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Spacedock breaks down three of the less common vessels of the Borg Collective #startrek
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You forgot the borg ship we see in the last season of Picard.
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@@dennishall3469 I tend to phrase it as "non-consensual PVP." And yeah, that's a good description of the game. Might have been interesting without the PVP. Alas.
Cool that the Borg probe which is basically a disposable scout craft with like 8 crew can match a top end federation warship one on one
Stuff like this is why they are one of my favorite species in Star Trek. Really fits the eldritch abomination feel they have. Like any time you escape them it’s either by the skin of your teeth or because they let you go.
The Intrepid isn't a top end warship, though. That'd be something like the Akira or Defiant.
The Intrepid class mainly a scout ship, relying on its engines instead of weapons to survive.
I figured that it was established Voyager had been highly modified and upgraded by that point of the show. Janeway has that line about their crazy big boomer weapons then they pull a Stargate and beam a nuke on board lol
My understanding is the Intrepid class was a ruggedized science and exploration vessel designed for areas that you wouldn't want to send your regular survey ships. Long range survey and exploration of hazardous regions of space (such as the Briar Patch). The ship was probably green lit because the demands of this role are very closely aligned with the demands of "forward fleet recon". It's not designed to slug it out with anything, but it is designed to be able to survive stumbling onto a dangerous spatial anomaly (such as a Romulan Warbird), and escaping (Intrepid is very fast).
Federation leadership sees a ship finally able to answer questions about known navigation hazards.
Starfleet planning nods and asks if they can have more Prometheus class, gets rejected, and frowns with sad face.
Competing powers ask why the science and exploration frigate has quantum torpedoes.
Civilian leadership soothes, stating that those are multi-role launchers and could launch anything, like probes!
Romulans, anything?
Starfleet nods and smiles to the Romulans, anything the scientists of the UFP might come up with, but really it's the scanners that do all the work for...science.
And thus wars are deterred and science gets done.
IIRC, the symbol shown at 3:08 on the Type 03's hull was also seen prior to this episode on the cube in Q, Who. It was meant to be a symbol for the Borg, but it was quietly dropped after this (except for, very rarely, being used by the LCARS displays on Voyager to represent Borg ships).
I believe you're correct. Its also used places like Star Trek: Conquest the old strategy game for the Collective itself.
@@InvictusByz the Armada games as well.
You can also see it used in STO for various Borg factions.
@@Corbomite_Meatballs Forgot about STO, that's probably the strongest example so far, outside the shows. The run WILD with older material, but they're definitely incredibly familiar with it.
Rewatched that episode a few days ago, I was quite surprised to see the symbol there. I was actually under the impression that it was established in Descent, but they had it back then.
Star Trek Armada also had some interesting Borg vessels like the Pyramid, which had the technology to allow them to assimilate from orbit.
Fusion cube was awesome :)
A Borg Pyramid? They must have assimilated some Goa'uld.
The Borg who built the ship from “Descent” were probably drunk on boxed wine or something 😂
They added a bit too many genetically prone to extreme alcoholism to the collective... ( ...the more i think about inebriated borgs the funnier it gets (
Surprised you didn't mention the Tactical Cube. Good video, I love the Type 3. So unique and interesting and fitting for Borg who have gone mad. I imagine that after they were severed from the collective they had difficulty coordinating their efforts in repairing/maintaining their ship and the resulting asymmetrical design to their ship is the result of their incoordination.
they did Star Trek: Borg Cube | Extended Breakdown 198,573 views Aug 24, 2021
Spacedock delves into a detailed breakdown of the intimidating Borg Cube and it's counterpart the Tactical Cube
One of the greatest uses of canon in Star Trek - Dr. Crusher using that star to destroy the Borg ship.
The Borg designs feel like they definitely should be geometrical given their designed by AI for function and not artists for aesthetic
A new generation of Borg ship designs created by AI image generators? Yes please!
Or not much of a specific shape at all... Basically a blob of systems and modules.
Not just any geometric shape, though. Spheres are excellent because they are the single most efficient shape for a ratio of surface area to volume. Cubes are also good for maximizing useful volume (spheres are technically more efficient, but obviously give up a great deal of volume to curved rooms that wouldn't likely be useful). Probably the single ideal shape would be a stepped quasi-spherical shape (think the Stepped Pyramid as compared to the regular ones). Keep the shape as close to a sphere as possible, except each deck should be kept intact without a curved wall. So basically the sort of sphere you'd build in Minecraft.
@@reliantncc1864 Thought hexagons were the most efficient.
@@logicplague Hexagons aren't even 3-dimensional. They have a volume of zero. A solid with a hexagon-shaped cross section would be great for stacking, but not so great for spaceships.
5:01: gaze in terrified wonder at the technological splendour that is, the Borg Loaf™
It is likely that the type-03 was intended to show how Borg ships begin - Just cobbled-together material that grows and grows as it assimilates others until it attains its familiar cube shape over time.
Beta canon (especially the Armada games) have some really fun ones that honestly aged pretty well IMO
LOVED the first Armada game!
TNG is actually not the last time we saw the type 03. In Star Trek Voyagers Scorpion Part 2, Seven proposed a plan to deliver nanoprobes to Species 8472. Specifically a multikinetic neutronic mine with the power to annihilate an entire star system, that would spread the nanoprobes across space. On the display Seven of Nine showed the schematic of that mine, which looked exactly like the type 03.
It is my Theory that the Type 03 in TNG was actually a repurposed mine, that the drones used in their raids.
I literally posted this just now... before I noticed your post. :P
*deletes post*
My headcanon is that Hugh and the other drones were on a suicide mission against the assimilation-resistant Federation in the type 03/mine. Fortunately luck and treating others with humanity (letting Hugh go to spread his individuality) might have unwittingly saved the alpha quadrant.
@UCE5-3GEYM7TTD_8eLWW99tw lmao thats actually a funny take
The Type-03 also appears in star trek online and is in star trek armada 2 as the assimilator
That's a big effing mine. In reality they just reused a computer model thinking no one would notice. Or maybe an easter egg, who knows.
Easter egg, definitely, but in-story the thing *was* designed to spread nanoprobes across *light years*. ;)
Ah yes, standard Starfleet procedure to only have one shift of command crew and send _all_ of them on a away mission, leaving the chief Doctor in charge.
Still it's not the only sci-fi universe where a unstoppable alien menace has been destroyed by clever trickery and technological shenanigans perpetrated by _The Doctor._
One point of note, the Doctor in this case was a fully trained and rated Command Officer.
@@3Rayfire Still, the captain's place is on the bridge, not leading away missions I get why they did it, plot, but still. Also, what if the doctor is needed in sickbay for a major emergency?
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You mentioned Hugh, but you didn't mention the Borg scout ship he travelled in. That was the smallest Borg ship seen in Star Trek. Granted, we don't really know anything about it, except that it was basically a small version of a cube with only few meters in width, but it exists, so it still deserves a mention.
Now we need a full video break down of this small vessel, lets goo
Wasn't it a probe like the one mentioned? Crew compliment lines up.
@@logicplague It does, but I think it was a different ship. I don't have time to watch the entire episode now, but judging by the shots, it looks like it was actually a cube with a width of about 5-10 meters.
I was going to mention this 🙂 I remember they said it was the Borg equivalent of a shuttle.
Didn’t you noticed the Borg 0-3 ship got shown on a screen by 7 of 9 when she suggested them using „nanite mines“ against species 8472?
It was only encountered in TNG though, being shown on a viewscreen is NOT an encounter. Nor is it the same as "seeing" the vessel outside of the TNG Encounter.
i always considered that to be just crappy writing or laziness ( or even a budgetary necessity ) on the part of that episodes writers.
i once read the headcannon idea, that the Type 3 is basicly an immature Cube and what is happening once the Borg Assimilate the ship itself, like in the Episode of ENT. And it makes sense, why leave behind a dead husk of a Ship, the Borg are way to practical for that.
But well, Headcannon and stuff, it could also be that the form stems from the faint collective memorys
I loved fusion cubes in Armada.
While they were fun just to mess around with, I hated trying to get them to actually fuse or move in a fleet. I'm pretty sure they were right around the vertical height cap for the maps and most of the time they would get stuck trying to move up or down
@@codec862 Yeah, I mostly used them in custom maps against the AI.
Been playing a space 4x game clalled stellaris with a star trek overhaul and playing as the borg is pretty fun with even more ship types.
0:40 "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
Great video as always! I know you mentioned cubes, but the tactical cube was also kind of a rare one-off.
The Tactical Cube was covered in the previous Cube breakdown.
- hoojiwana from Spacedock
@@hoojiwana Ah, ty!
@@hoojiwana still, it's part of the topic of the video, and no mention of it. It should have been there.
I'm just glad they didn't bother including the space vagina from Picard that once again looks like someone is trying to rip off the Shadows of Babylon 5.
@@darwinxavier3516 God, that show is an abomination.
I read the center of Borg ships are usually the core of an assimilated ship
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
Except if you Species 8472.
Then no. Perish.
@@doom7ishoh yeah the species that they for whatever reason can't assimilate
I'm sure the Borg would have figured out how to do that eventually.
@@thestanleys3657 eventually; eventually there would be no Borg left to assimilate shit! Species 8472 was about to wipe them and all the galaxy out of existence! You follow Star Trek?
The Line Must Be Drawn Here!!!!!
Captain Picard!
Another good mention would be the assimilated ship in Enterprise. Quite interesting to see it evolve with each encounter
I agree.
Out of these I like the queen's diamond the most
Yeah the Borg diamond is absolutely overpowered
I like it design wise, but I hate it's role. The idea of a borg queen never really sat right with me, much less the need for specialized transport to move her from place to place. I'd rather the design have been for something like that borg probe, to be honest.
@@kevingriffith6011 I mostly agree with you
Also on the Star Trek website they list the debris wreckage from
TNG: I Borg. As it's own ship
"Borg scout ship" A ship most people don't realise & think it's a cube debris.
That's why the Type 03 is that number, first was the cube, then the scout ship.
- hoojiwana from Spacedock
Those poor Borg don't seem to stand a chance against this vicious 'Federation.'
I liked the Type-3. It had a unique look, but it still felt like a Borg ship. Utilitarian without being... well, the cube. The Unimatrix command ships and the Queen's vessel are the only ones that seem to have any personality to them. Yes, yes, AIs and assimilation and all that, but I would rather they had done something where the borg repurpose ships rather than just having the cubes and spheres and the like. Or, put another way, there are certain technical ideas in the Trek universe that inform ship design. It's why the Dominion vessels still have warp nacelles. But not the Borg, apparently. Just seemed... half-assed.
They could have used diced for inspiration if they wanted to stick to hard geometry shapes. The D20 or D8 would make a decent looking ship. The Narn space station in B5 sort of looks like a D8.
@@readhistory2023 They already did the d8. I point you to the diamond.
I can see repurposing them in a pinch, like on Enterprise, but it makes more sense to dissect them later for raw materials and useful tech. Especially given their original nature pre-Queen. That would have been cool though to see that first cube pull up to Earth with half of the Wolf 359 fleet assimilated.
@@logicplague That would have been cool. Like have parts used to shore up holes in the exterior structure that gradually get dissolved and replaced by the Borg plating. Like the crew that get absorbed into the Flying Dutchman in the 2nd and 3rd PotC movies.
The Pakled seeking to be assimilated by the Borg actually sounds like a plot for a Star Trek movie or a season of as Trek series. Though maybe not "Lower Decks", although it could put some "serious" in the series. But might also be dedicated to Capt. Riker of the USS Titan.
It would have been interesting for the Type 3 and it's gun toting ex drones to get into a fight with traditional Borg.
Who would come out on top and could the traditional Borg adapt to the rebels weapons?
Hugh’s ship was probably the same kind of probe Voyager encountered
I am so glad to hear that board ship that Lord built was destroyed and I'm so glad it'll never be seen again
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Watching star trek tng rn but this is better
I never really liked the Borg Queen. The whole menacing point of the Borg when they were first introduced in TNG was that you couldn't decapitate them because there was no head - they were decentralized all the way up. Adding the queen really detracted from that.
OT; What if there was a species that maintained _individuality_ after being turned into Drones?
That could have been a good plot point/episode arc.
Great video some things I had forgotten have come back to me.
I loved the idea of what happened with hugh and the help of Lore. They aren't part of the borg but are still borg. Reminds me of the geth and the heretics. Wonder if that's where they bioware got the idea from.
The Borg assimilating the Pakled:
We are the Borg: We are smart.
Despite the Borg Type 30 being a one off in the series. It was a Unit that could be built in Star Trek Armada, however it is given a diffrent name as the Borg Adaptor.
My head cannon is the borg that had been disconnected had encounted hugh while on a Boag Adaptor, but afterwords they chose to modify it to refelct their new individuality.
I think it would be nice for Spacedock to go over the ships that are in Star Trek Armada some time.
They got a lot of creativity out of the Borg ships.
Never seen any of the Star Trek series/movies but damn your videos let me learn a lot about the niche bits
"rare ships"
me slaughtering scores of probes in STO: what
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4:17 damn i forgot about The Crusher Manuver.
The borg are the best species in my opinion.
The crashed Borg scout in I Borg was the smallest ship used by the Borg.
Would love to see something on the Borg Cruciform ship from season 2 of Picard, but it's also hard because it doesn't really do much or have a specific role that we know of...
Can you do a ship breakdown on the compiler science dreadnought from the event in STO?
The first ship looks like the Micronauts ship
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"How to design the perfect fighter" is just Gunstar schematics.
What's the source of the Borg Type 03 being built by the abandoned Borg in "Descent"?
Star Trek Shipyards - The Borg and Delta Quadrant
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The Type 03 was feature in Voyage on a display screen in the P1 of the 2 Part EP scorpion as the ship of choice for 7's nano probe WMD
Yup i always enjoy borg content sins im a big borg fan.
The Borg ship seen in the TNG episodes "Descent, Parts 1 & 2" is unique, and NOT a standard Borg ship design, and it should NOT be associated with the Borg Collective themselves as it not operated by the Borg Collective, even if the ship had started its original existence as a Borg Cube. And, most likely, the ship had started out as a Cube, before it became severed from the Collective, and heavily modified into its irregular, asymmetrical shape, which was probably intended to reflect the more chaotic nature of Lore and his Rogue Borg faction.
The asymmetric ship that Lore used is seen on a Borg screen when 7 of 9 talks with Janeway about an efficient way to destroy Species 8472. It is refered to as a Neutronic Mine. Apparently a weapon of mass destruction. Maybe a plan for sector 001 went awry and Lore scooped up the Mine and repurposed as a vessel.
The Borg are fun. :)
5:13 Unless we count the Borg Scout Cube with a crew of 5, and a very specific 2.5 million metric tons.
I swear, ever since I first played as the borg all the way back in Starfleet Command 2, the diamond was one of my all time favourite ships in trek. I'd never heard of it before. that game was the first time I saw it and the shape was both a surprise to me and made perfect sense. Though the borg campaign in that was rather short and dull compared to the other nations
because of Honest Trailers most people now know Dr. Crusher as "The Ghost Fucker" instead of the unique Borg ship destroyer.
I remember reading some article published in a book about the Dark Frontier producers/writers wanted to show the queen's ship being assembled (or transformed?) while they were hanging out inside the middle section. Kinda like the queen herself, where the movie writers planned to show her limbs being assembled but had to scrap the idea until they did it later in voyager. But just with the movie, the ship assembly graphics were going to cost a tremendous amount of money, so they put it off for later. But then future janeway ruins that plan too 😆
I always assumed the 03 was just a cube or sphere or something that got heavily damaged, and the drones rebuilt… i say rebuilt but more like cobbled together, it from the debris. Then again people are saying that 7 of 9 showed a very similar looking schematic when trying to come up with a way to fight species 8472, so im probably wrong
Nice work
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Whilst it may not be “canon” I did find it interesting that during a story arc in Star Trek online, you enter fluidic space to face species 8472/undine and there are borg constructs in the area, from a distance you see several long “finned” constructs which were the exact same design as the few full ship shots of the V’ger craft from the first movie, thus heavily trying to imply that the race v’ger encountered was the borg
Could you do the ones in Star Trek Online? There are a few others not seen on TV shows
I like some of the non-canon designs like the tactical cube and the fusion cube (which is a combination of 8 cubes).
3:54 Stock footage GO!
*actually the borg assimilating a pakled would be a huge step backward for the collective and instead of assimilating technologies and civilizations they would just go around looking for stuff that made them go*
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Hey you should do the andromeda ascendent
can we get a kudos for Dr Crusher's brilliant tactics?
If I recall, there were even more Borg ship designs like the Detector or the Wedge. They may not have a lot of lore but I think they need to be covered.
Afaik they only exist in games like Armada.
There was a ship in iBorg but we never saw it on screen. I think it was described as a cube with a crew compliment of 8.
So a box
You mention that these vessels were only seen one and usually destory on site in that episode. Teeeechnically, didn't we see another sphere in the 'First Contact' movie?
You need to do the Sea wasp from Avatar 2
I believe Star Trek: Armada made extensive use of all three of these designs.
No borg tactical cube? aw :( or did you already make a video on that. I forget who's made videos on what nowadays.
Good video though. Love your work ^_^
It's all bullshit , nothing I didn't know from watching the show, even less from spacedock channel!!!!
Cringe 😬
The Tactical Cube was covered in the previous Cube breakdown video.
- hoojiwana from Spacedock
Cool design.
type 03, i dont think is actually a borg ship. thats an unknown alien vessel, assimilated into a borg vessel, not unlike what the borg do in the single episode they appear in Enterprise.
Why would I try to save a Pakled from being intentionally assimilated by the Borg? It would be the best thing that ever happened to the Pakled and the worst thing that ever happened to the Borg.
What about the tactical cube from Unimatrix Zero?
Great content, however, one critique... you failed to mention the similarities between the ship encountered by Enterprise ( Borg Type 03 ) and the gravitic mine that 7 of 9 had on a Borg display in the Voyager episode Scorpion..
What about the Borg Juggernaut from Picard?
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For me, the borg queen was the biggest misstep in trek writing. The borg's entire threat was their alien inhumanity and non-negotiability. They didn't need a queen or a face. They seemed more complex until someone said "bwhuh like a hive of insects"
The Probe technically first appeared on TNG as the ship that Hugh had been on that crashed.
Are you going to show the avatar the way of water rda vehicle.
Liberated Borg Command Juggernaut
What about the Borg Tactical Cube?
I admit I'm not completely up on my Trek lore. Errr, data.... Either way, does killing the physical body of the queen essentially cut the head off the borg (And if so, what then?) or does she have a copy of herself backed up someplace(s)?
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I have a request about the terranian ships (any one will do) from the perry rhodan book series.
Or is that to much for you?
Isn’t the borg ship mentioned from the tng episodes in Star Trek armada 2 known as a assimilator?”
The Borg just had to send 10 cubes and they would've beaten the Alpha quadrant, not just the Federation.
And the Tactical Borg cube ?
You forgot the Borg ship created for Enterprise.
it's the borg semi-colon