The level of heel that wrestling had in those days was amazing. Sid, Flair, DiBiase, Michaels, IRS, Martel. Hell, Savage was a heel the year before for the Warrior match. I do miss these days. Thanks for the videos guys.
I loved pipers promo but didn't think Bret was bad the whole reason people liked him he was serious and calm and just there to kick ass which was great in a time people are tired of the over the top cartoon dudes
Oh hey! This Roddy vs Bret match is the moment supereyepatchwolf talked about in his Heel video haha, showing how great story works as heels, and the later Bret moment doing it as well as the Japanese heel dude kneeling to the legend
I listened to an old interview with Sherri and she said that the whole "throw her down on the mat and pose" thing was actually her idea and she had to talk both vince and shawn into doing it, she also said that ultimate warrior was always really gentle with her even when he threw her out of the ring at randy savage during the '91 royal rumble
Sherri's one of the few people who "gets" the industry, and when you're younger it's easier to miss it but looking back now it's really obvious how good she was. Shame she's passed away, I'd love to hear some more shoot interviews with her, I'll bet she had some great stories...
In the HBK documentary that's on peacock now, HBK claims he came up with treating her like that and that she didn't really like it or something like that. I know for sure he took credit for doing that, tho. It seems more likely that sharri came up with doing it. Not that it really matters. I've just never know sherri has said that.
Don’t know if you guys are aware of it at this point - years later - but the Oscar winning film Dances With Wolves has recently come out with great success. In that film, the first word that Kevin Costner’s character learns of the Native American tribe is tatanka.
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absolutely! Piper was probably in the best shape of his career for this match. It might be the best technical wrestling match of Pipers career as well. Bret REALLY knew how to bring the best out of everyone around him
I had this on VHS and besides Warrior returning (even though 7 year old me thought it was a Marty or someone dressed as him) the Bret/Piper match was amazing!
I was as much a Hogan mark as most kids at the time, but Sid was my absolute favourite. Partly because the psycho gimmick was fun, but mostly due to the chokeslams and powerbombs. In the era of big leg drops, sleeper holds, and running power slams, that shit stood out a mile.
Randy Savage will go down in history as the most entertaining WWF wrestler of allll time! I mean how could you compare Hogan to Machoman Randy Savage? Savage was on another planet!
I agree I thought the same thing back then. Savage was the total package. The best. Too bad Hogan was so threatened by him he made sure to always steal his spot light, but real fans know who was the best
I think Macho Man's jacket was made from one of those Magic Eye 3D posters because my eyes were wigging out looking at the back of it during his promo.
1:00:27 the lady with the big blonde hair and polka dot dress holding up the Elizabeth poster is the same lady who was seen crying in the PPV when Elizabeth beat up Sherri and she came back to Randy.
@@nppj1407 You know DDP is a generous dude when he's willing to wife swap despite being married to certified 12/10 Kimberly, because honestly any swapping her with someone else would be classified as charity.
@@JackgarPrime Literally a goddess. I’m surprised he’s still here, to be honest. If I was married to her and then we broke up, I’d kill myself in a heartbeat.
I was there. First ever live wrestling show for me. I was 11. I was pissed that the British Bulldog's match with the Berzerker was canceled. Hogan-Sid was an abbreviated version of every other Hogan match in history. The entire second half of the show was rushed due to time constraints. However, the WWF Championship match was very good, and the Intercontinental Championship match was outstanding.
Hhhm yeah and no. The story of the match was that Savage had Flair beat again and again but Flair and Prefect kept cheating him out of the win, so Savage in frustration turned the tables in a by any means necessary way to defend Elizabeth's honour! Least that's what I saw (besides Randy was always a little bit 'salty' in the ring 😁)
HBK's foot gained superpowers over a few years. in 1992 the superkick was just a normal spot. Funny how a few years fter the same kick became something that completly knocked guys out
That actually could make sense in kayfabe since the idea of a finisher is that a wrestler has practiced a given otherwise ordinary move so much he has mastered its subtleties and it is far more effective from him than from someone else. The announcers could point that out. And if they could show a montage of the kick being normal, then more effective, then more effective still, and then the finisher-level move it was, they could build its credibility even more.
@@clinteldorado One day I have to look up what he actually did, all I remember is he could get into fights with anyone over his writing. Then something about trans people?
@@InaudibleSlinky In short, he's a massive transphobe. Almost passionately so, to the point that he'll just harrass trans people online without provocation (at least, until he was banned from Twitter).
@@stuartdunlop8834 I'll have to look that up now, weird that he'd be hung up on that, I suppose his anal retentive nature couldn't stay on the quality of his writing forever.
I was at WRESTLEMANIA 8 and Sid got some cheers, while Hogan got a pretty big pop. Hogan went right into the ring with his music still playing and Sid attacked him. Hogan knocked Sid to the outside and then the other scuffles occurred, followed by the ripping off the shirt, and all of this happened while the music was still playing. That music played forever. Exactly the way you explained it was pretty much the way it happened. Sid had just turned heel but a lot of fans still liked him so he got a lot of cheers. Ultimate Warrior got the biggest pop of the night and deservedly so.
Rowdy was a man that truly loved working in wrestling. His ring psychology and ability to work the crowd was outstanding. You can see how much it hurt him when kayfabe was left behind. Jesse Ventura always said that Piper was his only "lead" into the wrestling world. He was great in so many ways and passed away too young.
When Flair gigs, it looks like he keeps his hand steady holding the razor and moves his head across it instead of what someone’s first instinct would be, which is to keep your head steady and blade with your hand. Such a little thing but it’s like an “Oh, DUH!” moment with how it helps cover it up and make the motions look organic. Wonder if he’s one of those madlads who keeps the gig in his mouth until it’s time.
Flair was known to keep the blade taped up in one of his fingers as a matter of fact, as Jim Cornette once revealed. He'd have a thin strip covering up a piece of the blade, and then once time to blade came he would pull the tape, blade, and put it back. Simple but extremely effective.
The Intercontinental Championship lost it’s prestige long before Cena. It was in 1999 when people like Val Venus, Road Dogg, Godfather and Chyna won it. That killed the belt to the point where even when Jericho, Angle and Benoit came along a year later the damage had already been done.
Yea that's about right cuz that's when it stopped being a stepping stone to the world title. The year before that you had the Rock and HHH fighting for the title on their way up the card.
Genuinely think you have to be a bit older and appreciate psychology for it to become amazing. At the time I was just freaked by Bret being busted open!
IC title match is legendary. The spot with Piper and the bell is the kind of stuff you don't see in wrestling anymore. The crowd participation aspect is just wonderful.
It’s a spot that can’t exist anymore bc of both the way wrestling is and what we expect as fans. Nowadays, most fans expect high spot after high spot after high spot. And for the most part that’s what we get. For as much as I disagree with a lot of what Jim Cornette says I agree that nowadays guys don’t sell except for the finish they just get up and look to move on to the next spot. The only way a moment like that can happen is if a guy is selling heavy mid match and allows the time for that set up to fall into place. With the exception of like the very very best. Like omega, Moxley, Seth Rollins, Okada, Bryan Danielson, you simply don’t get this type of in match storytelling anymore.
Jake wasn't selling that Taker was getting up after getting hit with DDTs because Jake already understood that Taker came from the darkside, and he knew he would sit up. Jake acting flustered like all of the other guys prior, would have made Jake look bad, especially after he spent the 8-9 months before that, professing how he knew Satan himself, and the darkside, and everything in between. He knew it would take more, to truly put Taker down...….which is why he went after Bearer. He knew who controlled the power of the Undertaker.
Titles not changing hands on a DQ or Count Out has never made any sense. No heel with a title would ever have any incentive to stay in the ring or avoid getting DQ'ed. Every match with a heel champ would have to be a DQ, falls count everywhere.
@@RyanAcidhedzMurphy Outside of Kayfabe it makes sense 'cause it gives the booker "outs" so the face has a way to not win the belt without technically losing. Inside of Kayfabe it still makes some sense. Not all heels are of the cowardly variety, and many heels would still want to prove they are better than the faces. It's a pride thing.
@@RyanAcidhedzMurphy it's actually a great plot device. If I remember correctly from when i was young The Honkey Tonk Man went on a massive heel run as IC champion by coming to the ring getting the crap kicked out of him and then doing something to get DQ'd or counted out. To be followed by promos insisting he was the greatest wrestler of all time. Nuclear heat. Everybody hated that guy. He was amazingly punchable.
Biggest complaint of the Savage/Flair feud...if the pics were really just Savage and Liz all along, wouldn't Savage have been like "Um. You idiot. That's our horse. I remember taking that pic."
Clearly, Piper only did the clean job because it was his friend and genuinely great wrestler Bret. He's almost never let anyone else go over on him clean. That's also why this is the only title Piper ever really had. Holding a title means eventually having to lose it, and you can't lose a title if you never let anyone beat you clean.
When I was watching at the age of 14 back then, me and my mates couldn't help but notice Jake's head was 3 feet off the floor with that tombstone. So bad. lol
@Danni Biz he better get as many titles reigns as he can. I can see Hogan converting to Judaism just so as he can get to the same heaven and upstage him in his own matches 😉
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My mom wasnt aware of it yet, but she was pregnant with my older brother when she went on Spacemountain 4 decades ago....he was born with an eleventh toe as a result...
I was at Wrestlemania 8 During the Piper/Hart match when Piper grabbed the bell and was going to hit Hart with it. The crowd was booing I was screaming DO IT!!!!
I now live in NC around the Lumbee tribe and my husband is a member of the tribe. The noise the Lumbee dancers made as they left the ring is their call. They do it at powwows, sporting events, etc to show excitement, support etc. Also, the name Chavis in this area of the US is pronounced Chay-vis. It’s local dialect.
I've re-listened to an OSW bit more than "Messi ... Pele ... Narcissus" and "Hm...This match is good ya" ! XD I could tell this another million times but you lads are so awesome !
The thing that has always bothered me about Money inc: the millionaire and the tax man should be natural enemies. Best I can surmise is IRS is a crooked tax man but it was never shown he was taking DiBiase's money. If he did, he'd have nightmares about not declaring it.
Lol it was said (by Bobby Heenan) that Dibiase paid a whole 28cents in tax for that year, so I think its assumed they were scratching each other's backs. Like big millionaire companies get tax cuts maybe....
From what I recall, Irwin R. Schyster and Ted Dibiase we're in cahoots. IRS was the mdm's tax man and was paid off. lol pretty funny gimmicks and angles. 😂
Brothers, i´am 41 years old. THIS was my first Wrestling-Event... and I was addicted from now on. I wachted this on VHS > 15 times and I still remember most of the moments and moves the dudes did in the ring. Thanks man for this recall
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Can't wait for next review, I was lucky enough to be there at Wembley that day. Its going to be weird watching a review of a wwf show event I actually went to, an extra nostalgia boost
I've watched most OSW episodes like 10 times each, it's always fun to go back to an old episode and listen to the guys talk about a storyline that they ended up covering down the line, like that Lex/Tatanka storyline at 1:13:25 now we have that match in episode OSW #91 SummerSlam 1994.
They absolutely blew it with Sid during his first Fed run. He looked amazing, had great matches, the fans were super behind him. He really could have been their next Hogan, but Vince didn't come through with anything he was promised
You guys are just fricking awesome I love the insightful way u describe all these events from my childhood love the channel and not forgetting the banter u have with each other.
Hogan looking peak juiced here. The oil and tan. Those arms @ 1:29:38 even compared to Sid, good god! And Sid is a massive built guy like Kane. Just amazing.
kinda skipped over that nasty boys, repoman & mountie promo. one of the funniest promos i've ever seen. massive amounts of cocaine had to of went missing before that interview.
You guys had me hacking up a lung I was laughing so hard! When you compared the ref in the opening bout to a Lego man I just lost it. I had to pause it and take note...the shape of his head and the state of his haircut it's uncanny how accurate that analogy was. Amazing! Also the Sheri version of "Sexy Boy" is the best version of Shawn Michael's theme, no doubt.
@@TheKillingJoker1980 Yeah, I've wondered what happened to him too. You don't see him at WWE shows anymore. What gives? Did he stop being a wrestling fan? Did his connections dry up and he can't get tickets anymore? (Word is he was friends with people in the business who got him tickets all the time.) Or did something bad happen to him?
@@TheKillingJoker1980 last I saw him he was front row for the ecw reboot in hammerstein ballroom in 06, the one where show and Batista get shit on lol. Hope he's still kicking, maybe he'll show up at an AEW show lol
I found your reviews recently and seem to spend all my time watching them! Right trip down memory lane and the little bits of info about the changes etc etc are great - how do you find so much info? Keep em coming lads
I feel bad for Marty Jannetty He's with UWA Elite which is a Jersey promotion and oh my god fuck all they wrestle in bingo halls 25 people are lucky enough to pay $2 to see trash wrestling just because they hear Jannetty and think "Shawn's Tag Team partner? Oh I have to see this."
I think WM 8 is the most enigmatic of Manias. I read somewhere WM 7 was the last of the classic of the Manias. But between the double main event toss up and Hogan deciding to retire instead of facing Flair for the title, etc. and Taker getting buried in the card after headlining storylines for months, etc., I dunno, this one could have been so much better. Taker vs Flair for the title, Hogan vs Bret, Savage vs. Shawn Michaels just to shake it up and usher in, pre-preemptively the new generation, etc., I dunno. WM 7 would have been a strange card had they gone with storyline versus their Hogan-centric booking. Savage-Slaughter and Hogan vs. Warrior 2 would have done better. John's intro is great. He's a great guy from Toronto! Or do the Beefer Hogan vs IRS match a year earlier. Thoughts on Jake at WM? You guys seem to lean towards an idea that he doesn't bring it for the big mania matches (WM 6 and 2 and even 3 I think you are not so impressed by his work). Was Jake the most misused superstar for the first run of Manias? Discuss. Or don't. Overall I think 8 is a good mania, better than 9 and even 10 to a degree, but the Hart and HBK matches are key and incredible. They just should have given them their pushes a bit earlier. But when you have Hogan Flair Savage you tend to give Taker and Hart and HBK lesser roles. Like a WCW wet dream, WM 8.
Wow. I could see that match line up working a year later but not at 8. Takers turn was far too fresh, and as they proved later in the year Bret vs Shawn was nothing special at this time!
I'm pretty sure that Jake gave his notice maybe 30mins or so before walking down the aisle. He says he was promised Pat Pattersons role (or more likely a road agents role). Vince said nope to Jake in regards to Pattersons role so Jake left.
WIth the crowd sound altering for Hogan/Sid on this PPV, I wonder that if 10 years from now, all the boos that John Cena gets will be filtered out on WWE video...
I saw this live on PPV in 1992. There was no sounds altering or dubbing for Sid/Hogan. They booed Sid and cheered Hogan. The music did play long during the entrance until the bell rang.
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the sweetening done on Jay's version, where cheers were added for Sid, and which would fit with what you two remember.
From 1979 to 1998 the Intercontinental Championship changed hands 49 times. From 1999 to 2002 the Intercontinental Championship changed hands 42 times.
Crowd went insane when Warrior came out. But keep in mind, they are in the Hoosier DOME, not Market Square Arena, The dome, domes anywhere.....will eat up a pop. Whether its wrestling, the final 4 for basketball, or a super bowl. It took 93,000 to generate the pops that Hogan and Steamboat got in Mania 3, and they still should have/would have been louder anywhere else but the dome.
I love this channel. I wish you guys would do '93 on through for the WWF, some of it's so bad that's it's good...like a good B movie if you will. Then attitude era PPVs, oh man. Thanks for the content you have provided!
They have and they are. They've done some Attittude Era PPVs, and they're currently working through the Lex Express angle. Just look up the other videos on this channel, they're not hard to find. Jay is currently editing the video for Summerslam '93, and I am eagerly awaiting its drop because I've never watched the PPV before.
i watched this ppv live back in 92...and Sid's cheer was not the same as Hogans...Hogans was much larger...and Hulk's music stayed on for a long time too...and the crowd went crazy, when Hulk threw two right hands after jumping over Sid.
This was the first wrestling I ever saw. Flair vs. Savage was the match made me fall in love with it. 12 year old me knew I should be going for Savage but I was really curious about that centrefold. My mind was blown when Savage one. I remember being is disbelief. I have nothing but love for that match.
The aisle of the arena is so fucking long that Hogan shouldn't have gone for the finish until he saw Papa Shango walk to the ring. So the screw up in the main event is not totally Shango's fault.
. Man I am loving this channel guys. It's been just the escape I've needed. You're hilarious but your love for wrestling and making each other laugh is on another level completely. By far one of the best wrestling channels I've ever seen Again thanks for the brief respite and escapism you've gave me. It's been great watching your work . Great job lads. Thank you .🙏🙏👏👏..
32:00 It’d only take 10 years from this point for the IC to become important again - all because Gunther is the future and Hogan pt2 has the main belts.
The level of heel that wrestling had in those days was amazing. Sid, Flair, DiBiase, Michaels, IRS, Martel. Hell, Savage was a heel the year before for the Warrior match.
I do miss these days. Thanks for the videos guys.
Also, Bobby Heenan
Mountie feels left out
"If he was going any slower he'd be scootching on his arse up the ramp"
I fuckin lost it.
Pretty sure that line won a "Golden N" award... Pure class
I loved pipers promo but didn't think Bret was bad the whole reason people liked him he was serious and calm and just there to kick ass which was great in a time people are tired of the over the top cartoon dudes
Oh hey! This Roddy vs Bret match is the moment supereyepatchwolf talked about in his Heel video haha, showing how great story works as heels, and the later Bret moment doing it as well as the Japanese heel dude kneeling to the legend
I know that Papa Shango claims that he was waiting at the exit ready to go but they gave him the signal late
I listened to an old interview with Sherri and she said that the whole "throw her down on the mat and pose" thing was actually her idea and she had to talk both vince and shawn into doing it, she also said that ultimate warrior was always really gentle with her even when he threw her out of the ring at randy savage during the '91 royal rumble
Sherri was great. She was one of the smartest women in wrestling history. She could have been a good booker if she had ever decided to book.
Hammerhead547 Sherri was very creative and took advantage of any opportunity - excellent team player
Sherri's one of the few people who "gets" the industry, and when you're younger it's easier to miss it but looking back now it's really obvious how good she was. Shame she's passed away, I'd love to hear some more shoot interviews with her, I'll bet she had some great stories...
Warrior may have been a dick but it was said he was a gentleman. In the devil has some class
In the HBK documentary that's on peacock now, HBK claims he came up with treating her like that and that she didn't really like it or something like that. I know for sure he took credit for doing that, tho. It seems more likely that sharri came up with doing it. Not that it really matters. I've just never know sherri has said that.
Don’t know if you guys are aware of it at this point - years later - but the Oscar winning film Dances With Wolves has recently come out with great success. In that film, the first word that Kevin Costner’s character learns of the Native American tribe is tatanka.
BUFFALO! I didn't! But thank u, great bit of trivia
FUCK TATANKA!
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4:14 Calvin Harris "Acceptable in the 80s"
4:33 Back to the Future "Something's Changed"
5:32 Calvin Harris "Acceptable in the 80s" (Instrumental)
24:26 Red Dead Redemption "Main Theme"
1:27:42 Megadeth "Duke Nukem"
1:43:40 Shadowrun (SNES) "Chilling Reintroduction"
1:52:54 Vince Frates "Dreamchild"
1:52:47 Chris Jericho 1st "Countdown"
1:58:55 FantomenK "Neo Geo" (Inst)
MORTAL KOMBAT MUSIC:
2:11 MKII "Prologue"
47:05 MK1 The Pit (SNES)
7:46 MK2 VS Screen
1:59:27 MKII Epilogue
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you wanna see a good blade job, watch steve corino vs tajiri. corino's blonde hair went full crimson
Thank you for all the knowledge!
Gotta love that RDR theme. You could put it into any western flick and it would slap !
Also, I believe that’s the Mega Drive pit theme, not SNES
Actually one of my favorite manias ever, Piper vs. The Hitman for the IC title is legendary!
Me too I loved it...piper was a class act.
Yes! Such an underrated Mania classic.
Piper was great.
absolutely! Piper was probably in the best shape of his career for this match. It might be the best technical wrestling match of Pipers career as well.
Bret REALLY knew how to bring the best out of everyone around him
I had this on VHS and besides Warrior returning (even though 7 year old me thought it was a Marty or someone dressed as him) the Bret/Piper match was amazing!
Lads, I'm sorry, but RE: "What barrr?" is Macho this episode - he's blatantly a Twix!
Chocolate eclair surely?
It's always funny to see early 90's HBK hit a superkick and then I have to slowly realize that it's not his finish yet, so it doesn't insta-critical.
At this point he has not used his feats, tuning up the band raises critical chances obviously
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Everybody knows athletes get better with age.
oh yeah, I completely forgot his finisher was the flying elbow back in the day
@@AdamFink83Nope. Teardrop suplex. At least, back then it was.
Harvey Wippleman was only 26 when he was the manager of Sid in the main event of Wrestlemania. and looked like he was ready for an AARP card.
James Bonnen are you serious? he's one of those people who looks like he was born old!!
He sure did
he looked like FUCKING 46 years old!
26? What have I done with my life?
The Jerry Lynn of managers.
I was as much a Hogan mark as most kids at the time, but Sid was my absolute favourite.
Partly because the psycho gimmick was fun, but mostly due to the chokeslams and powerbombs.
In the era of big leg drops, sleeper holds, and running power slams, that shit stood out a mile.
Randy Savage will go down in history as the most entertaining WWF wrestler of allll time! I mean how could you compare Hogan to Machoman Randy Savage? Savage was on another planet!
Yeah, LITERALLY, Most Days . . . . . . . : 0 )
It's weird because back in the day I would definitely say that I was more of a Hogan fan but these days I'd say I appreciate Savage a lot more.
As was Brett heart
Savage’s reign in 88-89 was truly a unique and exciting time in the WWF. And Savage got the best out of Hogan in their Wrestlemania V match.
I agree I thought the same thing back then. Savage was the total package. The best. Too bad Hogan was so threatened by him he made sure to always steal his spot light, but real fans know who was the best
I think Macho Man's jacket was made from one of those Magic Eye 3D posters because my eyes were wigging out looking at the back of it during his promo.
1:00:27 the lady with the big blonde hair and polka dot dress holding up the Elizabeth poster is the same lady who was seen crying in the PPV when Elizabeth beat up Sherri and she came back to Randy.
Which plant!? Haha they totally should do that as a what bar!? Spin off
Haha yeah nice pick up. I can't believe as a kid I really thought those audience reactions were real.
DDP is a saint. God bless that dude.
Yeah I haven’t heard one bad thing about him
Hell yeah. Plus the wife swapping thing with Bischoff and his wife with Kimberley. Hell yeah.
@@nppj1407 You know DDP is a generous dude when he's willing to wife swap despite being married to certified 12/10 Kimberly, because honestly any swapping her with someone else would be classified as charity.
@@JackgarPrime
Lol I heard he swapped her for Major Gunns too once
@@JackgarPrime Literally a goddess. I’m surprised he’s still here, to be honest. If I was married to her and then we broke up, I’d kill myself in a heartbeat.
WWF couldn't even book a clean finish in the Double Dare Superslopamania main event...what a company.
HOGAN couldn't even talk his way into a clean finish
When would you say Hogan was clean? 😉
I was there. First ever live wrestling show for me. I was 11.
I was pissed that the British Bulldog's match with the Berzerker was canceled. Hogan-Sid was an abbreviated version of every other Hogan match in history.
The entire second half of the show was rushed due to time constraints.
However, the WWF Championship match was very good, and the Intercontinental Championship match was outstanding.
awesome man! Were you a big Bulldog/Berzerker fan?
@@OSW I'm sure he was a huge Berzerker Fan :)
"...Every wrestler in the WWF was at their peak when they were at their most largest."
A young Jinder Mahal takes note.
lol B
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So does his nips....
Except for Yoko R.I.P.
Imagine if this PPV happened as originally planned:
Hogan vs Flair
Macho vs Roberts
Taker vs Sid
Bret vs Piper
Hbk vs Marty
LOD vs Money Inc
taker sid would have been a banger
Wasn't is meant to be LOD/Natural Disasters?
@@hulkhogan4203 Just like it was at WM13 lol
Would’ve been a banger
@@OfficialFingazMCyou’re correct
When Shawn and Tito face off, Tito tells him "you got a booger on your nose."
Or coke residue lol
"You've got blow on your nose "
its like watching wrestling with my pals if i had any lol,
I LOVE YOU GUYS DOING THIS FOR US
💯
I hear ya, I certainly have pals but trying to talk them into watching some old wrestling with me is another story
"All I heard is Hogan Wins."
The story of WWF
Bret/Roddy and Savage/Flair were the only real matches of any note.
The reason for Macho Man pulling Flair's tights was the "dirtiest player in the game" getting a taste of his own medicine.
Hhhm yeah and no. The story of the match was that Savage had Flair beat again and again but Flair and Prefect kept cheating him out of the win, so Savage in frustration turned the tables in a by any means necessary way to defend Elizabeth's honour! Least that's what I saw (besides Randy was always a little bit 'salty' in the ring 😁)
I think when Perfect asked Flair if he could come along on Space Mountain I think he's saying for them to tag team her.
Sounds better than one night in Chyna
Maybe he legit thought Flair meant the ride at Disneyland for a second...
I'm going to ship Perfect X Flair anyway
Well yeah ....
God i hope so
Wow...my dad and I sat 2nd row at this in the Dome; I won the tickets in a WW(F)E wrestlefest arcade game tournament.
Damn you are cool
Dude... I know this is 6 years ago. But, screw lex - YOU are my hero! Who did you play (I love Earthquake).
HBK's foot gained superpowers over a few years. in 1992 the superkick was just a normal spot. Funny how a few years fter the same kick became something that completly knocked guys out
John Hope an illegal strike that ended matches
That actually could make sense in kayfabe since the idea of a finisher is that a wrestler has practiced a given otherwise ordinary move so much he has mastered its subtleties and it is far more effective from him than from someone else. The announcers could point that out. And if they could show a montage of the kick being normal, then more effective, then more effective still, and then the finisher-level move it was, they could build its credibility even more.
John Hope lol
He didn't tune the band up that's the difference
Chris Adams used the superkick. HBK used it as a nod to him.
The guy in father Ted saying “fucking hell” will never not be funny.
Just a shame he’s turned into a complete nutcase.
@@clinteldorado One day I have to look up what he actually did, all I remember is he could get into fights with anyone over his writing. Then something about trans people?
@@InaudibleSlinky In short, he's a massive transphobe. Almost passionately so, to the point that he'll just harrass trans people online without provocation (at least, until he was banned from Twitter).
@@stuartdunlop8834 I'll have to look that up now, weird that he'd be hung up on that, I suppose his anal retentive nature couldn't stay on the quality of his writing forever.
@@stuartdunlop8834 shut up
Always loved this Mania. Bret/Piper is such an excellent match, and Monsoon/Heenan were absolutely aces on commentary.
@@dreamshakejunya my brother and I use Heenan-isms as inside jokes. There will never be another.
Vince's WBF commentary may be one of the most hilarious things I've ever heard considering who it's coming from.
First guy in the vid (after Luger, I guess) kinda looks like Vince, a bit, sorta, in the hair. So...iunno.
@@Eidenhoek
Well, Vince used to be a bodybuilder, so...
Yea, he’s a bit too excited.
Shut up! Just look at the BEEF!!!
I was at WRESTLEMANIA 8 and Sid got some cheers, while Hogan got a pretty big pop. Hogan went right into the ring with his music still playing and Sid attacked him. Hogan knocked Sid to the outside and then the other scuffles occurred, followed by the ripping off the shirt, and all of this happened while the music was still playing. That music played forever. Exactly the way you explained it was pretty much the way it happened. Sid had just turned heel but a lot of fans still liked him so he got a lot of cheers. Ultimate Warrior got the biggest pop of the night and deservedly so.
Deservedly so? How had Warrior deserved any kind of pop?
Rowdy was a man that truly loved working in wrestling. His ring psychology and ability to work the crowd was outstanding. You can see how much it hurt him when kayfabe was left behind. Jesse Ventura always said that Piper was his only "lead" into the wrestling world. He was great in so many ways and passed away too young.
When Flair gigs, it looks like he keeps his hand steady holding the razor and moves his head across it instead of what someone’s first instinct would be, which is to keep your head steady and blade with your hand. Such a little thing but it’s like an “Oh, DUH!” moment with how it helps cover it up and make the motions look organic. Wonder if he’s one of those madlads who keeps the gig in his mouth until it’s time.
Flair was known to keep the blade taped up in one of his fingers as a matter of fact, as Jim Cornette once revealed. He'd have a thin strip covering up a piece of the blade, and then once time to blade came he would pull the tape, blade, and put it back. Simple but extremely effective.
You all have exposed me to the brilliance of the Mountie after so many random episodes.
His arcing storyline of losing his marbles is brilliantly funny
Certified boy, for sure. Him, Repoman, the Genius/Leaping Lanny, and Al Snow are in my stable.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 but what about him?
what about Mantaur?
@@monsieurdubitatif8567 Half Man! Half Taur!
The Mountie is 100% in my boys stable!
Seriously, why can't I find the Hogan "I'm going to get off by cranking your knob" promo anywhere???!
Wha? When was this?
Veggie Gamer. What?!? When did this even happen.
1:21:28 - Sorry for the slow reply! XD
Veggie Gamer - I wasn’t expecting to see you here
@@kujikawathemeekmage3640 Kujikawa, I am a MASSIVE OSW Mark! :)
"Kids, sit on grandpas lap and let me tell you about the day I met the Bushwackers."
😆😆😆
Same day you got hepatitis C
@@beautifulbecause8409 😊
Lick lick lick
Okay They clearly stole the Narcisissist look from Nuclear Man in Superman 4.
I hope you've seen Lex Luger as Superboy. Search for it if you haven't.
Clearly 😂😂😂😂
The Intercontinental Championship lost it’s prestige long before Cena. It was in 1999 when people like Val Venus, Road Dogg, Godfather and Chyna won it. That killed the belt to the point where even when Jericho, Angle and Benoit came along a year later the damage had already been done.
Yea that's about right cuz that's when it stopped being a stepping stone to the world title. The year before that you had the Rock and HHH fighting for the title on their way up the card.
Which kinda sucks, cause Godfather rules.
This was the first ever PPV I watched live as a kid. I feel that the Piper Bret match never really gets mentioned. An underrated Bret classic.
possibly the best match Piper ever had alongside the Dog Collar match vs Greg Valentine
Genuinely think you have to be a bit older and appreciate psychology for it to become amazing. At the time I was just freaked by Bret being busted open!
Jesus I envy you, mine was Wrestlemania 33 aged 19 😂😂
@@kitpalmer1583 I envy you cause you're younger. 😂
@@RetroTiburon trust me, you had it better 😂
best WWF pay pr veiw reviews on youtube. Bar none!!!
That Hogan promo was one of the greatest and dumbest at the exact same time
Darius Britton Yes, I will forever be amused at the memory of seeing Hogan "backstroking" out of frame.
It was pure shite lol
IC title match is legendary. The spot with Piper and the bell is the kind of stuff you don't see in wrestling anymore. The crowd participation aspect is just wonderful.
It’s a spot that can’t exist anymore bc of both the way wrestling is and what we expect as fans. Nowadays, most fans expect high spot after high spot after high spot. And for the most part that’s what we get. For as much as I disagree with a lot of what Jim Cornette says I agree that nowadays guys don’t sell except for the finish they just get up and look to move on to the next spot. The only way a moment like that can happen is if a guy is selling heavy mid match and allows the time for that set up to fall into place. With the exception of like the very very best. Like omega, Moxley, Seth Rollins, Okada, Bryan Danielson, you simply don’t get this type of in match storytelling anymore.
The crowd refuse to play along anymore.
Flair vs Savage, what a brilliant match! The crowd were into it and the near falls were superb!
"You were my heeerooo" God I love this show.
Jake wasn't selling that Taker was getting up after getting hit with DDTs because Jake already understood that Taker came from the darkside, and he knew he would sit up. Jake acting flustered like all of the other guys prior, would have made Jake look bad, especially after he spent the 8-9 months before that, professing how he knew Satan himself, and the darkside, and everything in between. He knew it would take more, to truly put Taker down...….which is why he went after Bearer. He knew who controlled the power of the Undertaker.
When the heel tries to just walk away, the faces could just continually roll in and out of the ring, resetting the count.
comradet0m But why? The heels not gonna come back like haha. Be just a waste of the crowd and the faces time
Even after the heel leaves the ring in an Uber and leaves the arena, that would get the face over huge on the internet.
Titles not changing hands on a DQ or Count Out has never made any sense. No heel with a title would ever have any incentive to stay in the ring or avoid getting DQ'ed. Every match with a heel champ would have to be a DQ, falls count everywhere.
@@RyanAcidhedzMurphy Outside of Kayfabe it makes sense 'cause it gives the booker "outs" so the face has a way to not win the belt without technically losing.
Inside of Kayfabe it still makes some sense. Not all heels are of the cowardly variety, and many heels would still want to prove they are better than the faces. It's a pride thing.
@@RyanAcidhedzMurphy it's actually a great plot device. If I remember correctly from when i was young The Honkey Tonk Man went on a massive heel run as IC champion by coming to the ring getting the crap kicked out of him and then doing something to get DQ'd or counted out. To be followed by promos insisting he was the greatest wrestler of all time.
Nuclear heat. Everybody hated that guy. He was amazingly punchable.
Biggest complaint of the Savage/Flair feud...if the pics were really just Savage and Liz all along, wouldn't Savage have been like "Um. You idiot. That's our horse. I remember taking that pic."
And who the fuck was following Randy and Liz taking those pictures without them noticing INCHES FROM THEIR FACES! Oh my
That's what you're annoyed about? I want the centrefold!! Just like every bloke my age lol
Clearly, Piper only did the clean job because it was his friend and genuinely great wrestler Bret. He's almost never let anyone else go over on him clean. That's also why this is the only title Piper ever really had. Holding a title means eventually having to lose it, and you can't lose a title if you never let anyone beat you clean.
I love monsoon and heenan together, just brilliant stuff
Especially when Heenan throws a temper tantrum after Flair lost the title to Savage. It occurs in the beginning of the Tatanka/Martel match.
When I was watching at the age of 14 back then, me and my mates couldn't help but notice Jake's head was 3 feet off the floor with that tombstone. So bad. lol
Ultradude lol. Stupid wwf shoulda used different camera angle. Takers tombstone was so gay n fake looking!
Early Taker was not very good with the tombstone. He had that problem a lot.
Macho Man's black and gold costume is my favourite 'what bar?' So far.
You mean, "what baahr?" Lol
sadly macho is burning in hell forever. Randy had lots of unSaved sins. Bible real. I loved Macho as wrestler from 1989 to 1997. but he was lost.
@Danni Biz he better get as many titles reigns as he can. I can see Hogan converting to Judaism just so as he can get to the same heaven and upstage him in his own matches 😉
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• Original Episode Release Date: 8th May 2013
• Thanks to John Pollock and Wai Ting from The Fight Network for the intro! (Their show is the largest influence to ours)
• The countdown 1:52:47 refers to how many episodes are left in this run of episodes (i.e. ending at SummerSlam 92)
OSW Review HD yall should but the match timestamps in the description
OSW Review HD Also the first ever what smokes with savage
Hogan should have been a coffee crisp
My mom wasnt aware of it yet, but she was pregnant with my older brother when she went on Spacemountain 4 decades ago....he was born with an eleventh toe as a result...
OSW Review H
I was at Wrestlemania 8 During the Piper/Hart match when Piper grabbed the bell and was going to hit Hart with it. The crowd was booing I was screaming DO IT!!!!
What a historic show to watch live!
I now live in NC around the Lumbee tribe and my husband is a member of the tribe. The noise the Lumbee dancers made as they left the ring is their call. They do it at powwows, sporting events, etc to show excitement, support etc. Also, the name Chavis in this area of the US is pronounced Chay-vis. It’s local dialect.
I've re-listened to an OSW bit more than "Messi ... Pele ... Narcissus" and "Hm...This match is good ya" ! XD I could tell this another million times but you lads are so awesome !
The thing that has always bothered me about Money inc: the millionaire and the tax man should be natural enemies. Best I can surmise is IRS is a crooked tax man but it was never shown he was taking DiBiase's money. If he did, he'd have nightmares about not declaring it.
Lol it was said (by Bobby Heenan) that Dibiase paid a whole 28cents in tax for that year, so I think its assumed they were scratching each other's backs. Like big millionaire companies get tax cuts maybe....
From what I recall, Irwin R. Schyster and Ted Dibiase we're in cahoots. IRS was the mdm's tax man and was paid off. lol pretty funny gimmicks and angles. 😂
It all makes sense when you realize that the super-wealthy own the government, of which the taxman is a servant. 🤔
Do rich people pay taxes??
@@Natef321 only in theory.
Brothers, i´am 41 years old. THIS was my first Wrestling-Event... and I was addicted from now on. I wachted this on VHS > 15 times and I still remember most of the moments and moves the dudes did in the ring. Thanks man for this recall
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only found you guys few days ago and i'm hooked on your video's fucking great stuff
Cheers Mick!
OSW Review HD ewe
Who's the guy at 8:27? He is everywhere!
EDIT: Fuck me! 22:10 as well!
EDIT2: and 46:44. Fuck it...
Jarejander69 It's Vladimir, the superfan!
Can't wait for next review, I was lucky enough to be there at Wembley that day. Its going to be weird watching a review of a wwf show event I actually went to, an extra nostalgia boost
The "What Bar is ..." is probably my favorite thing ever for wrestling podcasts.
I've watched most OSW episodes like 10 times each, it's always fun to go back to an old episode and listen to the guys talk about a storyline that they ended up covering down the line, like that Lex/Tatanka storyline at 1:13:25 now we have that match in episode OSW #91 SummerSlam 1994.
Kinda liked the foam all over SID’s face from the Barber Shop attack, made him look more insane.
He doesn't sell it, so it's good.
That would suck to get in your eyes.
What a great channel, such a laugh. So glad to have discovered this. Holiday Armadillo reference slayed me
Bobby Heenan made that same joke about Areba Mcentire when El Matador came out. He said they were cousins.
Who in the fiery halls of Hell is Areba???
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm literally crying laughing, I can't
It's REBA McEntire.
Hogan has no attraction in his wrestling style but no one was, is & will be equal to his on screen presence & chrisma. Absolutely unbelievable 😌
They absolutely blew it with Sid during his first Fed run. He looked amazing, had great matches, the fans were super behind him. He really could have been their next Hogan, but Vince didn't come through with anything he was promised
Sid made up for it in 96
You guys are just fricking awesome I love the insightful way u describe all these events from my childhood love the channel and not forgetting the banter u have with each other.
Hulk Hogan may have had a Pina Colada at Trader Vic's, but no one would accuse his hair of being perfect.
..and I would not like to meet his tailor.
One of the Mania's I had on VHS so I automatically love this show.
Love the review more lads :)
Hogan looking peak juiced here. The oil and tan. Those arms @ 1:29:38 even compared to Sid, good god! And Sid is a massive built guy like Kane. Just amazing.
Sometimes a referee will use their discretion to NOT disqualify a heel champ in a title match, kind of 'You're not getting off that easily'
Mop r3
kinda skipped over that nasty boys, repoman & mountie promo. one of the funniest promos i've ever seen. massive amounts of cocaine had to of went missing before that interview.
To be fair, massive amounts of cocaine went into almost every 80's and early 90's wrestling promo.
Cocaine as a whole peaked in the 80s
Hogan does a lot of dog paddling
I hear he's keen on the breast stroke too
Hotdog paddling
The fact that Sid has main evented two Wrestlemanias is crazy to me
I agree with OOC he looks like a wrestler should (even with the perfect/Ziggler/poodle hair), but at least one of them he didn't soil himself....
SID is actually underrated to me I love him
For me thar he did one in the Hulkamania era and one in the Attitude Era was wild
Why? Cause he's got half the brain you do ?
You guys had me hacking up a lung I was laughing so hard! When you compared the ref in the opening bout to a Lego man I just lost it. I had to pause it and take note...the shape of his head and the state of his haircut it's uncanny how accurate that analogy was. Amazing! Also the Sheri version of "Sexy Boy" is the best version of Shawn Michael's theme, no doubt.
The Hispanic guy in the wife beater has been at like every wrestlemania
That's Vlad the Superfan!
I met Vlad at a house show once in the 1990. He really is a just a big wrestling fan.
Is Vlad still alive? Haven't seen him on years?
@@TheKillingJoker1980 Yeah, I've wondered what happened to him too. You don't see him at WWE shows anymore. What gives? Did he stop being a wrestling fan? Did his connections dry up and he can't get tickets anymore? (Word is he was friends with people in the business who got him tickets all the time.) Or did something bad happen to him?
@@TheKillingJoker1980 last I saw him he was front row for the ecw reboot in hammerstein ballroom in 06, the one where show and Batista get shit on lol. Hope he's still kicking, maybe he'll show up at an AEW show lol
I found your reviews recently and seem to spend all my time watching them! Right trip down memory lane and the little bits of info about the changes etc etc are great - how do you find so much info? Keep em coming lads
Never realized how much Hogans promos sound like Sylvester the cat.
Yeah, he sounded all mush-mouthed in that opening promo...
I feel bad for Marty Jannetty
He's with UWA Elite which is a Jersey promotion and oh my god fuck all they wrestle in bingo halls
25 people are lucky enough to pay $2 to see trash wrestling just because they hear Jannetty and think "Shawn's Tag Team partner? Oh I have to see this."
I think WM 8 is the most enigmatic of Manias. I read somewhere WM 7 was the last of the classic of the Manias. But between the double main event toss up and Hogan deciding to retire instead of facing Flair for the title, etc. and Taker getting buried in the card after headlining storylines for months, etc., I dunno, this one could have been so much better. Taker vs Flair for the title, Hogan vs Bret, Savage vs. Shawn Michaels just to shake it up and usher in, pre-preemptively the new generation, etc., I dunno. WM 7 would have been a strange card had they gone with storyline versus their Hogan-centric booking. Savage-Slaughter and Hogan vs. Warrior 2 would have done better. John's intro is great. He's a great guy from Toronto! Or do the Beefer Hogan vs IRS match a year earlier. Thoughts on Jake at WM? You guys seem to lean towards an idea that he doesn't bring it for the big mania matches (WM 6 and 2 and even 3 I think you are not so impressed by his work). Was Jake the most misused superstar for the first run of Manias? Discuss. Or don't. Overall I think 8 is a good mania, better than 9 and even 10 to a degree, but the Hart and HBK matches are key and incredible. They just should have given them their pushes a bit earlier. But when you have Hogan Flair Savage you tend to give Taker and Hart and HBK lesser roles. Like a WCW wet dream, WM 8.
Wow. I could see that match line up working a year later but not at 8. Takers turn was far too fresh, and as they proved later in the year Bret vs Shawn was nothing special at this time!
Flair/Savage and Piper/Hart made this mania. Great matches.
Would've been perfect if Savage Flair was the main event
100%
@firstroundboxing7649 you can't say/use perfect..makes ppl think you're referring to mr.perfect
I'm pretty sure that Jake gave his notice maybe 30mins or so before walking down the aisle.
He says he was promised Pat Pattersons role (or more likely a road agents role).
Vince said nope to Jake in regards to Pattersons role so Jake left.
WIth the crowd sound altering for Hogan/Sid on this PPV, I wonder that if 10 years from now, all the boos that John Cena gets will be filtered out on WWE video...
No, I was there. The crowd was not cheering Sid, and they popped like crazy for Hogan.
I saw this live on PPV in 1992. There was no sounds altering or dubbing for Sid/Hogan. They booed Sid and cheered Hogan. The music did play long during the entrance until the bell rang.
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the sweetening done on Jay's version, where cheers were added for Sid, and which would fit with what you two remember.
Coming up on 6 years of sober Jake Roberts.
HOGAn- "Juicy Fruit"
From 1979 to 1998 the Intercontinental Championship changed hands 49 times.
From 1999 to 2002 the Intercontinental Championship changed hands 42 times.
Don't forget that Stone Cold credits Jake Roberts with coming up with idea of him using the stunner as his finisher.
Austin 3:16 also comes from Austin mocking Roberts talking about John 3:16.
James Nichols no shit they mention that in the show
Odd claim considering the move was invented by Mickey Whipwreck in ECW.
Thats weird because stone cold credits michael hayes
For the record, the MKII intro is possibly my favorite of any episode. Awesome!
I used that "she was mine before she was yours" line in HS one time....my homage to Flair and his greatness..;)
omg Gorilla and the Heenan on double dare is the best! I never saw that!
“I’M GOING TO GET OFF BY CRANKING YOUR KNOB!!!!!”🤣🤣😭
Crowd went insane when Warrior came out. But keep in mind, they are in the Hoosier DOME, not Market Square Arena, The dome, domes anywhere.....will eat up a pop. Whether its wrestling, the final 4 for basketball, or a super bowl. It took 93,000 to generate the pops that Hogan and Steamboat got in Mania 3, and they still should have/would have been louder anywhere else but the dome.
I love this channel. I wish you guys would do '93 on through for the WWF, some of it's so bad that's it's good...like a good B movie if you will. Then attitude era PPVs, oh man. Thanks for the content you have provided!
They have and they are. They've done some Attittude Era PPVs, and they're currently working through the Lex Express angle. Just look up the other videos on this channel, they're not hard to find. Jay is currently editing the video for Summerslam '93, and I am eagerly awaiting its drop because I've never watched the PPV before.
i watched this ppv live back in 92...and Sid's cheer was not the same as Hogans...Hogans was much larger...and Hulk's music stayed on for a long time too...and the crowd went crazy, when Hulk threw two right hands after jumping over Sid.
That was a good Piper match i forgot about, thanks.
Have u not seen Vs Greg Valentine??
OSW drinking game: drink every time Wurzel is on screen, and don't stop until he's out of frame lmao.
This was the first wrestling I ever saw. Flair vs. Savage was the match made me fall in love with it. 12 year old me knew I should be going for Savage but I was really curious about that centrefold. My mind was blown when Savage one. I remember being is disbelief. I have nothing but love for that match.
The aisle of the arena is so fucking long that Hogan shouldn't have gone for the finish until he saw Papa Shango walk to the ring. So the screw up in the main event is not totally Shango's fault.
designermetal1 yeah that part has never made sense to me either. Was he supposed to sprint that far in 2 seconds?
. Man I am loving this channel guys. It's been just the escape I've needed. You're hilarious but your love for wrestling and making each other laugh is on another level completely. By far one of the best wrestling channels I've ever seen
Again thanks for the brief respite and escapism you've gave me. It's been great watching your work .
Great job lads. Thank you .🙏🙏👏👏..
Can't sleep, Papa Shango will eat me
Can't sleep, Papa Shango will eat me
Can't sleep, Papa Shango will eat me
32:00 It’d only take 10 years from this point for the IC to become important again - all because Gunther is the future and Hogan pt2 has the main belts.