Crazy how in a span of 3-5 years, Ducati went from having one of the slowest Superbike's with regards to straight line speed (1098-1198, not a dig at that bike btw it's one of my personal favorite motorcycles), to the 1199/1299 being near the front of the pack, and then the V4 just mopping the floor with just about everything. And their streetfighter bikes are still the most beautiful and elegant by a long shot!
They're not the best handling/riding bikes, though. I'd still buy my Super Duke again, it's so comfortable and easy to ride. That said, I am trying to figure out why the Ducati needs to be so powerful really, for what's a naked, wide-barred streetbike. The ZH2 in my personal experience isn't as fast as this one seems to be, I wonder if the european version is really that different from the North American one. I did a few roll-ons with my friend this spring and my 1290R pulled a bike length and kept it to over 200kph. I dunno.
@@SteveC-ShamanThe Duke has low end torque so it will excell in roll on acceleration. In a drag race the H2 will easily win. I have ridden the 790 and I agree it's a very easy to ride bike. Even though it was a friend's bike I took to it like a fish in water.
Loved these series of drag races and goes to show how much of a mental bike that zh2 is. I own one and it's the most fun bike I've owned. Always puts a smile on my face. To be fair, this is a reminder that *any* of these super naked bikes (MT-10, Super Duke, Tuono, M1000R etc) are hilarious and exactly what motorcycles are about.
this was a fun mini series and it’s great that it wasn’t a shut-out. the fact that the races were so close made this extremely fun to watch. watching that kawasaki lift that wheel just adds to the fun. can’t wait for the next mini series. maybe the same drag race with retro bikes like the triumph scrambler 1200, ducati 1100, and the indian ftr? nice job you guys !
Made me smile a lot.. for both bikes. Another point to pick one would be looks for me. The streetfighter has a timeless, unique appeal to it. It will look still stunning in 20 years
@@monkmoto1887 I couldn't pick a more different design philosophy if I tried.. Everything from proportions to design styling is completely different. The Z1000 is much bulkier and massive, with a U-shape from front to tail that looks like some kind of bug or prowling lion with a much pointier nose. Street Fighter v4 has much more balanced proportions. The line from the front to the tail is straight, like on superbikes, and the overall design is slicker and much more elegant. Z1000's design looks like a bodybuilder, while Street Fighter V4 looks more like Vetoria's secret model.
Looking at wsbk, MotoGP & their amazing V4 road bikes (& the rest of the range in fact)… Ducati is on such a roll right now. I’d say maybe even the best brand at the moment across most categories???
Oh they 100% are, not even a question about it. They're one of if not the best in every category they make bikes. However with that said, the streetbikes, the service and the accessories are overpriced. My friend recently bought a Multistrada v4s PP and it ended up at £25k and he didn't even spec it fully and despite paying THAT much heated grips and a centre stand was still optional extras on a bloody touring bike. So yes, they do make the best bikes but in my opinion atleast they're not worth the extra amount of money you need to spend, you do pay a premium just for it to say "Ducati" on the tank and some people like that and that's perfectly fine.
@alexm6340 your buddy has a 200+hp touring bike. Nobody else can say that. That's why they charge a premium. You pay the most and get the best performance
While I didn't think it was that close, the V4S pulled away every time, the price difference is quite the difference. A new V4S here in the US is $27500. Maybe the V4 performs the same in a straight line? However, the Z H2 is listed new here on the East Coast for $14,593! ($17500 is MSRP). That sure allows for a lot of modifications and personalization of it! And you won't have to go to a Ducati dealer for services, like getting that rear tire replaced. Thanks for the overall shootout, it was great to see!
I am Surprice where you find those Numbers for the H2 SE?They starts at 20 K and start means base Price.And we talking Stock Bikes its clear you can make a tune to the Engine but after this your Bike gonna loose Wrranty and its eaven not street legal any more.
@@Stclairm1 powerwise its actually the same Bike only the suspenssion is diffrend and wheels. But it wont be any diffrence if they take the Standard V4 Streetfighter the Result be the same
the Ducati is limited in 1st and 2nd then a little less in 3rd and 4th then only has full power in 5th and 6th that's the main reason it doesn't wheelie that much. along with wings and counter rotating crank. 2023 model has a full power mode in the menu that takes away restrictions but 99% of people are faster with the gear based power restrictions on. full power mode is just for fun and hooning. I had my 2022 streetfighter V4 SP dyno tuned and had gear restrictions removed permanently and I'm now slower on track but have more fun trying to hang on to it!
@@willspeakman2461 true, but i guess ducati are all about making the fastest bikes around a track. In their words they say the restrictions give you the most acceleration you can practically use in each gear. Just like moto GP bikes they control the power in each gear because you only need enough to make the front wheel light. Anymore and wheelie then you go slower
@@Herby-99 That's fine but I wish they had a full power option available from factory. Pretty insane they still restrict the power in higher gears. That engine must be incredible.
@@willspeakman2461 the new 2023 model does have a full power mode now because everyone was asking for it. Now that mine is unrestricted the power is insane, front wheel comes up anytime you go near the throttle with wheelie control turned off or set down low ofcourse
2 years ago I was deciding between the ZH2 and the V4S... I think I chose right with the ZH2 :) Once you get a proper tune (I got mine from Brentune), intake, Exhaust, the thing makes 251hp to the wheel!! It is properly NUTS lol. Awesome vids guys I was really looking forward to this mini series :)
I have the same bike and right now mines making 210 at the wheel with the tune. The problem is the charge temperatures wanted to ask what is yours running at wide-open throttle
Great to see Chris and Chad going at it! Thanks for the awesome entertainment guys! The Duc won but my money would still go to BMW. 3 year manufacturer warranty and I must say they have superb customer service. Of course ymmv
To be fair with Criss at the wheel the tuono outlunched the m1000r and Ducati... sure it lost in the end because of 30hp difference but what if Criss was on the bmw? Would that have won all the races?
proabbaly from onboard it look like they dont use full power on bmw cos shoft to earli 👌🏻 anyway it would be super close with v4 s but i quees bmw slightly would win it be 5 cm 😉
When you think that you hardly ever get 100 throttle on the ZH2! It's highly restricted - watch Moore Mafia tuning it! He shows the secondary throttle body position. In 5th (if I remember correctly) you get 100% for about 2,000 rpm up around 10,000 then the ECU begins to close it even though you have it pinned with your right hand...
Exhaust and flash for the ZH2, and it gets about another 40 horsepower. Then you're going to need better suspension. I've seen a rumor of a KTM 1390 Super Duke R in the works. Not sure it's true...
@@tomtraynor5384 Probably going to be pretty much a whole new engine. The current 1301cc engine has already been optimized a couple of times, with thinning materials and internal mass down to the minimum where it still generates the power but isn't unreliable with durability. Going another 100cc in displacement is probably going to require a redo of the entire engine. Assuming they stay with the Vtwin architecture. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any Twin-cylinder engine created over the years from any brand that attempts to be a sports-oriented twin, with around 1400cc or so displacement. Ducati is the only one in recent times who tried to absolutely maximize the horsepower a twin can produce before they just decided a V4 was the way forward for them. At some point your bore diameters get to be so large that it's difficult to fill the cylinder, get combustion expansion rates to also fill the cylinder, produce the power you want, but also spin the engine very fast (requiring a very short stroke due to too-high piston speeds and the limits of metal strength). If you go the direction of longer stroke, you have to limit RPM and then you deal with crazy torque forces trying to not blow the tire away at lower speeds and get hook.
Loved this. Actually learnt a lot about what bikes I don't want in my future. Only because I ride everyday and commute 40 weeks of the year. The thing about these vids is that a vast majority of bikers are looking to see if there are any bikes to aspire to owning. UNLIKE supercar vids which are just entertainment when one is having a poo.
Love my ZH2 SE, factor in the price difference and you could make a case for the H2. No idea why people flash these to 220hp at the wheel unless you are building a drag bike.
@@killjoysmakesomenoise668 True, but if you're looking to get one of these bikes and speed is the deciding factor, then an ECU flash for the Z is nothing when compared to the price difference. Stock Z is tuned to a max of 170hp and is reduced to 130hp when you get near redline.
Another video great 😎👍 I think the counter rotating crank really helps the Ducati and the way the zh2 makes it's best torque near the top works against it until you get into the high gears - whatever great fun !
Thank you for the video. As standard that Ducati, does not give full power. There is a bit of button pressing to get full power. I think I had to turn traction control off to get there for approx 20hp more.
I met up with an H2Z on the freeway with my Street Fighter V2 and had a blast shredding traffic and then met at the front of a red light. I took off without using Launch Control and even on the V2 I had him until 3rd gear. Also went out after that and ordered the wings! Haha
So... do you roll a three sided dice when you walk into the garage? :D If you had to pick one for street riding, A) would you be able to... and B) which one would it be?
i really wanna know if being heavier on a biek with ridiculous power would alow you to put more power down as you can prevent wheelies more anyone know anything bout this with bikes this powerful?
Fantastic videos. Totally agree that if I could point at any of those bikes and have it suddenly appear in my garage, I would point at the Ducati. BUT, if you told me I had 30K in my pocket, and I could take the MT10 and still have 14K in my pocket. Or, I could take the Ducati, but need to make payments on the remaining 7K. No doubt, I'm taking the MT10.
I've owned all of the bikes in this shootout other than the mt10. The secret to the v4s gettin off the line hard is ducati limiting power in the first few gears to reduce wheel lift on launch
Based on the M1000R's performance against the Ducati. I reckon it'll also beat the H2. Use BMW's launch control and see what it does then. MCN's tester Bruce Dunn did a 0-140mph in 9.99 secs during their speed tests, on the M1000R.
That Ducati is magical. It just gets the power down so well. Maybe it’s got something to do with the wings and the geometry. That rear wheel does come out a bit longer than the other bikes - much like drag bikes do.
@@mikemoggerson6651 , lmfao(?) For what? You must be a Ducati fanboy? Horsepower is not everything. I was surprised because I knew more about the ZH2 than I did about the V4S. I thought the H2 derived engine would hold it's own, despite being the heavier bike and having 11 less horses. I based my assumption on the turbo and the fact that the Kawasaki has 11 lbs/ft more torque; which is more important than horsepower when it comes to getting off the line.
@@traeucity6087 power to weight ratio is almost everything when it comes to straight line speed. Find a video where a vehicle with inferior power to weight wins in a drag race (barring no traction or horrible launch). everyone knows the street fighter V4 is the fastest naked in a straight line. I’m no Ducati fanboy (I like Aprilia more). But the facts are facts. And horsepower includes torque. Lower torque could just mean the bike is peaky and makes a ton of power up high (like the Ducati). Power is the measure of how much torque it makes over an interval, that’s why it’s the number that really matters. Power=torque x rpm.
@@mikemoggerson6651 , Is that why despite being over 100 lbs. heavier and having a lower power to weight ratio, the Kawasaki H2 beats the Ducati Superleggera V4, in a straight line (drag race)?
@@traeucity6087that’s mostly cuz of gearing. A stock H2 will lose badly to a stock superleggera in straight line. There’s no videos out there of bone stock Vs bone stock. Btw torque doesnt matter for top speed. I sincerely think you should look up the physics behind horsepower and torque on google before speaking. Old V8 and V10 f1 engines had very low torque because of their relatively low displacement and compression ratio. Yet they revved to the moon so they made 900+ HP, hence why they could hit 300 km/h in 10 seconds. Pls find any video of a heavier vehicle with less power beating a more powerful, lighter vehicle. The only other factors are aero and tires. Also look at the superleggera aero compared to a H2 lmao. One is designed for track riding, the other as a straight line beast.
That shows how good Street Fighter V4 putting down the power and pushing forward, really linear curves thru out rev range. Where ZH2 just here some torque, oh here more torque, you want some more torque
ok....in part 1 of this series Zh2 got 10.07sec.. 1/4 mile and in part 2 ducati has 10.53 sec 1/4 mile. so how come Zh2 can't beat ducati here? edit: all Im saying is .... an European bike (ducati) wins a drag race in an European youtube channel. something fishy
@@NimalYagami all im saying ducati is European .... and by the accent of these guys I can tell they are / this channel is also European. An European bike wins drag race final in an European channel.
You stayed the Kawasaki is a four cylinder inclined four. Are you sure you're not mistaken as it appears to be a twin parallel twin. Just wondering and looking for clarification. 😮
Ducati has been the best motorcycle maker for a while.... Being part of Volkswagen(Audi) group improved quality and tech a LOT to the point that they are basically unbeatable now.
Good fun that. I’d like to see a 90’s super bike vs its modern equivalent. To literally see how the performance has moved on in 30 years. Pick any maker but say a first Gen Fireblade against Hondas latest? I reckon it will be like going backwards.
They are all great bikes, but only the SD is a match for the sf due to how fun it’s to ride and looks great, but put them side to side and you will find out why you pay more for the Ducati. They are just on a different level.
A friend of mine asked me why don't I buy a Z H2 being a Kawasaki fan. I told him I don't have a wish to harm myself. As you guys said, it's just stupid raw power.
@@BikeWorldTVshow I was replying to PLo being salty about it being a fix, not yourself 😂. Could see that with either rider on board the ducati had the legs on the kawasaki 👍
As a Ducati owner and fan, I was surprised that the H2, with the advantage of a supercharger, was unable to keep pace with the Ducati after 1st gear. On paper, the H2 has more torque and HP by a wide margin. But Ducati proved again that the proper gearing in the transmission and proper geometry are more important than gross HP numbers. And the icing on the cake is the Ducati styling, pure Italian sexiness.
I reckon you guys shouldn't have left the M1000R out of this race tho! I believe it would've beaten the Kawa 🤔 it's closer between the Ducati and the Bimmer, than between these two!
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Crazy how in a span of 3-5 years, Ducati went from having one of the slowest Superbike's with regards to straight line speed (1098-1198, not a dig at that bike btw it's one of my personal favorite motorcycles), to the 1199/1299 being near the front of the pack, and then the V4 just mopping the floor with just about everything. And their streetfighter bikes are still the most beautiful and elegant by a long shot!
It’s that Volkswagen/Audi money, they spent it well.
They're not the best handling/riding bikes, though. I'd still buy my Super Duke again, it's so comfortable and easy to ride. That said, I am trying to figure out why the Ducati needs to be so powerful really, for what's a naked, wide-barred streetbike. The ZH2 in my personal experience isn't as fast as this one seems to be, I wonder if the european version is really that different from the North American one. I did a few roll-ons with my friend this spring and my 1290R pulled a bike length and kept it to over 200kph. I dunno.
@@SteveC-ShamanThe Duke has low end torque so it will excell in roll on acceleration. In a drag race the H2 will easily win. I have ridden the 790 and I agree it's a very easy to ride bike. Even though it was a friend's bike I took to it like a fish in water.
Fireblade I feel is better than v4 no?
The manufacturers take turns on who gets to run the best design and power levels
Has anyone mentioned the Ducati has a counter rotating crank? Big contribution to anti wheelie.
Derived from MotoGP 🏍🏁
Nope not mentioned and it helps a lot. Also full power mode not mentioned so I suspect it’s not been used.
@King-Arthur-The-First they did say all the rider aids where off towards the end of the video
I really enjoyed every aspect of this series from the drag race footage to the rider feedback after each race. Pure entertainment.
Loved these series of drag races and goes to show how much of a mental bike that zh2 is.
I own one and it's the most fun bike I've owned. Always puts a smile on my face.
To be fair, this is a reminder that *any* of these super naked bikes (MT-10, Super Duke, Tuono, M1000R etc) are hilarious and exactly what motorcycles are about.
Me too. I love it.
this was a fun mini series and it’s great that it wasn’t a shut-out.
the fact that the races were so close made this extremely fun to watch. watching that kawasaki lift that wheel just adds to the fun.
can’t wait for the next mini series.
maybe the same drag race with retro bikes like the triumph scrambler 1200, ducati 1100, and the indian ftr?
nice job you guys !
Wheelies are funny but Performance wise or on Track its bad
Made me smile a lot.. for both bikes.
Another point to pick one would be looks for me. The streetfighter has a timeless, unique appeal to it. It will look still stunning in 20 years
i will still look at it and go "wow they copied the z1000"
@@monkmoto1887
I couldn't pick a more different design philosophy if I tried.. Everything from proportions to design styling is completely different.
The Z1000 is much bulkier and massive, with a U-shape from front to tail that looks like some kind of bug or prowling lion with a much pointier nose.
Street Fighter v4 has much more balanced proportions. The line from the front to the tail is straight, like on superbikes, and the overall design is slicker and much more elegant.
Z1000's design looks like a bodybuilder, while Street Fighter V4 looks more like Vetoria's secret model.
@@monkmoto1887and the Ducati looks better
Yeah, totally agree with you
I mean look at those Ducatis 20 years ago, aren't they still freakin gorgeous as hell?
Looking at wsbk, MotoGP & their amazing V4 road bikes (& the rest of the range in fact)… Ducati is on such a roll right now.
I’d say maybe even the best brand at the moment across most categories???
Oh they 100% are, not even a question about it. They're one of if not the best in every category they make bikes. However with that said, the streetbikes, the service and the accessories are overpriced. My friend recently bought a Multistrada v4s PP and it ended up at £25k and he didn't even spec it fully and despite paying THAT much heated grips and a centre stand was still optional extras on a bloody touring bike. So yes, they do make the best bikes but in my opinion atleast they're not worth the extra amount of money you need to spend, you do pay a premium just for it to say "Ducati" on the tank and some people like that and that's perfectly fine.
@@alexm6340 have you been on the new Multistrada its a big step beyond the competition, in my opinion worth the money and why I bought one.
@alexm6340 your buddy has a 200+hp touring bike. Nobody else can say that. That's why they charge a premium. You pay the most and get the best performance
@@mattsloop2736Nah for the multi V4 its only like 160ish HP
@@mattsloop2736Kawasaki has a 200hp touring bike. I think it’s called H2SX… but it’s around 25k so you pay for performance.
Utterly pointless yet totally compelling. If anyone ever wondered why 200 horsepower was necessary, here's why
While I didn't think it was that close, the V4S pulled away every time, the price difference is quite the difference. A new V4S here in the US is $27500. Maybe the V4 performs the same in a straight line? However, the Z H2 is listed new here on the East Coast for $14,593! ($17500 is MSRP). That sure allows for a lot of modifications and personalization of it! And you won't have to go to a Ducati dealer for services, like getting that rear tire replaced. Thanks for the overall shootout, it was great to see!
I am Surprice where you find those Numbers for the H2 SE?They starts at 20 K and start means base Price.And we talking Stock Bikes its clear you can make a tune to the Engine but after this your Bike gonna loose Wrranty and its eaven not street legal any more.
The Z H2 and Z h2 SE are identical in a straight line. Is the V4S identical to the V4?
@@Stclairm1 powerwise its actually the same Bike only the suspenssion is diffrend and wheels. But it wont be any diffrence if they take the Standard V4 Streetfighter the Result be the same
@@Stclairm1 The S is the upgraded suspension. Engine and geometry are the same.
The base H2 is $20,000.00 USD plus fees. What dealer is selling them for $14593? I'll take two right now.
What a wicked shoot out. The
Desmosedici Stradale engine is the goods. Ducati is at the top of there game.
Great stuff guys have a ZH2 and 100% agree never get tired of riding it and as you say can take you by surprise which is why love it..
the Ducati is limited in 1st and 2nd then a little less in 3rd and 4th then only has full power in 5th and 6th that's the main reason it doesn't wheelie that much. along with wings and counter rotating crank. 2023 model has a full power mode in the menu that takes away restrictions but 99% of people are faster with the gear based power restrictions on. full power mode is just for fun and hooning. I had my 2022 streetfighter V4 SP dyno tuned and had gear restrictions removed permanently and I'm now slower on track but have more fun trying to hang on to it!
I get it makes you faster on track but if you get a road bike and need power restrictions at low speed you shouldn't be riding that bike.
@@willspeakman2461 true, but i guess ducati are all about making the fastest bikes around a track. In their words they say the restrictions give you the most acceleration you can practically use in each gear.
Just like moto GP bikes they control the power in each gear because you only need enough to make the front wheel light. Anymore and wheelie then you go slower
@@Herby-99 That's fine but I wish they had a full power option available from factory. Pretty insane they still restrict the power in higher gears. That engine must be incredible.
@@willspeakman2461 the new 2023 model does have a full power mode now because everyone was asking for it.
Now that mine is unrestricted the power is insane, front wheel comes up anytime you go near the throttle with wheelie control turned off or set down low ofcourse
@@Herby-99 Perfect, that's the way it should be.
Request you to make a video on
Honda CBX1000
inline 6
want to hear your opinion and that crazy exhaust note.
Dream rides!
Great Vid! Love it to bits! Now new dragrace series with all the superbikes and the kawa Ninja H2!!! Yessssssss. Please!….
Loves these vids bang on 😎. That Ducati just gets the power down so well. No wheelies etc the wings counter rotating shaft I feel hard to beat
2 years ago I was deciding between the ZH2 and the V4S... I think I chose right with the ZH2 :) Once you get a proper tune (I got mine from Brentune), intake, Exhaust, the thing makes 251hp to the wheel!! It is properly NUTS lol. Awesome vids guys I was really looking forward to this mini series :)
I have the same bike and right now mines making 210 at the wheel with the tune. The problem is the charge temperatures wanted to ask what is yours running at wide-open throttle
But even the stock bike can't put the power down, more power doesn't actually make it faster in this case :P
Exhaust does nothing. Only the cat is a restriction.
@@Juuul89 Faster was not the Goal :) You have to ride one to understand, this is the some of the most fun I've had on 2 wheels (minus my 701 Enduro!)
@@N1GHTKN1GHT Oh I can imagine lol! I meant that just in this race, more power would not have mattered. I have a 701 SM btw, sick bikes right?! :D
This was lovely guys. This was lovely. I do believe the wings made a difference. Such is Physics. Good Job Ducati. I would buy the Z h2 :D
Great vid, so alive and sincere, thank you guys!🎉 Keep it up.
Awesome and very entertaining both wicked machines and I’d be proud to own either thank you 👍
Some of best motorcycle reviews and comparisons on UA-cam.
Thanks!
Ducati Victorious 🏁 Please don't stop this drag race series.
Thanks for spoiling the video champ
@@andreapaviotti3090 lol
Great to see Chris and Chad going at it! Thanks for the awesome entertainment guys!
The Duc won but my money would still go to BMW. 3 year manufacturer warranty and I must say they have superb customer service. Of course ymmv
Ducati gives 4 years in Europe
@@occrash5616 if you pay for it
Great race guys! And that's why you buy a super naked because you want it to be a hooligan and bring the biggest grin on your face, thank you Kawasaki
Every time I watch one of your videos it makes me smile. Really that’s what it’s all about.
To be fair with Criss at the wheel the tuono outlunched the m1000r and Ducati... sure it lost in the end because of 30hp difference but what if Criss was on the bmw? Would that have won all the races?
It was very obvious in the previous video!
proabbaly from onboard it look like they dont use full power on bmw cos shoft to earli 👌🏻 anyway it would be super close with v4 s but i quees bmw slightly would win it be 5 cm 😉
Yep they short shifted
The ducati is not running with +30hp than the tuono. Gears 1 up to 4 are limited. Only gear 5-6 have the 208hp.
When you think that you hardly ever get 100 throttle on the ZH2! It's highly restricted - watch Moore Mafia tuning it! He shows the secondary throttle body position. In 5th (if I remember correctly) you get 100% for about 2,000 rpm up around 10,000 then the ECU begins to close it even though you have it pinned with your right hand...
I own a Kawasazki retro sport, but I am a Ducati fun boy. Happy to see Streetfighter win 😁
How come you didn't do any roll on's, like you did on the other videos...??
Exhaust and flash for the ZH2, and it gets about another 40 horsepower. Then you're going to need better suspension.
I've seen a rumor of a KTM 1390 Super Duke R in the works. Not sure it's true...
1390 is coming!
@@tomtraynor5384 Probably going to be pretty much a whole new engine. The current 1301cc engine has already been optimized a couple of times, with thinning materials and internal mass down to the minimum where it still generates the power but isn't unreliable with durability. Going another 100cc in displacement is probably going to require a redo of the entire engine. Assuming they stay with the Vtwin architecture. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any Twin-cylinder engine created over the years from any brand that attempts to be a sports-oriented twin, with around 1400cc or so displacement. Ducati is the only one in recent times who tried to absolutely maximize the horsepower a twin can produce before they just decided a V4 was the way forward for them.
At some point your bore diameters get to be so large that it's difficult to fill the cylinder, get combustion expansion rates to also fill the cylinder, produce the power you want, but also spin the engine very fast (requiring a very short stroke due to too-high piston speeds and the limits of metal strength). If you go the direction of longer stroke, you have to limit RPM and then you deal with crazy torque forces trying to not blow the tire away at lower speeds and get hook.
Loved this. Actually learnt a lot about what bikes I don't want in my future.
Only because I ride everyday and commute 40 weeks of the year.
The thing about these vids is that a vast majority of bikers are looking to see if there are any bikes to aspire to owning. UNLIKE supercar vids which are just entertainment when one is having a poo.
Two great riders. Not often I’m confident what I’m seeing is the bikes and not the riders fluffing it 🤘🏻
Amazing how the results were the same and by the same margins when they switched bikes. Truly an even and fair comparison.
Love my ZH2 SE, factor in the price difference and you could make a case for the H2.
No idea why people flash these to 220hp at the wheel unless you are building a drag bike.
Ego. :D It feels good to know you have the badest and fastest Naked bike.
Kawi with an ecu flash would be interesting.
Vs the 2023 SF without any ecu flash
@@killjoysmakesomenoise668There's a lot more power to be gained with a flash on the supercharged ZH2 than the NA Ducati. £400 gets you another 50hp.
@@carleddison7479 putting upgrades to these bikes defeats the purpose of these videos tho
@@killjoysmakesomenoise668 True, but if you're looking to get one of these bikes and speed is the deciding factor, then an ECU flash for the Z is nothing when compared to the price difference. Stock Z is tuned to a max of 170hp and is reduced to 130hp when you get near redline.
Trouble is when flashed is even more of a monster to keep the front wheel on the ground
Great stuff, enjoyed the series. :)
Another video great 😎👍 I think the counter rotating crank really helps the Ducati and the way the zh2 makes it's best torque near the top works against it until you get into the high gears - whatever great fun !
The last race shows the Ducati pulling away in 3rd, it's not even a race after 125 mph.
Zh2 has useless throttle KTM Duke 1290 is much better than ZH2 and you have lot of torque too
i would have loved to see the Rush or Brutale from -MV Agusta. Very entertaining anyway :)
Thank you for the video.
As standard that Ducati, does not give full power.
There is a bit of button pressing to get full power. I think I had to turn traction control off to get there for approx 20hp more.
Ducati FTW 🎉 Love my SF V4S!
Great work guys! Ducati wins without even getting in 4th gear! That's impressive!
Would love to see a roll race between the nakeds and their fairing equivalents to see how much top end is affected by drag
I met up with an H2Z on the freeway with my Street Fighter V2 and had a blast shredding traffic and then met at the front of a red light. I took off without using Launch Control and even on the V2 I had him until 3rd gear. Also went out after that and ordered the wings! Haha
I loved this series, just made me miss my Aprilia Tuono v4, but ducati was very impressive. Made me proud to own a Ducati.
As an owner of an SDR, a SFV4S and a Tuono, I've really enjoyed this mini series, I just wish I could ride them at the same level as you two nutters.
So... do you roll a three sided dice when you walk into the garage? :D
If you had to pick one for street riding, A) would you be able to... and B) which one would it be?
I had the same response as you to that launch at 4:45
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can you drag race the MV brutale 1000 with them or any other 1000cc MV... or they are slower
i really wanna know if being heavier on a biek with ridiculous power would alow you to put more power down as you can prevent wheelies more anyone know anything bout this with bikes this powerful?
Drag race adventure bikes next !!
Ktm 1290 sa
Ducati v4 multi
Bmw 1250 gs
Three of the most popular bikes out there 👍
🤣H2 loonacy what a bike true to it's name luv it couldn't ride it but hell I would have one in my garage of dreams .What a watch 👌👍
Dear Kawasaki, hey let’s take off the Super Charger. And then we will see again 😂😂
Head says Ducati, heart says Kawasaki.
I love how in most cases people would have those two brands the opposite way around; the H2 line is just so ridiculous, it's awesome 😆
@@Ellisian Exactly., couldn’t agree more.
Why not use the Launch Control on the ZH2?
Can we at least get a Tuono vs Speed Triple for the record.
I reckon that the M1000R can keep up with the Kawasaki aswell
Wanna know, was the Superduke faster off the line since it's a parallel?
Fantastic videos. Totally agree that if I could point at any of those bikes and have it suddenly appear in my garage, I would point at the Ducati. BUT, if you told me I had 30K in my pocket, and I could take the MT10 and still have 14K in my pocket. Or, I could take the Ducati, but need to make payments on the remaining 7K. No doubt, I'm taking the MT10.
I've owned all of the bikes in this shootout other than the mt10. The secret to the v4s gettin off the line hard is ducati limiting power in the first few gears to reduce wheel lift on launch
Based on the M1000R's performance against the Ducati. I reckon it'll also beat the H2. Use BMW's launch control and see what it does then. MCN's tester Bruce Dunn did a 0-140mph in 9.99 secs during their speed tests, on the M1000R.
Ducati is totally peaked. Kawi is just a pipe and tune from 70 more hp.
70 ? no more like 120....🙃
Horsepower means nothing if you can’t use it all
That Ducati is magical. It just gets the power down so well. Maybe it’s got something to do with the wings and the geometry. That rear wheel does come out a bit longer than the other bikes - much like drag bikes do.
Counter rotating crank, basically the crank's rotation pushes the front down reducing the gyroscopic effect
I'm just wondering which one you would spend your money on if you were buying only one of all of these.
I'm super impressed with the Ducati. I thought the Kawasaki would eat it's lunch. I was wrong. Very wrong.
Why are you surprised? The Ducati has more power lmfao
@@mikemoggerson6651 , lmfao(?) For what? You must be a Ducati fanboy? Horsepower is not everything. I was surprised because I knew more about the ZH2 than I did about the V4S. I thought the H2 derived engine would hold it's own, despite being the heavier bike and having 11 less horses. I based my assumption on the turbo and the fact that the Kawasaki has 11 lbs/ft more torque; which is more important than horsepower when it comes to getting off the line.
@@traeucity6087 power to weight ratio is almost everything when it comes to straight line speed. Find a video where a vehicle with inferior power to weight wins in a drag race (barring no traction or horrible launch).
everyone knows the street fighter V4 is the fastest naked in a straight line. I’m no Ducati fanboy (I like Aprilia more). But the facts are facts. And horsepower includes torque. Lower torque could just mean the bike is peaky and makes a ton of power up high (like the Ducati). Power is the measure of how much torque it makes over an interval, that’s why it’s the number that really matters.
Power=torque x rpm.
@@mikemoggerson6651 , Is that why despite being over 100 lbs. heavier and having a lower power to weight ratio, the Kawasaki H2 beats the Ducati Superleggera V4, in a straight line (drag race)?
@@traeucity6087that’s mostly cuz of gearing. A stock H2 will lose badly to a stock superleggera in straight line. There’s no videos out there of bone stock Vs bone stock. Btw torque doesnt matter for top speed. I sincerely think you should look up the physics behind horsepower and torque on google before speaking. Old V8 and V10 f1 engines had very low torque because of their relatively low displacement and compression ratio. Yet they revved to the moon so they made 900+ HP, hence why they could hit 300 km/h in 10 seconds. Pls find any video of a heavier vehicle with less power beating a more powerful, lighter vehicle. The only other factors are aero and tires. Also look at the superleggera aero compared to a H2 lmao. One is designed for track riding, the other as a straight line beast.
Great result😁🔥👊🏍️🇮🇹Love it ,Amazing job guys well done ✊🏍️💪💨💨😁
Hey is it worth it getting a new z h2 SE vs a 2020 z h2 with 7k miles on it for 14k USD from a dealer
How do you think the triumph speed triple 1200 rs would've fared? I traded my speed triple 1200 for an MT-10, but that speed triple felt fast!
I wanna see Gsxr1000 amidst these. Thats a damn good bike. Hope they increase its specs for the next iteration.
How about shift cam S1000-RR against Streetfighter v4s?
That shows how good Street Fighter V4 putting down the power and pushing forward, really linear curves thru out rev range. Where ZH2 just here some torque, oh here more torque, you want some more torque
Great series this , loved watching, do the same for 1000cc super sport.
Need to flash dat zh2 as those bikes are restricted a lot stock.
why you didn't compete with MV Agusta Rush?
What king of RST jaquet is it?
I really thought the Kawi would reel it in, but it’s just a Beast to control.
Well i would of lost n bet fair play with Ducati but i still love the looks n sounds of the kwak good competition tho 👌
I've seen a live drag race in our local track and the ZH2 won vs a panigale v4. I've also seen a gsxr1k turbo beat a panigale v4.
Now flash both bikes and race them again see what happens xD
Race them on a proper track😂
ok....in part 1 of this series Zh2 got 10.07sec.. 1/4 mile and in part 2 ducati has 10.53 sec 1/4 mile. so how come Zh2 can't beat ducati here? edit: all Im saying is .... an European bike (ducati) wins a drag race in an European youtube channel. something fishy
Shifting too early, driver is noob
@@NimalYagami all im saying ducati is European .... and by the accent of these guys I can tell they are / this channel is also European. An European bike wins drag race final in an European channel.
Cuz bullshit, dude can't ride
@@MJ-rr4hd they are in favor of Ducati, screw that Kawasaki driver
DA's could change, many variables at play with ET and MPH.
I hit the rev limiter on a sfv4 once. 💩came flying out. It was amazing and terrifying.
Gotta be the best motorcycle channel on yt right now, easy 👏 well done Chris and thank you for keeping us entertained 👌
Thanks!
@@BikeWorldTVshow my request to make cbx1000 inline 6 for dream rides was completely ignored 🥲
sorry but why did you guys never use the launch control, I know that zh2 got one, not sure about the ducati
because it's faster without it
You stayed the Kawasaki is a four cylinder inclined four. Are you sure you're not mistaken as it appears to be a twin parallel twin. Just wondering and looking for clarification. 😮
Ducati has been the best motorcycle maker for a while.... Being part of Volkswagen(Audi) group improved quality and tech a LOT to the point that they are basically unbeatable now.
I personally love the ZH2 that thing is a monster for sure
The drag races are the best videos because the only ones that do it besides Carwow.
Where was the m1000r, why didnt you include it in the race?
It lost in part 2
@@briangc1972 ohh but why not race the zh2, i think its faster than the zh2
@@ismailgashi5073 you need to edit your reply, it does not make sense
Tuned zh2 makes 255hp/150nm - also removing the factory exhaust lowers the weight by 20kg
Good fun that. I’d like to see a 90’s super bike vs its modern equivalent. To literally see how the performance has moved on in 30 years. Pick any maker but say a first Gen Fireblade against Hondas latest? I reckon it will be like going backwards.
They are all great bikes, but only the SD is a match for the sf due to how fun it’s to ride and looks great, but put them side to side and you will find out why you pay more for the Ducati. They are just on a different level.
Yamaha V-Max next. Keep doing these drags!
vs rocket 3 👌🏻 …..vmax win 👍🏻
No rolling start? 😢
A friend of mine asked me why don't I buy a Z H2 being a Kawasaki fan. I told him I don't have a wish to harm myself. As you guys said, it's just stupid raw power.
looks like the fix is in.. show us the 1/4 mile times.. the last time ZH2 did 10.07sec vs SF 10.53secs
That Kawasaki actually did 10.70 not 10.07, we haven’t fixed it.
Don't be salty. Could see the ducati had the sx covered with both riders
@@badassbiker78 not being salty, but you said it was a fix!
@@BikeWorldTVshow I was replying to PLo being salty about it being a fix, not yourself 😂.
Could see that with either rider on board the ducati had the legs on the kawasaki 👍
@@badassbiker78 sorry mate, currently driving and couldn’t see who commented.
As a Ducati owner and fan, I was surprised that the H2, with the advantage of a supercharger, was unable to keep pace with the Ducati after 1st gear. On paper, the H2 has more torque and HP by a wide margin. But Ducati proved again that the proper gearing in the transmission and proper geometry are more important than gross HP numbers. And the icing on the cake is the Ducati styling, pure Italian sexiness.
Is it possible to make it more like the car wow format?
In what way?
Rolling race and brake test :D @@BikeWorldTVshow
I reckon you guys shouldn't have left the M1000R out of this race tho! I believe it would've beaten the Kawa 🤔 it's closer between the Ducati and the Bimmer, than between these two!
I really wanted to see a speed triple 1200 in that race to see what it's capable of 🙃
I think it would get destroyed by those 2 beasts as it does even less WHP than Tuono and S1000R.
@@resetyoutub i know, but it would be fun
Btw i own one🤣
Pointless really!!😂
Aye Let's GOO! StreetFighter baby!. new i bought a good bike :P haha
No roll on?
Bruh that zh2 is just too powerful 😂. Gotta have an anchor upfront to keep it down and use it to full potential 😂
prominent video, love that.👍
Love it!!