3:00 ah, the thermals are correct, the company that made it, GDLS, actually preplaced/upgraded some of the components in the turret due to the government not wanting to give other countries the exact same turret as they had as it was an upgrade available to countries who still used the M60, mainly Turkey, but, instead of downgrading it as one would expect, GDLS actually upgraded parts of it, such as the thermals and if im not mistaken, even the gun computer, and then simply replaced some other parts with ones of equivalent capability
I believed the only restricted part of the turret is the armor package. The rest is just standard product improvement. Iirc, M1 up to the original A1 has rather outdated fcs and optics of it's time. Even m60a3 TTS has better fcs and optics.
@@jintsuubest9331 interesting, I remember reading about it and that the thermals and some other stuff were upgraded and changed out, could be wrong, been a bit since i read that
Side note, if you want to test what it would be like with its upgraded engine you can do a test drive in arcade mode. In arcade the engine has 1,200 HP, which would have been put in instead of the 750hp engine if produced.
@Unknown-xf9kw bro everyones stupid lol There's literally an option that allows you to play with the" fully upgraded vehicle" even with thermal and everything, or current status with the exact vehicle you've got with your current upgrades. not the realistic and arcade mode
@@williewilson2250 no it isn’t, leclerc doesn’t have the gigantic turret ring weakspot that can be penned by any tank in the game even ifvs, leclerc also is much faster both forwards and reverse
@@Optimusprime56241 well no worries, lecercs breach weakness is 10x bigger than abrams, the upper plate of abrams when on a slight incline can ricoshet shells, leclerc cant and we dont even talk about leclerc lower plate. Abrams armor is definitly better. Thats fine since I dont rely on taking a hit in my leclerc.
Now if only Gaijin would add the Spähpanzer Luchs into the game, cause they already have some parts of it. Mainly the 20mm MK 20 Rh-202 gun, which is on the Marder 1A- & 1A3.
@@killroy1117 I mean when was the last BMP? I play all nations but I'd want nations to get more light tanks (Israel, China, Britain and France). For Russians, less 10.0 vehicles and actually give them a BMD-4M variant.
Love the videos Justin, keep up the great work!! Would love a video on the T-80UD or Christian II! T-80UD is supposedly a beast for its br and I’m really curious how the Christian II will do at that br with Sweden.
Gen 2 thermals are correct. A mod on the post IIRC talked to them and said it will get gen 2 when the update comes, not gen 1. So it has gen 2 RN as it should
The things i still want are UH1Y with AGR-20C antitank rockets at 9.3 (and adding the AGR-20Cs to all the other APKWS aircraft) Fix the AGR20A/Bs velocity, flight profile and lack of ability to aim them.. Also add the missing Prox Fuze to the AGR-20A and make the A/Bs have the same cost as normal Rockets. Only the Cs should have ATGM spawn cost. Add M551A1 TTS at 8.3 and lower the normal M551 down to 7.7 cuz its freaking awful. Add Lav-25A2 at 7.3 Add A6E Swip at 10.3 (and moving the A6E Tram back down to 10.0) Add Nasaam3 at 12.0 Add F18C at 12.0 Add M109A6 to 8.3 (with LG Excalibur rounds) Add M109A7 Palidan to 9.0 (with Laser guided Excalibur and copperhead rounds) Add SEAD missiles Add buddy lazing and drones that can laze for arty. Add M10 Booker LT at 11.3 Add M829A3 ammo to the Sep V1 and V2 Adding M833 to the M60A3 and M1 Abrams and fixing the M833 so its got 475mm pen like its suppose to. Moving the Ah1F down to 9.3 where it belongs and add it its missing CMs. Fixing the Aim-9Ls lack of CM hardening, it shouldnt get spoofed by 1 or 2 flares and its suppose to ignore the IR strobes, they made this missile useless with unjust nerfs to make the Aim9M better. Moving the AH-6M down to 9.7, the Kiowa down to 10.0, the MH-60L dap down to 10.7 where it belongs. Moving the Hinds upto 10.0 where they belong. Moving the HSTVL down to 10.3 the 2S38 upto 11.3 and the 292 to 10.7. Changing the AH1Zs hellfires from Bs to Ks sense it never used Bs and they were out of production 20 years before the AH1z existed. The Final thing is fixing the damn abrams armor and ERA armor thickness. The Front Hull is 460mm protection not 360mm (this is the case from the M1 upto the M1A2), and the turret is 640mm From the M1, the M1IP and the M1A1 is 860mm thick, while the M1A1HA/M1A2 has a 1000mm thick turret front. the M1A2 Sep DOES have DU in the hull. gayjins Gaslighting is illrelevent and wrong. Thought the Sep V1 and V2 have the same armor, which is 860mm hull and 1400mm turret. Also the M1A1HA and M1A2+ and up all have a 51mm UFP not 19-38mm... As for the ERA Arat 1 is 150mm KE and 800mm CE protection. Arat 2 is 350mm KE and 1400 CE protection. Where is the Bradley A3s BRAT2 Armor??? (spoiler Brat 2 is just Arat 1 where they figured out how to safely mount it to an ifv in the early 2000s) we dont have a A1 or A2 bradley so adding Brat 1 to the game wouldnt matter, but if we did get it, then Brat 1 is 80mm KE & 600mm CE Protection. IF they did all that id actually play crap thunder.. but until then.. NTY
Would anyone clarify what the gunner / load / commander is saying, after he blasts the T-80B at 20:42? To my ear, it really sounds like he's saying "POPSICLE! Target destroyed!"
The biggest issue i see wifh this tank, id that its supposed to balance against the 292 right? Byt then it has m60 armour and mobility with a lot of extra weight. vs. The 292 having t-80 armour and mobility.
It doesn’t have m60 mobility. It’s actually far worse. You have an extra 10 tons of weight with no extra hp. Really the only way to play this effectively is to sit in the back of the map by your spawn and snipe people.
@@serch3ster smoke grenades I can see the issue. But a .30 cal coax is almost useless unless you see an m42 or something like it. The .50 is alright. But it isn't that crazy at 10.0. the 292 is basically the only russian tank to not have ERA but also almost no other country has it either at 10.0. I do agree with thermals. The second gen thermals are pretty good.
@@airsoftpopcorn i know i should have said it differently but i meant the purpose engine that would have been put for production instead of the 750hp but never became because no bought it
Imagine spawning in your shining t72 with its bias armour then getting immediately destroyed by a 1.0 br truck that is actually really bad🤣. You wouldn't even be mad
Eow...the snail just hates US.....couldn't even get the engine right. T-T "production vehicles would have the more powerful General Dynamics Land Systems AVDS-1790-9 diesel developing 1,200 hp (890 kW) and Allison X-1100-5 series automatic transmission" it was so simple.....and they fumbled it.....We should be getting the Production model. But the snail has NO issue giving enhancements and embellishments to Russian prototypes
... how come this shit is 56Ton and the Abrams is about the same, I thought that having less armor in the Hull would make it like 20% lighter... it's just a worse Abrams God damn it !!
Let's not forget that they also nerfed both A10s 30mm Avenger to only fire HVAP rounds, oh yeahhhhhh no Tungsten rounds, not even just AP, HVAP so we cant pen MBTs of 1000m top down, not to mention the a10 gets blown out of the sky bc its so slow, least they can do is add the later variants at higher BRs and give us the actual power of the cannon and stand off abilities. su25s are just sooooooooo much better.
There alot of bugs thus patch. Aloy of things are a lil wonky. I can't remember which map it was but there were building on the runway in air rb match I played yesterday 😂 n a few other small things
Yeah, just complain about ONLY having 2 A-10s in the game. Look at what your planes can carry and how those ordnances can be used from the Moons orbit. With thermal imagers included. Sometimes those release their payload soo damn high up, the game doesn't even render them in from the AAs perspective. Funny game limitation, but they see the ground targets with thermals without issues. All the A4s, Phanthoms, F-16s and other multirole stuff. If i only look at the U.S. techtree. The russian planes can either do air-to-air or air-to-ground, while (except the SU-29) they suck at the other thing. High BR ground RB as a whole is just a miserable steaming pile of crap at this point. Specially with the amount of quitters "playing" there. ...and the amount of small, knife fight city maps.
@@Optimusprime56241Skill issue bud the BVM and T-90 have a worse reload, worse round, worse armor, and worse mobility, and worse weak spots that the Leo or Strv. If you are genuinely having trouble fighting a Russian MBT you are a joke.
This tank does nothing to "balance" 10.0, its just another American tank designed to get russians more kills. IE the whole game is just for russian bias
What a stupid looking tank. With this and the "click bait" I think Gaijin is trolling USA on purpose. Why would they even bring something like this to USA? How about more IFVs or Spaa? Did anyone even request this stupid looking tank?
Justin! Give the Fox a try, it's a nuke printer!
Rat gaming
What does it say though?
@@Minebrawlzzz flanking is not rat gaming
3:00 ah, the thermals are correct, the company that made it, GDLS, actually preplaced/upgraded some of the components in the turret due to the government not wanting to give other countries the exact same turret as they had as it was an upgrade available to countries who still used the M60, mainly Turkey, but, instead of downgrading it as one would expect, GDLS actually upgraded parts of it, such as the thermals and if im not mistaken, even the gun computer, and then simply replaced some other parts with ones of equivalent capability
I believed the only restricted part of the turret is the armor package.
The rest is just standard product improvement. Iirc, M1 up to the original A1 has rather outdated fcs and optics of it's time. Even m60a3 TTS has better fcs and optics.
@@jintsuubest9331 interesting, I remember reading about it and that the thermals and some other stuff were upgraded and changed out, could be wrong, been a bit since i read that
Side note, if you want to test what it would be like with its upgraded engine you can do a test drive in arcade mode. In arcade the engine has 1,200 HP, which would have been put in instead of the 750hp engine if produced.
That's a good tip, a perfect example. Didn't even think of that, even tho it's most obvious answer lol
Why the fuck would you do that when the game provides two modes of test drive...
@@NovaeRes-p2w he literally said test drive it with arcade mode, IN TEST DRIVE
@Unknown-xf9kw bro everyones stupid lol
There's literally an option that allows you to play with the" fully upgraded vehicle" even with thermal and everything, or current status with the exact vehicle you've got with your current upgrades. not the realistic and arcade mode
@@NovaeRes-p2w They are talking about the theoretical engine swap the real one could have gotten. Not the in game modifications.
The nato hump isn't a thing. It's a gaijin hump. Because gaijin refuses to let the barrel go as low as it actually can in reality.
Enjoyed that the 2 Gepards you killed around 17:00 both had PhlyDaily decals. Dont see many of those any more. Not since he stopped posting content.
The update is kinda trash...it broke more stuff than it added...70% of the udpate is just copy-paste 75€ Premiums...insane.
fox was easily the best vehicle of the update
@@THECHAIR.alpha jets, zerstorer filling a very bad gap in German tree, and the fox. That’s all the good stuff
I disagree with you
Yes, i can't play the game because every thing ist blurey and can't see shit when i'm in a plane.
@@THECHAIR. it's just a rally car with an autocannon
I do like how the m60 eng8ne deck is so low that you still get gun depression over it.
I don't know if anyone else has asked this yet, but are you going to revisit the Leclercs? They feel pretty damn amazing now with the 5 sec reload.
Yeah they’re straight up better than the Abrams now, all they need now is OFL 120 F2
@@Optimusprime56241so is the Abrams armor not better than the leclerc like most people complain about?
@@williewilson2250 no it isn’t, leclerc doesn’t have the gigantic turret ring weakspot that can be penned by any tank in the game even ifvs, leclerc also is much faster both forwards and reverse
@@Optimusprime56241 that's what I was thinking lmao, people underestimate the vulnerability of a large (center of mass as well) 360° weakspot
@@Optimusprime56241 well no worries, lecercs breach weakness is 10x bigger than abrams, the upper plate of abrams when on a slight incline can ricoshet shells, leclerc cant and we dont even talk about leclerc lower plate. Abrams armor is definitly better. Thats fine since I dont rely on taking a hit in my leclerc.
Russia tank ahh reverse speed
t72's have a 4km/h reverse speed, this thing has 8kmh/h. much better lmao
@@peterptsd t-62 has 8km/h same era
@@peterptsd no it isn’t much better they’re both shit in terms of reverse speed
@@peterptsd2x0 is still 0 lmao 🤣
Most tanks in that era had around that much reverse speed. It wasn't strange back then.
Now if only Gaijin would add the Spähpanzer Luchs into the game, cause they already have some parts of it. Mainly the 20mm MK 20 Rh-202 gun, which is on the Marder 1A- & 1A3.
Gaijin would rather release the BMP 40 more times
@@killroy1117 I mean when was the last BMP? I play all nations but I'd want nations to get more light tanks (Israel, China, Britain and France). For Russians, less 10.0 vehicles and actually give them a BMD-4M variant.
@@KwisssPbv 501, that was the most recent BMP. But that was months ago.
Or the funny WWII Panzer II Luchs, that would funny.
I've called it the short bus Abrams lol
It basically is
@bolshevik1017 t72 when they get shot by an Abrams 4km away and there’s nothing they can do (this isn’t war thunder)
@@Optimusprime56241It seems recently Abrams are getting swatted by 125mm ATGMs.
If only this had the 1200hp engine, the mobility is the absolute worst for 10.0 so I'm probably gonna wait before playing this.
Love the videos Justin, keep up the great work!! Would love a video on the T-80UD or Christian II! T-80UD is supposedly a beast for its br and I’m really curious how the Christian II will do at that br with Sweden.
"we have abrams at home"
Got this thing last night and even with all its shortcomings i still love it, its adorable.
More like ugly…
Here we are lads, bobblehead abrams
Challenger 2 armor updates didn't even go online but are in the changelogs.
Gen 2 thermals are correct. A mod on the post IIRC talked to them and said it will get gen 2 when the update comes, not gen 1. So it has gen 2 RN as it should
Got a nuke with the M1A2 today and got shot down by a su25 :(
Welcome to the club😂
skill issue lol
Gaijin pls give flare to nuke plane
@@kaidown5941it does have them
@@kaidown5941 100% agree
The update basically only added a bunch of premiums and a copy paste tech tree.
The things i still want are
UH1Y with AGR-20C antitank rockets at 9.3 (and adding the AGR-20Cs to all the other APKWS aircraft)
Fix the AGR20A/Bs velocity, flight profile and lack of ability to aim them.. Also add the missing Prox Fuze to the AGR-20A and make the A/Bs have the same cost as normal Rockets. Only the Cs should have ATGM spawn cost.
Add M551A1 TTS at 8.3 and lower the normal M551 down to 7.7 cuz its freaking awful.
Add Lav-25A2 at 7.3
Add A6E Swip at 10.3 (and moving the A6E Tram back down to 10.0)
Add Nasaam3 at 12.0
Add F18C at 12.0
Add M109A6 to 8.3 (with LG Excalibur rounds)
Add M109A7 Palidan to 9.0 (with Laser guided Excalibur and copperhead rounds)
Add SEAD missiles
Add buddy lazing and drones that can laze for arty.
Add M10 Booker LT at 11.3
Add M829A3 ammo to the Sep V1 and V2
Adding M833 to the M60A3 and M1 Abrams and fixing the M833 so its got 475mm pen like its suppose to.
Moving the Ah1F down to 9.3 where it belongs and add it its missing CMs.
Fixing the Aim-9Ls lack of CM hardening, it shouldnt get spoofed by 1 or 2 flares and its suppose to ignore the IR strobes, they made this missile useless with unjust nerfs to make the Aim9M better.
Moving the AH-6M down to 9.7, the Kiowa down to 10.0, the MH-60L dap down to 10.7 where it belongs.
Moving the Hinds upto 10.0 where they belong.
Moving the HSTVL down to 10.3 the 2S38 upto 11.3 and the 292 to 10.7.
Changing the AH1Zs hellfires from Bs to Ks sense it never used Bs and they were out of production 20 years before the AH1z existed.
The Final thing is fixing the damn abrams armor and ERA armor thickness.
The Front Hull is 460mm protection not 360mm (this is the case from the M1 upto the M1A2), and the turret is 640mm From the M1, the M1IP and the M1A1 is 860mm thick, while the M1A1HA/M1A2 has a 1000mm thick turret front. the M1A2 Sep DOES have DU in the hull. gayjins Gaslighting is illrelevent and wrong. Thought the Sep V1 and V2 have the same armor, which is 860mm hull and 1400mm turret.
Also the M1A1HA and M1A2+ and up all have a 51mm UFP not 19-38mm...
As for the ERA
Arat 1 is 150mm KE and 800mm CE protection.
Arat 2 is 350mm KE and 1400 CE protection.
Where is the Bradley A3s BRAT2 Armor??? (spoiler Brat 2 is just Arat 1 where they figured out how to safely mount it to an ifv in the early 2000s)
we dont have a A1 or A2 bradley so adding Brat 1 to the game wouldnt matter, but if we did get it, then Brat 1 is 80mm KE & 600mm CE Protection.
IF they did all that id actually play crap thunder.. but until then.. NTY
You should not be a dev
bro is the definition of a crying us main
the turret ring armor for the abrams should be updated to volumetric so that it has ~200mm protection (don’t quote me on that)
@@thiesdwersteg982Are you brain dyed?
Watching you and Spookston playing this abomination is quite something because both of you have different tones to describe that tank.
Hence the versatility of creators, you never get the same experience with every creator xP
I love the way it looks, reminds me of 90mm walker buldog. One of my favs
The fact that they didn't give it the 1200 and calling it the 120S is a travesty.
Can you make a video on the raam segol?
Hey justin, when will you do a video on the fuji, i plan on getting it in the summer when i get a bit more money, or whenever the hell its on sale
3BM42 still melts the turret cheeks, but at least it has a dart to make up for it* Can’t wait to add this to 10.0 lineup.
...the coolest things about this update: the LECLERCS have now a 5 SECONDS reload 😊
Would anyone clarify what the gunner / load / commander is saying, after he blasts the T-80B at 20:42?
To my ear, it really sounds like he's saying "POPSICLE! Target destroyed!"
Imagine a Abrams that you can't hear across the map
would be nice if it got the 1100 hp engine upgrade that was offered
The best part about the Chibi Abrams is that it's cute as hell
could you brush up on the French AMX-30 and the french line ups at around 9.0 to 10.0? i feel those have been dreadfully ignored and unloved
Bruh Justin, I can't take that 120S seriously. That thing looks like a toy tank lololol. 😂😂😂
Suprised he hasn’t made a video about the leclerc reload buff, it’s now 5 seconds finally
every time gaijin puts a update, 10.0 is always uplayable
man, that turret neck so visible to hit..
Chibi Abrams and the REAL Magic missiles!
Will you be covering the Raam at all?
"Do you plan on getting it?" If I want the M1A1 HC I don't have a choice 🙃
Well... 30s can go through your front. That BIG neck of that thing. A BTR-80A can kill you in 1 or 2 shots.
Still Think they should have given us the Super M60 first!
It’s reverse speed is still twice as fast as the turms and T80UD lol
17:28 min. That is a emblem from a youtuber in the killcam
I’m glad they added a type 90 to help me grind out Japan this patch.. not glad it’s $70..
They should make this tank as an event tank or so, it has no place in the normal tech tree
The biggest issue i see wifh this tank, id that its supposed to balance against the 292 right?
Byt then it has m60 armour and mobility with a lot of extra weight. vs. The 292 having t-80 armour and mobility.
It doesn’t have m60 mobility. It’s actually far worse. You have an extra 10 tons of weight with no extra hp.
Really the only way to play this effectively is to sit in the back of the map by your spawn and snipe people.
@@jacobchristen9446 I mentioned the extra weight for that reason
292 also doesnt have smoke grenades, machine guns, era and thermal.
@@serch3ster smoke grenades I can see the issue.
But a .30 cal coax is almost useless unless you see an m42 or something like it.
The .50 is alright.
But it isn't that crazy at 10.0.
the 292 is basically the only russian tank to not have ERA but also almost no other country has it either at 10.0.
I do agree with thermals. The second gen thermals are pretty good.
@@serch3ster mobility is far more important than smoke shells and a machine gun 😂
My play style is the opposite to yours, so this is the first vehicle i'm researching.
Looks like Abrams Little Brother
I like the look of the M60 120.
How do you have so many slots? I swear you can only purchase up to 10
Sucks that it’s based off the demo and not the actual production version that could have been better
They only built one, there was no production version
@@airsoftpopcorn there was supposed to be a production version with 1200 hp
@@Optimusprime56241 I know, but it wasn’t built
@@airsoftpopcorn i know i should have said it differently but i meant the purpose engine that would have been put for production instead of the 750hp but never became because no bought it
@@fantastic_3414 i think they should add that as a different tank with all the optional addons
Justin，I used your link to purchase 5000GE, but I didn't receive your sticker. Why is that?
Imagine spawning in your shining t72 with its bias armour then getting immediately destroyed by a 1.0 br truck that is actually really bad🤣. You wouldn't even be mad
16:35, one of which is artificially nerfed and limited for the sake of being a premium which is bullshit.
When jdams come Japan can finally have guided bombs for CAS lol
Eow...the snail just hates US.....couldn't even get the engine right. T-T "production vehicles would have the more powerful General Dynamics Land Systems AVDS-1790-9 diesel developing 1,200 hp (890 kW) and Allison X-1100-5 series automatic transmission" it was so simple.....and they fumbled it.....We should be getting the Production model.
But the snail has NO issue giving enhancements and embellishments to Russian prototypes
This is the M1A Chubby, and he is cute as hell :D :D :D
Bruh how are you BP lvl 83 already dang
hmmm "chonkbrams", "slobrams", "fauxbrams", "fakebrams"
We need m1a2 sep v3
Yes
... how come this shit is 56Ton and the Abrams is about the same, I thought that having less armor in the Hull would make it like 20% lighter... it's just a worse Abrams God damn it !!
W content. Nice to see.
I just noticed that you use a nickname, why? Didn't you say you don't like using one, I'm not quite sure.
I shot this thing in the side 6 times in all different spots while playing the 2s38 and i killed his loader....
Ahh The 4:3 Abrams
Bro I do work in this tank once you understand the tank how to use this tank does work
respect
Let's not forget that they also nerfed both A10s 30mm Avenger to only fire HVAP rounds, oh yeahhhhhh no Tungsten rounds, not even just AP, HVAP so we cant pen MBTs of 1000m top down, not to mention the a10 gets blown out of the sky bc its so slow, least they can do is add the later variants at higher BRs and give us the actual power of the cannon and stand off abilities. su25s are just sooooooooo much better.
There alot of bugs thus patch. Aloy of things are a lil wonky. I can't remember which map it was but there were building on the runway in air rb match I played yesterday 😂 n a few other small things
m60ambt big bro
This Is not abrams, Its abms
A Babrums (baby abrams) 😂
nice video
Yeah, just complain about ONLY having 2 A-10s in the game.
Look at what your planes can carry and how those ordnances can be used from the Moons orbit. With thermal imagers included.
Sometimes those release their payload soo damn high up, the game doesn't even render them in from the AAs perspective. Funny game limitation,
but they see the ground targets with thermals without issues.
All the A4s, Phanthoms, F-16s and other multirole stuff. If i only look at the U.S. techtree.
The russian planes can either do air-to-air or air-to-ground, while (except the SU-29) they suck at the other thing.
High BR ground RB as a whole is just a miserable steaming pile of crap at this point.
Specially with the amount of quitters "playing" there.
...and the amount of small, knife fight city maps.
short youself 8 rounds so all ammo is in the turret
Most op US tank in game
And it's dogshit
@@fajniedobrze923 indeed it is
Most of the update is reused assets
Cheer yourself up - go play the Fox
This games balance man. You can definitely tell it’s a Russian company.
skill issue buddy lol, russia only has the t90m and bmv at top tier which i would trade for a strv or leo any day
@@daftcow706 skill issue, bvm and t90m are much better than any leopard or Strv
@@Optimusprime56241Skill issue bud the BVM and T-90 have a worse reload, worse round, worse armor, and worse mobility, and worse weak spots that the Leo or Strv. If you are genuinely having trouble fighting a Russian MBT you are a joke.
@@TheArbiter1721 if you are having any trouble fighting shitty leo2a7 and Strv huge skill issue 🤣
Pattrams
This update is a straight 0/10
This tank does nothing to "balance" 10.0, its just another American tank designed to get russians more kills. IE the whole game is just for russian bias
Let's go
5 mind after upload
Mins
uy!
It doesn’t look right
To correct you justin the update is shit
Kinda "trash" update ngl...
this update sucks
What a stupid looking tank. With this and the "click bait" I think Gaijin is trolling USA on purpose. Why would they even bring something like this to USA? How about more IFVs or Spaa? Did anyone even request this stupid looking tank?
Doubt it
Please revisit the T-64B again! She's my favourite Soviet MBT! Thank you!
M60 120S with bad hull armor with bad mobility = T80UD with bad reverse speed and no thermal
Yeah perfectly balanced
i see no problem with that .
Don’t forget about the kontakt 5 the t80ud gets. That stops anything from penetrating.
@@jacobchristen9446 me when i lie on the internet
@@daftcow706 kontak 5 at 10.0 will stop anything at its br besides the new 120s or the obj292.
@@jacobchristen9446 it will stop the 120s as well lmao