I appreciate Carl and Laura’s vulnerability to lean into the hard conversations. I think this serves a cautionary tale for a lot of people on what to avoid and how to get up if you do fall. Glad they did the work.
This is an attempt to repair his image so he can make money. He preyed on women in his church. He needed help? He couldn't stop cheating on his wife? Someone needed to help him to stop using women and being a hypocrite.
Rooting for Carl and Laura! Your mistake does not have to define your entire life. God is faithful and he can restore anyone who repents. I believe he is sincere and I pray the best for them 🙏🏾🙌🏾
I was a server in Montclair, NJ and I had a table, a father and son. I took their order and shortly after the son passed out, completely unconscious on the floor, and Carl Lentz was at the table across from him, Laura as well. When I say that man got into instant dad mode, I meannnn. He tried to wake the boy and then told someone to get some orange juice which he gave to the boy, Once he was conscious. The father of the boy was incomplete shock unable to move. But I remember thinking damn Carl Lentz is a good guy.
That's commendable as a Dad but how about besides being a "good guy" where is THE JESUS HE CLAIMS TO PREACH. We all are getting how godd and how great who is????? Carl lentz ,, ladies and gentlemen
@@eugenemoreno-l6w as soon as you realize no man/woman of god is perfect, the better. Even Jesus’ disciples had their own demons to fight. Judas, Paul, etc. That’s why after he realized Judas’ betrayal he died for our sins, it was always inevitable, human nature, the classic good and evil, someone had to do it.
Co-dendency, and an enabler. Of course she is staying for the limelight he has. They're always trying to be in front of camera, or wanting a crowd to pay attention. That cannot be condusive to building true intimacy.
Charlemagne and Envy did this interview very well. Very professional. Carl Lentz and Family’s Testimony is a true testament of God’s grace, mercy and restoration power.
I was a part of hillsong nyc/nj for 7 years. Served. Led. Participated in so much. And this is the first time I hear him apologize like this. And it means a lot. I’ve been watching their podcast and I commend their openness vulnerability and honesty. 🙏🏼
@@pareeshaslaughter6798 I don't trust celebrity pastors. Cause there is a HIGH chance they be in some of the mess that the celeb be doing, rather it be drugs, sex. The affair is probably the least of what he's done. I mean are we forgetting td jakes and diddy?? I would stay away.
I had the opportunity to sit under Pastor Lentz preaching a few times before the “fall”. And even in the midst of his downward spiral before he was revealed, I felt his intensity, his passion and his sincerity when he spoke of God’s love, grace and mercy. It was like through his preaching he was crying out to God like King David even though we, the public, had no idea about his private life. I see you Pastor Lentz and I would sit under your pastorship again because even though you were in sin, your message was still Truth. And now that you’re living in honesty, your transparency is giving the rest of us hope as you live out your restoration story for all to see. To God be the glory and God’s blessings to you, Mrs. Laura and your family 🙌🏼
3:27 men are so annoying sometimes...the woman he cheated on is literally sitting right there. Because they are all former cheaters, of course they feel like a person cheating should get some slack.
❤❤❤❤❤He planted Psalm 23 in my heart❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️I always felt moved when he preached the gospel. Thank you for this interview! Laura is a true GEM!!✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
I feel like this guy is not trying to get sympathy but is really doing the work to take ownership, it's inspiring there are so many points in the conversation where he could play a victim but he always goes back to the point that it was his mistake, everyone makes them but it can be a lonely place to own up..... Someone will see this and be inspired by his courage and that's how you make the world better IMO
@@bandile126 Biblical repentance, true humility, less psychological therapy jargon. Less 50% blame 50% responsibility. Acknowledge love for celebrity, money, fame, and sensuality. Acknowledge a lack of love for God over everything else.
@@RCGWho the problem is that this may not be the platform for that whos to say he hasn't done that, God calls people to love and not self-righteous condemnation of others, the problem with that is that everyone has sin, I agree he is friends with celebrities but only God know would if that's good or bad, Jesus was friends with prostitues and religious leaders hated him for it
I dont know you guys personally, but I did hear about your story and listened to your podcast. I am so very proud of you for taking ownership of your mistake and working on yourself. Your wife and children are so amazing for standing by you and loving you through it all. I pray that your testimony help married couples and family overcome and restore the family unit again. God bless you and your family.
As a Christian, that was very critical of Carl, this was wholesome and it shows how God will humble us because he doesn't just care about the people we preach to but our spiritual well-being too... if we are going down the wrong path he loves us enough to allow it to blow up in our face so our souls are saved, this was God's love, he could have died in the adulterous state, but for the sake of his ministry he did not allow that to be his end story, its a testimony of his true salvation. i believe once truly saved you God will make sure you are not lost, however that may go
Carl Lentz was my Pastor @ Hillsong . I miss him very much...Nobody's perfect - It's really good to see you both back once again. May the love of God surrounds you and family. Peace Be With You - Much love...💯❤️😇
Excellent interview. This is such a beautiful story of grace and redemption. Carl, you have done the work. I notice watching you that you put your head down a lot. You've been redeemed. You've been forgiven. Yes, you messed up big time but yes, you've worked your butt off to heal. Hold your head high. It's ok to be proud of where you are now! Laura, I've been through it too. You're grace and strength make you even more beautiful than you already are! Blessings to your family! Thank you for your honesty and openness. We need your story in today's world! Thank you
I love Laura’s heart, there is so much beauty, truth and deep love within her. You can see the work happening through the both of them. I am so proud and also commend this beautiful couple in coming back into the lime light, and sharing their life. I commend them for being human and speaking their real truth with real situations. ❤
I love Carl and Lora! The lord used Carls sermons to change my life! We’re all flawed and God uses flawed people. A righteous man falls seven times and rises up again!
Thank you for introducing me to this couple. I'm struggling right now with the same thing in my marriage and I have really found strength in their story.
@@alyssag.5758usually a pastor steps down but he had to Leave the church because other egotistical issues he had. He probably would have been checked publicly in a different way.
When we allow God to help us pick the pieces of our broken hearts up we are invited to come into a space where the best and purest version of ourselves is revealed. This man and his wife are experiencing just that. And the best thing about it is that this same God and offer to be healed is open to each and everyone of us. Thank you for this Karl, Laura, and The Breakfast Club and for keeping it so real!
I don’t know but just heard their story men… she said is A STRONG WOMAN. I hope he will never ever take her for granted anymore. She is just amazing how she stood with him. Can’t wait to read her book one day.
Carl is still my guy!! He did what he did, owned up to it! 🤷🏿... kept it moving!!! There's mfs on here that still blame others for what they did, in their 40's 50's. 🤷🏿🤷🏿
For those that say, they are not a Christian anymore after his betrayal. Then they weren’t Christian to begin with. You have to follow God and not people. Carl is just a man and he made mistakes like all of us do. I hope this strengthen a lot of people to remember that only God is perfect. Don’t place your idols in people or things. I hope they can work it out. I think having three kids means you have to think of them and not just yourself which his wife seems like an incredible woman.
As a member of Nyc hillsong at the time i was very disappointed in how Hillsong handled it, they removed Laura from getting paid when she probably needed it most and it made my stomach turn when Bryan Huston went on air calling Carl a narcissist, attacking someone who was clearly trying to get through this tough time w his family. It was disheartening to see the church remove their support for this family, the opposite of what the church teaches. I am so happy they made it through this storm and their kids are so much wiser, so much more empathetic *as the church should be* Best Wishes to Carl, Laura and their family
You gotta understand it from Brian and Church Leadership point of view though. Carl knowingly led the Hillsong Church while he was battling this sin. Someone of that caliber should have stepped down right away but his sin was found out that led to him going through this. For them they had to take quick judgement call to restore faith of the church goers in Hillsong Church that the priesthood is untainted. And also so that Carl and his family can get the redemption they need and rehab so they can recover.
You will make it Pastor Carl, Laura and your family. GOD LOVES US ALL and that's why he died for our sins on the cross. Proud that you are now free and able to talk about your shortcomings hence seek for forgiveness without revenge. Breakfast club, thanks for always nourisihng the community with your platform, bigups! GBU!
So proud of Carl for the tough work he’s been doing. Most people still mad at him have no clue that he’s lost so much more than he ever gained through illicit relationships.
Shalom, WAKE THAT MIND UP! Thanks for sharing this necessary conversation with Pastor Carl & Laura Lentz, I appreciate their transparency keeping in mind everything that Jesus Christ taught about everything we go through. Jesus Christ is the G0-TO GOD, whatever or whenever we face problems in our life. Pastor Carl & Laura, thank you.
I hope Carl knows that he doesn’t needs anyone’s Grace but Christ. Forget those who carry the load in unforgiveness. He has his family. Keep it moving Carl and God blessed. Shout out to the wife for staying on the narrow path
We are all "called" to ministe,r but making a career out of ministry is a choice with higher standards. And like with any job, you don't keep up those standards, you get fired. Will you get hired again? Possibly. But, the resume' will have a taint.
I hope he doesn’t fail you, Laura. I’m going and have been going through this for years. I’m ready to leave. I’m 65 and don’t want to spend the rest of my life babysitting a husband. I want a strong husband with courage to be true to others, not deceitful. I’ll never trust again. He doesn’t do the work.
I get what you mean. I think she is still not fully healed from the situation and she’s sounds like she’s still checked out. I agree I hope he doesn’t fail her again.
Much Respect for them being so vulnerable and use their hardest journey to use it for good!! And Laura, you are one of a kind! For you to stay and use this journey to help many women out-there is speechless xx pray for you and your family, God is good and He is full of Grace. All of this make us realize we all need Jesus❤.
This is making me cry - as much as it's heartbreaking because of what happened and what this family had gone through, especially Laura, they are showing us how Jesus would have given anybody grace. Grace is such a powerful thing. It's beautiful. And you don't really realise how powerful and beautiful it is until you hear or see stories like this. This is Jesus written all over it!
Appreciate the courage it took for you to do this interview and the honesty and humility you displayed . Thank you for God’s grace and mercy over us. We are never qualified
Beautiful how God can restore and renew the ugliest of situations if people are willing to step into humility. I hope their story continues to impact people with brokenness in this area.
My kids and i going thru this now w my husband who hasnt taken ownership, we r still married and they give me the hope ive needed and not had a Godly example till now. Thank you
@@EonSoundhe’s obviously not taking responsibility for his actions. Which in turn may mean he’s making excuses, blaming her or not showing any remorse for his actions. I don’t know what else it could mean.
On so many levels, this was a great interview. Ricardo Authenticity Rating is 10 out of 10. We learnt so much from this interview that it should be a masterclass teaching about the dangers of fame and the fall from grace. picking up the pieces of a broken trust and mending it back, one step at a time, rebuilding trust, and overcoming shame. Love is a powerful medium, and it was felt throughout the podcast. Dj Envy stood out. It was his moments and the questions he asked that carried the weight and eventual success of this episode. Special praise to the Hillsong couple for not giving up on your marriage in the toughest moments. This will inspire others to just come clean and face their shortcomings. 2024 is the coming out year. The challenge to drop egos and lay on all the table and rebuild from the ashes. Waiting for the next great reveal.
🚩 For anyone who is falling for this man’s act… 1. Narcissists don’t change; they only change their tactics to get more supply. 2. Healthy marriages do have ups and downs, but they shouldn’t involve zippers. 3. A person’s love shouldn’t be measured by how much pain from their partner they’re willing to endure 4. Cheating is a choice and Carl made it repeatedly 5. If you can’t or won’t practice what you preach, stay out of the pulpit. Let’s not normalize pastors failing to meet the basic standards of their religion while calling out others supposed “sins.”
Well Carl is not a Pastor by any biblical standard. He was just a caregiver of the Hillsong brand which is not a church. Why? Because they don't preach the Gospel of God about Jesus. They just extended their business from Australia to new york. It's all about the money.
I’m glad they were able to work it out. I truly hoped that he would be able to do the work and find redemption and it seems genuine. I hope that they can continue to move forward successfully.
God is a god of second chances. Thank you for sharing your story, you have no idea how many marriages you are helping by being vulnerable and so transparent.
The raw honesty and humility. They are more powerful influencers for Jesus now than ever before. As you come before the Lord in transparency you will be transformed from glory to glory, goodness to goodness. Respect for your accountability to God Carl, in awe of your strength and goodness Laura you are inspirational. Much love for you all ❤️🙏🏻🔥
Despite whatever mistakes he had done in the past .... Appreciate Pastor Carl Lentz and his Wife for their radical Passion Serving Hillsong Church and have inspired so many people to Christ ❤❤❤❤❤
This couple is still healing, it takes time. Why would you go share your intimate life on this woke platform? No thanks! Not everything needs to be shared in front of the whole world!
I am glad he made the distinction about how a pastor is supposed to live his life in a different way than others as outlined in 1 Timothy 3:1-7. The standard is much higher.
I don’t understand why people think pastors are infallible. We all make mistakes. Fortunately for some of us our errors and sins are not on a public stage. I wish Mr. and Mrs. Lentz all the best life has to offer. May Christ operate in their lives so that their healing ministry help marriages everywhere.
Because too many people don't take responsibility for their gullibility, infantile trust of authority, and any participation in a Cult of Personality. Pastor-Idols are something humans are vulnerable to, and there are enough wolves in sheep's clothing who know darn well how to exploit such immaturity.
Love you and respect you pastor carl most important thing about everything is that GOD his already forgive you...pray that you and your family heal from everything and get back to doing GOD'S work soon....
I knew a little about them before. I heard a little about this scandal not for me to judge. However I really enjoyed this interview I feel like he spoke truth and Laura I love her honesty, all she wanted to do was protect her children and those others wouldn’t now look how they’ve fallen, very truthful and honest answer!!
God’s grace and mercy is AWESOME! I thank God every day that he is God and not man, because the grace and mercy would come with a cause and condemnation.
We were all born into sin which means we all have the capacity within us to made bad decisions. It is ONLY by God's goodness and his grace that we are able to make good decisions, so we have to consider this when we start passing judgement towards others. We have no right to do so. This does not mean that people should not be held accountable for their poor choices, but Jesus literally died so that we would not have to live in regret for our past mistakes. Happy to see this couple doing the work and getting back to a happy space!
He was honest with himself and Laura by admitting that he only confessed because he got caught and it was going to come out publicly. At least he was honest in that. I admire Laura for being there for him. That takes some doing.
Imagine being a former pastor and Christian and being on a show with a person who calls himself a “god” and the other who goes by the name “envy,” and there is literally nothing different between your life and theirs. When Carl was asked who he wished he could have gone to for help; referenced Charlemagne the False God’s book! Jesus said to let our light shine, not blend in. I am thankful for Carl’s restoration and Laura’s faith to stick it out. But there was literally nothing in this conversation that gave explicit glory to God through Jesus Christ (repentance, sin, heaven, hell, was never touched). Carl talks like the world, acts like the world, and the world loves him as their own. Jesus said in Luke 6:26, “Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.”
You are what’s wrong with how people perceive Christianity. Instead of speaking on the pure openness and beauty of this man’s healing journey and faith, you would rather criticize semantics. Jesus wasn’t petty and judgmental…so who are you really following.
@@Truthteller38 Sadly, you’re going to be really surprised when you read Revelation and see who Jesus actually is. Likewise, you failed to note that I celebrated both Carl and his wife. I just added the fact that he came with no Word or gospel and had 100% agreement and great vibes with two obvious sinners. Jesus loves you as you are but too much to let you stay that way. Carl and his wife are loved by the world because the world is just like them. The world loves messed up people, because they are just as messed up. However, Jesus told us to be holy and have a moral difference that shines light into their darkness and exposes their deeds of darkness. I leave with some words of Jesus you might not have read yet-- Revelation 3:16, “So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:3, “Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.” Revelation 2:20-23, “20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.”
When people fall, leaders are there to support. When leaders fall, people scatter 😂 Good for Laura, the kids, and this guy for focusing on their healing and restoration instead of fighting a battle that distracted them from it.
Question i would have asked him. ✝️ " could u have taken what u did - if it was the other way? if your wife cheated the same way could u stay like she did?
I appreciate Carl and Laura’s vulnerability to lean into the hard conversations. I think this serves a cautionary tale for a lot of people on what to avoid and how to get up if you do fall. Glad they did the work.
This is an attempt to repair his image so he can make money. He preyed on women in his church.
He needed help? He couldn't stop cheating on his wife? Someone needed to help him to stop using women and being a hypocrite.
Ruslan!!!! 🫡
Agreed 👍🏾
Just say you want them to come on your show so your gossip channel can get more views
Much respect Ruslan! 🙏🏾
Rooting for Carl and Laura! Your mistake does not have to define your entire life. God is faithful and he can restore anyone who repents. I believe he is sincere and I pray the best for them 🙏🏾🙌🏾
This is how Christians are allowed to get away with whatever they want. Blessed be thy without a moral compass as long as they repent! 😂
I will always respect a man who takes accountability! Much love to this brother!
Right because they never ask for permission, only asking for forgiveness 😂😂😂 I’m not fooled at all he hasn’t changed and it’s still happening SMH
Right. We all f up but I’m glad he was honest instead of lying more. He deserves a 2nd chance if he is doing the work to change
But as he said, he only told his wife/took accountability cause he got caught!
Amen Bro 🙏🏾
So someone can “r8pe” your child but if accountable…. Goes to jail and does their time- you RESPECT THEM? Man GTFOH!!!!!!
I was a server in Montclair, NJ and I had a table, a father and son. I took their order and shortly after the son passed out, completely unconscious on the floor, and Carl Lentz was at the table across from him, Laura as well. When I say that man got into instant dad mode, I meannnn. He tried to wake the boy and then told someone to get some orange juice which he gave to the boy, Once he was conscious. The father of the boy was incomplete shock unable to move. But I remember thinking damn Carl Lentz is a good guy.
Powerful
That's commendable as a Dad but how about besides being a "good guy" where is THE JESUS HE CLAIMS TO PREACH. We all are getting how godd and how great who is????? Carl lentz ,, ladies and gentlemen
Had to check myself after reading this. Because it wasn’t even the affair that turned me off
@@eugenemoreno-l6wJesus is exactly where he should be. Front and centre. Go to Him and ask Him directly. Don’t look at Carl
@@eugenemoreno-l6w as soon as you realize no man/woman of god is perfect, the better. Even Jesus’ disciples had their own demons to fight. Judas, Paul, etc. That’s why after he realized Judas’ betrayal he died for our sins, it was always inevitable, human nature, the classic good and evil, someone had to do it.
Laura Lentz - the only woman that matters right now. She's a real one....a real...real one!
Facts
Yeah, ok😂
Co-dendency, and an enabler. Of course she is staying for the limelight he has. They're always trying to be in front of camera, or wanting a crowd to pay attention. That cannot be condusive to building true intimacy.
Charlemagne and Envy did this interview very well. Very professional. Carl Lentz and Family’s Testimony is a true testament of God’s grace, mercy and restoration power.
I agree. Well done to them on this interview.
That's because they're both cheaters, so they can relate
Don’t fall for it. Once a cheater always a cheater
@Samoanhulk24 not necessarily, people do change. But I know one thing you can't lie to God so if you change make sure it's sincere and real
They did , I’m surprised 😊
I was a part of hillsong nyc/nj for 7 years. Served. Led. Participated in so much. And this is the first time I hear him apologize like this. And it means a lot.
I’ve been watching their podcast and I commend their openness vulnerability and honesty.
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Everyone goes through it. It’s how you learn and heal from it. May God heal him and his family.
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…….what about his daughter in the mental hospital?
Justin Beiber's Pastor!
Well said Amen to that🙏🏾
@@pareeshaslaughter6798 I don't trust celebrity pastors. Cause there is a HIGH chance they be in some of the mess that the celeb be doing, rather it be drugs, sex. The affair is probably the least of what he's done. I mean are we forgetting td jakes and diddy?? I would stay away.
I had the opportunity to sit under Pastor Lentz preaching a few times before the “fall”. And even in the midst of his downward spiral before he was revealed, I felt his intensity, his passion and his sincerity when he spoke of God’s love, grace and mercy. It was like through his preaching he was crying out to God like King David even though we, the public, had no idea about his private life. I see you Pastor Lentz and I would sit under your pastorship again because even though you were in sin, your message was still Truth. And now that you’re living in honesty, your transparency is giving the rest of us hope as you live out your restoration story for all to see. To God be the glory and God’s blessings to you, Mrs. Laura and your family 🙌🏼
Best comment I think I’ve ever seen online ❤🙏🏼
This is the spell he had people under: charm, charisma, drama etc He was the Star, not Jesus.
3:27 men are so annoying sometimes...the woman he cheated on is literally sitting right there. Because they are all former cheaters, of course they feel like a person cheating should get some slack.
Let me tell you something,these Guys make a mockery of the word pastor! please don’t get me started!
❤❤❤❤❤He planted Psalm 23 in my heart❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️I always felt moved when he preached the gospel. Thank you for this interview! Laura is a true GEM!!✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
I feel like this guy is not trying to get sympathy but is really doing the work to take ownership, it's inspiring there are so many points in the conversation where he could play a victim but he always goes back to the point that it was his mistake, everyone makes them but it can be a lonely place to own up..... Someone will see this and be inspired by his courage and that's how you make the world better IMO
It's so funny that all people have to do is say "doing the work" and "responsibility " a couple times and they're golden.
@@RCGWho what should they be saying? What would you rather have?
@@bandile126 Biblical repentance, true humility, less psychological therapy jargon. Less 50% blame 50% responsibility. Acknowledge love for celebrity, money, fame, and sensuality. Acknowledge a lack of love for God over everything else.
@@RCGWho the problem is that this may not be the platform for that whos to say he hasn't done that, God calls people to love and not self-righteous condemnation of others, the problem with that is that everyone has sin, I agree he is friends with celebrities but only God know would if that's good or bad, Jesus was friends with prostitues and religious leaders hated him for it
I dont know you guys personally, but I did hear about your story and listened to your podcast. I am so very proud of you for taking ownership of your mistake and working on yourself. Your wife and children are so amazing for standing by you and loving you through it all. I pray that your testimony help married couples and family overcome and restore the family unit again. God bless you and your family.
1 John 1:9
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
But Carl merely made "mistakes".
Respect to Envy and CTG for platforming the Lentz' they out here trying to help. Major respect and class!
As a Christian, that was very critical of Carl, this was wholesome and it shows how God will humble us because he doesn't just care about the people we preach to but our spiritual well-being too... if we are going down the wrong path he loves us enough to allow it to blow up in our face so our souls are saved, this was God's love, he could have died in the adulterous state, but for the sake of his ministry he did not allow that to be his end story, its a testimony of his true salvation. i believe once truly saved you God will make sure you are not lost, however that may go
Yes, amen, so true!
Lol. Do you call this humble? 😂😂😂😂
This is pure showmanship.
Very true... sometimes exposure is a mercy.
Carl Lentz was my Pastor @ Hillsong . I miss him very much...Nobody's perfect - It's really good to see you both back once again. May the love of God surrounds you and family. Peace Be With You - Much love...💯❤️😇
Excellent interview. This is such a beautiful story of grace and redemption. Carl, you have done the work. I notice watching you that you put your head down a lot. You've been redeemed. You've been forgiven. Yes, you messed up big time but yes, you've worked your butt off to heal. Hold your head high. It's ok to be proud of where you are now! Laura, I've been through it too. You're grace and strength make you even more beautiful than you already are! Blessings to your family! Thank you for your honesty and openness. We need your story in today's world! Thank you
This is real. I respect the honesty and humility. God bless them and their family.
Man, Carl's sermons changed my life. Grace and peace upon the Lentz family. Hope he can eventually in the future get back up and share the word.
I love Laura’s heart, there is so much beauty, truth and deep love within her. You can see the work happening through the both of them. I am so proud and also commend this beautiful couple in coming back into the lime light, and sharing their life. I commend them for being human and speaking their real truth with real situations. ❤
Laura!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m all the way from Aussie ❤ I can see you! 🎉🎉
I love Carl and Lora! The lord used Carls sermons to change my life! We’re all flawed and God uses flawed people. A righteous man falls seven times and rises up again!
Something good will come out of this. God is in control.
Yes.
Stop falling for these Pastors that are charlatans
@@alyssag.5758 not falling for pastors I know how God works and he will use the devil if he has to in order to take a negative to positive
@@alyssag.5758you mean people who are human.....are you a charlatan because we dont know your sins
Thank you for introducing me to this couple. I'm struggling right now with the same thing in my marriage and I have really found strength in their story.
Respect to Carl he took accountability and did the work to get his family back
The church as a whole needs to grow. Take this as an opportunity.
So happy Carls finally getting to share his story from a place of strength and humility
Would he have been honest if his mistress didn't expose him?
@@alyssag.5758maybe just maybe this is exactly how it was supposed to happen.
@@alyssag.5758usually a pastor steps down but he had to
Leave the church because other egotistical issues he had. He probably would have been checked publicly in a different way.
@@Mush2389 maybe your spouse will cheat on you.
When we allow God to help us pick the pieces of our broken hearts up we are invited to come into a space where the best and purest version of ourselves is revealed. This man and his wife are experiencing just that. And the best thing about it is that this same God and offer to be healed is open to each and everyone of us. Thank you for this Karl, Laura, and The Breakfast Club and for keeping it so real!
I don’t know but just heard their story men… she said is A STRONG WOMAN. I hope he will never ever take her for granted anymore. She is just amazing how she stood with him. Can’t wait to read her book one day.
Carl is still my guy!! He did what he did, owned up to it! 🤷🏿... kept it moving!!! There's mfs on here that still blame others for what they did, in their 40's 50's. 🤷🏿🤷🏿
Facts!!!!
he loves the attention - good or bad.............
@@JoanneGreene-g4l ok....🤷🏿
Laura’s voice is Sooo important here and I really hope we can hear more from her.
For those that say, they are not a Christian anymore after his betrayal. Then they weren’t Christian to begin with. You have to follow God and not people. Carl is just a man and he made mistakes like all of us do. I hope this strengthen a lot of people to remember that only God is perfect. Don’t place your idols in people or things. I hope they can work it out. I think having three kids means you have to think of them and not just yourself which his wife seems like an incredible woman.
As a member of Nyc hillsong at the time i was very disappointed in how Hillsong handled it, they removed Laura from getting paid when she probably needed it most and it made my stomach turn when Bryan Huston went on air calling Carl a narcissist, attacking someone who was clearly trying to get through this tough time w his family. It was disheartening to see the church remove their support for this family, the opposite of what the church teaches. I am so happy they made it through this storm and their kids are so much wiser, so much more empathetic *as the church should be* Best Wishes to Carl, Laura and their family
You gotta understand it from Brian and Church Leadership point of view though.
Carl knowingly led the Hillsong Church while he was battling this sin. Someone of that caliber should have stepped down right away but his sin was found out that led to him going through this.
For them they had to take quick judgement call to restore faith of the church goers in Hillsong Church that the priesthood is untainted.
And also so that Carl and his family can get the redemption they need and rehab so they can recover.
You will make it Pastor Carl, Laura and your family. GOD LOVES US ALL and that's why he died for our sins on the cross. Proud that you are now free and able to talk about your shortcomings hence seek for forgiveness without revenge.
Breakfast club, thanks for always nourisihng the community with your platform, bigups! GBU!
So happy TBC had them on the show. So real, so raw, so powerful. Laura is the REALEST. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Sending so much love to the Lentz family!!
God does not throw people away when they mess up.
So proud of Carl for the tough work he’s been doing. Most people still mad at him have no clue that he’s lost so much more than he ever gained through illicit relationships.
Shalom, WAKE THAT MIND UP! Thanks for sharing this necessary conversation with Pastor Carl & Laura Lentz, I appreciate their transparency keeping in mind everything that Jesus Christ taught about everything we go through. Jesus Christ is the G0-TO GOD, whatever or whenever we face problems in our life. Pastor Carl & Laura, thank you.
Just became one of my favorite interviews from the Breakfast Club. So much realness and maturity at that table from all of them.
Mom is the ❤ of the home. Hoping he walks CLOSE with the Lord so as to not squander the rest of his life.
The accountability is top tier! I applaud them both.
Facts
Envy did a great job on this interview 👏🏼
Being a child and looking at your mother as a way to gauge your forgiveness towards your father is so real.
I hope Carl knows that he doesn’t needs anyone’s Grace but Christ. Forget those who carry the load in unforgiveness. He has his family. Keep it moving Carl and God blessed. Shout out to the wife for staying on the narrow path
Being a Pastor is a call from God not a title even if you lose your job you still have to do what God called you to do
We are all "called" to ministe,r but making a career out of ministry is a choice with higher standards. And like with any job, you don't keep up those standards, you get fired. Will you get hired again? Possibly. But, the resume' will have a taint.
Period sis🙌
That’s what I thought. But I think they mean that he is no longer shepherding or leading ppl which is part of the role as a Pastor
Love this family. Praying for Carl and Laura to have an amazing marriage and a great life. Praying for Jesus to continue to use this story for good.
I hope he doesn’t fail you, Laura.
I’m going and have been going through this for years. I’m ready to leave. I’m 65 and don’t want to spend the rest of my life babysitting a husband. I want a strong husband with courage to be true to others, not deceitful.
I’ll never trust again. He doesn’t do the work.
I get what you mean. I think she is still not fully healed from the situation and she’s sounds like she’s still checked out. I agree I hope he doesn’t fail her again.
These are hard conversations for both Carl and his wife and I'm proud of them. May God continue to heal, bless, prosper this amazing family 🙏 ❤
Much Respect for them being so vulnerable and use their hardest journey to use it for good!! And Laura, you are one of a kind! For you to stay and use this journey to help many women out-there is speechless xx pray for you and your family, God is good and He is full of Grace. All of this make us realize we all need Jesus❤.
One of Envy's BEST interviews. Super proud of the depth.
Laura you are gorgeous and I look forward to listening to you more!!! So much wisdom and grace XO
She is speaking for a lot of women! Tell it !!!!!
I hope none of you are the same person you were 10 years ago.
Legit was reading comments to see if I was the only one thinking the same thing!
This is the comment 👍🏽
This dude is a used car salesman that got caught
Found the person from 10 years ago! ☝🏿
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@mr_noyb
DJ ENVY on his couple therapist HAT. Mic drop
That part! He did a phenomenal job I this interview Salute to him
@@ahmedics82 Agree! Envy asked great questions
So glad this man got back his life and family!!
Hillsong gave me my favorite gospel songs of which “Oceans,” tops my list. The song still brings me to tears.
This is making me cry - as much as it's heartbreaking because of what happened and what this family had gone through, especially Laura, they are showing us how Jesus would have given anybody grace. Grace is such a powerful thing. It's beautiful. And you don't really realise how powerful and beautiful it is until you hear or see stories like this. This is Jesus written all over it!
Appreciate the courage it took for you to do this interview and the honesty and humility you displayed .
Thank you for God’s grace and mercy over us. We are never qualified
Beautiful how God can restore and renew the ugliest of situations if people are willing to step into humility. I hope their story continues to impact people with brokenness in this area.
Carl is a fast talker. He reminds me of a used car salesman, selling us the used marriage... now that it's spruced up like new! 👍
😂😂😂
My kids and i going thru this now w my husband who hasnt taken ownership, we r still married and they give me the hope ive needed and not had a Godly example till now. Thank you
Forgive me for prying but what do you mean by not owning to it? Genuinely asking.
@@EonSoundhe’s obviously not taking responsibility for his actions. Which in turn may mean he’s making excuses, blaming her or not showing any remorse for his actions. I don’t know what else it could mean.
Envy killed this interview
In a good way or a bad way ?
@@kylebailey9034in a good way!! His personal experience allowed him to ask all the appropriate questions..
I agree
@@kylebailey9034good way because he’s been in this situation as well as the pastor and his wife.
Yup asking the right questions especially around the 7 min mark.
I am just thankful that you both are working things out and letting God be the center part. That's what's so awesome.
On so many levels, this was a great interview. Ricardo Authenticity Rating is 10 out of 10. We learnt so much from this interview that it should be a masterclass teaching about the dangers of fame and the fall from grace. picking up the pieces of a broken trust and mending it back, one step at a time, rebuilding trust, and overcoming shame. Love is a powerful medium, and it was felt throughout the podcast. Dj Envy stood out. It was his moments and the questions he asked that carried the weight and eventual success of this episode. Special praise to the Hillsong couple for not giving up on your marriage in the toughest moments. This will inspire others to just come clean and face their shortcomings. 2024 is the coming out year. The challenge to drop egos and lay on all the table and rebuild from the ashes. Waiting for the next great reveal.
Testimony is necessary and leadership is necessary. Some people need to be able to see and learn from both of these forms of teaching and guidance.
🚩 For anyone who is falling for this man’s act…
1. Narcissists don’t change; they only change their tactics to get more supply. 2. Healthy marriages do have ups and downs, but they shouldn’t involve zippers. 3. A person’s love shouldn’t be measured by how much pain from their partner they’re willing to endure 4. Cheating is a choice and Carl made it repeatedly 5. If you can’t or won’t practice what you preach, stay out of the pulpit.
Let’s not normalize pastors failing to meet the basic standards of their religion while calling out others supposed “sins.”
Well Carl is not a Pastor by any biblical standard. He was just a caregiver of the Hillsong brand which is not a church. Why? Because they don't preach the Gospel of God about Jesus. They just extended their business from Australia to new york. It's all about the money.
You are 100 percent right.
Laura is the bomb. Love her honesty. Always did like Carl. God can still use him. I believe things will only get better.
I just really like these two. They both have incredible insight. God bless them!
I’m glad they were able to work it out. I truly hoped that he would be able to do the work and find redemption and it seems genuine. I hope that they can continue to move forward successfully.
My respect for these wonderful people is sooo real. Thank God for people like Carl and Laura.
You don't need to have the title of Pastor to be a blessing to those around you. Keep doing the Lord's work Laura and Carl.
God is a god of second chances. Thank you for sharing your story, you have no idea how many marriages you are helping by being vulnerable and so transparent.
Love love love this family … ain’t nothing changed, all is love !!! Thank you for this !!!
The raw honesty and humility. They are more powerful influencers for Jesus now than ever before. As you come before the Lord in transparency you will be transformed from glory to glory, goodness to goodness. Respect for your accountability to God Carl, in awe of your strength and goodness Laura you are inspirational. Much love for you all ❤️🙏🏻🔥
Despite whatever mistakes he had done in the past ....
Appreciate Pastor Carl Lentz and his Wife for their radical Passion Serving Hillsong Church and have inspired so many people to Christ ❤❤❤❤❤
Redemption at its best 🙏⛪️🙏
So awesome you guys had them on. I respectfully appreciate that they are so open and transparent about their Journey. It's very rare. 💎🗽
This couple is still healing, it takes time.
Why would you go share your intimate life on this woke platform?
No thanks!
Not everything needs to be shared in front of the whole world!
I am glad he made the distinction about how a pastor is supposed to live his life in a different way than others as outlined in 1 Timothy 3:1-7. The standard is much higher.
He didn't meet that standard.
@RecalledtoLife He's aware of that and so am I.
@@virtuallyyours7851 Just wait. He'll be back in the pulpit as a pastor.
@@RecalledtoLife I'm sure he will.
I don’t understand why people think pastors are infallible. We all make mistakes. Fortunately for some of us our errors and sins are not on a public stage. I wish Mr. and Mrs. Lentz all the best life has to offer. May Christ operate in their lives so that their healing ministry help marriages everywhere.
Because too many people don't take responsibility for their gullibility, infantile trust of authority, and any participation in a Cult of Personality. Pastor-Idols are something humans are vulnerable to, and there are enough wolves in sheep's clothing who know darn well how to exploit such immaturity.
I love this man and his wife is a G! Respect to that woman of God.
You throw the word love around like that?
@@therealcolorguy not at all.
Love you and respect you pastor carl most important thing about everything is that GOD his already forgive you...pray that you and your family heal from everything and get back to doing GOD'S work soon....
I knew a little about them before. I heard a little about this scandal not for me to judge. However I really enjoyed this interview I feel like he spoke truth and Laura I love her honesty, all she wanted to do was protect her children and those others wouldn’t now look how they’ve fallen, very truthful and honest answer!!
God’s grace and mercy is AWESOME! I thank God every day that he is God and not man, because the grace and mercy would come with a cause and condemnation.
We were all born into sin which means we all have the capacity within us to made bad decisions. It is ONLY by God's goodness and his grace that we are able to make good decisions, so we have to consider this when we start passing judgement towards others. We have no right to do so. This does not mean that people should not be held accountable for their poor choices, but Jesus literally died so that we would not have to live in regret for our past mistakes. Happy to see this couple doing the work and getting back to a happy space!
Your mistakes do not define you ❤❤ So proud of them and May God continue to protect and guide them
Praying for restored relationships. 🙏🏻
God bless you, Carl and Laura ❤
Truly hoping for full restoration!! We all fall short of the glory of God, I pray for Grace and Mercy and that the latter would truly be greater!!
shout out to Laura❤🔥, what a WOMAN!
Carl and Laura are as real as it gets.
He was honest with himself and Laura by admitting that he only confessed because he got caught and it was going to come out publicly. At least he was honest in that. I admire Laura for being there for him. That takes some doing.
I’m Soo glad his wife was honest 🙌🏻
I’ll always respect this brother..#regardless
Such a good episode and I’m so happy to see them thriving in this next season for them. Loved the convo!
Praying the family total and absolute healing. ❤
Imagine being a former pastor and Christian and being on a show with a person who calls himself a “god” and the other who goes by the name “envy,” and there is literally nothing different between your life and theirs.
When Carl was asked who he wished he could have gone to for help; referenced Charlemagne the False God’s book!
Jesus said to let our light shine, not blend in. I am thankful for Carl’s restoration and Laura’s faith to stick it out. But there was literally nothing in this conversation that gave explicit glory to God through Jesus Christ (repentance, sin, heaven, hell, was never touched). Carl talks like the world, acts like the world, and the world loves him as their own.
Jesus said in Luke 6:26, “Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.”
I see what you're saying
You are what’s wrong with how people perceive Christianity. Instead of speaking on the pure openness and beauty of this man’s healing journey and faith, you would rather criticize semantics. Jesus wasn’t petty and judgmental…so who are you really following.
@@Truthteller38 Sadly, you’re going to be really surprised when you read Revelation and see who Jesus actually is. Likewise, you failed to note that I celebrated both Carl and his wife. I just added the fact that he came with no Word or gospel and had 100% agreement and great vibes with two obvious sinners.
Jesus loves you as you are but too much to let you stay that way. Carl and his wife are loved by the world because the world is just like them. The world loves messed up people, because they are just as messed up. However, Jesus told us to be holy and have a moral difference that shines light into their darkness and exposes their deeds of darkness.
I leave with some words of Jesus you might not have read yet--
Revelation 3:16, “So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth.”
Revelation 3:3, “Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.”
Revelation 2:20-23, “20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.”
@@Truthteller38 You sound pretty judgmental yourself. lol
@@RecalledtoLife typical response when hypocrisy is called out. Do better.
When people fall, leaders are there to support. When leaders fall, people scatter 😂
Good for Laura, the kids, and this guy for focusing on their healing and restoration instead of fighting a battle that distracted them from it.
Leaders?? 😂😂😂
They all about themselves. They are just good public speakers.
Wow what an incredible interview and what a humbling attitude - thank you
If the church leaders were as authentic as this, people everywhere would flock to Jesus!!
Question i would have asked him. ✝️ " could u have taken what u did - if it was the other way? if your wife cheated the same way could u stay like she did?
Good point. We all always make the sacrifices and it’s not reciprocated most times.
Exactly 💯
You know the answer to that
Inspiring! Finally, the church is getting REAL
MAAAAAADD respect and love to Laura and Carl man.