I push or pull on stick for so long when I already know when i need to get in into gear with no resistance from synchro rings ;)
@@piter_sk i understand...sorry!i'am truck driver 20 years in hungary..i drive fully shyncronised manual 12-16 trans...
Best mack trans ever made... nice job showing the sequence. just a note. the air splitter on the stick shifts between direct and Hi (and reverse) the dash switch is the extended range for "LO"... LO was only needed for extreme heavy or slow speeds . IIRC when in Lo was only used in the first gear position.mack used slightly different terminology than eaton fuller... great videos and keep up the good work
The only 12 speed I ever drove was the one before the dash switch for the LO-Lo, it had d, od and R on the valve on the main stick and then a “mud stick” for deep reduction like the 6 speeds had.
Or older truck had a second gear on floor about 18 in long for lo lo in the compound part of transmission
Dean McKee that’s what we call the “mud stick” around here.
Thank you for great video!
I started with good ole' cabover Mack F700 Maxidyne with 375hp and 15 gears shifter similar like your!5 speed low+5speed high+5 speed reverse!
It was a great truck and very comfortable!That truck could anything without a problem!
Every time I hit a shlump in my career, I watch this channel and my fire is reignited. Fucking fantastic channel. " smooth as buttah " classic.
Thanks Joel your comment makes it all worth while! My last video is a continuation of this one.
I used to drive an ERF with a twin splitter. Very similar, if my memory is right, it had three positions on the splitter switch though and 4 selectable “gears” in the gate. Only used the clutch for starting and stopping
After driving school that was the transmission in the truck I drove for my first job. RS600 235hp dump truck. It was a great transmission.
Then they put me in a RS600 with a 15 speed and 315hp. Then a RS600 with 10 speed snd 350hp. Hated that transmission with a passion.
Now 35 years later I’m happy as can be with my 18 speed.
Definitely a good video to make! I remember my first day when I started at Blair, I drove the bosses pride and joy Mack Superliner and I had never drove a Mack 12. He showed me real quick and I was off to the races. Definitely intimidating if you’re used to a newer truck with an 18 speed or an 8LL dump truck haha.
I've used Mack boxes from the old twin stick quad boxes to the 12 speed in this video and the best thing I can tell you is don't get too stressed about it all. Try things, experiment, and always, always, watch your revs and if you remember everything that didn't work, you'll soon have everything that DID work stenciled on your brain. Then one day, you'll be heading up the track, changing gears without thinking about and suddenly wonder when it got so easy. Those old Mack boxes were just the best and every time I see a Mack with a Road Ranger in it, all I can think is, "Why?"
Good no bullshit clip ,keep safe mate ,V8 Macks are still a legend truck in Australia,many doing a lot of hard work with three trailers behind them in the Outback.
Sweet rig my guy. I'm just here for the sounds but you explained very well
Thank you 😊
Stumbled across this last night while watching TV with the Princess, I went turn it off as I though she wouldn't be interested, "what did you do that for, I was learning to drive Mrs Mack" that's what my old Mack is called
I almost never use 1st at all and start off in second low, 3rd low, 4th low, 4th high, 5th low, 5th high and we are rolling at 35 MPH lol
Dunno if you spilt all the gears to show how to drive it for your viewers or thats normal for you
One thing that needs to be always remembered is that as soon as you flick the switch it is applying pressure to the selector fork and gears and wearing it out, a Roadranger only applies pressure when you shift the stick thru the neutral gate
So a Mack box should only have the swittch flicked as your about to change and a Roadranger can be at any time
Great video, I enjoy them
Thank you
Thanks Paul for your feedback. I don't usually split all the gears, just when it's needed and you are correct, split during the shifting process which is something I learned after I made this video.
I’ve been getting this video recommended to me for months, I’m a truck driver so I watch truck videos. I kept ignoring it because I’m not a Mack guy. But boy I chose to watch it tonight and I love this guy
Thank you Alex! I hope you get a chance to watch more of my videos. Don't forget to subscribe! 😉
TheBostonTrucker I absolutely did subscribe !
LOL, had to laugh when you said "for the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to shift gears in reverse". I know what you mean. Years ago I owned an '83 Cruiseliner with a 6-speed (I was hauling HHG), and it was set up the same way. I was pulling a 48-ft van, I may have shifted in reverse once, it was too tricky. Once or twice I went all the way to top gear in reverse, bobtailing through the yard, just to see what it was like. Too scary, probably got up to 25 or 30 in reverse. This is a good video, good explanation of the whole process. It's just not as much fun driving the new automatics now.
I was doing paving work with a mack transmission with numerous reverse gears. Backing to the paver was handy with multi speed reverse, I could actually keep up with those new fangled automatics.
In straight trucks it’s very handy. Dumps and water trucks. I’ve backed many miles with Mack trans. Always appreciated the higher gears when you’re backing half a mile plus
As far as double clutching, I've been driving 40 years. I learned double clutching and still do it. As my Dad said "If they didn't want you to use the clutch, they would put an automatic in it." He's still driving after 60 years.
@David Gainey - I agree with what you are saying mate my father taught me like that as well, even though I do change with no clutch.
I was taught to double clutch, I still do when I need to but I’d say half the time I use no clutch, that’s when I’m on a flat and have some momentum. I’ll still clutch shifting up or down when drivelines “loaded up”, but if I can slide the shifter out and back in without any force I don’t use the clutch.
Sometimes it's easier to downshift with the clutch like going slightly down hill or working with traffic. Without the clutch, and slight pressure against the next gear; some trucks down shift very naturally this way, some don't. Every truck is different. No issues with floating if it doesn't require but two fingers of pressure - then you're doing it right too.
Thats a cool video, my dad is a truck driver here in Scotland.
1st time ive ever seen shifting in reverse.
I love the American trucks, to big for the British roads right enough.
Always wanted to drive them but my dad told me to get a trade so unfortunately i just have to watch you guys 👍
Thank you 😊
This is what I started driving with.. love em love em
This brings back memories when I hauled coal out of solar sourse coal mine. I first started out in a 66 mack 250 horse. The I went to a 400 horse . The last truck I drove was a 427 mack with a ten speed wrap around.
After all the years of driving Mack r’s and all kinds of trucks with door mounted mirrors, I never thought to open the door to check for traffic. I see that truck has the good old pull kill. Kids today would probably have no idea how shut it down lol.
Opening the door also comes in handy when backing into a spot.
First R model I drove had the pull lever to shut it down. I was confused for a second as to why the key didn’t shut it off lol
I’m 23 and I drive a 89 r model. I still don’t pull the stop long enough sometimes to shut the engine off. I love the old Mack’s
Shaun Drocher best trucks ever made
You can also shift in reverse with a 4x4, 5x4, 5x6, etc. I drove a 69 GMC 6900 with 671 detroit and 4x4, and I used to shift in reverse all the time loaded, because it was momentum that got you thru the sugar sand to where the house pad was. Coming out, you let the load give you a push, stay in the tracks you made coming in, do not shift, light throttle until you get back on the hardtop. You mash the gas on the sand and you are stuck! One hard truck to drive was an old Dodge 671 with 5x4 spicer air shift. I know some one who fried one being cowboy and in a hurry. Didn’t understand the concept of using your gears according to load and terrain. Good video, never saw a mack with super 12 before. Why do they call it that, I only saw you shift 10?
Great information! Thanks for sharing your wisdom! 12 speed because I forgot to mention the two lower gears on a switch on the dash.
@@TheBostonTrucker OK. Now show us how to shift that deep reduction dash shifter. I could never figure out how to shift it with out grinding.
That is one of the most versatile transmissions Mack ever made. Low gears plus easy shifting with 5 reverses!
Yes it is!
I absolutely hated the maxitorque I had to drive. I mean dreaded even going to work it was so bad
Thats one shinny gear stick and knob.
i just love the truck.
Good instructor material Mate.
Thank you mate 😄
glad to see another Mack vid old school will always rule. have tried to float the twins in my Diamond T 980 but the detent on the 1940's Fuller main box is so tight you got to smack it in and out but the aux is smooth so lass to say i am a half rookie and use the clutch lol
Hey Boston, nice video. I'm from the cape area myself. You are the man in that 12 speed.
I really appreciate it.
I started driving at 18 in 1987, learned in the Army and on twin stick Macks. My opinion is the Superliner is the nicest truck ever built
Fine video!
Like the mirror merge trick.
Just hope nothing is loose on the floor, it’s now on the ground.
Great video 👍 and a beautiful superliner
Thank you 😊
Love your videos! Basically like you said it’s a glorified Super 10.....the shifting gears in reverse is pretty cool though....drove an old R model with a two stick 6 speed before and I loved it! I have a real appreciation for cool old trucks and drivers who take pride in their trucks and their job! Well done driver!
Thank you 😊 have a great day!
Old trucks and old truck drivers rule!
My dad had R models when he was in business. Oh I remember the look of disappointment when I’d scratch a gear when he was teaching me how to drive. “If you can’t find ‘em, grind ‘em.” Great memories with pops
The best way to learn how to drive them!👍💯
For some reason I'm reminded of the 2013 Mack my dad drove for a few years. With the tank empty it would get up and run with that 6 speed auto but fully loaded that beast couldn't even get out of its own way.
Try that with an older 12 speed and expect lots of gear grinding. With the older 12 speed complete the main box shift before using the spliter to shift to the lower gear. Going from lo to direct just move spliter let off throttle and it will up shift.
If it's an overdrive Mack uses Hi instead of direct, direct is for a direct drive transmission.
If your going to down shift with the spliter move to lo release throttle then get back on and the transmission will down shift just like a 2 speed drive axle
Driving that Mack like a boss mike !!
Love this guy, in Australia yielding is called merging...Smooth.
Smooth! Got it! Thank you 😊
Yield really means to let the vehicle through, so you merge over to the next lane which is signalling to the traffic behind you have yielded. After yielding, you just merge back on the lane you were on.
Yield, let em through.
Merge, just changing lanes mindin my business.
Yield is more like giving way
@@H.EL-Othemany Exactly what I was saying. Perfectly put.
not sure about merica but in canada you " yield to oncoming traffic who are merging onto the highway " depends if your coming or going.lol
plus i learnt to use the whole length of the merge lane and not just cut in.
love the accent! hate the hockey team !! cheers from vancouver
Mmmmm, the sound of that rig gives me the shivers!
Great job thanks for posting!!
I have always liked the Super Puppies.
I'd like a video of the R-600, a good friend of mine had a 72 R-600 he hauled chemicals with ( it had been a Chemical Leman tractor ), his had a 6 cyl Mack Engine with a 5 speed gearbox, also a throttle lock for running the pump for offloading, the Superliner and R-600 cabs always appeared to have the same sheetmetal of course a different nose and updated interior.
I drove one like that for a couple of years, it was fun to drive, very similar to driving a 2sp rear end truck (5+2) only the split on those is obviously in the rear end not the transmission. Nobody in trucking uses a clutch and with automatics taking over, this will all be something the kids today look at and not have a clue what to do with.
Loved the video. I'm a trucker from the frozen tip of Maine. Them old Mack's are hard to find glad to see not all are in the scrap yard yet. First transmission I learned on wasn't nearly as technical as that. Learned to drive on an Eaton 10spd then my friend tried me out on his 02 Pete 379 with the 15 Spd. Both are rookie numbers compared to that since it almost works like a Lightning 10 which screw you up.
One of my favorite trucks is the super liner that transmission is a fantastic transmission they made especially since it has super low gearing that’s just awesome. If I can buy a superliner one day for my business, old truck is staying polished up with a gold bulldog on the hood 💪🏼💪🏼
Superliner with the V8 in it… ohhh yeah. The sound and the smoke out the pipes 👌🏼minty
One of my favorite Maxitorque transmission, great job driver! Greetings from Costa Rica Central America!
The old school style gear shift levers are so awesome ! Thanks for the demo.
Thank you
Neat video mate you're a good driver. These old 12 speed Mack Superliners though sound their best when towing a loaded triple road train of side tippers or flat tops.
From the Great Southern Land of Australia
Thank you very much.
I love the MACK 12. Had one in a 86 R.
Always signal and yield...great video!
Incredible truck, incredible driver. You are a awesome guy, hope you have many more awesome miles.
Thank you for reaching out.
Very nice 👍 I feel that all the new automatic trucks are taking the skill out of the job
Great video. I drove a Mack 12 speed and loved it.
Thank you
Didn't learn a thing, and I loved every second of this, love this vid, weldone, 😊😊😊
Very good demonstration well explained reminds me of a super 10 trans
Thank you, it's similar but with more functions.
Don’t forget the deep reduction switch on the dashboard. If I remember if you used two hands you could shift out of deep reduction and into L 1. Over 20 years since I drove a 12 speed.
Yes sir you know your trucks!
truck should be nicknamed THE BABY WEEEL....we ain't never seen nothin' like this before, Jay...
I hate that wheel!
They are so simple to drive, i love them. Less stick stirring than a roadranger, you can always pick a maxitorque driver, hes the guy that wins all the thumb wrestling competitions 😂
I'd love to drive that old mack.
I've rebuilt quite a few of those. Guys who have them seem to always love them
And I'm sure like the super 10 there's plenty that hate them. Never did I understand the hatred for the super 10 transmission. Most people say "that's too much splitting with each gear". I think they are fun to drive.
@@trentwheeler6161 They hate them because the splitter is backwards. What was Mack thinking?
I used to drive a Mack concrete mixer with multiple reverse. Came in handy when I had to back up a little over two miles to the job sight. :)
I bet it came in handy!
That brings back memories back when I was 18 and driving old mack dump trucks.
Awesome!!!
I can’t driv a Mack with one stick. Too new. I learned on a twin stick 5 n 4. 67r model. I do love me some super liner tho. Good work.
That's real trucking!
I taught myself how to drive on a 69 Mack cabover we bought, v8 mack, quadraplex, twin stick, ceramic clutch, no power anything, wig wag , it was a beast. Fun old truck..
That’s nothing compared to my quadruple stick in my Renault
D Kusiq oh yeah? Beat my quintiple stick.
I drove a Mack DM packer truck with the mud stick in back of a 237 not braking any speed records with that set up big rears all power but that had 5 speeds in reverse it’s good for hopping from container to container I only ever used 3rd gear in reverse
gotta love looking up a dogs arse my favorite truck r600
Cool one to learn!! I got into this game too late. I was a heavy truck technician for 7 years before getting my cdl. Companies want you to have your cdl but won't pay for it. This company paid for it. Got my CDL A with manual transmission. Had to find a manual truck to test in even. I drive 10 speeds often. Haven't found a 13 speed to practice with. In the last two years thing quickly went to automated manual. I don't actually hate the allison automatic but have my problems with many of the automated manuals.
I actually like the super 10 too but so many people complain about them.
@@trentwheeler6161 I hate them. The hi low splitter is backwards to most trucks out there. I don't know what Mack was thinking when they came out with this transmission.
that mirror and door trick !!! now i know
For you young folks this is what a real truck sounds like.
You got that right!
Thanks for this video. Very informative and enjoyed watchin'. Working on my CDL, startin' on Monday. Really enjoyin' the content, and any tips and tricks for a new driver would be great.
One day, I'll own one these ol' Mack trucks, or a GMC. 👍🏻
Love it! Learned how to drive manual on my dad’s ‘94 Kenworth tri-axle. Clutch never hit the floor and I went through every “cheater” gear there was. Safe driving and hopefully see you this summer at Gear Jammer.
the 12 speed Mack was super common in Australia......used a lot on road train work during the 1980's and 1990's. Working hard at 80 tons plus, there were famous for absolutely howling under load as they went past. They were also known to spin a bearing in the aluminum housing which was a problematic repair. The 14,16 speed spicers were much more difficult since the gaps between main gears are not uniform, and when changing from splitter range 2 to 3, its a complicated drop rpm,let one splitter shift, then gently raise the rpms for the second split to shift.........when that happens, you have completed the splitter position shift from 2 to 3. Spicers are complicated.
about yielding, im new but i notice for certain if I give them that lane chaos breaks ground, and next thing you know i'm stuck out in the fast lane with a RV on the right, so in almost every scenario I let up in advance.
You do a real good job...this is how to do it boys and girls...you won't learn this at your local trucking school in fact they will fail you..
Thanks I appreciate it.
Can’t beat those old school Mack’s. Do you remember the R models with the five speed transmission. My first truck straight out of truck driving school.
My first also Eli..'81 R model I drove it for 3 yrs..a great experience..
🙃😊🤪
That superline is one tough cookie very nice machine👍
Great job on the video and sweet Mack! I'm not a trucker but would love to have an old R Model just to play around with for nostalgia and maybe a toy hauler. My granddad owned a logging company and a fleet of Macks when I was little. My dad taught me how to drive his 1982 R Model with 6 speed twin stick when I was 10 and I would drive it around my granddads shop for a couple of years until he sold the truck.
You grew up the best way possible!
Give me an 18 speed Maxitorque any day! Strongest box I’ve ever known. The only problem is when they blow up suddenly it is usually catastrophic failure unless you catch it early. Tri countershaftes will do that. Thank you for your post mate. You took me back to my apprenticeship 🇦🇺
Deal!