Well, you definitely won’t be getting 50mpg’s if you are full throttling it everywhere haha. But cruising and letting the electric motor do its job, then yes, 50mpg+
I own a 2023 Honda Civic hatchback hybrid. Best trim possible, payed 38k ish euros brand new in Romania. It's all you need from a car and a little more. I would've liked the sedan but sadly Honda doesn't sell those in Europe for some reason, still I absolutely love it
My Mazda 3 does that. It's wonderful having them linked to the climate control when it's cold, you remote start your car, and the seat and steering wheel are already warm.
That's good information. I was concerned for a moment. I have a brand new urban Grey sport touring hybrid hatchback coming in(special order) about Thanksgiving time. Turning in my 2021 sport touring hatchback. Lease up 7 months ago extended to get the 2025.
So funny seeing you guys trying so hard to act as "normal car reviewers", this is why this is the best car review channel on youtube, real car enthusiasts that have the vocabulary to describe how the car really feels to drive.
As an FYI, the CVT is actually not a CVT even though that is what they call it. It has 2 gears. One for the electric motor, one for the engine+generator. The engine revs and fake shifts and is not even connected to the wheels. The electric motors drive the car completely up to about 55 mph, after that the second gear engages and the engine takes over. The reving is just to make the car feel like a normal car. In reality, the engine doesn't even drive the wheels bellow 55mph, its all an illusion. The higher revs are there for a reason, which is to generate more electricity because the electric motors are powered not just by the battery but also the MGU, which requires more revs. Thus they came up with the idea of fake shifts.
According to Car and Driver, the SI is 1 second faster in the 0-100, and that's on top of making up the manual shift times, so I'm guessing the hybrid is only quick off the line and then kinda falls off after that. @@Cyborg_Auto
Your comments around the 7:00 minute mark say a lot. People who care absolutely nothing for cars still notice when the steering feels right, when nothing annoys, when the car moves with some grace and composure. They may not have an active interest, but most people perceive that a well-engineered car just feels good. Honda hasn't always been perfect, but has been mostly good at nailing that feeling.
I picked up the sport hybrid a little over a month ago for list at $33k CDN. I generally run on the highway and get 4.6 l/km. What no one is mentioning is that to fill the 700km + range tank at 1.68 L is only $45. There are a few minor issues but overall it’s been amazing. Highly recommended
Guys - there's no CVT! Just an electric motor powering the wheels except during cruise when the ICE is directly connected to the wheels under a fixed ratio. Love your channel BTW. Super entertaining, well done, fun.
@@joelfranco4757 E-CVT is just a marketing term and is meaningless. The electric traction motor direct drives the wheels with the gas engine acting as a generator when more power than the battery can provide is needed (during acceleration, up hills) and at higher speeds the gas motor can drive the wheels at a fixed gear ratio (1 in the Civic, 2 gear ratios in the CR-V)
This car does NOT have a CVT, Honda used one of the electric motors to handle the transmission duties through Linear Shift Control. This car technically doesn’t have a transmission in the traditional sense.
@@TheMildGamer12 No. This isn't even an eCVT like Prius. Most of the time, there is no connection from Engine to wheels. It's Engine to Generator. Electricity powers the wheels.
It has an "eCVT" which is nothing like the crappy belt/chain design CVT's found in 100% ICE vehicles. So, apples & oranges. A proper "eCVT" is the only "CVT" I would buy.
As others have said, there is no CVT. No transmission. It's pretty much directly driven by the electric motor with power sent from the motor when needed
My brother in law is rich and used to drive sport coupes like m3 and c63, but after my nephews were born he bought a Honda CRV, mod and tuned the heck out of it, even spent a couple of thousand dollars for extra sound deadening. It's like the greatest car ever I swear to god.
I was in France recently and saw a LOT of Corolla Hybrid WAGONS--many being used as Ubers. Like a proper wagon. Not a cramped hatchback. Anyway, they were so good looking.
The drivetrain is pretty interesting in this car. Would have been cool to hear a bit more about it. I think it's impressive how they've made two electric motors and the engine all work together so nicely and feel so normal.. even filling people into thinking it has a CVT hehe.
"CVT" is such a naming disservice to this transmission. It's basically an electric car powertrain with a gas engine that can charge or attach to the wheels sometimes. Nothing like the crap cvt in my old subaru impreza.
But by all reasonable definitions it is a continuously *variable* transmission. They need a different name though because the bad blood from early gen belt & chain systems tarnished the CVT name.
@@SiriuslyAndrew except it isn't a continuously variable transmission. the engine either acts as a generator and isn't connected to the wheels at all. in this mode all the driving power is provided by the electric motor through a single speed gear. or the engline clutch engages and the engine directly drives the wheels withouth going through any gearbox
I mean I go to school and work for American Honda, Honda still calls it the E-cvt because it is still constantly variable transmission just not belt driven with 2 lock up clutches one gear ratio for high speed and one for low speed when being engine driven. It has gears is constantly variable because of the electric motor inside the transmission and takes transmission fluid. So I say it’s a transmission.
@@isaiahavelino8638 that's not how electric motors work in cars. there's one motor and one gear ratio. there is no varying of the ratios. Only during lockup of the gas engine is there a different gear/ratio. there's nothing "continuously variable" about the configuration here. hence, my whole quibble about the naming. they had an opportunity to come up with something cool for what is a remarkably capable and elegant system but I think Honda marketing is just lazy or a bunch of dei hires.
Its not even a CVT, its a 200 horsepower electric motor with a 2 liter generator! the engine can direct drive the wheels on the highway but the traction motor does all the work, driving the car, fake shifting and the lot
There's no CVT guys, in fact there's not even a transmission, it's a slick direct drive gearbox like an EV, with Honda using two electric motors, one drives the car and the other is a generator. Engine only comes on to charge the generator. Overall, there's 3 driving modes: #1 - EV Mode. Off line acceleration and in normal driving conditions under roughly 75 km/hr. The battery powers the drive motor, no gasoline is used. You're in 100% EV only mode. #2 - Hybrid drive mode. When strong acceleration occurs, the generation Motor runs at optimum fuel-efficiency to create electricity, with the Drive Motor providing acceleration. #3 - Engine Drive Mode. When high speed driving is cruising, like on the highway, the engine runs at optimum fuel-efficiency to power the wheels, and charge the battery at the same time. As you've seen, Honda mimics shifting in the Hybrid Civic so it feels super natural and same as ICE, minus the negatives you'd find in a traditional ICE transmission OR droning noise like in a Toyota's hybrid eCVT. Remember, Civic Hybrid has no transmission, it's 100% direct drive. Looking forward to your review, I think you'll be super impressed. At Honda's price point and with the Civic's generous interior room, it's competing with the Camry imo.
Having got one myself, I'd describe the phases as: 1) ev mode, engine off 2) ev mode, but the engine is running to charge the battery 3) hybrid mode, engine and battery powering the wheels 4) engine mode, engine direct drive to the wheels How it decides is a mystery as I've gone up hills with 33% charge at 30mph in ev mode, but had hybrid mode going 30mph on flat straight road with full charge. It seems to have decided 60mpg is what it shall do, no more - no less 😂
@@supsock180 Your mode #2 does not exist. You can't charge the battery, and use iit to power the motor, at the same time. But in #3 and #4, the engine can be producing more power than the wheels need. The excess charges the battery, which is probably what you've observed.
3:50 I completely agree with Thomas. I had a 2014 F-150 FX2 with heated and ventilated seats, and’s would not do without ventilated in the Lightning. So the only choices were the Lariat and Platinum. After this scorching summer, I definitely don’t regret the decision.
Bought a 2025 Sport Hybrid (non Touring) last week. Have put just over 500 km on it and I've used just over half tank of gas. And it's fun to drive! Phenomenal, just a good all-arounder.
Feels like the Skoda Octavia here in Germany. Big enough Station Wagon for the Family, 200HP Diesel, 400NM Torque, AWD and 4.5l/100km while cruising. Just good cars for normal people
It's not a CVT. Most of the time, the engine acts as a generator for the electric motor that powers the wheels. Once you're at motorway/highway speeds a clutch engages that sends power from the engine to the wheels through a single speed gearbox.
Owned one in europe for almost 2 years. Amazing transmission. Puts so many other manufacturers to shame. Took it on a 3k road trip across europe this year. It never faulted and always a pleasure to drive.
These guys are great but like too many car reviewers (and consumers for that matter) have gotten jaded and expect every mod con under the sun.We have become victims of feature creep. Do we really NEED things like cooled seats? The majority of car owners would be perfectly happy with a well engineered, reasonably reliable car with AC, cruise control, a decent sounding stereo and is fuel efficient. This top of the line Civic is a total home run and is brimming with standard features. Who could be dissatisfied with that?
I have the new Accord that uses a similar climate control, and I have to say that I love that the Auto climate function also controls the heated (and cooled in the Accord) seats. It makes it so that you only ever have to adjust one knob to get comfortable. Hot? Turn the dial up and the car will actually wait for the air to get warm before turning up the fan speed, and then once the cabin is up to temp it will then turn down the fan speed so you’re not getting hot air blown on you when the cabin is already warm. Same for the seats. It starts high and then turns itself down when up to temp. If you just pick a temp number and just trust the car to do the rest, it’s an incredibly easy and well designed experience.
Come on guys, get the facts straight. This car doesn't have a CVT... It's a direct driven electric motor without gears. The gas engine can assist, starting at 43 mph, where the ratio matches the drivetrain without bogging. This powertrain is unique in the industry. The heated seats being synced to the HVAC is a toggle in the vehicle settings menu.
This is a REALLY solid car folks. Is it a bit vanilla? Sure…but I know most of my kings in the comment section are practical family guys too. This thing will last forever. It’s got plenty of power for civic things, it’s relatively inexpensive, parts are cheap and easy to replace, there’s a YT video for nearly every replacement you’re not familiar with, it gets over 50mpg. I’m with Thomas on this one…vented seats are a game changer for me and they should have allowed the option on the touring. Otherwise, this is a winner.
A major simplification for Honda on these, though, is no options - there are trims and that's it. There's no variation other than exterior and interior colors.
Totally agree on the significance of ventilated seats. Once you get used to them, anything else is a serious downgrade to comfort. Lane keep assist is similar in its surprising effectiveness of reducing the baseline stress of driving IMO.
@@bradenfitzpatrick8352 Kia can try and call it one all they want, but it’s a hatchback for me and most enthusiasts, I’d imagine. No AWD, and it’s only about an inch taller than a legacy while being shorter than most other AWD subcompact SUVs by 3-4 inches. It’s a hatchback and even feels like one. Plus similar price range to Prius and civic.
Completely agree with Thomas on cooled seats. 1. Cooled seats 2. Backup camera. Even though I'm quite the capable driver lol, I find it useful when I wind up parked between two rolling cargo ships. 3. Android Auto/Apple CarPlay connectivity. Preferably without multiple screens everywhere.
This is the perfect car (in hatchback form) for 90% of the population, including myself. Incredibly efficient, comfortable, moderately quick, handles well, Honda reliability, hugely practical and not too big. And yet I'll keep my G70 3.3T cuz I like powerrrrrrrrrrrr. And ventilated seats.
I guess it depends on needs, you can get a 2025 Camry SE hybrid with the same 50mpg for the same price. It looks like this might be more fun to drive though but the Camry will have more room in it and probably be a little more comfortable on long road trips.
I would agree with Thomas about the cooled seats, in my opinion the best features in the past 20 years are a rear view camera, CarPlay and cooled seats
unpopular opinion, but I've only ever used cooled seats one; in the backseat of a new 7-series. It was a wow feature and I totally didn't need it. Total excess, in my opinion. I'd be totally ok if this came with roll-down windows and manually adjustable side mirrors.
Your videos are mostly about crazy exotic cars, which is nice, but we can never dream of actually getting behind the wheel of one of those. Your videos about cars we might actually be able to afford different. Not better or worse, different. I wish you would do more of them. Could we do a video mourning the loss of vehicle models whose time came too soon? The Mazda six, for example. Love watching you guys. The “gained a couple hundred pounds…. But who hasn’t” - brilliant James.
4:55 you don't have to turn on/off the seat heater, you have to set your temperature on the AC to your desired temperature and it will turn on or off your seat heater when the temperature is achieved.
Yep, pure electric power at low speeds with the engine clutched directly to the wheels when at highway speed. It does make the peak horsepower number somewhat disingenuous though as you'll really have to be hauling to make the full 200.
@@SlabBulkhead166 Even then it needs at least a few gears, even if the EV system goes up to 60mph purely electric the car engine can't have 1 gear to go 60-top speed.
@@Daniel-dj7fhYet, it is a direct driven electric motor without gears. The gas engine can assist, starting at 43 mph, where the ratio matches the drivetrain without bogging.
If only they made this in a manual like the civic hybrids of old. The civic chassis is so good and an NA engine + hybrid assist for an efficient daily/family car makes so much sense. I just still want to row my own gears.
The way they feel about this car is how I feel about the current gen Chevy Malibu. My office has one as a company car and I remember when I first drive it I was like DAMMIT! I like this car 😩😂 It’s so well damped, and the CVT is actually good. And the seats are comfortable. And the view outside is great. And the steering is great. As a car enthusiast, I was so mad at how much I liked the Malibu.
The fact I just watched these guys review one of the most normal, npc sorta cars and was still completely entertained and interested, speaks to how good Throttle House is. Straight up carrying the torch of Top Gear imo
That ending is hilarious. On topic; as much as I like this car, the new Camry is better. It gets slightly better L/100, similar features/drivability, is similar pricing, and it looks better. Still, good to know the civic is out there and is a solid car.
Something to consider... As great as this Civic Hybrid Touring is, and it truly is great in every important way, no doubt about it, for the same money you can get a 2025 Camry LE with the Convenience and Cold Weather packages. Now you have a larger, roomier, quieter, plusher, more comfortable car that has more power, available AWD (only $1,500 more), and even better fuel mileage (53 city/50 hwy, vs 50 city/47 hwy for the Civic Hybrid Touring) while also giving you a heated steering wheel, adjustable lumbar control, and rear-seats AC, none of which are available on the Honda. Additionally, the Camry has a 10 year/150,000-mile hybrid battery warranty, vs Honda's 10 year/100K warranty, and the Honda only has direct injection vs the Camry having Toyota's D-4S port/direct injection system which prevents the carbon buildup on the intake vales that will occur with the Honda's DI-only fueling system. The Camry is also the only car out there (besides its Toyota and Lexus siblings) that can equal or even surpass the Civic hybrid's long-term reliability and low running costs. Given a choice between the Honda and Toyota hybrid systems, I think most mechanics would trust both to go the distance, but if they were forced to choose between them in terms of which one will more likely do 250,000-300,000 miles without issues the Camry would be the choice. It uses a larger 2.5L motor vs the Honda's 2.0L, and its 5th-generation hybrid system is more proven. Can't go wrong with either one, but the Camry certainly offers more car for the money, including more of what the typical hybrid sedan buyer wants: comfort, fuel mileage, tank range, and low running costs.
Currently looking at trading my '20 Mercedes A35 for a hatchback touring. Willing to give up AWD performance for dependability and the peace of mind of not having to wonder when the diff is going to explode or the cylinder head fail... oh wait, it has been in the shop for two weeks so far waiting for that new cylinder head. Honda is looking real nice from here.
Vanilla. With a touch of caramel. And zero to 60 in 6 seconds and 50 mpg. Honda reliability. Excellence.
Well, you definitely won’t be getting 50mpg’s if you are full throttling it everywhere haha. But cruising and letting the electric motor do its job, then yes, 50mpg+
@@JacesOwnWorld Well... yeah. That is how that works, yes.
@@JacesOwnWorld So like with every vehicle ever, you won't get the rated MPGs if you drive as inefficiently as possible, GENIUS!!!
The thing about vanilla is that it is delicious.
And real vanilla is probably the most expensive flavor. Kind of like how Civic is on the expensive end in the class.
Man like car. Car good. Life good.
Amen brother
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honda.
i have found my people
6 seconds to 60 for a hybrid econobox is insane
Lambo Muira owners sweating about getting gapped by a hybrid civic!
Of course I'm joking...but still.
That's about as slow as my 48hp bike tho.
@@Daniel-dj7fh yes but you won't ride that for 15 years
@@tedarcher9120 Been riding my honda for 5 or 6, no reason why I couldn't keep it for another 10.
My Extreme Bull K6 will do it quicker than that!
Man this is definitely a car.
One of the cars of all time
I own a 2023 Honda Civic hatchback hybrid. Best trim possible, payed 38k ish euros brand new in Romania. It's all you need from a car and a little more. I would've liked the sedan but sadly Honda doesn't sell those in Europe for some reason, still I absolutely love it
Some would say this THE car
One of the four-wheeled cars in history
It’s got everything like 4 whole wheels and turn signals. Talk about a complete package.
FYI: You can adjust the auto climate settings to not adjust heated seats. It's in the climate control setting menu.
My Mazda 3 does that. It's wonderful having them linked to the climate control when it's cold, you remote start your car, and the seat and steering wheel are already warm.
Now they may want it more 😂
That's good information. I was concerned for a moment. I have a brand new urban Grey sport touring hybrid hatchback coming in(special order) about Thanksgiving time. Turning in my 2021 sport touring hatchback. Lease up 7 months ago extended to get the 2025.
So funny seeing you guys trying so hard to act as "normal car reviewers", this is why this is the best car review channel on youtube, real car enthusiasts that have the vocabulary to describe how the car really feels to drive.
The cliff hangers on extra throttle house guys....😂🤌🏻
That ending hurt me.
@@Ahheck01 I feel so blue balled
Edging throttle house
@@leotam3372ouch 😂
They ran out of internets
As an FYI, the CVT is actually not a CVT even though that is what they call it. It has 2 gears. One for the electric motor, one for the engine+generator.
The engine revs and fake shifts and is not even connected to the wheels. The electric motors drive the car completely up to about 55 mph, after that the second gear engages and the engine takes over. The reving is just to make the car feel like a normal car. In reality, the engine doesn't even drive the wheels bellow 55mph, its all an illusion.
The higher revs are there for a reason, which is to generate more electricity because the electric motors are powered not just by the battery but also the MGU, which requires more revs. Thus they came up with the idea of fake shifts.
strugglin to believe allat
lotta over engineering for what
@@GaryTaraian-zc3ok Not having a traditional CVT which needs a new belt every 50k miles?
So the engine doesn’t work during hard acceleration?
Or you mean it works more for cruising under 55, and the engine assists with acceleration along with electric motor
Please lap an Si and the Hybrid around the track. THE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW!
The Si is 250 pounds lighter than this hybrid. I'd like to see the difference in a drag race also.
@@Cyborg_Auto definately lighter, and does have he front limited slip. But the auto shifts quicker and it's a LOT more torque!
Better brakes, LSD, track tuned suspension on the Si.
According to Car and Driver, the SI is 1 second faster in the 0-100, and that's on top of making up the manual shift times, so I'm guessing the hybrid is only quick off the line and then kinda falls off after that. @@Cyborg_Auto
It isn't a question of which is faster... It's by how much. If it's within a second, the hybrid is the ultra clear choice.@@pompano_jedi172
"actually you know what?' GODDAMMIT I WANTED TO LISTEN DAMN YOUUU
I thought youtube bugged out.
What an ending to the `quick review`
hehehehe the way it stops at the track was so funny
I am still wondering "what"
Embargo time
I had a Sopranos moment.
@@nathanielallyn1765 I was wondering if that means they will actually track it on the main channel...
It understeers
Your comments around the 7:00 minute mark say a lot. People who care absolutely nothing for cars still notice when the steering feels right, when nothing annoys, when the car moves with some grace and composure. They may not have an active interest, but most people perceive that a well-engineered car just feels good. Honda hasn't always been perfect, but has been mostly good at nailing that feeling.
The main channel guys really missed out on this one
I rather see this on the main channel than the super expensive stuff.
I picked up the sport hybrid a little over a month ago for list at $33k CDN. I generally run on the highway and get 4.6 l/km. What no one is mentioning is that to fill the 700km + range tank at 1.68 L is only $45. There are a few minor issues but overall it’s been amazing. Highly recommended
Do you mind sharing what the issues are? Is the ride rough?
in my kia optima turbo i can get 580 miles in full tank (in eco mode) my tanks is bout 15 gallons which is bout 48 dollars for me..
I’m thinking you might have put the decimal in the wrong place and meant the tank size as 16.8L not 1.68L.
@@J.Young808 I think they're saying $1.68 CAD per L.
These and the Accord hybrids are blowing head gaskets left and right, look it up if you think im lying.
These are your best reviews! Cars that regular people can buy
Guys - there's no CVT! Just an electric motor powering the wheels except during cruise when the ICE is directly connected to the wheels under a fixed ratio. Love your channel BTW. Super entertaining, well done, fun.
It has a Ecvt transmission I have a crv sport-L hybrid
@@joelfranco4757 E-CVT is just a marketing term and is meaningless. The electric traction motor direct drives the wheels with the gas engine acting as a generator when more power than the battery can provide is needed (during acceleration, up hills) and at higher speeds the gas motor can drive the wheels at a fixed gear ratio (1 in the Civic, 2 gear ratios in the CR-V)
@@brettodonnell4187 I'll have to go down there and check for myself to see how it makes the 4 wheels work.
Every other car channel: Automatic GR Corolla
Throttle House: Civic Hybrid
and I'm very ok with that.
Brilliant ending! Thanks for the video.
What?
the classic Sopranos ending!
This car does NOT have a CVT, Honda used one of the electric motors to handle the transmission duties through Linear Shift Control. This car technically doesn’t have a transmission in the traditional sense.
You just explained the long way of a CVT
"Would somebody PLEASE.....get this man.........a gun....."
@@TheMildGamer12 No. This isn't even an eCVT like Prius. Most of the time, there is no connection from Engine to wheels. It's Engine to Generator. Electricity powers the wheels.
It has an "eCVT" which is nothing like the crappy belt/chain design CVT's found in 100% ICE vehicles. So, apples & oranges. A proper "eCVT" is the only "CVT" I would buy.
No dude lol learn to read @TheMildGamer12
As others have said, there is no CVT. No transmission. It's pretty much directly driven by the electric motor with power sent from the motor when needed
It's amazing how many testers on UA-cam get it wrong.
These and the Accord hybrids are blowing head gaskets left and right, look it up if you think im lying.
@@slowgoat6089 I thought that was only for the 1.5 litres? Nice Holden btw
@@xenonsaccord4447 - The hybrid 2.0’s are blowing head gaskets now too, there’s videos online. We just had one come in the shop too not to long ago.
@@slowgoat6089no there not not this engine
My brother in law is rich and used to drive sport coupes like m3 and c63, but after my nephews were born he bought a Honda CRV, mod and tuned the heck out of it, even spent a couple of thousand dollars for extra sound deadening. It's like the greatest car ever I swear to god.
Yes, Civic Sport touring hatchback vs. Prius Prime vs. Prius.
Track battle.
I had a civic wagon back in the day…if they made this as a wagon, I’d stand in line for one.
you're not gonna believe this
Good thing there’s a hatchback
I was in France recently and saw a LOT of Corolla Hybrid WAGONS--many being used as Ubers. Like a proper wagon. Not a cramped hatchback. Anyway, they were so good looking.
@@ragweedmakesmesneezewish we had those in the US! They would probably sell better than the hatch!
@@KittRemboNo they wouldn’t. Americans hate wagons
The drivetrain is pretty interesting in this car. Would have been cool to hear a bit more about it. I think it's impressive how they've made two electric motors and the engine all work together so nicely and feel so normal.. even filling people into thinking it has a CVT hehe.
3:50 vented seats are absolutely amazing and really something that may decide my next car if it has them or not
I love seeing you guys try to make econoboxes interesting 😭 love the vids keep it up!
Hondas and Toyotas are literally the PERFECT every day cars man.
Prius vs civic seems interesting
Civic Hybrid seems like it's more practical than a Prius, especially if we're talking about the Civic hatchback.
The Civic drives MUCH nicer.
I'd rather see the Corolla compared.
I’d imagine that boils down to mpg vs handling
the Toyota Prius after tax is like pushing 38k this one is like 31 or 32
love that extra throttle house just doesn't care about how it ends on purpose, and its so funny. Love the ending
I hate to say, but I find econoboxes more interesting than supercars. These are the cars I buy and drive. And I want the most fun out of them.
"CVT" is such a naming disservice to this transmission. It's basically an electric car powertrain with a gas engine that can charge or attach to the wheels sometimes. Nothing like the crap cvt in my old subaru impreza.
But by all reasonable definitions it is a continuously *variable* transmission.
They need a different name though because the bad blood from early gen belt & chain systems tarnished the CVT name.
@@SiriuslyAndrew Sure but I guess my point is that you don't call an electric car transmission a cvt.
@@SiriuslyAndrew except it isn't a continuously variable transmission.
the engine either acts as a generator and isn't connected to the wheels at all. in this mode all the driving power is provided by the electric motor through a single speed gear.
or the engline clutch engages and the engine directly drives the wheels withouth going through any gearbox
I mean I go to school and work for American Honda, Honda still calls it the E-cvt because it is still constantly variable transmission just not belt driven with 2 lock up clutches one gear ratio for high speed and one for low speed when being engine driven. It has gears is constantly variable because of the electric motor inside the transmission and takes transmission fluid. So I say it’s a transmission.
@@isaiahavelino8638 that's not how electric motors work in cars. there's one motor and one gear ratio. there is no varying of the ratios.
Only during lockup of the gas engine is there a different gear/ratio. there's nothing "continuously variable" about the configuration here.
hence, my whole quibble about the naming. they had an opportunity to come up with something cool for what is a remarkably capable and elegant system but I think Honda marketing is just lazy or a bunch of dei hires.
Its not even a CVT, its a 200 horsepower electric motor with a 2 liter generator! the engine can direct drive the wheels on the highway but the traction motor does all the work, driving the car, fake shifting and the lot
There's no CVT guys, in fact there's not even a transmission, it's a slick direct drive gearbox like an EV, with Honda using two electric motors, one drives the car and the other is a generator. Engine only comes on to charge the generator.
Overall, there's 3 driving modes:
#1 - EV Mode. Off line acceleration and in normal driving conditions under roughly 75 km/hr. The battery powers the drive motor, no gasoline is used. You're in 100% EV only mode.
#2 - Hybrid drive mode. When strong acceleration occurs, the generation Motor runs at optimum fuel-efficiency to create electricity, with the Drive Motor providing acceleration.
#3 - Engine Drive Mode. When high speed driving is cruising, like on the highway, the engine runs at optimum fuel-efficiency to power the wheels, and charge the battery at the same time.
As you've seen, Honda mimics shifting in the Hybrid Civic so it feels super natural and same as ICE, minus the negatives you'd find in a traditional ICE transmission OR droning noise like in a Toyota's hybrid eCVT. Remember, Civic Hybrid has no transmission, it's 100% direct drive.
Looking forward to your review, I think you'll be super impressed. At Honda's price point and with the Civic's generous interior room, it's competing with the Camry imo.
Having got one myself, I'd describe the phases as:
1) ev mode, engine off
2) ev mode, but the engine is running to charge the battery
3) hybrid mode, engine and battery powering the wheels
4) engine mode, engine direct drive to the wheels
How it decides is a mystery as I've gone up hills with 33% charge at 30mph in ev mode, but had hybrid mode going 30mph on flat straight road with full charge.
It seems to have decided 60mpg is what it shall do, no more - no less 😂
@@supsock180 Your mode #2 does not exist. You can't charge the battery, and use iit to power the motor, at the same time.
But in #3 and #4, the engine can be producing more power than the wheels need. The excess charges the battery, which is probably what you've observed.
lol man I was all set to see you flog it on the track, and then the video ends. totally didn't see that coming.
@@acrsrt8721 hasn't stopped them before
3:50 I completely agree with Thomas. I had a 2014 F-150 FX2 with heated and ventilated seats, and’s would not do without ventilated in the Lightning. So the only choices were the Lariat and Platinum. After this scorching summer, I definitely don’t regret the decision.
I think it looks better than Hondas have for a while. This really intrigues me.
3:44 💯 agree. Heated seats are on for few mins until it warms the seat and it's off. Ventilated on all the time and no sweaty back
I clicked to see a car. I saw a car. I'm happy.
I love how you don’t undermine these economy cars in the reviews. Love the positivity!
The more I drive this car the more I like it, so much power so quite. And I got 4L/100km in city is amazing.
Bought a 2025 Sport Hybrid (non Touring) last week. Have put just over 500 km on it and I've used just over half tank of gas. And it's fun to drive! Phenomenal, just a good all-arounder.
Feels like the Skoda Octavia here in Germany. Big enough Station Wagon for the Family, 200HP Diesel, 400NM Torque, AWD and 4.5l/100km while cruising. Just good cars for normal people
Thomas and I agree, ventilated seats, one of the greatest things in modern autos.
It's not a CVT. Most of the time, the engine acts as a generator for the electric motor that powers the wheels. Once you're at motorway/highway speeds a clutch engages that sends power from the engine to the wheels through a single speed gearbox.
Owned one in europe for almost 2 years. Amazing transmission. Puts so many other manufacturers to shame. Took it on a 3k road trip across europe this year. It never faulted and always a pleasure to drive.
These guys are great but like too many car reviewers (and consumers for that matter) have gotten jaded and expect every mod con under the sun.We have become victims of feature creep. Do we really NEED things like cooled seats? The majority of car owners would be perfectly happy with a well engineered, reasonably reliable car with AC, cruise control, a decent sounding stereo and is fuel efficient. This top of the line Civic is a total home run and is brimming with standard features. Who could be dissatisfied with that?
My favorite car reviewers on UA-cam! Great job again!
❤❤❤❤❤ have crz want this one !
@@lynnmcculloch-m4h is your CR-Z manual or CVT?
Why does it have to be so great as a basic car
I don't want to buy one, but yet it has basically everything I need in a car
100% on ventilated seats. Drove my first car with ventilated seats this past week and holy shit. I'll never buy another ride without them.
The best feature is that you can get this in the hatchback, which makes it even more practical.
I have the new Accord that uses a similar climate control, and I have to say that I love that the Auto climate function also controls the heated (and cooled in the Accord) seats. It makes it so that you only ever have to adjust one knob to get comfortable.
Hot? Turn the dial up and the car will actually wait for the air to get warm before turning up the fan speed, and then once the cabin is up to temp it will then turn down the fan speed so you’re not getting hot air blown on you when the cabin is already warm. Same for the seats. It starts high and then turns itself down when up to temp.
If you just pick a temp number and just trust the car to do the rest, it’s an incredibly easy and well designed experience.
Come on guys, get the facts straight. This car doesn't have a CVT... It's a direct driven electric motor without gears. The gas engine can assist, starting at 43 mph, where the ratio matches the drivetrain without bogging. This powertrain is unique in the industry.
The heated seats being synced to the HVAC is a toggle in the vehicle settings menu.
I own the 25 Sport Touring and I’ve seen the lockup clutch engage as low as 38 MPH. Accord might be different and CR-V has 2 lockup clutches.
Got fired an hour ago reached home n 30 seconds in the video I'm laughing love u guys n James y are u saying I'm James like that chill bro chill
I disagree, this car is quite a nice kettle. It’s not a fancy kettle, but it’s nice.
Well, aren't you just a nice pot? 😉
You got me at the end, LOL
NO I DONT KNOW WHAT. DAMN IT THOMAS
The only YT channel that could get me to watch a video about this car.
This is a REALLY solid car folks.
Is it a bit vanilla? Sure…but I know most of my kings in the comment section are practical family guys too.
This thing will last forever. It’s got plenty of power for civic things, it’s relatively inexpensive, parts are cheap and easy to replace, there’s a YT video for nearly every replacement you’re not familiar with, it gets over 50mpg.
I’m with Thomas on this one…vented seats are a game changer for me and they should have allowed the option on the touring.
Otherwise, this is a winner.
A major simplification for Honda on these, though, is no options - there are trims and that's it. There's no variation other than exterior and interior colors.
Totally agree on the significance of ventilated seats. Once you get used to them, anything else is a serious downgrade to comfort. Lane keep assist is similar in its surprising effectiveness of reducing the baseline stress of driving IMO.
I would love so see a daily driver shootout between this, a Prius, and either a sonata or K5
Civic vs Prius vs Niro. That’d be ideal.
@@KNRS927isn’t the Niro a crossover?
@@bradenfitzpatrick8352 Kia can try and call it one all they want, but it’s a hatchback for me and most enthusiasts, I’d imagine. No AWD, and it’s only about an inch taller than a legacy while being shorter than most other AWD subcompact SUVs by 3-4 inches. It’s a hatchback and even feels like one. Plus similar price range to Prius and civic.
Just test-drove a Sport Touring; this review is spot on. Buying a blue one this weekend. Such an easy choice.
I had 18 civic base
I now have 25 touring
Holy shit
God gawd and the goose fat
Best car i ever drove
Love all your reviews. Thanks for still reviewing (sometimes) the boring car too.
10:50 yes! It irks me to no end that new and hi-end cars have done away with the sunglass holder.
I love this channel!
It reminds me of the old Yaris ads.
It has windows that go up AND DOWN.
Completely agree with Thomas on cooled seats.
1. Cooled seats
2. Backup camera. Even though I'm quite the capable driver lol, I find it useful when I wind up parked between two rolling cargo ships.
3. Android Auto/Apple CarPlay connectivity. Preferably without multiple screens everywhere.
This is the perfect car (in hatchback form) for 90% of the population, including myself. Incredibly efficient, comfortable, moderately quick, handles well, Honda reliability, hugely practical and not too big. And yet I'll keep my G70 3.3T cuz I like powerrrrrrrrrrrr. And ventilated seats.
Love the thorough, in depth conclusion segment on these vids. Great job guys!
3:41 agree.
I have the 24 touring and she’s amazing, came from a bunch of beaters. Very grateful 😢
That cut off at the end when Thomas was about to cook something lolol
Best car on the market for the money period.
I guess it depends on needs, you can get a 2025 Camry SE hybrid with the same 50mpg for the same price. It looks like this might be more fun to drive though but the Camry will have more room in it and probably be a little more comfortable on long road trips.
@@BrianNC81 yeah I think the Camry wins the value pick, but if you enjoy driving, the Civic hybrid is the one to get.
my favorite kind of reviews you guys make! 👍
One of the hybrid cars of all time
I would agree with Thomas about the cooled seats, in my opinion the best features in the past 20 years are a rear view camera, CarPlay and cooled seats
unpopular opinion, but I've only ever used cooled seats one; in the backseat of a new 7-series. It was a wow feature and I totally didn't need it. Total excess, in my opinion.
I'd be totally ok if this came with roll-down windows and manually adjustable side mirrors.
Your videos are mostly about crazy exotic cars, which is nice, but we can never dream of actually getting behind the wheel of one of those. Your videos about cars we might actually be able to afford different. Not better or worse, different. I wish you would do more of them. Could we do a video mourning the loss of vehicle models whose time came too soon? The Mazda six, for example. Love watching you guys. The “gained a couple hundred pounds…. But who hasn’t” - brilliant James.
11:12 the video suddenly ends?
Edit: My bad it was intentional
That’s the style of the extra videos I think. They all kinda end randomly without a real ending.
Yeah that’s their thing on this channel. All of their videos end unexpectedly
@@hudsonr6358 I don't know what to think about that. I hate it when things just
I canNOT believe you cut the video there! You actually got me.
50 miles a gallon is crazy
Closer to 53/US gallon at 4.5 l/100 km. It's weird that they used US gallons on a Canadian channel. That's a 62.5 mile/gallon car in Canada.
@@neilgendzwill3260 seriously. Gallons need to be put to bed, both imperial and US gallons.
Camry does the same thing and it’s bigger…
@@MPowerSubie12 only marginally, and the Civic is significantly more fun to drive
Here in Europe we need Honda Civic manual back❤❤❤.
Great video keep it up 🤟💪
Truly one of the cars of all time.
Yes!! Thank you!! Love the shout out to ventilated seats!! Ventilated seats should be in every vehicle!!
As a car salesman at the end 11:06 of this video is exactly how non car people buy cars
4:55 you don't have to turn on/off the seat heater, you have to set your temperature on the AC to your desired temperature and it will turn on or off your seat heater when the temperature is achieved.
I thought this car had no transmission. It’s a direct drive set up where it doesn’t use a conventional CVT or automatic. I could be wrong though
Yep, pure electric power at low speeds with the engine clutched directly to the wheels when at highway speed. It does make the peak horsepower number somewhat disingenuous though as you'll really have to be hauling to make the full 200.
@@SlabBulkhead166 Even then it needs at least a few gears, even if the EV system goes up to 60mph purely electric the car engine can't have 1 gear to go 60-top speed.
@@Daniel-dj7fhYet, it is a direct driven electric motor without gears. The gas engine can assist, starting at 43 mph, where the ratio matches the drivetrain without bogging.
@@Daniel-dj7fh Yet it does not have a few gears. It has one gear, mainly for highway efficiency.
@@RavnHood Again, 43mph - top speed is not 1 gear
I am really excited to watch this review! I have been looking to buy this car, and I love seeing any review I can get about it!
If only they made this in a manual like the civic hybrids of old. The civic chassis is so good and an NA engine + hybrid assist for an efficient daily/family car makes so much sense. I just still want to row my own gears.
It's direct driven. It's basically an electric car with gas assist. It has no gears.
Where are you that there is a trim w a heated steering wheel? I’m not seeing that in the US.
The way they feel about this car is how I feel about the current gen Chevy Malibu. My office has one as a company car and I remember when I first drive it I was like DAMMIT! I like this car 😩😂 It’s so well damped, and the CVT is actually good. And the seats are comfortable. And the view outside is great. And the steering is great. As a car enthusiast, I was so mad at how much I liked the Malibu.
Rented one and felt the same way.
It doesn't have a CVT. The video is wrong. It has an eCVT, big difference. ua-cam.com/video/QLUIExAnNcE/v-deo.htmlsi=LEdS5dEdbFAJR8zD
We hate you a little for that ending 🤯🤣🏎️
this is the car of all time
Thomas coming in hot with that sunglasses holder, not even kidding, very useful. Another great review of one of the cars of all time!!
The fact I just watched these guys review one of the most normal, npc sorta cars and was still completely entertained and interested, speaks to how good Throttle House is. Straight up carrying the torch of Top Gear imo
Love the ending 😂❤
That ending is hilarious. On topic; as much as I like this car, the new Camry is better. It gets slightly better L/100, similar features/drivability, is similar pricing, and it looks better. Still, good to know the civic is out there and is a solid car.
Oh gawd I feel like that ended on a crazy cliff hanger! DAAAAAAMMMMNNNNN YOOOOOOOU!
Something to consider...
As great as this Civic Hybrid Touring is, and it truly is great in every important way, no doubt about it, for the same money you can get a 2025 Camry LE with the Convenience and Cold Weather packages. Now you have a larger, roomier, quieter, plusher, more comfortable car that has more power, available AWD (only $1,500 more), and even better fuel mileage (53 city/50 hwy, vs 50 city/47 hwy for the Civic Hybrid Touring) while also giving you a heated steering wheel, adjustable lumbar control, and rear-seats AC, none of which are available on the Honda. Additionally, the Camry has a 10 year/150,000-mile hybrid battery warranty, vs Honda's 10 year/100K warranty, and the Honda only has direct injection vs the Camry having Toyota's D-4S port/direct injection system which prevents the carbon buildup on the intake vales that will occur with the Honda's DI-only fueling system. The Camry is also the only car out there (besides its Toyota and Lexus siblings) that can equal or even surpass the Civic hybrid's long-term reliability and low running costs. Given a choice between the Honda and Toyota hybrid systems, I think most mechanics would trust both to go the distance, but if they were forced to choose between them in terms of which one will more likely do 250,000-300,000 miles without issues the Camry would be the choice. It uses a larger 2.5L motor vs the Honda's 2.0L, and its 5th-generation hybrid system is more proven.
Can't go wrong with either one, but the Camry certainly offers more car for the money, including more of what the typical hybrid sedan buyer wants: comfort, fuel mileage, tank range, and low running costs.
No heated steering wheel in US market. Wife's cold hands had to to pass on it. Test drive was very nice and we wanted to love it and almost did
Currently looking at trading my '20 Mercedes A35 for a hatchback touring. Willing to give up AWD performance for dependability and the peace of mind of not having to wonder when the diff is going to explode or the cylinder head fail... oh wait, it has been in the shop for two weeks so far waiting for that new cylinder head. Honda is looking real nice from here.
The camera angles are perfect