Apathy Is Death: We Don't Care About New Star Wars Anymore...

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  • Опубліковано 30 жов 2023
  • In this video we talk about why we have become apathetic towards modern Star Wars which is all thanks to what Disney has been doing to the franchise that we loved. Not a pleasant experience being a Star Wars fan these days to be honest, but here are our arguments ;)
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  • @TheScoundresCantina
    @TheScoundresCantina  8 місяців тому +23

    Our entire channel got demonetized a few days ago (check our community post for details) and in the next 10 days until we try to appeal we will be posting every single day if possible despite not earning anything. Some things won't be precisely edited like this short lore video because we need more "original content" which will have to include random phone recordings which we will try to make interesting. If you want to help us survive until we get monetized again, please help is in the following month at least over patreon since YT is our entire income and keeps the two of us going along with our families: www.patreon.com/thescoundrelscantina

    • @stendhoul656
      @stendhoul656 5 місяців тому +2

      OH SO YOU'RE JUST SALTY BECAUSE YOUR CHANNEL GOT DEMONETIZED LMAO

  • @MrWill9002
    @MrWill9002 8 місяців тому +39

    Ah a sad fact. It’s all a mess thanks to Kennedy’s incompetence. I feel even Kreia would let her have it

    • @CarolDowning-lm7fm
      @CarolDowning-lm7fm 8 місяців тому +7

      Add to that that Kennedy simply doesn't give a f*ck about what SW fans want, or fans of anything else she's poisoned in the last few years. George do you still feel like selling to Disney was a good idea?

    • @MrWill9002
      @MrWill9002 8 місяців тому +4

      @@CarolDowning-lm7fm And do you want a good example of Kennedy's incompetence? Three words: The Last Airbender.

    • @moderndemon84
      @moderndemon84 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CarolDowning-lm7fmYes,George defends them.

  • @MrLolguy93
    @MrLolguy93 8 місяців тому +24

    I remember when compabies wanted my money, instead of giving me a lecture.
    Best of luck to Nelson Peltz

  • @AnimaVox_
    @AnimaVox_ 8 місяців тому +70

    Old Star Wars was honestly so much better, even the little bad content it had still has more charm than the best Di$ney has to offer. At least we can still preserve the EU stuff, and I highly recommend people find a way to archive those stories before the suits get a chance to tamper with them further than the stupid 'Legends' label they've placed on all re-prints.

    • @Aikurisu
      @Aikurisu 8 місяців тому +6

      In a way it was the best thing that could have happened to Star Wars, in that the EU was abandoned in favour of the Disney Timeline. Makes it much easier to separate the two.

    • @beskamir5977
      @beskamir5977 8 місяців тому +9

      @@Aikurisu True, if that hadn't happened we'd have a ruined EU in addition to Disney's canon. This way at least, the EU was preserved intact. Although if it's ever restarted I really hope the clone wars tv show will not be a part of it. The micro series and comics it overwrote were in many ways superior from a lore perspective.

    • @Aikurisu
      @Aikurisu 8 місяців тому

      @@beskamir5977 I used to think differently for the longest time but the more I think back on things I'm more inclined to agree. That said, TCW does do a lot of things right and I appreciate what it did for the prequel era in helping flesh it out. Nowadays, though? I don't treat it like gospel.
      If anything, I consider it more of a legends outlook that looks at moments during the Clone Wars... from a certain point of view. How true it is is open to interpretation so we can pluck things from it much like how I pluck good things from the Disney Timeline and make them make sense in the EU.
      ... sure, that basically comes down to Rogue One, Andor and maybe those stories involving Cal Kestis... and perhaps a touch of Bad Batch and Rebels, if only to find a way to let someone like the animated Hera exist. Just not her live-action version, haha.

    • @beskamir5977
      @beskamir5977 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Aikurisu I agree. TCW is pretty cool on it's own. But when considered within the greater Star Wars universe it's pretty bad. Captain Fordo made a couple feature length youtube videos on this subject aptly titled *Why "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" Doesn't Fit In Legends*

    • @Aikurisu
      @Aikurisu 8 місяців тому +3

      @@beskamir5977 Thanks for the recommendation. Been watching them and... yeah. I think I'm at that point where I believe the worst thing to happen to Star Wars was Darth Filoni.

  • @jacobshore5115
    @jacobshore5115 8 місяців тому +51

    “Apathy is death. Worse than death! Because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects!”

  • @boomingbob1579
    @boomingbob1579 8 місяців тому +21

    At this point Star Wars has gotten so bad that the only emotions you feel for it is sadness because there is nothing there

    • @boomingbob1579
      @boomingbob1579 5 місяців тому

      @@cm9241 idk about children more like teenagers and up

  • @JcgLounge
    @JcgLounge 8 місяців тому +43

    I can’t believe I’m saying this. But I agree. I feel apathy for this franchise. Which is something I did not ever think would happen.

    • @gonkdroid8279
      @gonkdroid8279 7 місяців тому +4

      Agreed. Even though I liked parts of Ahsoka, the show overall was insultingly mediocre (the main characters were so bland and the plot armor was laughable). Other than Andor Season 2 and the Donald Glover Lando project I can't say I'm excited for anything Star Wars

  • @beskamir5977
    @beskamir5977 8 місяців тому +8

    Couldn't have said it better. I no longer care about Disney Star Wars. I don't even bother paying attention to Disney Star Wars anymore. I'll just catch up on the memes from a handful of youtubers and laugh at how ridiculous everything's gotten before going back to enjoying EU material.

  • @Emma_2Banks
    @Emma_2Banks 8 місяців тому +37

    I dressed up as a Jedi knight for Halloween. Yet I still get told by Disney shills that I’m not a Star Wars fan because I can’t comprehend the “beauty” of the Disney era writing…

    • @thomasjohnson1885
      @thomasjohnson1885 8 місяців тому +5

      Nice thing you made up

    • @Emma_2Banks
      @Emma_2Banks 8 місяців тому +3

      @@thomasjohnson1885 thanks, I had to look in the mirror to come up with it.

    • @thomasjohnson1885
      @thomasjohnson1885 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Emma_2Banks I hope you survive the rampant Disney fans that hurt you because as we know the sequel trilogy is such a popular beloved series that people are hating on you for. Poor you

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla 8 місяців тому +11

    Yeah, apathy is the death knell for anything. Hell, it killed Andor since while the show was pretty good, it ended up not getting an audience because the people stopped caring about the Star Wars IP.
    At least I have the old EU as an alternative.

  • @SolarWraith
    @SolarWraith 8 місяців тому +4

    Indeed...0 shits given is the state of the fandom/former fandom. Me, I'm enjoying the doom spiral of the Devil Mouse...for it is much deserved.

  • @SITH_CHAMP66
    @SITH_CHAMP66 8 місяців тому +4

    Disney Starwars has No Charm, Originality at All.
    I believe Disney is trying to do away from George Lucas version and bring there version,wich is the Sequel trilogy..
    My Starwars is the original trilogy 1-6
    Im fine with the 1-6

  • @BriFiConnections
    @BriFiConnections 7 місяців тому +2

    I miss games like kotor, I still play both games on my switch since star wars never really did a turn based game after and i'm personally not big on combo types of games. I like how I can press space in the middle of battle in the kotors to think about combat.

  • @zenarion
    @zenarion 8 місяців тому +2

    There really is no way to be excited for something that in its essense behaves as a money printing machine. A new piece of Star Wars media is just as inoffensive and uninteresting as a new flavor of Coca-Cola. It is something meant to be simply consumed, without needlessly being discussed or pulled apart or analyzed. It simply is a consumer product. It did not start out that way, but rather was a piece of media created by a small group of young people. George Lucas was 33 years old when A New Hope hit the cinema. The movie was made by a way smaller group of people than the conglomerate that is Lucasfilm is today. It was more of a passion project.
    I suspect this is what we long for as fans: passion projects, small in scope, big in emotion. They could rather be divisive and have something to say, rather than being rehashes and fanservice checklists. But that will not happen. It is too much of a risk to put out a movie that has the potential to say something wrong. Even the modern movies, that try very hard to be easily-chewn fun rides get people angry for all the wrong reasons, and that is just too much of a financial risk for a studio to take. Remember how fans were angry with actresses because the actresses said less-than-intelligent-lines from a script? This is how high the risks are. There is no way a Star Wars project can evoke anything but emotions of sweet familiarity with characters we already know since a long time ago. This is why we get Ahsoka the Live Action show with badly written dialogue and boring scripts: in order to see live action versions of cartoon characters we saw when we were younger. This is the design-by-focus-group way of creating culture. Or rather, mass-produced, mass-marketed, and mute culture. Disney did the same to the Marvel Movies, and lo and behold: they make money. But that is all they make. They have no soul, no message. Not saying there is no good left in Star Wars: there is, but look further from the large productions. Look at small novels or comics.

    • @torain7
      @torain7 5 місяців тому

      Couldn’t have said it better. All content Disney produces lacks substance; there is no heart, no soul, no deeper meaning to the routine garbage they produce. Nowadays, it serves mainly as an ultra-politicized money maker, and sadly too many people don’t possess the awareness to recognize what has happened…

  • @Vintian
    @Vintian 7 місяців тому +1

    To be honest the only people who should be accused of having an apathetic mentality is Disney, not us. They don’t care whether the content is good or bad, only that it makes money and sells products.

  • @bloodysimile4893
    @bloodysimile4893 8 місяців тому +1

    "The opposite of love isn't hate, its apathy."

  • @Brayguanzo
    @Brayguanzo 2 місяці тому

    It's sad.. me and my coworkers were talking about this, just this morning.. we just don't care anymore, the magic of the universe is gone. People argue about whether that's right or wrong on reddit and other places.. I don't know, I can't speak for the world.. BUT I can speak for my friends and co workers and family. These are people who I have known and talked about star wars and other geek stuff since elementary school... and everyone I know is done.. I had a couple of friends who tried to hold out, but last year was the tipping point for them.. If there is any hype nowadays, it's just to see what thing they chose to do, that no one wants to see.. and it's amazing how good they are at doing that.. I don't care so much about casting or who looks like what play what part etc.. I'm just going by my instinct.. and when I watch modern star wars the endorphins are not poppin.. =(

  • @paulsteinhauser434
    @paulsteinhauser434 8 місяців тому +8

    I feel the same. The only change is by us. Remove disney and heal the franchise. But one thing is for certain this wasnt our fault. Kennedy chose this and now its time for responsibility to enter. The bill is due for disney.

    • @paulsteinhauser434
      @paulsteinhauser434 8 місяців тому +2

      @@obiwankenobi687 clone wars s7 was already in production before disney. Rogue One Carrie fisher worked on before she passed away. Mandalorian 1 and 2 succeed because of Luke Skywalker's triumphant return. Which Kennedy was screaming in rage about.
      Everything else Mandalorian s3, book of boba fett, kenobi, ahsoka, resistance, disney trilogy, high republic, the acolyte, and. Are all feminist agenda driven trainwrecks. It shows it in the acting, writing, and production. Andor was given the apathy treatment and frankly no one cared it showed in the viewership.the
      So 1 to 13 purposeful failures. The numbers don't lie. Kennedy has lost and she did it purposefully.

  • @sumthingwikked4257
    @sumthingwikked4257 8 місяців тому +5

    Congrats... You voiced the same opinion. You did absolutely nothing.

  • @jeffjob6995
    @jeffjob6995 5 місяців тому

    You have to warm to the idea that if Star Wars didn't make huge revenue based on it being one of the original scifi movies, they would have let this whole thing die decades ago. Empire bad.. rebels good... jedis have power but for some odd reason, run away and hide far too often... The advancement of special effects (when compared to the first ever star wars movie) has really kept a stale overall theme producing big revenue. To be fair, MCU is kind of the same thing. How can hollywood print another billion dollars vs. coming up with something new/original?
    Hollywood is remaking more and more movies which makes me wonder if they have a shortage of good new ideas being pitched to them.

  • @themaskedman757
    @themaskedman757 6 місяців тому +2

    While I don’t agree I also respect y’all’s point of view. I have to ask does this mean u won’t be making any more Star Wars videos or will u just not be focusing on Disney lore. Either way plz don’t fall into making content u don’t enjoy : )

  • @austint918
    @austint918 4 місяці тому

    Amen.

  • @necatiozkan7238
    @necatiozkan7238 5 місяців тому

    I was gone when Luke threw his father's lightsaber. I knew that second, Star Wars I know was gone. From that point forward, everything apart from few things like Andor (and a few episodes in Mandolorian and that Anakin episode in Ahsoka) just straight up felt like soulless content made for a quick cashgrab. There was no soul in many of the content that Disney made for Star Wars. After Last Jedi, I even told myself EU is still the canon and what Disney does is a bad fanfiction and I still think like that apart from the things that I loved.

  • @Wondrous_U
    @Wondrous_U 8 місяців тому +3

    I can hear Kreia on my head now.

  • @ledzeppelinfan1001
    @ledzeppelinfan1001 6 місяців тому +1

    Who is we?

  • @Nakeethus_Hunter
    @Nakeethus_Hunter 3 дні тому

    To quote Dewey from Malcolm in the Middle... I expect nothing, and Im still let down

  • @willpower8289
    @willpower8289 4 місяці тому +2

    I hate being in the minority that genuinely still loves Star Wars despite its faults. Yeah Book of Boba Fett could’ve been better. Yes Grogu shouldn’t have been in Mandalorian season 3 and should’ve stayed with Luke. And yes the sequel trilogy could’ve been a lot better. But despite it all I still love it. Does that make me a shill? Maybe. Does it mean I’m a mindless sheep going towards the slaughter? Probably. But I don’t care about that because despite the faults I still care and love Star Wars. I know liking anything is difficult for most people these days because all the big channels with thousands of followers tell you you should hate something but maybe ignore them for once and just let yourself enjoy something on your own terms. It works out great for me.

  • @ayiza8511
    @ayiza8511 Місяць тому

    I used to read every Star Wars comic and watch every movie. After watching the new trilogy I fell out now am completely apathetic. I expect them to be bad I expect it to disappoint me so I no longer watch

  • @CandyChaos7
    @CandyChaos7 7 місяців тому

    🤖Statement: *Apathy... Is... Death...*

  • @averagechadlegionary5824
    @averagechadlegionary5824 3 місяці тому

    "Apathy is death."

  • @PrimevalDemon
    @PrimevalDemon 8 місяців тому

    If apathy the dish then consider my appetite endless for that I wish and want subsist.

  • @methos4866
    @methos4866 8 місяців тому +6

    I agree on the whole apathy thing since that's how i feel about current Star Wars stuff. Though i will say that anyone who uses wokeness unironically nowadays just loses credibility imo. Woke is a word that has lost its meaning due to idiots using it for anything they don't like.

    • @TheScoundresCantina
      @TheScoundresCantina  7 місяців тому +6

      Wokeness entails a very specific form of pushing political crap where it's meant to be escapism. On the other hand I would prefer star wars to generally not having any real world politics in it no matter the side.

    • @methos4866
      @methos4866 6 місяців тому +5

      @@TheScoundresCantina You gotta define what you mean by political crap because you're just being vague here. Are we talking actual galactic politics like we've seen in The Clone Wars and Andor? Or are we talking about something nebulous that you simply call political?

    • @pupulauls
      @pupulauls 6 місяців тому +4

      @@TheScoundresCantinaStar Wars with no real world politics? Are you actually joking right now? The OT and PT has more real world politics than the ST

    • @pupulauls
      @pupulauls 6 місяців тому +4

      @@methos4866Yeah whenever I see someone say they don’t like Star Wars when it’s political I know they don’t look at anything in the series besides cool lightsaber fights and spaceships. Andor is probably the most “”””woke”””” Star Wars project Disney has put out and it’s not because it has women or lesbians in it

    • @JackThomas-of3kd
      @JackThomas-of3kd 4 місяці тому +3

      @@methos4866they can’t define anything. They don’t even know what they are talking about. They can’t even tell you what “woke” is. It’s a very simple thing to understand. Star Wars has always been political and now Star Wars has some political elements they don’t like and it triggers them

  • @piratekingthaszar7912
    @piratekingthaszar7912 29 днів тому

    "Statement: apathyyy is death"

  • @Banooner
    @Banooner 8 місяців тому

    Well said.

  • @articusramos808
    @articusramos808 8 місяців тому +3

    -worse then death. At least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects.

  • @Aikurisu
    @Aikurisu 8 місяців тому +3

    Yup. I know I don't care for Disney Star Wars anymore. I mean, I'll probably watch Andor's S2, but that's it.
    I walked into several stores today and while I had a passing interest in some Star Wars merch I didn't buy anything. The magic is gone, no thanks to Kennedyfilm.

  • @richardsalas2845
    @richardsalas2845 4 місяці тому

    Yes, I despise what Disney has done to this beloved franchise. But there's a few I like. Rebels, bad batch Mando was cool for like the first season. Other than that ROTJ is the true ending of Skywalker

  • @TheSerpent21
    @TheSerpent21 4 місяці тому

    I firmly believe that it all went to shit when Lucas sold out to Disney and Kennedy took over fully. All downhill from therr with very few sparse good spots like you said.

  • @Aphylyon
    @Aphylyon 5 місяців тому

    Womp womp

  • @IvanKinkle
    @IvanKinkle 8 місяців тому +9

    I mean, I genuinely enjoy “The Mandalorian” despite some issues. And “Ahsoka” was actually good, I honestly don’t understand the hate it’s getting. Sure, it wasn’t perfect, but the first seasons never are, I thought it was a solid first run.

  • @lionserra9161
    @lionserra9161 8 місяців тому +2

    For me, Star Wars has 2 "versions": The good one, and the Disney one. I reject anything coming from this piece of shit of a company and live happy with the rest x)

    • @gaw6352
      @gaw6352 7 місяців тому

      Go and actually read the old canon instead of just watching lore videos then

    • @lionserra9161
      @lionserra9161 7 місяців тому +1

      @@gaw6352 ?? Why tf read? I mean the movies

  • @ahsokatanofanboy8292
    @ahsokatanofanboy8292 8 місяців тому +1

    Ahsoka >>>>andor

  • @Unchainedmaple888
    @Unchainedmaple888 8 місяців тому +2

    Can George Lucas just buy back Star Wars already? I'm so tired boss

  • @manz7860
    @manz7860 7 місяців тому +1

    I just want to see luke skywalker get his shine as Master Luke.
    Disney: heres sabine!
    Yeah im out lol. Sad to think even star wars battlefront 2 and s2 ending of mando was the closest we'll get to prime luke in the disney era

  • @Spideygaming2987
    @Spideygaming2987 8 місяців тому +2

    You guys star wars theory generation tech and others are the only reason why I'm still into star wars to that I say thank you for your ability to keep me and others interested❤❤❤❤

  • @pupulauls
    @pupulauls 6 місяців тому +7

    use of the word woke: argument obliterated

  • @stendhoul656
    @stendhoul656 5 місяців тому

    If you don't care then why are you still uploading Ahsoka clips?

  • @cardonamj55
    @cardonamj55 8 місяців тому +3

    Yall are so salty for what.. yeah the latest trilogy is shit but the shows have been good, sometimes great star wars content

    • @TheScoundresCantina
      @TheScoundresCantina  8 місяців тому +8

      It's been good for diluting star wars that's for sure. Thanks to the 10 tv-shows they've released in less then 3 years no wonder no one cares about star wars anymore. Less is more and it shows.

    • @Azact
      @Azact 8 місяців тому +2

      The shows have been pretty bad, and the more they have released the shittier it has become. Star wars was better when it wasnt oversaturated with content, it made it more magical and the movies were actually good. I would rather have a couple good movies than many bad shows and movies

  • @wickdaline8668
    @wickdaline8668 8 місяців тому +4

    I'm starting to hate the three words "Apathy is death." In a decade or two from now, this negativity for modern SW will seem like a bad dream to us all, and we'll look back on it, saying maybe it wasn't all that terrible as we remember. Since they'll be people who've grown up with the new movies and shows by then, and there will be more people resonating with the content we have today by then as well since its the content that got them into SW. The same way the prequel era has retroactively gained its resurgence in positivity today since its the content prequelites grew up with.

    • @TheScoundresCantina
      @TheScoundresCantina  8 місяців тому +6

      Doubt it. Disney hasn't just screwed the stories and the universe and the canon, but they've done the worst thing of all, even worse then pushing their political crap. They turned Star Wars into the MCU where there is too much star wars which completely diluted anything and everything that used to be special about it. The more there is of something, the less it's worth which is the main reason why all franchises that decided to milk their existence into oblivion are getting just that, irrelevance and apathy. It's not only with Star Wars, it's with every single thing that has been turned into a franchise which spins offs and neverending crap. The Original 6 were just that, 12 amazing hours of Star Wars for 40 years. Disney Star Wars has been more then 40+ hours in a single year.

    • @wickdaline8668
      @wickdaline8668 8 місяців тому +5

      @TheScoundrelsCantina The neutralist in me refuses to believe in the political crap and everything else Disney SW is scrutinized for. There really isn't any dishonor splitting art from artists, whether it'd be George Lucas or Kathleen Kennedy bts. Maybe the MCU comparisons could be more fairer critiques to me than the politics. We're just lucky SW won't be getting a hard reboot of the OG trilogy either as Matthew Vaughn recently voiced to people... so far and hopefully not ever! I'd rather live with the hands we're dealt in Disney's canon between the original 6 and the sequels than see a hard reboot for SW. That would break me a lot more than anything Disney has done to damage the brand for a good chunk of the fan base.

    • @AndrewJauregui-ku7pr
      @AndrewJauregui-ku7pr 8 місяців тому

      @@TheScoundresCantina can you make Sabine vs Shin episode 4 Fight Scene?

    • @TheScoundresCantina
      @TheScoundresCantina  8 місяців тому +1

      @@AndrewJauregui-ku7pr sorry but youtube emonetized our channel because of the scenes from ahsoka

    • @AndrewJauregui-ku7pr
      @AndrewJauregui-ku7pr 8 місяців тому

      @@TheScoundresCantina I understand. Thanks anyway.

  • @quinnlynne
    @quinnlynne 8 місяців тому +6

    I think it's fair to claim apathy with an IP and not liking the direction. However, I think it's more the fact that Star Wars doesn't bother to grow up and give more than children entertainment, aside from Andor and one off scenes. You're looking for a boogie man and claiming "groomer" and "woke", ignoring that you're a mouth piece for words that somebody else made up in a culture war fabricated as soon as Finn came on screen in the Force Awakens trailer. But the reality is, you're looking for entertainment that's more engaging than smashing action figures together, Star Wars has always been for everybody and for all ages but that doesn't mean that should be the only thing you consume. It's an old friend you come back to. There's good stories in the new disney canon and EU, like either thrawn trilogies, andor, and post ROTJ novels in the EU. Star Wars is better as a headcanon for most where you pick and choose what you enioy, you'll always have your EU stories regardless of how much it's pretended that "Evil Woke Disney" will steal away your EU. Corps don't care about either side and trying to attribute wokeness and "grooming" to them is like when the LGBT people you claim are ruining hollywood, do the same thing and frame them as allies. It's a big horseshoe that becomes a mirror, just like what you like it's not hard.

    • @gaw6352
      @gaw6352 7 місяців тому +1

      I don't know why people don't want more andor content. I'd be happy if every new show was as clever as andor

    • @a_bionicle6635
      @a_bionicle6635 7 місяців тому +2

      Finally, someone with sense.

  • @JackThomas-of3kd
    @JackThomas-of3kd 4 місяці тому

    “Groomers at Disney” 😂 seems like your accusation is more of a confession. I love seeing this dying channel ❤