Craig Jones vs Mason Fowler - 2019 ADCC
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Danaher brooding across the mat like Emperor Palpatine, lol.
“Goooooooooooood”
Ha hah!!
Lol
Wrong -.- the "emperor" stalks the mat like a faint, barely-recognizable version of John, fool -.-
Everytime, so good
I hope Craig can win an ADCC Gold. Really cement his legacy
Same. I think he will in 2021.
just needs to work on his wrestling and he'll get there. I'd like to see him win No gi worlds too.
@@DrewDarce Garry Tonon also will win in ADCC 2021.
Hes still very young. Hell get it eventually
@@DrewDarce 2022*
Craig is one of my all time favorites. Skill and class in equal measure.
Here after watching Craig bend Vinny's leg into oblivion
Yeah, amen!
Literally heard vinny saw, "it's already fucked, keep going " on Uncle Chael's channel there's video of them talking about it after the match.
Peyton Manning and Craig Jones. Both masters of the spiral
This one was so good live. I think this was Craig's first match that day and him jumping for the guillotine was sick
last match of first day no? semi-finals and finals on Sunday
2nd match. Fowler shouldn’t be shooting in like deep
@@Brascobadboy that wasn't it, he did the technique wrong. A single is an inside drive then run the pipe (keep their leg trapped between yours so you control posture/distance and tuck the chin to defend chokes). He did a single and finished like it was a double with his head on the outside to drive and exposed the neck.
I played rugby with Mason at Bullard high in Fresno CA back in 2010. His first year he was easily among the best and had the most savage attitude towards the game and training. Love you mason keep doin your thing
I didn't know Americans play rugby
@@drake1896 there's only hundreds of millions of Americans
I wanna see Jones fight Gordon again. The Match at ebi was pretty badass👍🏽
Minutes 8-12 are so insanely good. That was some awesome grappling.
Easily one of the best matches at adcc
I’m 9 and when I was 7 Mason was my BJJ teacher
He's a beast!
Super display of high level karate there.
Such a high level that strikes aren't even thrown
That was the highest level Ameridote I've ever seen!
One of Craig’s best performances and he has many.
What a BATTLE. That was so good by Fowler. Amazing fight
A very complete looking Craig Jones. I am amazed that Mason did this well to escape all those submissions. Mason had some nice sweeps from half guard and was good at avoiding leg lock positions.
Gotta give it up to Fowler for hanging in there. Had a few real good escapes.
00:07 Danaher got such perect form when sitting down in the chair
He looks like a sim character 🤣
I spent my blue belt days with mason at dethrone, first time I rolled with him he collar dragged me fucking thought I had wings damn near lost my shoulder that day
Haha love the story
How can the commentator says that a general critic for Craig Jones is his games is one dimensional and that now is more diverse? In 2017 in EBI he pull a sick armbar against OConaill, in adcc 2017 he pulled a flying triangle against santana, and took Lo’s back and got a RNC with a beautiful rolling backtake. It has surely expanded and change, but it was never 1D.
Exactly. Glad you noticed.
yes, he was a leg locker, but he started in he gi too! Can win in several ways just not by wrestle fucking just yet ;)
He’s much better overall now than in 2017. Used to just play z-guard and leg entanglements. Now his game is great all around after training with danaher
He used to be known as a triangle guy too.
Impressive performance by Mason Fowler though.
Makes you wonder what would have happened if the ref had given Fowler points for any of those takedowns. Maybe he wouldn't have forced a shot in the closing 30 seconds.
To come in wrestling-heavy and still escape all those attacks down to 30 seconds was impressive indeed. Most wrestling focused guys get choked way quicker.
Shawn Williams is the best commentator ever I learn so much
Great match between them both👏🏽
Beautiful match!
I'm just waiting for match between Nicky and kaynan
Thank you so much ❤️
Crazy uploads recently!
my first month as a white belt i got to spar with mason. was a great experience, dudes a savage!
11:54 Gordon in the background pointing at his homie 😭 We need the squad back together
Gordon’s the reason they broke up
@@unchien2069 Seems like it but we don’t really know the details. Doesn’t seem to be tremendous animosity between them two
Love watching C.J
Great match!
That was amazing
Nice of him to give the little mid-match rub down lol
Fowler has got real potential. He definitely belonged in there with Jones, not something many people in the world can say.
Mason has submitted Craig before in different rule set of course he looked like he belongs
Anyone know of a video of the modified arm in guillotine they talk about?
Craig is a great athlete overall
that inversion at 3:02 is considered a sweep?
i see craig jon... i click
We are simple men then
Good stuff!
Sort of wish they would be required to use rash guards. Slicker they get, harder to submit. Excellent adcc match.
I like that ADCC is the wild west for gear requirements and they don't force anything. That being said I think it's possible the darce at 5:30 could have finished if they had been wearing rash guards with the increased friction. But it's also possible Craig wouldn't have been able to slide it in the first place. Rafa Mendes used to always say he liked going shirtless at ADCC so that he could slide his arm chokes into place more easily.
It's submission wrestling tournament. Real men wrestler shirtless. Hope they don't go Olympic on us, with all those nitty picky requirements.
I like both points. I am just thinking the evolution of mersa, sepsis. Infectious skin disease has developed over time. But both of you present valid statements.
Graig: [goes for a marcelotine]
Commentator: WOW LOOK AT THAT DIESEL SQUEEZEL!!!
Nope, went for the punch
Would've loved to see a replay from at least one other angle but, it's all good though what a crazy match
Yea boI🔥🔥
It’s amazing how after all that technicality it comes down to a take down and a guillotine like a couple of drunk friends 😂
Could do with a slo mo replay to see what he did exactly!
Please put up one of kayne matches
when they pause at about 7 minutes, fowler doesn't have the figure 4 locked up. when they recenter, he starts with it locked
Veterans tournament?
ref literally almost stops the fight to move them to the center when craig has the guillotine locked in lol
I love how Craig used the guillotine to counter the take downs. Then bam uses it to submit Mason.
12:28 Caio Terra in the corner chair!
I miss training 😞
Go train
(4:49-4:52) Love that Mason Fowler belly out defense to a quadpod and circle to avoid the dummy sweep. He covered two meters in two steps and came up in his stance (before walking back over to his opponent).
Yeah too bad he got choked tf out like a lil worm
@@twoOfThemThangs just cause your mom burnt the roast doesn't mean she pissed in the sweet tea
Who are the commentators?
How much is it to get FloGrappling in uk?
It's $150 in America to give you an idea
Jordan Butler thanks. Guessing this is 150 per year, right?
Correct
@@JordanVonStrangle_ Thanks mate. That is not bad tbh. With all the comments in every video saying how expensive it is, I thought it would be a lot more.
good vid
Nice💯💯💯
Will Craig and ryan gordan face each other
Any time there is a position reversal points should be awarded. If a grappler goes from their back to top position they should get the sweep/reversal points. If they are on bottom and end up on top while in a submission then they should only be awarded the points once they clear the submission attempt. The commentators don’t even know if the ref will award points during the match. If they are confused how will the general public follow along?
Unfortunately ADCC started as a rich man's play thing. There was never any desire to have it be something for the general public or even the grappling community to be able to follow. No days the guy running the events is trying to make the rules a little easier to follow and more clear, but he's said that it's very difficult to get changes through. A few competitors that have done the event many times have a deep understanding of the rules, like Andre Galvao, Cobrinha, and some others. in IBJJF the competitors often know the rules better than the refs, but in ADCC it's the other way around. it's also tricky because the ref on the mat makes no decisions re: scoring. All of that is handled by the guys at the mat-side tables.
Andre true. The Sheik created the event for his own personal entertainment. It was never designed to be seen by the public. The real money to be made by the competitors was the opportunity to train him privately if you impressed him. People always get in a hissy fit for me saying it but BJJ/grappling is now falling into to the same pit of despair that we said judo was in. And that is 100% okay. It is fine for it to become a sport as long as we view or correctly as a sport and not a self-defense system.
Bad Wolf MMA good points. I’m with you. I am fine with separating the sport from the self defense applications. I do try to keep real combat in mind though when rolling. I like Chris Haueter’s take on it. “Think the street. Train the sport. Practice the art.” Something like that. Lastly I’d say I do think adcc is probably the best ruleset with some real fighting practicality (along with CJJ) due to the increased focused on wrestling, as well as it being such an open ruleset for allowing slams and all submissions (besides the full Nelson weirdly enough).
Andre you have a very good outlook. I stress the same thing with my students. The sport USED to be a way to get some street application into our training. Not so much anymore. But, that’s cool. Things change. We just have to be honest about the direction things have gone. A lot of sport focused practitioners are a little delusional. ADCC format tries to be a decent meeting ground to allow a variety of grappling arts to cross compete.
This was a really good match. Mason almost scored but Craig stayed on the neck and got up, but there was a takedown I believe mason definitely should’ve got credit for, which would’ve made him less desperate to shoot late. Also the ending was weird with them going close to OB and the ref touching masons back. Not the greatest reffing imo. But great match and awesome performance from both.
I'll give the ref a pass because at ADCC the ref doesn't score any points. The scorer's table put their heads together and score points during the match. And anything that happened before 6:12 cannot be scored due to the no-points period, and any takedown points from Mason after that point have to pin Craig on his back for 3 seconds. Also, sweep and reversal points do not count if the person has a submission hold. It's incredibly difficult to score takedowns at ADCC and the infamous Pena vs Rodolfo match has about a dozen takedowns that don't score but would score in any other ruleset.
Just watched the rematch.. Craig didn't tap
Craig lost to Mason at SUG
12:30 that quiet fist bump from Danaher tho 🤜🤫
I understand why Craig was concerned about oil or whatever. That Darce looked pretty tight
Craig Jones a class act and gentleman
These BJJ guys need to work on their wrestling. I remember Gordon Ryan tapped Keenan with a guillotine off a single leg and now this. It's such a necessary adjustment to keep the head safe when doing a take down. There's a reason why Khabib has never gotten trapped in a guillotine despite performing so many takedowns.
That passing was almost Gordon Ryanesque.
no hate but how does a wrestler have his head on the side in a single leg
WOOOOOWWWWWW..... You can't write this up in a movie script.
U can watch hundreds of hours of submission grappling without ever seeing a submission
Why there weren't points on 9:27?
no hooks possibly
@@michaelmay9236 I don't get it ^^' I was refering to the sweep/takedown. You too?
@@adrianarroyo937 oh i was looking at right when you stamped it not before. But the commentators touched on it possibly being points and I think it was definitely arguable. From personal experience, in any match especially close ones, the ref will usually wait for solidification of control before awarding points. This prevents any high level matches being lost on momentary lapses. So although not necessarily fully by the rule book, ensures a more fluid match. Again just my perspective.
@@michaelmay9236 I chose that time stamp because before I think anybody could argue it was still scramble, and therefore no points were awarded. But since that moment, Craig ends up with his back on the floor for 10 seconds! I was thinking it may have to do with some loop on the rules, maybe? I read the rules a while back and can't remember anything that explain this. But anyway, thanks for the insight! 🙂🙏🏻
3 second turtle zeroes all point attemps. And they count all positions where either of shoulders are of the mat as a turtle. In ADCC if someone passes your guard and then you turtle and give up side control its zero points.
Mason Fowler is a brown belt. Yet his leg lock defence is even better than most black belts
This is not a 1-1 rivalry in my eyes, Craig hasn't been beaten but...
LETS RUN IT BACK A 3rd TIME
Don't think I've seen Craig gulping for air before
I hate that restart. You gotta let the scramble play out.
want to see rematch think mason was brown belt at that time too.
I dont think Mason beats Craig without EBI style OT i feel Mason specializes in OT wins like we have seen in SUG.
Still top level regardless
Danaher is master splinter
Now add punching, knees, elbows and kicks and this would be good to watch
hey, look. if your shorts are so long that you have to pull them up 30 times while you are in the middle of a world class match, you may want to get some shorter shorts, go full Dan Severn or something, there is a reason grapplers wear those.
nice
Mason was robbed points on several sweeps and a takedown. Robbery I tell you.
I agree. Close
Didn't matter in the end though. He got subbed.
phoenixamaranth it changed the whole match though, if he gets points he wouldn’t be going for that take down at the end
@@juicyjmma It doesn't change the whole match. Not only does he not deserve any points as we've already broken down the video and I've shown why he didnt' get points in another thread, but more importantly, he chose to risk it for that takedown when he could have just waited. He was not forced by a lack of points to act then. He had the option of overtime. He lost the match because he CHOSE to do something he didn't have to do. He could have waited for overtime. He didn't deserve any points anywhere, and he didn't get them, then he made a mistake in calculation thinking he could steal the match right before the time was up. Had he waited, things might have gone his way in overtime. HE botched the match, not judges.
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That Craig fella has a body like Brad Pitt in fight club
In these ring outs to reset in the center is waste. Karate combat has a great “ring” thats pit with 45 degree slanted walls. Which allows the action to continue. Would be nice to see jujuitsu tournies like these invest in pit.
I think the ref forgot about points.
Is that a Welsh-American accent from the commentator? Strange combo
I got a pink eye just by watching this clip
They didn’t give Fowler no points
They didn't give Craig sweep points. He totally went from top to bottom. It was a bit of a tumble but Craig came out on top. Around the 3:59 mark on the ADCC clock timer. The sequence starts around there. He rolls him, gets rolled then rolls him again and comes up on top. No points. Totally a sweep unless he somehow did not use his legs or something. I saw a sweep all day.
Even Craig came out and said they should of gave Mason points
@@golddee2040 adcc rules first 5 minutes there are no points. Last 5 minutes points come into play.
What about the ref resetting everytime Craig was in a good position
Craig is a monster
What a match! Nice job by the referee letting that finish on the skirt.
I cant believe Mason beat CJ twice in a row.
damn is that gordon ryan clapping for craig? unbelievable
Whats quite interesting is how Jones was able to use the front headlock position as an effective substitute for Fowler's superior wrestling. Only necessary because of ADCC rules.
Can someone buy Danaher a regular t shirt?
Oh boy i thought it would be a decision
If Danaher isn't an NPC idk what is.
Craig is a phenom, but man, Fowler is pretty incredible, and he's coming back smarter
That darce escape at 5:37 is insultingly easy. Is that a normal move?!
Only if you cheat by using oily hair products like he did
Mason really fed himself to Craig at the end. He must have shot for a takedown like 6+ times while Craig just retreated.
The freaking kangaroo outback announcers were hella bias tho! Lol
one of the commentators talks too much, jumps in to fill any gap right away.
a few seconds of silence now and then would improve analysis quality instead.
Gotta wrestle responsible
But it seemed one dimensional
Great Match! This is how guys no gi BJJ and submission grappling matches and practices are supposed to be, shirtless. A legit guys no gi BJJ and submission grappling matches are done shirtless. This video makes me want to learn no gi BJJ. Rash guards look ridiculous on guys . Also rash guards make guys look weak. Submission grappling and no gi bjj isn't supposed to be cozy. Rash guards and shirts are like sponges and hold the sweat it. Rash guards are not more sanitary than grappling shirtless. Grappling shirtless is more sanitary than grappling in rash guards. All legit Wrestling ,Submission grappling and no gi bjj competitions are done shirtless to show that you're not cheating and your opponent can hurt you by grabbing your clothes. If guys are going to submission grapple and no gi bjj in rash guards then they should treat the rash guards like a gi.
I don’t understand adcc scoring..
Also, the fact that competitors frequently end up right on the mats of another match or smashing into judges tables and whatnot is ridiculous. This is supposed to be the pinnacle event of the sport. Get them some proper space
There's no points for the first half of the match. That might be part of the confusion. Also you do not get points scored on you if you're on top and end up on bottom (either on purpose or getting swept) if you have a submission hold locked. The rules are very weird though. Sweeps and takedowns that land you past the guard get 4 points instead of 2. Those are the only things that give you 4 points. The back position for example gets 3 points instead of 4.
@@WhtMike2006 i think it's becoz it's sposed to be wrestlers nd jiu jitsu athletes
rian dunneleavy that too. It was started in 1998 by the Sheikh and Renzo Gracie as a mixed styles submission grappling tournament. They wanted rules that would help give all styles a shot. That’s why there’s funky rules like 4 points for a throw or takedown that lands you past the guard. They did that to help wrestlers and Judoka
Well there were not points in second period either. That is what confused this guy.
BigB00tySlayer totally understandable. Adcc is definitely confusing. Even to me and I’ve been watching them for 15 years. There’s also not much transparency. That doesn’t help. And it’s an infrequent event so there’s not a lot of practice events or hobbyist events to learn the rules better. A lot of the top guys and girls only get one shot.