Carl lentz in his breakfast club interview when asked what he thought about creflo dollar's asking his congregation for money for a new jet... falseteachers.net
"I try not to speak on things that takes guts to speak on and to commit to my stance of pretending I preach from scripture and the life of Jesus Christ". Fixed that for ya, Carl.
He speaks just like the enemy.. "It's ok do what you want" .. "It's not for me to judge" etc. Then he cracks jokes, smooth talker... but the truth is he does not represent the God of the Bible. Where is his fear of God? As Christians we are not called to be like the world but rather: "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you" 2 Cor 6:17
You obviously haven't listened to any of his messages. You are talking like a typical legalist. Traditional religions are not God focused, but only Bible focused. Those are not to be confused. There are differences. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that we should fear God as in fearing for our life or oh no, i did something wrong. We are all born sinners, none are perfect, but we try and it should be because we love God, not out of fear. Hypothetical, I could go rob a bank if im broke, but out of fear of the consequences I don't. That doesn't change my hearts desire to do so does it? I don't flip off bad drivers because I want to please God because I love Him, not because I fear His consequences. Old school religions teach people to fear God, not to want to please Him and to follow and want to be like Him or love Him. Old school religions do not necessarily teach Christians to have or how to have a personal relationship with Christ. They command you to read the Bible and pray every day. There is no real personal relationship in that. That's just doing what we are told to do or expected to do as a Christian. Jesus never said "Do it", He said to chose. Jesus wants to be chosen, not forced down anyone's throat. Are you blind? "We are not called to be like the world"..So your stereotyping new believers and using this statement incorrectly and taking the Bible out of context. lol, so you think that's what the Bible means by this verse is that we should dress differently, no tattoos (that may have come before salvation), etc? You couldn't be more wrong. And for you to teach this would name you as a false prophet. There is no possible way to completely separate yourself physically from the world. Its not possible. You also cant define "the unclean thing." Its not defined and you cant speculate and put words in Jesus mouth that are not there. I recommend you read the verses before and after the verse you mentioned. What it means is that we let Jesus light shine through us to others. Its our actions that we separate ourselves from the world, not our physical appearances. I don't go to Carl's church but I have watched a few sermons and heard his message. Never have I heard him say anywhere that its OK to do what you want. Now you are badmouthing a fellow Christian which is also not Biblical. You should know, if you are a true believer, that someone seeking Christ, trying to have a personal relationship with Him, God will reveal Himself to that person and the path to righteousness in His time, not yours. Only God can save people, people cant save people. It seems to me Carl preaches more than anything to follow Jesus and His word by pursuing a personal relationship with Him. That is his church's goal and should be the goal of every church in the world. Because, you know, someone seeking Him will find Him. God will convict them of their sins in Gods time, not yours. Take that old Ind Baptist brainwashing and flush it down the toilet. Old school Baptist always trying to add more words and thoughts to the Bible. Trying to make Christianity harder than it is. Trying to make choosing Jesus harder than it is. The world revival will go on without your negative comments. The Bible promises it.
saltbearer Your statement is right on. People just want to hear what makes them feel good about what they are doing. I've been listening to David Wilkerson these past few weeks and his teachings have "really" been ministering to me. We don't have very many more pastors left like him. "Wide is the gate and broad is the road"
Brunswick Sign Company, I am not a Baptist, am I am not from America, and you make some good points, but the thing apart from dry religion that separates us from having a vibrant relationship with Jesus is sin my friend. Mixing with the world in a worldly way. No harm having a coffee with a non-Christian but taking shots in a bar is not for Christians. As a Christian I have done things that are wrong, and was glad, and should be glad to be called out on it. I think you should read the Epistles brother. They have a lot to say about Christian conduct and separation from the world. The gospels are great but don't cover everything for believers. And Carl if he was Biblical could say that prosperity teaching is wrong, greed is wrong and excessive lavish living at the expense of the congregation is wrong. And I have to say Mr Dollar exhibits all these things. He can always repent, but otherwise is disgracefully representing our Lord Jesus. Read the New Testament. All giving in the NT is to meet needs either of family or the family of believers, such as widows, the poor, or gospel workers but it is not to enrich the few at the expense of the many. This is so anti the character of God. A lot of TV preachers are guilty of this unfortunately and the world can see it and it brings reproach to the name of Christ.
+Michael NewZealand , I agree with you. The "problem" with preaching sermons against love of money, immorality, denying oneself and taking up the cross, suffering in Christ, etc. is that it calls into question the daily behavior of both speaker and hearers. If a "pastor" preaches against love of money while wearing a $100,000 dollar Rolex or driving a Rolls Royce, the audience might revolt and say, "Hey, YOU first!! How are YOU living?"" And all og Lentz's non-answers are deceit being framed as a non-judgmental attitude. But Jesus said, "Let what you say be simply "Yes " or "No"; anything more than this comes from evil. "(Matthew 5:37) I've seen several of Lentz's interviews and to me he comes across as someone with a product to sell who doesn't want to alienate any potential markets with clear cut scriptural statements. As for the fear of God, Lentz wears their jeans. Just look at "Carl Lentz, Justin Bieber's pastor, Talks Personal Style." It's the only mention of God in His one-minute interview. The opportunity to reach millions with the gospel and he spends it talking about his personal trinity (me, myself/I) while leaving God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit out of the picture. But you're free to make your own scriptural observations.
Carl Lentz you are joking. Having a top of the range jet is NOT relative to anything!! That's the whole point. The economy is bad, people are struggling, working full time and can't pay for bills let alone luxuries. There are many many poor. So what is all this luxury 'relative' to? It's out of place, not 'relative' as you say. That is the issue.
Correct, the guy in question is called Dollar, preaches a lot about money, asks for and spends a lot of money, seems focused on money. It seems only money seeking Christians, who believe in tithing and God wanting them to be rich don't get what even most unbelievers can see. This is not Christ honoring. I don't judge his salvation, but he is way way off on this.
Have to agree with this. I kinda like his preaching, but in interviews he is weak. no such thing as being a relative issue. That's pathetic. What Carl should take into account is the power these men wield over the minds of people as they use their platforms to bewitch them with fables they make up! In defence of Carl I don't see him doing that. Yet?
"For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he has no stately form NOR SPLENDOR; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." Isaiah 53:2 (emphasis mine)
His name says it all Mr Dollar 💵 I remember watching one of his sermons in him saying sow your million dollars in the church & you will reap it back 100 fold🤣
because then they would be taken out of control as you see, most of the negative comments are from preachers and higher ups in churches etc. Only place to hear the true message is non-denomination churches. Organized religions took God and personal choice for God out of the church. Instead they use guilt and fear to do what is write. Not Biblical.
Wrong Lentz, it's not Creflo's Church. That's a big problem. People identify a Church so much with it belonging to a Pastor, they forget, it's God's Church. You are a Steward of God's Church for a time. It is the Lord's bride, and if you return His bride in poor condition, Lord have mercy on your soul. Poor Theology breeds poor decisions, as well as these money hungry so called Pastors.
Samuel Warren “I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.” Romans 16:17-18
Brunswick Sign Company You're deceived. Please pray for discernment. Creflo Dollar is a false teacher, he teaches heresy saying that we are little gods and share on God's divine nature.
Samuel Warren I don’t think it’s criticizing. Just my opinion. I think opening people’s eyes to heresy is every christian’s duty. There are many red flags to this gentleman and his church.
thanks for your answer, I was referring to your comment about "They won't criticize one another," and honestly I'd be more worried if there weren't red flags for you, He's a human too, putting the word pastor in front of his name doesn't change that. If you have red flags that you have witnessed, not just second hand info, you should seek him out and share it with him. Sure you probably won't get a chance in person, but that's biblical right? if you have a problem with your brother take it to your brother.
Seriously, he rcvd his responses from Joel O... `I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked (Rev. 3:14-17 RSV).
This guy is neither hot nor cold, meaning that his lack of strong conviction and Biblical clarity render him unusable. A sad testimony to the hollowness of our spiritual culture today.
Its not the fact he used his church to get a new jet, the reason people question him is cause most every sermon he preaches is about monetary gain and how the church should donate more so he can become richer. And the reason people are mad about this is cause he use's god and jesus to preach these things.
If a homie is so filled with the word of God and reading his bible and talking and spending time with God on a daily basis and his entire life mission is to spread the word of God and he says I'm gonna do this as efficiently as I can with the least amount of stress. I need a jet to do this then a man should be given anything to spread Christ's message including a jet. But if a homie is like I wanna ball till I fall and collect me some tithes and offerings that's a whole different story.
It’s not about what you think, it’s about what God’s Word is. Hopefully he can get right with God, we should all pray for men like this, not speak heresy unto sinners, we are flesh and we need to come together in prayer and agree that people need to quit being mislead.
I try not to speak against men who make merchandise of people, hirelings,homosexuals,adulterers,false apostles,unrighteousness,sin,evilworkers, but God will raise up his servants to proclaim his word because it has to be a witness against them.
"It's all relative." Really, Carl? Relative to what? Church, the alarms are going off like never before. It's time to wake from slumber. It's time to humble ourselves and pray earnestly. For those who continue to defend and support these false teachers, it's time to repent and get your heart right before God!
If we judge Creflo, Joel, Sam and John then are we doing what Jesus called us to do? He answered very well, judging makes people bitter, haters and critical....good job Carl.
God is a righteous judge, so many passages throughout the Old Testament particularly say that. Righteous judgement is important. Murder is wrong, rape is wrong, love of money is wrong, tithing is never commanded or asked of Christians. See how I made judgements? I did so by reading the Word of God and following what it says. Not hard, and you don't need to single out a person necessarily but some people stand out like sore thumbs. Mr Dollar happens to be one of those.
We as Christian's have become professional stone throwers as if we can judge that heart and intent of a man. Then we claim we have the spirit of discernment but yet deny the gifts of the holy spirit. Interesting
I think if the so called Christians read their Bible more often and understood it through wisdom than they would not fall easily into traps of the Covetous man. Its a shame that they do not realize this.
I wonder if FATHER, JESUS AND HOLY GHOST are as fed up as I am with this guy, dollar, olsteen, hilllsong , Copeland, etc ?
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The Bible says, "don't call yourselves teacher (rabbi, preacher, priest, pastor...) for you have ONE TEACHER (word of God) and you are ALL BROTHERS." Christianity is in error for many reasons, especially if men follow the teaching and superficial ramblings of other men! No rich, mega church leader is taking you past the grave, if you follow them.
Haters gonna hate. Jesus had haters when he walked this earth and he was a perfect man. Not even perfect is good enough if you a hater. You the one with the problem hater.
Do you know why Jesus walk? Because He preach how to be humble, not teach His church to live in luxury life. He teach to serve others in a humble life. John 13:16 : the servant is not greater than his lord. If jesus is your lord, and he is live a humble life, how come u as His servant live a luxury life?
If the purpose of the private jet is to preach the gospel what's the problem? that's like saying Nah the ambulance costs too much money I'll take the bus to the hospital. Private jets save a lot of time in and out of gates and baggage. Jesus rode a donkey, used a rock as a pillow, was homeless, was a virgin and didn't have any money, how many material things do Christians who aren't supposedly rich have in their house? how many pairs of shoes? how many kinds of clothes? how many options on food? flat screen t.v., smart phones, 300k+ houses, 17k+ automobile, compared to Haitians ya'll is filthy rich them Haitians ain't got non of these luxuries
But it's not just jets its their whole lifestyles. Jesus said The birds of the air have nest and foxes have dens but the son of man has no place to lay his head. I am not advocating for poor, destitute preachers but men like Creflo $ should realize their reflection of the Christ is very different from the bible.
Creflos decades year old jet loses an engine over Europe. His pilots save his life. He goes to his 3,000,000 ministry partners and declares his desire. Jesus promises us the desires of our heart. Oh - he never asked his church for a dime. And a guy from the Middle East writes him a check for the jet because “they need you over here”. Haters are always in alignment with scripture. Problem is - they’re quoting Judas. “We could have sold this jet and given the money to the poor”. Not because they give a shit about the poor - it’s because they’re thieves.
People have itching ears heaping up preachers and teachers for what they want to hear. Most of these people know not God only a form of godliness ( religion) ...nothing more and nothing less than what the Pharisees had....
I try not to speak on things all who read this and are listening to this man who fears man instead of God the bible is clear ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. " Roman 16:17 Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: this is not up for discussion and men like him pray for because he is an enemy of the church and God
This guy is so soft. No backbone, no courage. Even when asked other questions he dances around them. No boldness from this guy, he seems so concerned about attracting followers and not offending people and therefore doesn't speak the truth. He isn't bold for Christ and seems afraid to speak against sin.
LOL, Riding in someones jet doesnt mean they are less than a Christian. Of course, people will try to ruin this guy. the devil is the only false teacher and will use media and unbelievers and even some believers to try to ruin Carls reputation. Devil is loving this interference and would love to get more people away from Christ in any way possible. Why do some of you people stereotype a preacher? God is stronger than any of you and His love will prevail over all those who oppose Him.
Humility. NOT. He should be in economy class preaching in the seats as Jesus would have. It's 5-30million for the plane, 200k for the pilots depending on rates. Taxes to land and take off are $ and the maintenance is 10% of the plane you buy. The cost is horrendous. Id rather that money given to the needy. But the needy, the ones in the seats get nothing from the church in terms of money back, it would be a very rare occurrence if it did. The fact that Carl says we dont have to give is a croc. We give under obedience to GOD and that is taken advantage of let me tell you. I don't give to the Church any more, I give directly to the poor, as that way I know I have done my bit and god says, Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed. Its better to give than receive and I think a private jet is not humility in the slightest. How many could you help with that money and when he can get on a plane and fly anywhere for $1500 and preach in his seat and save those on the way there. Its a matter of fame and comfort and the fact churches are making this much money, tells me the Vatican could of helped many as well. But its not about the poor its about the master that they serve, SELF.
To Follow on when Jesus came to this earth did he ask for a Gold Hummer chariot. Ruby Rings for you to kiss when you bowed before him. The king of the world came as a servant and lived with the poor. What have pastors learned from the character of Christ. NOTHING.
Wyatt Staggers Lentz constantly avoids answering questions that have pretty clear answers if you actually study the Bible. He constantly talks about personal feelings/thoughts, vs taking a real biblical stance, because it might offend people.
Quenton Willis well he's just saying he doesn't know the situation of this private jet incident so he isn't gonna make assumptions acting like he knows.
Come on man. There's no justification for a 60 million dollar jet. And Lentz consistently dodges questions. A constantly avoids taking a biblical stands and has shown he's not willing to stand for the truth. Not saying he should Bible Whip anyone. But when asked your beliefs, as a Pastor, you have a responsibility to speak the truth.
Exactly speaking the truth in love. There is NO reason for any Christian minister having a 60 million dollar jet. Good on you brother for saying it like it is.
The people are trying to buy a blessing or prosperity thats the problem! Wen you fibd out you got played dont blame or discredit the Creator! Blame false prophets disgusting representation and false doctrine thats being teached
HEY BUDDY! pastor creflo never asked from his congregation a dime to put toward the jet needing for ministry pastor simply stood on a promise of Gods Word believing till it showed up and I'll tell you how God gave him the money for the jet! It was through a Saudi Arabian who's brother had been behead and he asked pastor creflo if he can come preach the gospel in his country so the Saudi pulled 60million dollars from his back pocket and gave it to pastor to buy the jet to travel to Saudi and the World to preach the gospel. So that's how he got the full amount not from the church or anyone! He believed God for the money because he believed God was calling him to travel the World and it prove to be correct! That's Gods calling on his life and God pays all cost needed period! Be happy with your portion and never estimate what you have with another brother that's an insult toward God! Be happy for what God has called you to do.
False and also stupid. Teach him some physics so it can open up his brain a little. He speaks so much out of context. World desperately needs good faithful servants but people are just occupied themselves with fleshy lusts
hell is widening
Hell a go full
They've installed a 'walking floor' to get the crowds in there faster. Hell is insatiable, like a leech - more more!
only GOD can send souls to hell
"I try not to speak on things that takes guts to speak on and to commit to my stance of pretending I preach from scripture and the life of Jesus Christ".
Fixed that for ya, Carl.
Sounds like a Joel Osteen (non)answer.
this guy is slick as oil lol
Hard to believe that its actually all true. Everything He teaches is very true.
Its easy to find Christ.
Brunswick Sign Company Matthew 7:13
LauedBeatZ and? thats your response? before quoting 1 verse of the Bible, you should read the2 verses before and after it. get real
Dave Seaton ok thank you for teaching me how to read God's Word or id be lost forever following false teachers such as Carl Lentz lol
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Carl Lentz's favorite words: "I don't know"
Just like the Olsteens. sadly they’re all lost. Pray for them.
He speaks just like the enemy.. "It's ok do what you want" .. "It's not for me to judge" etc. Then he cracks jokes, smooth talker... but the truth is he does not represent the God of the Bible. Where is his fear of God? As Christians we are not called to be like the world but rather: "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you" 2 Cor 6:17
You obviously haven't listened to any of his messages. You are talking like a typical legalist. Traditional religions are not God focused, but only Bible focused. Those are not to be confused. There are differences. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that we should fear God as in fearing for our life or oh no, i did something wrong. We are all born sinners, none are perfect, but we try and it should be because we love God, not out of fear. Hypothetical, I could go rob a bank if im broke, but out of fear of the consequences I don't. That doesn't change my hearts desire to do so does it? I don't flip off bad drivers because I want to please God because I love Him, not because I fear His consequences. Old school religions teach people to fear God, not to want to please Him and to follow and want to be like Him or love Him. Old school religions do not necessarily teach Christians to have or how to have a personal relationship with Christ. They command you to read the Bible and pray every day. There is no real personal relationship in that. That's just doing what we are told to do or expected to do as a Christian. Jesus never said "Do it", He said to chose. Jesus wants to be chosen, not forced down anyone's throat.
Are you blind? "We are not called to be like the world"..So your stereotyping new believers and using this statement incorrectly and taking the Bible out of context. lol, so you think that's what the Bible means by this verse is that we should dress differently, no tattoos (that may have come before salvation), etc? You couldn't be more wrong. And for you to teach this would name you as a false prophet. There is no possible way to completely separate yourself physically from the world. Its not possible. You also cant define "the unclean thing." Its not defined and you cant speculate and put words in Jesus mouth that are not there. I recommend you read the verses before and after the verse you mentioned.
What it means is that we let Jesus light shine through us to others. Its our actions that we separate ourselves from the world, not our physical appearances.
I don't go to Carl's church but I have watched a few sermons and heard his message. Never have I heard him say anywhere that its OK to do what you want. Now you are badmouthing a fellow Christian which is also not Biblical.
You should know, if you are a true believer, that someone seeking Christ, trying to have a personal relationship with Him, God will reveal Himself to that person and the path to righteousness in His time, not yours. Only God can save people, people cant save people. It seems to me Carl preaches more than anything to follow Jesus and His word by pursuing a personal relationship with Him. That is his church's goal and should be the goal of every church in the world. Because, you know, someone seeking Him will find Him. God will convict them of their sins in Gods time, not yours.
Take that old Ind Baptist brainwashing and flush it down the toilet. Old school Baptist always trying to add more words and thoughts to the Bible. Trying to make Christianity harder than it is. Trying to make choosing Jesus harder than it is.
The world revival will go on without your negative comments. The Bible promises it.
saltbearer Your statement is right on. People just want to hear what makes them feel good about what they are doing. I've been listening to David Wilkerson these past few weeks and his teachings have "really" been ministering to me. We don't have very many more pastors left like him. "Wide is the gate and broad is the road"
saltbearer amen to that
Brunswick Sign Company, I am not a Baptist, am I am not from America, and you make some good points, but the thing apart from dry religion that separates us from having a vibrant relationship with Jesus is sin my friend. Mixing with the world in a worldly way. No harm having a coffee with a non-Christian but taking shots in a bar is not for Christians. As a Christian I have done things that are wrong, and was glad, and should be glad to be called out on it. I think you should read the Epistles brother. They have a lot to say about Christian conduct and separation from the world. The gospels are great but don't cover everything for believers. And Carl if he was Biblical could say that prosperity teaching is wrong, greed is wrong and excessive lavish living at the expense of the congregation is wrong. And I have to say Mr Dollar exhibits all these things. He can always repent, but otherwise is disgracefully representing our Lord Jesus. Read the New Testament. All giving in the NT is to meet needs either of family or the family of believers, such as widows, the poor, or gospel workers but it is not to enrich the few at the expense of the many. This is so anti the character of God. A lot of TV preachers are guilty of this unfortunately and the world can see it and it brings reproach to the name of Christ.
+Michael NewZealand , I agree with you. The "problem" with preaching sermons against love of money, immorality, denying oneself and taking up the cross, suffering in Christ, etc. is that it calls into question the daily behavior of both speaker and hearers. If a "pastor" preaches against love of money while wearing a $100,000 dollar Rolex or driving a Rolls Royce, the audience might revolt and say, "Hey, YOU first!! How are YOU living?"" And all og Lentz's non-answers are deceit being framed as a non-judgmental attitude. But Jesus said, "Let what you say be simply "Yes " or "No"; anything more than this comes from evil. "(Matthew 5:37) I've seen several of Lentz's interviews and to me he comes across as someone with a product to sell who doesn't want to alienate any potential markets with clear cut scriptural statements. As for the fear of God, Lentz wears their jeans. Just look at "Carl Lentz, Justin Bieber's pastor, Talks Personal Style." It's the only mention of God in His one-minute interview. The opportunity to reach millions with the gospel and he spends it talking about his personal trinity (me, myself/I) while leaving God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit out of the picture. But you're free to make your own scriptural observations.
This guy does not resemble True Christianity. He is trying to make a name for himself in the Hollywood Life.
Amen.
He’s not saying anything because he’s gettIng bank from Hillsong .... smh 🤦♂️
Carl Lentz you are joking. Having a top of the range jet is NOT relative to anything!! That's the whole point. The economy is bad, people are struggling, working full time and can't pay for bills let alone luxuries. There are many many poor. So what is all this luxury 'relative' to? It's out of place, not 'relative' as you say. That is the issue.
Correct, the guy in question is called Dollar, preaches a lot about money, asks for and spends a lot of money, seems focused on money. It seems only money seeking Christians, who believe in tithing and God wanting them to be rich don't get what even most unbelievers can see. This is not Christ honoring. I don't judge his salvation, but he is way way off on this.
Have to agree with this. I kinda like his preaching, but in interviews he is weak. no such thing as being a relative issue. That's pathetic. What Carl should take into account is the power these men wield over the minds of people as they use their platforms to bewitch them with fables they make up! In defence of Carl I don't see him doing that. Yet?
He didn't force people he just said the tithe guarantees your salvation. That's all
all of them are on the same league
he tries not to speak out on things that could possibly make people disagree with him. He has no positions on anything
Jut N his opinions dont matter, only Gods and thats his point.
nope, they do matter
Jesus will have his position on his salvation don’t worry.
He should run for public office! What a slippery little dude!
This guy weisels out of every question
WOW... He should have been a lawyer. What a shame. Livin Large Carl..... Livin Large.
"For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he has no stately form NOR SPLENDOR; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." Isaiah 53:2 (emphasis mine)
His name says it all Mr Dollar 💵 I remember watching one of his sermons in him saying sow your million dollars in the church & you will reap it back 100 fold🤣
“I try not to speak on things.” I wish that were the case. This guy is a clown
I wonder why pastors do not speak on this. I think people need to hear the truth and to be lead by the truth.
because then they would be taken out of control
as you see, most of the negative comments are from preachers and higher ups in churches etc.
Only place to hear the true message is non-denomination churches. Organized religions took God and personal choice for God out of the church. Instead they use guilt and fear to do what is write. Not Biblical.
Wrong Lentz, it's not Creflo's Church. That's a big problem. People identify a Church so much with it belonging to a Pastor, they forget, it's God's Church. You are a Steward of God's Church for a time. It is the Lord's bride, and if you return His bride in poor condition, Lord have mercy on your soul. Poor Theology breeds poor decisions, as well as these money hungry so called Pastors.
What about the poor theology that teaches us its ok to speak out against God's people and judge them?
Samuel Warren “I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.” Romans 16:17-18
What gospel does Creflo preach ? How to get rich as a PASTOR ?
He is blessed and for that he is criticized
Brunswick Sign Company You're deceived. Please pray for discernment. Creflo Dollar is a false teacher, he teaches heresy saying that we are little gods and share on God's divine nature.
so sly with the words.
If it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck..
They are all in the same boat, they won’t criticize one another in fear of exploiting the lifestyle. I️ think it’s shameful.
Derek, why is criticizing necessary in your eyes?
Samuel Warren I don’t think it’s criticizing. Just my opinion. I think opening people’s eyes to heresy is every christian’s duty. There are many red flags to this gentleman and his church.
thanks for your answer, I was referring to your comment about "They won't criticize one another," and honestly I'd be more worried if there weren't red flags for you, He's a human too, putting the word pastor in front of his name doesn't change that. If you have red flags that you have witnessed, not just second hand info, you should seek him out and share it with him. Sure you probably won't get a chance in person, but that's biblical right? if you have a problem with your brother take it to your brother.
Carl Lentz is a good pastor. He is not asking his followers for money
Woe to the bloody city who seek to raise themselves up above God and seek to scatter the sheep..
His church!!??? Since when is the Church of Christ's anybodies church?
Very sharp answer : )
And who is surprised at this answer? Not me
Every Mega Church is false teaching. God said its easier for a camel to go through an eye of a needle than the rich in God's Kingdom
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What is the real name of crefto dollar?
This man is leading 6,000 people to hell my goodness. God have mercy on his soul.
Seriously, he rcvd his responses from Joel O...
`I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked (Rev. 3:14-17 RSV).
hooked4life64 and your point is? i can quote thr Bible too
Thank you for the scripture!! Love how scripture answers questions that partake in my life
What i hear carl Lentz saying "behind " the words he's speaking....."I dont wanna offend anybody"....
God is never wrong. All we can do is pray for them. God Will do the rest.
This guy is neither hot nor cold, meaning that his lack of strong conviction and Biblical clarity render him unusable. A sad testimony to the hollowness of our spiritual culture today.
Its not the fact he used his church to get a new jet, the reason people question him is cause most every sermon he preaches is about monetary gain and how the church should donate more so he can become richer. And the reason people are mad about this is cause he use's god and jesus to preach these things.
Give me a break, what a SNAKE!
If he does not speak on things he does not know. Why then is he a Pastor and who is held responsible for giving him this position.
If a homie is so filled with the word of God and reading his bible and talking and spending time with God on a daily basis and his entire life mission is to spread the word of God and he says I'm gonna do this as efficiently as I can with the least amount of stress. I need a jet to do this then a man should be given anything to spread Christ's message including a jet. But if a homie is like I wanna ball till I fall and collect me some tithes and offerings that's a whole different story.
He allows everything it seems. Wolf in sheep's clothing. An actually rockstar gangster clothing. What a evil man.
He was lubing the public up for his upcoming jet. Sorry it didn't work out Mr Fraud.....lmao
love this pastor
He cheated on his wife. Then he said he's seeking help, as if it wasn't his fault
What a wise answer
He cheated on his wife
It’s not about what you think, it’s about what God’s Word is. Hopefully he can get right with God, we should all pray for men like this, not speak heresy unto sinners, we are flesh and we need to come together in prayer and agree that people need to quit being mislead.
They would not go against each other like minded
Love Carl Lentz!
He cheated on his wife
I try not to speak against men who make merchandise of people, hirelings,homosexuals,adulterers,false apostles,unrighteousness,sin,evilworkers, but God will raise up his servants to proclaim his word because it has to be a witness against them.
"It's all relative." Really, Carl? Relative to what? Church, the alarms are going off like never before. It's time to wake from slumber. It's time to humble ourselves and pray earnestly. For those who continue to defend and support these false teachers, it's time to repent and get your heart right before God!
he's members gave him the money if you didn't give why are You making negative comments (NOT YOUR MONEY)
If we judge Creflo, Joel, Sam and John then are we doing what Jesus called us to do? He answered very well, judging makes people bitter, haters and critical....good job Carl.
The Berean judge not less you be judge. Meaning the same way you judge others you will also be judged.
God is a righteous judge, so many passages throughout the Old Testament particularly say that. Righteous judgement is important. Murder is wrong, rape is wrong, love of money is wrong, tithing is never commanded or asked of Christians. See how I made judgements? I did so by reading the Word of God and following what it says. Not hard, and you don't need to single out a person necessarily but some people stand out like sore thumbs. Mr Dollar happens to be one of those.
We as Christian's have become professional stone throwers as if we can judge that heart and intent of a man. Then we claim we have the spirit of discernment but yet deny the gifts of the holy spirit. Interesting
I seriously doubt any Christian would criticize Creflo for flying commercial.
Never seen him preaching the depth of bible .
He just uses cool words grabbing people's attention
A Pastor who loves the things of this world will eventually fall, Carl Lentz double life has been exposed.
It's not all relative bro, what about Creflo talkin bout lining up people who don't tithe and shooting them down with oozies?!!!!!
Let your yes be yes and your no be no... Lentz is just trying to be cool here.
Lol with that jet he still ain't pulled dwn An Memphis tho lol
He is afraid of saying the truth because he doesn’t want to be exposed. I don’t have to be a soothsayer to know he is not preaching the gospel
He’s defending Creflo because he’s planning on modeling his fithly lurker after him. There is no defense of such a lifestyle as a Christian pastor.
Bro what? U don't address homosexuality. U don't address a pastor using church money to buy a jet. What exactly is his beliefs as a Christian.
I think if the so called Christians read their Bible more often and understood it through wisdom than they would not fall easily into traps of the Covetous man. Its a shame that they do not realize this.
It is true things are relative but a private jet and rolls Royce? Come on now!!
They'll stand before Jesus and weep
I wonder if FATHER, JESUS AND HOLY GHOST are as fed up as I am with this guy, dollar, olsteen, hilllsong , Copeland, etc ?
The Bible says, "don't call yourselves teacher (rabbi, preacher, priest, pastor...) for you have ONE TEACHER (word of God) and you are ALL BROTHERS." Christianity is in error for many reasons, especially if men follow the teaching and superficial ramblings of other men! No rich, mega church leader is taking you past the grave, if you follow them.
Haters gonna hate. Jesus had haters when he walked this earth and he was a perfect man. Not even perfect is good enough if you a hater. You the one with the problem hater.
God does the judging
Isa 55:1
John 3:3
Change your title, it’s totally misleading
Do you know why Jesus walk? Because He preach how to be humble, not teach His church to live in luxury life.
He teach to serve others in a humble life.
John 13:16 : the servant is not greater than his lord.
If jesus is your lord, and he is live a humble life, how come u as His servant live a luxury life?
If the purpose of the private jet is to preach the gospel what's the problem? that's like saying Nah the ambulance costs too much money I'll take the bus to the hospital. Private jets save a lot of time in and out of gates and baggage. Jesus rode a donkey, used a rock as a pillow, was homeless, was a virgin and didn't have any money, how many material things do Christians who aren't supposedly rich have in their house? how many pairs of shoes? how many kinds of clothes? how many options on food? flat screen t.v., smart phones, 300k+ houses, 17k+ automobile, compared to Haitians ya'll is filthy rich them Haitians ain't got non of these luxuries
Why don’t these people that seem to have nothing better to do than try and find something wrong with everything and everyone.. just get a life 🥴
Exactly in church nobody gives by force!!!. So NEXT let Catholics make does st_p_d question- to me that’s nobody’s bussiness what anyone have
Rep alert.
But it's not just jets its their whole lifestyles. Jesus said The birds of the air have nest and foxes have dens but the son of man has no place to lay his head. I am not advocating for poor, destitute preachers but men like Creflo $ should realize their reflection of the Christ is very different from the bible.
What a lame answer... not surprising from a guy who is also a false teacher...
Creflos decades year old jet loses an engine over Europe. His pilots save his life. He goes to his 3,000,000 ministry partners and declares his desire. Jesus promises us the desires of our heart. Oh - he never asked his church for a dime. And a guy from the Middle East writes him a check for the jet because “they need you over here”. Haters are always in alignment with scripture. Problem is - they’re quoting Judas. “We could have sold this jet and given the money to the poor”. Not because they give a shit about the poor - it’s because they’re thieves.
His CHURCH really CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH
People have itching ears heaping up preachers and teachers for what they want to hear. Most of these people know not God only a form of godliness ( religion) ...nothing more and nothing less than what the Pharisees had....
I try not to speak on things all who read this and are listening to this man who fears man instead of God the bible is clear ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. " Roman 16:17 Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: this is not up for discussion and men like him pray for because he is an enemy of the church and God
Man he tryna defend creflo . Boy you weak in the faith!
This guy is so soft. No backbone, no courage. Even when asked other questions he dances around them. No boldness from this guy, he seems so concerned about attracting followers and not offending people and therefore doesn't speak the truth. He isn't bold for Christ and seems afraid to speak against sin.
LOL, Riding in someones jet doesnt mean they are less than a Christian.
Of course, people will try to ruin this guy. the devil is the only false teacher and will use media and unbelievers and even some believers to try to ruin Carls reputation. Devil is loving this interference and would love to get more people away from Christ in any way possible.
Why do some of you people stereotype a preacher?
God is stronger than any of you and His love will prevail over all those who oppose Him.
Humility. NOT. He should be in economy class preaching in the seats as Jesus would have. It's 5-30million for the plane, 200k for the pilots depending on rates. Taxes to land and take off are $ and the maintenance is 10% of the plane you buy. The cost is horrendous. Id rather that money given to the needy. But the needy, the ones in the seats get nothing from the church in terms of money back, it would be a very rare occurrence if it did. The fact that Carl says we dont have to give is a croc. We give under obedience to GOD and that is taken advantage of let me tell you. I don't give to the Church any more, I give directly to the poor, as that way I know I have done my bit and god says, Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed. Its better to give than receive and I think a private jet is not humility in the slightest. How many could you help with that money and when he can get on a plane and fly anywhere for $1500 and preach in his seat and save those on the way there. Its a matter of fame and comfort and the fact churches are making this much money, tells me the Vatican could of helped many as well. But its not about the poor its about the master that they serve, SELF.
To Follow on when Jesus came to this earth did he ask for a Gold Hummer chariot. Ruby Rings for you to kiss when you bowed before him. The king of the world came as a servant and lived with the poor. What have pastors learned from the character of Christ. NOTHING.
These false teachers are snake!
How is this false teaching??
Wyatt Staggers Lentz constantly avoids answering questions that have pretty clear answers if you actually study the Bible. He constantly talks about personal feelings/thoughts, vs taking a real biblical stance, because it might offend people.
Quenton Willis well he's just saying he doesn't know the situation of this private jet incident so he isn't gonna make assumptions acting like he knows.
Come on man. There's no justification for a 60 million dollar jet. And Lentz consistently dodges questions. A constantly avoids taking a biblical stands and has shown he's not willing to stand for the truth. Not saying he should Bible Whip anyone. But when asked your beliefs, as a Pastor, you have a responsibility to speak the truth.
Exactly speaking the truth in love. There is NO reason for any Christian minister having a 60 million dollar jet. Good on you brother for saying it like it is.
The people are trying to buy a blessing or prosperity thats the problem! Wen you fibd out you got played dont blame or discredit the Creator! Blame false prophets disgusting representation and false doctrine thats being teached
HEY BUDDY! pastor creflo never asked from his congregation a dime to put toward the jet needing for ministry pastor simply stood on a promise of Gods Word believing till it showed up and I'll tell you how God gave him the money for the jet! It was through a Saudi Arabian who's brother had been behead and he asked pastor creflo if he can come preach the gospel in his country so the Saudi pulled 60million dollars from his back pocket and gave it to pastor to buy the jet to travel to Saudi and the World to preach the gospel. So that's how he got the full amount not from the church or anyone! He believed God for the money because he believed God was calling him to travel the World and it prove to be correct! That's Gods calling on his life and God pays all cost needed period! Be happy with your portion and never estimate what you have with another brother that's an insult toward God! Be happy for what God has called you to do.
Are the poor and homeless welcome in Dollar's jet when he's not using it? How about his mansions?
Mapogo Tribe I wonder how many meals 65 million dollars could buy the hungry starving people in 3rd world countries
Vanessa Loy do you let unknown homeless people drive your car? stay in your house?
Brian Ucem, probably 25 cents a day could feed a family. Are YOU sending any money? Let those who are innocent cast the first stone.
We gave 5 figures last year. Any other silly comments you want to make? You're defending a greedy millionaire HUSTLER and you should he ashamed.
Jesus Christ pbuh is not y’all God read John 17:3 and acts 2:22
weak preacher, weak opinion, weak leadership
lol your channel is hilarious. To each their own but you guys need to be focusing on God than pretending to be the religious police.
you speak the word not man's thought your father is the devil!
fraud
Weakkkkkkk
False and also stupid. Teach him some physics so it can open up his brain a little. He speaks so much out of context. World desperately needs good faithful servants but people are just occupied themselves with fleshy lusts
This is a Joke!!! This man is a false teacher!!!! You're not to flaunt your wealth or be prodigal.