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  • Опубліковано 18 тра 2023
  • Disney recently announced that their Star Wars hotel/experience Galactic Starcruiser would be shutting down before the end of the year. The expensive and underwhelming Star Wars experience is something I was critical of previously and its failure was obvious from the start.
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  • @asphaltmemories4597
    @asphaltmemories4597 Рік тому +3859

    $6k to larp in a warehouse for 48hrs? Couldn’t imagine why it wasn’t a success.

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 Рік тому +287

      Murdering the Original Characters didn’t help.

    • @fazbrogaming7776
      @fazbrogaming7776 Рік тому +259

      Mind you, a windowless warehouse.

    • @andrewlong9799
      @andrewlong9799 Рік тому +156

      I found someone who was upset because they were trying to go for their forth visit. Where the hell are people getting the money for this?

    • @SargesCustoms
      @SargesCustoms Рік тому +89

      And to just be more sprecific... 44 hours and a "Here's your bag breakfast, now get the hell out of here" third day.

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 Рік тому +56

      @@andrewlong9799 I make $12,000 a year washing dishes… if I could afford to throw away $6,000 I wouldn’t on Disney ‼️‼️‼️

  • @existentialselkath1264
    @existentialselkath1264 Рік тому +1379

    Star wars simply isn't a 'premium' brand. Most parents, even with a lot of money, aren't going to look at this more favorably than an ACTUAL cruise

    • @Zazei94
      @Zazei94 Рік тому +38

      It has nothing to do with star wars being premium or whatever. It's the price and like what you said they would rather go on an actual cruise.

    • @existentialselkath1264
      @existentialselkath1264 Рік тому +83

      @@Zazei94 you know what premium means right? It's directly about the price.
      If you have enough money to buy a nice car, you'd take a Ferrari, not a Ford that looks like the millennium falcon. It's cool, but the Ferrari is the premium brand, the one you think of when you're looking for an expensive car.
      If someone is looking for holiday destinations with money to burn, they're not going to think of star wars.

    • @pofeed
      @pofeed Рік тому +46

      100%. Opportunity cost is a real thing. $6000 can buy you a really nice family vacation, and anyone for whom six grand isn't pocket change is absolutely going to consider this.

    • @COMMANDandConquer199
      @COMMANDandConquer199 Рік тому +8

      Not anymore it isn't. Disney made sure of that.

    • @Zazei94
      @Zazei94 Рік тому +2

      @@strandednyer7209 your still on this. Man I saw you reply and I agree but honestly I don't really care anymore. Move on dude.

  • @codyerickson3550
    @codyerickson3550 Рік тому +2085

    The fact that Disney would rather shut it down over simply lowering prices speaks volumes.

    • @808INFantry11X
      @808INFantry11X Рік тому +167

      I dont think they can and still keep it open the bad thing of Disney is they made it a gentrification experience if they lowered prices it wouldn't have been able to afford the operations but that's what Disney got wrong they made it more for people with alot of money to burn rather then try to keep its experience within the price range for the average Joe.

    • @dellscorcho
      @dellscorcho Рік тому +108

      The problem is since its an underground bunker with only 100 rooms they cant scale easily. Large hotels have 500+ rooms but shut off entire floors when business is slow but make a ton of money when some event is happening(like a convention)

    • @henrythef1guy768
      @henrythef1guy768 Рік тому +37

      This was a loss-maker for them and Bob Iger is doing everything in his power to get Disney back on track.
      Also Disney should keep doing representation of LGBTQ+ cuz stopping doing that is giving in to hate. Don’t give in to hate. Plus homophobic parents and non-parents are already alienated.

    • @Dezzyyy
      @Dezzyyy Рік тому +212

      @@henrythef1guy768 wtf are you on about "giving into hate" and homophobia? That has nothing to do with anything anyone is talking about here lol

    • @henrythef1guy768
      @henrythef1guy768 Рік тому +7

      @@Dezzyyy I’m just saying cuz that is a factor as to why Disney has been slumping

  • @GusMcGuire
    @GusMcGuire Рік тому +266

    My partner and I flew across the Atlantic to stay for a fortnight in an all-expenses paid resort in the Caribbean for £5,000. I enjoyed two weeks of fine food and drink, excursions around the island, snorkelling on the reefs and lagoons, a full events programme, a gym, sandy beaches and magnificent weather. Disney would have expected me to pay that amount for a basic stay in their windowless bunker for two nights, and that doesn't even include the trip across the Atlantic to get there and back again. They not only priced many of their domestic audience out of their product, but made it next to impossible for international guests.

    • @repletereplete8002
      @repletereplete8002 Рік тому +6

      Totally agree with you on that score. Me and my wife have gone to many amazing places like Iceland and artic parts of Norway etc that are famously pricey but for under £5000 total spend for a week we stayed in ice hotels, had days out on snowmobiles, saw the northern lights, went to the Blue Lagoon and fast boated next to whales. These trips felt like actually visiting some of the alien SW environments (some actually filming locations for Star Wars films) and were truly magical and exhilarating. I can't imagine spending two days in a sanitised static SW sequel cruise would ever compare.

    • @AlexTheGamer97
      @AlexTheGamer97 Рік тому +7

      You could travel for more a month or two backpacking for $5000 in some countries. I’d guarantee that would be a lot more memorable than 2 nights…

    • @robsolf
      @robsolf Рік тому +2

      Yep. Many people don't have 6k to spend. The rest, can get so much more, or just take the money to turn their kid's bedroom into a spaceship. I get the feeling the failure here occurred in the early stages of development; where you project operating costs.

    • @nitroxylictv
      @nitroxylictv Рік тому +1

      For about $4,000 you can buy a 2 way ticket to Hawaii and a few nights at an average hotel. Since Hawaii is another state you really wouldnt have to spend much more to be comfortable in fact the beach is plenty for most people to enjoy along with surfing, fishing, kayaking and exploring the tropical forest. The price would increase the farther you are away and I based it off of starting from California. Someone like me who lives in the south/midwest would have to spend around $4500/$5000 for the extra flight distance but its still a million times more ejoyment spending a week on a tropical island than it is spending 2 nights in an enclosed building surrounded by people in costumes.

    • @colors6692
      @colors6692 Рік тому

      "£5,000"...use $ please when talking to Americans!

  • @seth2671
    @seth2671 Рік тому +637

    The cost alone made it impossible for most people to go and enjoy. Then seeing what was offered for the two days didn’t look worth the price tag.

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 Рік тому +24

      The wrost part is that it's not even 2 full days. Check in is one afternoon or early evening and checkout is in the morning on day 3. This means that day 2 is your only full day at the hotel and even then part of it spent at Galaxy's Edge.

    • @lesigh1749
      @lesigh1749 Рік тому +6

      As if the price for the hotel wasn't enough, they wanted another $5000 for the Kyber Crystal cocktail. 😂

    • @DysfunctionNoMore
      @DysfunctionNoMore Рік тому +3

      If they were smart they would have private immersive experiences within an otherwise normal hotel that happens to look like different places in star wars. The experiences could range from $5 for 10 minutes with a fake light sabre to $50k for a 24-hour total immersion quest. There could be Star Wars escape rooms, 4d rides, etc. Etc. Most people want choice, variety, and the ability to go outside whenever they like...also to feel like they're getting value...

    • @iandungeon273
      @iandungeon273 Рік тому

      @@Riceball01 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thefriendlygrenade7277
    @thefriendlygrenade7277 Рік тому +1278

    Honestly, a star wars themed hotel would be awesome. Imagine if different floors had different themes, like Coruscant or Tattooine or hell, even a spaceship idk

    • @RoscoeWasHere
      @RoscoeWasHere Рік тому +73

      Lego does it and it's awesome. Easy win. And it wouldn't be fugly as hell outside.

    • @terencetsang9518
      @terencetsang9518 Рік тому +35

      @@RoscoeWasHere yeah Legoland hotels are awesome. I wonder if I should pony up and try out the castle one the next time I go...
      But then again it isn't like that the Mouse doesn't know how to properly do themed hotels, they already have that with the general Disney stuff. They just need to copy that over to Star Wars, but instead we got... this.

    • @Avalon_1991
      @Avalon_1991 Рік тому +25

      If they somehow made an outdoors bit look like Naboo that would be amazing with the big waterfalls etc.

    • @ManoraManYT
      @ManoraManYT Рік тому +1

      @@terencetsang9518 Thue have does some nice minor themed hotels that are nice they aren’t near Lego land level but it is relatively cheap and you get to take pictures with massive character statues

    • @iconicjesterman1288
      @iconicjesterman1288 Рік тому +11

      Hell could even offer Endor Bungalows near the park for cheaper

  • @haberak3310
    @haberak3310 Рік тому +314

    I think part of the problem looking from the outside, even putting aside the cost, is that you are only immersed so long as you can ignore the other guests because they are still dressed as they would be normally, you are still dressed in your normal clothes. Like... damn, if you're going to charge what for a lot of people could be as much as half a year of rent, at least give them some cheap simple costume (hell, you could even sell the costumes online or outside too, if you really wanna make a buck off it)

    • @JediSentinal
      @JediSentinal Рік тому +41

      was the main reason I didn't blow my savings on a trip.
      dont want Mike in his pepsi shirt ruining it for someone who lives and breathes the lore like I do.

    • @mro4ts457
      @mro4ts457 Рік тому +44

      This and it shouldn’t have been set in the Sequel timeline, either the OG or Prequel timelines would have been much better and more fun to larp
      $6,000 and they couldn’t even spare $20 on costumes for guests🤦‍♀️

    • @birnabear9247
      @birnabear9247 Рік тому +37

      @@mro4ts457 Yeah aside from the price, I find it hard to take the First Order seriously. Its not exactly a timeline I want to holiday in.

    • @The_Sharktocrab
      @The_Sharktocrab Рік тому +4

      They do sell costumes

    • @chesterstevens8870
      @chesterstevens8870 Рік тому +7

      ​@@The_Sharktocrab
      >"What do you mean 'homeless crisis?' Can't they just buy houses?"

  • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
    @the_inquisitive_inquisitor Рік тому +395

    Honestly, being locked in a windowless concrete bunker is probably a lot like being on a bigass spaceship.

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому +59

      They're in Florida; I don't get why they didn't actually make a Star Wars cruise ship in the first place.

    • @caractacuspott4581
      @caractacuspott4581 Рік тому +1

      Hi Woody

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor Рік тому +3

      @@caractacuspott4581 I love you too, random citizen!

    • @caractacuspott4581
      @caractacuspott4581 Рік тому

      @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Go fly your paramotor!

    • @CrossRoadsOfTime
      @CrossRoadsOfTime Рік тому

      @@AJadedLizard well as for my guess, their main area in Florida is not by the sea, and that still losses some immersion as they are trying to make it seem like your in outer space not out at sea. and since they wanted complete immersion they couldn't just rent space at a marina to get people on to the boat as that would feel like your getting on to a boat instead of a spaceship. So they'd have to buy and build their own, and with how much trouble they are having with their inland plots, it's a fair bet that they wouldn't of gotten to far with buying land and permitting such a building. And even if they had, that's way more expensive to build up everything that would be needed to even get to the ship, then there's the cost of making such a ship. remember they want you to spend money on them, not the other way around.

  • @Detac3
    @Detac3 Рік тому +118

    The sad thing is that you know disney will continue not to learn from this

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому +5

      I think they did learn one thing from this - people have their limits on how much they're willing to pay just on brand name alone. If they build a new Star Wars themed hotel, they'll probably cut back on the LARP, reduce overheads to be more in-line with their normal resorts, and bump capacity up significantly so that the overhead costs can be spread out over a larger number of customers.

    • @MattU4970
      @MattU4970 Рік тому +1

      Disney is trying to price out the Middle Class. The only lesson they *could* learn would be to make the experience more variable for those who can blow $6K like it was nothing.

    • @bob1986
      @bob1986 Рік тому +5

      @@MattU4970 I think the main problem is there aren't enough people with that kind of cash to throw away that care about Star Wars enough to do it.

    • @MattU4970
      @MattU4970 Рік тому +4

      @@bob1986 Exactly. This was obvious from Day One. The only people aside from Disney who thought this was a good idea were those who got to experience it for free during the preview.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Рік тому

      Their blaming Santos

  • @Jumbleman5
    @Jumbleman5 Рік тому +46

    The official statement reminds me of silicon valley startup spin. People who run startups that fail will often move on to another startup and say stuff like "it's a good thing that I was a part of that because that failure taught me a lot so I can do a better job now." When the truth is that if they were any good to begin with, they wouldn't have run the business into the ground at all.

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine Рік тому +7

      I mean, most new businesses tend to fail. It is legitimately hard to get a business of the ground and you do ultimately have to make bets on how things will work out no matter how good you are or hard you work. There's a reason the franchise model is so popular for restaurants and hotels as it increases your odds of success by tapping into established national marketing/brand/supply chains. But I get the point you're trying to make. And yeah, tech startups are particularly egregious due to the shameless self promotion that's expected of the leadership.

  • @sleepygryph
    @sleepygryph Рік тому +98

    Reminds me of that moment in Big, where they're discussing the price for the interactive comic book and the question comes up "who'd pay this much for a comic book?"
    There was a disconnect between what their customers want and what their customers could afford, a business 101 failure, kind of like everything Disney right now it seems.

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому +15

      It makes me think of the scene in Jurassic Park (the film; the novel handles this completely differently) where Hammond and Genaro are discussing how much they'll charge for admission. Genaro is of the opinion, with dinosaurs on display, they can charge whatever they want, but Hammond wants the park to be accessible to everyone. Clearly, Disney doesn't.

    • @brianmead7556
      @brianmead7556 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, basically like imagine if McDonald’s start started having a $15 plus burger. People don’t go to McDonald’s for a fine dining dining gourmet restaurant experience they go because they’re broke and hungry, because they’re broke hungry and it’s the only thing that’s open late night.

  • @butteredtoast6510
    @butteredtoast6510 Рік тому +197

    Couldn’t be bothered to pay $10 to see the sequel trilogy in theaters let alone $6,000 to be trapped in it for 2 days 💀

    • @HappyBuddhaBoyd
      @HappyBuddhaBoyd Рік тому +3

      I really enjoyed the all of the movies from the living room theme park that I like to call..."The bay of Pirates". They have really good prices.

    • @jamesw3413
      @jamesw3413 Рік тому +6

      You couldn't even pay me to lock myself in a bunker full of sweaty nerds LARPing some cringe films.
      They should've just made a bunch of solitary confinement units and call them 'Jedi meditation retreats' that would've been way more successful.

    • @renaissancenovice7202
      @renaissancenovice7202 Рік тому

      Facts

  • @Druffis
    @Druffis Рік тому +656

    Disney took the L by making it so expensive. If they had lowered their prices significantly, they would have had more business and success.

    • @CameronHuff
      @CameronHuff Рік тому +20

      Considering how much people spend to visit one of the Disney parks, they probably thought Star Wars fans would do the same thing.

    • @lonewolf9578
      @lonewolf9578 Рік тому +55

      @@CameronHuff considering how they’ve treated us over the last decade they have to be insane to think that

    • @NearlyInfinity
      @NearlyInfinity Рік тому +11

      I mean, probably not, as the vid says, It looks real expensive to run, so if they did it cheaper then they're running a loss, more business ofc but hardly success

    • @chewy99.
      @chewy99. Рік тому +1

      Same definitely would’ve gone. Im pretty close to it already lol

    • @dhaburuk6494
      @dhaburuk6494 Рік тому

      @@lonewolf9578 They probably are insane, that's why they've treated us like this for all these years.

  • @WhoTookPlockrock
    @WhoTookPlockrock Рік тому +53

    It was conceived in that era of Disney Star Wars where Disney was adamantly in favor of pushing their external media presence as primarily matching a sequel aesthetic, but were bogged down by the fact the sequels kind of didn't have a strong visual identity you could market a theme park or a hotel off of. And what's there kind of just feels like off-brand Original Trilogy. While Galaxy's Edge was mostly able to skirt around this, the Galactic Starcruiser was panned from minute one for just not capturing a feeling of Star Wars.

    • @SyncViews
      @SyncViews Рік тому +5

      Well they kinda dug that hole by not getting off the off-brand "rescaled" star destroyer and death star design, complete with similar design flaws of their predecessors.
      Think actually the prequels did a far better job with making the clone troopers, ground vehicles, and republic navy more distinct as a "pre-empire" force, and the separatist forces were on theme while being clearly different.

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine Рік тому +1

      @@SyncViews Disney didn't buy the brand to innovate with it.

  • @atomicninjaduck9200
    @atomicninjaduck9200 Рік тому +43

    "You can still charge an arm and a leg, that's Disney, that's what they do..."
    Wow. Suddenly it becomes crystal clear why I never was taken to a Disney theme park of any sort!

    • @arandompasserby7940
      @arandompasserby7940 Рік тому +5

      There was a time when the theme parks we're quite as prohibitively expensive. These days it's ridiculous.

    • @nitroxylictv
      @nitroxylictv Рік тому +1

      I by no means come from a wealthy family, though im not poor at all and we never took trips to theme parks or cruises. The prices on out of state/country vacationing have soared. A simple 2 week cruise, 5 star ship here in the US goes for around $2,500 to $4,000 per person. The cheapest cruises are still outrageous for what it is, $1,500 per person. A family of 4 going on a cruise would have to spend around $8,000-$10,000 with all the extra spending factored in like getting to the docks and buying gifts, snacks, clothing and hygiene products. My uncle used to take his family on cruises all the time and they had to actually finance the entire price and pay it monthly because it was too much for them. These days a simple roadtrip and camping is enough. Its cheap and you can find things to do along the way.

    • @Gala-yp8nx
      @Gala-yp8nx Рік тому

      It’s almost as if 80% of the US population can only afford to take their kids there once if ever.

  • @Hedgehobbit
    @Hedgehobbit Рік тому +35

    It's hard to be immersed in anything when surrounded by people in street clothes filming everything on their phone.

  • @aldraone-mu5yg
    @aldraone-mu5yg Рік тому +289

    Personally I think Startreck would have been a better fit for Disney, they seem to struggle with the whole war part.

    • @techpriest2854
      @techpriest2854 Рік тому +92

      star trek tried to be smart and well written. Disney cant do either.

    • @lonewolf9578
      @lonewolf9578 Рік тому +61

      I doubt Star Trek would do much better than it currently is if Disney had it

    • @RagnarTheGrey
      @RagnarTheGrey Рік тому +30

      Star Trek would've been just as if not more mishandled by Disney.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому +25

      Problem with Star Trek is that it's too nuanced. Or at least everything up until ENT was, jury's kinda split on everything after that. Disney is neither capable of or willing to write anything that complex.

    • @brunhildevalkyrie
      @brunhildevalkyrie Рік тому

      That would be hilariously ironic as star trek is a communist society

  • @seaferg5072
    @seaferg5072 Рік тому +424

    I’m sad that I’m rooting for Star Wars to fail so the right people can get fired…

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 Рік тому +66

      Star Wars is doomed in the hands of Disney.

    • @AlienBemular
      @AlienBemular Рік тому +30

      Once great franchise died but reborn but died again. Disney killed many great upcoming games like og battlefield 3 and star wars 1313.

    • @therealking6202
      @therealking6202 Рік тому +16

      I've been rooting since Episode 7!!!

    • @lonewolf9578
      @lonewolf9578 Рік тому +8

      @@therealking6202 tbf at least after the mixed film and wasted potential from the force awakens we then got rogue one

    • @therealking6202
      @therealking6202 Рік тому +10

      @@lonewolf9578 Fair enough. Rogue One is a great movie. Really well done. I've only heard good things from other fans too. Why they don't ctrl-c then ctrl-v with that movie is beyond me!

  • @AerinTheDude
    @AerinTheDude Рік тому +67

    A good and authentic feeling Star Wars hotel wouldn't have to be expensive. It would just require competence and creativity.
    Wanna stay for a weekend at Luke's Jedi Academy on Yavin? Wanna hang out in an Ewok village for a night? Wanna Airbnb at the Lars Homestead?
    All of these sound more fun than the crap they were trying to sell at this 'starcruiser' and wouldn't cost much to re-create to a reasonable level of fidelity.

    • @davidordaz5251
      @davidordaz5251 Рік тому +3

      I agree

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer Рік тому +7

      Stay a night at Narkina 5!

    • @AerinTheDude
      @AerinTheDude Рік тому +7

      @@Justanotherconsumer Best idea by far.
      And as you leave you find out you're actually building inner supports for the Epcot Ball. Then your family gets escorted back in for another two days...
      Edit: Then after your second shift/stay you get to escape. Until your 5 year old gets to the end and says "I can't swim..."
      This is the vacation we want, Disney!

  • @thomasmurrell9832
    @thomasmurrell9832 Рік тому +15

    So I have a friend who's HUGELY knowledgeable in Disney park stuff. He told me one of the biggest problems it had was that it was a completely windowless building people would spend money to stay in for longer than 48 consecutive hours, which causes the brain to lose sense of direction and other senses fall with it, and it often led to people getting sick.

    • @erikberg7891
      @erikberg7891 Рік тому +2

      I think this is completely inaccurate. I was fortunate to have had a Starcruiser experience with my family earlier this year. While the staterooms themselves are windowless (they have a viewport that shows a view of space “outside” your room), you really don’t do anything more than sleep in your room. The common areas include a very large two-story area where the bulk of the plot takes place, and the dining room is big enough to fit half of the several hundred guests at one time (there are two meal times for dinner). Has anyone who’s eaten at Pizza Port at Disneyland complained about its lack of outside views? The morning of the second day guests take a “shuttle” down to the surface and typically spend a few hours exploring the Galaxy’s Edge part of the park. Lots of fresh air (probably hot and muggy -it’s central Florida) and such. Back on the ship, there is even a room that is open to the sky yes, it really has an open ceiling) that is supposed to be an “atmosphere simulator” for the planet about to be visited. I can’t imagine many guests would be overwhelmed with some sort of disorientation over the less than 48 hours spent there - we certainly were too busy enjoying the spectacle and the food and the great service and the other guests. I was certainly not ready to leave the second morning.

    • @Gala-yp8nx
      @Gala-yp8nx Рік тому

      Ding ding ding. If they had gone with a planet theme then there wouldn’t have been a problem. People definitely would have paid money to go to a Naboo themed hotel experience.

    • @Eidlones
      @Eidlones 5 місяців тому

      This is a really weird thing to say, imo. Just cause you can't see outside, doesn't mean you lose your sense of direction. What would the science behind that even be? Your body can't see the sky, so it forgets where north is, or something? Especially over the course of only 48 hours?
      There have been many people that spent longer than 48 hours without seeing the outside, and don't lose their sense of direction and get sick. It's not even a thing they need to look out for, in official capacities. Hell, people are trapped in submarines for months, and it's not something they look out for.

  • @jacobgale4792
    @jacobgale4792 Рік тому +19

    Defunctland video on this hotel gonna go hard

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 Рік тому +207

    The real problem is that it’s overpriced. They should renovate it to be more of a hotel and much more affordable price

    • @mro4ts457
      @mro4ts457 Рік тому +1

      It would be worth the price if they gave costumes/outfits to all the guests for their stays, so everyone would like they’re in the right setting.
      Also, they shouldn’t have used the Sequels timeline and should’ve had it set during the og or prequels timeline, then it might have been close to worth $6,000 for the family

    • @TimCortesi
      @TimCortesi Рік тому +5

      Sometimes things are expensive because of insanely high markups. Other things they are expensive because they're actually expensive to run. I suspect that the starcruiser was more of the latter, implying that it simply wouldn't be viable business model at a lower price point.

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium Рік тому +2

      Yeah this or *ACTUALLY MAKE ALL ACTIVITIES IMMERSIVE AND ENGAGING* not just have guests stand around and watch the cheaply choreographed narrative.
      Like, where's the need to man defense turrets, battle against a boarding party of enemy troopers with nerf rifles, march around the ship with Stormtroopers, play an instrument with the band, or "help" out in the galley by learning how to cook & plate your own fancy dish?

    • @RayFChung
      @RayFChung Рік тому

      ​@@TimCortesi then they should have the experience not feel like some cheap knock off. For 6k I get to spend 2 days in a shitty themed room with no windows? Forced to watch shitty acted larping, I mean theater, where I can't interact or be part of?
      And i still need to spend more money for any extra goods at an overpriced rate.

  • @Irisarian
    @Irisarian Рік тому +21

    When they first announced the price and the experience there was about 10 seconds where I sat there and considered just how I could afford to do this. And then I quickly snapped back into reality and realized that was never going to happen and I was totally ok with that! The more reviews I watched the less excited I got. Which is kind of sad. You’d think seeing reviews you would get more excited but the opposite happened. It’s only 2 days. And it’s not in a Star Wars era I want to spend 2 full days immersed in. 🤷‍♀️

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 Рік тому +1

      I honestly expected them to try a different era before closing it. With what they've done with the Disney Troopers they could have possibly even gotten away with Clone Wars Era. It's a shame, I would have loved to have gone but the price tag is just too hard to justify.

    • @whyhatestrangers
      @whyhatestrangers Рік тому

      Is that your horse? Cute picture!

    • @renaissancenovice7202
      @renaissancenovice7202 Рік тому

      Or 2 hours

  • @albertko1
    @albertko1 Рік тому +12

    Honestly, because it was such an isolated experience as well made it just worse. My BIL and a coworker's BIL are the whales that would drop 10k on rooms in the Disney theme parks and honestly even after seeing what you get for that kind of money, I kinda understand why Disney execs would think the Starcruiser would be considered priced correctly. However, you're not getting nearly the same feel and level of amenities in Starcruiser... it just feels like it's a hotel cosplay or LARPing like another commenter mentioned.
    The value proposition just doesn't work out... maybe if they had themed it after the palace in Naboo or other luxurious exotic SW destination it would have sold better as an alternative luxury experience with an SW twist.

  • @manolis.799
    @manolis.799 Рік тому +110

    Eck: This was news to me because I don’t think about the star cruiser very much
    Evidentially you weren’t the only one Eck….

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 Рік тому +17

      I had forgotten it existed.

    • @gabriellopesguimaraes3513
      @gabriellopesguimaraes3513 Рік тому +5

      This thing is so forgettable that nobody talked about it after the release and all the influencers already went to do their marketing, if the name of the place wasn't named "Star Wars" and with some lightsabers, most people would think it's just a generic sci-fi hotel

    • @Irisarian
      @Irisarian Рік тому +4

      Yeah I forgot it existed a few months after it opened.

  • @the-dank-gatsby3413
    @the-dank-gatsby3413 Рік тому +28

    6 thousand dollars and it was just lame. If i had a family and i was in the market for a vacation theres so many better and cheaper options

  • @ArchOfWinter
    @ArchOfWinter Рік тому +16

    Instead of fully hands on immersion with group activities that guests have to stick to a script, have it more passive. Have a week long hotel stay in the Starcruiser. Similar price as now for 'first class' access to non-mandatory quests/missions so guests can do them at their own pace. Much cheaper price for just the hotel stay. Still put up some optional dinner and a show like what they already have. NPC casts will still be around to help with regular hotel things along with role playing. First Class guests can keep track of their story, stats, progression and casts will interact with them during 'plot relevant' event. Non-first class guests won't be playing any role, but can tag along for some events. Cast won't treat them like characters. Certain activities like dinner and a show will be paid separately upfront.

    • @slosubies4845
      @slosubies4845 Рік тому +2

      Good idea. Treat the resort like a huge arcade, with different interactive activities in different areas for guests to complete at their own leisure. Maybe a slightly different plotline develops if you do the activities in a different order or to various degrees of success. So much potential wasted. And add costumes! Disney could make their big money from selling movie-quality costumes. I know a few people who would pay an extra $2k to purchase and wear a suit of Mandalorian armor while haning out in a Star Wars themed resort for a week.

    • @Gala-yp8nx
      @Gala-yp8nx Рік тому +1

      Quite frankly it should be more like a Renaissance Fair or Medieval Times than what Starcruiser ended up as.

  • @cd5sircoupe
    @cd5sircoupe Рік тому +15

    I dunno about other people, but when I first heard of the starcruiser concept I thought it could be cool... then we got details about it. Yeah, the price is stupid and all, but when I saw what the "experience" entailed I was like Nope! Even if I could afford it, that itinerary doesn't sound like a good time. I don't want to be shoe horned into a structured live action role playing experience, I just want a hotel room in a SW themed hotel, let me do my own damn thing. Then again I guess I'm not the target audience...

  • @Fsudryden
    @Fsudryden Рік тому +32

    I believe you were right on all fronts. You are right on the bigger hotel idea. Add a theme around it like a Jedi/Sith Temple of a rebel base during the civil war. Or a replica of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Anything but a neutral feeling cruising starship.

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому +2

      The Temple on Coruscant or, maybe even better, one of the temples on Yavin IV would be cool. Build some kickass simulators and let people fly sorties against the Death Star.

    • @ThePhengophobe
      @ThePhengophobe Рік тому +4

      You could have a split with Rebels and Empire, housed in differant barracks styled rooms, have a big ass laser tag battle, "stealth" missions where thr Rebels "infiltrate" the Empire side, theres plenty of fun things you could do if they just listened to fans or had any understanding of the franchise.

    • @shanekeenaNYC
      @shanekeenaNYC Рік тому +1

      @@AJadedLizard The senate building.

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому

      @@shanekeenaNYC I dunno if I'd want to *stay* at the Senate building, but a tour that just so happened to coincide with Grievous storming it would be fun.

  • @adamraddish
    @adamraddish Рік тому +41

    Wonder who came up with the price to stay like who they think has that much just for 2 nights

    • @isaackim7675
      @isaackim7675 Рік тому +3

      They should’ve done a discounted price when it comes to May the Fourth

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому +2

      @@isaackim7675
      They've _been_ doing discounts to try and salvage it. Still didn't work. What people are willing to pay is lower than what Disney is willing to charge, and possibly lower than what Disney pays in overhead for that thing per person.

    • @usagifang
      @usagifang Рік тому

      Kathleen Bitcheddy made the prices because her feminazi films failed horribly.

    • @shawbag11
      @shawbag11 Рік тому +1

      They was probs thinking of the star wars super fans who would gladly spend thousends on making there house look like a ship from star wars. the issue is there really isnt that many of thoes kinds of people and even they probs wouldnt want to go to the hotel more than once. all they really had to do was lower the price to something more affordable or maybe turn it into a normal hotel without the larp elements like the other hotels and let people chose to stay longer than a week but still offer special events that have all the larp stuff be a thing.

  • @jamesjwilliams4
    @jamesjwilliams4 Рік тому +50

    My brother and I each took our families on separate occasions. It was my big vacation after coming home from deployment and I have to say, it felt like a labor of love for the cast, and was almost worth the price point. The idea is great and I did feel like part of the universe, but the story was outdated by the movies when it opened. Watching my kids running around being excited to save Chewie and help Rey made it close to that value. I think it honestly had a huge amount of overhead for the size of the production, hence the close instead of lowering cost.

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому +8

      That's a shame, because the idea is *super* cool but...I don't know anybody who can afford that. We have literal theme parks elsewhere; I feel like there has to be a way to do something like this on a smaller scale and still create a similar experience.

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine Рік тому +1

      @@AJadedLizard I think the problem is that it's just too tactile(?) an experience to really do justice. Like, don't get me wrong, imagineers do amazing work with Disney's theme parks. But no portion of Disneyland has to hold up to scrutiny to the degree that the Star Cruiser would have to. And that price point demands interactivity on a completely different level. I'm sure the cast member tried their best, they don't deserve any shit from people over the quality of the project, but there's only so much the cast can do.

  • @ShadowGJ
    @ShadowGJ Рік тому +4

    For our last vacation, my wife and I spent $6-7k for 10 days at a mid-range Disney World resort, visiting all the parks, even Universal Studios, lunch and dinner at the parks and buying whatever merchandising we pleased. Including air ticket down the East Coast. Even as a hardcore Star Wars fan, I can't fathom spending the same for a 2-day "ride" and missing out on 90% of the rest.

  • @daddsfasdasd
    @daddsfasdasd Рік тому +14

    It was way too much for only 2 days idk what they where thinking

  • @ManoraManYT
    @ManoraManYT Рік тому +46

    I fully agree even though I haven’t gone on it because it’s expensive but if it was 2,000 for the whole package I would definitely go 6,000 for 2-nights isn’t even appropriate for a trip even to Disney
    Edit: I really think if they gave out park passes with it like they usually do it could be worth it but I’ll have to see

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому

      $2K would be...reasonable if that also included access to the park itself but $6K and you don't even get that is absurd.

    • @DerpyPenguin4747
      @DerpyPenguin4747 Рік тому +1

      @@AJadedLizard even the season pass is only $1400

    • @jayt9608
      @jayt9608 Рік тому +1

      Last year I went on a trip to Tennessee with my family. The car rental, motel rooms, visiting the Ark Encounter, Dollywood, visiting Lookout Mountain and Rock City in Chattanooga, a couple shows in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, and eating probably cost a combined total of four to six thousand dollars. My portion alone was roughly 1,500. And we were gone roughly eight days!!

    • @shawbag11
      @shawbag11 Рік тому

      People complain about the experiance not being fun or like staying in a bunker but honestly i would have gone if it hadent been almost half of most peoples yearly sallary for 2 nights. like for 6k i could afford to get a years pass to all 6 parks for a family of 4 and still have money left over to spend a week or so in one of the other cheeper hotels.

    • @ManoraManYT
      @ManoraManYT Рік тому

      @@shawbag11 Same that is why I think if they gave park passes with it like other more expensive hotels sometimes do It would much more reasonable

  • @kadenstimpson3167
    @kadenstimpson3167 Рік тому +6

    Alright, hear me out on this idea. Disney could make a lot of cash breaking into the Vegas market (more than they already have). So here's what they do: Jabba's Palace. Buy a patch of desert and just build up a gigantic palace, and make it relatively cheap to stay in. On top of that, you gotta make it THE place to buy star wars merch. If you can think of a quote, they have it on a t shirt in every size. And here's the other idea: teach people how to play sabacc and let them gamble on it. let people play Dejarik, have a little experience where you can meet Jabba, have little simulated rancor feedings, have the buses that pick you up from the airport kitted out to look like the Sail Barge. It could be such an awesome experience, and it would fit perfectly with the direction that Vegas has been heading in in recent years (more family oriented, more branded experiences)

    • @brunhildevalkyrie
      @brunhildevalkyrie Рік тому +1

      That sounds cringy and horrible

    • @deciboo189
      @deciboo189 Рік тому

      ​@@brunhildevalkyrie buy why

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому +1

      I love that idea. Only one minor nitpick, though - I'd HARDLY call Jabba's Palace as depicted in Return of the Jedi a "family oriented" place. You're talking about the den of a crime lord, filled with all sorts of scum and villainy, not to mention scantly-clad alien women of less than consensual employment. That's about as "family oriented" as a Hooters, if the Hooters was owned by a prohibition era mob boss.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Рік тому

      Don’t forget the hookers

  • @gargamel314
    @gargamel314 Рік тому +9

    You can't expect creative stuff like this to be done forever. Successful or not, years of performing the same role takes its toll on performers and production staff alike.

  • @sandophall5152
    @sandophall5152 Рік тому +10

    Having actually gone on the starcruiser, I think the experience was fantastic and it was a lot of fun to interact heavily with the Star Wars elements that are presented on the ship. However, I do think the price is still wayyyyy to high for 2 days

    • @gustavrsh
      @gustavrsh Рік тому

      I think they could make some sessions only to diehard fans, like
      No phones allowed, and you would have to wear costumes
      If you're going to do a role playing experience at least do it all the way

  • @EdwardDanks009
    @EdwardDanks009 Рік тому +5

    We went(wife and me), it was a hoot. But seeing some people just not in a costume/star wars themed outfits killed it. They refused any of the character equipment (like helmets).

    • @renaissancenovice7202
      @renaissancenovice7202 Рік тому +1

      It's insane to me that they wouldn't provide everyone with costumes to wear for that price

    • @EdwardDanks009
      @EdwardDanks009 Рік тому

      @@renaissancenovice7202 it costs extra or you can buy one. I spent over $2k to build my armor, paint, stitch, and build my wife's jedi one. Worth it, but I had lathed aluminum slugs for heavy rifle rounds in my belt, an obvious plastic DH-17 blaster in a holster with a collapsing stock(from a nerf gun, so obviously also plastic). I didn't have the pointy bits installed yet, because I didn't want to make an issue. But I was flabbergasted that inert aluminum shells, a toy blaster, and my helmet were too much. They yelled at a 12 year old girl decked out in a Bo-Katan costume(her armor was good, but obviously not metal) when she donned her helmet.

  • @josephagundez5336
    @josephagundez5336 Рік тому +7

    I really want to hear from cast members who were apart of this and hear about their experiences. I can't imagine being in character week in and week out and having to interact with so many people all the time and still maintain my sanity. How much were the cast members and other employees being paid. Disney is expensive for sure, but I think partly the reason why they didn't lower the price was because of all the cast members and employees on payroll to make this all happen.

  • @10191927
    @10191927 Рік тому +4

    😂 I remember a comment on the Star Wars Hotel that summed it up perfectly “Why spend $6,000 when I can go LARP in the woods for free?”
    It was bound for failure, the price of the whole thing is outrageous, and closing after only a year shows Disney is losing money on it like crazy.
    I wish Disney would just embrace having fun, and stop this “premium” nonsense, that if you pay more money you’ll have the most fun instead of caring about people just having fun regardless of how much something costs.

  • @elderliddle2733
    @elderliddle2733 Рік тому +4

    Honestly I knew it wouldn’t last long from the start. Reasons:
    1. Restrictive pricing- only the wealthy could do this. It’s clear they wanted high earners to come do this, but high earners don’t tend to LARP.
    2. Lack of content- there was no difference between one week to the next. Not to mention, it was all catered to the sequels. The sequels have the lowest number of fans who fit their target demographic.
    I only took one marketing class, but from that standpoint, this was a textbook marketing disaster because they obviously didn’t do research on the size of their demographics. They just assumed people would come. Disney for the last few years has paid less attention to facts and more to subjective feelings. This is the result. There’s a reason that the State of Florida is suing them and that their investors are now suing Chapek.

    • @brunhildevalkyrie
      @brunhildevalkyrie Рік тому

      Rich people aren’t creative and don’t think as much as normal people do

    • @rhetro777
      @rhetro777 Рік тому

      Ehh, non wealthy people could just put it on their credit card and pay it off over time(I'm sure many of those people did just that). Hell, I'm far from wealthy but always have enough cash that I *could* go without any debt to worry about, but I wouldn't blow so much money on something like this.

    • @azerty1933
      @azerty1933 Рік тому

      ​@@brunhildevalkyrie rich people tend to like out of the ordinary things
      I worked in fancy places with wealthy to very wealthy clients and the main difference is new rich vs lifetime rich
      New rich tend to only get things because they are expensive and are neither creative nor thinking about if what they are buying is a good deal or not
      Lifetime rich absolutely care about what they buy, they don't look at the price but if the experience/object isn't anything special it's just not interesting to them. In restaurants they were more interested by the creative meals than the classic caviar ones
      I'm guessing you never met rich people if you think they aren't creative

  • @fazbrogaming7776
    @fazbrogaming7776 Рік тому +14

    Even though I Highly doubt it, I hope this failure will be a huge eye opener for Disney when it comes to the future of Star Wars, give the fans what they want. Perhaps this could lead to Star Wars being as good as it once was back in the EU days, if not better.
    Again Highly doubt it but who knows?

    • @bob1986
      @bob1986 Рік тому +2

      At best, at BEST Disney just decides it's not the money maker they thought it was and sell the IP off (with the stipend they get to keep the theme park license so they can keep running Galaxy's Edge and all that other stuff) back to George, or someone else willing to pay for it. Only then will the quality potentially return to what it once was. And even then I feel like it will be too late and people won't give it a chance.
      Unless Disney gets a complete restructure with all new heads of production they won't change any time soon.

  • @TeraQuad
    @TeraQuad Рік тому +5

    Could have made it a Star Wars themed hotel with character dining, and lounges. Cool pool area (Mon Cala or Kamino themed) . Massive play area that looks like Endor with jungle gyms that have are full on AT-AT, AT-ST walkers, maybe the Ewok treehouse with rope bridges..

  • @fulcrum6008
    @fulcrum6008 Рік тому +4

    I had tickets for me and the boys. Saw the videos of the people who were invited there, and I called our Disney cast member and quickly canceled our flight on the Galactic Starcruiser!

  • @paulsteinhauser434
    @paulsteinhauser434 Рік тому +6

    The price was wrong, the content was wrong the result is failure.

  • @-SpaceFrog-
    @-SpaceFrog- Рік тому +6

    I expected it to close

  • @Hyacammil
    @Hyacammil Рік тому +6

    I would argue that value was the biggest problem. Many people who spend that amount of money per night want a more personalized experience. If you are competing with others to be part of the experience the value isn't there. Not including the old star-wars characters was part of the value prop miss. Parents weren't going to see the characters they fell in love with as a child. Seeing their children happy is nice, but for that money I for one would want to re-live my childhood dream of meeting Luke, Hand and Leah.

  • @Rad_Nicole
    @Rad_Nicole Рік тому +5

    One issue is that it doesn’t look very Star Warsy. Star Wars I’d very lived in and often militaristic. This feels to generic space sci-fi and luxurious for Star Wars.

    • @nitroxylictv
      @nitroxylictv Рік тому +1

      I think they were going for the republic feel where everything is "perfect" and nice and everyone is wealthy but that doesnt justify the insane cost.

  • @mrtoonami1782
    @mrtoonami1782 Рік тому +5

    It was simply too expensive, however I wouldn't say that this type of immersive experience couldn't have worked.
    For example if they would of built it to have one half of the building look and feel like an imperial Star Destroyer.
    And the other half look like a mon calamari cruiser. It easily would of had fans interested, especially if priced appropriately.
    They could had each side of the building geared to having it's visitors feel like they were apart of their respective factions.
    With rooms for them to sleep in and to wake up to feeling as if they were apart of the Rebellion or Empire.
    They could of built a small hanger in each side with 1-2 ships and allowed visitors to get in and fly in a simulation.
    They're could of been a bridge, gunnery stations like in Star Wars battlefront for visitors to take control of the turbo-lasers.
    So many cool things they could of done, maybe even having events where each side tries to infiltrate each others ship, stuff like that.
    I honestly believe they could also be successful if they did a hotel experience with 1 side being a Jedi temple and the other a Sith temple.
    So many potentially great experiences that could of been done. It's unfortunate that they decided this would be the best to go with.
    But who knows maybe one day they will make something great for fans to go and experience after learning from this mistake.

    • @Aquacav
      @Aquacav Рік тому +1

      And they can’t make it the sequels either

  • @chosenfallen2024
    @chosenfallen2024 Рік тому +9

    When I heard about the price I gave up on it instantly. There's a few tubers i follow that went there. I figured if I didn't have big streamer money, I had no chance.😂
    I'm 6'8 and poor, so I'm use to just letting those fantasies go.

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому +2

      You're 6'8? My dude. *My dude,* why are you not in the NBA?

    • @chosenfallen2024
      @chosenfallen2024 Рік тому +3

      @@AJadedLizard
      Despite popular opinion guys like me don't like sports. Hell I've never been a sports guy. I did baseball and swim twice in highschool but was never serious about it. I prefer computers and video games.

    • @Eidlones
      @Eidlones 5 місяців тому

      @@chosenfallen2024 My man.
      *Is 6'7*

  • @draconusfrigidus
    @draconusfrigidus Рік тому +1

    I can remember when my family went to Las Vegas, for less than half that price tag (not including what we dropped in the casinos of course) and got not just a bevy of fine dinners and theatre performances, but also the Star Trek experience, which, despite amounting to just two interactive 'rides', an open floor 'museum' and Quark's bar, still felt far more immersive and true to the spirit of the franchise than what Disney cooked up with this.
    Getting to actually sit in the captain's chair on the Enterprise D bridge will forever remain a treasured memory.

  • @SargesCustoms
    @SargesCustoms Рік тому +3

    One of the comments I made a lot during the second half of its operating year was that they needed to rebrand it to an "attraction" where Galaxy Edge guests could book a lunch without show or dinner show from Monday - Thursday and keep the full adventure to maybe every weekend or every other weekend. Guests could have caught the Box Truck Shuttle from Batuu for their lunch or dinner reservation. Maybe even offer an overnight stay for those Mon-Thurs nights with a tour of the ship or something without all the story line stuff. Instead, it became a one and done with Influencers trying to push it down our throats with how awesome it was! There was no desire among us old fans to go back. Hopefully, they will relook the location and find a way to bring back some of the building to hotels / meals. And make it similar in price to the surrounding Disney hotels.

  • @Jonnyc448
    @Jonnyc448 Рік тому +2

    As someone who went on it last summer, it was okay, definitely felt overly closed off. We had a bunch of technical issues as well with our room key constantly bugging and locking us out. As compensation they gave us free drinks for the whole trip… so it wasn’t too bad. They integrated the hotel with the Star Wars part of the theme park with it being connected directly through a tunnel with missions you were assigned via an app on your phone. I’m honestly surprised it’s closing seeing as Star Wars is such a big brand with fans that I believe would pay that much to live out their fantasy. In my opinion they didn’t do enough marketing to that richer fan group. In all it was okay, nothing I’d want to do again as it kinda felt like we were trapped, but they did a good job with immersion.

  • @baskkev7459
    @baskkev7459 Рік тому +3

    think the price was the knee cap to this project. it was a cool idea. But take a average wage in the netherlands ( a pretty decent/wealth country) is about 30 to 35 k a year ( and thats low middel income). just for 1 person it would take 14% of your wage. And then you just have the hotel. Not the ticket to America, food , fun things etc. take a normal family of 2 to 3 kids. thats 20 to 25k. a ticket cost around 6 to 700 bucks. so you are already at 23000 to 27000 ......yeah...why did it fail....

  • @frankthepug9242
    @frankthepug9242 Рік тому +3

    As a kid, I went to Disney World and I was a huge Star Wars fan, and they announced the star cruiser a literal month after I left. I wanted to do it for ages with only the knowledge that it was a "Star Wars hotel" so this is actually sad for me lmao.

  • @LibraDeer
    @LibraDeer Рік тому +5

    Can't wait to see defunctland eventually cover it.

  • @le2762
    @le2762 Рік тому +3

    I believe I am one of the Star Wars fans they thought would go on the Starcruiser. I generally will but just about anything Star Wars simply because I love it so much. I am also one who goes to Disney or on a Disney cruise almost every year. All that said, however, I still felt that the Starcruiser was cost-prohibitive for the most part, and lacked the gritty, worn feeling that Star Wars is so famous for. I love Galaxy’s Edge with a passion, and thus would rather go to Galaxy’s Edge numerous times rather than attend the Starcruiser once. I know that the Starcruiser has increased immersion elements, but you can easily achieve close to the same immersion, in my opinion, by using the Play Disney app as well as other means.

  • @AlexTekle
    @AlexTekle Рік тому +8

    understand that this is the real reason disney is invested in star wars. they aren’t interested in making a rich worls of incredible stories, they want to add it to their list of fantasy resorts that fleece consumers.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому +1

      It's not even that. It's the merch that's the big selling point for an IP like Star Wars. If anything, Galactic Star Cruiser was an experiment in multiple ways. They wanted to see what they could do if they went all-in on hotel theming with no budget limit, but also wanted to see just how much people would pay for the branding and concept alone.

    • @usagifang
      @usagifang Рік тому

      Disney needs new management like now. A forceful takeover and lawsuits should do the trick.

  • @jayremi1835
    @jayremi1835 Рік тому +1

    Why didn't they adjust the price and service?? They'd rather close the entire experience than budge on the price??

  • @michaelinterbartolo3
    @michaelinterbartolo3 Рік тому +1

    the marketing was horrible. people pay far more for season tickets to their favorite sports team and they have no impact on the events whereas at least on the halcyon has 40 hour choose your own adventure, room, food, two nights entertainment, pass to park with lightning lane and the quests/puzzles. all that tech and actors improving for 40 hours does not come cheap

  • @Nemesis_T-Type
    @Nemesis_T-Type Рік тому +6

    If you told me 10 years ago that Star Wars would be in this state I wouldn't have believed you

    • @Crocthunder
      @Crocthunder Рік тому

      Bro parks are parks , the problem wasnt attendance or interest it was the fucking price

    • @rumblehat4357
      @rumblehat4357 Рік тому

      I would have told you. When Lucas sold, everyone was all excited, but I was very, very wary. I knew back then what Disney was about for a long time. They are incompetent, and have been for a long time.

    • @Nemesis_T-Type
      @Nemesis_T-Type Рік тому

      @@rumblehat4357 Disney was always evil, but back then they did Marvel right and had some good writers in their belt. Turns out not even Dave Filoni and Jon Fraveau can carry the whole franchise

    • @rumblehat4357
      @rumblehat4357 Рік тому

      @@Nemesis_T-Type I didn’t think it would be THIS bad, but I was very conscious of the fact that they weren’t to be trusted.

  • @hallking7441
    @hallking7441 Рік тому +12

    Disney knew exactly what they were doing. Milked the elites for a very underwhelming experience.

  • @christopherjolly
    @christopherjolly Рік тому +2

    They should have just built a normal hotel that was Star Wars themed and then have a bunch of those little pods you see used for roller coaster simulators and provide an immersive ride simulating a journey to orbit, reentry, and return to the hotel. Heck you could even get super fancy and have a mid-way stop at a space station and everyone can get out of the pod and look around the station before getting back in a return pod to take you back to the hotel.

  • @EzorTar
    @EzorTar Рік тому

    ok the only think i'm interested with is, what happens to the exclusive lightsaber? will i be able to get one outside of a 3k+ voyage

  • @Luks2820
    @Luks2820 Рік тому +3

    I wonder how much Disney has managed to lose with their poorly planed projects.

    • @siegel947
      @siegel947 Рік тому

      Endlich ist sich jemand mit Ivan mit gesundem Menschenverstand über die Pläne einig, anstatt nur ein oberflächlicher Trottel zu sein...Disney

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 Рік тому +2

      Enough to arm a large army.

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 Рік тому

      Not Enough!

  • @bogatyr2473
    @bogatyr2473 Рік тому +3

    Thing about it is, doesn't matter how good the experience was, how amazing they made it, the price point put it out of reach for the overwhelming majority of the fanbase.

  • @spacemanspiff3052
    @spacemanspiff3052 Рік тому +1

    I’m going to be honest, I am not going to spend a lot of cash for Star Wars swag or experiences at Disney World’s Galaxy’s Edge or even consider the excess expense of the Star Cruiser boutique hotel as long as they keep it in the Sequels format. I went to Galaxy’s Edge for the first time this Spring and found it ok . . . not great. I was frustrated by the lines and unavailability of fast pass time slots for the main ride attractions. The old Star Tours was fun, but short. I lucked out with the Rise of the Resistance ride because it kept breaking down, so slipped in during a window when it reopened after a longer breakdown period. It was all good, but if all rides, shops, merch, and character were from the original trilogy, hell even some Clone Wars and Mandalorian stuff, my willingness to wait in lines and pry open my wallet would be exponentially larger.

  • @drtaverner
    @drtaverner Рік тому +1

    $6000 is a ton of dosh, not to mention taking time off, and actually travelling to Orlando. An economy flight for a family of 4 from my town is another thousand dollars. With exchange, food, other expenses, Galaxy's Edge is well over $11,000. Then the merch you have to buy b/c you're there.
    You'd better off building a pair of VR capable Workstation-class Gaming machines with all the trimmings.

  • @ben501st
    @ben501st Рік тому +3

    I'm curious if it truly was a business failure. Just because it's closing doesn't mean it failed. A short run could have been what was planned.

    • @rhetro777
      @rhetro777 Рік тому +3

      It's highly unlikely that they even recouped the costs in such a short time, especially with it not being popular.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Рік тому +1

      Disney’s blow A LOT of money on Star Wars that they haven’t recouped. I’ve read a couple of detailed (and very fair) analysis of Disney’s SW investment. The more comprehensive analyst figured that Disney was probably $2 billion in the hole on its Lucasfilm purchase as of January, 2020. That was right before the lockdown, of course, and it didn’t factor in stuff like The Starcruiser.

    • @doomsday9973
      @doomsday9973 Рік тому +1

      LMAO! That is NOT what was planned. there is no positive spin from this for Disney. Zero.

  • @alexjohnson439
    @alexjohnson439 Рік тому +12

    1 like = 64 dolphin ball bag sacs

    • @zays_mentos
      @zays_mentos Рік тому

      Idk what you're planning but I'll support it

  • @Silverhawk100
    @Silverhawk100 Рік тому +1

    Talked with a couple who went. They said they were the exact target demographic (wealthy star wars fans) and as such they enjoyed it, but they described it as an experience, not as something to do multiple times. They also said it's clearly not for everyone, they really only recommended it if you were hardcore fans. So this is no surprise to me. It'd have to periodically reinvent itself to entice repeat customers back.

    • @Daniel-415-Ponce
      @Daniel-415-Ponce Рік тому

      But the design aesthetics were all wrong - - cheap-looking generic 1980's sci-fi - - and most hardcore fans prefer the Original Trilogy and/or the Prequel Trilogy eras of the saga, not Disney's inane Sequel Trilogy films with Rey and the First Order. And where were all the droids and alien characters for this so-called immersive experience? There should have been quality animatronic characters of familiar alien species and droid models all over that damn starcruiser to rival or surpass what Disney achieved decades ago with attractions such as Pirates of the Caribbean. Instead, all we got was a blue-skinned space-Karen captain, a Twi'Lek popstar diva with a New Age name (Gaia) singing about "the new world," and a mute female Rodian DJ. I won't even count the guy with the guitar and red face makeup, because with his shabby pirate outfit he looked like a homeless substance-addicted street musician from the Haight Ashbury district of San Francisco. As a lifelong Star Wars fanatic who use to buy and collect all kinds of merch connected to the saga (e.g., books, comics, toys, soundtrack albums, t-shirts, calendars, bed linens, etc.), I had carefully watched the videos posted on UA-cam by the various "influencers" who had documented almost every minute and aspect of their privileged preview starcruiser experience before the hotel had opened for the general public, and the one word I could think and feel to summarize my impression of it all was: L-A-M-E! I would not have paid even $60 for this pseudo Star Wars experience, let alone the ridiculous asking price of $6,000. Amazing and a shame how Disney could invest so much money in this disastrous boondoggle, and still get everything so wrong while delivering a product of poor value that fails to meet even the most minimal expectations of true fans.

  • @CMCustom112
    @CMCustom112 Рік тому +2

    Cant feel a sense of Immersion when all the other Guests have Cell phones out inches away from the actors faces the entire time. And for that price, who needed the annoyance?

  • @Chef_PC
    @Chef_PC Рік тому +9

    I’m guessing it was a trial run for something “bigger” and open to more people. Even the marketing statement they put out hinted that it was a dev project for smaller numbers of rooms so they could see what worked and didn’t, then scale it properly on the next iteration. It always felt like a test phase for something else.

  • @lonewolf9578
    @lonewolf9578 Рік тому +5

    At this point Kennedy has to have some major dirt on the higher ups to still have a job

    • @Crocthunder
      @Crocthunder Рік тому +1

      You realize park stuff like this isnt really a KK thing, shes there to lend the IP but the parks are ran by Disney core

  • @Armann_
    @Armann_ Рік тому +2

    Prices way too high, expectations high, extra expensive high, yepp.. really should have been fun for all instead of destroying it.

  • @joshuashackelford6696
    @joshuashackelford6696 Рік тому +2

    Disney has lost their way. They no longer seem to care about affordable family fun. They have made it clear they don’t want locals to come often with their ever higher prices and policies.

  • @eddieram435
    @eddieram435 Рік тому +15

    Epic fail for Disney Star Wars which is music to my ears.

  • @christopherdaane2538
    @christopherdaane2538 Рік тому +3

    😮

  • @keysontrains538
    @keysontrains538 Рік тому +1

    honestly with their expansive fleet I’m surprised it WASNT an actual cruise. I mean surely there was some quiet corner in an older ship that could have been revamped? or even just some theming and acts to plan out.

  • @carthienesdevilsadvocatenr2806

    Making a proper "Hotel but in Star Wars" is one idea, but they could also take this interactive experience and shorten it. Treat it as an extension of Galaxies Edge and let fans immerse themselves for a few hours on a day trip, rather than adding the expense of stretching it out.
    Or, if they're really wedded to the idea of making a Star Wars Cruise Ship... make it an Actual Cruise Ship. River or ocean, it depends what they can get and what they're actually aiming for.

  • @hyperionman420
    @hyperionman420 Рік тому +25

    Not even *trying* to make it more affordable before reaching for the axe. Disney. Capitalism.

    • @boosterh1113
      @boosterh1113 Рік тому +5

      Probably couldn't.
      The facility was built at the scale it was, the shows were written (and staffed, and provided with environments & props) at the scale they were. You can't really retrofit that to be a more mass-market friendly experience without pouring even more money into a major refit, and even then it probably won't be profitable (just less of a loss), so why throw good money after bad?
      Better to take what you've learned, and spend 2-4 years designing and building a new product that can more cost effectively serve a wider consumer base.

    • @konata8657
      @konata8657 Рік тому +5

      ugh a cringe capitalism comment

    • @hyperionman420
      @hyperionman420 Рік тому

      @@konata8657 yeah megacorp disney trying to squeeze every drop out of the star wars IP by selling a "cruise" with a 6-10+k per family price tag to the masses during a time of covid/ukraine based inflation and failing is indeed a capitalism maybe. I think whatever right-wing freak channel that might tell you it's because the sequels are retarded and disney are woke homosexual child traffickers might not be telling you the bigger picture

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 Рік тому +2

      Was probably operating on the margins from the start, high staff to guest ratio.

  • @mason0450
    @mason0450 Рік тому +4

    #AskEck How would the political battle between the governor of Florida and Disney affect Star Wars, especially in perhaps a worst case scenario where Disney leaves Florida?

    • @Scott.webb64
      @Scott.webb64 Рік тому +4

      Disney isnt gonna leave florida anytime soon. Even with the drama, the florida theme parks print money. That being said, they wont be expanding what they already have. California and probably Georgia (due to the love film/tv has been getting) are chomping at the bit to get more stuff so id imagine they will just focus their attention and more importantly money there.

    • @thedarksaber
      @thedarksaber Рік тому +1

      It's a question for eck of course but I don't think Disney will move it's Florida park. It's been there for half a century

    • @CaseyCollier
      @CaseyCollier Рік тому +4

      They're not leaving Florida. You'd have to be insane to think Disney would leave, considering all the time, money, and resources they've invested in their parks there. There's also the question of, "where would they even go?" As far as I know, there's really nowhere else in the country that is such a popular destination for tourists and has the open land they'd need to build their theme parks.

    • @shaunw9092
      @shaunw9092 Рік тому +4

      Ron DeSantis has basically lost the political battle anyway with some impressive legal maneuvering by Disney.

    • @CaseyCollier
      @CaseyCollier Рік тому +4

      @@shaunw9092
      You've got to be kidding, right? Please tell me you're joking.

  • @aelminiatures
    @aelminiatures Рік тому +1

    i think also having it as sequal style doesn't help. if the'd set it in the empire age or slightly after (mandotime) it might help a little bit with the whole park.

  • @Snufflegrunt
    @Snufflegrunt Рік тому +1

    I went to Secret Cinema about 10 years ago, before the Disney deal was finalised, to experience A New Hope and then watch Empire. That was the most immersive SW experience ever - staff treated me like a Jedi because I was dressed as one, and I was completely immersed. It felt like I was in Mos Eisley. Sure, it only lasted about 6-7 hours, but the cost? Just under $100.

  • @v4skunk739
    @v4skunk739 Рік тому +2

    Unexpected? Starwars is dying, Marvel dying. Disney is screwed. It's all a joke.

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 Рік тому +1

      George Lucas couldn’t have been such a fool to trust Disney. They must have blackmailed him.

  • @supermodestmouse
    @supermodestmouse Рік тому +1

    I love how they criticized luxury and opulence in tlj with the casino planet side mission...and then made their own lmao. We went to wdw for 8 days for less than it would cost for this weekend. And instead of lowering prices or trying to find the "sweet spot" to meet consumers, they just cut their $2b losses.

  • @xman5393
    @xman5393 Рік тому

    I remember going to disney as a kid and I also remember going to an actual resort in panama as a kid, guess which one I liked more? (the resort had a buffet with a different food theme every night I loved it)

  • @ironcladnomad5639
    @ironcladnomad5639 Рік тому +1

    There's no divorcing the lackluster experience they were offering from the overblown cost of it all. I'm not much of a theme park or cruise enthusiast, and this did nothing to change that. I'm also not much of a Star Wars fan these days, and this did nothing to change that, either.
    I also love how they can't even indirectly admit to failure.

  • @starkiller18
    @starkiller18 Рік тому +1

    I really wanted to go experience the galactic star cruiser but there is now way I could justify that kind of cost. hell my average week long Vegas trip is only around 1-1.5k and that is for a week of drinking, gambling, fancy meals and shows. and even for me that is stretching it.

  • @vile46
    @vile46 Рік тому

    The dog is 🎉back yeah! Love your videos and how open you review the Star Wars universe. Thank you

  • @Stormcastlecomics
    @Stormcastlecomics Рік тому

    I love Disney and GE is amazing but even I thought the price was just nuts. For the same cost you could get almost 2 weeks at a moderate resort with meals and tickets into the park. Maybe if they decide to cut the cost later and change the story up they might get more people to visit but they just didn't think this anywhere through.

  • @chaptermasterosiris7936
    @chaptermasterosiris7936 Рік тому

    Here’s what I think Disney should do moving forward: 1. They should make it a bigger hotel with fewer experiences. Have some animatronics in some inaccessible areas, and have the staff dressed up, and maybe once a day have one of 20-30 diffrent events play out using actors from Galaxy’s edge. Most of the “events” can be stuff like Star whales or fighter battles going on in the “windows” to cut costs.
    2. Make more “Galaxy’s Edges.” This is more a wish list thing, but being able to visit Naboo, Navarro, and maybe even Coruscant and buy /experience different things in different areas would encourage people to get the package. Why? Well, because you put these different lands way away from one another, and include free transit (themed, of course) in the experience.
    3. With the lower cost should come more opportunities to make microtransactions. Not the way Disney did it, but the way Nintendo Land did it. You should be able to buy a band while there that lets you interact with terminals, make animatronics say certain things, or alter window events. Not just in your room, but also in the lobby, restaurant, etc. that way more people get the magic on their first trip (through others buying/using bands) and are more likely to return and perhaps buy and use a band themselves.

  • @jameskelly3502
    @jameskelly3502 Рік тому

    When I was a teenager, there was a movie theater that everyone in the area referred to as "The $2 theater"
    (I'll let you guess why)
    It had only 2 screens, limited hours, the seats sucked, sometimes the projectors crapped out, and it played movies that were no longer in regular theaters, but were also not yet available on VHS or DVD.
    People lost interest in this theater, and attendance fell off dramatically.
    One day, they announced that the theater was closing permanently.
    Well, after that, people flocked to the theater because it was going to be people's "last chance" to watch a movie at this theater.
    The theater ended up staying open for several more years after that.
    It wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened to this hotel.

  • @joshuamcmillan6390
    @joshuamcmillan6390 Рік тому

    I thought they were going to introduce a new premium "Star Wars" deck aboard one of the cruise liners. Think about it this way: you could theme off an entire Star Wars deck, requiring a "special key" to unlock (safety kept in mind, the doors can be opened easily in an emergency), and BOOM, you take the inner, cheaper and most uninspired views of the cruise liner and transform it into an incredible Star Wars experience. Rough waves? Have a battle erupt, causing the Star Wars cruise ship to rock between the battling ships.
    For a two night experience, Disney was out of their minds to price the hotel. But a special deck aboard the cruiseline? Now the price point makes sense, especially for a week. They could've charged even more...
    Even better! To get on the cruise, you start in Batuu, your luggage "automagically" transported from your resort (booked one night OR your luggage checked in before a day in the park), and to board, you go to the space depot. One immersive bus stop later, you get on one of Disney's flagship cruiseliners, and then you enter into a premium deck that takes you to another galaxy far, far away, on your way to a remote destination in the Outer Rim...

  • @zeira1188
    @zeira1188 Рік тому +1

    Putting aside the price and the experience. I think another reason as to why it shut down is Disney’s ongoing fight with the Florida government(where it was located)

    • @Daniel-415-Ponce
      @Daniel-415-Ponce Рік тому

      No, it was an ill-conceived flop destined to fail regardless of any political intrigue happening in the real world.

  • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
    @MaxwellAerialPhotography Рік тому +2

    Wow a horrifically overpriced hotel that has only one real attraction from a brand that has seriously overplayed its hand, who would have ever fucking guessed.

  • @into_the_void
    @into_the_void Рік тому +1

    6000 usd ?! If they gave guests an unlimited amount of spice (from the spice mines of Kessel) , a few Huttese slave-girls and case of Jawa juice then i might consider it

  • @brandonmadigan7523
    @brandonmadigan7523 Рік тому

    Looking at it i have a few ideas about how they could have improved it. Projection: instead of what looks like every window is an screen , use some of that Soarin tech to project outside regular windows.
    Looking at it seems like it was claustrophobic. Like a REAL cruise ship have a rooftop "force field" open area that people can look out on the stars safely.
    Not sure why it was so expensive ... My wife and i went on a 7 day alaska cruise for less than 6000 bucks. And it was great.
    New hotel idea... Just have it be a hotel ON Battu... Same architecture as Galaxys edge.

  • @michaeldavis1308
    @michaeldavis1308 Рік тому

    Great thoughts bro.. but I THINK THE COST OF A 800 to 1000 person hotel.. with the character actor performers... It would be great...

  • @matthewfinkenbinder5846
    @matthewfinkenbinder5846 Рік тому +1

    Sadly, at the same time they charged those rates ACTUAL cruises have been cheap. Result. 2 people could go on a legit week long cruise in an upgraded room then follow up with a weekend at a convention for less than half the price it costs for the 2 day cosplay lockdown.