What I admire even more than the tactical opportunities laid out here is the follow-up-guard-and-backstep protecting after the mezzano itself. Simply brilliant.
Good stuff! This strike is known as a Ji 擊 with the chinese straight sword. This strike is also used to strike at the hands sometimes while moving out of measure of an incoming strike, but most chinese jian are single handed which means that the sword arm is vulnerable to attack if you are close and you have to be very careful about not striking heavy targets because the cutting mechanics are not as strong as with front edge cuts
I'd just add that it's not just because the cutting doesn't work out as strong, but also because you put a lot of strain on your wrist hitting heavy targets with the false edge like that (not good for body longevity).
You are welcome. Also from the last parry as a German practitioner you can either go Fendente, Zwerchau or Mezzano, a very good selection of blows to get all the possible targets.
Watched this ahead of club practice, and during sparring i hit the reverso atleast once every match, and in one I even hit 3 times with it. Nice video 👍
Very nice indeed, we usually do the first one with the footwork of the Krumphau (foot pointing outside). The background is incredible! Autumm colors are awesome! Keep up the good work.
Thanks for making these videos as someone who isn't hear any hema clubs that teach fiore it's good to at least try to learn it is there any way you could do another fiore footwork video?
Indeed. But admittedly if you get a hand with a Iron bar is more than enough considering my actual experience in this regards XD That said, we should always strive to properly hit with the edge.
@@FedericoMalagutti Lost a match because of bad edge alignment, in two hits. Super traumatized now :D This one: ua-cam.com/video/TZ0qL178E7M/v-deo.html
Hey Federico. Thanks for the videos. I'm more of a rapier practitioner but have been delving a little into longsword. The local group near me is STAUNCHLY Lichtenauer but I've read (a little) and prefer Vadi and Fiore (I prefer Vadi more). I noticed you're using a "thumb grip" like the German practitioners. I didn't see any references to that grip in the Italian manuals but I may have not gotten to it or missed it. Is that you following the manuscripts or are you doing it out of practicality and/or "poetic license"? Or maybe even out of cross training? Mille grazie
I don’t see anymore the way of holding the sword as a characteristic of a style, to land some cuts (such as this mezzano) it’s natural to do it if you want to do it properly.
@@FedericoMalagutti I agree. It's much more comfortable, and out of national pride (I'm Italian American) I HATE giving the Germans that kind of credit! 🤣 But the German texts actually mention it. I haven't seen it in the Italian texts. It might be natural to do it or instinctive but I'm asking if the Italian manuals actually address it.
Thanks! I was watching with the sound low and the last cut looked for a moment like crossed arms - but I can see the first ones are false edge - thanks !
Well, I would need to see you. With the years, I evolved it more and now most of my students are able to land it in various cases. But many things may vary the technique, so it may happen to find it hard to land. My advice is to keep it simple at the beginning, don't go for parry-riposte with it, just land it plain and simple from frontale or breve... Then you can try to make it wider or part of more complex techniques.
@@FedericoMalagutti Fede! I showed the reverso mezzano to my instructor and he pointed out something! It's done with crossed hands. Suddenly, all the power and speed of the technique is unlocked. I realize the crossed hands part may sound obvious but in trying to do it immediately from posta di donna, I wasn't allowing my hands to cross properly. I was almost waving my sword instead of striking. Thank you for showing me this technique. With a little help, I can put it into practice now. 😊
I teach privately here in my valley, people traveled here from France, Germany and even Canada to train here. It is possible to book a lesson by getting in touch with me on FB or Instagram. In terms of video courses, by now I’ve non anything in project, but for sure it may be something I’ll add in the future.
In the last execution while talking about parry the feint I said “toward the right” but of course it was “toward the left” ghgh ;-)
Please do one on slashing combos for sparing
Like an emphasises on slashes not trust
What I admire even more than the tactical opportunities laid out here is the follow-up-guard-and-backstep protecting after the mezzano itself. Simply brilliant.
Thanks ^_^
Fantastic video. My favorite is the second technique shown with the fainted thrust. I look forward to showing my club mates this next week!
Nice! I wish you good training ^^
Look like good uses to me! That background is simply stunning, and part of why Autumn is clearly the best season ;)
Good stuff! This strike is known as a Ji 擊 with the chinese straight sword. This strike is also used to strike at the hands sometimes while moving out of measure of an incoming strike, but most chinese jian are single handed which means that the sword arm is vulnerable to attack if you are close and you have to be very careful about not striking heavy targets because the cutting mechanics are not as strong as with front edge cuts
Agreed, false dge strikes need to cut targets which can easily damaged, such as hands, forearms or the neck ;-)
I'd just add that it's not just because the cutting doesn't work out as strong, but also because you put a lot of strain on your wrist hitting heavy targets with the false edge like that (not good for body longevity).
Fiore is the awesome. I like the way you interpret his manual and I've done well so far using your tips.
Nice! Happy to read this!
My Liechtenauer brain is shorting out rn. Thanks for showing me something I've never experienced before!
You are welcome. Also from the last parry as a German practitioner you can either go Fendente, Zwerchau or Mezzano, a very good selection of blows to get all the possible targets.
Watched this ahead of club practice, and during sparring i hit the reverso atleast once every match, and in one I even hit 3 times with it. Nice video 👍
I’m happy it gave you some ideas to try out ;-)
Very sneaky risposta in the last tecnique! Cool :)
Thank you so much for making this!
You are welcome Dwain!
Thank you.
Good to see other people coming to the same kinds of conclusions as I have regarding the roverso mezzano.
Very nice indeed, we usually do the first one with the footwork of the Krumphau (foot pointing outside).
The background is incredible! Autumm colors are awesome!
Keep up the good work.
I love the videos! That move looks like it would strain my elbow
It’s easier than what it looks. ^_^
Salut,
La vidéo est super limpide et est très instructive.
Merci et bonne continuation.
Grazie ;-)
Bella l'azione di 3:12 :)
Might be fun to make a video applying this concept to sword and buckler or polearm or rapier and dagger to hand snipe with the false edge.
It's harder but doable, generally speaking sottani are better with the one handed swords. I'll think about something anyway!
Que Viva!
Elegant violence!💚
Thanks :)
Thanks for making these videos as someone who isn't hear any hema clubs that teach fiore it's good to at least try to learn it is there any way you could do another fiore footwork video?
Of course, I'll do it in the months to come ;-)
👍
Good video, but it's hard to follow when it have some beautiful landscape
This seems to be extra hard to keep edge alligment though. Will have to practise it a lot!
Indeed. But admittedly if you get a hand with a Iron bar is more than enough considering my actual experience in this regards XD
That said, we should always strive to properly hit with the edge.
@@FedericoMalagutti Lost a match because of bad edge alignment, in two hits. Super traumatized now :D
This one:
ua-cam.com/video/TZ0qL178E7M/v-deo.html
@@BernasLL now you have double the motivation to work on the aspect ;-)
@@FedericoMalagutti Yesss. So many things to work on still! Such a deep sport, love it.
Hey Federico. Thanks for the videos. I'm more of a rapier practitioner but have been delving a little into longsword. The local group near me is STAUNCHLY Lichtenauer but I've read (a little) and prefer Vadi and Fiore (I prefer Vadi more). I noticed you're using a "thumb grip" like the German practitioners. I didn't see any references to that grip in the Italian manuals but I may have not gotten to it or missed it. Is that you following the manuscripts or are you doing it out of practicality and/or "poetic license"? Or maybe even out of cross training? Mille grazie
I don’t see anymore the way of holding the sword as a characteristic of a style, to land some cuts (such as this mezzano) it’s natural to do it if you want to do it properly.
@@FedericoMalagutti I agree. It's much more comfortable, and out of national pride (I'm Italian American) I HATE giving the Germans that kind of credit! 🤣 But the German texts actually mention it. I haven't seen it in the Italian texts. It might be natural to do it or instinctive but I'm asking if the Italian manuals actually address it.
@@Quillons1 medieval Italian manuals never address this or any other particular way of holding the sword, if by exception of doing it “manly”
Subed👌🤟
A question - these are true edge cuts, yes? I thought the system advocated for false edge cuts on a roverso?
Uhm, no it’s false edge. I say in in the video.
Thanks! I was watching with the sound low and the last cut looked for a moment like crossed arms - but I can see the first ones are false edge - thanks !
I keep trying to do this reverso mezzano but it always feels slow and awkward.
Well, I would need to see you. With the years, I evolved it more and now most of my students are able to land it in various cases. But many things may vary the technique, so it may happen to find it hard to land. My advice is to keep it simple at the beginning, don't go for parry-riposte with it, just land it plain and simple from frontale or breve... Then you can try to make it wider or part of more complex techniques.
@@FedericoMalagutti Fede! I showed the reverso mezzano to my instructor and he pointed out something! It's done with crossed hands. Suddenly, all the power and speed of the technique is unlocked. I realize the crossed hands part may sound obvious but in trying to do it immediately from posta di donna, I wasn't allowing my hands to cross properly. I was almost waving my sword instead of striking. Thank you for showing me this technique. With a little help, I can put it into practice now. 😊
Quanto vorrei fare due scambi non ne hai idea 😂
do you offer also some courses :-)?
I teach privately here in my valley, people traveled here from France, Germany and even Canada to train here. It is possible to book a lesson by getting in touch with me on FB or Instagram.
In terms of video courses, by now I’ve non anything in project, but for sure it may be something I’ll add in the future.