Are These as Good as Pretty Excellent? Owin/Aowin Budget Watercolor Review
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- When I saw these for sale on Amazon I couldn't resist because I thought they looked a lot like my favorite student watercolor "Pretty Excellent" so watch me as I compare the two sets and see what you think!
You can find the O.WIN watercolors here in sets of 24 or 35 in yellow, blue, and pink tins: amzn.to/3qG0FtW At the time of purchasing and filming the 24 and 36 color sets were priced the same. Be sure to select the color and size you want. the 36 yellow tin set sold out after I bought mine but hopefully is back in stock now. *affiliate link used
Owin watercolors: amzn.to/3qG0FtW
Pretty Excellent Watercolors: amzn.to/3GHSlQc
Pros:
Very transparent (except for the lavender and yellow ocher colors)
Good color payout
Great color selection
Activated instantly
All colors in their own individual half pans that can be rearranged if desired *the half pas are wider than standard but do fit standard tins as the height is the same.
Tin has a large mixing space
Comes with a waterbrush
Included swatch card and postcards to paint on
Lightfast info included (although not sure if accurate on purples)
Cons:
The tin is larger than normal and the lid was a bit warped
White is a warm-toned translucent mixing white (as opposed to Pretty Exellent's cool and opaque white)
So what would I pick between the pretty excellent and the Owin? Well, the paint is identical except for the white. It comes down to your preferences in the tin. the smaller footprint of the pretty excellent set appeals to me more in practical use but having each color in it's own half pan is very appealing for making smaller travel sets. I think the Aowin set is a better value (if the price remains the same between the two sets) but you should really go for the layout that will meet your needs best. I also like the separate half pans as they are more durable so once the paint is used up I can refill them with tubes paints and use them in other palettes as needed. The bottom line is I like them both and I recommend them to anyone who wants a basic set of watercolors for a good price! You can click on the links below and compare for yourself:
Owin watercolors: amzn.to/3qG0FtW
Pretty Excellent Watercolors: amzn.to/3GHSlQc
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Hi Lindsay, thank you for the review. Owin/Aowen is the company that makes the Pretty excellence/Mei Liang watercolor (based on the info available on Chinese websites). I’ve always wanted to try the pretty excellence set but decided not to buy it as I really want to be able to reuse the tin and half-pans. I like the size of the owin set. I plan to use the tin as a bigger mixing tray 😆
Thanks for the review. I have the Pretty Excellent set that I bought because of your recommendation. I am happy with the paint and don't really care that they are in a molded tray. I appreciate you taking the time to compare sets and give us your take on the pros and cons and differences. You're great!
Thanks!
i ordered the pink one the same pink as my paul rubens i love paul rubens paints .thank you i used the last of my christmas gift card ,so almost free ,i love all your videos ,your voice always cheers me up
Glad to see this video was helpful to so many people in the comments. Its been helpful for keeping me awake during work lol
I can confirm that the Pretty Excellent paints are a proper half pan - I transferred the little blocks to Jackson's half pans to give away (I wanted to keep the tin 😅), and many of the paint blocks were actually a hair too *big* to fit in the pans.
I have no need for more paints, but I really like the size of these Owin pans - they look kind of like "three quarter pans", so to speak, maybe a bit smaller (two thirds? Idek 😂). I might well end up buying the set just for the tin and pans and give the actual paints away again, next time I'm in a crazy watercolor phase 😅
Thank you for the excellent review. I just received my set and I loved it!
Great!
I just clicked your link. It now says all the pallets are only 24. I'll go back to check later. Thanks for the review, I know how much you enjoy and recommend Pretty Excellent so I am excited for these. I could never bring myself to buy Pretty Excellent because of the plastic insert.
36 set has been sold out since a day after Lindsay initially mentioned them.
The 36 are back now, same price. :)
Great review! I absolutely love the expression on that fishes face. Beautiful paintings! Thank you for sharing.
Excellent review,the goldfish, the cat, and the roses are so awesome Lindsay,loved it. "Goldfish so pretty,cat looking so sneaky,actually they are great friends."-Lynn ❤
Great video Lindsey I'm in love with your goldfish painting tyfs your thoughts on these watercolor paints.
Thankyou Lyndsey, I always find your monologs to be insightful and informative. Your upbeat style helps brighten my day!
Thanks!
I would love to see the goldfish tutorial/video. He is totally adorable! I ended up buying this palette when you showed it during Sat. Chat....I got the blue one though!
Ill post it soon!
@@thefrugalcrafter and the other one. Anything you film is worth watching, unless it affects your rating. Just bought a critique club year. Thanks for being here! If you weren’t online I would not get the encouragement to do it.
@@capbin146 thanks!
@@thefrugalcrafter Your welcome. It’s strange the hours a lot of us must spend in your company and being outside 🇺🇸. The wonder of this age. 👏
I would love to watch the goldfish video! I really like this format of your review. It’s interesting to hear your first impressions and then gradually what you think after you have become familiar with them!
Thank you for the tips on how to bend the palette so it will stay closed. Other than that I love the paints. I agree they are the same as the pretty excellent set which I’ve used a lot and really enjoy. I’ve gifted the pretty excellent to friends because I have enjoyed using them so much. I like that this set is upgraded with the individual pans though, it feels a little nicer. Thanks so much for the great review, you are always spot on!
Aww, thanks!
Love the paintings, especially the colors in the cat and background!
I very happy with the Pretty Excellent paints. I think it is a great value. Looking forward to seeing the artwork comparisons.
Oh the color of that case is just a reason I’d buy it alone ahaha. Can’t wait for your review.
Bless you Lyndsey , that's a wonderful review just in time for Valentine day gifts for young artists an travel bags on the go for them :)
Always very thorough and informative comparison videos . Thank you 🙏🏽 🎨
Very informative review. Thank you for sharing it with us. I just received the pretty excellent (from your recommendation) at Christmas and I am happy with it so I am not planning on getting the Owin especially since it is the same paints. Your paintings are beautiful. I see below you are going to post the goldfish video. I am looking forward to watching it!!
Thank you for the review. Your postcards are lovely!
Thanks for review. Please share the video of the gold fish, looks super cute.
Will do!
Hi Lindsay, I appreciate all the extra bits you put in this review (i.e. unboxing, hints on how to fix a few issues you had, etc). They are pretty, but I have enough paints for now. I know I'm probably an odd duck but I don't like the Paul Reubens set I have. I actually prefer the Cotmans set of 12. Again, I'm probably an odd duck but I prefer the smaller sets. The others have too many colors and it's easy to mix them up when using them. My favorite Watercolor sets to date are the Cotman and the Viviva sets. I'm thinking of getting a dot card for some professional paints and see which ones I like best and just buy the tube when I run out of what I currently own.
Thanks again for another informative and fun Watercolor review!
Thank you for making this video! I'm always interested in new products especially watercolors. I have the professional line of the Paul rubans and I hate to use them as practice( which is basically all I do at the watercolorist level Im at) but it's all I have. I wanted to get the pretty excellent but really didn't like the plastic insert and here is the solution. So I'm definitely getting a set of these. If my tin is a bit warped Ill probably just put a big rubber band around it if I can't straighten it out. Thanks for taking the time for all of your reviews it's greatly appreciated. Have a great day!
Yes post the fish drawing/painting🙂👍🏻
Your goldfish painting is adorable. It has a storybook look to it. I would love to see a video on him. :)
Love your reviews! Soooo thorough and you answer the questions we would ask if we had it. Keep up the great vids!!
Another great review! Thank you so much for the thorough information and honest opinion!
Another great review! I couldn't find the 36 pan set. I'd like to see the fish tutorial.
Thank you for the review. And love the cat and goldfish paintings 🥰😍 would love step by step video on the both of them.
Great reviews, thanks 👍🌺🌺🌺
You’re amazing Lindsay! Thank you 😊
I love the PE paint. Purchased on your recommendation. The molded pan does not bother me but, I have push them out and placed them in a standard half pan and it works. It does not come out. I did it with empty half pans sold in a tin palette. The empty PE tin can then be used for other things like sketching pencils, erasers. You then have two tin that can travel as well in less space. I don't know why O.win didn't do this to begin with. You're such fun to watch and learn from. I really appreciate you.
love the drawings/paintings
Love the review and love your paintings! and...I love the Pretty Excellent paint. I bought it from your review and they are just FUN paints! so pretty!
Great review Lindsay! Thank you!
So many great tips! LOVE your refill method for the water pen!! I must try the nifty refill bottle idea. And the water pen COMES WITH THIS SET! Sold me right there. Loads of niceties with this SET. I purchased the Phoenix watercolors awhile back from your review and totally believe you,,, there are only a few keys manufacturers and many major brand clients! You show us the "what it is" and this helps so much to be a FRUGAL shopper (I have to pay extra shipping and taxes/customs for international). Said all that to say this....
THANK YOU!!
Im happy to help!
Enjoyed your review. The yellow tin is cute and seems the most popular. Thanks Lindsay 😊
Omg I'm soo excited to see this. I was thinking about asking you if u could try to make a review video about these. I decided to just go ahead and buy them without the review because they were so cheap. Thank you so much for all the help u provide..
Hi Lindsay
Thank you for another great review and comparison. Your paintings are beautiful. I really enjoy the variety of paintings you do.
Stay cozy!
Thank you for the review. I would have preferred no fancy box and a better quality tin. I already have the Pretty Excellent paints.
I bought 100 half pans for $7 on Amazon recently and found my old set of Pretty Excellent paints and removed the paints and put them into half pans…overflowing the half pans. The Paul Rubens student tubes paints I had were exactly the same and I removed the plastic holder and put the pans in with small magnets (that I buy in sheets and cut/attached to each). I filled it full! Lol! Scrap the plastic in Pretty Excellent and use inexpensive pans!
Okay first i love that fish painting! Please do a tutorial for the fish...I love the kitty piece too! But the fish is my fav!! Great video, thanks for sharing and much ❤
Very interesting. Thanks for the review. 🙂
I'd really like to see the fish tutorial please!
Hi Lindsay! So I was not able to order these in the UK, which did bum me out. I like the larger palette space and the yellow color. BUT I was able to order the Pretty Excellent set for £16 on sale! I had hesitated at first because I'm not nuts about the one-piece pan, but at that price...I can work with that or replace it with halfpans.
I have a mix of W&N student tubes and half-pans but don't have some of the colors I want, and mixing is still a work in progress for me lol. It's either fabulous or mud. Also your recommendation as a favorite budget brand stuck with me too. The colors seem so bright and fresh. It also will be helpful for following along to your classes or tutorials where you used the same paints.
So while I couldn't get this one, I was able to get another from the same co that you enjoy and recommend, and I appreciate your review! Thanks!
I will have to say that I lovingly blame you for my budget watercolor collection. I now own 1 palette of Artsy Metallics (24 color set), 2 Pretty Excellent palettes (36 color set), 1 Pretty Excellent + Metallics (48 color set), 1 Owin palette (36 color set). I DO NOT regret anything, hahahaha. I loved the Pretty Excellent enough that I bought another as a travel journal set, hence the 2 sets. I don't mind the plastic tray. It's not ideal, but it does help cut down the size of the tin, making it ideal for my travel journal bag. I'm very sad that they no longer sell the Artsy metallics, though. I'm too cheap to want to pay for the Paul Reubens just for the brand name and packaging. Thank you for your recommendations!!!
So fun! I love these paints!
Oops, one more thing…I’m loving the position of your goldfish and would reallllly like to see that video!
Will do!
Thank you for the very informative review Lindsay. It’s very helpful to hear the honest opinion of someone so well respected in the watercolour world. I would love to see the goldfish video/tutorial.
Will do!
There’s definitely QC/batch variation issues. Quite a few of my colors are slightly off from yours. Like, the corner 4 reds are all less vibrant, verditer blue is very pale, and sap green is more yellow. Stuff like that. Even my browns are slightly different - speaking of, I’m surprised at the low pigmentation of my earth pigment colors, hard to get a rich color. I’d have thought those would be cheap pigments but I guess not.
My cerulean is more rich, reminds me of the Cotman Intense Blue. This Intense conversely reminds me of my favorite Prussian blues. And what the heck is a Turkey blue anyways?!
I do love that lemon yellow, stronger than what I’m used to (for a yellow it’s decent). Cadmium orange hue is great. No bright red though, my reds are muddy almost. Love the green section and the ultramarine though. And the cerulean. Cobalt I assume it’s a hue cause I think that’s an expensive pigment. Overall, I’m not sure what pigments are in here but hopefully their 2 star means at least a month or two at full sun! Lol.
Thanks Lindsay 🌸🌿
I bought the pretty excellent after your review and ended up taking them out the plastic and putting them on empty half pans with magnets. they are perfect!!
Please post the fish video and the rose would be lovely as well. Just ordered the pink palette, I’ll let you know if it’s any sturdier than the yellow. Thanks for all you do.
Thank you for your thoughts on the paints. Would love to see how you did the fish. He is cute.
I'll post it!
Thanks for the review! I am one of those people who never ordered pretty excellent because I dislike the plastic insert. Also thank you for showing how to put the pans in the pallet. I try to explain that to people sometimes, now I just can just send them to this video.
It’s pretty easy to pry the pans out of that insert if you still want the pretty excellent set. I think the quality of the tin is much better than this one.
Thank you for the review, Lindsay. I was going to get these because, like you, I liked the yellow tin. After reading amazon reviews I decided to put it on hold. I am very satisfied with my Pretty Excellent paints, and since the yellow tin seems to be a bit less quality, I have decided to pass on these. I don't need the half pans and the size of the tin is a little large for my workspace.
On another note, I would like to see the videos of the roses and goldfish. 👍😃
Thank you for the review, much appreciated. I would Love to see a tutorial on the fish, its adorable and i have 5 of them, so Please Do!
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Mine warped as well. I'll probably just keep a rubber band around it and it will be fine. It was definitely worth the price.. thank you again for the review. I don't usually buy a new palette without getting your opinion
I closed the box and pressed down on tbe lid and now it seems fine.
I never got the Pretty Excellent set, but bought these when you first mentioned them. The paints are great, I have the same issues with the palette, but I stick some foam under the lid so it doesn’t bounce around. I wonder if the OWIN company had a bad run of those palettes and decided to dump them at a low price on Amazon. I don’t really care, they are just for fun!
It might be because the 36 set ic $62 on Aliexpress! The 24 set if $45!)
@@thefrugalcrafter WOW! We got a good deal!
@@thefrugalcrafter I can't find the 36 set on Amazon even after searching. I really need that huge tin!
@@kellywilson2147 the size of that palette looks the same as Paul Rubens student grade watercolors. Lindsay did a review of it. It’s a big dark blue palette. I have two and it’s so convenient just for holding many full pans:)
I literally had these in my cart and FOR ONCE decided to be practical and wait until I saw your review and I’ve missed out! LOL That will teach me to not try and be practical anymore!
Oh no!
I’m with you - I want a yellow tin! I’d love to see the cat filmed and the salt used. I used your link to buy it. I might try to put my pretty good paints in half pans and put the 12 that won’t be in my 12 yellow tin in my tin and send the remaining 24 to a friend who’s son is just starting to experiment with watercolor.
Good idea!
I think I might actually like these more than the Pretty Excellent ones, but I do agree that the palette is a bit big and a little too flexible...cheap, thin metal, I'm guessing. Thank you, Lindsay for telling us things that might never occur to some of us. Your reviews are always helpful and useful and very much appreciated. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
MeiLiang 36... I just checked online, and the new sets do come in pans! Currently just under $18.
...well, it shows them in pans. I'll follow up when it gets here.
Thanks, enjoyed it. It was very informative. 👍Lovely paintings! It’s lucky the cat is facing the other way or he may have had that cute little fish. 😬
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Mine came scratched and wonky but I do love the paints. I don’t have pretty excellent so I bought these and I’m happy with the purchase.
This review was pretty excellent ;p Thanks🙏
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O see. Not just my memory that find the properties similar to white nights. I don't have the sonnet but I guess that is a better comparison indeed.
I’m binging your student grade comparisons. I think the reason they don’t pinch the pan track is because some paints come wrapped and would be hard to get out. Your palette isn’t ready to go until you have unwrapped, if necessary, rearranged if necessary, added or deleted if necessary… not coming pre-pinched allows for and invites that customization.
And… now I have ordered Pretty Excellent because you can get them in pans now. You are a dangerous woman! ❤
I just ordered the Owin in yellow, so I’ll let you know how well I like it. I was tempted to get the blue one, but it’s not my preference of blue. Lol I know it’s silly, but I like a more aqua or minty blue. I already have the Paul Ruben’s in pink. Haha, all that to say, I’m really more interested in the paints and they seem to have pretty good reviews! Speaking of iffy tins but loving the paints. I love the Mozart Komorebi set, but hate the tin.
Same!
I would love to see the fish tutorial!
I have watched so very many of your reviews ot tons of things. Thank you!! I've been putting off buying some watercolors but think I'm going to breakdown and try. I'm a stamper/crafter and just think this would be fun for stamped images. I like the idea of the removeable 1/2 pans to make my own small trays to travel. Since the 36 in these aren't available right now, what would you recommend next after that?
The 36 pretty excellent set honestly even tho they are not in removable pans. It if you wasn't removable pans any of the sets that superior makes (artify, artsy or art whale) are pretty good. Actually the doodlehog 36 set is superior paint and was $10 last I checked!
Hi Lindsay! I just had the Owin set delivered today and the tin is definitely wonky. I’m going to try to bend it around some to see if it helps. I got the blue one so it just wasn’t the yellow. Did you ever get yours bent to shape?
Yes, I was able to pull out the bottom then push down on the top to get it back into shape. It's fine now.
I ordered the pink 36 last week when you posted. The plastic holder was crunched, as well as the lid is warped and won't stay down. I returned mine, since I purchased for the pallet. :(
Oh bummer:( I wonder if these were 2nds or something. It will be interesting to see if they stock it again.
I'm thinking the same thing. Wish I would have watched your review before I sent the tin back.. I am curious if I could have gotten the tin to flex back into place like you did. :)
Anyway, thanks for all of your reviews! I love listening to you, since I was born in Portland Maine, but live in Portland Oregon now. Miss that Maineard accent. :)
Are the Pretty Excellent watercolors like the Paul Rubens watercolors? I mean, I know they have different pigments, but does the formula feel and flow the same?
Your kitty and fish look lovely, btw.
Not really as all the Paul rubens colors have their own personality. They are more "meaty" is the best way I can describe it but colors like quinacridones and pthalo are similar.
Please post that cute fish. Can you show us how you drew it too. That is an area I need to practice. Thanks
Sure!
My Paul Rubens tin is domed and doesn't stay closed well just like the Owin tin in your video. Looks to me to be the same quality tin.
Interesting. My shuts well. Someone mentioned when the dies that cut and press the metal get old they can get wonky.
I actually took my pretty excellent paint out of the plastic and put them into half pans so you’re right they are the same.
Lindsey, please, how do the Paul Ruben watercolors compare with these Pretty Excellent watercolors? Do I understand correctly that the Ruben palette that is pink is the professional-grade and the blue box is the student grade? Thank you so much!
They are all lovely but with the Paul rubens in the pink tin you will find that each color has its own personality (some granulate, some done, some are more transparent etc) which I love but might be frustrating for a beginner. The pretty excellent (also made by Paul rubens) are more uniform. Very bright and transparent and my be pumped up a bit with dies yet surprisingly lightfast (see Kimberly crick's lightfast test) so they are good too. The student grade pans un the blue tin are a puzzle. They ate nice but my least favorite of the 3 but swatch out identical to the Sonnet paint by the makers of white nights. They even have the same color numbers. It's uncanny. There are more fugative colors in that set so if pick one of the other 2.
@@thefrugalcrafter Thank you so much, Lindsay. You are such a sweetheart. I so appreciate your help in my making good choices.
Did you say that a half pan or full pan would fit in this tine?
Either because the height of a half or full pan is the same and that measurement fits between the rails. The length varies.
Love the goldfish Lindsay , is there a tutorial on it ? The cat is also very cute and the background is beautiful . Thank you for your review on these paints xoxo
I'll post the goldfish soon!
@@thefrugalcrafter yay ❤
Would the white be enough contrast to white paper to do white flowers?
I don't think so
I purchased this set after hearing that this company owned Paul Rubens (I thought I did anyway). My tin is very nicely made and no hanky lid. I like this set and use it as my travel palette. One thing I may have missed and would like to know is the pigment information for each color. I couldn’t find it on the website, do you hav any information? I really appreciate your videos❤️
I don't have that info. Ill look tho! Update: i couldn't find pigmwnt info but these sets are on aliexpress for $62 for the big set and $46 for the small one! We got a deal!
Hi I am new here and this isn't about this video, but it was the most current so I thought you might see this. Is there any help for color Box pigment markers that haven't been used for a long time? How to refresh?
I've never used them but probably pigment reinkers would work.
Do you have a video on mixing watercolors? I can’t figure it out. I need a watercolor for beginners series.
This one will help: ua-cam.com/video/I6_CFsOX35g/v-deo.html if you want more help check out my "essential tools and techniques for watercolor" class at Lindsayweirich.teachable.com
I love the goldfish painting in your sketchbook! Is it recent? Do you have a video for it?
I'll have a video soon!
@@thefrugalcrafter Yay! Thank you!
Rewatching this to decide if I want to buy the set. Yellow vs pink…. That’s my current dilemma.
i got exited and ordered the 24 set for same price couldnt find the 36 pan set ,its pink and much smaller than your yellow on ,im still getting them
Enjoy! The smaller tin will probably be more sturdy.
@@thefrugalcrafter my cute pink tin is also wonky but i love it ,im painting lots also i like my 10 dollar doodlehogs,i like getting purples it has many
can you transfer acrylic tube paints to pans half or full pans??
No, they will dry out and be unusable
that lid looks wonky. Would be annoying for my adhd tic. I would fiddle with that lol. I Like the colors tho. Reminds me of the white nights, tho if memory serves me right white nights is somewhat brighter, but then again its an artist paint. Impressive transparency tho
And it looks like they only have 24 paint sets available now. No 36 sets.
I noticed that the Amazon website calls this set watercolor/acrylic. Does it act like acrylic paint????
No, it's a translation problem or keyword stuffing the title.
@@thefrugalcrafter oh, okay
I put my Pretty Excellent watercolors in half pans and they fit with a shove.
I had to do that too because the plastic tray was cracked when it arrived. I just popped the paints into half pans and double sided taped them to the tin.
Yes I did the same:)
Can't get them 😢
They sold out fast sadly
Bonsoir ça ressemble beaucoup à la marque que j’ai acheté sur ali express qui se nomme Paul Rubens, l’avez vous testé ?
These are made by the same company who makes Paul rubens. They are the student range.
@@thefrugalcrafter thank you very much 😙
I honestly don't understand why everyone's praising the MeiLiang watercolors so much. Ive been using their 48 colors palette for a week now and I don't like them at all. They don't blend well, they lift too easily, which makes layering and glazing really hard and frustrating. They just don't work for me. I never had any such issues with my Sonnet watercolors, not even the cheaper Meeden paints. Those are so easy to work with, even on wood pulp paper. The MeiLiangs are no fun at all for me. I'm never gonna waste money on them ever again. And I'm def not gonna listen to reviews anymore, but try them paints out myself instead.
I think they are great for student grade. Maybe you need to upgrade to professional paint to get what you are looking for.
@@thefrugalcrafter I dont think so. As I said, Im using Sonnet, which are also student grade. I have no issues with them. Even the cheap Meeden watercolors work better for me. I already ordered the Superior palette to compare it to the MeiLiang. But yeah, so far Sonnet and Meeden are much better, imo. I honestly dont trust Paul Rubens anymore after this. Ill stick to other brands. After Superior, the White Nights are next. I already have a feeling Im gonna love those, since I like the Sonnet paints a lot.
Were you able to find any pigment info?
No I wasnt:(
Don’t think they have anymore of the 36…
They are sold out:(
Oh, and the Chinese names…kinda makes sense but also all over the place. Turkey Blue is literally turkey blue. Crimson lake and CL deep are …ocean red and deep ocean red. Fair enough. Literal translations. Then you have cobalt and ultramarine, which use the chemistry makes for the element and color, respectively. And Diox purple became deep purple. Purple lake is just purple red - okay, fits. Mauve is Bright/fresh purple, which is actually a better fit for the actual color than mauve. Lol. They tried.
I’m trying to find out what pigment info is on this set. 🙃 Any clues?
You can check Kimberly crick blog. She has reviewed these and pretty excellent so if it's out there she will have it.
@@thefrugalcrafter will do, thanks!
@@thefrugalcrafter I am still trying to find it. But by the way, the 36 sets are all sold out in all three colors! Wow! So hopefully they’ll be back. I waiting just a couple hours too long. I’ll order another set when they are back, or look on Aliexpress.