"Becky went to live with her father..." *oh no* "Who lived with his new partner..." *oh, never mind* "Who had a son..." *oh no* "Who was 12 years old..." *oh, never mind* "...er than her" *oh no* This is what these stories have done to my brain
@@KenoshaKicker That's why you watch the video first. The purpose of the comment section is for those who watched it to give their thoughts on what they watched.
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 serious, what does that have to do with anything? OP is most likely right. Dude was suffering/struggling with mental health issues, beat and choked his MUCH younger girlfriend (in her teens if you recall) who she herself also had mental health issues and both of them seemingly obsessed with doing vile and unspeakable shit to younger teen girls. In this case, i think its a safe bet that that is exactly how it happened.
Thank you Mike. I didn't realise that you had already made a video about this story before asking you to do one the other day. Becky was my half sister and your video was a really good watch. Whilst remaining respectful to Becky and the ones we still class as family, you were still able to bring a smile to my face and even made me chuckle. This video is one I really thank you for and I know my Dad (whom I share with Becky) is going to appreciate this video as well after watching. Many thanks for 'giving it a goo' 🥰
My condolences to you and your family. Mike is always respectful to the victims in these stories and I'm glad to hear he represented everyone in the proper manor. Although justice may not have been rightfully served with Shauna.
The guy should never get out of prison and his partner is pure evil just look at the smirk on her face when they were reading back her texts. Give her life too.
@@Cyanapanasati those European sentences are better for instances where somebody kills someone in a fight or anything that's"heat of the moment". When it's killing a teenage girl because you want to kill a teenage girl; that's one of the only times the US prison system gets it right.
@@Cyanapanasati oh a lot of UK citizens hate the soft sentences for people like this. It's complicated though. Tbh it may alter after the EU split because often times the EU courts would intercede on behalf of criminals for their rights and whatnot.
@@billymanziel5666 She definitely isn't. She's still inside. Edit: she was supposed to serve 17 yrs...I googled, and she has been released..that's just so unjust and appalling. I had no idea til now. Insane that she should be free after such a short time inside. It was such a terrible crime that even the Judge cried. {He has a Daughter the same age as Becky}
I was a bully and was bullied. I've had my head kicked in plenty of times. a lesson to all bullies out there, your gonna get your head kicked in someday somehow and nobody will give a shit! Rightfully so.
@@BosoxPatsfan603 You're damn right but it's more about getting what you deserve. Unfortunately it doesn't always work out that way. World would be a better place if it did.
He has been disfigured by other inmates who burned his face with boiling butter and sugar. He asked for surgery and it was denied. Also shauna has been beaten twice to almost death. Whilst inside.
When news of Shauna Hoare’s crime circulated the prison, 3 intimates attacked her and beat her so bad that she was in intensive care for 17 days and had to be resuscitated twice......
Where the heck were Shauna's parents when she, a young teenager, started dating a dude in his 20's? I mean, sick things happen when you're being raised by your boyfriend.
@@sarahs2288 Thanks for the information. I was in foster care, and I find myself extra annoyed when foster kids act out. It's like when someone with your name does something super embarrassing. WE DON'T CLAIM HER
I love how you're able to balance the sinister effect that your topics leave in the viewer with your personality and jokes, but you never mock a victim. Your videos are amazing, love you Mike!
Omg I said exactly the same thing to my husband this week when explaining why Mike is my favourite true crime content creator, it's nice to have the cheeky Irish sense of humour to lighten the content a bit but it's always directed at the guilty never the victim.
That is an embedded confession. He wanted her sexually its plainly obvious judging by his "type". If she was not receptive to his advances he would likely take it very hard, being the narc he clearly is. He just didnt like how she treated him with disgust as he was trying to groom her (in my opinion)
Well... he was lying about that part. His only goal was to make her his unwilling sex toy and then murder her. He just made up the rest because he got caught.
As soon as I heard “stepbrother that was twelve years older than her,” my mind jumped to sexually-motivated murder. Maybe it’s a sign I’ve consumed way too much true crime content.
I had really bad social anxiety when I was a teen, Many people thought I was stuck up and self-centered, meanwhile i was just scared of people. So this really hurts me watch.
Oh things are much better. I have gotten over my social anxiety for the most part and don't have these issues at all anymore. I am lucky in that I was able to deal with it.
Yep, that's because you're a normal person with a normal working brain. You actually have empathy and care for other human beings. Something these two sick freaks who did this horrible crime are completely devoid of. RIP Becky.
@The Slap pleasant? somehow you seem to use the word "pleasant" in the wrong context here. A took ache isn't pleasant , falling from your bicycle isn't pleasant, having a sun burn isnt pleasant.. But cutting someone into pieces is on a whole different level then unpleasant buddy. More in the category of, If you can actually take a saw and grind trough the bones/skin/ligaments of a "not so shortly before" living individual (which undoubtable is insanely hard and requires plenty of effort, thus time to constantly be confronted with the horror of it and what you are doing ) and eventually reach the neck and head of someone while looking at it uuuuuGGgghhhhHHHh (just the idea of it somehow reduces my sanity to that of a goldfish) you are next level bat shit crazy bud. But hey there is all sort of full blown mindless, emotionless, no moral nutcase folks out there. So yeah i hear YOU when you say "not so pleasant" and just happy we we are not related ;)
@The Slap Are you kidding me? Do you know what you said!? prior to my reply!? You blatantly divulged that you could not do away with a body unless you ( in your own words) "much better chance if you divide into sections and dispose of slowly over the course of a couple of days. Inconspicuous like." Soooo my response to that is! Why would you even do something like that?? And in that i try and draw to you a picture of how grotesque your "VERY unpleasant" reply to me was if full detail. But like i said you obviously put some thought into it ( it would not even cross my mind, how to get or even get rid of a body) I hope you are aware of what you said at first, and how nonchalant that sounded to us people, who, where the thought of getting rid of a body wouldn't even cross our minds.
Shawna was aging out of Nathan's sexual preference but Becky was exactly what he wanted. And Shawna would have noted the way he was becoming obsessive about her. Would have recognized it from when she herself was Becky's age. And Shawna feared that she was losing her "man". She was probably way more involved in this killing than she admitted. Had they not been caught, their lives would have mirrored those of other killer couples, many of whom had roughly the same age difference, wife/partner participating willingly in the hunt for the kind of girl she herself used to be: younger. Poor Becky. I doubt she ever did ANYTHING to provoke either half of that couple, aside from merely existing.
@Nuke Ireland Sometimes I wonder if evil people leave something of themselves behind in a place, something just waiting to attach itself to the next person who matches them in terms of malice, cruelty and narcissism. Much as one such person will attach themselves to another out of both common ground and the use they have for them.
@@teslagirl1 Well there's a discernable difference in the smell of human sweat whether it's excreted in fear, during fitness, or fornication. Fibromyalgia is a very common PTSD symptom especially for personality types that have a pathological need for control. So the night sweat emitted from someone white-knuckling his own aggressive impulses and physical manifestations of unaddressed trauma would be a pretty heady blend. Add some fevered rage fapping and a constant almost consuming wash of shame, that house would probably leak misery every time someone boiled water like a smoker in a sauna, the toxins just extruding out the pores. It's not evil but maybe evil's trigger smell, sparking an epigenetic memory in the olfactory bulbs, signaling to someone's more lizard-minded ancestor that the world is back in survival mode and every hominid is out for themselves. Or hurt people hurt and if there's any shred of conscience left in them they're begging for an excuse to rid themselves of the uninstructed pain. P.S. Why did Jared Kushner buy 666 Fifth Ave when it had such a grim financial forecast? Is this the megalomaniacal equivalent of a mid-life crisis Porsche? Well at least the devil's gettin it done in Isreal, should have known it'd take a deities scapegoat yearning to become the prodigal son, to get the middle east shaking hands.
Hard to imagine life between Darren and Angie after this but "Remember that time your son murdered my daughter" would be an unlikely conversation topic.
@@LindaBarham there’s actually an interview with then both showing that they have remained married. Apparently the crime didn’t affect their commitment to each other. Unsure if they are supportive towards Nathan or have disowned him.
Aww when her dad said she was too shy to talk to a bus driver to get a ticket, I just felt so sad for her. Just a shy teenager trying to come into her own to die like this is just awful.
@John Ellis One big reason why I live away from home. My uncle and dad have greatly contributed to my self esteem issues, and resulting depression. It's easier to live away from home, no matter how much they don't like the fact that I only come home every couple of weeks.
Yup anyone directly involved should get the exact same sentence the only thing that should mitigate it is if they turn themselves in and admit it before being caught. Showing remorse before being caught is the only remorse I believe is real rather than remorse that they're going to prison.
Agree. They sort of remind me of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka wannabes. If they'd have gotten away with this one murder I think there would have been so many more considering she was literally looking for girls to please him. I think it's a possibility they'd have gone on to lure young girls to their home, use them then dispose of them. Sick twisted pair. Rip Becky.
@@Serithe I think he was saying the women who *do* commit the same kind of horrific crimes as men generally get lighter sentences. I've never really looked into it so I don't know either way. 🤷🏻♂️
This doesn't even seem like that much of an escalation of behavior for him. He hits adulthood, finds a child, grooms her into a longterm "relationship" (as much as a child can be in a relationship with an adult). That surprisingly works out fine for him all the way until she ages out of childhood, when his fantasies start acting up again. The older his girlfriend gets, the more he wants to move on to the next child.
You can mock me after I died cause I won't really care anymore. Actually I would have exchanged all the bullying in school for that mocking after I died.
I still don't understand how murdering, cutting up, and throwing a body in a shed gets you 33 and 17 years respectively. They killed and cut her up. And for no reason either
@@PrinceMarcusWilliam your sentence and eligibility for parole aren't the same length, you're able to apply for parole shortly before you've served half your sentence.
@@oliveryt7168 Age is not just a number. People can change for better or worse over time. And when it comes to a crime like this age definitely played a major role on both ends.
Interesting that he was 20 something when his girlfriend was 14 and they both later go on to be predators of young teenage girl. Makes me wonder about the effect their relationship had on Shauna since she was at a young age and how the way Nathan treated her and what he did to her could've effected her decision to do this to other girls. Abused to Abuser.
I think she wanted to self destruct. In a weird way, she was killing her own young, innocent self. She was groomed and victimized too. It’s all a shame. The parents should not have ever allowed their grown son so be with a child. They’re to blame as well.
To be fair if you read the book about this, you will learn that when brought Shaunna home his dad was very upset and would not allow him to bring her into the house or be anywhere near the house untill she was older.
@@brendashorten I think Becky was seen as “the other woman” by her and was always resented by him for being “off limits” (since we know he’s a pedo, is incest really unrealistic?)
Someone who is void of compassion, ethics, and decency towards their fellow people. However, they do possess these qualities when it involves their "own" person. These types are in of themselves a paradox.
I also wonder how these personalities don't show one way or another. I mean how the people around them don't see there is a monster living next to them. They don't show any indication, they don't give any clue? I really wonder this.
Many "things" have done this. Ever heard of the profession of a "butcher"? Right. There's where your sausages and stakes come from, my friend. Enjoy your meal.
I’m pretty sure he did one on this case a while ago but it’s not still up. I definitely watched a video about this murder on a similar channel before. They used sleep deprivation on Nathan. He had some disgusting comment about not wanting something about the case to be read. Total narcissist.
@@alaskanwolfmom7196 East coast or North Georgia. Really all southern accents are British accents with a little southern honey in it, lol. But North Georgia sounds just like this, only a little slower.
Hearing that this girl had such crippling social anxiety hit home hard. I was the same, I would only go out with my parents, I'd ask them to get my bus tickets, wouldn't approach tills on my own, and would avoid phone calls or get my parents to call up for appointments for me. I was teased and bullied because I could barely function on my own, which didn't help the matter. Grown out of much of it, but to this day I'm still not a conversationalist. It fucking sucks to have.
I used to be the same, it got a bit better but... I am still very grateful when a friend orders my food in a restaurant. I prefer texting to calling and rarely pick up a call at all. I order everything online except of groceries (yet)...
It’s not something I can understand AT ALL. I’m glad I never had a child who suffers from this because I’d probably be impatient and mean to them. I can hear myself screaming “SHAPE UP! GROW UP!! What the hell is the matter with you??” I guess because I was the opposite. Orphaned by 12 and very precocious and independent.
Yea, I was institutionalized at 14 for panic attacks, general anxiety disorder, social anxiety and acute depression. I've been on meds ever since. It's really helped a LOT.
Life in prison is many times not life in prison in these so called civilized nations so what is needed is the death penalty. The religious nuts need to stop protesting against it. I was religious but had enough common sense to know these people need to be rid of so the world is a better place possibly. Heck I am tired of drunk drivers getting away with killing people too. If you know what you did is wrong then you should suffer the ultimate consequence of that. These people here knew what they did was wrong.
@@DeViLzzz2006 I find in the US it's normally people that aren't religious that are against the death penalty. I go back and forth on the death penalty - I think for certain horrendous crimes then ya I want that person to suffer and die, but is that just letting my emotions decide? At the same time, who are we to decide who lives and who dies? Not to mention the number of innocent people that have been put to death on false charges - how many innocent lives are worth it to put some of the guilty to death? Many would say even the loss of one innocent life is reason enough to abolish the death penalty. Also, death row inmates cost tax payers far more than inmates charged with life in prison. It's definitely a complicated topic, and not as simple as "you did bad thing, you get death."
Nathan "Obviously I wanted to teach her a lesson, and obviously I saw something about scaring her on the telly, and obviously I accidentally strangled her" Obviously Nathan is a psychopath!
I loved that part too....how in the hell do you accidentally strangle someone... pushing them and they die or hitting them and they die, would be accidental but how do you accidentally strangle someone
Obviously, indeed! Even if he hadn’t planned on killing her, the “lesson” he wanted to teach was undoubtedly that he would hurt her if she didn’t comply with his demands. Classic sexual predator. If he ever gets out, he’ll do it again.
I went to school with Becky & I remember when this happened the police searched through the whole neighbourhoods bin, including mine. It was a horrid event & only recently learned the truth as I was too young to understand at the time. Rest In Peace Becky ❤️
@@baconbeatles2790 Why should she,can't bring Becky back anyw.Such a sad case,Becky didn't desverve any of this.And from her own "family"Worse thing about being a mother is the worrying part.BTW I assume the chance of someone who knew her/who she was, already has, or will be watching this is pretty high.I didn't know this girl at all, but she seemed like a sweet,likable girl.May she rest easy & peacefully 🌹🕊️🍃🌠🧚🏼♀️
@@baconbeatles2790 can you prove you are not an idiot? What an asinine comment. It’s common knowledge that police will search garbage bins, dumpsters, dumps etc.
Why do people feel like anyone has to prove something to them. It's like a case of inflated identity. Anyone that thinks they deserve the time of everyone to show proof to them has an ego a mile long.
I'm from England and this was one of the most incredibly sad cases I've ever seen. And remember it well when it was being reported in our media. It was hard reading the facts of the case back then and just as difficult now. Poor Poor girl.
The sadness of that judge on 22:27 hit me hard. The anguish on his face. Really illustrates very clearly the effect individuals actions can have on a community.
that really gave me the chills, on all the interviews you see her smirking and smiling most likely at the same time re-living everything in hear head and feeling satisfied
It’s disgusting how women commenters want to make Shawna a victim because he was supposedly abusive. Why do my fellow women talk about how strong we are (which we are), how capable we are (which we are), but then we also apparently can’t use our brains to know right from wrong when a 🍆 is involved? Nonsense. She’s just as evil as he is and should have gotten the same as Nathan.
She did not do her GCSEs in school so she came to my company to do foundation work and courses and I was her maths teacher. She was a very bright young lady and now she is the brightest star in the sky. I do miss Becky a lot as we got on really well, we would have chats outside of classes and sat down to have a coffee together. We did become friends ( I was a 22 year old maths teacher at the time for foundational work. It was very upsetting not seeing Becky in my classroom after she passed away and I miss our everyday coffee chats in break times, but I am sure that she is in a much better place now. We all miss you Becky. Lots of love, Katie xxxxxx
Nooooo waaaaaaay. You guys saw the interview. She *very clearly* stated she had nothing to do with it. Just look how hard she was thinking when they asked her if she knew anything about it! Way too genuine to be lying.
Whenever someone says they "accidentally" strangled someone, I always roll my eyes cause it takes AT LEAST 3 minutes of cutting off the air to kill someone so how do u "accidentally" strangle someone for 3 minutes?? 3 minutes is actually longer than it seems like it is. I'll never believe someone that says they "accidentally" strangled someone.
@@reignman30 lol no I just know about the human body. If u watch like the BTK serial killer talk in court, he said there were multiple times where he would strangle someone and think they were dead, go to the next person in the house, then he would see that the other person woke up. He's not the only one that has said stuff like that. So yeah, it takes way longer than u would think to strangle someone to death.
I remember watching this case by another True Crime creator, that monster of a step brother put Becky through hell all the time and when you read into what was all said and done throughout the years there is no doubt nobody could see that he had serious issues but also had a very strong "distaste" for Becky that went beyond a "brother/sister type relationship" so it doesn't surprise me how he tried to trash her character. I just feel like there were signs that parents would be able to notice. I feel for her parents and I hope Becky is at peace, her light should still be here. 👼 Another great and put together video Mike 😊 currently going through and watching all video's.
It reminds me of that case in Canada where a woman named Karla Homolka and her boyfriend kidnapped her own sister among other girls and tortured her to death. She got way less time than he did, only 12 years, got out and has a family and children. She has the nerve to complain about being "harrassed." The system is incredibly soft on women.
What they don’t tell you in this video is, her and her older brother were in foster care for a bit. This caused her anxiety. Also she was super attached to her step mom and then she the stepmom was diagnosed with MS and only recently getting over being blind for a short time during an attack. This is when her son, the stepmoms son, kills her Becky.
It's sick that the liberals think age is also fluid. A man can be a woman, a 20 year old can be a 14 year old... if they just believe hard enough, that's what they are.... very sick.
I remember this case. Really upset by it. Becky's friends said that she was afraid of her stepbrother and that he used to say terrible things to her. What bothered me, and still does when I think about her, is how come the 'family' did not notice. The stepmother just looked down in the televised pleading by the father. Where was her biological mother? That poor girl suffered bullying etc... Some cases really get to you, and this one get to me. There is a history here.
I reckon he was abusing from very young. To have eating disorders and anxiety and fear of him would certainly produce that. Also he was driving around 12 year olds. The bloke was a nonce
I've asked you to cover this for like a year now, because the case just haunted me so much and I wanted to know what you thouhgt of it. Thank you, Mike.
@@TapDancerDood What was the need in saying this? She was a young girl and what happened to her was awful. Keep ur religion out of this- of course she is at peace.
I'm having trouble watching this video. It strongly resonates with me. It's such a sad and tragic tale. I feel heartbroken about Becky and those who loved her and the future she was robbed of. She deserved so much. I can't wrap my mind around how unfair life is and that such beautiful people are hurt so badly and never get to heal and shine.
But as we are living in the age of the internet....her sentence is life. In fact.... she'll be more miserable outside the structured "society" of prison than in civvy street. Even for the most mundane jobs you need a DBS check. Her life is over...
This story angers me to tears. This beautiful young girl got a really shitty, raw deal in her short life. She suffered with social anxiety and poor body image early on thanks to her own crappy "half" relative & still continued being a kind person, looking to move on and upwards in her life. Hate is so strong in people, hate and jealousy - the girlfriend of Nathan was clearly jealous of Becky and deserves the same punishment. If a person can be this sick and twisted at such a young age, without intense rehabilitation this person stands zero chance of ever becoming a productive, respectable member of society.
@@haji818721 Why would Shauna want to be with that nob she was with at thirteen? Clearly, she had some serious self-esteem issues. That's why she was jealous of Becky. It doesn't have to make sense to sensible people to be true.
There is a book on this case written by the father of Becky Watts, Darren Galsworthy. For anyone interested, the book is called 'The Evil Within'. It is a very good read and goes into a lot of detail.
Social anxiety. My permanent companion. I have medication to go food shopping. Can't leave the house, sometimes not even the room without the pills. It sucks. It is hard to deal with and tragically it will never go away. I do get disability payments thanks to the official diagnosis by psychologists. I will never go missing, since I will always be in my place. We that suffer from this are not capable to leave into the unknown.
I have suffered social anxiety my whole life… most people will never come close to understanding what it feels like inside.. I hope it gets better for you.. I have learned personally for me it’s how I was born, I can’t change it.. I just try to put my faith in God..
it's called agoraphobia and I suffer too. I take meds too but rarely travel alone. It starts to get better hun when you're older because then you just don't give a Shiite about what's going on. I'm 54 now and it's getting better. I hope you will one day too. 😘
I have social anxiety too but it really is mind over matter, my brain goes a million miles a minute in public places and I feel anxiety throughout my whole body, but you have to just push through it, you can’t live your life like that, you only get 1 and you don’t know when it’s going to end. I recommend ashwaghanda, absolutely destroys my anxiety and doesn’t have all the negatives of hardcore pharmaceuticals. Also meditation. The best thing I can do is workout hard so my testosterone is high, then cold shower and my brain is entirely present/ no anxious thoughts. Also no fap helped me a lot, seemed like a lot of my symptoms were from watching porn. Just don’t give up and listen to a diagnose, there’s so much you can change and do to feel better
Shauna can't keep the shit-eating grin off her face. Not even a little bit. There isn't a moment in any clip where not even a ghost of that smile is absent. She's incredibly pleased with herself every time her involvement with Becky is mentioned, questioned or insinuated, regardless of what's happening to Shauna herself.
His reason for kidnapping Becky is 'because she's mean to her parents and so to teach her a lesson' I kid you not. - That's the stupidest and flimsiest reason I've ever heard! It's almost like he's deliberately being a smartass.
Sickening. I met Becky's brother on Rust like a week before she was found. He asked me to keep an eye and ear out for her, even though I lived many miles away from where this took place.
When you have binged all of Mike’s videos, you just have to go back through and find ones you have pretty much forgotten. There’s replay value in your shit, Mike. Thanks for your effort in these videos. I can get enough of these stories. You’re awesome, man! Once, twice, 🌲 times a badass!
That's exactly what I'm doing now! Frantically searching through his vids looking for the one without the dreaded "you've seen it" red bar underneath! Haha
The poor parents her son killed his daughter, how do you get past that in a marriage? Sick people are hiding in all sorts of places and Becky didn't deserve this at all RIP Becky, I hope her dad and Step mum could find peace
People brush anxiety disorders under the rug and act as if being so anxious about social situations to the point of puking is just quirky shyness. Anxiety has controlled my entire life since I was six years old. This poor girl didn’t deserve any of this. She deserved a life, she deserved those little victory’s in the path to recovery from her Eating disorder and anxiety.
I have suffered from severe social anxiety my whole life.. people have no idea how hard it is to live like that, how it feels inside and the domino effect of problems it causes for yourself.. I hope it gets better for you.. ❤️
@@stephaniebach__12-24 such severe social anxiety that I usually like to be by myself at all time I fear of being judged when I’m around others. My aunt is going to die of cancer in a few days and I need to leave Florida and go all the way to Michigan so I can basically watch her die and than come all the way back, why would I want to leave at all. This does not interest me.
@@yangsrealm2536 Well I hope it gets better for you.. I lost a few family recently too and funerals are very hard to go to with social anxiety… people just need to understand that everyone takes things in their own way and we all deal with things differently and people have no right to judge
It’s just sad a little girl was murdered and not allowed to grow up. She had a rough life, my hearts goes out to her father and everyone who loved her. Just sad 😭
I'm trying to tell people that this is exactly what the leading forces of our realm feed off of injustice and innocence blood shed. The rulers of the matrix or whatever spell they've casted upon us is relentless, brutal, and goes against everything it means to be human.
@@SubliminalMessagesTV hooahh a fellow who knows thier stuff! Yes the world has become very soft, even in England, the police are doing atrocious things, the cops in the usa would be jealous...
Yes it's true ! they also have something else in common, those young couples were still living in the parents' home and it is not healthy at all. The psychiatrists say that young couples must leave the parents home and find a place of their own. Generally it doesn't end up in rapes and murders but it is often a source of problems.
@@myunknownland9272 melted butter is basically oil. Also I doubt they use real butter in prison, it's probably margarine which when melted is literally oil
fun fact: after being attacked with the boiling butter, his face and other parts of his body suffered quite horrific burns. he asked for plastic surgery, which would of been paid for by tax payers money on the NHS, this was swiftly refused.
Becky was such a pretty girl. It's such a shame that she didn't seem to know it and also that there are people, even her own family, that would harm her. Well, that goes for all the cases where these monsters think they have some kind of excuse to cause harm to others.
I remember this case. I was about the same age as Becky living in Bristol when it happened and literally no teenage girl was allowed out the house in fear of a killer on the loose snatching girls up.
I know it shouldn't make a difference, but Becky was so so pretty. You can see her growing into her beauty. I bet she would have been absolutely stunning as an adult. Such a shame.
“Hey you and welcome!” Those words are the highlight of my weeks as the coronavirus continues. Thank you for the quality videos Mike. You earned those subscribers with all your hard work.
Thank you for covering these difficult accounts that we may have our eyes kept open to the fact that evil lives among us. May we all keep safe and aware. Hard story but needs to be heard. Thank you Mike for keeping the hard, a bit softer for us to take, one bite at a time with a little bit of a plane swoop to make it go down better. We love ya...too, Mike!
I used to live in Bristol and was at the local court to witness a case the day Matthews was taken into custody, a load of the guys awaiting their hearing were calling people they knew were connected to inside the prisons letting them know the guys name and to “have him”.. I hope they did!
@@Flotter-Flo You know, they aren't all of them killers and pedophiles. They're also petty crooks, thieves, people who owed money to the public and others. They are conscious of what they are doing, they steal because otherwise they and their family will starve (for example). So the unwritten law is not as you said "to make them feel better". There are just some lines they don't cross.
The fact that Shawna is talking about Becky in the past tense is a MASSIVE red flag. I'm surprised they didn't call her out on it during that interview.
No. It. Isnt. Why is Everybody bringing this up? Like in many cases... T It's always somebody who will make such claims... It's just language. We live in a world where people talk all kinds of sh1te and don't even know what words mean..
@@oliveryt7168 It's something investigators have seen as a pattern: the people who refer to the person in the past tense - while everyone is still looking for them - tend to be guilty
Just because they didn't immediately throw it in her face doesn't mean they didn't notice. There's a subtle art to good police interrogation. We only saw like 30 seconds of their interrogations. They likely did bring it up.
"Becky went to live with her father..."
*oh no*
"Who lived with his new partner..."
*oh, never mind*
"Who had a son..."
*oh no*
"Who was 12 years old..."
*oh, never mind*
"...er than her"
*oh no*
This is what these stories have done to my brain
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Hahaha right?!
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!
Your living rent free in my brain?
Spot on!
This poor girl had social anxiety and the whole time the threat wasn’t outside the house, it was in the house with her.
that's a good point!
Fucking spoiler alert
@@KenoshaKicker That's why you watch the video first. The purpose of the comment section is for those who watched it to give their thoughts on what they watched.
Who reads a comment section to a crime channel and then complains about spoilers 😂
@@86sineadw plus, it's obviously who was involved by showing their faces and background story
The second he said he didn't like her because she was "self-centered" I *knew* that was psychopath code for "wouldn't have sex with me"
guarantee it.
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 hahah what does that have to do with anything?
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 nah people who want to ban Dr Seuss are the psychos. Control and manipulation.
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 serious, what does that have to do with anything? OP is most likely right. Dude was suffering/struggling with mental health issues, beat and choked his MUCH younger girlfriend (in her teens if you recall) who she herself also had mental health issues and both of them seemingly obsessed with doing vile and unspeakable shit to younger teen girls. In this case, i think its a safe bet that that is exactly how it happened.
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 You weirdo.
Thank you Mike. I didn't realise that you had already made a video about this story before asking you to do one the other day. Becky was my half sister and your video was a really good watch. Whilst remaining respectful to Becky and the ones we still class as family, you were still able to bring a smile to my face and even made me chuckle. This video is one I really thank you for and I know my Dad (whom I share with Becky) is going to appreciate this video as well after watching. Many thanks for 'giving it a goo' 🥰
I’m so sorry for your family.
My condolences to you and your family. Mike is always respectful to the victims in these stories and I'm glad to hear he represented everyone in the proper manor. Although justice may not have been rightfully served with Shauna.
I’m so sorry for your loss. Such a senseless crime. She was a beautiful girl.
sorry for your loss
I am sorry for your loss. Best wishes from Oregon, USA.
Nathan used to tell Becky she was fat when she was suffering from anorexia as a 12 year old and he was 23. Says it all really.
So sad
sarcastically, of course
Epic pimp skills.
Well it seems more like Nathan's teasing drove her to anorexia, at least that's the impression I got.
Yes, 23 yr old’s can be A-holes too.
I think when someone dismembers a body that takes it to a whole other level of evil
Yeah, you gotta be one sick puppy to be able to carry that out.
For real. Good call. I dont understand how someone can just do that.
Unless you’re a medical student or mortician
*desperation*
Especially when they are you're family
The guy should never get out of prison and his partner is pure evil just look at the smirk on her face when they were reading back her texts. Give her life too.
@@Cyanapanasati those European sentences are better for instances where somebody kills someone in a fight or anything that's"heat of the moment".
When it's killing a teenage girl because you want to kill a teenage girl; that's one of the only times the US prison system gets it right.
@@Cyanapanasati You should see in Colombia, look up the monster of Cañaduzales, raped and killed like 20 boys and his sentence was a joke.
@@Cyanapanasati oh a lot of UK citizens hate the soft sentences for people like this. It's complicated though. Tbh it may alter after the EU split because often times the EU courts would intercede on behalf of criminals for their rights and whatnot.
@@IggyTheBalrog The UK isn't EU anymore, so what's stopping them now?
Ms Hoare's smirk said a lot
This is so sad :( The step-brother and his girlfriend should never be released from prison.
She’s already out
@@billymanziel5666 She definitely isn't. She's still inside. Edit: she was supposed to serve 17 yrs...I googled, and she has been released..that's just so unjust and appalling. I had no idea til now. Insane that she should be free after such a short time inside. It was such a terrible crime that even the Judge cried. {He has a Daughter the same age as Becky}
@@billymanziel5666 I thought you were joking with this comment..Til I googled. 😱
@@Oakleaf700 I don’t blame you for not believing it at first, it’s outrageous. A lot of these stories upset me with how little justice gets served.
Poor girl, she seemed like she was getting her life together after the bullying and the anorexia, what a tragedy.
I was a bully and was bullied. I've had my head kicked in plenty of times. a lesson to all bullies out there, your gonna get your head kicked in someday somehow and nobody will give a shit! Rightfully so.
Treat others how you wanna be treated. An eye for an eye
@@SlimeBlueMS what about "bad" people?
@@christopherryan6111 you know what they say there's always someone bigger and badder than you. Every dog has his day
@@BosoxPatsfan603 You're damn right but it's more about getting what you deserve. Unfortunately it doesn't always work out that way. World would be a better place if it did.
She gets 17 years in prison, Becky only got 16 years of life.
He has been disfigured by other inmates who burned his face with boiling butter and sugar. He asked for surgery and it was denied.
Also shauna has been beaten twice to almost death. Whilst inside.
@@puccipuu1797 don’t wanna sound like an asshole but they deserve it
@@puccipuu1797 whatttt
Yeah it’s pretty disgusting. True monsters
17 years for murder! What a joke
When news of Shauna Hoare’s crime circulated the prison, 3 intimates attacked her and beat her so bad that she was in intensive care for 17 days and had to be resuscitated twice......
Nice
You made my night better, thanks :)
Shame she had to be resuscitated
hopefully they finish what they started before she gets out.
Murderers should be listed as DNR...
Where the heck were Shauna's parents when she, a young teenager, started dating a dude in his 20's? I mean, sick things happen when you're being raised by your boyfriend.
I think I read she was in foster care. Her parents were long gone.
@@sarahs2288 Thanks for the information. I was in foster care, and I find myself extra annoyed when foster kids act out. It's like when someone with your name does something super embarrassing. WE DON'T CLAIM HER
I think she was in foster care then went to live with her mom when she was 13. I’m sure that’s what I read in the dad’s book.
Sadly sick things did happen.
@Brandon Stockwell I wasn't lucky. We don't claim her
I love how you're able to balance the sinister effect that your topics leave in the viewer with your personality and jokes, but you never mock a victim. Your videos are amazing, love you Mike!
Mike is hands down my favorite True Crime UA-camr. He is amazing.
I agree! Also, nice pfp :P
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Exactly!!!💙
Omg I said exactly the same thing to my husband this week when explaining why Mike is my favourite true crime content creator, it's nice to have the cheeky Irish sense of humour to lighten the content a bit but it's always directed at the guilty never the victim.
@@libbyscrapper720 ok
Nathan says he wanted to teach Becky to treat people better. Then proceeds to strangle her.
I don't think he ever wanted to teach her anything. He only used that to make himself look "better" I think. Such a sicko.
That is an embedded confession. He wanted her sexually its plainly obvious judging by his "type". If she was not receptive to his advances he would likely take it very hard, being the narc he clearly is. He just didnt like how she treated him with disgust as he was trying to groom her (in my opinion)
Let's not mention him stabbing her 15 times.
Well... he was lying about that part. His only goal was to make her his unwilling sex toy and then murder her. He just made up the rest because he got caught.
@@BunnaySango he
As soon as I heard “stepbrother that was twelve years older than her,” my mind jumped to sexually-motivated murder. Maybe it’s a sign I’ve consumed way too much true crime content.
No. is just common sense. The father was an a/hole
no! Its the way of this twisted world..
That poor girl must have been so terrified.
Or jealousy? The younger child sometimes get more attention
Same!
This is what happens when 2 people with no conscience get together. No one stops the other from doing horrible stuff, they just fuel each other.
I had really bad social anxiety when I was a teen, Many people thought I was stuck up and self-centered, meanwhile i was just scared of people. So this really hurts me watch.
Sorry to hear that
Doesn't matter what people think my friend
I hope you're doing better now. Good luck in life!
Oh things are much better. I have gotten over my social anxiety for the most part and don't have these issues at all anymore. I am lucky in that I was able to deal with it.
I am extremely shy and avoid large social gatherings. I also don’t talk a lot and people mistake that for me being a jerk.
I honestly can't grasp the idea of someone cutting another person into pieces.. it completely blows my mind.
Yeah...you have to be really twisted to do something like that.
Yep, that's because you're a normal person with a normal working brain. You actually have empathy and care for other human beings. Something these two sick freaks who did this horrible crime are completely devoid of. RIP Becky.
Don’t think I could ever sleep again! Horrific!
@The Slap pleasant? somehow you seem to use the word "pleasant" in the wrong context here. A took ache isn't pleasant , falling from your bicycle isn't pleasant, having a sun burn isnt pleasant.. But cutting someone into pieces is on a whole different level then unpleasant buddy. More in the category of, If you can actually take a saw and grind trough the bones/skin/ligaments of a "not so shortly before" living individual (which undoubtable is insanely hard and requires plenty of effort, thus time to constantly be confronted with the horror of it and what you are doing ) and eventually reach the neck and head of someone while looking at it uuuuuGGgghhhhHHHh (just the idea of it somehow reduces my sanity to that of a goldfish) you are next level bat shit crazy bud.
But hey there is all sort of full blown mindless, emotionless, no moral nutcase folks out there. So yeah i hear YOU when you say "not so pleasant" and just happy we we are not related ;)
@The Slap Are you kidding me?
Do you know what you said!? prior to my reply!? You blatantly divulged that you could not do away with a body unless you
( in your own words) "much better chance if you divide into sections and dispose of slowly over the course of a couple of days. Inconspicuous like." Soooo my response to that is!
Why would you even do something like that?? And in that i try and draw to you a picture of how grotesque your "VERY unpleasant" reply to me was if full detail.
But like i said you obviously put some thought into it ( it would not even cross my mind, how to get or even get rid of a body)
I hope you are aware of what you said at first, and how nonchalant that sounded to us people, who, where the thought of getting rid of a body wouldn't even cross our minds.
Shawna was aging out of Nathan's sexual preference but Becky was exactly what he wanted. And Shawna would have noted the way he was becoming obsessive about her. Would have recognized it from when she herself was Becky's age. And Shawna feared that she was losing her "man". She was probably way more involved in this killing than she admitted. Had they not been caught, their lives would have mirrored those of other killer couples, many of whom had roughly the same age difference, wife/partner participating willingly in the hunt for the kind of girl she herself used to be: younger. Poor Becky. I doubt she ever did ANYTHING to provoke either half of that couple, aside from merely existing.
@Nuke Ireland I was thinking about them 2 monsters they used to live across the road from me sick bastards
@Nuke Ireland Sometimes I wonder if evil people leave something of themselves behind in a place, something just waiting to attach itself to the next person who matches them in terms of malice, cruelty and narcissism. Much as one such person will attach themselves to another out of both common ground and the use they have for them.
@@teslagirl1 Well there's a discernable difference in the smell of human sweat whether it's excreted in fear, during fitness, or fornication. Fibromyalgia is a very common PTSD symptom especially for personality types that have a pathological need for control. So the night sweat emitted from someone white-knuckling his own aggressive impulses and physical manifestations of unaddressed trauma would be a pretty heady blend. Add some fevered rage fapping and a constant almost consuming wash of shame, that house would probably leak misery every time someone boiled water like a smoker in a sauna, the toxins just extruding out the pores.
It's not evil but maybe evil's trigger smell, sparking an epigenetic memory in the olfactory bulbs, signaling to someone's more lizard-minded ancestor that the world is back in survival mode and every hominid is out for themselves.
Or hurt people hurt and if there's any shred of conscience left in them they're begging for an excuse to rid themselves of the uninstructed pain.
P.S. Why did Jared Kushner buy 666 Fifth Ave when it had such a grim financial forecast? Is this the megalomaniacal equivalent of a mid-life crisis Porsche? Well at least the devil's gettin it done in Isreal, should have known it'd take a deities scapegoat yearning to become the prodigal son, to get the middle east shaking hands.
@@maebandy wow.. crazy comment.. interesting tho!
@@maebandy 😴
Hard to imagine life between Darren and Angie after this but "Remember that time your son murdered my daughter" would be an unlikely conversation topic.
I feel bad for them... Horrible
I think it would depend on her reaction, if she was one of those mums who swear their kid is innocent it would definitely be over
I bet they didn't remain married
@@LindaBarham there’s actually an interview with then both showing that they have remained married. Apparently the crime didn’t affect their commitment to each other. Unsure if they are supportive towards Nathan or have disowned him.
Aww when her dad said she was too shy to talk to a bus driver to get a ticket, I just felt so sad for her. Just a shy teenager trying to come into her own to die like this is just awful.
it’s so sad that she was bullied in school and she was bullied at home, where she was supposed to be “safe” ):
This makes me feel so sad
And where the parents, especially the mother of the murder....
@John Ellis One big reason why I live away from home. My uncle and dad have greatly contributed to my self esteem issues, and resulting depression.
It's easier to live away from home, no matter how much they don't like the fact that I only come home every couple of weeks.
She should have got as many years as him. She is just as guilty.
Yup anyone directly involved should get the exact same sentence the only thing that should mitigate it is if they turn themselves in and admit it before being caught. Showing remorse before being caught is the only remorse I believe is real rather than remorse that they're going to prison.
Agree. They sort of remind me of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka wannabes. If they'd have gotten away with this one murder I think there would have been so many more considering she was literally looking for girls to please him. I think it's a possibility they'd have gone on to lure young girls to their home, use them then dispose of them. Sick twisted pair. Rip Becky.
Generally women always get lighter sentences than men. it's just the way the world works.
@@JimmyMon666 Well, women don't commit as many horrific crimes as men.
@@Serithe I think he was saying the women who *do* commit the same kind of horrific crimes as men generally get lighter sentences.
I've never really looked into it so I don't know either way. 🤷🏻♂️
This doesn't even seem like that much of an escalation of behavior for him. He hits adulthood, finds a child, grooms her into a longterm "relationship" (as much as a child can be in a relationship with an adult). That surprisingly works out fine for him all the way until she ages out of childhood, when his fantasies start acting up again. The older his girlfriend gets, the more he wants to move on to the next child.
I appreciate that your humor focuses on mocking the criminal murderers and never, ever the victims. also shauna deserves a lot more than 17 years :|
Mainly the absolute stupidity of the murderers too.
Which channels mock 16-year-old, innocent murder victims?
He did kinda, when he said she was there until she wasn’t.
@@katiemary8075 It’s fine to not know what “mocking” means, but you don’t have to publish the fact.
You can mock me after I died cause I won't really care anymore.
Actually I would have exchanged all the bullying in school for that mocking after I died.
I still don't understand how murdering, cutting up, and throwing a body in a shed gets you 33 and 17 years respectively. They killed and cut her up. And for no reason either
She's going to be up for parole in a couple of years.
@@nodiggity9472 served 6 years out of 17... quick math says 11 years isn't a couple
It is because of religious nuts that we have this. Also it is because the people as a whole do not speak up against this.
@@PrinceMarcusWilliam your sentence and eligibility for parole aren't the same length, you're able to apply for parole shortly before you've served half your sentence.
@@DeViLzzz2006 not it isnt
As soon as you said a stepbrother that was 12 years older I knew the general direction this was heading.
I call bs.
Age is just a number.. Of you're a POS, you're a POS. Only a miracle would make you change.
@@oliveryt7168 Age is not just a number. People can change for better or worse over time. And when it comes to a crime like this age definitely played a major role on both ends.
Interesting that he was 20 something when his girlfriend was 14 and they both later go on to be predators of young teenage girl. Makes me wonder about the effect their relationship had on Shauna since she was at a young age and how the way Nathan treated her and what he did to her could've effected her decision to do this to other girls. Abused to Abuser.
I think she wanted to self destruct. In a weird way, she was killing her own young, innocent self. She was groomed and victimized too. It’s all a shame. The parents should not have ever allowed their grown son so be with a child. They’re to blame as well.
To be fair if you read the book about this, you will learn that when brought Shaunna home his dad was very upset and would not allow him to bring her into the house or be anywhere near the house untill she was older.
@@brendashorten I think Becky was seen as “the other woman” by her and was always resented by him for being “off limits” (since we know he’s a pedo, is incest really unrealistic?)
@@redwoodtrail great comment
Can't comprehend how someone can literally cut another person into pieces and walk around like nothing..what kind of "thing" does that
Someone who is void of compassion, ethics, and decency towards their fellow people. However, they do possess these qualities when it involves their "own" person. These types are in of themselves a paradox.
I also wonder how these personalities don't show one way or another. I mean how the people around them don't see there is a monster living next to them. They don't show any indication, they don't give any clue? I really wonder this.
@@burcua631 Its horrifying
Many "things" have done this. Ever heard of the profession of a "butcher"? Right. There's where your sausages and stakes come from, my friend. Enjoy your meal.
@@oliveryt7168 I sure will. Because I don't think of humans when I eat meat. Do you?
we need JCS Criminal Psychology review on the interview.
I’d like this comment again if possible
I’m pretty sure he did one on this case a while ago but it’s not still up. I definitely watched a video about this murder on a similar channel before. They used sleep deprivation on Nathan. He had some disgusting comment about not wanting something about the case to be read. Total narcissist.
I feel like I remember the JCS guy's voice narrating something about the sexual sadism of those two. I think he did make a video and took it down
@@gouchscowl8601 I did it for you. I did know about JCS until your comment. Thank you
If you support JCS on Patreon you can see a very in depth video on this case.
I know this story, those two were so fucked. Her poor dad must be absolutely crushed he loved her so much.
I wish I could understand their English. Englanders always sound like they have marbles in their mouth.
@@robjohnson8861 then you must not be an east coaster 😂
Poor girl such a beauty and she was shy unbelievable!
@@alaskanwolfmom7196 East coast or North Georgia. Really all southern accents are British accents with a little southern honey in it, lol. But North Georgia sounds just like this, only a little slower.
@@robjohnson8861 I live in London and um I don't think it's well nice to say that
Hearing that this girl had such crippling social anxiety hit home hard. I was the same, I would only go out with my parents, I'd ask them to get my bus tickets, wouldn't approach tills on my own, and would avoid phone calls or get my parents to call up for appointments for me. I was teased and bullied because I could barely function on my own, which didn't help the matter.
Grown out of much of it, but to this day I'm still not a conversationalist. It fucking sucks to have.
I used to be the same, it got a bit better but... I am still very grateful when a friend orders my food in a restaurant. I prefer texting to calling and rarely pick up a call at all. I order everything online except of groceries (yet)...
It’s not something I can understand AT ALL. I’m glad I never had a child who suffers from this because I’d probably be impatient and mean to them. I can hear myself screaming “SHAPE UP! GROW UP!! What the hell is the matter with you??” I guess because I was the opposite. Orphaned by 12 and very precocious and independent.
@@ClaireBeatty Please, don’t have children. I feel for them if you do.
@@Johnieboi No worries, I don’t and am way past having any.
Yea, I was institutionalized at 14 for panic attacks, general anxiety disorder, social anxiety and acute depression. I've been on meds ever since. It's really helped a LOT.
Shauna gets 17 years????!!!!?????
Sick
How about Life In Prison??? Did she not willingly take part in this murder?
What an absolute joke.
canada Young offenders act = fresh start clean record once you turn 18.
@@christopheremerson2474 it’s in England
Life in prison is many times not life in prison in these so called civilized nations so what is needed is the death penalty. The religious nuts need to stop protesting against it. I was religious but had enough common sense to know these people need to be rid of so the world is a better place possibly. Heck I am tired of drunk drivers getting away with killing people too. If you know what you did is wrong then you should suffer the ultimate consequence of that. These people here knew what they did was wrong.
@@DeViLzzz2006 in the USA... It's often "anti religious" people that protest the death penalty lol. Funny how it can be totally backwards elsewhere!
@@DeViLzzz2006 I find in the US it's normally people that aren't religious that are against the death penalty. I go back and forth on the death penalty - I think for certain horrendous crimes then ya I want that person to suffer and die, but is that just letting my emotions decide? At the same time, who are we to decide who lives and who dies? Not to mention the number of innocent people that have been put to death on false charges - how many innocent lives are worth it to put some of the guilty to death? Many would say even the loss of one innocent life is reason enough to abolish the death penalty.
Also, death row inmates cost tax payers far more than inmates charged with life in prison.
It's definitely a complicated topic, and not as simple as "you did bad thing, you get death."
Nathan "Obviously I wanted to teach her a lesson, and obviously I saw something about scaring her on the telly, and obviously I accidentally strangled her" Obviously Nathan is a psychopath!
Obviously
Just a prank, bro!
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I loved that part too....how in the hell do you accidentally strangle someone... pushing them and they die or hitting them and they die, would be accidental but how do you accidentally strangle someone
Obviously, indeed! Even if he hadn’t planned on killing her, the “lesson” he wanted to teach was undoubtedly that he would hurt her if she didn’t comply with his demands. Classic sexual predator. If he ever gets out, he’ll do it again.
I went to school with Becky & I remember when this happened the police searched through the whole neighbourhoods bin, including mine. It was a horrid event & only recently learned the truth as I was too young to understand at the time. Rest In Peace Becky ❤️
Can you prove what you're saying?
@@baconbeatles2790 Why should she,can't bring Becky back anyw.Such a sad case,Becky didn't desverve any of this.And from her own "family"Worse thing about being a mother is the worrying part.BTW I assume the chance of someone who knew her/who she was, already has, or will be watching this is pretty high.I didn't know this girl at all, but she seemed like a sweet,likable girl.May she rest easy & peacefully 🌹🕊️🍃🌠🧚🏼♀️
@@baconbeatles2790 can you prove you are not an idiot? What an asinine comment. It’s common knowledge that police will search garbage bins, dumpsters, dumps etc.
Cool story bro.
Why do people feel like anyone has to prove something to them. It's like a case of inflated identity. Anyone that thinks they deserve the time of everyone to show proof to them has an ego a mile long.
I'm from England and this was one of the most incredibly sad cases I've ever seen. And remember it well when it was being reported in our media. It was hard reading the facts of the case back then and just as difficult now. Poor Poor girl.
The smirking of the girlfriend is giving me heart palpitations
Just like Diane Downes who killed her three children. She is still in prison and still says she did nothing.
Pisses me off
@@elizabethhayward570 At least she was charged with murder. This monster got only 17 years for manslaughter!
Kinda makes you want to hurt her, doesn't it? Let's hope her cellmates feel the same.
Only crying bc she got caught.
Thank you for providing such high-quality content every Tuesday and Friday during this strange and lonely time in history. We appreciate you.
I appreciate you watching!
Yes!!!❤
Beautifully said
When Shauna said Becky "was" is huge red flag. She's subconsciously using past tense and she knows more than she's saying.
The sadness of that judge on 22:27 hit me hard. The anguish on his face. Really illustrates very clearly the effect individuals actions can have on a community.
The girlfriend smirking during the interviews is next level psycho material. Not a shred of remorse. She got off so lightly
she was so jealous of Becky.
She’s got Karla homolka vibes, for sure
that really gave me the chills, on all the interviews you see her smirking and smiling most likely at the same time re-living everything in hear head and feeling satisfied
Maaaaad female privilege
It’s disgusting how women commenters want to make Shawna a victim because he was supposedly abusive. Why do my fellow women talk about how strong we are (which we are), how capable we are (which we are), but then we also apparently can’t use our brains to know right from wrong when a 🍆 is involved? Nonsense. She’s just as evil as he is and should have gotten the same as Nathan.
Bless you, Becky. You didn’t deserve any of this.
She seemed so sweet
Becky was so beautiful. Such a shame she didn’t get to live her life fully.
So sad. She'd been through so much, and it looked like she was going to be OK, finally. Such a pointless loss.
@Find Truth you’re embarrassing yourself
@Find Truth yeh i'd stop commenting if i were you, weirdo
@Find Truth you know Jesus is a made up story right? Just stop. You’re making a fool of yourself.
@Find Truth you have one source. And it also has talking snakes in it, so...yea. Good luck with that.
She did not do her GCSEs in school so she came to my company to do foundation work and courses and I was her maths teacher. She was a very bright young lady and now she is the brightest star in the sky. I do miss Becky a lot as we got on really well, we would have chats outside of classes and sat down to have a coffee together. We did become friends ( I was a 22 year old maths teacher at the time for foundational work. It was very upsetting not seeing Becky in my classroom after she passed away and I miss our everyday coffee chats in break times, but I am sure that she is in a much better place now. We all miss you Becky. Lots of love, Katie xxxxxx
Awful stuff
She's just as guilty, she helped to dismember and hide the body parts. Her boyfriend just didn't want her to go to jail.
And cover up after while having a good time in the interviews
Nooooo waaaaaaay. You guys saw the interview. She *very clearly* stated she had nothing to do with it. Just look how hard she was thinking when they asked her if she knew anything about it! Way too genuine to be lying.
@@pink_sock She was practicing deception to me.
@@royhunt3773 And that flew over ya head boi
@@rcket6057 No, what's flying over my head is how she's somehow the victim. It's all about perception though, right? Being totally sarcastic!
Whenever someone says they "accidentally" strangled someone, I always roll my eyes cause it takes AT LEAST 3 minutes of cutting off the air to kill someone so how do u "accidentally" strangle someone for 3 minutes?? 3 minutes is actually longer than it seems like it is. I'll never believe someone that says they "accidentally" strangled someone.
It was an accident that he got caught. Without the “accident” of getting caught he would have gotten away with it. It was all just an “accident “.
I always cringe when I hear ‘they accidentally fell and died. I thought if I called 911 I would be blamed.......so I buried them in the woods.’
They literally go limp before they die. That shit is intentional
Hmmmm you speak as though you have a lot of experience in this area .... lol j/k, but no seriously what aren't you telling us?
@@reignman30 lol no I just know about the human body. If u watch like the BTK serial killer talk in court, he said there were multiple times where he would strangle someone and think they were dead, go to the next person in the house, then he would see that the other person woke up. He's not the only one that has said stuff like that. So yeah, it takes way longer than u would think to strangle someone to death.
I literally was just thinking "I wonder if Mike has a new video yet" ....... you are the definition of clutch, reliability and appreciation
True that!
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Tuesdays and Fridays I look forward to mike posting!
@@yahniv9291 I didn't realize he had a schedule, thank you so much
@@michaelsimmons3114 you're welcome ☺
I remember watching this case by another True Crime creator, that monster of a step brother put Becky through hell all the time and when you read into what was all said and done throughout the years there is no doubt nobody could see that he had serious issues but also had a very strong "distaste" for Becky that went beyond a "brother/sister type relationship" so it doesn't surprise me how he tried to trash her character.
I just feel like there were signs that parents would be able to notice.
I feel for her parents and I hope Becky is at peace, her light should still be here. 👼
Another great and put together video Mike 😊 currently going through and watching all video's.
Shauna deserves more than 17 years. She had just as much part to play in the whole situation as he did
It reminds me of that case in Canada where a woman named Karla Homolka and her boyfriend kidnapped her own sister among other girls and tortured her to death. She got way less time than he did, only 12 years, got out and has a family and children. She has the nerve to complain about being "harrassed." The system is incredibly soft on women.
@@INatalkaI thats disgusting
She is a woman you know
Female privilege
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'SEXUAL PLAYTHING.' 'I HATE THAT I JUST SAID THAT!' MIKE, UV GOT HEART, UR A DECENT LAD!!
If I am not mistaken he was part or all of the reason that she was anorexic. He bullied her for years and told her she was fat.
I thought Mike said it was kids at school that bullied her about her weight?
@@samanthaohora2396 I vaguely remember this case. I remember them saying the half brother were absolutely awful to her
First stop fat shaming seconds stop murder.
I can see what you’re doing, it’s not true, stop trying to make a theory of it
@@RaferJeffersonIII so, basically what you are saying is ...we should just start killing fat people? Idk if I can agree with you on that
@@samanthaohora2396 it was a mixture of both but Mike didn't talk about how he always was awful towards her.
What they don’t tell you in this video is, her and her older brother were in foster care for a bit. This caused her anxiety. Also she was super attached to her step mom and then she the stepmom was diagnosed with MS and only recently getting over being blind for a short time during an attack. This is when her son, the stepmoms son, kills her Becky.
"was almost her own daughter"
The fact that shauna used past tense is already a huge red flag
Poor becky 😔
You dun fucked up when you kill a pretty white girl...dont ppl know that by now?
@@Scorch428 why bring race into this? Don't be such an idiot
@@iamgroot6965 Because if she were a black dude that got murdered, no one would care.
@@Scorch428 again, this has literally nothing to do with race
Stop bringing race into everything
@@Scorch428 You're just trying to cause drama with that BS
Being 14 years old and in a relationship with someone in their early 20s is definitely NOT ok....
Agreed !
Shauna is as sick and twisted as him tho to be fair 🤮
It's sick that the liberals think age is also fluid. A man can be a woman, a 20 year old can be a 14 year old... if they just believe hard enough, that's what they are.... very sick.
@@BornIn1500 No one believes in age-fluidity. That's a smear campaign created by alleged conservatives.
Yep
@@tinamcleod3928 agreed
"i kidnapped her to teach her to be nicer" who do you think you are, jigsaw???
An entitled misogynistic pervert
Lmao
Let’s play a game 💀 😂
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I appreciate that you don’t give the gruesome details but stick to the facts of the cases. Especially when it comes to kids.
I remember this case. Really upset by it. Becky's friends said that she was afraid of her stepbrother and that he used to say terrible things to her. What bothered me, and still does when I think about her, is how come the 'family' did not notice. The stepmother just looked down in the televised pleading by the father. Where was her biological mother? That poor girl suffered bullying etc... Some cases really get to you, and this one get to me. There is a history here.
I think the stepmother already knew.
She probably wanted to save her actual son more than anything else
I reckon he was abusing from very young. To have eating disorders and anxiety and fear of him would certainly produce that. Also he was driving around 12 year olds. The bloke was a nonce
How do you ACCIDENTALLY suffocate and stab someone 15 times?? Then dismember the body, and still said "I didn't know anything "
Hey, accidents happen. Some more severe than others.
To be more serious, yeah, how can someone even come up with an excuse like that..
@Cynthia Murphy thank you!! TOTAL lack of a moral compass, ughhh
I've asked you to cover this for like a year now, because the case just haunted me so much and I wanted to know what you thouhgt of it. Thank you, Mike.
I LOVE how Mike keeps his stories clean and still suspenseful and tasteful. Thank you for not disclosing gory details and terrifying parts.
Sometimes, alot of times, life is so unfair man. This shy innocent girl did not deserve to go out like this.
Hopefully she is in paradise
@@elishh8567 Not unless she was in a real relationship with Jesus Christ...
@@TapDancerDood What was the need in saying this? She was a young girl and what happened to her was awful. Keep ur religion out of this- of course she is at peace.
Especially to have it done by someone who is supposed to be family and to be attacked in your own bedroom.
@@TapDancerDood Absolute rubbish.
Shauna referred to Becky in the past tense in her interview, despite Becky hadn't been found dead.
I noticed that too
Mmmhm, dead giveaway
Yep, first thing that I noticed too.
Oh yeah! When I saw another documentary on this, I thought the same thing. And she stutters after she says it. It's like, "Hello giant red flag." Xo
This doesn’t mean anything. People key in on past tense words too much lol.
20 seconds into the video: She had a stepbrother 12 years older than her.
Me: He did it.
Word
ditto!
Me too!
Same
Yep.
I'm having trouble watching this video. It strongly resonates with me. It's such a sad and tragic tale. I feel heartbroken about Becky and those who loved her and the future she was robbed of. She deserved so much. I can't wrap my mind around how unfair life is and that such beautiful people are hurt so badly and never get to heal and shine.
17 years for that level of brutality is insane. She will be back among society before 40.
be a girl > kill somebody together with a man > cry > get your prison term halved
No kidding, an utter travesty. Second to the fact that, well, THE LACES WERE OUT.
@@daisyjane6478 THE LACES WERE IN
But as we are living in the age of the internet....her sentence is life.
In fact.... she'll be more miserable outside the structured "society" of prison than in civvy street.
Even for the most mundane jobs you need a DBS check.
Her life is over...
Why were they putting words in her mouth?
This story angers me to tears. This beautiful young girl got a really shitty, raw deal in her short life. She suffered with social anxiety and poor body image early on thanks to her own crappy "half" relative & still continued being a kind person, looking to move on and upwards in her life. Hate is so strong in people, hate and jealousy - the girlfriend of Nathan was clearly jealous of Becky and deserves the same punishment. If a person can be this sick and twisted at such a young age, without intense rehabilitation this person stands zero chance of ever becoming a productive, respectable member of society.
Thank you Danielle for being so direct. Absolutely agree with you.
Why was she jealous of Becky? I think that is trying to make sense out of something that makes no sense.
Maybe she won't get out. You never know what can happen in prison.
@@haji818721 Why would Shauna want to be with that nob she was with at thirteen? Clearly, she had some serious self-esteem issues. That's why she was jealous of Becky. It doesn't have to make sense to sensible people to be true.
Anyone who murders someone should be given a chance for rehabilitation. They took someone else’s life, there’s should be taken in return
I feel so bad for her like this is really sad if anyone didn't deserve any of this it would be Becky
"You need to start treating people better."
- Nathan, convicted murderer.
Hard to believe that level of evil exists. Rest in peace Becky ❤
You mean nicer as in abduction to the woods? And that's already the delusional down-played version of his exemplary behavior XD
I can't tell you how many times I've 'accidentally' strangled someone. 🤨
after stabbing them 15 times too😒👀😒
Yeah, me too! 🙄
@@Willam_J Well friends, if I'm being honest, I think I may have a bit of a problem...🤷♀️
Right it takes a little while to actually do it
And stabbed them 15 times
There is a book on this case written by the father of Becky Watts, Darren Galsworthy. For anyone interested, the book is called 'The Evil Within'. It is a very good read and goes into a lot of detail.
Did she have a different last name?
Thanks for posting
@@brittnienichole6 sounds like she must have...?
Right away I thought of the video game.
@@doperagu8471 kinda weird
amazing how they do all kinds of evil and then cry when they are caught
Social anxiety. My permanent companion. I have medication to go food shopping. Can't leave the house, sometimes not even the room without the pills. It sucks. It is hard to deal with and tragically it will never go away. I do get disability payments thanks to the official diagnosis by psychologists. I will never go missing, since I will always be in my place. We that suffer from this are not capable to leave into the unknown.
I have suffered social anxiety my whole life… most people will never come close to understanding what it feels like inside.. I hope it gets better for you.. I have learned personally for me it’s how I was born, I can’t change it.. I just try to put my faith in God..
FOS
it's called agoraphobia and I suffer too. I take meds too but rarely travel alone. It starts to get better hun when you're older because then you just don't give a Shiite about what's going on. I'm 54 now and it's getting better. I hope you will one day too. 😘
I have social anxiety too but it really is mind over matter, my brain goes a million miles a minute in public places and I feel anxiety throughout my whole body, but you have to just push through it, you can’t live your life like that, you only get 1 and you don’t know when it’s going to end. I recommend ashwaghanda, absolutely destroys my anxiety and doesn’t have all the negatives of hardcore pharmaceuticals. Also meditation. The best thing I can do is workout hard so my testosterone is high, then cold shower and my brain is entirely present/ no anxious thoughts. Also no fap helped me a lot, seemed like a lot of my symptoms were from watching porn. Just don’t give up and listen to a diagnose, there’s so much you can change and do to feel better
Shauna can't keep the shit-eating grin off her face. Not even a little bit. There isn't a moment in any clip where not even a ghost of that smile is absent. She's incredibly pleased with herself every time her involvement with Becky is mentioned, questioned or insinuated, regardless of what's happening to Shauna herself.
She relives the crime get off on it.
Hopefully she's getting roughed up by the other prison women.
People also laugh when they're nervous. Hopefully she was just shitting her pants
She also refers to Becky in last tense in an interview
I cant imagine what her dad went through finding out what happened to his daughter (poor girl) and under his own roof.
Must have been a shitty dad.
@@majakolonj426 she was close to her dad so he was decent
His reason for kidnapping Becky is 'because she's mean to her parents and so to teach her a lesson' I kid you not. - That's the stupidest and flimsiest reason I've ever heard! It's almost like he's deliberately being a smartass.
Dam no disrespect but I thought you were a busted lady but your a guy😁
@@michaelhorne1037 It's ok, the thumbnail size on UA-cam is too small if you ask me.
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It was sexually motivated but he tried to make out he was almost doing his family a favour like some kind of hero instead of the vile coward he was!
Sickening. I met Becky's brother on Rust like a week before she was found. He asked me to keep an eye and ear out for her, even though I lived many miles away from where this took place.
When you have binged all of Mike’s videos, you just have to go back through and find ones you have pretty much forgotten. There’s replay value in your shit, Mike. Thanks for your effort in these videos. I can get enough of these stories. You’re awesome, man! Once, twice, 🌲 times a badass!
That boy Gurt
It took me a minute to get the tree part. 😂
Mike is excellent at what he does. The king of true crime.....
That's exactly what I'm doing now! Frantically searching through his vids looking for the one without the dreaded "you've seen it" red bar underneath! Haha
When are murderers going to realise, when they go for cleaning supplies- they are always on camera. It happens allll the time.
Let's hope they stay _that_ stupid into perpetuity!
Seriously like everytime
@@mr.hitchens facts
@The Slap thanks now I'm going to murder someone
@The Slap too late now I'm in prison
The poor parents her son killed his daughter, how do you get past that in a marriage? Sick people are hiding in all sorts of places and Becky didn't deserve this at all RIP Becky, I hope her dad and Step mum could find peace
Mike is the most entertaining UA-cam crime host I’ve found in my time on UA-cam
People brush anxiety disorders under the rug and act as if being so anxious about social situations to the point of puking is just quirky shyness. Anxiety has controlled my entire life since I was six years old. This poor girl didn’t deserve any of this. She deserved a life, she deserved those little victory’s in the path to recovery from her Eating disorder and anxiety.
I have suffered from severe social anxiety my whole life.. people have no idea how hard it is to live like that, how it feels inside and the domino effect of problems it causes for yourself.. I hope it gets better for you.. ❤️
@@stephaniebach__12-24 Thank you so much, I hope the same for you!
@@stephaniebach__12-24 such severe social anxiety that I usually like to be by myself at all time I fear of being judged when I’m around others. My aunt is going to die of cancer in a few days and I need to leave Florida and go all the way to Michigan so I can basically watch her die and than come all the way back, why would I want to leave at all. This does not interest me.
@@yangsrealm2536 Well I hope it gets better for you.. I lost a few family recently too and funerals are very hard to go to with social anxiety… people just need to understand that everyone takes things in their own way and we all deal with things differently and people have no right to judge
"What gave them away? Being hygienic." Made me cackle.
It’s just sad a little girl was murdered and not allowed to grow up. She had a rough life, my hearts goes out to her father and everyone who loved her. Just sad 😭
Could you send me some money?
@@livmarlin4259 huh?
How British:
"It appears my daughter's gone missing."
"No one has seen her, no?"
"No."
Not that British though, just Southern English. In Northern England it wouldn't be like that at all
So she got just 17 years for helping with the killing and dismembering a teenager?
English justice huh
I'm trying to tell people that this is exactly what the leading forces of our realm feed off of injustice and innocence blood shed. The rulers of the matrix or whatever spell they've casted upon us is relentless, brutal, and goes against everything it means to be human.
Shes a woman so it makes sense 🙄
Aka bullshit
@@SubliminalMessagesTV hooahh a fellow who knows thier stuff! Yes the world has become very soft, even in England, the police are doing atrocious things, the cops in the usa would be jealous...
@@weedboozled I feel like people exaggerate how easy they get off (lol)
@@pandogstudios1512 I see what you did there 😂
Their “fantasies” Somewhat reminds me of the “Ken and Barbie” killers, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
It bugs me that karla is out living her life now, with a husband and children. It's not fair.
@@Elegant_Sausage yep your not the only one it bothers !! It’s hard to believe in Karma when she has quite a good life nowadays.
Exactly.
Yes it's true ! they also have something else in common, those young couples were still living in the parents' home and it is not healthy at all. The psychiatrists say that young couples must leave the parents home and find a place of their own. Generally it doesn't end up in rapes and murders but it is often a source of problems.
It bothers me that she’s enjoying her life now ( being out of jail ) unlike, her sister.😡😡😡
"he was attacked with a pan of melted butter""" WELL DONE. about 30 times a day.......and HER.....what a piece of shite. rest in peace, Becky.
Oil is better
@@myunknownland9272 melted butter is basically oil. Also I doubt they use real butter in prison, it's probably margarine which when melted is literally oil
NOT ALL HEROES WEAR CAPES
Makes me feel better👍
fun fact: after being attacked with the boiling butter, his face and other parts of his body suffered quite horrific burns. he asked for plastic surgery, which would of been paid for by tax payers money on the NHS, this was swiftly refused.
Becky was such a pretty girl. It's such a shame that she didn't seem to know it and also that there are people, even her own family, that would harm her.
Well, that goes for all the cases where these monsters think they have some kind of excuse to cause harm to others.
I remember this case. I was about the same age as Becky living in Bristol when it happened and literally no teenage girl was allowed out the house in fear of a killer on the loose snatching girls up.
The amount of times he says “obviously” while talking about his plan to “scare” Becky makes it obvious he’s lying
Obviously.
Also the amount of time it takes to choke someone to death. You can't do it by accident.
Well obviously😉
I know it shouldn't make a difference, but Becky was so so pretty. You can see her growing into her beauty. I bet she would have been absolutely stunning as an adult. Such a shame.
Mike it's getting harder to find videos of yours i haven't already seen, they're so engaging i find it hard to stop watching one after the other
Interesting that he chose a prison uniform as his costume. Interesting in a "I'm a total psycho and I belong in jail" sort of way.
Wow right though... 🤦🏻♂️
Ive seen a couple other stories same thing.
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I used to live in Bristol and was at the local court to witness a case the day Matthews was taken into custody, a load of the guys awaiting their hearing were calling people they knew were connected to inside the prisons letting them know the guys name and to “have him”.. I hope they did!
I hope so as well. As strange as it may sound, even people in prison have an unwritten code of what is and what is not acceptable behavior.
@@mariakelly1059 Yes, even the hardest brutal murderer won't tolerate pedophiles and child killers
You people are almost as bad as the killers you so loathe. You just want cruelty and suffering.
@@mariakelly1059 Because they're horrible people who need to feel better about themselves, so they look down on other brutal criminals. Pathetic...
@@Flotter-Flo You know, they aren't all of them killers and pedophiles. They're also petty crooks, thieves, people who owed money to the public and others. They are conscious of what they are doing, they steal because otherwise they and their family will starve (for example). So the unwritten law is not as you said "to make them feel better". There are just some lines they don't cross.
The fact that Shawna is talking about Becky in the past tense is a MASSIVE red flag. I'm surprised they didn't call her out on it during that interview.
Lol they didn’t need to they had all the evidence they needed
No. It. Isnt.
Why is Everybody bringing this up? Like in many cases... T
It's always somebody who will make such claims...
It's just language. We live in a world where people talk all kinds of sh1te and don't even know what words mean..
@@oliveryt7168 It's something investigators have seen as a pattern: the people who refer to the person in the past tense - while everyone is still looking for them - tend to be guilty
Yup, when she said "she was", that was a red flag.
Just because they didn't immediately throw it in her face doesn't mean they didn't notice. There's a subtle art to good police interrogation. We only saw like 30 seconds of their interrogations. They likely did bring it up.
i love that you show us cute pictures or videos of the victim. just breaks my heart.