Ok im sorry but your resolution argument doesn’t make any sense because of two factors. First, resolution absolutely matters when it comes to video bitrate which on the Air3s 130mbps compared to 200 mbps on the mavic 3 series. That equates to better video quality hands down on top of having a bigger sensor on the mavic 3 series. Second, if your posting reels/shorts/tiktoks on social media you want to go with the highest resolution possible so that you can crop in, zoom , etc. to give you a sensational vertical. The Air3s only gives 2.7K resolution on vertical video while the mini 4 gives you true 4K quality without having to edit. Now outside of that , give me a mavic 3 with 5.1k resolution and I crop it into something more than what the mini 4 offers it’s a no brainer. My last point is if DJI was able to do that with an air3s, just imagine the mavic 4 with a 4/3 sensor and variable aperture 😮
I disagree because the perspective you're sharing, while admirable and valid, fails to really step back and look at things how they were meant to be seen. We all get so bogged down in the "on-paper" specs and we forget the most important part of multimedia production is not whether or not the source file is 4K or 6K or 8K nor whether it had a bitrate of 130mbps or 200mbps...it's how it looks in a finished product. No doubt sensor size and bitrate differentials keep this close. But when you boil it down to this 4K vs. that 4K, that's what matters. What has the best look right off of the camera. Even with a smaller sensor (larger for the telephoto, of course), the Air 3S is a step up from the Mavic 3 when it comes to simplification of multimedia output. Plain and simple. I used to fall victim to believing if I wasn't shooting in log with the biggest sensors and the fastest processors that I was never going to be able to create anything professionally and aesthetically pleasing. I've only seen my quality of work increase after letting go of that concept and allowing the technology in my hands do what it was built to do best. All that to say, I appreciate yours and others perspectives on this. I don't think you're totally wrong in your assertions, but I think for platforms like these getting bogged down in the specsheet is a mistake. ALL OF THAT SAID, I think we both agree that, after seeing what the Air 3S can do, the Mavic 4 is going to be absolutely insane...
@@TheDroneGeek your literally proving my point because you as well as other creators will be jumping on that Mavic 4 bandwagon and how its going to be the greatest foldable camera drone( outside of the inspire series) ever created. Which will have a bigger sensor, higher video bitrate, variable aperture, etc. than the Air3s hands down end of story that is a fact. Sure, better processing is just icing on the proverbial cake but be honest are you gonna using Air3s more or less if the Mavic 4 was released tomorrow? 🤔 🤣 I have a mavic 3 pro and Ill tell you this if any mavic 3 pro owners are considering selling their units to get an Air3s? You are smoking some high quality stuff and I want some 🤣
@@TheDroneGeek also not to knock on the Air3s but the image coming out of it is processed if you get what im saying like straight from camera with a social media filter on it. It’s a little too warm which is a product of the processing but the Mavic 3 Pro can be a little too cool again negligible nip picking. also, a big knock Night Time Footage is lacking big-time but what do you expect? I’m used to a 4/3 sensor which handles Night Time shots better so it’s not fair to the Air3s but you started by comparing it the King of Drones 👑 so it’s fair game 😂
Resolution absolutely does matter! But I think what we were trying to get across was that it doesn't matter quite as much as people make it out to and often as video and drone enthusiasts we get hung up on spec sheets rather than what the final image looks like. HOWEVER, I've got a feeling this is far from our last video testing out the differences between the Mavic 3 and Air 3s. Chris and I have something special cooking up in the next few weeks, and I'd love to do a "Pro" video settings comparison. Perhaps "Air 3s 4k Dlog-M vs Mavic 3 5.1k Dlog"
@@peacefulthrillseeker actually, the way I see it is the Air 3S does more with less than the Mavic 3. Lower bitrate, lower maximum resolution, smaller sensor size...yet it still manages to punch above its weight class! The Mavic 4 will have all of the bells and whistles of the Air 3S plus more...so obviously it will be the better drone. The point we're making is that just because the Mavic 3 can shoot 5.1K doesn't immediately make it a better drone than the Air 3S. In fact, we feel quite the opposite (obviously, as we stated it in the video)...the Air 3S is our pick over the Mavic 3.
Its hard to tell which is truly "better" but the warmth of the video made it a bit more difficult to tell. I do think the Mavic has better color reproduction / separation. For example the lake water color but Its actually surprinting how different they look tbh. Air 3S Trees do look great. They both are fantastic though... Only certain conclusion i can draw is you can't beat the Air 3S value right now. I would love to see the Air 3 vs 3S too.
Honestly I was shocked at how different the white balance was. We shot these both at 5500k. It's something I want to experiment with and see at what Kelvin the Air 3s matches the Mavic 3.
Fixed some bugs - it does not GET more exciting than vasecomized Tse Tse Fly, I am here to tell ya! I am hoping the fixed the jumping dronevwe get on Air 3S when SOME damn thing happens with the Lidar/Optical avoidance system. It's pretty awful. Looks like a low-rider hopping for joy! Reminds me of Mavic 3's bottom or front sensors getting flares from low sun. They would slowly gain altitude until they hit whatever "Max Height" was set to. DJI fixed it, along with a plethora of nasty bugs in Mavic 3's first 6-9 months. Fun times, not!
There is one thing I have to correct you on. If you record videos in 5.1K resolution with the Mavic 3's and then export that to 4K and put it together to a video, then guess what? You will still get more data / quality in the 5.1K video exported to a 4K video over video recording it all in 4K and export it to 4K. So, the quality will ALWAYS be better from the Mavic 3's. And if you are doing professional work on top of it all, that extra data / quality matters.
If you’re doing work for a major Hollywood production, I’d agree with you. The vast majority of the content collected by drones in this category are not going to be seen on screens larger than maybe a television. Getting hung up on the difference between 4K and 5K is silly when most of the media captured by these drones will largely be compressed to hell and viewed on small screens. We aren’t anti-hi-res, but people getting upset because we aren’t comparing the Mavic 3’s 5.1K to the Air 3S’s 4K is a little wild to us when you consider the way these drones will be used. Resolution matters, but not enough to riot over…not in this case.
Colors are way off on the air 3s - everything looks purple. I don’t know if you guys changed your mind after watching the footage on a bigger screen, but I don’t know how one can look at the results that you’ve got and say - 17:07 - mavic’s image quality is definitely better
Mavic still has a great image quality, but in these conditions with camera settings near-identical, the Air 3S looks better to us. Temperature and tint can be addressed in post fairly easily, so that's a non-issue really. That said we weren't expecting the Air 3S to be so much warmer than the Mavic 3, so that came as a surprise -- especially since I liked the temperature balance on the Mavic 3. I'll be doing another video on JUST the Air 3S where I play with the settings a bit more to dial them in a bit more.
@@TheDroneGeek and you will be doing what? Runing autonomous modes & monitoring performance? 😏🙄😂 Careful... a 6 m/s tailwind will net aMax Horizontal Speed of: 27 m/s* (60.397 MPH 97.2 KPH) * At sea level, with 6 m/s tailwind, while flying in the same direction as the wind. They set max tilt 1° up from.35° to 36° And yep..easily pulled 61+ mph yesterday. Love it
Are you doing Air 3 vs 3S? Do you think there are differences in photo mode - sharpness, detail, dynamic range, noise? Because Air 3 or my unit at least has softness issues with the 24mm cam and some people say the 3S is all around sharp not just in the middle
I will be. Unfortunately I no longer have an Air 3, so I can't do a "side-by-side" comparison like this video does. But I shot and filmed all of my Air 3 stuff in Auto Settings, so we'll do a comparison between those drones with the media I captured back then and media I capture now.
Realmente estan comprados o nececitamos preguntar al soporte de dji por que esta haciendo obsoleto ese 4/3 mas grande que 1 pulgada sin apertura variable, como es posoble que lo supere si escribe incluso a 200 mbs del mavic 3 classic contra un air3 s a 90 o 130 mbs una escritura baja, hoy usuarios de dji nececitamos dejar nuestras quejas en Dji que es lonque esta pasando ?
Original Comment Translated to English: Are they really bought or do we need to ask DJI support why they are making that 4/3 larger than 1 inch without variable aperture obsolete, how is it possible that it surpasses it if it writes even at 200 mbs from the mavic 3 classic against an air3 s at 90 or 130 mbs a low writing, today DJI users need to leave our complaints at DJI, what is happening?
We aren't bogged down in the specs. You pay $300-400 less for the Air 3S, so the components and capabilities are going to be capped. However, the Air 3S does more with less than the Mavic 3. We're getting mixed responses on this video. Some people are extremely happy with it, others are not, some are undecided. I think this drone will be a drone that trends positively over the next month or two as people become exposed to it. It packs an incredible punch at a "lite" buildout compared to the Mavic 3. We like it better.
Hey, you haven't answered my question, I'll tell you in your language, how is it possible? a more expensive drone with a much larger sensor and with much larger writing and with Hasselblad colors. They look worse against a much cheaper drone with a smaller sensor and worse video recording, does it have better resolution than the other one and is still in the DJI store right now? Do I plan to believe 2 things, or are you lying or does Dji need to answer for this crime? It's not just me, there are a lot of people upset by these UA-camrs who sometimes lie.@@TheDroneGeek
Why would I lie? I spent my own money on the drone. DJI has not ever contacted me about doing a review on ANY of their products. I literally have no motivation to lie to you. The Air 3S has a better quality image in my opinion. Whatever processing components they integrated into the drone are extremely efficient and put out an image I prefer to the Mavic 3's. It's that simple.
@@TheDroneGeek In a 20 min video only 1 side by side shot that can really compare. 80% of time just talking. You can tell everyone you don't like criticism...
God forbid you scrub through the video and see which one is better. How can you possibly get the full effect when you crop the image down to half the frame? You’ll live.
Ok im sorry but your resolution argument doesn’t make any sense because of two factors. First, resolution absolutely matters when it comes to video bitrate which on the Air3s 130mbps compared to 200 mbps on the mavic 3 series. That equates to better video quality hands down on top of having a bigger sensor on the mavic 3 series. Second, if your posting reels/shorts/tiktoks on social media you want to go with the highest resolution possible so that you can crop in, zoom , etc. to give you a sensational vertical. The Air3s only gives 2.7K resolution on vertical video while the mini 4 gives you true 4K quality without having to edit. Now outside of that , give me a mavic 3 with 5.1k resolution and I crop it into something more than what the mini 4 offers it’s a no brainer. My last point is if DJI was able to do that with an air3s, just imagine the mavic 4 with a 4/3 sensor and variable aperture 😮
I disagree because the perspective you're sharing, while admirable and valid, fails to really step back and look at things how they were meant to be seen. We all get so bogged down in the "on-paper" specs and we forget the most important part of multimedia production is not whether or not the source file is 4K or 6K or 8K nor whether it had a bitrate of 130mbps or 200mbps...it's how it looks in a finished product.
No doubt sensor size and bitrate differentials keep this close. But when you boil it down to this 4K vs. that 4K, that's what matters. What has the best look right off of the camera. Even with a smaller sensor (larger for the telephoto, of course), the Air 3S is a step up from the Mavic 3 when it comes to simplification of multimedia output. Plain and simple. I used to fall victim to believing if I wasn't shooting in log with the biggest sensors and the fastest processors that I was never going to be able to create anything professionally and aesthetically pleasing. I've only seen my quality of work increase after letting go of that concept and allowing the technology in my hands do what it was built to do best.
All that to say, I appreciate yours and others perspectives on this. I don't think you're totally wrong in your assertions, but I think for platforms like these getting bogged down in the specsheet is a mistake.
ALL OF THAT SAID, I think we both agree that, after seeing what the Air 3S can do, the Mavic 4 is going to be absolutely insane...
@@TheDroneGeek your literally proving my point because you as well as other creators will be jumping on that Mavic 4 bandwagon and how its going to be the greatest foldable camera drone( outside of the inspire series) ever created. Which will have a bigger sensor, higher video bitrate, variable aperture, etc. than the Air3s hands down end of story that is a fact. Sure, better processing is just icing on the proverbial cake but be honest are you gonna using Air3s more or less if the Mavic 4 was released tomorrow? 🤔 🤣
I have a mavic 3 pro and Ill tell you this if any mavic 3 pro owners are considering selling their units to get an Air3s? You are smoking some high quality stuff and I want some 🤣
@@TheDroneGeek also not to knock on the Air3s but the image coming out of it is processed if you get what im saying like straight from camera with a social media filter on it. It’s a little too warm which is a product of the processing but the Mavic 3 Pro can be a little too cool again negligible nip picking. also, a big knock Night Time Footage is lacking big-time but what do you expect? I’m used to a 4/3 sensor which handles Night Time shots better so it’s not fair to the Air3s but you started by comparing it the King of Drones 👑 so it’s fair game 😂
Resolution absolutely does matter! But I think what we were trying to get across was that it doesn't matter quite as much as people make it out to and often as video and drone enthusiasts we get hung up on spec sheets rather than what the final image looks like. HOWEVER, I've got a feeling this is far from our last video testing out the differences between the Mavic 3 and Air 3s. Chris and I have something special cooking up in the next few weeks, and I'd love to do a "Pro" video settings comparison. Perhaps "Air 3s 4k Dlog-M vs Mavic 3 5.1k Dlog"
@@peacefulthrillseeker actually, the way I see it is the Air 3S does more with less than the Mavic 3. Lower bitrate, lower maximum resolution, smaller sensor size...yet it still manages to punch above its weight class! The Mavic 4 will have all of the bells and whistles of the Air 3S plus more...so obviously it will be the better drone. The point we're making is that just because the Mavic 3 can shoot 5.1K doesn't immediately make it a better drone than the Air 3S. In fact, we feel quite the opposite (obviously, as we stated it in the video)...the Air 3S is our pick over the Mavic 3.
Its hard to tell which is truly "better" but the warmth of the video made it a bit more difficult to tell. I do think the Mavic has better color reproduction / separation. For example the lake water color but Its actually surprinting how different they look tbh. Air 3S Trees do look great. They both are fantastic though... Only certain conclusion i can draw is you can't beat the Air 3S value right now. I would love to see the Air 3 vs 3S too.
Honestly I was shocked at how different the white balance was. We shot these both at 5500k. It's something I want to experiment with and see at what Kelvin the Air 3s matches the Mavic 3.
@@SamKarpFPV Billy Cyle already tested this - you need to decrease the wb by about 400k on the air 3s to match color temperature on the Mavic 3
@@lilipok3521 that is great to know!
I have the classic and this has not sold me. Gonna wait for the 4 series.
Totally fair assessment!
Great stuff guys 👍🏾😂
Can’t wait to see the low light comparison. I think I’ll wait for the Mavic 4.
I love my Air 3S - There was a DJI update this morning BTW
I saw that! Thank you for the heads-up!
Fixed some bugs - it does not GET more exciting than vasecomized Tse Tse Fly, I am here to tell ya!
I am hoping the fixed the jumping dronevwe get on Air 3S when SOME damn thing happens with the Lidar/Optical avoidance system. It's pretty awful. Looks like a low-rider hopping for joy! Reminds me of Mavic 3's bottom or front sensors getting flares from low sun. They would slowly gain altitude until they hit whatever "Max Height" was set to. DJI fixed it, along with a plethora of nasty bugs in Mavic 3's first 6-9 months. Fun times, not!
@@BlairAir huh?
There is one thing I have to correct you on. If you record videos in 5.1K resolution with the Mavic 3's and then export that to 4K and put it together to a video, then guess what?
You will still get more data / quality in the 5.1K video exported to a 4K video over video recording it all in 4K and export it to 4K.
So, the quality will ALWAYS be better from the Mavic 3's. And if you are doing professional work on top of it all, that extra data / quality matters.
If you’re doing work for a major Hollywood production, I’d agree with you. The vast majority of the content collected by drones in this category are not going to be seen on screens larger than maybe a television. Getting hung up on the difference between 4K and 5K is silly when most of the media captured by these drones will largely be compressed to hell and viewed on small screens. We aren’t anti-hi-res, but people getting upset because we aren’t comparing the Mavic 3’s 5.1K to the Air 3S’s 4K is a little wild to us when you consider the way these drones will be used. Resolution matters, but not enough to riot over…not in this case.
Colors are way off on the air 3s - everything looks purple. I don’t know if you guys changed your mind after watching the footage on a bigger screen, but I don’t know how one can look at the results that you’ve got and say - 17:07 - mavic’s image quality is definitely better
Mavic still has a great image quality, but in these conditions with camera settings near-identical, the Air 3S looks better to us. Temperature and tint can be addressed in post fairly easily, so that's a non-issue really. That said we weren't expecting the Air 3S to be so much warmer than the Mavic 3, so that came as a surprise -- especially since I liked the temperature balance on the Mavic 3. I'll be doing another video on JUST the Air 3S where I play with the settings a bit more to dial them in a bit more.
Exposure has left the chat
I need you there running the camera.
@@TheDroneGeek and you will be doing what? Runing autonomous modes & monitoring performance? 😏🙄😂 Careful... a 6 m/s tailwind will net aMax Horizontal Speed of:
27 m/s*
(60.397 MPH 97.2 KPH)
* At sea level, with 6 m/s tailwind, while flying in the same direction as the wind. They set max tilt 1° up from.35° to 36°
And yep..easily pulled 61+ mph yesterday. Love it
I'll probably go get some of Mr. Chen's Mongolian BBQ Buffet while Dono does all the work.
Nice review, great content.
Thank you!
Are you doing Air 3 vs 3S? Do you think there are differences in photo mode - sharpness, detail, dynamic range, noise? Because Air 3 or my unit at least has softness issues with the 24mm cam and some people say the 3S is all around sharp not just in the middle
I will be. Unfortunately I no longer have an Air 3, so I can't do a "side-by-side" comparison like this video does. But I shot and filmed all of my Air 3 stuff in Auto Settings, so we'll do a comparison between those drones with the media I captured back then and media I capture now.
Good stuff...thanks guys
Excellent video guys.
Thank you!
The Air 3S footage looks grossly oversharpened, whereas the M3C footage is less "sharp", but more detailed at the same time.
Yeah, this was straight out of the box. We didn’t change any settings on the Air 3S. We’ll be playing with the settings in a future video.
I just realized my FPV brain kept saying KV instead of K for color temperature 😅
K = Kelvin. There is also a "V" in the word "Kelvin." You're good.
Realmente estan comprados o nececitamos preguntar al soporte de dji por que esta haciendo obsoleto ese 4/3 mas grande que 1 pulgada sin apertura variable, como es posoble que lo supere si escribe incluso a 200 mbs del mavic 3 classic contra un air3 s a 90 o 130 mbs una escritura baja, hoy usuarios de dji nececitamos dejar nuestras quejas en Dji que es lonque esta pasando ?
Original Comment Translated to English:
Are they really bought or do we need to ask DJI support why they are making that 4/3 larger than 1 inch without variable aperture obsolete, how is it possible that it surpasses it if it writes even at 200 mbs from the mavic 3 classic against an air3 s at 90 or 130 mbs a low writing, today DJI users need to leave our complaints at DJI, what is happening?
We aren't bogged down in the specs. You pay $300-400 less for the Air 3S, so the components and capabilities are going to be capped. However, the Air 3S does more with less than the Mavic 3. We're getting mixed responses on this video. Some people are extremely happy with it, others are not, some are undecided. I think this drone will be a drone that trends positively over the next month or two as people become exposed to it. It packs an incredible punch at a "lite" buildout compared to the Mavic 3. We like it better.
Hey, you haven't answered my question, I'll tell you in your language, how is it possible? a more expensive drone with a much larger sensor and with much larger writing and with Hasselblad colors. They look worse against a much cheaper drone with a smaller sensor and worse video recording, does it have better resolution than the other one and is still in the DJI store right now? Do I plan to believe 2 things, or are you lying or does Dji need to answer for this crime? It's not just me, there are a lot of people upset by these UA-camrs who sometimes lie.@@TheDroneGeek
Why would I lie? I spent my own money on the drone. DJI has not ever contacted me about doing a review on ANY of their products. I literally have no motivation to lie to you. The Air 3S has a better quality image in my opinion. Whatever processing components they integrated into the drone are extremely efficient and put out an image I prefer to the Mavic 3's. It's that simple.
plz let me now lowlight result mavic air 3s
Coming soon!
@@TheDroneGeek tnx bro , love from Pakistan
Hard to compare with different shots from each drone.
Tell everyone you didn’t pay attention to the video without telling us you didn’t pay attention to the video…
Different shots?? You saw this UA-cam movie??
@@TheDroneGeek In a 20 min video only 1 side by side shot that can really compare. 80% of time just talking.
You can tell everyone you don't like criticism...
God forbid you scrub through the video and see which one is better. How can you possibly get the full effect when you crop the image down to half the frame? You’ll live.