Ukraine deploying weapon first used by the Romans to grind Russian vehicles to a halt
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- A simple but effective device, inspired by techniques once used by the Roman Empire, is being used to disrupt Russian vehicles by the Ukrainian armed forces.
Known as a caltrop, the device is a four-pronged, heavy gauge steel puncturing spike which can be used to disable vehicles.
The idea originated from a technique used by the Romans to disrupt enemy cavalry and horses and its design means one devastating spike is always thrust upwards.
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We don’t have these in the UK we have potholes 😂
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This is too true and funny. Should be the top comment.
Potholes are more lethal to your suspension than caltrop.
@@garden2356 It is the top comment!
Whoa now! Slow down with your 13" rims in a coffee cup sized hole in the pavement..
Cheap to manufacture, doesn't need high qualification workers, easy to deploy, no risk to engineers in the field, easy to recover, not a danger for post-war life like anti-personnel or anti-tank mines are.
But they aren't going to change anything - they need something game changing like a peace agreement.
@@BrownBabyJesus that’s up to ruzzia: Ukraine’s told them what they need to do for peace. Every day they choose not to is another day wasted.
@@alexc4300 it's not really up to Russia when the president of Ukraine who campaigned as the candidate for peace signed a law making negotiations illegal.
@@BrownBabyJesus proof?
Such pathetic cope
Monty Python posed the question in Life of Brian: "What did the Romans do for us ? "
Now we have another thing to add to the list...
Brilliant
Don't forget pizzas! 🙂
... the aqueduct??
@@chesschicken1698 And the sanitation.
It was actually the Greeks whom the Romans followed and copied ideas from. The Greeks used Caltrops in the Battle of Carrhae against the Romans. The Greeks won. The biggest mistake the Romans made was succumbing to Christianity. What a mistake. They should've believed in themselves and stayed strong. Instead they became weak so they may inherit the World in death. What nonsense.
The Romans didn't invent them.
The trick is that the needles are hollow and it allows the air to rush out. The solid needles are less effective
They give you a bumpy ride.😅
The hollow needles also weigh less which makes them even more suited for drone delivery.
All true; but rebar’s readily available, easy to weld, strong, and cheap. Tubing less so.
Never thought of that. Clever!
To be fair, the first clip - the factory - shows high quality tubular model, but the second - the destroyed truck tyre - is the simple rebar type. It’s probably a balance of time, availability of materials, skill, cost, deployment style, etc. I’m no welder but I could make the simple rebar type - so they’re probably widely available; the tubular type takes more skill and higher quality material but is better suited to drone deployment. There’s a good short series, “War is algebra.” Everything’s a balance - there is usually no one right answer. And sometimes you just have to go with what you have to hand, or can make in time.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If it ain't fixed, don't break it 😂
Well, they fixed it they put holes in it instead of a solid pole
@@USS_Grey_Ghost 🤔 what???
@@thenoobalmighty8790 the original ones are literally just pole welded together from history. These have holes in the middle of each making them a pipe which lets air out faster the tire faster when the Don’t rupture in a tire shredding bang.
@@USS_Grey_Ghost ahh yeah like the police stingers, yeah theyre hollow to deflate the tyres quick.
As an Army engineer, I made it a point to teach armor about concertina. It is far more effective than you might imagine, binding tracks and drive wheels to bring the tanks grinding to a halt and requiring hours of maintenance to undo.
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Jesus it's a mess if it gets wrapped around axle or god forbid drive shaft
If you get close to that stuff at all, it snags ya.
I don't see it effective against artillery, missiles and drones at all. But I am not an army engineer like you. You do your 20th century wars.
@@Ludak021 Both Russians and Ukrainians still dig trenches. And at the end of the day you need to advance.
Folks in the Western US still use caltrops to keep hunters and fisherman from trespassing. Or at least getting very far in their 4x4’s and ATV’s. They are cheap and easy to make.
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Sounds effective, But i see it just like setting a trap for furs..
If you leave it out unattended, its just cruel.
They dont discriminate when wild animals step on them
@@scallie6462These are not small they are for TIRES so animals do not have a issue with them, OR show me a possum, racoon, deer any proof I am mistaken. I love nature and always have, but these tools are needed and not really as bad as when you drive down the road and kill bee's butterflies, birds, snakes ,turtles and on and on....
If they are made of some type of tubing, tubeless tires with Slime will still go flat.
@@robertqueberg4612 indeed, like the spike strips cops use. But I suspect the ones I have seen were probably sufficient enough of a pain in the ass to impede sportsman sneakiness. 😊
Abandoned by the Romans when the Visigoths developed run-flat tyres on their chariots.
Still not a friend to horses...
Charlton Heston just drove round them in Ben Hur.
(But Kirk Douglas copped one right up his leather tunic)- ouch!
The Romans were far ahead of their times. These were obsolete as the Roman’s devised the first metal detector, magnets.
and run-flat hoofs on horses lol
We always think that technology is the answer when we might already have all that we need. Thank you for sharing this! Best of luck to the Ukraine!
"If it's stupid,
But it works,
Then it isn't stupid"
Often said by my first 1st Sergeant; ca. 1986
That and, "You've got to be SMARTER than the equipment you're working with..."
Everything old is new again, just like clothing...
My drone has flairs. Not flares, "flairs".
'bouta bring the old Roman skirts back into fashion.
I dated a girl years ago, 6 years my jumior.
I wet to buy shoes and picked out a pair, she said her father (40's) used to wear those and suggested a different style.
I told her my father used to wear those, he died aged 74.
Oh no. A flares back again?
Quebec roads inflict far more damage and not only to the tires.
One of your lot taught the UK to do this..very effectively
Yes, I hate driving in Quebec because the roads are so bad! 😅
@@davidlynch9049 They don't have potholes in Ukraine, they have holes where schools, hospitals, and housing used to be. Cry harder.
Used caltrops in Northern Ireland during op banner a smaller version carried in flat metal boxes could be pulled across the road quickly if needed
Without even watching the video, I'm going to guess that the weapon is caltrops. A weapon used by the Romans and Medieval armies to stop cavalry and even infantry charges.
Yep.
The old tricks are the best tricks😂
Romans had drones?
true, the older they get, the less teeth they have to mangle your shaft.
I thought you meant turning the road signs round the other way to totally confuse the enemy
That would work. So would putting up road signs in a rare language that's either used by few people or one that has gone extinct. Ukrainians know where they are but if they're lost, they could just have their own language code.
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They did this in Dad's Army in UK
@@garden2356 Oh yes !! i loved that show !!!
@@preriowy WW2 they did that: the further you advanced, the more confused you got, and the wider the front.
Didn't James Bond use them from his car?
Yep, during the multi-story car chase scene in Tomorrow Never Dies
@@Charisma86 and Sean Connery as well
@@Charisma86I think western countries enjoying the comedian and his role play in Ukraine
No Le Chiffre did in the book Casino Royal.
@@easternvibeIf he's role-playing, what are the losers doing?
Slava Ukraini!
Slava russaini
Slobber Ukraini
the progression of better mouse - better mousetrap is not linear, and sometimes the old mousetrap works on today's mouse
I've seen many of those. When the coal miners were on strike in the seventies in southwest Virginia, the strikers would scatter those on the roads where the coal trucks didn't stop hauling to support the strike. They were very effective.
It's so useful it make the Russian retreating Forward.
Or are they advancing to the rear?
How’s that two week special operation coming along Comrade Cuntyeast? 😂
@@zach11241 Actually really well 10 million Ukrainians have left Ukraine, 5 million are internal refugees, 65% of the electrical grid is destroyed, industrial capacity diminished , 20% of the most GNP producing areas are in Russian hands forever .And Ukraine is totally Bankrupt.
@@zach11241 really dude? That's your best take from all the lies in this war? How about Ukraine won 2 years ago? Russia is bankrupt or gas station with nukes? Nothing? 2 weeks one is the best you have? I could go on with the quotes from the west...Also, if you are drinking that cool-aid, aren't you afraid? Russia is about to nuke Europe, you have to stop them!
Ukraine is still losing. They have no chance in the long run but your propaganda makes you believe otherwise.
Added to pile of game changers.
Zelenskiy was the game changer: "I dont need a ride. I need ammunition." That was 790 days ago.
Stopped more Russian vehicles than the Abrams tanks !!! 🇬🇧 💗 🇷🇺
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Just goes to show that sometimes the simplest ideas are the best.
Stupid idea
@@clutchitup8565 No, Ivan, it clearly works, and works well, so it's only stupid to the RuSSian child-killers.
@@clutchitup8565yet it works
The hollow tube ones will cut a plug out that no self-sealing tire can possibly counter.
So, I used to play a vocab game with someone until I brought up caltrops and they quit lol. They were used to maim horses and slow cavalry in the bronze age. Now, same concept except vehicles are the modern cavalry.
They could also be dropped by drones onto power lines and into sub-stations to short out the electrical network in Ruzzia.
They are hacking American infrastructure, we should reciprocate.
Caltrops have been in continual use since the Greeks. They were used against cavalry until the modern age. Infantrymen would seed the field in front or throw them into the path of oncoming horsemen, and they have been used in the twentieth and twenty first centuries against soft wheeled vehicles, often dropped by cluster bombs. There are many clever designs. Home made ones were widely used against the Germans by resistance groups in Europe who quietly placed them on roads by hand. The games that little girls used to play called "jacks" with six pointed stars and a rubber ball are miniature versions, and in the seventies oversized ones made of heavy metal were popular as book ends in the United States.
I love that spiral clock at 0:52
The Japanese word for Caltrop is Tetsubishi which means iron diamond . Many times in Japanese history a cavalry charge has been blunted by sowing tetsubishi on the battlefield .
The German word is Krähenfuß - Crow's foot
@@PatrickKursawe There is a European polearm called Bec Du Corbin wich means Beak of the Crow . I believe it was mostly used by Knights and elite Men At Arms to puncture the armor worn by their opponents . I served in the US Navy for ten years and was stationed at Yokosuka Japan as an MP for two years . Nihongo shimasho mos scoshi , Deutch nein . Espaniol yo palabra un poco .
The English word is stinger, short for bull- shi**er..
@@victorwaddell6530yes I remember when the U.S. navy wore that armour, (they looked very macho rowing those plywood MTBs) - pull the other one Vicky 🙏
Some ideas never get old.
Old is gold
How did I know it was caltrops before even clicking the video?
Because you’re familiar with Republica Balboa?
Because you either read, or watch videos, about history, war, and weapons. Which is great. Or maybe you learned about them from playing video games which I can’t fairly comment on because I am pre-video game vintage :)
Next, they will be talking about bronze-age weapons such as knives.
They’re using those in London…loads of knives on the street…
War. War never changes.
Ah my favorite item in D&D!
In America the police call them a spike strip. It is used to stop vehicles that the police are chasing.
Pretty much used in every Western country.
Yes the rest of the world is still in the stone Age and we haven't worked that out
My comments are being deleted thank you Google
i can hear the war in the air
This is practical in so many ways crazy how effective an ancient technology is even in present day
Caltrops are super effective. They use big (appx 24") ones to block the closed gates on military bases too.
Im really amazed the Russians are not using run flat tires by this point
Too expensive. They're fighting this war on a small budget.
@@meatpopsicle1567 they sell them by the ton here in the US. Since like the late nineties.
Some of the Russian vehicles in this war are so old that they have solid tyres… 😏
@@geronimo5537 But, Russia is not the U.S., so there is that.
@@meatpopsicle1567 Isn't it nice to not have a dysfunctional society, to have higher standards than Russia?
Caesar employ them outside his fortifications during the battle of Alesia , it slowed the charge of the Gauls!!!
We don't even know where Alesia is, so there!
Why not look at the Wikipedia account then? Or better still, why not read Caesar’s own account in De Bello Gallico- there’s plenty of translations.
@@animalreproductionsouthafr5184 This is because we were asleep in history class.
My brother is smart and stayed awake in class. He looked it up online and said, Alesia, ancient town situated on Mont Auxois, above the present-day village of Alise-Sainte-Reine in the département of Côte d’Or, France.
But he's much smarter than we are.
We are not strong.
@@animalreproductionsouthafr5184It's in Gall/Gaul now known as France.
@@protorhinocerator142 If you keep broadcasting how dumb & weak you and Bubba are, the whole world will know. Keep it a secret or lie about it. 🤣 😄 🤤 🤐
Zoomers discovered anti-tank hedgehogs, but smaller ones
Actually anti tank hedgehogs are a derivitive of the caltrop.
More like, Anti-Tank Giant Caltrops.
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This is so genius
Ingenious!
What the Romans taught us - lots !
Stop Sticks on a chain. Plywood with 16 penny framing nails works wonders too, and very easy to throw leaves and dirt on it, and hide it on a dirt road.
Smart, keep it up.
The art of war
A insightful "read"... 📜
@@ovalwingnut unless you are a courtesan prone to giggle. *ouch
Fascinating
Funny how they all are attached by a chain so they can remove them with a bmp or tracked vehicle, or in some cases by hand given a couple minutes, them shining in the light dont make them very stealthy
They drive over mines left laying out openly, don’t think they`ll concern themselves with a couple of spiky chains
The chained ones would be for entanglement in multi wheel drivelines, once the chain is wrapped around axles or driveshafts you aren't going anywhere. As for shiny nothing a layer of mud or a quick squirt with spray paint can't fix.
@@raygale4198 rust
Genius
The cartels have been using those in Mexico for decades.
To stop police cars?
@@philtucker1224 yes sir and rival cartels. They’ve even deployed them on the U.S. side.
Creativity is important...
I used those to keep my wife out of the TV Room when I was watching sports. She wised up & swept them aside with a broom. (as vehicle drivers learned to attach angled brushes to their vehicles to sweep caltrops aside) I finally learned to eat chilli or cabbage before a sporting event. That kept her the Hell away.
Gas warfare is against the Geneva Convention.
The Romans had caltrops with barbs on the spikes, like fishhooks...
Yeah, but all you need to do on a paved road is mount a deflector in front of the tires (that sits like an inch off the ground) and they're no longer a threat. Give it a bit of a spring and put rollers on the edges, and it won't even get damaged when the tire bounces down on the road. I mean, I'm glad that people are being creative, but this is only effective in the very short term.
When are we going to see the trebuchet drone?
Oh did you miss it again? It got shot down mate..
"Lazy Tom's" where used in Northern Ireland at vehicle check points. By the British Army. They were also taken on patrols for use in random check points. These were a piece of chain with spikes through it. They were quite heavy, and so they would be cut in half. The result was then known as" half lazy Tom's". Ingenious!
The bit about being heavy and cutting them in half spoiled your story for me Keith you complete ball- shi**er. (No offence buddy) 😁
Caltrops
Hollow tubes would limit escape by coring the tire instead of a slow leak.
In my country we call them : Miguelitos, older than injustice.
Argentina??
Ukraine needs all the help that it can get.
Really? Cause they seem to be getting billions of dollars of American money to "help"
@Downthesight you can tell the hundreds of billions of dollars of western equipment is helping because the Ukrainians keep retreating
@@downthesight Can't have too much of a good thing. So many civil servants and pensioners to pay . . .
@EllieMaes-Grandad yeah German pensioners who worked here 50+ years are collecting deposit bottles to get by. Young Ukrainians "refugees" traveling Europe, visiting Ukraine, and sitting in cafés on work hours all thanks to our hard earned tax money😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬
@@EllieMaes-Grandadplus a certain leader's wife spending thousands shopping.
Had those back in the 80's Germany. Only problem was getting them deployed. Was a pain.
Much easier now with drones...imagine what the Romans would think!
If they are dropping them with drones, why all the heavy chains? They must need Skycrane Hilocopters to drop those.
Rommel had larger ones lining the shore on D-Day. They caused a lot of physical problems effecting landing craft and the Allies.
When you're left with no modern weapons you do this
Sometimes older solutions are better than modern ones
@@nukeputin420cope
No, when you can stop an expensive military vehicle with something that can be made in a garage, you use it. Lack of weapons doesnt make this an even better idea
@@nukeputin420 like how Ukraine is sending geriatric old men to the front lines? That’s supposed to be better lol?
@@-Zardoz- Ukraine’s also got military robots and a virtually endless stream of free hardware. Freedom ain’t cheap, but it sure does breed generosity.
Caltrops? Yup caltrops
Those Romans were smart!
Ive heard that the madagaskar navy uses these in their submarines…
Dont forget mud !!
Caltrops. Used by armies for centuries. Until gunpowder.
The Information Age always lets the enemy know exactly what they are doing.
Ok so all russia needs is high powered magnet on front if tank to pick them up lolol
A problem quite rare on their side, however the Russians use special troops to shoot their runners!
The metal needed to make strong, unpowered magnets may be to difficult for Russia to get, and an electro magnet would require a huge amount of electricity, which may be too complicated to be worthwhile (or doable).
They used them in Korea as well
Someone took the phrase "Going medieval" exactly the right kind of literally
ingeniousity
So they won’t need the 61 billion $ after all?
$31b after kickbacks
@@truthboomertruthbomber5125 Wouldn't it be great if you didn't carelessly waste $3 TRILLION in Iraq, so we could have that money for a legitimate conflict?
@@truthboomertruthbomber5125 I wish I was bitching about money on 9/11, rather than enlisting to serve your lies.
Ivan Ivanovich Ivanovsky: "That's a good idea! Let's do that too!"
Meanwhile, Ukrainians are already working on countermeasures.
I thought Vladimir "Vladivostok" Vladorovich said that one.
Putin Anthracite Fedorovich
@@protorhinocerator142 Nah! VVV is famous for the "War is a good idea! Let's bomb 'em!" quote. Easily confused.
Take this, filp the sides and that why Western equipment fails after sometime.
Do you mean a magnet?
Everything old is new again! 🤯
I have 20 of these odd pyramid shaped devices and they certainly will pop a tire lol
They always act like this thing can stop the whole Russian advance when in fsct it actually can't.
No one is saying that except you Russian bots.
You always act like your opinions should be valued, when in fsct your UA-cam account was created a few months before your invasion of Ukraine.
they can't stop tank or APC with track
Most transport is wheeled on roads
But can they stop a fighter jet, that's the question in everybodys mind.
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They'll work for boots and golf carts. Chained together they can cause more than a little trouble for rubber treads bogeys on a tracked vehicle
@@kahvaimuri2824The smart ass answer is : YES !
…when spread over the runway at takeoff !
Just goes to show how rock-solid ancient ideas were.
Congrats to the Ukrainians!
They just made themselves a mark..
If they were using hollow pipes to make them, they would cause the tires to go flat more quickly
They are hollow, look closely
The first ones shown weren’t, they were made out of rebar.
@@ChopperCindy some were, others werent, you are both right.
I doubt it matters. Tyre is ruined and probably means you are about to get ambushed.
Based on the photos of shredded tires, the solid ones let the air out just fine.
"Act accordingly" -wranglerstar
In domestic life, the equivalent for flattening the feet would LEGOS and/or toy jacks.
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LMAO This is why the US military has vehicles with airless tires/tires that can drive on the rims.
How long can they drive on the rims on a dirt track for? If these are used every day the tires will get worn out.
Im really amazed the Russians are not using run flat tires by this point
Meanwhile Russians : *vents* Amogus.
Caltrops never stopped being used
CALTROPS! YES! Very dear to my heart; as I've studied sword, sheild and spear, and spent some time on a trebuche team. Cheap and effective! It's time we pulled a few very old reliable tricks from the history books. History nerds are pleased!
The Russians just keep moving forward I guess someone at Forces News forgot to tell them to stop when the Ukrainians put some trinkets on the road.
I see the Russian bots are still being "deployed"
You're clearly a paid CIA shill
Don’t make them from rebar or solid bar stock, use hollow tubing like shown in some of the video because the solid bar stock version will be stronger but when puncturing the tire it will deflate the tire very slowly and the hollow tube version will deflate the tires almost immediately. Now the solid bar stock version does have some benefits when being used against dismounted troops (on foot) or actual traditional cavalry forces actually on horseback but that hasn’t been a common occurrence since WWII
I'm sure this will turn them back, they'd never have come if they had known!
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Very smart
Anyone who’s ever stepped on a Jack will attest to the brutal effectiveness of such a device!
Wow, a historic Stinger, as used by British car cops!
Caltrops we not first used by the Romans.
The greeks used them, as did Alexander the Great.
@@stuartandrews4344 yes, both famously not Roman
All Greek to me
Welcome to the world of labor disputes in the Americas. Here they're called "Jack Rocks" and used to disable non-union vehicle traffic trying to cross picket lines or service companies experiencing strikes. Been in wide use here since living memory.
Thanks for the drone tip, though. Will file that one away for later, LOL.
UK roads policing units use smaller versions to stop fleeing cars that are being pursued.
Where is the switch that selects between non-union vehicles and other vehicles?
@@pirobot668beta Right?? LOL.
@@pirobot668beta The chain