We did this in the Adirondack mountains 15 years ago. There are a lot of details that you need to check before you buy: zoning. Will you be permitted to build multiple, income structures on the property. Water. Will you drill a well or be on city water? How deep on average in the area (this can get waaay expensive). Perk test. Will you be able to install engineered septic on the land in all the planned housing locations? Is the entry road passable in winter conditions? Will you have to plow or does the city/county do this? Cost of building materials in the area. Given the devastation in California recently, predictions are being made that building materials all over the country will skyrocket as the available supplies will likely go west. I don't mean to put down your choice , but I want you to be aware of things that surprised us when we built here. We wish you all the best on your project.
All great information. Another very important test would be, for want of a better name, a compaction test of the graded and filled lot. Want to make sure the soil brought to the site was properly compacted as it was layered to create the large pad.
Make sure you consult with an Expert/Lawyer. You need to have Easements for all Utilities, driveway, etc, things you never thought about and can’t predict. Also, meet your abutters/Neighbors on all sides, so you can get a feel for who you will be living next to, very important for quality of life.
I am glad you have found land and hopefully a healthy birth of your bub. My wife and I watch you each week. We have noticed since starting filming on land your camera movements a very fast and jolt about. Can I suggest you use a gimble, tripod, and slower movements with the camera. We love you guys and look forward to seeing what you are up to next. ❤
Congrats guys. Just a little bit of information for you to check out before you invest. I was raised and grew up in that area. The smokeys was my back door. You should check with the zoning laws before purchasing and any proposed structure improvements. When I bought my 15 acres some years ago of course I was restricted to how many structures I was allowed to build and size restrictions. Not to mention any setbacks and right of ways. Just want to save you a few headaches. Good luck guys on your homestead and your new addition to the family.
Congrats y’all ‼️ Yes, as suggested, do a few RV hook ups (if allowed) first. Park on one, get the $ flowing on the others, then start the A/B&Bs building. Move into one of them and use your camper to rent. Do more b&bs, THEN do your main house after the cash flow increases.
It looks amazing! We built a couple RV sites on our homestead as second priority and it cost less than $4000 with us doing almost all the work ourselves. That doesn't account for the first priority, a well which was nearly 20k, and the septic which was already on the farm. Electricity was another 3k, and the driveway was already in. Obviously, building costs vary depending on the labor costs of the region but to put in a well, septic and power will cost at least 30-40k or more no matter where you are in the US of A. I was a buulder in my previous life, but this helped very litlle in the process of installing the main infrastructure, aside from being able to do my own excavating and grading. Once the utilities are in, living in the trailer will be luxurious compared to dry camping, with having to live on batteries and generator, portaging water, and portaging sewer. Praying for all the best gifts for you guys and wisdom on how to move forward. Excited to see the Scarlett for the first time!
Jordan, I see all the comments and concerns and concerns from others but I know how thorough you are and I am sure you have a grasp of the situation. I’m very excited for you and your family. Thanks for bringing us along. Love you guys.
A lot of good advice in the thread. The zoning questions regard the ability to put multiple dwellings on the site with one driveway and your zoning won't be residential... I do income generating properties, all beachfront, including the purchase of existing teardowns where I subdivide and build multiples. The point is that your success depends on your location. You have to be close to shopping, site seeing, etc. Being too remote will lower your income potential, if not eliminating it altogether. There's a reason some properties are more expensive. Having a long drive is expensive and having a long gravel drive is impossible to maintain in snowy environments where plowing is needed for renters to get in and out of your property. Get with local rental management companies and have them give you an estimate of income at your site BEFORE you buy and build, not that you would use them, but use their expertise in the area! At your age and income, you're gonna get one shot at this. Choose wisely.
Great advice, Mike. We actually do manage to keep our gravel driveway (900' long) plowed up here in spite of the substantial snowfall. I attached a bar on the bottom of the plow blade and it skims over the gravel without scooping it up. It's called "groundz keeper", and it's custom made by Crystal Steel House in Michigan. It's an excellent product and has worked well over the past 2 winters.
Or even ‘glamping’ areas. Platforms with large tents next to RV parking/hookups. Lots of young people will vacation rental that way for a less expensive trip. You can make them super luxe, then slowly covert each area to actual cabins. You’ve probably already started…hope all is going smoothly ( and welcome baby Scarlet 🎀)!
I've been following you guys for quite some time. I'm a Mtn boy from Rke Va & have been living in Va Beach for quite some time. I still go to Roanoke a few times a year as my sister still lives deep in the Holler. Having the ability to be able to live in the Mtns & Still have family by the Sea is a Blessing. Your family is wonderful. I've experienced great joy in seeing you grow. May God's Blessings be with you all ways & always. If you build it, they will come! Peace.
Exciting stuff, so happy for you guys. Man, so much going on.... never a dull moment! Can't wait for the episodes on your house build. I envision "rustic" concepts, will be interesting to see what your tastes are in a home buld from the ground up.Congratulations on getting the site selected and deciding on how you will produce income moving forward. Most of all, congratulations on the new baby, can't wait to see the new human addition. Be safe, be well and thanks for sharing.
Only recommendation I have is to check the zoning for the lot. Are you limited to a number of ADU (additional dwelling units) you are allowed on the site, if you can have commercial units or a business for rentals, do you need individual septic systems and well, or can you combine the ADU’s, etc etc. Other than that, what a beautiful lot! Congrats and welcome home 🎉🏡❤🏡🎉
Zoning is a big deal for what you want to build. Just because you have a lot of land doesn't mean you can build whatever you want. Zoning and county/city regulations may not allow you to build all that. I live in TN outside Chattanooga. We have over 40 acres but are only allowed to build 1 house per 5 acres and even less when you consider the perk tests and septic requirements. I hope everything works out for your new home. Please do a lot of research before building!!
I Live in Transylvania County and they are cracking down on AB&B's. Too many AND they determined that they don't really add value to the towns as most renters eat in (part of the lure of renting them to keep expenses down). Prices are also coming down for nightly stays AND some counties don,t want 2-3 night stays. Weekly is preferred also to keep the turnover rates down. I'm seeing more and more push back.
We live just south of Chattanooga in Georgia and we have very strict building codes for how many homes you can put on your land. Do your research and check with the local building department about codes and restrictions for your area before you make an offer that way there’s no surprises. Best of luck!
Congratulations! My advice would be to build the Air BnBs first. Live in one of them, then when you have the cash flow, build the dream home. "Plow your fields first, then build your house". Maybe build a simple pole barn structure as a primitive shop, later you can close it in as a "barndominium" or dream shop. No charge for the advice, love the location and your decision making process. Also, I love that you are making your way, without ignoring your parents, or farming out your kids to a day care.
It is the same video being repeated as new over and over. i am happy to hear you have likely landed at your future home! Hope you have good compassionate care and birth for your second baby!
If that much fill was brought in for this site, to put a foundation on this site you have to dig down to virgin ground to support a house. That could make the cost of the foundation considerably higher. The cost up north to bring power back that far from the road has gotten astronomical. In 2013 to bring power 400’ to my own private house including a transformer pad that would handle a second home was $10,000 and I dug the trenches, supplied the sand for bedding the wire, and steel conduit just going up the pole. The cost today is $20,000 plus. I still had to run another 150’ from the pad to my meter box above and beyond that cost. I sub-divided 3 acres from my property for my daughter and she was able to draw power from the pad also. Is there water at the road? Natural gas? All the utilities are not cheap to get that far off the road. Up in NY, you dearly to have power and gas brought on the property if it’s available. How deep are the neighbors wells on the properties around yours if water is not available at the street. Have you spoken to a well driller about the potential costs. We always ask neighbors nearby how deep there wells are, sit the water plentiful, and is it sweet or need to be treated for sulfur, iron, etc. Your videos sound as if you are kids in a candy store without revealing whether you have done any research that has been suggested by a number of people, or are you just that naive. Or, are just mining for UA-cam comments and such that will help your channel? You have mentioned nothing of any research from suggestions you received.
Looks like a lot of locals have already commented, so this might be redundant. Please check for steep slope laws, easements/rights of way, and very importantly, does the land perk for septic, and average well pressure in the area for multiple living buildings. Good luck to you both and blessings in your adventure! ❤
Huge congratulations Jordan and Desiree, Esa and Scarlet and of course Oso. You guys will do wonderful things there - not least of which is the new baby. Best of everything to you. Dxx
Well, good luck with the property! A lot of good comments here, and good suggestions! Good luck with your new baby! How exciting. Never a dull moment with you guys! Thank you for the video.
With recent geo events, something to think about when building in a forest is fire retardant decking and metal fencing. You can also get these mesh overlays for your loft and basement vents. Something to think about - good luck guys
I am a civil engineer in California and, I agree with the concerns everyone else has brought up but, I want to add the fire department requirements to the list also. They may make you improve your driveway to you main building site. I am not sure how wide you access road is, but they may want it widened and paved, could result in needing retaining walls. They will also probably have maximum slope requirements which could result in you having to use a grooved paved surface to get to your building site. In addition, once at your site you could have to provide a fire turn around, this eat up space. Just a few more things to investigate. I certainly wish you the best, you guys are a great family and are enjoyable to watch.
Congrats on making the first step to finding a lot and good luck on the next steps. Hope you are at a good spot in current time and have a second lovely bundle of joy in your arms. Property looks good from the video and looks like you made a good decision. Offer stands to give you a free site survey so you can start your plan for the future. The first order of Buisness is to make sure the location is friendly to you even doing short term rentals. Some city’s are actively against it so clear that item before you close. Good luck.
If they brought in dirt to level a slope, you have the risk of that all flowing down hill. Sometimes it looks great but when you core you find it is not packed. Then foundations have issues.
Jordan, So much to consider. From a guy who bought 75 acres in NC and has been developing it for last several years, permitting permitting permitting. Water source, how far is the electric run. Take whatever time frame you have in mind and double it. Just saying. Love to talk to you about our challenges. In the end it will be worth it
In addition to all other things mentioned by others. fyi; some jurisdictions require build projects to be completed within time restraints. Assuming you may have signed on the bottom line, I hope that your learning curve has excelled as there are so many bases to cover to protect yourselves on many levels, including not getting in over your head financially. A good realtor, lender, and architect can help guide you. Jordan, are you prepared to take a job if needed? A lot of responsibility. All the best and congratulations on the arrival of your new addition.
Lots of info in comments and I trust you and the realtor have done your homework. This channel is getting better each episode. You guys have a FANTASTIC project. Starting with RV hookups sounds like a good plan to generate income right away, while you build your AB&Bs
I'm so happy for you both, Isabella too. Her and her new sibling will have a lot of running space, a great town to go and so many fun places to spend time. I believe that is a great decision, it looks perfect.
I'm so glad you picked North Carolina. Welcome to my home state. I'm on the other end of the state, in New Bern, where you once came to look at a boat when you were searching for Atticus II (actually in my neighborhood.... Fairfield Harbour!). I desperately miss your sailing journey but I'm enjoying following along on this new part of your life. Crossing fingers that your offer gets accepted!
I would prioritise getting a viable site for a home. It is so important to prioritise time with children, those early years are vital to ensuring they maximise their potential. It takes, time with parents, suitable balance of nursery, activities, music, sports, time with compatible children. Then you need time for each other. If the permits, soil, water, etc, are not in place then I would be looking for a conditional contract. The fees, consultants, surveys, additional works, engineering, roads, they all add up. Also it is vital to understand the control and responsibilities for maintenance of access roads, what happens when there is more development. Wishing you well with your new addition to the family.
Have you considered creating a tiny house community? They come fully self contained. You wil need to build roads and parking pads but they often use composting toilets so no septic. Great potential & steady income.
Speaking from an engineering perspective, please ask about the soil conditions and what potential engineered fill conditioning and/or foundation design considerations maybe be required for your structure type choice. Clayey soils typically require extra amendments effort and design considerations not to mention a need for effective drainage measures to avoid structural issues post construction.
So excited for you two. As to the cemetery, our oldest daughter and her husband owned a place next to a cemetery. From experience, you know those neighbors will be quiet
Congratulations - great video as always. There is a fellow in Wintergreen Va that bought some land, cleared it himself and used the trees to build an amazing inn - The Fenton Inn. About 6 hours north of Bryson - think Will Fenton would be a great contact for you guys for insights on your project. Quite a renaissance fellow - probably worth a video just to visit.
Careful about planning multiple cabins. Most City/County Planning and Zoning Departments are going to have limits on the number of dwelling structures on a single property. Before buying anything, visit them to discuss your vision and see if it would cause any hangups. For example, in my county, you are limited to one single family dwelling plus one ADU up to 900sqft, but 5 cabins would be a no-go and require some sort of conditional use permit, with public hearings and stuff.
Congratulations!! Homestead on the way😁!!!.....Baby on the way!!.......Too bad you have so much free time....😂😅.....Best wishes with all the construction and production!!❤
When you get started, build the shop first. There ought to be companies in the area that advertise pole buildings. A good sized pole barn shop will have more use than you'll believe now and over the next 20 years.
I don't think that is too far from TOWN.... That area is growing / like most small towns and....will keep expanding all around the Town. (As you know...People are moving out of the Cities!) Bryson.... Will turn into a small City....in your life time. Glad you are not building close to a highway... the roads are only going to get busier and busier...as the area grows.
Storms, weather pressure bombs , tornadoes, fires Quakes and hurricanes.. Flash Floods and access to roads schools and medical centers. Orientate any structures to the Sun and the prevailing weather direction ...you can go two ways on that system 🧙🏼♂️ with the dominant passive winds or to protect against the main storm directions. BTW the British Isles have just gone through 100mph plus winds again ... and they still might not be finished. As a Geologist and Environmental Scientists I would suggest you avoid most American vernacular construction on any site with an open aspect.. build for tomorrow's weather and environment not today's or yesterday's. Insurance companies are simply saying no and pulling out of huge areas. And banks won't offer money on uninsured builds. You can anchor ⚓ any storm stable structure on built up ground on a relatively small number of piles to create a floating platform if the clearing terrace is uncertain .
Interesting picking out property; I always think about neighborhood and the essentials needed like water, electricity, sewage, what are the normal four seasons like, exciting to see your progress..
That’s hometown of keeping a float with the Joneses. They live on a floating home on Lake Fontana. But someday they hope to have a sailboat. They also just bought a rental within Bryson city and are fixing it up to be an Airbnb.
9:44 - "brought in a ton of dirt" How clean? How well compacted? As a retired building inspector, I recommend soil test(s) before close of escrow. Here in SoCal, testing is required before building now (see Rancho Palos Verdes landslide area). Foundations CAN be engineered to fit most conditions, it's just a matter of at what cost. Make friends with local building officials as applicable.
I learned this the hard way. Had to install 30 helical piers that weren't in the budget. Like everyone here is saying, do your due diligence. Read ALL the zoning restrictions for your property. Sometimes you can get a variance for some deviations. Also, find out about any tree ordinances. We had to pay thousand just for permission to cut down our trees. I wish everybody had to build at least one house in their life just to see how difficult our governments sometimes make it.
Well of course this film was timed weeks ago if not months so for certain baby #2 has arrived. I can only wish you all the best moving forward on this home build. Lots of help/suggestions coming from your followers here. Hope you’ve done your homework as it sounds like there’s an emended amount of work to do. Maybe just take one project at a time.,not rush it all together and also check out your neighbors. Like seriously. Your property appears remote so hope you’ll receive all the help you can get. Take care!
I don't know you guys. I have never commented on what I think you should or shouldn't do, as I am not a sailor. However, the one thing I have been is a landlord. I would strongly caution you against this. As I am sure you have heard, it was an awful experience. It's cost me thousands of dollars and a major fight with the missus. You don't want it, trust me. The things they did to my houses... You have a youngster and another baby very soon. You are going to be busy with your kids and your actual home. I am not saying I don't do it. Just wait; it will be about 4 years when your kids are older and in school. Then, it's time to start that chapter. Get settled first. Get that foundation under you, then get into the tricky stuff. Best of luck, as always.
> J Neuel > You don't want IT, trust me (What?) > What WAS the Awful experience ? The business, rentals is the 'Tricky Stuff?" Against What? This property ? / Building rentals or their home? The builders awful? / Building in the Hills? Thousands of dollars for what? > Permits / building on a mountain?
Building / Renovated.... doing anything while looking after TWO young children. (one of you will be looking after the kids / the other outside building = Living Separate lives. (My husband and I couldn't do it > No Time / Energy / or extra $ to pay someone else to do it.) Moving to a new State / no family to help with babies / kids / building a home and a business. Yikes. The Paperwork alone is time consuming. YT channel / editing. Yikes-Yikes. You will not have the Time/energy to build things by yourselves. (The kids come first, or you will miss it) Find a local handyman that you can count on to help you out. You need Cash....(you will have a huge mortgage. ) > You may have the Land....but no Water / Elec. / Roads / Septic / Landscaping. Etc. ( Can turn into ....Big bucks) *Buying an old home with the Infrastructure in place...would save you...$75,000 (IDK) Even If you torn down the old building. (When you are cash poor, it's so stressful) Building supplies have gone UP....Everything! You will need Twice as much $ as you think. I don't think that is too far from TOWN.... Small towns are growing....it will keep expanding all around the Town. It Will turn into a City....in your life time. ( Roads will keep getting busier and busier as the area grows) You don't want to hear that. Good Luck.
@ Your tone is quite aggressive, sir. I am speaking of two homes I have owned and rented and a vacation rental. But hey, you sound right. Having two kids and a full-time job while being a landlord is a piece of cake. Everyone should do it. Thousands of dollars in damages. Want an example? How about covering your walls in excrement when being evicted? Throwing trash and garbage all over your property so when you pull up, it smells like a landfill? Would you be doing that to my neighbors? Yeah, man, you're right. It's cheap. It's easy.
I myself would never ever build on a slope. Like was said previous no way is that natural soil looks like fill. Also drainage and septic. Make darn sure that property Percs. Get that done before purchase. Also check zoning laws on how many structures you can build. Really close to the neighbors so they might not be keen to what you have planned either. You do not want a bad neighbor..I know people that do air bnb and they only rent for a few times every few months. It’s not consistent at all. There is very little money coming in for them. They are here in Washington and there is lots of things to see and do but the taxes here are insane.They are thinking of getting out..I myself have 30 rentals and my wife and I are managing them ourselves. I have seen it all good,bad,and worse tenants. People are pigs. If I knew then what I know now I would not become a landlord.oh and that red dirt that stuff is nasty. I helped my sister build a shop in Oklahoma and that’s nasty dirt gets in everything..
I agree.... "Really close to the neighbors so they might not be keen to what you have planned either." (Hopefully you Talked to them) Top Priority >>> Plant a row of safe / but fast growing ....TREES! (Evergreen) Between you and your neighbors. 🌲 🌲 🌲
That's a really great property; you will save a ton of money because it is cleared and graded already. So exciting can't wait for you to build Atticus III 😁This is going to be great! Can't wait to watch future videos.
Snow and ice are regular winter issues in that area. Also snakes and deer ticks. Ask locals, grocery store clerka and neighbors to get the full perspective.
Do not forget to evaluate the schools in the area since you have 2 little ones it will not be long to have to have them in school or homeschool. There are places you may not want to take your kids to school and homeschooling is not as easy as you think. There is a curriculum you have to follow and your kids will have to be proficient in their studies for their age.
A few thoughts: Make sure you check all the local building and road regulations. You're making a number of assumptions. i.e. I note the 'road' in is very basic. Will you be required to upgrade the road to engineering spec? I've heard of a few horror stories around here where the mandated road upgrades cost more than the land cost! We live rural in Australia and got this gem from our civil engineer. We had to upgrade our dirt road access before we could build. Cost: AU 40 grand .. and that was because it required minor construction. If you open commercial B n B, then you may be subjected to numbing compliance. Not raining on your parade but go in eyes wide open.
Bryson City is the home of a fellow You Tuber, custom home builder "Perkins Builder Brothers". I never cease to be amazed at how much land/home prices have inflated. I bought my 9.5 acres with home and 24x48 pole barn in north-central Ohio for just $53,000 in 1988. I really don't know how most people get by today with current prices.
Congratulations on your new home! I was hoping you would pick Bryson City! I think it is such a cute mountain town! I grew up rafting the Nantahala River every summer. There's so much to do in that area. I will definitely rent out one of your Airbnbs even if I have to drive through a cemetery. lol Hey, at least you'll have quite neighbors! I wish your family all the best of luck in your new adventure! Can't wait to see baby Scarlett!
lol so many folk giving helpful advice before you buy-nice, but this video was clearly shot months ago in the fall, before the leaves all dropped & winter set in.
We did this in the Adirondack mountains 15 years ago. There are a lot of details that you need to check before you buy: zoning. Will you be permitted to build multiple, income structures on the property. Water. Will you drill a well or be on city water? How deep on average in the area (this can get waaay expensive). Perk test. Will you be able to install engineered septic on the land in all the planned housing locations? Is the entry road passable in winter conditions? Will you have to plow or does the city/county do this? Cost of building materials in the area. Given the devastation in California recently, predictions are being made that building materials all over the country will skyrocket as the available supplies will likely go west. I don't mean to put down your choice , but I want you to be aware of things that surprised us when we built here. We wish you all the best on your project.
All great information. Another very important test would be, for want of a better name, a compaction test of the graded and filled lot. Want to make sure the soil brought to the site was properly compacted as it was layered to create the large pad.
Don’t forget these videos come out months after they’re filmed. It’s clearly still fall, not winter, in that area.
Exactly, and each cabin would need utilities and septic.... hidden costs will getcha!
@@RobertColvin-z8bI came to comments to mention this. 2nd compaction test!
Good luck!!
So much good info here! I hope they haven't bought the property before reading this.
Make sure you consult with an Expert/Lawyer. You need to have Easements for all Utilities, driveway, etc, things you never thought about and can’t predict. Also, meet your abutters/Neighbors on all sides, so you can get a feel for who you will be living next to, very important for quality of life.
I am glad you have found land and hopefully a healthy birth of your bub. My wife and I watch you each week. We have noticed since starting filming on land your camera movements a very fast and jolt about. Can I suggest you use a gimble, tripod, and slower movements with the camera. We love you guys and look forward to seeing what you are up to next. ❤
Congrats guys. Just a little bit of information for you to check out before you invest. I was raised and grew up in that area. The smokeys was my back door. You should check with the zoning laws before purchasing and any proposed structure improvements. When I bought my 15 acres some years ago of course I was restricted to how many structures I was allowed to build and size restrictions. Not to mention any setbacks and right of ways. Just want to save you a few headaches. Good luck guys on your homestead and your new addition to the family.
In theory a good realtor would have researched that for them, that is their job.
@@marc_aussie if they even used a realtor. And if they did hopefully they provided that information.
Congrats y’all ‼️ Yes, as suggested, do a few RV hook ups (if allowed) first. Park on one, get the $ flowing on the others, then start the
A/B&Bs building. Move into one of them and use your camper to rent. Do more b&bs, THEN do your main house after the cash flow increases.
It looks amazing! We built a couple RV sites on our homestead as second priority and it cost less than $4000 with us doing almost all the work ourselves. That doesn't account for the first priority, a well which was nearly 20k, and the septic which was already on the farm. Electricity was another 3k, and the driveway was already in. Obviously, building costs vary depending on the labor costs of the region but to put in a well, septic and power will cost at least 30-40k or more no matter where you are in the US of A. I was a buulder in my previous life, but this helped very litlle in the process of installing the main infrastructure, aside from being able to do my own excavating and grading. Once the utilities are in, living in the trailer will be luxurious compared to dry camping, with having to live on batteries and generator, portaging water, and portaging sewer. Praying for all the best gifts for you guys and wisdom on how to move forward. Excited to see the Scarlett for the first time!
Jordan, I see all the comments and concerns and concerns from others but I know how thorough you are and I am sure you have a grasp of the situation.
I’m very excited for you and your family. Thanks for bringing us along. Love you guys.
A lot of good advice in the thread. The zoning questions regard the ability to put multiple dwellings on the site with one driveway and your zoning won't be residential...
I do income generating properties, all beachfront, including the purchase of existing teardowns where I subdivide and build multiples.
The point is that your success depends on your location. You have to be close to shopping, site seeing, etc. Being too remote will lower your income potential, if not eliminating it altogether. There's a reason some properties are more expensive.
Having a long drive is expensive and having a long gravel drive is impossible to maintain in snowy environments where plowing is needed for renters to get in and out of your property.
Get with local rental management companies and have them give you an estimate of income at your site BEFORE you buy and build, not that you would use them, but use their expertise in the area!
At your age and income, you're gonna get one shot at this. Choose wisely.
Great advice, Mike. We actually do manage to keep our gravel driveway (900' long) plowed up here in spite of the substantial snowfall. I attached a bar on the bottom of the plow blade and it skims over the gravel without scooping it up. It's called "groundz keeper", and it's custom made by Crystal Steel House in Michigan. It's an excellent product and has worked well over the past 2 winters.
Highly recommend starting 5 RV full hook ups at about $15,000 per RV spot cost build.
Or even ‘glamping’ areas. Platforms with large tents next to RV parking/hookups. Lots of young people will vacation rental that way for a less expensive trip. You can make them super luxe, then slowly covert each area to actual cabins. You’ve probably already started…hope all is going smoothly ( and welcome baby Scarlet 🎀)!
I've been following you guys for quite some time. I'm a Mtn boy from Rke Va & have been living in Va Beach for quite some time. I still go to Roanoke a few times a year as my sister still lives deep in the Holler. Having the ability to be able to live in the Mtns & Still have family by the Sea is a Blessing. Your family is wonderful. I've experienced great joy in seeing you grow. May God's Blessings be with you all ways & always.
If you build it, they will come!
Peace.
Exciting stuff, so happy for you guys. Man, so much going on.... never a dull moment! Can't wait for the episodes on your house build. I envision "rustic" concepts, will be interesting to see what your tastes are in a home buld from the ground up.Congratulations on getting the site selected and deciding on how you will produce income moving forward. Most of all, congratulations on the new baby, can't wait to see the new human addition. Be safe, be well and thanks for sharing.
Only recommendation I have is to check the zoning for the lot. Are you limited to a number of ADU (additional dwelling units) you are allowed on the site, if you can have commercial units or a business for rentals, do you need individual septic systems and well, or can you combine the ADU’s, etc etc. Other than that, what a beautiful lot! Congrats and welcome home 🎉🏡❤🏡🎉
Thanks!
Zoning is a big deal for what you want to build. Just because you have a lot of land doesn't mean you can build whatever you want. Zoning and county/city regulations may not allow you to build all that. I live in TN outside Chattanooga. We have over 40 acres but are only allowed to build 1 house per 5 acres and even less when you consider the perk tests and septic requirements. I hope everything works out for your new home. Please do a lot of research before building!!
I Live in Transylvania County and they are cracking down on AB&B's. Too many AND they determined that they don't really add value to the towns as most renters eat in (part of the lure of renting them to keep expenses down). Prices are also coming down for nightly stays AND some counties don,t want 2-3 night stays. Weekly is preferred also to keep the turnover rates down. I'm seeing more and more push back.
We live just south of Chattanooga in Georgia and we have very strict building codes for how many homes you can put on your land. Do your research and check with the local building department about codes and restrictions for your area before you make an offer that way there’s no surprises. Best of luck!
Congratulations on finding the perfect property. Dreams got to start somewhere! Good luck with the baby and your home building project!
Congratulations! My advice would be to build the Air BnBs first. Live in one of them, then when you have the cash flow, build the dream home. "Plow your fields first, then build your house". Maybe build a simple pole barn structure as a primitive shop, later you can close it in as a "barndominium" or dream shop. No charge for the advice, love the location and your decision making process. Also, I love that you are making your way, without ignoring your parents, or farming out your kids to a day care.
Make sure you do soil borings in the area where you want to build a house and check the soil strength and obviously for your septic field location
It is the same video being repeated as new over and over. i am happy to hear you have likely landed at your future home! Hope you have good compassionate care and birth for your second baby!
Yeah… good choice. It will be fun to follow along on the build. Love you guys!
If that much fill was brought in for this site, to put a foundation on this site you have to dig down to virgin ground to support a house. That could make the cost of the foundation considerably higher. The cost up north to bring power back that far from the road has gotten astronomical. In 2013 to bring power 400’ to my own private house including a transformer pad that would handle a second home was $10,000 and I dug the trenches, supplied the sand for bedding the wire, and steel conduit just going up the pole. The cost today is $20,000 plus. I still had to run another 150’ from the pad to my meter box above and beyond that cost. I sub-divided 3 acres from my property for my daughter and she was able to draw power from the pad also. Is there water at the road? Natural gas? All the utilities are not cheap to get that far off the road. Up in NY, you dearly to have power and gas brought on the property if it’s available. How deep are the neighbors wells on the properties around yours if water is not available at the street. Have you spoken to a well driller about the potential costs. We always ask neighbors nearby how deep there wells are, sit the water plentiful, and is it sweet or need to be treated for sulfur, iron, etc. Your videos sound as if you are kids in a candy store without revealing whether you have done any research that has been suggested by a number of people, or are you just that naive. Or, are just mining for UA-cam comments and such that will help your channel? You have mentioned nothing of any research from suggestions you received.
Really happy for you guys. Looking forward to what is to come.
Congratulations!! Can’t wait to see what y’all do!
Looks like a lot of locals have already commented, so this might be redundant. Please check for steep slope laws, easements/rights of way, and very importantly, does the land perk for septic, and average well pressure in the area for multiple living buildings. Good luck to you both and blessings in your adventure! ❤
Huge congratulations Jordan and Desiree, Esa and Scarlet and of course Oso. You guys will do wonderful things there - not least of which is the new baby. Best of everything to you. Dxx
Well, good luck with the property! A lot of good comments here, and good suggestions! Good luck with your new baby! How exciting. Never a dull moment with you guys! Thank you for the video.
With recent geo events, something to think about when building in a forest is fire retardant decking and metal fencing. You can also get these mesh overlays for your loft and basement vents. Something to think about - good luck guys
Yahoo!!!🎉 Beautiful property in a beautiful state!❤
I am a civil engineer in California and, I agree with the concerns everyone else has brought up but, I want to add the fire department requirements to the list also. They may make you improve your driveway to you main building site. I am not sure how wide you access road is, but they may want it widened and paved, could result in needing retaining walls. They will also probably have maximum slope requirements which could result in you having to use a grooved paved surface to get to your building site. In addition, once at your site you could have to provide a fire turn around, this eat up space. Just a few more things to investigate. I certainly wish you the best, you guys are a great family and are enjoyable to watch.
Congrats on making the first step to finding a lot and good luck on the next steps. Hope you are at a good spot in current time and have a second lovely bundle of joy in your arms.
Property looks good from the video and looks like you made a good decision. Offer stands to give you a free site survey so you can start your plan for the future. The first order of Buisness is to make sure the location is friendly to you even doing short term rentals. Some city’s are actively against it so clear that item before you close. Good luck.
You would want to check into rules regarding multiple houses on one piece of land, well and septic systems.
Sugestion Buy an Rv park or camp ground.
If they brought in dirt to level a slope, you have the risk of that all flowing down hill. Sometimes it looks great but when you core you find it is not packed. Then foundations have issues.
Congratulations and hopefully this all works out for your family 👍❤️
Exciting!! Can’t wait for the baby news 🎉❤
Jordan,
So much to consider. From a guy who bought 75 acres in NC and has been developing it for last several years, permitting permitting permitting. Water source, how far is the electric run. Take whatever time frame you have in mind and double it. Just saying. Love to talk to you about our challenges. In the end it will be worth it
You had my same thoughts…
They have no clue what they are getting into they are crazy
In addition to all other things mentioned by others.
fyi; some jurisdictions require build projects to be completed within time restraints.
Assuming you may have signed on the bottom line, I hope that your learning curve has excelled as there are so many bases to cover to protect yourselves on many levels, including not getting in over your head financially. A good realtor, lender, and architect can help guide you. Jordan, are you prepared to take a job if needed? A lot of responsibility. All the best and congratulations on the arrival of your new addition.
Lots of info in comments and I trust you and the realtor have done your homework.
This channel is getting better each episode. You guys have a FANTASTIC project.
Starting with RV hookups sounds like a good plan to generate income right away, while you build your AB&Bs
I'm so happy for you both, Isabella too. Her and her new sibling will have a lot of running space, a great town to go and so many fun places to spend time. I believe that is a great decision, it looks perfect.
I'm so glad you picked North Carolina. Welcome to my home state. I'm on the other end of the state, in New Bern, where you once came to look at a boat when you were searching for Atticus II (actually in my neighborhood.... Fairfield Harbour!). I desperately miss your sailing journey but I'm enjoying following along on this new part of your life. Crossing fingers that your offer gets accepted!
Certainly a lovely piece of land. Congratulation's on the decision and we all are wishing you the best with this life change.
I would prioritise getting a viable site for a home. It is so important to prioritise time with children, those early years are vital to ensuring they maximise their potential. It takes, time with parents, suitable balance of nursery, activities, music, sports, time with compatible children. Then you need time for each other. If the permits, soil, water, etc, are not in place then I would be looking for a conditional contract. The fees, consultants, surveys, additional works, engineering, roads, they all add up. Also it is vital to understand the control and responsibilities for maintenance of access roads, what happens when there is more development.
Wishing you well with your new addition to the family.
congratulations guys!!
If you need a loan to build, the land may need to be paid off. Check it out. What a big step!
Fingers crossed everything works out with this property!
Congratulations on finding the property of your choice. 😊😮🎉❤
Take a shot every time Jordan says property and you would be hammered after 5 minutes 🍾🍷
Congrats! Now the real work begins!!
Have you considered creating a tiny house community? They come fully self contained. You wil need to build roads and parking pads but they often use composting toilets so no septic. Great potential & steady income.
Speaking from an engineering perspective, please ask about the soil conditions and what potential engineered fill conditioning and/or foundation design considerations maybe be required for your structure type choice. Clayey soils typically require extra amendments effort and design considerations not to mention a need for effective drainage measures to avoid structural issues post construction.
So excited for you two.
As to the cemetery, our oldest daughter and her husband owned a place next to a cemetery. From experience, you know those neighbors will be quiet
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Congratulations - great video as always. There is a fellow in Wintergreen Va that bought some land, cleared it himself and used the trees to build an amazing inn - The Fenton Inn.
About 6 hours north of Bryson - think Will Fenton would be a great contact for you guys for insights on your project. Quite a renaissance fellow - probably worth a video just to visit.
Careful about planning multiple cabins. Most City/County Planning and Zoning Departments are going to have limits on the number of dwelling structures on a single property. Before buying anything, visit them to discuss your vision and see if it would cause any hangups. For example, in my county, you are limited to one single family dwelling plus one ADU up to 900sqft, but 5 cabins would be a no-go and require some sort of conditional use permit, with public hearings and stuff.
Congratulations!! Homestead on the way😁!!!.....Baby on the way!!.......Too bad you have so much free time....😂😅.....Best wishes with all the construction and production!!❤
When you get started, build the shop first. There ought to be companies in the area that advertise pole buildings. A good sized pole barn shop will have more use than you'll believe now and over the next 20 years.
I don't think that is too far from TOWN.... That area is growing / like most small towns and....will keep expanding all around the Town. (As you know...People are moving out of the Cities!)
Bryson.... Will turn into a small City....in your life time.
Glad you are not building close to a highway... the roads are only going to get busier and busier...as the area grows.
Do not forget snow.😮
Storms, weather pressure bombs , tornadoes, fires Quakes and hurricanes.. Flash Floods and access to roads schools and medical centers.
Orientate any structures to the Sun and the prevailing weather direction ...you can go two ways on that system 🧙🏼♂️ with the dominant passive winds or
to protect against the main storm directions.
BTW the British Isles have just gone through 100mph plus winds again ... and they still might not be finished.
As a Geologist and Environmental Scientists I would suggest you avoid most American vernacular construction on any site with an open aspect..
build for tomorrow's weather and environment not today's or yesterday's.
Insurance companies are simply saying no and pulling out of huge areas. And banks won't offer money on uninsured builds.
You can anchor ⚓ any storm stable structure on built up ground on a relatively small number of piles to create a floating platform if the clearing terrace is uncertain .
Great area!! Hope this works out for you all!!
New beginnings Family and Home. Love it ❤
Hope your neighbors are good neighbors! Also I would develop a privacy fence or push your build site as far as possible from other house. Good luck!
3:30 this is why in the mountains you will see houses that are built on pilings (stilts) so that it can be on a hill
Interesting picking out property; I always think about neighborhood and the essentials needed like water, electricity, sewage, what are the normal four seasons like, exciting to see your progress..
Congratulations you guys. I’m so happy for you.
That’s hometown of keeping a float with the Joneses. They live on a floating home on Lake Fontana. But someday they hope to have a sailboat. They also just bought a rental within Bryson city and are fixing it up to be an Airbnb.
9:44 - "brought in a ton of dirt" How clean? How well compacted? As a retired building inspector, I recommend soil test(s) before close of escrow. Here in SoCal, testing is required before building now (see Rancho Palos Verdes landslide area). Foundations CAN be engineered to fit most conditions, it's just a matter of at what cost. Make friends with local building officials as applicable.
I learned this the hard way. Had to install 30 helical piers that weren't in the budget. Like everyone here is saying, do your due diligence. Read ALL the zoning restrictions for your property. Sometimes you can get a variance for some deviations. Also, find out about any tree ordinances. We had to pay thousand just for permission to cut down our trees. I wish everybody had to build at least one house in their life just to see how difficult our governments sometimes make it.
Yes.... how clean? Soil test. / Gardening / growing your own food... in the future? Fruit / Nut Trees?
You need to hire a local builder type as a consultant. To make sure you can do what you are planning.
What are you going to do for employment.
Well of course this film was timed weeks ago if not months so for certain baby #2 has arrived. I can only wish you all the best moving forward on this home build. Lots of help/suggestions coming from your followers here. Hope you’ve done your homework as it sounds like there’s an emended amount of work to do. Maybe just take one project at a time.,not rush it all together and also check out your neighbors. Like seriously. Your property appears remote so hope you’ll receive all the help you can get. Take care!
I don't know you guys. I have never commented on what I think you should or shouldn't do, as I am not a sailor. However, the one thing I have been is a landlord. I would strongly caution you against this. As I am sure you have heard, it was an awful experience. It's cost me thousands of dollars and a major fight with the missus. You don't want it, trust me. The things they did to my houses... You have a youngster and another baby very soon. You are going to be busy with your kids and your actual home. I am not saying I don't do it. Just wait; it will be about 4 years when your kids are older and in school. Then, it's time to start that chapter. Get settled first. Get that foundation under you, then get into the tricky stuff. Best of luck, as always.
> J Neuel > You don't want IT, trust me (What?) > What WAS the Awful experience ? The business, rentals is the 'Tricky Stuff?"
Against What? This property ? / Building rentals or their home? The builders awful? / Building in the Hills?
Thousands of dollars for what? > Permits / building on a mountain?
Building / Renovated.... doing anything while looking after TWO young children. (one of you will be looking after the kids / the other outside building = Living Separate lives.
(My husband and I couldn't do it > No Time / Energy / or extra $ to pay someone else to do it.)
Moving to a new State / no family to help with babies / kids / building a home and a business. Yikes.
The Paperwork alone is time consuming. YT channel / editing. Yikes-Yikes.
You will not have the Time/energy to build things by yourselves. (The kids come first, or you will miss it) Find a local handyman that you can count on to help you out.
You need Cash....(you will have a huge mortgage. )
> You may have the Land....but no Water / Elec. / Roads / Septic / Landscaping. Etc. ( Can turn into ....Big bucks)
*Buying an old home with the Infrastructure in place...would save you...$75,000 (IDK) Even If you torn down the old building.
(When you are cash poor, it's so stressful) Building supplies have gone UP....Everything! You will need Twice as much $ as you think.
I don't think that is too far from TOWN.... Small towns are growing....it will keep expanding all around the Town.
It Will turn into a City....in your life time. ( Roads will keep getting busier and busier as the area grows) You don't want to hear that.
Good Luck.
@ Your tone is quite aggressive, sir. I am speaking of two homes I have owned and rented and a vacation rental. But hey, you sound right. Having two kids and a full-time job while being a landlord is a piece of cake. Everyone should do it.
Thousands of dollars in damages. Want an example? How about covering your walls in excrement when being evicted? Throwing trash and garbage all over your property so when you pull up, it smells like a landfill? Would you be doing that to my neighbors? Yeah, man, you're right. It's cheap. It's easy.
Wise advice. 👍
Building pads are not always able to be built on. In other words, you can't anchor if you can't reach the bottom. Bottom being load bearing soil.
If a steep slope is south facing you could look into an earthship.. easier on long term bills
I myself would never ever build on a slope. Like was said previous no way is that natural soil looks like fill. Also drainage and septic. Make darn sure that property Percs. Get that done before purchase. Also check zoning laws on how many structures you can build. Really close to the neighbors so they might not be keen to what you have planned either. You do not want a bad neighbor..I know people that do air bnb and they only rent for a few times every few months. It’s not consistent at all. There is very little money coming in for them. They are here in Washington and there is lots of things to see and do but the taxes here are insane.They are thinking of getting out..I myself have 30 rentals and my wife and I are managing them ourselves. I have seen it all good,bad,and worse tenants. People are pigs. If I knew then what I know now I would not become a landlord.oh and that red dirt that stuff is nasty. I helped my sister build a shop in Oklahoma and that’s nasty dirt gets in everything..
Red dirt. Ugh.
I agree.... "Really close to the neighbors so they might not be keen to what you have planned either." (Hopefully you Talked to them)
Top Priority >>> Plant a row of safe / but fast growing ....TREES! (Evergreen) Between you and your neighbors.
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IT GETS VERY EXPENSIVE BUILDING ON STEAP HILLS .
I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING BOTH
OF YOU FOR YEARS . I LIVE IN EAST TENNESSEE.
Good Luck! and God Bless!
Crazy In Maine you could get that same property for 60 or 80,000. Just have to deal with the snow in the winter. Great sailing in the summer.
Dude!! Your neighbors are right there beside you!! That's horribly close! And have you checked zoning laws for number of houses allowed??
Congrats on finding the property.
Congratulations on your New home site....Yeah!!!!
That's a really great property; you will save a ton of money because it is cleared and graded already. So exciting can't wait for you to build Atticus III 😁This is going to be great! Can't wait to watch future videos.
Looks good. You both look happier, and you have no crossing stress.
What's the SOIL boring report say?
Put your shop as a privacy barrier between yours and neighbor and orient house for solar panels
S m a r t !
And.....Plant a row of safe / but fast growing ....TREES! (Evergreen) Between you and your neighbors.
Hi, just remember that anything is possible with a positive attitude and you have what it takes to accomplish your dream.
Sterkte met die Nuwe baba ❤
Go to the Town Building Dept with questions, and get an outline of what this entails……
Well done. We relocated from Florida to NC
There is a reason previous owner bought the land, leveled it, then walked away. FIND OUT WHY.
Snow and ice are regular winter issues in that area. Also snakes and deer ticks. Ask locals, grocery store clerka and neighbors to get the full perspective.
Do not forget to evaluate the schools in the area since you have 2 little ones it will not be long to have to have them in school or homeschool. There are places you may not want to take your kids to school and homeschooling is not as easy as you think. There is a curriculum you have to follow and your kids will have to be proficient in their studies for their age.
Hope this all comes together.
Be fun to see what kind of home you plan to build.
A few thoughts: Make sure you check all the local building and road regulations. You're making a number of assumptions. i.e. I note the 'road' in is very basic. Will you be required to upgrade the road to engineering spec? I've heard of a few horror stories around here where the mandated road upgrades cost more than the land cost! We live rural in Australia and got this gem from our civil engineer. We had to upgrade our dirt road access before we could build. Cost: AU 40 grand .. and that was because it required minor construction. If you open commercial B n B, then you may be subjected to numbing compliance. Not raining on your parade but go in eyes wide open.
So very nice!! Congratulations ❤️
Welcome to NC! So happy to be your future neighbor! 😍
We're in Colorado on 7 acres and none of it is useful for other than skiing in the winter.
Excited for you guys
Bravo❣️Congratulations 🤗😎👍🏻♥️🙏🏻
Congrats and good luck✌️💙
great piece of land, good price, congrats, happy for ya
Bryson City is the home of a fellow You Tuber, custom home builder "Perkins Builder Brothers".
I never cease to be amazed at how much land/home prices have inflated. I bought my 9.5 acres with home and 24x48 pole barn in north-central Ohio for just $53,000 in 1988. I really don't know how most people get by today with current prices.
Perhaps try to fit in a few spots for RV’s to start generating some income. My sense of things is it may be a less expensive way to get started.
Congratulations on your new home! I was hoping you would pick Bryson City! I think it is such a cute mountain town! I grew up rafting the Nantahala River every summer. There's so much to do in that area. I will definitely rent out one of your Airbnbs even if I have to drive through a cemetery. lol Hey, at least you'll have quite neighbors! I wish your family all the best of luck in your new adventure! Can't wait to see baby Scarlett!
are you also checking into if the land will accommodate septic?
lol so many folk giving helpful advice before you buy-nice, but this video was clearly shot months ago in the fall, before the leaves all dropped & winter set in.