3:35 Industrial cards also have several times better write endurance. With older Windows tending to write a lot to the swap file, it makes a huge difference.
I'm always amazed how I start watching, already having read the premise of the video on the title, and the video being 30+ minutes long. Never change, Mike.
I get Druaga1 vibes from MJD in how he's often running into problems in much the same way. Glad he's filling that void, Druaga1 doesn't even upload anymore.
I really don't know how long I've been watching your videos for but I always think they are good value - even when things go wrong you still explain why. I do really like watching them especially videos about the '98 PC - it brings back so many memories, especially with the intro music!
The other advantage of DMA over PIO is that the latter is prone to freezing as the CPU handles all the transfers. Something cool you can do now that you’ve got the reader: you can set up the disk however you want and then image it on a modern system. That way you can always restore back to a good point no matter what might have gotten screwed up.
wow I am thrilled to see my Donated Copy of Microsoft Return of Arcade being used!!!!!! I know Michael you're going to have a lot of fun with Return of Arcade! and Great VIDEO Cool to see you playing Ms Pacman
27:08 Ohh yes, I remember this installer. As a kid I would try to install Half Life because I had no idea what that was, and this sound scared me SHITLESS. I then IMMEDIATELY turned off my computer and left the CD on the shelf swearing to not touch it ever again. And about 9 years later I fell in love with the franchise. How the tables have turned.
Every time I get a notification for a new MJD video, I want to drop everything and watch it right away. As long as you keep uploading videos about stuff you're interested in, I'll keep watching them no matter what the topic.
I know I'm late on this. But I wanted to say that Ive been watching your videos since the pandemic. And they helped me out a lot. I love vintage technology and older games too. And I always enjoyed it when you installed OS versions on any PC. Thank you for helping me during a tough time. I've been watching your videos for about 3 years now and I'm never going to stop.
Just wanna share something that I think fits perfectly with this channel's audience: I recently got an LG smart TV from the mid-2010s that had a built-in internet browser. I was surprised to discover that it can still play Flash games! Most of the games run at like 5 FPS but still
I definitely feel that “repeat subject drop-off” stuff. I’ve noticed some larger channels will wait 6-12 months to revisit a subject even when it did hugely. I suspect they learned to do that the hard way! I think it’s important to curb that urge to go “oh, this did well, I’ll do it again!” right away. I’ve seen other medium-sized channels run into that as well, like Star Trek channels doing a string of species videos or technology videos and engagement drops off on the second or third one. I’ve always found using patterns similar to various rhyming schemes can help avoid overloading the subject matter. Especially I find them a useful guide for how much direct repetition will be received well.
I loved this video and i love your style. Your style is very charming regardless of the topic, and it’s interesting to see you explore stuff i might not have even thought about
i've been subbed to you since sometime around 2016 or so. honestly man i just love seeing you do whatever you enjoy, i love watching whatever escapades you get into and am happy to watch regardless. it's been awesome being around this long and watching you grow and change. you've really come out of your shell since i first started watching and i'm really proud of you
I've binged almost all of your videos, and I return for your personality and quality content! You could probably make a video about any topic and I'd still be just as interested lol.
Honestly i like your videos a lot because i think you are one of very few people that mentions stuff around windows xp which was my all time favorite system
My Pentium 2 Gateway bought Aug 1998’s motherboard was a “Bryant”. Went through the driver disc many times! A beige spray paint or vinyl wrap may look great on the faceplate. Great vid.
My home computer when I was a kid had a 3.5" swappable hard drive. My mom had her work operating system on one drive and my brother and I had our hard drive that we installed tons of games on. This project definitely reminds me of that.
Occasional watcher here. Loved the wii videos. I'm feeling a bit dirty right now in the retro world. I just went though my really old backup drive and pulled a bunch of dos games. Now playing them in dosbox on my 2009 mac running high sierra. Take away from today CF mounts as HDD and DMA good.
I remember the good old days of DOS and MS-DOS, yet I cannot remember the hold setup. The fun days of the many different MS-DOS games to go with the system. Win 3 and 3.1, boy fun days of the past. Window's 98 was one of the very best. Thanks for reminding us all of those hard working but fun days. Will love to get that old new feeling once again I've really enjoyed going through this video with you, much thanks.
I just watch every of your videos because I find this stuff really interesting! Are you going to put a Windows 98 sticker or something on the CF Card to differentiate it from the others?
Good to know that industrial CF cards always read as fixed disks. A retro PC is something that I was possibly, maybe, eventually getting around to doing. I should probably start sooner rather than later...
Good to know that CF IDE adapters work well for old systems, and thanks for the tip with the industrial cards. I have an ancient PC stashed away that still has ISA slots on the mainboard because I have a Lego Interface A card and a few Lego Technic sets that go along with it. The interface A is an ISA card that lets you control and program Technic models with motors via a DOS-based program. The original software was shipped on 5,25" floppies, so you can probably guess how old it is ;)
I have a compact flash reader in one of my old PCs and it's great. I have a drawer full of CF cards and I just plug in what I want. My only issue is I have to use a card slot because there isn't room in a drive bay.
Neat, this is basically what I did years ago with a 3.5" cover and an ISA/PCI slot cover based CF-Adapter (using tons of manual labour and patience to make it look good) and was looking for less crafty ways to have CF slots at the front.
I use a SD card adapter for my Old PC. As of now I swap between 4 SD cards depending on what I want to play on it. One SD with DR-DOS, one with MS-DOS, one with Windows 95 and the last one with Windows 98. I only run OS on these cards, for programs and sw I have partioned a internal Hard Disk into 3 different partions reflecting the OS I am using. Loved seeing other solutions on this
You should be able to run AnitX on that PC. AntiX is a current Linux distro. It's known to run on a potato, in fact your Win98 PC is over minimum spec for AntiX!
Back in the day, I always booted to a dos prompt and created the folders windows\options\cabs. Then I copied the Win98 folder from the CD to this location on the hard drive, and ran setup from the hard drive. The result was it would never again ask for my Windows 98 CD (whether I installed new hardware or drivers later on) because the cab files were already there.
You still have to be careful on which ones you purchase. Transcend supported it natively, so you will see most Retro Tubers use them in their builds. SanDisk Extreme supports both modes, but not all SanDisk models. If you look at CF cards with SM2236 controllers, those will be guaranteed to work.
@eDoc2020 But the later drivers need to know what controllers already exist on the motherboard. The motherboard chipset drivers are like the foundations of a house.
@@Dave4000 Before installing the chipset driver there will be a "Generic PCI-PCI bridge" in Device Manager for example. This generic driver works fine and Windows can scan for all the devices under it. Installing the chipset driver will change it to "Intel 82801GBM PCIe Port 3" or similar but the actual code used is the exact same.
@@Dave4000 I've never heard of a "correct" order before. Obviously if you have exotic hardware you need storage drivers before you can install but other than that it doesn't make much difference. I go for graphics first because it makes everything else easier.
My grandfather went back to school in the nineties to learn computer programming as his work was going digital. After that, he would force my less tech savvy grandmother to upgrade her computer fairly often, though transferring data between computers was a pain. Still, I remember their Old win98 E-machine that they had till 98 was taken off life support and then they had an XP machine for 15 years. That's right! My grandfather died in 2013 so he wasn't around to tell my grandmother to upgrade so she ran that win XP machine until it went Kapoot. Win98, 2000 and XP were the foundation of my earliest memories with computers as I was born in 99.
No matter what video you will Upload in the Future. I see a new MJD Video, i click it and f*ckin enjoy it! I like your calm voice and the overall charm of your content. Please do more Videos like that. And im think i am not alone with the wish to see you live here on UA-cam or Twitch doin nice PC stuff like that in a live stream
I'd say leave the color of the front panel. Mismatched colored peripherals was pretty normal even for the time period. People were just getting what was available or on sale and in many cases it wasn't the ideal match.
10:00 MattKC tried installing Windows ME on a 2009 iMac and this exact same thing happened. This was because he had a couple USB drives/removable storage plugged in.
Yup this thing would be a must have for anyone wanting to use old hardware for old pcs instead of a hard drive. If I ever get a windows 98 pc or xp pc I would use this too.
Eeey it's one of my first computers except it was a 399mhz celeron and you even have the matching cambridge soundworks speakers that came with it... Hope you can still find a PSU for it if and when it shits the bed because iirc the formfactor was proprietary for that mid tower.
Pairing the black 3.5" mounting bracket within the 5.25" mounting bracket really gives the CF reader the feel of an old IBM disk drive in a way. I like the combination of colors and think it would fit well with any sleeper or retro build, paired with black optical drives.
I have some of those multi card readers that used to come on late 80,s these work great on newer computers, some are configured for IDE and others are USB.
I have plans to run a 64 GB Cf Card in something running Win98. Possibly my old behemoth Compaq Presario 7000. Only thing I'm unsure of is where to get all those old Dos Games that I see on these videos.
How about installing some newer Linux distros on this and seeing how they perform? Of course not stuff like the big distros, I mean things like Puppy (I believe Slacko 7.0 can still run on this PC!). Or maybe even OpenBSD, it seems to require only a i386-compatible CPU and 256MB RAM for the basic graphical mode.
Is it bad that I honestly love that this channel isnt too big? Feels like a nice and cozy community.
Mhm i get ya, like a group of friends with a common interest in old pcs
you're not alone
Nearly 93 million views but yeah it isn't too big. LOL
Same :)
You're not alone
3:35 Industrial cards also have several times better write endurance. With older Windows tending to write a lot to the swap file, it makes a huge difference.
I'm always amazed how I start watching, already having read the premise of the video on the title, and the video being 30+ minutes long. Never change, Mike.
I get Druaga1 vibes from MJD in how he's often running into problems in much the same way. Glad he's filling that void, Druaga1 doesn't even upload anymore.
The $5 Windows 98 PC is legendary, glad to see it back!
Worth all the p0rn to watch on it
The $5 98PC is the best PC ever, wish he made more videos on it.
I wonder though... after all these upgrades, is it still a "$5" PC? :)
@@tardisgrade $2000 pc
@@tardisgrade $5*
*before upgrades, modifications, repairs, and parts
I really don't know how long I've been watching your videos for but I always think they are good value - even when things go wrong you still explain why. I do really like watching them especially videos about the '98 PC - it brings back so many memories, especially with the intro music!
The other advantage of DMA over PIO is that the latter is prone to freezing as the CPU handles all the transfers.
Something cool you can do now that you’ve got the reader: you can set up the disk however you want and then image it on a modern system. That way you can always restore back to a good point no matter what might have gotten screwed up.
I really love that floppy disc wall behind the monitor in the 98 installation clip of the video
Finally a 5$ Windows 98 PC video! Didnt see any upgrades to it in a long time.
I so adore your floppy disk wall. It's so good
wow I am thrilled to see my Donated Copy of Microsoft Return of Arcade being used!!!!!! I know Michael you're going to have a lot of fun with Return of Arcade! and Great VIDEO Cool to see you playing Ms Pacman
Should had said Revenge of Arcade not Return
A new Michael video is always something to raise the mood
but damn that floppy wall is a mood!
27:08 Ohh yes, I remember this installer. As a kid I would try to install Half Life because I had no idea what that was, and this sound scared me SHITLESS. I then IMMEDIATELY turned off my computer and left the CD on the shelf swearing to not touch it ever again. And about 9 years later I fell in love with the franchise. How the tables have turned.
LOL
Every time I get a notification for a new MJD video, I want to drop everything and watch it right away. As long as you keep uploading videos about stuff you're interested in, I'll keep watching them no matter what the topic.
I love you
I know I'm late on this. But I wanted to say that Ive been watching your videos since the pandemic. And they helped me out a lot. I love vintage technology and older games too. And I always enjoyed it when you installed OS versions on any PC. Thank you for helping me during a tough time. I've been watching your videos for about 3 years now and I'm never going to stop.
FINALLY another video with the $5 Win98 PC!
Just wanna share something that I think fits perfectly with this channel's audience: I recently got an LG smart TV from the mid-2010s that had a built-in internet browser. I was surprised to discover that it can still play Flash games! Most of the games run at like 5 FPS but still
The PSP can play a limited number of flash games too. Also flash was removed from MODERN browsers. Why were you even surprised?
because it can play flash games at a whopping 5 fps which is really fast
I’ve been watching this channel for years, this channel means a lot to me! You’ve made a really cool space here
I definitely feel that “repeat subject drop-off” stuff. I’ve noticed some larger channels will wait 6-12 months to revisit a subject even when it did hugely. I suspect they learned to do that the hard way!
I think it’s important to curb that urge to go “oh, this did well, I’ll do it again!” right away. I’ve seen other medium-sized channels run into that as well, like Star Trek channels doing a string of species videos or technology videos and engagement drops off on the second or third one.
I’ve always found using patterns similar to various rhyming schemes can help avoid overloading the subject matter. Especially I find them a useful guide for how much direct repetition will be received well.
The CF card reader is such a handy upgrade to this pc! I would also definitely watch you play Half Life on the Windows 98 PC
I love u
Just got a chance to see the video and I loved it. Huge fan of vintage computers and glad you shared this with us here on UA-cam. Have a good one.
Glad you liked it!
I loved this video and i love your style. Your style is very charming regardless of the topic, and it’s interesting to see you explore stuff i might not have even thought about
i've been subbed to you since sometime around 2016 or so. honestly man i just love seeing you do whatever you enjoy, i love watching whatever escapades you get into and am happy to watch regardless. it's been awesome being around this long and watching you grow and change. you've really come out of your shell since i first started watching and i'm really proud of you
I've binged almost all of your videos, and I return for your personality and quality content! You could probably make a video about any topic and I'd still be just as interested lol.
You have been taking about doing this for a while now. Glad we get to see you make the upgrade!!
Honestly i like your videos a lot because i think you are one of very few people that mentions stuff around windows xp which was my all time favorite system
You're welcome, I've been watching your channel for years now, I grew up around win 95,98 etc 👍
FINALLY! how long have we been waiting for this?
I was planning on building a retro pc, and now I absolutely need to try this! Your videos are always so inspiring! ✨ Keep up the good work 🎉
Same I want a retro pc for the all the nasty p0rn I Wana watch with a bag of crisps
glad to see that thing back
At this point the 98 PC is so famous, it should get its own Instagram account 🤣
or even a subreddit
its actually the 98 pc
@@thatonetj correct. I made a typo there
25:55 You can get rid of this Microsoft Network prompt by changing settings in "Network" control panel applet.
6:30 nice loppu disk Wall, mjd, you're one of youtubers who videos I watch most of my time 👍
Now that's what I'm waiting for! Thank you very Much!
My Pentium 2 Gateway bought Aug 1998’s motherboard was a “Bryant”. Went through the driver disc many times! A beige spray paint or vinyl wrap may look great on the faceplate. Great vid.
My home computer when I was a kid had a 3.5" swappable hard drive. My mom had her work operating system on one drive and my brother and I had our hard drive that we installed tons of games on. This project definitely reminds me of that.
definitely love this kind of long videos
I'm currently doing this to all my retro laptops! Great video!
Thank you!
Haven't watched these type of videos in a while. Nice to see these type of videos whitch others don't really have
Occasional watcher here. Loved the wii videos. I'm feeling a bit dirty right now in the retro world. I just went though my really old backup drive and pulled a bunch of dos games. Now playing them in dosbox on my 2009 mac running high sierra. Take away from today CF mounts as HDD and DMA good.
I absolutely love the floppy disk wall. I want one right now XD
I remember the good old days of DOS and MS-DOS, yet I cannot remember the hold setup. The fun days of the many different MS-DOS games to go with the system.
Win 3 and 3.1, boy fun days of the past.
Window's 98 was one of the very best. Thanks for reminding us all of those hard working but fun days.
Will love to get that old new feeling once again I've really enjoyed going through this video with you, much thanks.
Love this channel
always been a tech person like you.
Great video once again. Also, I love that floppy disk background, it really looks great 👍
Man I sure don't miss trying to get all my drivers installed after formatting a Windows 98 system back in the day
Hi mjd love your videos they are awesome keep up the good content!
Why did you post this at night? Still a GREAT video
yesssss another video ❤❤
I just watch every of your videos because I find this stuff really interesting!
Are you going to put a Windows 98 sticker or something on the CF Card to differentiate it from the others?
So awesome…. I think the black fascia works just fine!
Good to know that industrial CF cards always read as fixed disks. A retro PC is something that I was possibly, maybe, eventually getting around to doing.
I should probably start sooner rather than later...
Good to know that CF IDE adapters work well for old systems, and thanks for the tip with the industrial cards. I have an ancient PC stashed away that still has ISA slots on the mainboard because I have a Lego Interface A card and a few Lego Technic sets that go along with it. The interface A is an ISA card that lets you control and program Technic models with motors via a DOS-based program. The original software was shipped on 5,25" floppies, so you can probably guess how old it is ;)
Perfect video to watch while playing PC building Sim😌
I have a compact flash reader in one of my old PCs and it's great. I have a drawer full of CF cards and I just plug in what I want.
My only issue is I have to use a card slot because there isn't room in a drive bay.
Love the floppy disks wall btw.
I think it looks cool the black looks very professional
Neat, this is basically what I did years ago with a 3.5" cover and an ISA/PCI slot cover based CF-Adapter (using tons of manual labour and patience to make it look good) and was looking for less crafty ways to have CF slots at the front.
Holy smokebombs thank you for that DMA tip, that worked wonders on my retro computer
Also, don't worry, all your content is amazing, do what you like the most!
havent been watching michael mjd for long but i love the content
You're doing it again! So Cool!!!
I use a SD card adapter for my Old PC. As of now I swap between 4 SD cards depending on what I want to play on it. One SD with DR-DOS, one with MS-DOS, one with Windows 95 and the last one with Windows 98. I only run OS on these cards, for programs and sw I have partioned a internal Hard Disk into 3 different partions reflecting the OS I am using. Loved seeing other solutions on this
The 5$ 98 pc is back! This mod is so cool!
23:28 the most unsatisfying Ms. Pac-Man moment ever
I love the random stuff Startech make
You should be able to run AnitX on that PC. AntiX is a current Linux distro. It's known to run on a potato, in fact your Win98 PC is over minimum spec for AntiX!
And it is an amazing os. I run it on my crappy HP stream laptop
I love that floppy disk wall...looks legit awesome
Back in the day, I always booted to a dos prompt and created the folders windows\options\cabs. Then I copied the Win98 folder from the CD to this location on the hard drive, and ran setup from the hard drive. The result was it would never again ask for my Windows 98 CD (whether I installed new hardware or drivers later on) because the cab files were already there.
I would like to see Corel LinuxOS Second Edition (which came bundled with WordPerfect for Linux)
Fun fact: you can flash new firmware on consumer flash disks so that they report as fixed disks
You still have to be careful on which ones you purchase. Transcend supported it natively, so you will see most Retro Tubers use them in their builds. SanDisk Extreme supports both modes, but not all SanDisk models. If you look at CF cards with SM2236 controllers, those will be guaranteed to work.
Another option which should work for all cards under "newer" Windows versions is the Hitachi Microdrive driver.
I have to thank you for the great Videos.
Awesome floppies in the background
there are also SD Card Adapters in the CF Formfactor - one way to use your old 512MB / 2GB / 4GB SD Cards from back in the day
When manually installing Windows drivers, it's said to go smoother if you install the motherboard chipset drivers first, before all other drivers.
Almost all chipset drivers are literally nothing. They just change the appearance of things in Device Manager.
@eDoc2020 But the later drivers need to know what controllers already exist on the motherboard.
The motherboard chipset drivers are like the foundations of a house.
@@Dave4000 Before installing the chipset driver there will be a "Generic PCI-PCI bridge" in Device Manager for example. This generic driver works fine and Windows can scan for all the devices under it. Installing the chipset driver will change it to "Intel 82801GBM PCIe Port 3" or similar but the actual code used is the exact same.
@@Dave4000 I've never heard of a "correct" order before. Obviously if you have exotic hardware you need storage drivers before you can install but other than that it doesn't make much difference. I go for graphics first because it makes everything else easier.
My grandfather went back to school in the nineties to learn computer programming as his work was going digital. After that, he would force my less tech savvy grandmother to upgrade her computer fairly often, though transferring data between computers was a pain. Still, I remember their Old win98 E-machine that they had till 98 was taken off life support and then they had an XP machine for 15 years. That's right! My grandfather died in 2013 so he wasn't around to tell my grandmother to upgrade so she ran that win XP machine until it went Kapoot.
Win98, 2000 and XP were the foundation of my earliest memories with computers as I was born in 99.
No matter what video you will Upload in the Future. I see a new MJD Video, i click it and f*ckin enjoy it! I like your calm voice and the overall charm of your content. Please do more Videos like that. And im think i am not alone with the wish to see you live here on UA-cam or Twitch doin nice PC stuff like that in a live stream
I'd say leave the color of the front panel. Mismatched colored peripherals was pretty normal even for the time period. People were just getting what was available or on sale and in many cases it wasn't the ideal match.
Michael, the part that is in black does not look bad against the light casing surrounding it--not at all.
I would love a half life series of videos from start to end of game :)
you just want a playthrough?
U teach me. Im young asf but from like 7 years of age, I watch your videos everyday.
10:00 MattKC tried installing Windows ME on a 2009 iMac and this exact same thing happened. This was because he had a couple USB drives/removable storage plugged in.
I would like to see you do LFS for it, but obviously condensed, cutting out all the compilation and any extra fluff.
31:46 Wow, Mona Lisa worked on this game! Is it SO old? XD
Yup this thing would be a must have for anyone wanting to use old hardware for old pcs instead of a hard drive. If I ever get a windows 98 pc or xp pc I would use this too.
Now you can have the fun of installing the 7 Sims expansions.
Eeey it's one of my first computers except it was a 399mhz celeron and you even have the matching cambridge soundworks speakers that came with it... Hope you can still find a PSU for it if and when it shits the bed because iirc the formfactor was proprietary for that mid tower.
Pairing the black 3.5" mounting bracket within the 5.25" mounting bracket really gives the CF reader the feel of an old IBM disk drive in a way. I like the combination of colors and think it would fit well with any sleeper or retro build, paired with black optical drives.
Those IBM PCs always remind me of a pug face.
for 2000 or newer you can use the option "windows 2 go" in rufus to trick windows into thinking remvable storage is a HDD
Only works on 8.1+ officially, I believe 7 can work sometimes
I have some of those multi card readers that used to come on late 80,s these work great on newer computers, some are configured for IDE and others are USB.
I have plans to run a 64 GB Cf Card in something running Win98. Possibly my old behemoth Compaq Presario 7000. Only thing I'm unsure of is where to get all those old Dos Games that I see on these videos.
You should be through garage sales or eBay able to get them
@@tubbunny Oh I figure there was a place to download all of them. If I had to depend on garage or Ebay I'd be old and gray and broke. Lol
Cool! I didn't know you could install your OS on a CF card.
the moment I saw a bootmii folder I knew you tinkered with the Wii again
This is the most recent 98 pc vid WE WANT MORE
A bit of gaming never hurts!
I always enjoy your vids!
I'd definitely love to see some old Linux distros running on this beauty!
*Megamind Doorbell Camera:* No woodgrain?
Floppy disc wall? I love it!
Me: watching Michele.
Random bird outside: Tweet tweet.
Me: wtf was that bird just singing
Do you have the restore cd for the 98 pc uploaded anywhere? I have that exact machine I got for free, but it didn’t come with any of the restore cds
7:11The Great Wall Of Floppy Diskettes
How about installing some newer Linux distros on this and seeing how they perform?
Of course not stuff like the big distros, I mean things like Puppy (I believe Slacko 7.0 can still run on this PC!). Or maybe even OpenBSD, it seems to require only a i386-compatible CPU and 256MB RAM for the basic graphical mode.