Cycling's New Problem: It's Too Fast | GCN Show Ep. 620

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  • @gcn
    @gcn  Місяць тому +12

    What do you make of pro cycling being "too fast"? 🚴‍♂💨 What should be done about it? 💬 Let us know down below 👇

    • @philipcooper8297
      @philipcooper8297 Місяць тому +3

      Well, the UCI regulation already sets the minimum weight of the bike. So, are they going to introduce the minimum tyre rolling resistance to slow everyone down?

    • @ronaldweed6103
      @ronaldweed6103 Місяць тому

      Speed signs? 😮 or electrical type speed sign....

    • @Phillip-hq1bv
      @Phillip-hq1bv Місяць тому

      Race marshals using radar guns and issuing traffic tickets?

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop Місяць тому

      (Road) cycling was too slow for too long. One could naturally evolve handling skills along their fitness. Talents were discovered by accident and competition resumed by grinding. But it wasn't moving the sport at pace other sports did. So now we have all possible recruitment schemes pulling football players, skiers and runners. Moving with coaches and doctors too
      That said, embrace for zwifters entering the local crit scene!

    • @harleypurcell7766
      @harleypurcell7766 Місяць тому +6

      Get rid of domestiques. Make it a free for all. All teams have all riders against each other.

  • @lesliereissner4711
    @lesliereissner4711 Місяць тому +59

    The new law of the Government of Ontario will not only affect existing bike lanes in Toronto but will essentially prevent new bike lanes from being constructed in the province as municipalities receive funding for this from that government. However, the fight over bike lanes is a diversion from Bill 212's primary function, which is to build more highways in Ontario. The 401, now considered one of the busiest highways in the world, was built in the 1950s to bypass Toronto. The 407 was then built (taking more than a decade) to bypass the 401. Now the 413 is being proposed to bypass the 407 essentially, while destroying the Greenbelt region around Toronto. The lesson of six decades that building more highways does not reduce congestion seems unlearnable.

    • @SamTheEagle1
      @SamTheEagle1 Місяць тому +3

      Unprofitable for the motor and oil industry. Cars are huge profits for the people controlling the country

    • @johnandrews3568
      @johnandrews3568 Місяць тому +19

      Not to mention that the gov't of Ontario, having built the 407 with taxpayer money (WAY over budget) then sold it off for pennies on the dollar to balance the budget for two years, giving up a massive cash cow that would have been making big money for the province for decades to come. Conservatives, the party of fiscal responsibility, indeed.

    • @phoffen3829
      @phoffen3829 Місяць тому

      Which will not stop a Conservative like Ford. He is stuxk in the 1940's mentality.

    • @lesliereissner4711
      @lesliereissner4711 Місяць тому +6

      @@johnandrews3568 They have never been properly held accountable for this disaster. The 407 lease runs for 98 years!

    • @ffskierdune6226
      @ffskierdune6226 29 днів тому

      @@lesliereissner4711 If you knew your history, then you would know that it was the provincial NDPs and Bob Rae who first negotiated the contract for the HWY 407. When the conservatives took power, they hired a team of hot shot Bay Street lawyers (my dad) to try and cancel the deal. The problem was the NDP did not read the contract properly. There was a $10 billion dollar cancellation penalty in the fine print. They could not cancel it. Instead the conservatives negotiated a purchase price and a stipulation that rates could only be raised if demand increased. My solution would be for everyone to boycott the 407 and bankrupt it and then buy it at auction for pennies on the dollar.

  • @ttriola1
    @ttriola1 Місяць тому +67

    I’m so excited I got to introduce the world famous GCN Show! Thanks for putting me on.

  • @willd5169
    @willd5169 Місяць тому +63

    A 12 year old with their whole life to live being killed while out on their bike by someone driving absolutely abhorrently. Brings a tear to my eyes, rest easy wee one 😢

    • @FTA38yearfreeride
      @FTA38yearfreeride Місяць тому +4

      Wil gets much worse with those EV. They are very fast silent killers.

    • @pennywood5653
      @pennywood5653 Місяць тому +5

      @@FTA38yearfreeride They're not silent.

    • @willd5169
      @willd5169 Місяць тому +4

      @@FTA38yearfreeride Majority of a vehicles noise comes from tire noise.

    • @Calum_S
      @Calum_S 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@willd5169 the noise depends on the speed tho, but yes above about 30mph you're right.

    • @FTA38yearfreeride
      @FTA38yearfreeride 29 днів тому +1

      @willd5169 lol , I have different experiences🤪

  • @eurobubble7068
    @eurobubble7068 Місяць тому +91

    how about not putting a 100km/h descent right before a finish. that day of the tour de suisse, everyone said, sh gonna happen. RIP Gino Mäder.

    • @eurobubble7068
      @eurobubble7068 Місяць тому +4

      same with the olympic games in brazil, everyone knew something is gonna happen on such a course, and voila, it happened.

    • @JonathanWhoever
      @JonathanWhoever Місяць тому

      ​@@eurobubble7068That was brutal!

    • @brothatwasepic
      @brothatwasepic Місяць тому +1

      And the world champion Taylor Knibb and even her mechanic crashed so many times

    • @FTA38yearfreeride
      @FTA38yearfreeride Місяць тому +3

      On top of a mountain, there is no money to be made, business kills people !!!

    • @larryt.atcycleitalia5786
      @larryt.atcycleitalia5786 Місяць тому

      Last time I checked, none of those type of crashes were caused by brake FAILURE. Maybe FAILURE to USE the brakes...but...everyone decides how fast to go or not to go as long as the brakes work.

  • @robertstacy4033
    @robertstacy4033 Місяць тому +13

    I believe the majority of cyclists are not all about speed and jumping red lights. They just enjoy riding their bikes. Group rides could be more considerate to the cars behind them might help not infuriate them. I find the majority of car drivers are very thoughtful and I always acknowledge them with a thank you as they pass.

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 29 днів тому

      I see a majority of cyclists jumping red lights. I couldn't tell about myself in fact, maybe 50%, and I'm not 20 anymore!

  • @supakidgalaxy
    @supakidgalaxy Місяць тому +32

    I just want to ride my bike and not get hit by a car (again) I’m not trying to make roads dangerous by riding in the bike lane or where I’m supposed to ride at the lack of a bike lane. My average speeds are usually around 17-18mph on my road rides…on these roads the car speed limit posted is 35-45mph I can’t see any way how my speed and squishy body is endangering these 2 ton metal vehicles

  • @BikeNorthSeattle
    @BikeNorthSeattle Місяць тому +50

    The interesting about Toronto is that the roads where Ford wants to remove all the bike lanes had terrible traffic BEFORE there were bike lanes, and that adding bike lanes did not result in worse traffic.
    It's a very well understood problem that adding more lanes for cars does not improve traffic - it only encourages more people to drive because getting around with other means become less practical. The result is, more traffic.

    • @philipcarson8438
      @philipcarson8438 Місяць тому

      But another segment in the same show says that bike lanes reduce speeds by 25%. Conversrly, one might expect resin to speed up if they are removed. Interesting paradox.

    • @ChrClausen
      @ChrClausen Місяць тому

      @philipcarson8438 Lower speed allows cars to drive closer. Therefore it may actually increase the capacity of the road.

    • @elizabethpoley6882
      @elizabethpoley6882 Місяць тому +3

      @BikeNorthSeattle Re: Adding more lanes for cars only increasing traffic. Yeah, we found that out in Los Angeles!

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. Місяць тому +1

      @@philipcarson8438 Cars MOVING at a slower speed is far better for drivers than not moving in a jam.

    • @ffskierdune6226
      @ffskierdune6226 29 днів тому

      Your last statement maybe true. But in Toronto it is more convienent to drive that to take transit most of the time. There must be a balance. Don't put the bike lanes on the busiest streets. Based on the layout of our streets there are many alternitives.

  • @blwnova4155
    @blwnova4155 Місяць тому +35

    Presenter’s wobbly table - bodge

    • @John-r9x5h
      @John-r9x5h Місяць тому +1

      Unstable tables

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Місяць тому +1

      Look: function:

  • @SystemParanoia
    @SystemParanoia Місяць тому +16

    Absolutely chuffed to get featured on Hack or Bodge 🥳
    Bungee 1 from drive side pedal through the wheel to seat stay
    Bungee 2 from rack to seat rail
    Bungee 3 from rack to non drive pedal.
    Without bungee 2 and 3 the towed bike will fall over.
    This setup has been doing the school run twice a day for the past 2 years 🚲🚲

    • @michaelw7438
      @michaelw7438 Місяць тому +2

      Brilliant! Very well done for an ingenious and practical solution to a real problem.

    • @SystemParanoia
      @SystemParanoia Місяць тому

      @michaelw7438 thank you. The hardest part is keeping up with my eldest on the road bike while giving the youngest a speed boost with my hand on their back!

    • @RedshiftDougal
      @RedshiftDougal Місяць тому +1

      Much respect. I like your style.

    • @criticalGuyIn
      @criticalGuyIn 29 днів тому +1

      awesome thank for this, gonna try this, how the front fork of race bike is attached to the bike rack.?, any kinda off the shelf part.

    • @SystemParanoia
      @SystemParanoia 29 днів тому +1

      @@criticalGuyIn its a qr fork mount off ebay, screwed to a piece of marine grade plywood.
      I then used x4 rubber lined P Clips to secure it to the rack

  • @goldenretriever6261
    @goldenretriever6261 25 днів тому +1

    Problem with bike lanes in Toronto is the general public in Canada view bikes as toys and not transportation.

  • @jarretgosbee7717
    @jarretgosbee7717 Місяць тому +16

    Strava, who built their company on people uploading their activities to their apps, refuses to share that data with other apps. I don't think I've ever used the strava app to record an activity.

    • @DrRusty5
      @DrRusty5 29 днів тому

      Exactly, this could and might backfire if say Garmin sort to apply it's huge resources to create a credible competitor to Strava (albeit I can't see them allowing uplands from other fitness products, eg Coros etc.. )

  • @andre9307
    @andre9307 Місяць тому +19

    Cyclists are not too fast, at least not on open roads. On average, they are much slower than cars. What makes cycling less safe is the lack of proper infrastructure, the big difference in speed compared to cars and the misbehaviour of motorists.

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 29 днів тому

      You do realize a bike is much less safe than a car, at equivalent speed. You realize that disc brakes were no designed for bikes, that will lose balance as soon as the wheels lock.

    • @andre9307
      @andre9307 29 днів тому +1

      @@DR_1_1 What is the purpose of the comparison with equal speeds? Cars and bicycles were not built for the same speeds. The main cause of danger on a bicycle is always the car.

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 28 днів тому

      @@andre9307 "What is the purpose of the comparison with equal speeds?"
      YOU made that comparison first: "Cyclists are not too fast, at least not on open roads. On average, they are much slower than cars"!
      So answer your own question...
      I'm saying that cyclists must take more precautions than cars, because their vehicle is much less secure than a car at equal speed, e.g. in fast descents with team motor bikes and car mixed with cyclists.
      Anyway most crashes happen in the peloton, without any car or motorbike, because they ride too fast too close from each others. Also in smaller groups. Descents...
      Again, disc brakes are the cause of many of these crashes, because they allow for later braking so the riders take more risks, ie drive closer, brake later, etc.
      Also you can easily lock the front wheel with disc brakes.

  • @roberthenri9945
    @roberthenri9945 Місяць тому +8

    The problem is e-bikes and e-scooters! The average pedestrian, car driver and/or politician CAN NOT tell the difference between an ordinary cyclists and someone rider a motor assisted device, and this is especially pronounced for rental units where riders don't have the skills or understand road safety or etiquette to be riding at the speeds their motor vehicle allows them. E-bikes in the city are too fast and are a real hazard and this spills over in to a negative perception of cyclists. Even crash statistics fail to differentiate and as such hide the dangers of e-bikes and make traditional cycling appear more hazardous then it really is. Simply put, we must make it clear that the two vehicle types are not the same and regulate motorized vehicles as is appropriate.

  • @FreddyEnergizer
    @FreddyEnergizer Місяць тому +31

    some observations I made here in the Netherlands as a Car Driver, ( and Road Cyclist) That as a car driver its very hard to see how fast bikes are going now days(specially wen you have to cross paths) , those in Lycra on Road bikes are quick and are quit obvious, but then there is grandpa going quicker on a normal looking E Bike , and a few kids on a fat bike that ride very erratic and even quicker without even pedaling,, and we got the speed bikes that are even quicker going 45k. (you expect the roady but you get something else) and just on average the speed of the average bike is up from about 15k to 20k plus. And on average those in Lycra are actually the ones that are paying attention and not behaving in such a way that I as a car driver would easily endanger them, I can not say that for the most other bikers on the road they are now days much harder to read and anticipate on. But observation from the other side is that wen I am in my GCN Lycra on my Canyon E7, that I get loads more angry car driver attention (blocking your way , sudden braking etc.) then the bikes around me. (Perhaps because we are more obvious) then I also notice that a percentage of the bikers around me mostly the students and younger that they are not paying attention at all and behave as if there is nobody else around , cutting corners , red light jumping , side walk using , wrong side of the road biking endangering themselves and sometimes me. ( okay lost in translation now lets post it anyway :P

    • @KelvinSuddith
      @KelvinSuddith Місяць тому +2

      I think your observations hold true here in Portland, Oregon USA, one of the more cycling friendly and oriented cities in the USA. It rarely seems to be the people who are in Lycra that ride erratically and dangerously. Even as a fellow cyclist, they scare me when they are close to my wheel

    • @adamweb
      @adamweb Місяць тому +3

      Rule #1: Whatever you're riding/driving, be predictable!!

    • @pinkyfull
      @pinkyfull Місяць тому

      Its well known that NOT having a cycle helmet on makes drivers drive more slowly and give more space. Unironically riding more unsafely actually makes you safer.

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 29 днів тому

      Another issue is e-scooters, they might look exactly like pedestrians when moving directly in your direction, so you don't expect them to come at 30 km/h when you change direction!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  24 дні тому

      Hey thanks for sharing your opinion, you have more than one valid point in it :D

  • @leomaduro8661
    @leomaduro8661 Місяць тому +16

    Generally, pro races having higher average speeds is not the problem. The problem is higher speeds made possible by larger gears going downhill. So many years ago, we were spinning out on big descents with a 53x12 or maybe 54x12. Now, it's easier to make higher speeds, with a 54x11 or 54x10, and disk brakes allowing braking late at the bends. Those terrible accidents this year taking down so many top riders were caused by very high speeds with a big bunch trying to make the front row. This is not the case in long descents where riders give each other the room they need. Riders and their managers do have a responsibility to avoid those situations that do not occur in all races

    • @FTA38yearfreeride
      @FTA38yearfreeride Місяць тому

      @leomaduro8661 The higher speeds are mainly the results of a broken points systems where domestiques racing for a top 20th place in a race .For 100 years, the leaders in the team were racing for the win, AND FOR THE WIN ONLY, Now, every idiot is trying to end in top 20 !!! So they end up racing like 12 year olds.

  • @Mr_Scott_Chegg
    @Mr_Scott_Chegg Місяць тому +15

    Caption competition: Like many retired pros, here's Cav showing us he might struggle to Lego of the past

  • @philiphumphrey1548
    @philiphumphrey1548 Місяць тому +5

    It's certainly not me responsible for riding too fast. My average speed recently is about 11 mph according to my bike computer. I'm just glad to be still going.

  • @DavidFritzIII
    @DavidFritzIII Місяць тому +5

    I ride safely everywhere I go. Was hit by a car a few years ago and now my daughter reminds me everytime I leave the house..."papa don't get hit by a car" and that reminds me to not ride unsafe.

  • @Aussie_stu
    @Aussie_stu Місяць тому +5

    Need to give the desk a bodge, it was as wobbly as Hank on a recumbent during Hacks/Bodges.

  • @roberteastwood6937
    @roberteastwood6937 Місяць тому +4

    Here in Finland we have quite a lot of "bike" lanes. They're really footpaths with one half marked off for bicycles. However. In cities this solution is for both pedestrians and cycles ( generally speaking). If you want to ride "fast" you'll use the road. The good point for the paths is that one can ride on them in the winter when road riding would be REALLY dangerous.

  • @sk8mike1021
    @sk8mike1021 Місяць тому +9

    If speed is a problem and the growing inequality of deeper pockets how about a Tour de France on a standardized beach cruiser with bucket helmets and a kit of jeans shorts and muscle tees?

    • @FTA38yearfreeride
      @FTA38yearfreeride Місяць тому

      @sk8mike1021 a little bit to WOKE, maybe ?🤔

    • @sk8mike1021
      @sk8mike1021 Місяць тому

      Ouch. I was thinking more Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.

  • @donjones3558
    @donjones3558 Місяць тому +2

    Lack of racers’ radios has proven to raise more safety problems than cures. Perhaps race organizers should reduce the number of motorcycles and even team cars if they want to improve safety. It also should go without saying: course design with less “furniture”, fewer pinch points, and better crowd control will do far more good than slowing the pros.

  • @The_BenboBaggins
    @The_BenboBaggins Місяць тому +4

    'Encouraging' people to cycle is pointless. We need to 'ENABLE' people to cycle safely and conveniently - that can only be achieved with significant investment in proper, viable infrastructure and changes in road laws to prioritise and protect people outside of motor vehicles.

  • @jabehauber
    @jabehauber 28 днів тому +1

    I spent a week on a business trip in Toronto and exclusively commuted using the public bike share. It was fantastic, fast, enjoyable and, due to the existence of those bike lanes, comfortable and safe. I can't imagine what Ford is thinking. Side note: the 403 to the west of Toronto - and its 16-20 lane width - is the most heavily traveled highway in North America (yes, more than Los Angeles) and is STILL bumper to bumper in rush hour. The problem there is too many cars, not bike. "Ford off" Ford. Ford is effed in the head.

  • @canadiandeplorable4512
    @canadiandeplorable4512 Місяць тому +3

    Im in the Vancouver (outskirts)area, all we need is a clean shoulder. Wont ride a skinny little lanes shared with two directions of slow wobbly riders , pedestrians or speeding scooters. I am forced to get yelled at riding in the car lanes with no shoulder. Most bike lanes are 15k. I don't ride at that speed warming up or warming down, and most commuters ride at 24 to 32 kph. The worst thing is when the big brains put in bike lanes, they put a grass divider to the roadway that takes up what once had a shoulder for cars to pull over when having issues us cyclist to ride in. Not to mention the green space that runs from the bike lanes across roadways to get to the other side on the lane. Cars pull out on the green part of the bike lane and over the hood you go......ooops my fault , Im riding to fast on a bike lane beside a well traveled roadway. SHOULDERS PLEASE !

  • @SonnyDarvish
    @SonnyDarvish Місяць тому +5

    A few years ago, I would have said to raise the minimum tire width to 30mm, but that's considered fast nowadays anyway.

    • @casualguy393
      @casualguy393 Місяць тому +1

      Not that it really matters for the majority of riders, wider tires are more supple and absorb energy dissipation on rough surfaces, but they are less aero. However, on smooth surfaces there might be a net loss in speed due to being less aero than 23mm tires.

  • @eyenoball
    @eyenoball Місяць тому +3

    my take on race radios is that it needs to be one way. too many DSes, away from the actual situation at the front of the race, are more interested in screaming at their riders to stick to the front instead of trusting their road captains to direct the team based on the actual situation on the ground. racecraft is dead thanks to 20+ DSes playing fifa from a kilometer behind the action.
    so, information only flows in one direction. riders receive updates about hazards ahead from the safety car and they'll make decisions, while riders can radio to their support cars but not the other way around. no one knows the race better than the aces and experienced road captains actually racing it, and how to respond to it.
    lbr, the only time it's actually been safe for a DS to get involved has been the support car driving the small(often lone) breakaway by their side.

  • @larter_larter
    @larter_larter Місяць тому +3

    I’d happily pay for a Saturday night filled with Connor’s dialect impressions. Absolute comedy gold!

  • @talariarl1235
    @talariarl1235 Місяць тому +13

    In Colorado, we have a newish law that allows bike to skip red lights when safe and ride through stop signs! This is great because everyone already does these things but now it’s legal! Bikes should not have to obey laws designed for metal boxes.

    • @FoobsTon
      @FoobsTon Місяць тому

      This comment probably encapsulates perfectly the state of the union.

  • @andrewvermeer2152
    @andrewvermeer2152 Місяць тому +15

    Your numbers on the cost of removing the bike lanes in Toronto is slightly off. You might be speak in USD, but in CAD the removal estimate is $48,000,000.00 and Toronto spent $27,000,000.00 installing them in the first place. The total figure is almost $70,000,000.00 CAD when all is said and done. Ridiculous.

    • @AndrewDarkes
      @AndrewDarkes Місяць тому +2

      What about the carbon impact of all the deconstruction and reconstruction and the subseqient reduction in sustainable transport. Thought we were in the middle of a climate emergency

    • @andrewvermeer2152
      @andrewvermeer2152 Місяць тому

      @@AndrewDarkes You wouldn't know it listening to this administration talk! None of this is even to mention that the conservatives won't be in power forever, and it's almost a certainty this bill will be repealed by a future administration at which point the lanes will probably go back in at even greater cost! Absolutely moronic and short sighted policy made to score easy votes from the carbrained crowd.

    • @phoffen3829
      @phoffen3829 Місяць тому

      That is absolutely the last thing on Fatso Ford's mind, if at all.

  • @Nehpets1701G
    @Nehpets1701G Місяць тому +2

    They could restrict gear ratios to somewhat slow them down on certain flat / rolling stages.
    For example 15 tooth smallest on the rear, 51 largest on the front type of thing.
    The only way I can think of capping performance in a subtle way that doesn’t ruin the whole show.
    But.. that's not going to be popular.

    • @larryt.atcycleitalia5786
      @larryt.atcycleitalia5786 Місяць тому +1

      Good point! NOBODY needs to grind away on a 58 X 9 or some other wacky ratio. 53 X 12 used to be plenty..why not make that the limit?

  • @hughwilliams5995
    @hughwilliams5995 Місяць тому +1

    Self-supported Tour de France? Bring it on! Panniers for the jim jams and toiletries- book your own campsites- get your food from shops and cafes etc. This would sort out some of the prima donnas. Though Pogocar would still win of course...

  • @WalterDill-d9j
    @WalterDill-d9j Місяць тому +1

    On the contrary Conor, I would be much more interested in watching self supported bike races. Alternatively, all team cars behind the last rider (and to keep from there being professional stragglers, any rider falling behind more than x miles is out of the race at that point).

  • @nateisright
    @nateisright Місяць тому +2

    The answer is wider tires. For “safety”.

  • @CharlesBallowe
    @CharlesBallowe 26 днів тому

    The solution to the speed of grand tours is to get rid of the cars and motorbikes on the route. Make the team carry all of their spare gear. Domestiques can strap spare wheels/frames/tools to their back etc, and support the climbers and sprinters and others.

  • @rolandpickl5875
    @rolandpickl5875 29 днів тому

    About Singapore: its actually the Singapore Merlion (the official Mascot of Singapore) and lego set is Singapore architecture lego set, which shows all the famous buildings of Singapore.

  • @CarlosParadaP
    @CarlosParadaP Місяць тому +1

    #CaptionCompetition After retiring cycling Mark is giving Pokemon a GO !!

  • @leofred1860
    @leofred1860 Місяць тому +1

    I feel sorry for bikers on open roads in the UK. In the MN county I live in, many of the roads have wide paved shoulders that allow for safe cycling. Between the shoulders and bike trails. the relationship between bikers and drivers seems much less hostile than in the UK. There are still problems in urban areas but hardly any outside of the cities.

  • @jamesguppy483
    @jamesguppy483 Місяць тому +9

    Is Conor sat on the floor 😂

    • @betopedroza
      @betopedroza Місяць тому +1

      probably there is a hole in the floor and he is standing on the floor below the studio

  • @prestachuck2867
    @prestachuck2867 26 днів тому

    The whole point of racing is to be the fastest. They don’t need to slow down the riders. Racing is inherently dangerous. The riders know what they are getting into, and accept the risks, often enthusiastically (Pog and Vingo). Let the racers race.
    There is a solid case for removing all the team cars from the peloton. That change alone would be a tremendous improvement.😊

  • @nplm99
    @nplm99 29 днів тому

    Not sure about the UK, but in US west coast cities, the bigger issue is e-bikes and full electric scooters and one-wheels on bicycle/pedestrian paths. The ride share ones are speed limited and manageable. However, out here people are riding their personal ones, in full motorcycle kit, at 25-35 mph on signed 15 mph mixed use, motorized vehicle restricted trails.

  • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
    @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Місяць тому +2

    2:29 I’m so glad that all doping ended with Lance and we now have 100% clean cycling where only natural talent shines.

    • @casualguy393
      @casualguy393 Місяць тому +1

      Yep. Maybe one day they will think of a new bike design that is not only faster than a road bike but is even more aero than a TT bike. Wouldn't that be something?

    • @tobimaxx
      @tobimaxx Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @johnstrac
    @johnstrac Місяць тому

    Regarding average speed, mine has certainly dropped over the years but is higher when I get back into town but drops down as I ride through due to taking more care and being aware of others. This situation is not always reciprocated.

  • @DonutEndurance
    @DonutEndurance 29 днів тому +1

    Si: Zip tie = bodge, bit of wood and exposed nails = hack.😆

    • @gcn
      @gcn  28 днів тому

      We’ll never understand how the logic in their head works; it’s best not to even try.

  • @vanyabrodsky7904
    @vanyabrodsky7904 Місяць тому +1

    #CaptionCompetition Mark has a bigger smile on his face when getting toys, vs the 35th stage win

  • @mrsequin
    @mrsequin 29 днів тому

    There are two issues being discussed here; pro cycling and everyone else. With regards pro-cycling, motor sport has had an issue with increasing speeds for years and has responded with rules about technology (cars and tyres) and track design to keep racing fair, but safe. Cycling has to do the same and there are multiple options e.g. neutralised descents, minimum bar widths, banning DS's from comms whilst driving, placing limits on camera bike numbers etc. With regards everyone else, if the issue of delivery riders on unregulated ebikes is addressed, I suspect many complaints about cyclists will stop.

  • @jefffixesit60
    @jefffixesit60 Місяць тому

    I’ve been saying for decades that team cars are bad for bike racing, and cycling generally. It’s supposed to be bicycle racing, not hanging on to the team car or drafting back up to the peloton on the back of the team car. I like the idea of racing on more puncture resistant tires, I think we mere mortals would benefit from durability being part of successful racing equipment (that we then rush out to buy, so we can be like our racing heroes! 😂). Ride far, ride fast, be happy!😎❤️

  • @robertadair6612
    @robertadair6612 Місяць тому

    The safest way to affect speed/safety in professional bike racing is to have a minimum tyre width, lets try 40mm minimum.

  • @chrisjong8412
    @chrisjong8412 Місяць тому +1

    I used to live in that part of Amsterdam where the cycling lane was improved, i rode there laat week again. It already was good but now is much better, i love living here ❤

  • @PaulTaylor-o9s
    @PaulTaylor-o9s Місяць тому +1

    Make these safer on the open road by having more police on the streets to clamp down on people riding without lights on and off pavements. Those type of casual cyclists give more serious and considerate cyclists a bad reputation. There should also be more information in the driving tests about the importance of giving way and being considerate for pedestrians and cyclists.

  • @philipaddyman7402
    @philipaddyman7402 Місяць тому +6

    Just this week you were promoting a ridiculously fast chain gang on public UK roads ......

    • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
      @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Місяць тому +2

      It wasn’t especially fast to be fair. They didn’t post the average speed. 🤔

    • @larryt.atcycleitalia5786
      @larryt.atcycleitalia5786 Місяць тому +1

      Good point! I've seen plenty of these "Saturday Morning World Championship" rides end up in mayhem as riders blast through intersections ignoring traffic signals and stop signs among other bad antics. Great way to infuriate the motoring public boyz!

  • @RidleyFamily
    @RidleyFamily Місяць тому +1

    They have a point about the racing at speed through built up areas, GCN have been guilty of this several times. I remember Hank in a couple of London episodes racing the other guy point to point and back....

  • @coachjohn
    @coachjohn Місяць тому

    Caption: All my Christmas Shoping done and all I had to do was beat EVERYONE to the store. Lucky I'm the GOAT of the sprint. Thanks Cav for the memories

  • @mattthomson162
    @mattthomson162 29 днів тому

    Definitely a big thumbs up for reduced support. Too many cars and motorbikes causing issues.

  • @Stephen-nq5kd
    @Stephen-nq5kd Місяць тому +18

    The explosion of indoor training has created a jump in riders strength and a drop in riders skills from the lack of outdoor training.

    • @ebikescrapper3925
      @ebikescrapper3925 Місяць тому +3

      Some people on mobile phones seem to have lost the ability to look left or right when they are on a shared cycle path / road. I wonder if people have become used to looking straight ahead when indoor training they have unconsciously developed a similar type of habit. They have lost the instinct to look left and right when on a bike and in foot and car traffic

    • @Nehpets1701G
      @Nehpets1701G Місяць тому +1

      I think you are correct, indoor training has made the average hobby cyclist a far bit faster in my local area.
      The Strava KOM times for the heavier riders in my area have been plummeting in recent years 😮

    • @Andy_ATB
      @Andy_ATB Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, far too many think cycling is just about watts, FTP, etc It isn't; there is a skill element, even in road cycling.

    • @calvinhorner2734
      @calvinhorner2734 29 днів тому

      @@Andy_ATBthat sounds like something someone with a low ftp and w/kg would say

  • @lukejanelle
    @lukejanelle Місяць тому +2

    #captioncompetition Mark Cavendish completing side quests before his retirement

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 Місяць тому

    about bike commuting in true winter metro environments: keep in mind that snow removal is an issue - plows normally displace snow to the side of the roads. bike lanes are often placed to the sides of our roads. and while bike lanes are impassable by snow, they certainly help cause congestion in winter time. and the cost of snow removal for stand alone bike paths is very very expensive, and often impractical. I dont know how urban Toronto bike lane infrastructure is located relative to traffic and snow removal, but the fact is, riding is greatly reduced in winter conditions. where I live, bike lanes are cleared at some point after storms.... and you do not see canyon and typical fru fru GCN road bikes in winter, ever. no lycra either.

  • @bradleywhitehurst2563
    @bradleywhitehurst2563 Місяць тому +2

    episodes like this make me wish there was a GCN NA channel.

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 Місяць тому +1

    I'm assuming Si survived the hardest workouts. Unless Killien was able to get a fully functional fully interactive version of Si working faster than the Uploader.

  • @jasonhutchinson8060
    @jasonhutchinson8060 22 дні тому

    I generally make it a rule to avoid cycling with any group that frequently quote their Watt output. I am here for the fun of riding and the luxury of having a great bike to ride. To take in the view. Listen to an old album from my teens. Smell the grass I pass. Perhaps stop and smoke some. It certainly goes well with Depeche Mode.

  • @eddjcaine
    @eddjcaine Місяць тому +2

    As if I watched to the end and you didn’t actually explain the table! Still I expect it’s a new studio, which GCN tech mentioned in their video…

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Місяць тому

      Those snitches!

  • @jockdoc07
    @jockdoc07 Місяць тому +3

    Please bring back Dan (just my opinion).

  • @DavidFritzIII
    @DavidFritzIII Місяць тому +2

    Connor even has a giant computer compared to Si... how fitting

  • @CheeseAlarm
    @CheeseAlarm Місяць тому +1

    What's that you say Monsieur Desgrange? Get rid of gears. Get rid of team cars. Make em do their own repairs. Yes, that should slow them down. Merci Henri!

  • @bihlygoat
    @bihlygoat Місяць тому

    Most bad crashes I’ve seen in races are 100% the organizer’s fault. Narrowing roads without warning, traffic furniture, hairpins right before a sprint finish,…

  • @FHRider-o1m
    @FHRider-o1m 27 днів тому

    Love the bike towing hack, precarious but that’s how great ideas begin 👍

  • @danstefanson2302
    @danstefanson2302 Місяць тому

    I ride almost every day (commuting, training and racing) and on almost every ride I am endangered at least once by a vehicle driver, often with them purposeful "sending a message to me" with their vehicle - so that is my bias here. However, early in the show when talking about Doug Ford's approach to bike lanes it was indicated that there is no evidence that bike lanes add to congestion, But later in the show it was mentioned that a study found that bike lanes slowed vehicle traffic thereby improving safety conditions - in other words creating vehicle congestion. I really think that answer here is for cyclist to recognize that emerging multimodal transportation does reduce the priority for vehicle traffic, especially single occupant vehicles. If we recognize this and show some empathy and maybe even provide some helpful suggestions about how all modes of transport can co-exist we can begin to shift the "war-on-bikes" rhetoric to something like "we can design transportation that meets the needs all users, and that all users can participate equitably". I know that it is a complicate issue, but the conversation is simply stalled as we have all become entrenched in our positions.

  • @mcorbett01
    @mcorbett01 29 днів тому

    In London delivery riders on e-bikes can be a real problem. Many are very considerate but a few are not, riding dangerously fast particularly in pedestrianised areas. The culture of the delivery companies and the rates they pay are almost certainly a factor.

  • @jerrychicken967
    @jerrychicken967 25 днів тому

    I think they can finish sprint stages outside the towns, on large roads then they can have a neutralised zone after the finishing line which can loop through these towns (who've paid the tdf/Giro or whatever the race). The riders can do a nice warm down and chatting etc and congratulating the winner. May be nice to be TV with seeing the riders chill out after a sprint plus the helicopter shots of the town. The riders usually go on a turbo so will save the turbo being used. 👍

  • @TheBigCK510
    @TheBigCK510 Місяць тому

    Self-supported Grand Tour? It's been done: Lachlan Morton's Alt Tour in 2021. Just add 169 more riders and make sure local stores en route stock plenty of sandals in a range of sizes plus bins filled with extra platform pedals. If that's too extreme for the pro peloton, add back support and organizer vehicles only, remove all media vehicles and replace them with drones to capture live footage.

  • @TheTubaEmporer
    @TheTubaEmporer Місяць тому +1

    Don’t decrease speeds , increase safety

  • @wotexpat9367
    @wotexpat9367 Місяць тому +1

    Singapore: That building is the Marina Bay Sands (MBS)... There is a fantastic bar at the top.

  • @ryuujinusa
    @ryuujinusa Місяць тому

    A self-supported grand tour would be interesting. Still going to need cameras to film them, but they can't 'help' the riders.

  • @lilbruin
    @lilbruin Місяць тому +1

    Looking forward to see the big table reveal. (Hopefully better than those clunky microphones that were there for a minute :-)

  • @yet-another-generated-username
    @yet-another-generated-username Місяць тому

    The UCI could easily reduce race incidents and accidents:
    - by implementing their existing safety regulations, and sanction non-compliance,
    - banning VIP vehicles from the peloton.
    Then involve anyone with skin in the game in further thinking.
    Easy and cheap.

  • @rodkirk5667
    @rodkirk5667 Місяць тому

    Err, the wooden derailleur hack/bodge has been submitted before, over a year ago, by me 😂 Good to see it’s still a hack! 👍

  • @my4cars528
    @my4cars528 Місяць тому +1

    I don't stay at lights and instead try to stay out of the way of traffic. Most drivers would rather be able to go around you than you cork up traffic. But, as you say, I try not to be an obnoxious and obvious jerk about it.

  • @ricf9592
    @ricf9592 Місяць тому

    There's always a risk if domestic riders try riding fast on open public roads that concentration levels drop due to a red mist approach. Also, traffic at junctions don't expect to see a push bike approaching at 40km/hr and assume they have plenty of time to pull out. Bikes should all have a flashing front light. Why? A driver mentioned to me that a flashing front light can't be missed and is the one sign it's someone on a bike. Nothing else uses a flashing front light. There's no excuse for saying, 'I didn't see them'. Rear flashing light as well. Be seen at all times. Daytime lights. Respect the laws and rules of the road. I give way at all times to traffic. I let them go first at traffic lights and tag on behind before the lights change. The drivers certainly appreciate this.

  • @Faustoverdenova
    @Faustoverdenova 27 днів тому

    I watched this video on the Trainer rolling around Wattopia . And just for the fun of it, every time Si said "Wicked" I put in a 110% Effort for 10 seconds . Quite a workout it was ..

  • @JeffreyErnst-m5r
    @JeffreyErnst-m5r 27 днів тому

    I think getting rid of race radios would help slow things down

  • @kevingregoire1042
    @kevingregoire1042 16 днів тому

    Great Urban design content GCN, thank you !!!

  • @leJLJ
    @leJLJ Місяць тому

    At least here in southern California you have to ride aggressively and fast at times because people in cars or ebikes/mopeds won't be respectful or take you into consideration. It sucks but sometimes you just have to but its not for everyone you have to be quick to avoid accidents or be willing to bunny hop over sidewalks or obstacles

  • @JonathanHill-q6x
    @JonathanHill-q6x 15 днів тому

    Longest GCN show laugh for quite a while. Connor tying himself in knot trying to do Yorkshire accent and then Si rattles it off like a native (almost). I'm sure the good folk of Englands largest county will take it in the spirit that it was intended

  • @catherinebrennan3342
    @catherinebrennan3342 Місяць тому

    That wooden derailleur is a hodge-bodge. Brilliant.

  • @AustinIsTheGreatest
    @AustinIsTheGreatest 25 днів тому

    That bike transporting other bikes as a hack feels like something I would create. I love it but it looks horrendous. I've been thinking about adding some kind of contraption to my ebike to transport my road bike to the bike shop

  • @StacyODell
    @StacyODell Місяць тому +4

    Semi-self supported racing: no vehicles, radios are ok to call ahead for spares, but only available at designated resupply stations. Every rider runs cameras fore and aft, and only helicopters and drones (and the rider cameras) are used for filming.

  • @jonathanzappala
    @jonathanzappala 28 днів тому

    If they wanted to, there could be a maximum gear limit, but the sport is inherently dangerous at some level, unless it was restricted to walking speed.

  • @cyclingcollectiveportugal
    @cyclingcollectiveportugal 25 днів тому

    We can't forget why traffic lights were created, they were created because of the danger cars represent to other road users, not because of ciclists. When speaking about this subject we should always keep this in mind, despite cyclists are obligated to follow the road code is important to make a clear distinction between the two and their impact in the safety of our streets.

  • @vernepavreal7296
    @vernepavreal7296 Місяць тому +1

    I am a blind subscriber however perhaps for your podcast listeners as well could the presenters please introduce themselves I do know one or two of the voices but sometimes I am left guessing thanks keep up the good work cheers

  • @GigliolaValeria
    @GigliolaValeria 26 днів тому

    I think they're probably referring to e-bikes. I recently had to do a bit of commuting around Leeds and although there are bike lanes it was proper madness with people riding these monster e-bikes that go so fast that are like motorbikes and I didn't even see people pedalling on them and they are going at crazy speeds! Most of them as well didn't have lights on even though it was dark and a lot of them were jumping red lights and going against the traffic as well on the bike lanes.. and don't get me started on the e-scooters. I got so stressed and overwhelmed on my bike and I'm an experienced bike rider. The whole situation in England is really maddening and sad, every time I'm out on my bike seems like everyone (cars and pedestrians) really seem to hate cyclists. I love riding my bike and when I went bikepacking in Europe it was a cycling paradise. It's sad because it makes me not want to ride my bike here in England as most of the time I come back home really stressed and angry. I mean we can go on and on.. feels like a lost battle really.

  • @mikeb_2wheels517
    @mikeb_2wheels517 Місяць тому

    What if the UCI brought in rule with minimal tyre width/ specific tread. Example: If the tour was on gravel bikes, riders are more comfortable and going slower and safer

  • @ClimbingEasy
    @ClimbingEasy Місяць тому +1

    You can still tell that the Lance Armstrong thing still hurts quite a bit.

  • @randomradon
    @randomradon Місяць тому +1

    #captioncompetition we don't grow up, the bikes just get bigger and more fun

  • @AirSpace
    @AirSpace Місяць тому +1

    Better check on that GCN branded table shipment before making promises!

  • @jameslee-pevenhull5087
    @jameslee-pevenhull5087 Місяць тому

    Tour de France speeds. Extrapolate the curve and you will see when the speeds no longer rise.
    In Juniors, there is a gear length limit. I propose for road cycling racing, the gear Eddy had. 53 x 13 , 110 inches. Then let us see. Regina Extra Ti. 13 - 21 6 speed. Still got a bike with this.

  • @iansingleton
    @iansingleton Місяць тому +1

    Please, please, please do not attempt to copy my beautiful accent ever again! I, like most Yorkshiremen, take offence to anyone trying to impersonate us even though Simon's was very good! 😂😂 Not sure about Conor's attempt, maybe he should stick to - Irish??? 😂😂😂

  • @christill
    @christill Місяць тому +5

    The UCI should do something like what Japanese Keirin does and limit the technology in the bikes to make them slower and therefore safer.

  • @tonyo4984
    @tonyo4984 Місяць тому

    A self supported Grand Tour! Wasn't that what the TdF was all about when it was first ridden 121 years ago?

  • @marcelchaloupka
    @marcelchaloupka Місяць тому

    Disc brakes lockup at speed hence the increase in crashes that correlates with the introduction of disc brakes. Remove disc brakes the speed will somewhat drop and riders will start braking earlier instead of braking right in the corners. Disc brakes are the culprit