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The Immersive Ear Training series is helping me so much !! I feel I am becoming so much better at understanding notes and intervals. Thank you so much for these videos!
Thanks Max! Here goes! Day 1: 30 mins in 2 sessions. Flat 3 actually started really strong. Similar vibe to major 3 just a bit sadder. Flat 6 and 7 are a mess for me. But I also have a hard time just singing a natural minor scale. I always want to go harmonic on it. I need to solidify those 2 notes in my brain. 1,2,4,5 are all strong.
Day 2: 30 mins in 2 session. Still a long way to go on the flat notes. They really stand out as foreign after doing the major scale ones for so long but hard to really identify what they are.
Day 3: 30 mins in 2 sessions. Spent some extra time at the piano singing and playing this scale a lot. Really helped figure out the b6 a lot better. Still a long way to go but it at least has a home in the scale in my brain now.
Wonderful! I have been excitedly waiting for the minor scale video the whole week! What is the rough timeframe on the release of the app? Will it be available in a the coming months or will it take until next year? I can't wait! Keep up the good work!
Maybe I did too much interval training in the past but when I hear say b3 for example, I count down in the scale "b3 - 2 - 1" or a b6 I will count up "b6-b7-1." This happens quite quickly like in the time in takes for you to reveal the answer so it works here. However with a real song I struggle a lot, is this perhaps because I'm not focusing on the FEELING as much as relying on that quick method of figuring the interval? Or is this an ok way and I will just get faster to the point it doesn't really matter and the feeling will take precedent? I hope that makes sense. THANKS for all you do it's been amazing. Can't wait for the app.
It is crazy how different the scale degrees 5, 2 and 4 sound/feel compared to Major mode. - Half of the time I immediately recognise the 4 as a dominant sus4 chord that wants to resolve as 4 - 3 - 2 - 3 (with Major 3rd) - but staying in dominant and not wanting to resolve as the leading tone to the tonic 1. - The other time I didn't recognise the 4 at all. I didn't get a wrong answer; there simply was no answer in my head. It requires a lot of humming of many of the notes to verify them. But it's really hard to be able to hum them. Hitting the notes is so strange when there is the drone as the tonal center, even if in interval ear training it is easy to recognise b3 b6 b7 b10 and even b13 b14. But it seems that humming leads to rapid progress. In other words: this exercise seems very effective for me, just what I was waiting for. And I'm looking forward to exercises that include b2 and #4.
Now, some hours later - initially with headphones, meanwhile with built-in speaker of the tablet - it's getting faster and faster. 90% correct within the given time, many immediately. Some hesitant. Some high-pitched notes wrong, so I repeat each of them several times after its predecessor to get to know them better.
Day 3: 25 minute session. Only noted down the last 11 minutes 1:✅❌✅✅✅✅✅✅❌❌✅❌✅ 2: ✅✅✅❌❌❌❌❌ b3:✅✅✅✅✅❌❌ 4:❌❌❌➖❌❌❌➖❌➖ 5:❌❌✅❌❌✅ b6:➖➖✅❌➖ b7:❌✅❌❌➖✅❌❌ 4 is actually the hardest one for me so far. I kept mixing up 1&5 when it was a higher octave. The ➖ meant I just didn’t answer and I was trying to internalize. b6 was harder today for whatever reason 🤷🏻♂️ Sometimes when the b2 and b7 are low octaves and close to the tonic they sound more dissonant and I’m not sure which one is correct.
Day4: Only managed to do 5 minutes before falling asleep. Had a long day, but happy I decided to still try at the end of the day. Will do a Longer Session for day 5
Man would be cool if you can have minor scale with the normal scale degree as well, from 6 to 6. Maybe in a video just like this except with chord progressions
@@maxkonyi Well if the drone were like a bass player that can play a new bass note, and cause 1234567 to all feel different. With being able to change the drone note and keep the same scale degrees, you can imitate exactly how a song with chord progressions work, and not have to have a new note 1 for every chord change.
This is a muscle memory issue, hand ear coordination problem. Most people don’t realize that playing by ear requires more than just your ears. It’s actually two steps: A. What your ears hear B. Being able too find and knowing where the notes are at on your instrument. These are two separate skill sets and there is also a third step involved but it comes later.. Go check out Corey Henrys muscle memory exercises here on YT!
In actual music, there are many factors coming together which make things more difficult. In particular, having changing harmony/chords means that you might hear a note as being relative to the current chord instead of relative to the key. Start by hearing the melody, pausing the music, singing it back and slowly working out the scale degrees by feeling like with a drone. Once you get the right answer, listen again to the music with that knowledge in mind and keep track of the degrees. Repeat this and you'll find it becomes easier.
@@maxkonyiI mean different tonics. Another issue I have is that sometimes I mistakenly think the relative interval of two notes is the answer. Say the first one is a 2 and the following one is also a 2 but an octave above, I may think the second note is a 1 instead of 2. (Maybe I did too much relative pitch exercise in the past 😅) Looking forward to the release of the app btw. I’ve been practising with this video every day
@@strangerting7818 Yeah I know what you mean... there are all sorts of difficulties that arise in this stuff. Persitence and patience will sort them out...for the most part. Personally, I don't have any more difficulty with one tonic over another unless my mind does not swap the feeling of tonic onto the new drone and instead hears it as a scale degree in the previous key.
Anyone else find the minor scale easier than the major? There's something so unique about the flat 3 and 6. I think I may just enjoy the minor scale more. So moody haha
@@user-zn2ze2cx1o The point is to become familiar with the feeling states of each note (degree) within a key. Each scale degree feels a particular way when you hear it and this is true in all keys. This exercise plays the degree for you, says which number it is, and then plays it again to confirm. The point is to connect the feeling of the scale degrees to the numbers so that when one occurs, the other comes to mind
This video is a direct recording of my Sonofield Ear Trainer mobile app running in its "Pocket Mode", which enables hands-free training while you walk, commute, or relax. Sign-up here to be notified when SET releases for iOS and Android: www.sonic-sorcery.com/set
Your channel is the sickest thing ever. I can’t believe it isn’t more popular.
The Immersive Ear Training series is helping me so much !! I feel I am becoming so much better at understanding notes and intervals. Thank you so much for these videos!
That's great! Thanks for letting me know 🌞
Train your ears while meditating... This is amazing. With that lovely drone in the background. That's some useful asmr stuff. Love it.
Best ear training vdo on earth
Thank you for these! I've got these on repeat in my car when I'm driving in to work.
i just got highs and though of the exact same idea for a channel, keep it up bro you gonna go big with this quality
Best ear training on yt! Literally watch this entire vid 🔥🔥🔥
Such a simple yet well designed training. Super nice channel as well. Very very good work, thank you
This is so difficult. Thanks so much for making it that way.
Great, I‘ve been hoping for this one!
Max, this is wavy fr fr 🔥.
Cant wait for the release
Yes! Been waiting for this! 🙏🏻
Bellissimo , posso studiare mentre lavo i piatti... grazie 🙏 🙏 🙏 ❤❤❤
Thanks for making this video. It helps me alot.
Thanks Max! Here goes!
Day 1: 30 mins in 2 sessions. Flat 3 actually started really strong. Similar vibe to major 3 just a bit sadder. Flat 6 and 7 are a mess for me. But I also have a hard time just singing a natural minor scale. I always want to go harmonic on it. I need to solidify those 2 notes in my brain. 1,2,4,5 are all strong.
Nice! Good to hear
Guna join you in journaling. I’ve been practicing often but not consistently everyday
Day 2: 30 mins in 2 session. Still a long way to go on the flat notes. They really stand out as foreign after doing the major scale ones for so long but hard to really identify what they are.
Day 3: 30 mins in 2 sessions. Spent some extra time at the piano singing and playing this scale a lot. Really helped figure out the b6 a lot better. Still a long way to go but it at least has a home in the scale in my brain now.
Day 4: 30 mins in 2 sessions. Long way to go! Thought I was getting somewhere but lots of confusion today.
Thank you so much!! These videos mean a lot to me and I find your explanations of ear training to be the most comprehensive 💪🏻
Must have for ear training, thank you man
Wonderful! I have been excitedly waiting for the minor scale video the whole week!
What is the rough timeframe on the release of the app? Will it be available in a the coming months or will it take until next year? I can't wait!
Keep up the good work!
Glad you like it! App will be ready in the next month or two. Going into beta right now...
Maybe I did too much interval training in the past but when I hear say b3 for example, I count down in the scale "b3 - 2 - 1" or a b6 I will count up "b6-b7-1." This happens quite quickly like in the time in takes for you to reveal the answer so it works here.
However with a real song I struggle a lot, is this perhaps because I'm not focusing on the FEELING as much as relying on that quick method of figuring the interval? Or is this an ok way and I will just get faster to the point it doesn't really matter and the feeling will take precedent? I hope that makes sense. THANKS for all you do it's been amazing. Can't wait for the app.
Awesome!!! 🎉🎉🎉 Thank you!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Could you please give us the other scales of music like this? I really love your helps for musicians. God bless you!
Chromatic scale coming soon. Also, the actual app is in beta right now and will soon be released. Then you can use any scale you want!
@@maxkonyi cheers!
It is crazy how different the scale degrees 5, 2 and 4 sound/feel compared to Major mode.
- Half of the time I immediately recognise the 4 as a dominant sus4 chord that wants to resolve as 4 - 3 - 2 - 3 (with Major 3rd) - but staying in dominant and not wanting to resolve as the leading tone to the tonic 1.
- The other time I didn't recognise the 4 at all. I didn't get a wrong answer; there simply was no answer in my head.
It requires a lot of humming of many of the notes to verify them. But it's really hard to be able to hum them. Hitting the notes is so strange when there is the drone as the tonal center, even if in interval ear training it is easy to recognise b3 b6 b7 b10 and even b13 b14. But it seems that humming leads to rapid progress.
In other words: this exercise seems very effective for me, just what I was waiting for. And I'm looking forward to exercises that include b2 and #4.
Now, some hours later - initially with headphones, meanwhile with built-in speaker of the tablet - it's getting faster and faster. 90% correct within the given time, many immediately. Some hesitant. Some high-pitched notes wrong, so I repeat each of them several times after its predecessor to get to know them better.
@@uwose Good to hear!
Nice! I really like the calm vibe, it's a great atmosphere for learning ear training. Will there also be chords?
Sonofield can't do chords (at least not yet). I have plans for chord-related videos but they will be something different from this.
Day 3 and I’m getting it more and more :)
PS: Week 2 and this still kicking my butt. But less and less each day.
👇Restarting and journaling below
Day 1: b6 is the easiest to hear so far. Struggling with 4, b7, 2. I tend to get b3 half the time. Higher octaves are much more difficult.
Day 2: b6 still the easiest. Managed to get 4 a little more this time around. Still tough tho
Day 3: 25 minute session. Only noted down the last 11 minutes
1:✅❌✅✅✅✅✅✅❌❌✅❌✅
2: ✅✅✅❌❌❌❌❌
b3:✅✅✅✅✅❌❌
4:❌❌❌➖❌❌❌➖❌➖
5:❌❌✅❌❌✅
b6:➖➖✅❌➖
b7:❌✅❌❌➖✅❌❌
4 is actually the hardest one for me so far. I kept mixing up 1&5 when it was a higher octave. The ➖ meant I just didn’t answer and I was trying to internalize. b6 was harder today for whatever reason 🤷🏻♂️
Sometimes when the b2 and b7 are low octaves and close to the tonic they sound more dissonant and I’m not sure which one is correct.
Day4: Only managed to do 5 minutes before falling asleep. Had a long day, but happy I decided to still try at the end of the day. Will do a Longer Session for day 5
Day 5: 30 minutes (2, 15 minute sessions)
1:✅✅✅❌✅✅❌
2: ❌✅➖❌❌❌➖✅➖✅❌
b3:❌❌❌❌✅✅❌❌❌➖❌
4:✅➖❌❌❌❌❌❌❌➖✅❌❌❌
5:✅✅❌✅✅➖➖✅✅
b6:❌❌✅❌✅➖✅✅❌✅❌
b7:➖❌✅➖➖❌➖❌❌❌➖
Felt terrible at it today. :( hopefully tomrw is better
Man would be cool if you can have minor scale with the normal scale degree as well, from 6 to 6. Maybe in a video just like this except with chord progressions
I guess if in the app you can keep the narration without flatted notes then just change the drone to enter a new mode, then that would be perfect.
Not sure what you mean exactly...
@@maxkonyi Well if the drone were like a bass player that can play a new bass note, and cause 1234567 to all feel different. With being able to change the drone note and keep the same scale degrees, you can imitate exactly how a song with chord progressions work, and not have to have a new note 1 for every chord change.
@@jasensargent2245 Ah ok, I understand. Yeah that's an interesting idea for sure. I'll have to give it some thought.. Thanks!
Heya, does pocket mode allow you to set the length of time before your voice tells you the answer?
Indeed!
LETS GO
Thanku sir I have a question
I can identify notes by listening
But while actual music I can not find notes by ear and tonic
This is a muscle memory issue, hand ear coordination problem. Most people don’t realize that playing by ear requires more than just your ears. It’s actually two steps:
A. What your ears hear
B. Being able too find and knowing where the notes are at on your instrument.
These are two separate skill sets and there is also a third step involved but it comes later..
Go check out Corey Henrys muscle memory exercises here on YT!
I cant actually find this, whats the name of the video? @mrquick6775
In actual music, there are many factors coming together which make things more difficult. In particular, having changing harmony/chords means that you might hear a note as being relative to the current chord instead of relative to the key. Start by hearing the melody, pausing the music, singing it back and slowly working out the scale degrees by feeling like with a drone. Once you get the right answer, listen again to the music with that knowledge in mind and keep track of the degrees. Repeat this and you'll find it becomes easier.
I can't find those muscle memory exercises. Can you link them? @@mrquick6775
D1: 17/30
D6: 16/30 24/30 25/30
D7: 18/20 24/30 20/30
D8: 26/30 24/30 23/30
D9: 23/30 18/30 28/30
D10 : 23/30 26/30 20/30
is the one Eb? doesn't sound one on the piano ?
The key changes every few minutes, so the 1 does not stay static for the whole video.
I find some keys much harder than the others. What does it mean ?
You mean certain numbers/scale degrees are harder than others? Or actually certain keys as in different tonics are harder than others?
@@maxkonyiI mean different tonics.
Another issue I have is that sometimes I mistakenly think the relative interval of two notes is the answer. Say the first one is a 2 and the following one is also a 2 but an octave above, I may think the second note is a 1 instead of 2. (Maybe I did too much relative pitch exercise in the past 😅)
Looking forward to the release of the app btw. I’ve been practising with this video every day
@@strangerting7818 Yeah I know what you mean... there are all sorts of difficulties that arise in this stuff. Persitence and patience will sort them out...for the most part.
Personally, I don't have any more difficulty with one tonic over another unless my mind does not swap the feeling of tonic onto the new drone and instead hears it as a scale degree in the previous key.
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Anyone else find the minor scale easier than the major? There's something so unique about the flat 3 and 6. I think I may just enjoy the minor scale more. So moody haha
I dont understand the logic
Of the exercise in general?
@@maxkonyiYes.
@@user-zn2ze2cx1o The point is to become familiar with the feeling states of each note (degree) within a key. Each scale degree feels a particular way when you hear it and this is true in all keys. This exercise plays the degree for you, says which number it is, and then plays it again to confirm. The point is to connect the feeling of the scale degrees to the numbers so that when one occurs, the other comes to mind
@@maxkonyi not easy