The Balrog was one of the many movie monsters that scared me when I was a kid. Now, I think of it as one of the most badass creature designs ever brought to cinema.
I think there was also a part in the books where Morgoth was about to be devoured by Ungoliant that he cried out a call to his Balrogs which awakened them from the depths. The Balorgs then proceeded to go then to Morgoths aid, the thing is that the Balrogs where on the northern regions of middle earth while he and Ungoliant where located at Valinor. This either directly states or at the very least implies that they had to have wings or some form of teleportation to even get to their masters aid, not just in time but there in the first place. I have a hard time imagining how a dozen Balorgs either swim through the sea or sit patientianly, while being on fire, on a boat and getting shipped over the seas.
Here is the paragraph you are looking for: But Ungoliant had grown great, and he less by the power that had gone out of him; and she rose against him, and her cloud closed about him, and she enmeshed him in a web of clinging thongs to strangle him. Then Morgoth sent forth a terrible cry, that echoed in the mountains. Therefore that region was called Lammoth; for the echoes of his voice dwelt there ever after, so that any who cried aloud in that land awoke them, and all the waste between the hills and the sea was filled with a clamour as of voices in anguish. The cry of Morgoth in that hour was the greatest and most dreadful that was ever heard in the northern world; the mountains shook, and the earth trembled, and rocks were riven asunder. Deep in forgotten places that cry was heard. Far beneath the rained halls of Angband, in vaults to which the Valar in the haste of their assault had not descended, Balrogs lurked still, awaiting ever the return of their Lord; and now swiftly they arose, and passing over Hithlum they came to Lammoth as a tempest of fire. With their whips of flame they smote asunder the webs of Ungoliant, and she quailed, and turned to flight, belching black vapours to cover her; and fleeing from the north she went down into Beleriand, and dwelt beneath Ered Gorgoroth, in that dark valley that was after called Nan Dungortheb, the Valley of Dreadful Death, because of the horror that she bred there. For other foul creatures of spider form had dwelt there since the days of the delving of Angband, and she mated with them, and devoured them; and even after Ungoliant herself departed, and went whither she would into the forgotten south of the world, her offspring abode there and wove their hideous webs. Of the fate of Ungoliant no tale tells. Yet some have said that she ended long ago, when in her uttermost famine she devoured herself at last.
Morgoth and Ungoliant were not in Valinor during this scene. They were on the western shore of Beleriand. Still, their quick arrival does suggest that they had some ability to fly. Anyway, even though the first sentence was a simile, the second sentence in FOTR is not. It clearly states that Durin's Bane had wings.
Tolkien is the greatest modern fantasy writer to have ever lived his incredible world building developed over decades of writing and inspiration taken from serving in the front lines of ww1 have created a masterpiece. Note how I say modern as it's arguable based of the works of homer and the epic of Gilgamesh which might match however Tolkien remains at least for me the greatest writer of fiction of all time
Tolkien's stories are mostly landscape descriptions. The rest is standard fairytail. There is no deeper plot, nothing to think about. It's straightforward.
If I remember correctly, in The Two Towers Gandalf mentions that he followed the Balrog into the abyss in order to prevent the creature of using his wings to fly up and attack the Fellowship again. So if what I recall is correct, the wings are not figurative and are functional.
Gimli also thought the creature that flew over the Fellowship on the river was the Balrog. He was incorrect, but it hints that the Balrog probably could fly.
The rest of the balrogs all died from falling down cliffs They also didn't change the wars much like the first dragon, and then the dragons who could fly, really securing victories.
kirby march Barcena They are after Durins Bane died that is the name of the Balrog that Gandalf fights. The majority of the Balrog died in the first age.
You know there's a beast even beyond the Balrogs in the army of Morgoth. A dragon so large that it crushed 3 large mountains when it fell and it was felt throughout the continent and destroyed mutiple cities including the great elven and dwarf cities. He was named *Ancalgon the Black* .
Ditto came to say the same. "Durin's Bane" is a label applied to a nameless terror, probably by the Dwarves, Durin's people.. It's not like it had a name like "Ralph" or something. And DUrin of course is not part of a name, it was a Dwarf. He was one of their great kings. And so "Durin's Bane" means "The creature who was the death of Durin."
The Balrog video is one I have been waiting on for some time, and in Tolkien's name am I happy that it's here! Since you plan to do more, do you think you could maybe give an explanation of Gandalf and Bane's fight after the fall? It's never shown in the movies but it's one of the most amazing things Gandalf does and deserves a video I think :D
LotR is the best movie trilogy of all time. I just rewatched the extended editions 2 weeks ago but I guess I'll have to watch them again for I am a fat nerd after all...
It was mentioned in one of Peter Jackson’s books about LOTR, Durins Bane did have functional wings, but years sleeping underground left the muscles atrophied meaning he couldn’t fly.
My theory is that balrogs do have functional wings, but the one in Moria was underground for so long it's wings got weak and couldn't lift it's body anymore.
I love your videos and would love to see you cover Lord of the Rings more. Some suggestions of mine: -Tom Bombadil -the Watcher in the Water -Dragons (as a whole, and what happened to them) -Fell-Beasts -Different species of orc, Uruk-Kai, etc, how they came to be
7:53 just one of the coolest movie scenes of my lifetime! Still now even, but most certainly back when this first was in theaters. Gandalf was officially a badass after this one too
07:43 is one of the best scenes of the entire trilogy. This soundtrack is fantastic!!! The sensation of space, darkness and the ancient days that it brings is stunning
The Balrog scared the living shit out of me when I first saw LOTR when I was a kid. Now, I honestly believe that The Balrog id one of the most badass creatures ever brought to film.
I really enjoy your presentation of this, I'm going to have to watch the rest of your Lord of the Rings stuff. There a chance you could do a creatures explained for Smaug or Glaurung (the first dragon)?
The problem with the Balrogs having functional wings is that at least two of them failed to extricate themselves from situations that would lead to their demise, one of them directly.
Id like to see a extension to the lotr, with all these epic monsters actually brought to life more, but with the hobbits not living of the the lotr at all I guess it maybe better to leave it to imagination.. still...would be very epic to see more of this world.
I really love your work being an Aussie and all 😉 but would love if you would go into more depth with the Tolkien characters as there is so much detail for nearly every character!
I swear, this is why I subbed. You are quality my friend You are amazing! Along side with anybody else that reads this! :) Hope everyone has a good day and thanks for the video 🤘🏽😌
Having not read the books at the time, coupled with being a Warhammer player with a leaning towards the Chaos armies and its demons... the appearance of the Balrog in Moria was just fantastic. I gigantic smoldering monster of titanic strength that drove an army before it and dragged the most powerful member of the Fellowship into the abyss before it was gone.
You know what I'd love to see? A movie about the Rise and Fall of Gondolin. If I remember right, balrogs were part of the sacking, and there was an incredible battle between an Elf named Glorfindel (not sure if it's the same one that ended up in Rivendell with Elrond later on or not) and one of the Balrogs when the fleeing Elves were trying to escape by the mountain paths. It would be epic to see that fight on the big screen.
They were all shape shifters, including Sauron and Melkor who only later got stuck in their evil forms. So Balrogs may have been able to materialize wings
When you read the books you can understand that all dark things on Middle Earth were just corrupted forms by Melkor originally created by Eru Iluvatar. Wonderful video. This elf approves and subscribes. 🌿✨
When I read the novels, after I saw the film's, I was so disappointed that they never stated in the film's that Balrogs were known as elvens bane. Always thought it was savage how they're recgonized as one of the few beings higher up than elven folk.
Gandalf and the Balrog fighting kinda reminds me of the fight that is supposed to take place during Ragnarok in the Norse religion between Odin and Surtur, and especially because Lord Of The Rings has some Norse Pagan inspiration in it. Balrogs are incredible awesome monsters, and exploring there lore is amazing.
When I read the Hobbit and trilogy for the first time in the 70s, losing Gandalf to the Balrog was the single most distressing moment. I went into shock. I love the scene where he’s returned. But the shock still reverberates.
The Balrog was one of the many movie monsters that scared me when I was a kid. Now, I think of it as one of the most badass creature designs ever brought to cinema.
The Balrog scene is probably the most iconic, memorable scene I’ve ever seen in theaters.
Any scene that tries to surpass it can be disputed with "you shall not pass"
Fly you fools lol
Ian Mckellen NAILED that scene
I know everyone was cheering
“You fell...”
“Through fire. And water.”
Love your videos bro
I think there was also a part in the books where Morgoth was about to be devoured by Ungoliant that he cried out a call to his Balrogs which awakened them from the depths.
The Balorgs then proceeded to go then to Morgoths aid, the thing is that the Balrogs where on the northern regions of middle earth while he and Ungoliant where located at Valinor.
This either directly states or at the very least implies that they had to have wings or some form of teleportation to even get to their masters aid, not just in time but there in the first place.
I have a hard time imagining how a dozen Balorgs either swim through the sea or sit patientianly, while being on fire, on a boat and getting shipped over the seas.
Great point Invictus!
Invictus I think they can fly but only for a short amount of time and their wings are mostly used to increase their jumping potentials.
Here is the paragraph you are looking for:
But Ungoliant had grown great, and he less by the power that had gone out of him; and she rose against him, and her cloud closed about him, and she enmeshed him in a web of clinging thongs to strangle him. Then Morgoth sent forth a terrible cry, that echoed in the mountains. Therefore that region was called Lammoth; for the echoes of his voice dwelt there ever after, so that any who cried aloud in that land awoke them, and all the waste between the hills and the sea was filled with a clamour as of voices in anguish. The cry of Morgoth in that hour was the greatest and most dreadful that was ever heard in the northern world; the mountains shook, and the earth trembled, and rocks were riven asunder. Deep in forgotten places that cry was heard. Far beneath the rained halls of Angband, in vaults to which the Valar in the haste of their assault had not descended, Balrogs lurked still, awaiting ever the return of their Lord; and now swiftly they arose, and passing over Hithlum they came to Lammoth as a tempest of fire. With their whips of flame they smote asunder the webs of Ungoliant, and she quailed, and turned to flight, belching black vapours to cover her; and fleeing from the north she went down into Beleriand, and dwelt beneath Ered Gorgoroth, in that dark valley that was after called Nan Dungortheb, the Valley of Dreadful Death, because of the horror that she bred there. For other foul creatures of spider form had dwelt there since the days of the delving of Angband, and she mated with them, and devoured them; and even after Ungoliant herself departed, and went whither she would into the forgotten south of the world, her offspring abode there and wove their hideous webs. Of the fate of Ungoliant no tale tells. Yet some have said that she ended long ago, when in her uttermost famine she devoured herself at last.
Morgoth and Ungoliant were not in Valinor during this scene. They were on the western shore of Beleriand. Still, their quick arrival does suggest that they had some ability to fly. Anyway, even though the first sentence was a simile, the second sentence in FOTR is not. It clearly states that Durin's Bane had wings.
@@shawnn7502 Tolkien's Bestiary shows that the Balrogs do indeed have wings.
Tolkien is the greatest modern fantasy writer to have ever lived his incredible world building developed over decades of writing and inspiration taken from serving in the front lines of ww1 have created a masterpiece.
Note how I say modern as it's arguable based of the works of homer and the epic of Gilgamesh which might match however Tolkien remains at least for me the greatest writer of fiction of all time
Cameron Gooch Preach it, brother!
Tolkien is the fundament for modern fantasy but he isn't the greatest. That's ridiculous. Either you haven't read a lot or your judgement is weird.
Indeed Frank Herbert is good to though
Yaldabaoth It's not ridiculous at all. Not sure why you would even say that
Tolkien's stories are mostly landscape descriptions. The rest is standard fairytail. There is no deeper plot, nothing to think about. It's straightforward.
If I remember correctly, in The Two Towers Gandalf mentions that he followed the Balrog into the abyss in order to prevent the creature of using his wings to fly up and attack the Fellowship again. So if what I recall is correct, the wings are not figurative and are functional.
Gimli also thought the creature that flew over the Fellowship on the river was the Balrog. He was incorrect, but it hints that the Balrog probably could fly.
@@vincentcyr3719 nazgul?
Go and read the original book
The rest of the balrogs all died from falling down cliffs
They also didn't change the wars much like the first dragon, and then the dragons who could fly, really securing victories.
We could have seen more of the Balrogs
kirby march Barcena cgi is expensive.
clxwncrxwn They could have asked for more budget.
would have liked to see the non-elemental versions. Would be pretty creepy too
Lucien Clubb I guess the Balrog's extinct them.
kirby march Barcena They are after Durins Bane died that is the name of the Balrog that Gandalf fights. The majority of the Balrog died in the first age.
You know there's a beast even beyond the Balrogs in the army of Morgoth.
A dragon so large that it crushed 3 large mountains when it fell and it was felt throughout the continent and destroyed mutiple cities including the great elven and dwarf cities.
He was named *Ancalgon the Black* .
Thor's Hammer yesssssss !
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He is one of the most powerful dragons in fiction.
Thor's Hammer indeed man ..my favorite I hope they make a movie about the simirallion
Thor's Hammer I'd like to see Morgoth an Sauron in action laying waste to middle earth
Thor's Hammer
Ummm... so what felled it?
You should do the Nazgul
yep they are on the to do list :)
Awesome yes!
WWII started, when Nazghuls invaded Poland **ba dum tss**
“You shall not pass!” Perhaps one of the greatest scenes ever. And omg as a kid how upset I was when I thought grandpa Gandalf was dead 😭
“durin’s bane” was not a name but a title. It was the “bane” (enemy/weakness/threat) of Durin, the king of the dwarves in Moria.
Came here to comment this. Good catch.
Ditto came to say the same. "Durin's Bane" is a label applied to a nameless terror, probably by the Dwarves, Durin's people.. It's not like it had a name like "Ralph" or something. And DUrin of course is not part of a name, it was a Dwarf. He was one of their great kings. And so "Durin's Bane" means "The creature who was the death of Durin."
I love seeing your Channel grow with each Video
Thanks buddy!
Could you cover the Headless Horseman from Sleepy Hollow?
Sure! adding him to the list now :)
The Balrog video is one I have been waiting on for some time, and in Tolkien's name am I happy that it's here!
Since you plan to do more, do you think you could maybe give an explanation of Gandalf and Bane's fight after the fall? It's never shown in the movies but it's one of the most amazing things Gandalf does and deserves a video I think :D
yes! I plan on doing a video on gandalf down the track also :)
Gandalf really convinced the party to go on so he can take on the boss and get all the XP. Then shows up again leveled up lol
Good thing the production team took over the concept of the balrogs. They look so badass
The best deviation from source material by a film adaptation to date!.
And referring to Durin's Bane as simply Bane is genius, frankly lol
Love your vid's man, keep up the awesome work.
LotR is the best movie trilogy of all time. I just rewatched the extended editions 2 weeks ago but I guess I'll have to watch them again for I am a fat nerd after all...
Justin A LotR is better in my opinion
It's always a pleasure to wake up and see you posted a video about a series. I always learn something new keep up the great work
I think the balrog in shadow of war is the coolest creature in any video game
In my opinion dragons too because they can fly. Also in Shadow of Mordor they are very strong creatures
@@fawkes9370 but balrogs can fly on dragons I think they even did at one point of the story
Not in the game I mean the lotr storyline
yea that balrog was cool. But dunes bane is still my fave!
It was mentioned in one of Peter Jackson’s books about LOTR, Durins Bane did have functional wings, but years sleeping underground left the muscles atrophied meaning he couldn’t fly.
Congrats on 200k subs. Love the videos. Lotr videos make me nerd out
Awesome video Niyat!
My theory is that balrogs do have functional wings, but the one in Moria was underground for so long it's wings got weak and couldn't lift it's body anymore.
So good, wish they were a wee bit longer!! Thank you Niyat!
I think I've binged this entire channel over the last couple weeks. Feel like now is definitely the time to just subscribe lol
Lord of the Rings in my Humble Opinion is the Greatest Fantasy Series Ever, Love it! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I agree 100%!
🙂👍
Yes it is the best fantasy series ever but the best tv series is GoT :D
It is the father of all medival fantasies we have today.
@@ralfdwerlkotte9418 I'd say Breaking Bad is a better tv show than game of thrones
Great video as always. I look forward to the next one.
Yet again, great video. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.
No worries mate!
"This is a foe beyond any of you.. Run!" still send chills up my spine.
Love this lord of the rings stuff and love your channel!
God dammit every time you post a video about creatures of certain film. I have to re-watch it lol
The Nazgûl always terrified me as a kid. I'd love to see you cover them.
Gandalf fighting the balrog. One of the greatest side quest in medieval fanstasy.
Balrog is more like a skill check main quest boss
I love your videos and would love to see you cover Lord of the Rings more. Some suggestions of mine:
-Tom Bombadil
-the Watcher in the Water
-Dragons (as a whole, and what happened to them)
-Fell-Beasts
-Different species of orc, Uruk-Kai, etc, how they came to be
Yes have been waiting a very long time for this
I loved the look of absolute terror on Legolas’s face when Gandalf told them what it was.
Brilliant video dude i was always curious about the Balrogs and their origins, thanks
7:53 just one of the coolest movie scenes of my lifetime! Still now even, but most certainly back when this first was in theaters. Gandalf was officially a badass after this one too
More of the Lord of the Rings would be awesome. Love your channel, keep up the great work 👍
Thanks buddy! and will do :)
07:43 is one of the best scenes of the entire trilogy. This soundtrack is fantastic!!! The sensation of space, darkness and the ancient days that it brings is stunning
The Street Fighter boxer?
Best part of the Fellowship if you ask me especially Gandalf’s iconic: “YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!” line
7:19 I remember funny translation for this movie, when Gendalf said " I'll be back"!!..😁
Once again amazing video good job dude
I love that balrog roar. Like the sound of an intense fire 🔥. It was awesome!
Balrog vs Smaug would be epic
YES!! More Lord of The Rings videos please. Good video btw
The Balrog scared the living shit out of me when I first saw LOTR when I was a kid. Now, I honestly believe that The Balrog id one of the most badass creatures ever brought to film.
Lord of the Rings are easily the best fantasy movies ever made oh btw are Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, or Freddy Krueger on the list?
yes it is the best! and yes they are on the list :)
FilmComicsExplained yay
And the books as well.
Nice explanation. Thank you
I think Sauron disliked the video
“A wizard is never late, Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.”
That shot of the two freaking, lightning up the cave on that far away shop
Awesome vid!
I always get a chill when Gandalf walks out of the light.
Excellent! You rock dude...and just got a new subscriber!
another great video as always more power
Keep up the great work on your vids! A little late but grats on over 200k subs.
I really enjoy your presentation of this, I'm going to have to watch the rest of your Lord of the Rings stuff.
There a chance you could do a creatures explained for Smaug or Glaurung (the first dragon)?
fly you fools
Great video, thank you!
You should cover more tolken stuff that hasn't been made to film
There are other channels that have already covered that kind of thing in depth
lol One my favorite moments in LotR: TFotR
This is why i subscribed. Please look at the creatures of Mordor too, like the drakes and the wargs
Sure! adding that to the list now!
Lovely! Great content.
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I have read Silmarillion more than once. I love your videos.
Hi!I like your chanel,I just subscribe!Keep up the good work!
I am literally at the point where I have to fight the belrog in shadow of war. Love your videos
The problem with the Balrogs having functional wings is that at least two of them failed to extricate themselves from situations that would lead to their demise, one of them directly.
Will you do a video about any of the Orc or Uruk-Hai leaders? Video about Azog and his son would be amazing!
Id like to see a extension to the lotr, with all these epic monsters actually brought to life more, but with the hobbits not living of the the lotr at all I guess it maybe better to leave it to imagination.. still...would be very epic to see more of this world.
I love these explaination videos. I thought me an my friends were the only ones who want to know more about these intresting univereses
I really love your work being an Aussie and all 😉 but would love if you would go into more depth with the Tolkien characters as there is so much detail for nearly every character!
The Lord of the Rings universe is truly inspiring in so many ways.
Gandalf the Grey had wanted all the XP to himself.
And then came back as Gandalf the White😂
I swear, this is why I subbed.
You are quality my friend
You are amazing!
Along side with anybody else that reads this! :)
Hope everyone has a good day and thanks for the video 🤘🏽😌
Love your videos keep it up
The Balrogs are so cool.
Josh Plays no they are not, they are hot.
Are you still going to do the second part to the interstellar video , nice detailed video btw
Having not read the books at the time, coupled with being a Warhammer player with a leaning towards the Chaos armies and its demons... the appearance of the Balrog in Moria was just fantastic. I gigantic smoldering monster of titanic strength that drove an army before it and dragged the most powerful member of the Fellowship into the abyss before it was gone.
love ur vids!
Great video! I love LOTR! Have you made a video on invasion of the body snatchers? If not, that would make a great video topic.
yep its on the list :)
The one from the seventies with Donald Sutherland has (in my opinion) the best ending in sci-fi movie history.
You know what I'd love to see? A movie about the Rise and Fall of Gondolin. If I remember right, balrogs were part of the sacking, and there was an incredible battle between an Elf named Glorfindel (not sure if it's the same one that ended up in Rivendell with Elrond later on or not) and one of the Balrogs when the fleeing Elves were trying to escape by the mountain paths. It would be epic to see that fight on the big screen.
Love these vids and was wondering if you guyd could take a look at the nanites in generator wrex or the replicators from stargate
They were all shape shifters, including Sauron and Melkor who only later got stuck in their evil forms. So Balrogs may have been able to materialize wings
When you read the books you can understand that all dark things on Middle Earth were just corrupted forms by Melkor originally created by Eru Iluvatar.
Wonderful video. This elf approves and subscribes. 🌿✨
When I read the novels, after I saw the film's, I was so disappointed that they never stated in the film's that Balrogs were known as elvens bane. Always thought it was savage how they're recgonized as one of the few beings higher up than elven folk.
Like the vid, keep it up!
"YOU SHALL NOT PASS... gas." -- My words of warning to my roommate after he inhaled that second burrito even I cautioned him against it.
Please cover the spider and morgoths battle (love you Channel good to fall asleep to)
Gandalf and the Balrog fighting kinda reminds me of the fight that is supposed to take place during Ragnarok in the Norse religion between Odin and Surtur, and especially because Lord Of The Rings has some Norse Pagan inspiration in it.
Balrogs are incredible awesome monsters, and exploring there lore is amazing.
great videos as always, I would love to hear more about mothra from godzilla
Haha, I was literally just researching lotr lore. Thanks for this!
Where are your videos on the Maiar? I only see 8 videos in the linked playlist.
Great introduction to the Balrogs
i think you should explore all the wizards like gandalf and saruman
for sure! I was planning on that, but will add them to the list now :)
The Balrog fascinated me the first time I watched the movie.
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Small but essential decision to show Legolas as the only other one visibly terrified
Please do a video on the warriors who were cursed and helped out in the battle of Gondor in the return of the king!
Can you imagine the balrogs fighting together, standing as a line against the great armys of elves and men. Awesome!
When I read the Hobbit and trilogy for the first time in the 70s, losing Gandalf to the Balrog was the single most distressing moment. I went into shock. I love the scene where he’s returned. But the shock still reverberates.