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Have you guys checked out the PC game Nebulous: Fleet Command? Their ships I think fit in with a lot of the thoughts you all have shared over the years.
@@shayminthedoctor9663 Oh for sure, it is really early on! I've just been enjoying the heck out of what they do have so far. Really looking forward to the other factions and the campaign mode.
Cube function Vs Sphere function My theory Spheres are long-range scout ships that search unexplored regions of space capturing and assimilating vessels to determine a species’ worthiness of assimilation. Once it has been determined that they are and their home planet has been discovered, a cube is sent to assimilate the homeworld. Cubes are dreadnought invasion-force ships that assimilate planets.
I think in this case, the Flood wins. The borg excel at taking over sentient biomass, and technology. The flood is neither of those things that the borg like to deal with. And as another person points out - there exist biologicals that are resistant to the Borg (namely 8472.) The question is - is the flood? And I would say yes. Given both the Forerunnners, and Pre-History Technologically Ascendant humanity weren't able to deal with the flood with any known conventional methods. Only depriving the Flood of it's food source can slow it down. Additionally, we've seen the Flood is capable of 'infiltrating' and infecting technology. So...I think the Borg just loses this one.
The flood, hands down. The borg are mighty powerful, but can be beaten in open combat. The flood require galactic devestation to be defeated once they start snowballing. The flood can probably assimilate the borg more easily than the borg can assimilate the flood.
I’ll be blunt. I am here for the space dock stuff. I don’t follow Sojourn, but I do appreciate the designs as they are quite good. I think that the ship breakdowns are appropriate for this channel. Throw a disclaimer up and hype up your stuff a bit. If it becomes like 90% your own designs, might start to have a problem with that, but honestly I would just skip those videos.
I was somewhat reminded of Perry Rohdan ships with the sphere as it was one of the first sci-fi series I read. Wonder if you know it, very long running print series and has some insane blueprints for the ships.
I suppose it's unlikely to support a video because there aren't any pictures, but the Borg Sphere reminds me of the General Products Type 4 hull from Larry Niven's Known Space and Man-Kzin Wars serieses. The most important one of its type was the Long Shot.
After successfully having stopped the Borg Queen, General Korok hailed Voyager to ask if they would like a "lift" back to the alpha quadrant from their transwarp equipped sphere..... no no no. Started a Borg Civil war.... uh yeah.
Oh my gosh.. this is absolutely amazing!! Your attention to detail and bringing emphasis to even the smallest parts was really well done.. honestly,tremendous work...my dream is for a life size upper torso borg queen dock for my Google hub.. honestly to say HEY GOOGLE, and have it light up and respond?????OH IM SALIVATING🤣🤣
Love your videos, follow you for a couple years now. I wonder if you have ever considered doing one about any of the Perry Rhodan iconic ships? Would love to see you referrencing what they inspired. Stay great, good work as always.
I like it. They needed a little variety. They also need a cone and then they'll all the classic Bauhaus solids. Maybe it's just as well. Designers might take it as a negative comment rather than a cheeky reference.
This being sci-fi, it would be easy to hand wave the explanation. "Oh, we've discovered that the borg incorporate a powerful defensive matrix into their cubes that their spheres don't have. It's called the Central Digit Projector, but the science team has taken to calling it 'The Middle Finger' for short. The middle finger projects a powerful shield slightly past its own edges, but unfortunately the design only works in the shape of a cube, so the borg make their ships in the shape of a cube as a result, with the middle finger formed around the outside" Boom, done
in STO these damn things are my bain, cbes even tactical cubes are no real problem but as Spheres tend to show up in 3s (normally alongside a Cube's) they can trash me if im not super careful.
The Borg just nonchalantly using time travel is such a Pandoras Box off loopholes and crap. Like why don't they just send a sphere with the latest technology back in time 100 years to their own collective to boost its tech. Then just keep doing it over and over? It'd be like save scumming a 4x strategy game. Maybe the time cops would stop them? Didn't stop that sphere in First Contact.
That's the problem with time travel that most writers don't think about. It's also why time travel is almost strictly prohibited in writing. I watched a video about time travel methods a few years ago, all based on the consequences of said time travel. The type of time travel least likely to create problems is when time traveler goes back in time, an entire new time line begins and everything after their arrival completely changes their past. If a person goes forward in time, things change. When they go back to their past, they can, as long as they don't go past the moment they left for the future, yet their very return changes the future that they returned from. (Example: Marvel's End Game) The second version, is a single time line that has time travel take affect immediately... that there is no difference from going to the past nor the future, as all changes are taken into account and are changed retroactively throughout the timeline. (Example: Harry Potter, Back to the Future) The third version is that all changes in the timeline create a new time line, yet if one knows where the divergence is, they can travel between time lines. This "Fixes" the problems with second type, but it creates many other problems. (Example: Star Trek) Time paradoxes, and unforeseen continuity problems are magnified with the last two types compared to the first; but all are fraught with paradoxes. *Sigh* I butchered the video's explanation. I hope you understood what I attempted to communicate.
it also make no sense from the borg pov to even go back in time and prevent the federation from existing, it erases all the technologies they want to assimilate, and the fact resistance is futile and eventually the borg be able to steam roll federation into the collective, where it takes few years or ten thousand is irrelevant
Considering the Borg are/were the most advanced “civilization” in Star Trek, there’s a possibility that it actually exists somewhere in the Galaxy in real life. A cybernetic race taken over by their own machines is terrifying.
I'd argue in many ways we already are taken over by our technology... just, that the technology takes over society and minds rather than bodies... whether that is a bad thing, well... I can see both arguments here.....
Not your fault, great vid, but everytime I see footage from Voyager and they show internal shots of Borg ships and they have touch panels and interfaces.....for a hive mind, subspace mental linked, cyborg species...Ugh, I just bang my head trying to forget how Voyager ruined the Borg. Just so much stupid....
Spacedock 5 years ago you made a ship breakdown of the Tempest from the MMORPG Eve online I wonder if you could check it out and see if the ship class and the role they play make sense to you.. And yes they have Dreadnought but these guys are Capital design for fighting against other capital, super capital and station. But they can be destroyed by sub-capital ship if they have numbers while they themself will have a very low chance of destroying the smaller ship due to the turret poor tracking. I do think your gonna approve of the concept ideal they thought for them
Cause movie reasons. First Contact has many many 'because movie reasons', but still makes it an entertaining watch. Atleast the Enterprise wasn't the 'only ship in the quadrant'.
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Any plans on a breakdown of the Raven? If there's enough info
All in all, a well rounded design, I would say :3
you could say they had a BALL of a time designing it
a true MARBLE of engineering
I sphere what you did there.
These comments are just going in circles.
Such circular logic
I feel like the Sojurn ship breakdowns still have a place on this channel.
A ship breakdown is a ship breakdown, right?
“Any ship, any sci-fi.”
Have you guys checked out the PC game Nebulous: Fleet Command? Their ships I think fit in with a lot of the thoughts you all have shared over the years.
Yeah, it's early access but lots of promise. Spacedock should really take a look.
Yeah, once the game picks up some more steam they really should take a look
A bit more lore needs to be done though
Well, if anything, I just checked it out and liked what I saw, so you got a random internet stranger's interest at least
@@shayminthedoctor9663 Oh for sure, it is really early on! I've just been enjoying the heck out of what they do have so far. Really looking forward to the other factions and the campaign mode.
Cube function Vs Sphere function
My theory
Spheres are long-range scout ships that search unexplored regions of space capturing and assimilating vessels to determine a species’ worthiness of assimilation. Once it has been determined that they are and their home planet has been discovered, a cube is sent to assimilate the homeworld.
Cubes are dreadnought invasion-force ships that assimilate planets.
You forgot the ending, where the enhanced Voyager rode inside one through a TWC all the way back home and then blasted its way out lol
I have been thinking here recently... Borg vs Flood, who wins?
The flood might be like species 8472. Depends if the borg could assimilate them.
The flood is like a completely organic version of Borg
I think in this case, the Flood wins. The borg excel at taking over sentient biomass, and technology. The flood is neither of those things that the borg like to deal with. And as another person points out - there exist biologicals that are resistant to the Borg (namely 8472.) The question is - is the flood? And I would say yes. Given both the Forerunnners, and Pre-History Technologically Ascendant humanity weren't able to deal with the flood with any known conventional methods. Only depriving the Flood of it's food source can slow it down.
Additionally, we've seen the Flood is capable of 'infiltrating' and infecting technology. So...I think the Borg just loses this one.
The flood, hands down. The borg are mighty powerful, but can be beaten in open combat. The flood require galactic devestation to be defeated once they start snowballing.
The flood can probably assimilate the borg more easily than the borg can assimilate the flood.
Check out eckhart's ladders video on the subject
Dude, sojourn BELONGS here. It is similar crystal clear sci-fi vesel porn, as the Expanse ships...
I’ll be blunt.
I am here for the space dock stuff. I don’t follow Sojourn, but I do appreciate the designs as they are quite good. I think that the ship breakdowns are appropriate for this channel. Throw a disclaimer up and hype up your stuff a bit. If it becomes like 90% your own designs, might start to have a problem with that, but honestly I would just skip those videos.
I mean they clearly said they are moving it all, to its own channel and are only advertising here.
The Borg also reused the basic design in various sizes, known as a A, B, C, D, and the dreaded E sphere.
Suprisingly I actually do have a girlfriend.
@@casbot71"resistance is futile" is an irresistible chat up line.
I was somewhat reminded of Perry Rohdan ships with the sphere as it was one of the first sci-fi series I read. Wonder if you know it, very long running print series and has some insane blueprints for the ships.
I suppose it's unlikely to support a video because there aren't any pictures, but the Borg Sphere reminds me of the General Products Type 4 hull from Larry Niven's Known Space and Man-Kzin Wars serieses. The most important one of its type was the Long Shot.
After successfully having stopped the Borg Queen, General Korok hailed Voyager to ask if they would like a "lift" back to the alpha quadrant from their transwarp equipped sphere..... no no no. Started a Borg Civil war.... uh yeah.
Good video. It’d be interesting to see Discovery give an update on the Borg post-Burn next season.
I’d forgotten how big the spheres were.
On TV they don't appear as big as they should be. Especially in Voyager they don't look like they are more than twice the size of Voyager...
@@EarMaster55 Mostly it was because of how it was done in First Contact, where there was no frame of reference.
So I just played Battlezone 2 for the first time, and hearing that its main menu music is your opening theme blew my mind
Battlezone 1's soundtrack was written by the guy from Anthrax.
These new effects really look cool
Good video! Short and to the point!
Oh my gosh.. this is absolutely amazing!! Your attention to detail and bringing emphasis to even the smallest parts was really well done.. honestly,tremendous work...my dream is for a life size upper torso borg queen dock for my Google hub.. honestly to say HEY GOOGLE, and have it light up and respond?????OH IM SALIVATING🤣🤣
And we're not even talking about how dangerous Spheres have become in Star Trek Online.
Love your videos, follow you for a couple years now. I wonder if you have ever considered doing one about any of the Perry Rhodan iconic ships? Would love to see you referrencing what they inspired.
Stay great, good work as always.
Excellent topic
Have you done an episode about different ways to travel faster than light speed in different Sci-Fi yet?
When I heard the name Outrider, my mind bring memories of Saber Rider and the Star Sheriff. The bad guys are called the Outrider too.
and subscribed to Sojourn channel...
Doesn’t look like a sphere. Looks more like and oblate spheroid.
i hope your doing okay space dock i just wonder if you could do andromeda class space battleship in future videos
I'd like to see how the Predators from the Predator movies would be like in Star Wars. In a space fight or on land.
You know I would love to see battletech ships to get some love. Plus some anime ship as well, especially from the gundam universes.
I like it. They needed a little variety. They also need a cone and then they'll all the classic Bauhaus solids. Maybe it's just as well. Designers might take it as a negative comment rather than a cheeky reference.
Have you ever heard of the xeelee sequence?
All borg ships should've been spheres, since they are oh-so-rational and sphere has the best ratio surface to internal volume.
I think a cube better conveys the rigid conformity and artificial nature of the Borg.
The developers feared that big Spheres would look to much like the Death Star.
This being sci-fi, it would be easy to hand wave the explanation.
"Oh, we've discovered that the borg incorporate a powerful defensive matrix into their cubes that their spheres don't have. It's called the Central Digit Projector, but the science team has taken to calling it 'The Middle Finger' for short.
The middle finger projects a powerful shield slightly past its own edges, but unfortunately the design only works in the shape of a cube, so the borg make their ships in the shape of a cube as a result, with the middle finger formed around the outside"
Boom, done
@@laniakea6588 And testicles when in fleets.
Though the cube is the most efficient in terms of volume.
Resistance is futile! More Borg! Great video, thank you!!
in STO these damn things are my bain, cbes even tactical cubes are no real problem but as Spheres tend to show up in 3s (normally alongside a Cube's) they can trash me if im not super careful.
It's the seriously overpowered Tachyon Beams, just tears your shields off while they throw plasma at you.
muy bueno
I'm thinking about it aren't there cubes on spheres? So you could say that you have a whole bunch of squares that make a circle?
Love your content
I dont know if you just do tv/game ships but could I recommend Rama from Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke
But, but, but, Soujourn IS Spacedock! 🥺
The Borg is one of the greatest threats in the Star Trek Universe.
Question can do no battlestar galactica warships ie others then the battlestars
Could you please make a video of unimatrix 0 I mean the huge place where borg queen lives ???in star trek Voyager
Could u make the Information at the bottom Bigger like in ur old Videos in was better in my eyes
The Borg aren't ones to cut corners with their ship capabilities
Think the Borg problem needs to be done with.
Nice use of Startrek online music.
Is the whole of March now April 1st?
Just checking…..
I have to wonder why the Borg didn't send a tactical cube to assimilate Earth.
And a pain in the Arse In CSE 🙂
The Borg just nonchalantly using time travel is such a Pandoras Box off loopholes and crap. Like why don't they just send a sphere with the latest technology back in time 100 years to their own collective to boost its tech. Then just keep doing it over and over? It'd be like save scumming a 4x strategy game.
Maybe the time cops would stop them? Didn't stop that sphere in First Contact.
That's the problem with time travel that most writers don't think about. It's also why time travel is almost strictly prohibited in writing.
I watched a video about time travel methods a few years ago, all based on the consequences of said time travel.
The type of time travel least likely to create problems is when time traveler goes back in time, an entire new time line begins and everything after their arrival completely changes their past. If a person goes forward in time, things change. When they go back to their past, they can, as long as they don't go past the moment they left for the future, yet their very return changes the future that they returned from. (Example: Marvel's End Game)
The second version, is a single time line that has time travel take affect immediately... that there is no difference from going to the past nor the future, as all changes are taken into account and are changed retroactively throughout the timeline. (Example: Harry Potter, Back to the Future)
The third version is that all changes in the timeline create a new time line, yet if one knows where the divergence is, they can travel between time lines. This "Fixes" the problems with second type, but it creates many other problems. (Example: Star Trek)
Time paradoxes, and unforeseen continuity problems are magnified with the last two types compared to the first; but all are fraught with paradoxes.
*Sigh* I butchered the video's explanation. I hope you understood what I attempted to communicate.
This is where the people who say ENT started an entire new timeline start chiming in...
it also make no sense from the borg pov to even go back in time and prevent the federation from existing, it erases all the technologies they want to assimilate, and the fact resistance is futile and eventually the borg be able to steam roll federation into the collective, where it takes few years or ten thousand is irrelevant
@@sword4005 Still a good movie tho
Could you do a short video about the Horizon zero dawn metal devil???
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Okay so...if the Borg captured voth ships...how do you fight that??
Well, there's some commentary about that in STO...
Considering the Borg are/were the most advanced “civilization” in Star Trek, there’s a possibility that it actually exists somewhere in the Galaxy in real life. A cybernetic race taken over by their own machines is terrifying.
I'd argue in many ways we already are taken over by our technology... just, that the technology takes over society and minds rather than bodies... whether that is a bad thing, well... I can see both arguments here.....
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 Twitter:Am I a JOKE to you?
Imagine if spacedock did an April fools joke video on the little Einsteins rocket
Bring it on!
MOAR Borg plz 🤩
Ah the Borg sphere, the Death Star for the sophisticated sci-fi enthusiast. 🤦♂️
The music was a bit distracting in this video
They made spheres I thought they only made cubes
And then in Star Trek online they are basically cannon fodder.
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NICE
Resistance is *not* futile.
And Korok never offered to give Voyager a ride back home? Rude.
He's a Klingon, not Voyager's Uber driver.
Looks Like the death star for some reason
Is than an Essex accent?
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Not your fault, great vid, but everytime I see footage from Voyager and they show internal shots of Borg ships and they have touch panels and interfaces.....for a hive mind, subspace mental linked, cyborg species...Ugh, I just bang my head trying to forget how Voyager ruined the Borg. Just so much stupid....
why don't you make videos with starcraft series
Spacedock 5 years ago you made a ship breakdown of the Tempest from the MMORPG Eve online I wonder if you could check it out and see if the ship class and the role they play make sense to you..
And yes they have Dreadnought but these guys are Capital design for fighting against other capital, super capital and station. But they can be destroyed by sub-capital ship if they have numbers while they themself will have a very low chance of destroying the smaller ship due to the turret poor tracking.
I do think your gonna approve of the concept ideal they thought for them
Borg? Sounds Swedish!
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"tempohral" that pronounciation sound so weird.
Wierd but your Spacedock logo looks very similar to Destiny 2's Rasputin/Warmind logo...
Why they time travel on Earth orbit rather than you know, any other place where a federation Starship did not know they are time travelling?
Cause movie reasons. First Contact has many many 'because movie reasons', but still makes it an entertaining watch. Atleast the Enterprise wasn't the 'only ship in the quadrant'.
@@Tuning3434 But this is Spacedock mission. Give movie reasons a logic explanation.
@@PhantomHarlock78 They don't have any logic explaination, stop asking questions and enjoy the movie.
Was gud
It's a copy of the death star
And the Death Star is a copy of Perry Rhodan