16 Year Old BJJ Pat Shahgholi Likes To Break People
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- In this clip, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza talk about Mason's upcoming opponent 16 Year Old Pat Shahgholi who is notorious for taking limbs from opponents.
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They're going so soft on him, he ripped the heelhook on a teammate in an inhouse tournament after the guy vocally and physically tapped like five times. He just ripped it harder until everything tore. I'm not watching another match of his, he should be barred from competing for that shit.
Ona fucking teammate is insane
I'm probably a poor competitor but I rather lose than permanently injure someone or be injured.
You're not a competitor. You're a house boy.
@@alexanderdoorknocker ok tough guy
@@alexanderdoorknocker Wowee! Momma didn't raise no bitch huh?
@@alexanderdoorknocker mad how loads of black belts think this opinion is retarded
@@nickbarnes8279 Wanna be Black belts that don't compete. Black belts that are really PURPLE Belts at best..... Black belts that got their belts HANDED to them by garbage instructors. The solution is that you need to TAP FASTER. When you compete against a real expert you better TAP FAST. You weaklings don't understand high level BJJ, you just sit there with popcorn and beer and complain about what experts do. Chump.
Holy shit the soft ball responses in this clip are insulting. This kid rips submissions with intent to break limbs on purpose, and you guys are excusing him as just "being a 16 year old kid"? Guys, are we being serious right now? Can we grow a backbone and call it what it is? He should be shunned and shammed. This is unacceptable. He should be suspended for these actions.
Yeah seems crazy that he is allowed to compete
@@jordanstark2454agree. In MMA, a sport where you're allowed to demolish someone's nose with the heel of your foot, this guy would be banned from competition. He's obviously sadistic
@@bradbradford8576 It's not MMA though is it
@@TheGeehanlolShowWe can turn it into mma real quick though. 😁
Bro fr, they’re acting like being 16 is like ur a fucking toddler or some shit, when you 16 you can be trusted to drive a car by yourself but not understand the consequences of ripping someones knees apart?
He's going to run into a better guy that can do that to him and go there because everyone know what is at stake when you roll with him. And then he'll understand why everyone told him to chill tf out.
you warned him
He did the other day his name is Mason Fowler..
A bunch of SOFT dudes up in here.... I'd love to beat up on you guys and hear you complain LOL.
He will never get to that level. Doing heel hooks on middle aged dudes who don't know them is woooooooooorlds away from real competition.
A better guy isn't the issue. It's just common knowledge that submission without injury is what people look for. So all it takes is a real shit person to play on his level. One injury on him will make him think twice.
A classic psychopath. No remorse. NO emotion. Thats BS about growing out of it. Wake up guys
One guy that can rip submissions and take everyone's limbs home is gordon ryan and he applies controlled pressure doesn't beed to rip people's knees apart. Eddie needs to have a chat with this young man
Sadly Eddie and co. seem all to happy to make bank off this kid for all the wrong reasons
@@foobar123-f2ya chat about what? Finishing submissions in competition? I haven’t heard one competitor complain about his finishes just hating ass dudes online. Like what are we even saying here , this was all in EBI one of the biggest competitions in grappling. Stop trying to make jiu jitsu soft
@@TheLencho ive literally have seen so many clips of people saying that they dont like it, is he wrong for doing it no but so many people dont like it lmao, difference in soft and the fact he breaks everyone, gordon ryan when he went on his first big streak only injured 2 people and they wouldnt tap
@@chrollo4591 who’s people ? Are these guys he’s competed against? mason fowler said he does the same thing when finishing submissions
@@TheLencho you got a discord where i can send you videos and it's not the fact that he does it, but nobody should go into a comp wanting to purposely end people, there are clips of him tapping people and hes still cranking thats where its wrong,
If poping my bones is on the table... Im not up for the sport... and I cant comprehend how this is concidered normal... If I were in the shoes of the injured fighter I would have my revenge somehow someway
Shagholi better hope someone doesn't break him before they change the rules.
You are correct the sport is not for you, but as a hobby it would be fine for you
Lethal revenge
Sportsmanship and respect seem to be part of BJJ, so trying to intentionally injure the opponent seems like not the best decision.
What goes around comes around.
Say what you will about Gordon Ryan (and there's a lot) but he has always given people the opportunity to tap and never applied submissions with more horsepower than needed.
Mason did a nice job maintaining control and finishing
This is my #1 reason I prefer not to compete and only train at the gym
Never know who you’ll come up against
Mason just made that kid look like he didn't even know Jiu Jitsu.
Facts
Someone will get him.
Mason submitted him with an arm bar
I’m glad Mason beat this guy and gave him some humble soup while also displaying great sportsmanship. Hopefully with good examples like this, young athletes like Pat will develop a better understanding. We need more conversations like this one!
yes
Some people see kindness as a weakness can’t go about it that way with everybody
That is more of a style for if you were in an actual fight. You can't control the momentum and final point of submission the way he rolls. BJJ isn't geared for malicious damage. While I don't think it's right, I do think he will go far in competition if some doesn't disassemble him first.
I have a feeling Mason is going to humble him.
This was posted after the tournament, Mason won the whole thing
He did just that.
For anyone who wants to know how this turned out, expand my comment
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Mason arm-barred the 16 yr old in about 5 mins. It looked like a grown man "manhandling" a child, which essentially it was. Mason immediately went North-South and controlled him there until he set up the arm bar. I don't think the kid even touched Mason's leg. Also, Mason went on to beat 2/3 other ppl and win the tournament that night and he's 25k richer.
Hahaha of course that's the outcome. I have a pet peeve for prodigious leg lockers who also don't know bjj.
@aplus1080 Same, Pat is skilled ofc but he needs to learn good sportsmanship and how to control his submissions, especially that heel hook. The whole point of bjj is to sub the guy and get the tap, not crank as hard as you can and break something or just flat out end someone’s career.
There is a reason why Jigoro Kano banned that back in the 1920's.
This guy is a class act
He's on the fast track to being the next Palhares lol
agree
So the kid gets a big name. He goes to Brazil to compete and hurts someone in Brazil. Everybody knows how this plays out.
Bro the party is over here in the USA. Who the heck wants to go to brazil???? BTW you sound afraid of your own shadow.
He would get his ass beat by getting jumped, rightfully so.
@alexvega FBA how do I sound afraid? I work for a living someone rips my knee out or brakes my arm there is real life repercussions to that. That makes me afraid? Your a joke dude.
@@alexanderdoorknocker why are you so insecure?
@@ILmachiner In a competitive setting you need to TAP FAST at Black Belt Level or at ANY level.
Somebody needs to ruin Pat’s knee so he can see the damage he’s doing to others. Otherwise he’s just going to keep doing it, how many body’s does he have to ruin until he realises
Do they have mismatched opponents in these competitions? Could an inexperienced hobbyist in their first tournament go up against a leg breaker?
nope
Anyone who has to permanently damage someone else to win didn't win. But the other guy has to walk away the loser and has to have a worse life. I think the thing to do is for everyone who goes up against him to refuse, just walk away, make it so he just *can't* fight... until he runs into someone who is a; better and b; willing to show him what hes doing to others
that kid is gonna have some debilitating injuries coming is way once he faces someone better if he does not change. people remember
The fact that he's 16 doesn't factor in. He knows full well what he is doing and you can argue, enjoys it, as Mason pointed out. It is clear when he does injure his opponents he does not care about it at all afterwards. Somebody needs to give him the same treatments. Fastest way for him to understand better why that's not acceptable.
Talented is a stretch. He rips leg submissions in a way that not only gives time to tap but he actually lets go before the tap knowing he has torn or broken the leg then gets up and celebrates.
great podcast
Personally I hate that he does that... but it doesn't seem to be against the rules, no one seems to want to penalize the guy for it, so I guess he will continue to get away with that until the shoe is on the other foot. He gets up and celebrates it like he has zero remorse for it, which is a shame, seems pretty sociopathic if you ask me. Not really the type of competitor that I'd be ok with kids looking up to that they can base their game off of, hopefully he doesn't influence any other young competitors to behave in such a way.
I think hes just insecure because hes fat
If you knock someone out, it is what it is, you’re throwing shots and sometimes they connect in just the right place. But if you’re gonna tip someone’s knee ligaments out, how can you live with yourself knowing you’ve purposefully crippled someone like that
Once, could happen. But after multiple times, and show no care or remorse coming off the sub, that’s a bad apple.
Being 16 in grappling against 30 year olds isn't a disadvantage. Your Test levels at 16 are through the roof. You have less responsibilities. What does all of this mean? You can train more, train harder, and recover faster. Your brain is also more adept at soaking up knowledge at 16.
and less injuries too, which he clearly hasn't had a serious one yet
look at the way that kid is built and tell me his test levels are through the roof
masters of technique have control
Facts.
Repeat offenders should definitely get suspension from competition. There's a reason why small joint manipulation isn't allowed. People need to remember that these are matches, not fights. If breaking a limb is a perfectly legitimate way of ending a match, why can't I break two or three of my opponent's fingers to end it nice and quick?
Lmfao heel/ankle is the same as fingers????😂
Agreed. Yet instead of discouraging him, promoters use the kid as a cash cow to get views. It's disgusting. He's not even good, but he's got a name now for all the wrong reasons
Take it you never rolled before have you?
lol look at the box behind his head
the art of jiu jitsu is about control. if you are not even able to hold it for a couple of seconds then it is questionable how good you are at jiu jitsu.
True.
Also, Legs arent that hard to "break" as they arent supposed to naturally twist at the knee. People tear their acls in non contact sports too. People shouldnt be proud about "breaking" legs.
Okay...his next competitor should take Pat down with a guillotine from standing and just fall...attack the submission without control right? 🙄
He may think twice if someone makes him a quadrapeligic.
Not cool to hurt the people who also love the sport as much as you do. Enough to give you a body to compete against at competition. I hope he simmers down because it doesn’t make you better at jiu jitsu or bring new people into the sport. I’ve seen several rolls with Gordon Ryan and the second he has the sub that he just holds it. He doesn’t necessarily go for the break and he always gets the tap. It seems ridiculous to break your opponent off out of spite or thinking it looks cool. I hope he grows up.
BJJ is the stupidest sport to participate in. I would rather get knocked out than have my ACL torn.
This is the issue with modern BJJ gyms. Guys like this kid would've gotten kicked out at the white belt level for these type of actions. Now they train these dudes up and they become very dangerous without the discipline. Leg locks in general are a grey area. I think there has to be a serious conversation about banning them in sport BJJ. Just gives the opponent zero time to tap before you can fuck them up.
You can do exactly the same with kimura, or Armbar. There is the rule that bans cracking submissions, I do not know why it is not enforcet.
Just saw a guy saying he hurt him just in training
Eventually he will get equal treatment. Someone will tear his ish apart. It's the hurt game, and karma is the ref.
Position before submission.
RNC so everyone’s happy.
mason folwer, class act
Y’all are giving the kid way too much leeway, the way he celebrates after intentionally injuring people he knows better and still choose to do it
What does it stop from ppl doing this to him though? Since he does it, and it is trending, now alot of ppl knows
Until he chokes someone and nearly kills them... i watched a vid and he literally pulled and snaps straight away. Not even enough time to move your damn hand to tap....
wow..he can break limbs, great mastery and technique
@@Anti.Vegans because he's 16 and hasn't had to work for a living yet
Indeed did you know once you have a RNC sunk in you can murder your opponent by not letting go? 🤣
@@Anti.Vegans If he is doing that he should be banned from training and competing until he has a change in attitude no matter how good he is.
@@Anti.Vegans if he brags about it he needs to be sued for medical payments for rehabilitation and see how he feels about a $100,000 bill.
@@Anti.Vegans if that's his attitude that's even worse, won't be long before people start giving him back the same, won't be a long career. kid is built like a troll, time to slow the bragging down a little
And Mason made it look easy.
Karma is gonna get the kid. Not today, not tomorrow, not even in a year but one day...
Don't break people's limbs ya animals. It's not worth it and it does not make you look good.
Seems to be the new way. Ruotolo is on this path, too.
Huh? Which one? What’s your evidence?
Only time Routolo's have done something similar was against sambo guys who refused to tap
If I knew I was going up against a dude with this reputation, my plan would be vocally tap very loudly as soon as I felt a solid connection in his attempt. There’s no point in letting the guy break your shit. If he still cranked super hard after the fact that I vocally tapped and everyone heard, I’m getting DQ’d for rocking his jaw. Fair trade I’d say.
Well, if he breaks your leg, you might need to wait a month or two before you can present any risk to anyone, so "rocking his jaw" would hardly be an option.
As soon as he said his name, his eyes widened and he had a knot in his throat😂
The kid is a narcissist and showboats after ruining people’s future. He gets a joy out of it.
Hes nit safe to have around in society. He shows no concern or remorse for the people he purposely hurt.
A 16 year old kid should know better.
This is how you get your life ruined by crossing the wrong person.
Piss poor take.
Well in his rights?….na man that shit is messed up
Good way to ger a target on your back and make everyone have their goal be to wreck you so you can't compete anymore
"There may be a little bit of (a target) but maybe not," Shahgholi said. "I think everybody is just kind of mad, but what do you expect from the jiu jitsu game? People are training to break each other."
What a piece of shit.
Book him Palahares
I hope you take it easy on him 😉
Hahaha. What? That's part of the game. Mma? Knock you out?
And that's the problem with bjj gyms
There isn’t a single post you’ll find of Pat gloating about “breaking / tearing” peoples ligaments. UFC FightPass made that clip go viral.
Agreed, I've never seen your son say that once on social media. This interview seemed decent up until Mason said that he would say that. Or that he "likes" to break people.
U and ur son are some of the nicest people I've met on and off the mats u make me egar to go to training knowing I'm get my ass kicked by one of u but all in good fun it's never a bad time when we roll and I'm never in fear of getting hurt even when drill legs There just LIGHT WEIGHT BABY YE BUDDY
he acts like a psychopath after he does it, kid has issues. Dark triad type issues
He said it was 50k on the line in one comment. He goes for the break. You can tell he doesn’t really care about the money either. He’s been seen doing the same when it’s not some big tourney.
guys too young to think about the morality of his actions
Pat is just one of those violent incels and u can't convince me otherwise
Ban this guy for life
If he regularly injures people he needs to be banned from competition to be forced to pay major fines, its simple as that.
Karma.
He should be banned, obviously he has some sort mental issues.
Back in the days Martial Arts Instructors would actually hurt you to demonstrate their rank and superiority over you. Nowadays there's podcasts that like to complain that people are competing "a little bit too hard". Competitors tell you that "you shouldn't go hard, while they GO HARD!!" They want to shame you into loosing so that they can win........
Where do you train?
Back in what day lol.
@@jamesn3122 1990's
Definition of spazzy white belt with a weight advantage
Grip & rip baby
Stop crying, kid is 16. If you’re scared do tennis.
you sound super tough you must be tough?
Kids the next gordan Ryan and everyone’s scared
@@jackedwin9538 Kid is the next Palhares.
@@jackedwin9538 are you on drugs he is not the next gordon ryan maybe in cake eating lmao
Lot of gordan mixed with the Gracies I see in him. Very promising
It’s impossible for someone with that high triglycerides at that age go too far in any sport.