Favero Assioma DUO Power Meter Pedals - Unboxing, Install, Ride, Data Review
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- The full run-down on the Favero Assioma Power Meter Pedals - Along with their latest update with their Instantaneous Angular Velocity firmware update that make the power meter within ±1% 'accurate' and compatible with oval chainrings.
Links:
Favero Assioma DUO (Amazon US): amzn.to/2TnK1wm
Video Index:
0:00 Intro
1:32 Specs and technical details
3:02 Accuracy to ±1% with IAV firmware update
4:19 Unboxing
7:45 Pedal weight and comparisons to other pedals.
8:47 Q-Factor measurement and comparison.
10:50 Pedal stack height.
13:24 Mobile App - Pedal activation over BLE.
15:41 DCR Analyser Tool data review (Quarq/NEO).
17:54 Downsides/catches with the Favero Assioma.
19:03 Current Pricing.
19:20 Wrap up.
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The quality of these videos is insane , you make GCN look like amateurs
comparing apple and oranges really
Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels, another great review
Thanks for giving me a ride on yesterday mate 👍. Made the suffering a little easier
Thanks for pointing out the firmware update. I had missed that the last time I checked the battery level in the app. Looks like they made these great pedals even better.
Thanks Shane great review had my eye on these for a while, just needed a helping hand to justify my decision ☺️
Just ordered the duo’s today (although they are on backorder). Your review helped me to make my choice!
Ordered mine last night. Thanks for the great review.
What an excellent review. Very clear, cogent, comprehensive and conversational. I have made the decision to what to buy without looking further.
Thanks for your help.
Great review. Just ordered a DUO. Only drawback: they don't come in a hazelnut flavor. Thanks for the excellent, informative, thorough review, Shane!
I've had the UNO's for a few weeks now and they've been great! Easy setup and accurate compared to my Tacx trainer. So far so good and I'm very happy with them.
That’s true
Great review. Been using a duo inside and out for over six months. Never missed a beat and keeps its charge really well. Can't fault them.
Bought the Duo 2 months ago and they are excellent! Great value and quality - nice to see that confirmed.
Great job on the review! Only thing I’d disagree with is the “non-replaceable battery” downside. This will never come up in practice, the battery will last for YEARS given that you hardly ever need to charge them.
I've just pulled the trigger on a set of these, thanks for the video @Shane
I got the Assioma Uno, love it, and they have really good support too, they reply within a day and are very helpful!
You still happy with it after 3 years?
@@stephanhansen5931 couldn't be happier!
In depth and easy to watch as always. Yet to test mine against my Tacx NEO, but I would have put money on them being bang on before watching this video. Glad to get confirmation! I like everything about them except the weird charger. Now to go upgrade the firmware before my next ride.
Your reviews are spot on mate, just subscribed.
Just bought these b/c of this review, upgrading from vector 2's which were fine, just banged up the "pods", thank you Shane!
Hi, What head unit are you using, please?
Just got the duo. It was much easier to set up with my Garmin tracker than my Vector 3’s. Longest time was fully charging the pedals every thing else was quick and easy. BTW, 50 hours and 25000 total hours to 20% degradation is just under 50 years at 10 hours a week. I’m sure other components and I will wear out faster.
Just got my FedEx shipment with my Assioma DUO's today. Thanks Lama.
I have these and the bePRO on a couple of bikes. The bePROs are on a roadie with oval rings and power data accuracy has been spot on. Customer service while in Italy has been quick to respond and language is not a barrier to overcome. Had to ask a few questions, not try and resolve any problems.
While I’m not affiliated with them, I highly recommend this brand for your power needs and the Assioma pedals have been very easy to switch between bikes.
Great review, as usual. I am seriously considering these pedals
I have bought a pair of these about 3 to 4 months ago (duo's), they have been absolutely faultless, user friendly, long battery life, well water sealed electronics and battery and having several bikes, fit in perfectly to changing over from bike to bike easilly, can recommend them fully and completely changed my training effectiveness, without a power meter you are training blind.
Awesome! Cheers for the comment mate. I appreciate hearing the good and bad from others.
@@gplama No problems mate.
Bought these pedals over the Garmin vector 3. Overall great experience so far. zero dropouts. super reliable. only problem is clipping on may be tricky as they spin around quite easily
Thanks for your excellent review. I was shopping for a crank-based set-up, but there's nothing on the market for pre- Hollow-Tech cranksets, and I have Ultegra 6500. A pedal-based system is certainly easier to shift onto multiple bikes. If I ever decide to go with a more modern set-up, these will still work, and even if the batteries crap out after two years, for the 650 USD I paid, that's just $27/month to have accurate power data. All one has to do is NOT buy a coffee shop latte and a scone on a half dozen rides each month, and these are paid for. I thought I would never care about measuring my power output, but as it turns out, I do, mostly so I can determine how much I've got in me and can then mete it out over the duration of a ride.
I’ve had these pedals for two years now. I’ve had no issues whatsoever with these. I use them with the KICKR trainer and the power always matches what comes out of the KICKR. The battery life is amazing. The only downside is the charging cable is so unique, I can’t just grab any old usb cable to charge them when I’m traveling. This review is why I bought them.
Excellent! Thanks for dropping by and leaving this comment. Real world experiences are just as important as the videos I make.
Only bought my UNO today. But on the website you can purchase spares and replacement parts - cables, bodies, spindles. The unique cable is not a biggy when you consider they are water proof - you do not have to worry about water ingress shortening the life of your power meter.
I'm so glad I gave up on waiting for the back-ordered Vector 3's and pulled the trigger on the Assioma DUOs.
One thing you can do with the Assioma after the two year warranty is the user can repair them, as all the parts are available for purchase from Favero . I have used mine for about 6 months without any problems and have just brought replacement cleats from Favero as they are very well priced. Thanks for your review.
Great review as usual. Thanks Shane
Awesome after having a bad experience with Power Tap & my Vector 3s pedals now unreliable readings with drop off power or low continuous power data I think I will try these, I require a pedal power meter to switch between bikes easily, these look promising. Thanks for the review, great content.
I’m in the market, great review thanks
I've been riding the Duo's for more than two charge cycles. Both lasted 60H before I got the battery low message. Hereafter you have 8h before going dead. I tested that indoors and can verify this. These are currently THE BEST POWER pedals you can be. I have had zero issues - inside, outside, bike 1, bike 2 - doesn't matter. ALWAYS reliable, consistent and accurate. I really love these pedals. One tiny recommedation; use looks grip cleat. These are better than the supplied although the also do the job.
Good to know, i'm planning on ordering the Uno
Still using them and do they take a charge still?
@@danielj8177 Nope not anymore. Switched to competitors ;-)
@@teriemer thank you! Care to divulge which manufacture you went with?
@@danielj8177 Outside on Quarq Dzero and indoor Garmin Rally RS200. Nothing beats Quarq as I see it and the Garmins are (so far) solid and good looking ;-)
nice review Shane! I have the P1 and saw what you did there with the right side power missing LOL kinda makes me wanna switch camp also for the extra weight savings and flatter pedals. I didn't know there is an option in telling PM that I have an oval chainring, will check to configure that in my Garmin tonight, cheers!
As expected Assiomas turned out to be super solid. I'd really choose those over Powertap and Garmin. And I see built in battery as a strong point of these. They dodged a lot of problems with that decision. I wouldn't worry about battery life cycle as they require charging 10-20 times (?) per year. At this rate battery will easily outlast other components of the power meter.
Exactly. Sure batteries degrade with charge cycles, but if a standard cellphone is anything to go by, it's going to be a very long time before they're at, say, 50% capacity. Much rather that than having to deal with replaceable battery (cap) issues.
I‘ve had the P1s and the Vector 3. Both died and now on the Assiomas, should have taken them much earlier.
Awesome review...as usual!
Great review Shane. I've had these for a few months now. Love the functionality. Not a fan of the pedals, not sure if I am just goofy. But I really struggle to clip in with these - which was never an issue with my look keos...maybe just need to ride more ;)
Great review. Very informative. Many thanks!!
I think you sold me on these ones mate. I will retire the Watteam G2's this year and get these, cheers
The most important part given the focus due to it - peeling off the plastic. That was awesome.
Thank you, Great video with a lot of practical information
Awesome video and really helpful - thank you.
This is so great man, thank you.
Great review. Nice to see truth in advertising from a manufacturer
Thanks. Ordered a pair from an Aussie online shop.
Thx for another great review 👍
We need an update to compare to the new Garmin Rally!
Spectacular video! Subscribed!
I own these, quarq and tacx neo. All highly recommended.
I love your reviews, small update starting firmware 4 it does support single Bluetooth Chanel
These pedals are just such winners. It's crazy to me you can get (singles) for just a few hundred. It was not remotely that long ago PMs were more than a lot of (not low end) bikes. Great advancement.
just bought them.. and they are slick.
Great vid, although after watching, all I want now is a adjustable measuring tool thingy...
Alex Spencer I am envious of your wallet because I now want the pedals.
Great vid. Thanks!
Mine arrived today, replacing the Powertap C1. No bloody choccies in the box though :)
I've been using the Assioma Duo for a few weeks now and they have been faultless. Compare very well with my powertap hub also.
Considering the extremely buggy firmware of the Garmin Vector 3, which I unfortunately own (and any Garmin product in general), these are a much better buy.
I agree, my vector 3s are terrible, think i will return them and get the assioma uno's.
Yeah I bought the assioma uno's... flawless, not a single issue so far!
Man, I thought I might be the only one! My Garmin Vector 3 pedals have been spotty at best, and the battery life is poop! I still have the receipt so, maybe returning them is the best option. Thanks for the feed back, now I don't feel like the "lone ranger".
Yeah, i just sold my Vector 3 on eBay for the price of a set of Duos...cant wait to have the Vectors out of my life. Thats now two Garmin products i couldn't get rid of fast enough. The Garmin 830 with its god awful touch screen (replaced with the "it just works" Wahoo Elemnt Bolt), and now the Vector 3!
Glad it isn't just me. Sometimes my vector 3's will bounce around +-100 watts for a constant effort level. This is a real treat.
With the Shimano Patent for the SPD MTB pedal expired on 4/6/2019,, after 20 years, do you think they will come out with a SPD MTB pedal body to suit the pod and shaft?
I got the UNO version and I am pretty happy with them. Two litte issue I would like to mention, I was very surprised, that the included cleats got no axle mark, so it is a little bit guessing to adjust them. And the other thing is, that I have seen a variance of -15/-20 watt compared to the values of my Elite Direto in Zwift - I assume the reason is my paddeling technique.
Same here with uno compared to direto. Its same at 150-200 watts, at 250-300 about 10-15 watts less that direto and 300-350 15-20 watts. But different in power is consistent, so no problem here.
Got the Favero bePro S pedals and they have been really good. These will most likely not be worse. They do however require a Smartphone to activate.
great review. will the fererro rocher review come out anytime soon ?
I keep eating them during the review! :)
Hi Shane, thank you for the really precise comparison on the different measurement systems. I just got me a pair of Favero Assioma for one of my bicycles. Now, what I'm a bit confused about is that your using a Quarq spider mounted on a pre-2013 S-Works crank. I always thought this is impossible! So, what Quarq spider is it you're using??? I own the same crank and I'd like to upgrade it, too. Thank you for your answer in advance! Stephan
Bit late to the Assioma party but looking at these as my single power crank arm looks like it’s going to be a tight fit on the new bike order , thinking of these as an upgrade , judging by comments it looks like it’s worth it
You're awesome Mate!!
Another great review nice S Works cranks I’ve got those didn’t realise Quark made a power meter what model is that if you don’t mind saying thanks
Just got mine. Only surprise has been that the Strava calories calculation of my rides has halved! Makes no difference in the real world, but it means I need to ride twice as far or adjust my apple Watch Fitness targets!
Hi Shane you offered some advice on your live stream the other day for some power accuracy issues i was having with my assioma duo's and after removing two spacers on each side and reinstalling the app, the power discrepancy has gone and it now matches up perfectly with my kickr core. Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it. 👍
Great to hear!
quite a good review! can you regrease and service the bearings by yourself?
Mr Lama man.
Thanks for the review. If I’m super lazy. Can I use them independently on two bikes. Or is the right pedal only functional by being a left master. Hence the uno left.
Right is slaved to the right. Won't read accurately
Thanks for the awesome review! Just a quick question: Do you know in which country it is manufactured?
A good question for Favero. I don’t know.
Good work Shane.
Are any of the axle bearings on the Pedal based PM's adjustable? I've never had pedal bearings that have really failed and needed replacing, but I've had to adjust plenty to remove play.
I believe these are fully serviceable.
Hi Shane, I have learned a lot from your research and videos, thank you! I have literally just ordered a set of Assioma Duos and was wondering which head unit will give me the best overall data analysis and visibility for training and performance purposes? Thus far I have been using the Wahoo Fitness App on my phone which has been fine for the basics (speed, distance, cadence etc) and may be pretty good for Duo data as well?
Look into either the Wahoo Elemnt units or Garmin Edge. Those are the most popular for what you’re after.
Hi Shane, just got the Assiomas and they are great. Quick question, do you reckon you need to use an additional washer on Ultegra cranks? There is a small recess but there still appears ample room between the pod and the crank without the washer. Cheers. P.S. Awesome review.
It's cool Shane - I answered my own question. Thanks anyway.
Hey Shane, not sure if you have answered this in any of your Videos: How does the actual display of the live data look like on the Wahoo elemnt bolt? Are the bugs now fixed with the Favero Assioma - Elemnt Bolt combination? Thanks for the great content, you're awesome.
No issues that I'm aware of.
Another great review Shwne (anyone catch that?)!! ;-)
Great review. Do you know what is the stack height of the pedal with the cleat?
Hi Shane! Merry Christmas and Happy New year.. Im thinking of getting my first power meter- Is there any performance difference in getting UNO (as its cheaper) versus the the Duo? So basically go for the UNO or wait and save up for a Duo? Thanks
Your call on what to go with. UNO measures left only and doubles it to guess ‘total power’.
Great review, Shane. Now that all things are practically equal, would you recommend these or the PowerTap P1 pedals? I've been staring at my computer screen for a week and can't decide.
The only thing I am hesitant about on the Duos is the possibility of damaging the pod. As for the P1 pedals their only downside seems to be their size.
Entirely your call what to go with. I'll be even less helpful and throw the Vector3 into your mix... once they sort out the battery cap/housing issue. Stay tuned on that.
At least with the Vector3 I have the extra $200USD price tag to help with the decision, haha. The features/price of the P1 and the Duo just make the decision very difficult. Do you think the worry about the pod on the duo is a legitimate concern?
The pod on the Duo wasn't any dramas. It's a solid little thing.
They do look amazing! just 1 question, the pod seems to stick out above the pedal platform, do you have any problems with shoe rub on the pod?
No issues for me. The pod is slightly smaller than the BePro too.
Hi Shane, thanks for the great review!
Would you recommend a pedal power meter over a crank power meter?
Much appreciated!
It depends. Pedals are MUCH easier to install and are a lot more compatible with things. Cranks require bottom bracket matching, crank lengths, and frame clearance. There's pros and cons of each. Pedal power meters are really easy to install now though.
I will, recommend pedal over crank due to the fact you can use them in any bike
Hello,
I have a pair of Assioma pedals for over 2 years now and have been pleased with them. I did have to get new bodies as the bearings disintegrated and embedded themselves into the plastic.
The pedals have been paired to Wahoo Bolt v1 and have been fine. I replaced the Bolt v1 with the v2 because it’s shiny and has colours. :slight_smile: However, on a ride if I have stopped for over the 5 minute shut off and start off again I have no power reading. I carried on with the ride but noticed the left pedal lights are completely off, but the right pedal lights are fine. The only way to get the pedals to wake up is to connect them to the usb charger. Now, it doesn’t happen every time and I thought it was related to BLE connecting instead of ANT+, but I made sure the Bolt is connecting via ANT+. I seem to have fewer dropouts when the Wahoo companion app is not opened as it connects to the pedal via BLE.
Favero has analysed the pedal data and concluded the left pedal’s battery is faulty causing random shutdown, but my experience is that it only started with a change of head unit. By the way, the cost of replacement is over 200 Euro.
Does anyone else have similar problems? Any help is much appreciated.
I'd take their word for it. If the battery is faulty then it'll occur with other head units too. Maybe borrow one from a friend and test this.
@@gplama Thanks for the response, but it only started with the new head unit. I'll keep monitoring the situation ensuring the Wahoo app or any other is not trying to connect with the pedals. Furthermore, it only occurs when stopped AND with other riders present, which may mean possible BLE issues? We shall see... thanks Tuhin
Best powermeter pedals out there bar none
Thorough review, thx. Technically speaking, when the rechargeable batteries die, the option exists to replace the pedal axle with new ones sold by Favero. They cost less than new pedals, but the way engineering and products progress it's doubtful replacement would be the best option. I am very pleased with mine. Just recharged for the second time since purchase logging 98 hrs. So, the 50 hr/charge spec seems to be accurate.
Thanks for the review. Can the DUO be used as 2x UNOs? LHS on 1 bike and RHS om another bike. Would it still function or do the need to sync to work?
Hi Shane,
If you use the DUO with Viiiiva HRM as a bridge does Zwift read it as half power (one pedal) or does it calculate both pedals? I can't find the answer to that anywhere. Makes me wonder if it's worth getting both or is it just better to stick with the UNO when it comes to using the pedals indoor with apps (Zwift / Trainer Road). Please let me know if you can. Thanks!
Good question! It’ll take the combined LR ANT+ channel and transmit that as Bluetooth. You’ll need to use this bridge each time which can be another step in getting up and riding.
Great video, any idea if I ca throw these on a Peloton Bike and get them to work with Swift, or is there more to it than that?
Maybe, if the Peloton bike has standard threaded pedals. It's still a non-smart bike though.
Hi Shane, I was thinking of getting this but the single side. Would the single side be sufficient or is the dual side the way to go. Please advise. Thank you.
Good Morning. great help you gave, good continuation of videos. and keeps going. but I would like to clear some doubts. 1 the batteries are not addicted after 2 years of training hours? do you sell the batteries separately? or do I have to buy other pedals ?. did anyone from the comments happen this?
The batteries on the original pair I have are still holding charge and have no issues. They don't sell the batteries separately, they are part of the spindle/meter and can't be removed.
Hi Mr Llama. I have really wide feet (43.5 wide using Bonts). Is my foot likely to rub against the pod or is there plenty of room there? I can't find any comments on this on the interweb. Thanks
great video
Thanks Shane - great review. I am looking at these and wanted to know can I export the power data for each pedal. I am in my fifties and have had a few lower limb surgeries over the years and want to work on my pedaling symmetry. Thanks
You can see left/right balance, pedal smoothness, torque effectiveness... and now the Assioma support Cycling Dynamics. If you have a newer Garmin Edge unit you'll be able to see all that pedal analysis data in real-time and in post activity. To answer your question, you'll get the data from both left and right but it depends on the software you use to analyse the files.
Brilliant - thanks Shane. I don’t have a head unit yet and was leaning towards the bolt. May need to rethink that. Much appreciated.
The debacle with the Vector 3 pedals is going to help the sale of these.
Helped me. I bought a pair yesterday. And I’m a Garmin man. Mk2i watch and 830 computer 🧐
Keen to buy the Uno's as my first power metre and run them with a Bryton Aero 60 head unit. Now that this video has been up for a while, can people say that they last for more than the warranty period?
It appears all the magic of the pedals is protected between the pedal and the crank, considering this, do you think the Assioma pedals would have a higher probability of survival in a RUNA (rapid unplanned negative acceleration [aka: crash]) vs other pedal designs? It looks like if you were to even hit the pedal on a turn, the power meter would be fine, compared to other designs. Any thoughts?
It really depends how gnarly the stack would be I guess.... so not sure.
Hi Shane, first of all thanks for your helpful reviews.
I would like to know if you tried to instal a Power Meter Pedals into an Spinning Bike.
Does it make any sense? Do you think it could be helpful? Even if it's not 100% accurate/reliable could it work to have a measurement to start with? I've an old Keiser M3 bike at home (this bike tells you power, but it does not count it quite accurate and it has NO connection at all) and my Favero Assioma Duo.
Thanks,
If the spin bike has the same thread as a standard bike, they'll be all good. You need to set the crank length for them correctly though for accurate power.
Good review and information, is there a rider weight limit for these pedals?
I can’t recall sorry. Check the Favero website for more details.
Hey Shane , do they calculate cadence too?
Great review
Yes, listed in the video.
Hi Shane,
I hope you can help me. I own the Assioma Duo‘s and a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt. I can’t find a way to set the crank length on the Wahoo or the Wahoo App. When I change the crank length with the Favero App it resets everytime I turn the pedals on and off again. Have you had the same problems?
Favero....PLEASE make these Shimano cleat compatible. Shane....any chance that may happen in the future??
I’d also like that.
Hi, firstly this is a great review especially when combined with the recent firmware update video. I'm looking at the Assioma Duo but my only concern is the Look Keo based cleats. I've Shimano SPD SL Dura Ace on 3 bikes and what's putting me off is I'll lose the ability to just grab my shoes and ride any of the bikes (I live in Ireland so I change bike based on very regular weather swings, wet/dry/too wet so indoor). So if I accept that I might use 2 pairs of shoes, one with Look and the other SPD-SL cleats on them then the deciding factor will be how the Look system compares to a Shimano Dura Ace pedal in terms of engagement, release and feel of the pedals. Can you comment on the pedal comparison outside of power measurement?
Thanks for dropping by John. I run fixed (grey) cleats for the Assioma, so I like a rock solid platform with a SNAPPY clip in and out. These have been fine for me. Never unclipped in a maximal sprint outside... and never slipped on my a*** walking in them.
Side Note: The Assioma don't use a Look Keo cleat, they use a slightly modified cleat and call it "Look Keo Compatible" (I'll cover this in more detail in a video soon).....
RE: Switching between bikes, the Assioma use an Xpedo Thrust NXL pedal body. So if you want to use Assioma on one bike and have compatible pedals on other bikes, you can pick those up for your other bikes.
@@gplama Thanks to your great Favero reviews I took delivery of a set of Duo today! cant wait to start using them. Setting them up was a breeze, now I just need to get the cleats in a similar position to my old SPD-SL ones. Thanks again Shane for the help.
Brilliant review,but the company haven’t learn nothing from your reviews,the next generation is not like we expected 65 mm🤭💥🥊