Booting Up and Exploring the '90s Mystery PC!
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2022
- Today we're taking a closer look at the '90s Mystery PC! Now that I have an AT to PS/2 adapter, we can fully boot the machine up and see what the hard drive contains.
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Most of those wallpapers are Win 3.1 wallpapers. When I saw those I immediatly thought 'old pc, upgraded from 3.1 to 98' . Loving these videos.
yep alot of them where the tiled type from 3.1 which look really weird stretched lol
those wallpapers were included in windows 95 also.
Yep, I was going to comment the same. Castle, Cars, Chitz, Leaves and all the like are from 3.1 most certainly.
Thats specific but cool
A man of culture and edacuation I see
This feels every little bit like a family's computer that was later handed over to the family's kid once they got a new one. It's strangely nostalgic since that was also my situation.
Also my situation, except my dad moved the HDDs to their new PC and bought me a new one 😅
Same! Started with the either the 98 or 2000 and I moved to the XP and then I think finally 7
Yep
Yeah either this or/and just a faulty HDD. That's why IBM Via Voice started multiple times and the PC froze at one position.
Weak blocks make it slow, which later transform into bad blocks. HDTune can show you the slow-downs in benchmark and also show bad blocks, but standard scan speed is missing some blocks. You can make it read all blocks, but it's super slow ofc. HDTune will not show you weak blocks I think.
HDAT2 and HDD Regenerator can show you both weak and bad blocks, which you can try to sort out w/o deleting data. It also works with any known and unknown, even unformatted partitions, because it's using direct hardware access. If there's not many bad blocks in a row, the chance is pretty high that you can recover the HDD and use it again.
I think when the PC froze, there's too many bad blocks, which you may not be able to recover with said two tools.
But there's two ways to circumvent it:
- make an empty position around those bad blocks.
- write a big file you don't use around those bad blocks and hope there's no more bad blocks.
school laptops suck
20:06 Please make this the windows startup sound now. 😂
That letter to santa is the most wholesome thing I've watch on a retro pc video. It brings me meories of when me and my family used to share a single pc. It was a Pentium 4 with Windows XP, and lasted until it just stooped to turn on kinda before the end of Windows XP lifetime
8:27 My suspicion from the start was that this PC Case WAS from the 80s and thee whole PC was upgraded from the motherboard up using the case as a donor. They carried over the hard drive, upgraded it to 95 at some point and then maybe when upgrading to 98 they did a hard drive upgrade at the same time.
It feels like that to me too. There's Windows 3.1 stuff on there!
J
90s case all the way dude, 80s was often desktop format IBM and clones from Compaq and such. Unless the 386 had a Turbo button i'm fairly sure that was a 90s thing!
My 90s PC was made just like that... It started as 386SX, low-cost machine with 40MB hard drive in the (very) early 90s or even late 80s. It also had some kind of "bad" monitor that couldn't display VGA properly! It was bought by my father second-hand and we replaced our Amiga 600 with it around ~94 (and yeah - it was such a disappointment in terms of games and music!)
But then we slowly upgraded it: replaced monitor, added sound card (Gravis UltraSound!), new hard drive, moved to 486DX4 in ~96, added more RAM and new SVGA graphics so it became quite a nice mid-90s low-end machine. Great for DOS & early Windows games. And it was still in the same case.
Somewhere before 2000 we upgraded again: with K6-2 450Mhz and... S3 VIRGE (yeah, we were tricked into that one!) with ~64MB or RAM I think. It was a great performance boost in terms of CPU performance (I could listen to .mp3 AND doing something else at the same time!). Very soon we upgraded GPU to GeForce 2MX and more RAM (I think 192MB at this point?) - but then CPU suddenly became a limitation! And the case? Yep, still the same old AT case. Our motherboard back then was a hybrid AT/ATX one...
It was ~2002 when finally discarded the old case and moved to Athlon XP!
Speaking as someone who remembers that style case looks early 90's to me as it's a mini tower, most PC's were sold as desktops as the norm in the 80's. My friend had a nearly identical case which he had an AMD 386DX 40 Mhz with 4MB ram & a 200MB hdd, i was insanely jealous as in 1993 we had a 286 16MHz. It was down to seeing this system my dad got sick of the 286 & went and brought a 486DX2/66 8MB (upgraded to 16), 500MB hdd & it was multimedia PC, 4 months later he brought a Hayes modem & flatbed scanner (I'll never know to this day what lit a fire up his ass to buy all that lol). That was the only reason I got to play Doom lol
Seeing ViaVoice installed on this pc brings back fond memories of a certain Swedish streamer destroying a copy of Windows 98
i was scrolling so long for a comment referencing this..knew I wouldn't be the only one HAHA
@@meganisdumb bro same lol
Luigi is drunk again
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The digital hoarder in me is kinda crying when you say you're going to wipe it, but I totally understand it's personal data that nobody should see. It's the right thing to do. But man, still, I have a thing for files from the 90's. I love to look at a word file and see what a person was thinking at that very moment, sometimes even before I was born. Kinda feels weird to delete something that existed for more than 20 years. But at the end of the day I'm glad this PC ended up in your hands because we were able to catch a glimpse of the past while remaining respectful to the personal data stored there.
The Santa letter is too precious.
the "J" background just instantly reminds me of the "B" flash movie/meme that blew up on newgrounds way back in the day.
Who is MJD? A humble and lovely guy that clearly respects his viewers. I love the candid nature of admitting to missing the gpu issue and giving credit to the viewers. What a guy! Subbed brother.
It's so good that you're so respectful of the personal data on this computer. I *would* like to see some of the more time-capsule-ish letters and whatnot rescued, with the personally identifying info redacted, just for the sake of history. But that would be very time consuming probably. Maybe you could keep an encrypted record of it on a pw-protected disc somewhere? That would be such a hard decision for me, because I think history is very important, but so is personal privacy. I feel bad erasing evidence of people from the face of the earth, but also want to respect their data.
or Michael could ask the person he got the PC from if they wanted that data
@@davinp Pretty sure he said in another comment reply that the data did not belong to the person who gave him the computer. Perhaps that person did know the original owners and could ask them, but that would be the best he could hope for.
i used to fix computers for family and family friends, i always made it a point to never look at the data on the drives, its just how i am
i would even blur and squint my vision when i HAD to actually look into a directory, never ever tried to see any personal data, unless it was a wallpaper, then, rip their privacy if it was bad, but that was, in fact, their bad
@@DeIeted Yeah, I did something similar when I worked in a computer repair shop--*if* my only job was to fix or upgrade the computer. However, we also did some basic backup and data recovery services, and sometimes the customer would request that I locate and save specific documents or groups of documents, even videos (and yes, sometimes they'd sheepishly--or blithely--ask me to find and save their home-made smut/porn, so that was fun). If they didn't remember the name or specific file type, I'd end up having to at least briefly scan my eyes over the file contents so I could determine if it was what they were looking for. In the process I often found other important stuff they might've forgotten about, like family photos, tax/mortgage documents, work or school projects. I wouldn't stare at them and to this day can't remember anyone's name or the details of those files, but I'd always save them too and they were always happy I did. If someone "donated" their PC full-stop, we usually did zero out the drives without looking at them at all, but we'd only do so after we'd held onto the computer for at least 1 month, just in case the customer came back after remembering they'd left something important behind they wanted to retrieve before it was destroyed. A lot of people did just that. Just because of that experience, I tend to pause for a bit before completely obliterating anyone's stuff. You never know if you're erasing something important. Privacy takes precedence, of course, though, so *unless* the information can be redacted of anything identifying (which is time-consuming), erring on the side of clearing it all out is probably the better option.
Isn't that was history is revealing a person in tge past private info
This probably isn't a good idea, but I think that it would be cool to try contact the original owner/s of this computer and try to learn the history of it.
That'd be virtually impossible to verify unless they have the original receipts.
What about the adress on the recovered word document?
Ehhh that's a good place to start but I have a feeling the two are not one and the same. Little things here and there tell me that the person who last used this machine wasn't the most computer literate person on the planet. And computers back then we're waaay more complex.
Maybe email addresses associated with the buddy lists or something if they are connected idk
@@CopyrightStruck if Michael real want to, I surely bet he can manage to contact the person or the kids.
the amount of wholesomeness, happiness, and nostalgia this brings me is immense. especially those christmas files, the 90s to me felt like on big christmas season
Makes Me want to dig out My windows 98 PC and fire it up but got to sort out the 15 year old Dell first as that things got some use.
@@HOLLASOUNDS sadly when we moved we didn't bring the 98 Gateway :(, good luck with fixing that XP Dell tho lol
@@dnsoulx The 98 machine is in the boiler cupboard and hasn't been switched on in about 20 years. The Dell Dimension 450 I think it is sits in My front room, I was using it as a video player for DVD rips.
i love how respectful you are with the peoples belongings, making sure that you arent exposing anyones information
So glad to see a follow-up video for this PC!
I agree WOULD like to see the WINDOWS NT on this donated PC ^_^
@@x1o1Adamx2015 That would be cool to see, as I have never heard of NT before
I find these computer time capsules to be super fascinating
The voice software reminded me of a story about a company exec thought he'd get around doing the recordings by having two of the IT guys do the voice training for him. One was from the mountains of Tennessee and the other was on an H1B visa from India. Both had unique speech patterns which totally confused the system.
😆
And now I'm imagining if he'd had a Jamaican and a Scot in the mix too...
Oh wow, that looks just like one I built way back in the day
J background, J name, 👀
@@goldenblood9316 We might be onto something here....
You wouldn’t happen to know a Terry would you?
Hmm
When looking at the dates or the documents. One of them was the day before 9/11, which really surprised me and I thought I might share that in case no one else noticed. Also very cool video! It's cool to see what kind of old data was placed on an old computer that hasn't been used in years! I can only imagine that family watching this video and realizing that it was their PC with old data on it
That jingle you came up with at 20:06... that's going to be my new startup sound.
In the interest of saving rare software, please consider checking the Temporary Internet Files folder for Java (JAR/CLASS,) Director (DIR/DXR/DCR) and Flash (SWF) files. Internet content from this time period is extremely difficult to find. Always do this when you are in this situation: there are many applications that have been recovered this way.
OMG! I've completely forgotten about Lotus 1-2-3. I learned computer applications (in DOS) back in the day and that was the spreadsheet we used :)
The comic sans comes from the travel desktop theme that's applied here. They just applied the travel theme then changed the main background to that earth background. I used to like the travel background for the "BEEP BEEP" sound used for the default/change volume sound. But my favorite theme used to be "Inside Your Computer".
My personal favorite built-in theme is the Dangerous Creatures theme on Windows 98.
It always cracks me up seeing the random customization things people put on their computers :)
Like I've got just one thing changed on mine and it's that Recycle Bin is just called "me"
Man, browsing an old computer's drive can be an interesting digital time capsule.
That speech program engine is written by a belgium company called Lernhout and Hauspie, a weird name, but those 2 dudes were one of the biggest players in the early 90 to the early 2000's, but they commited a lot of fraud and they got sued eventually! Crazy to see how far their software has reached without a big online presents! Insane honestly that IBM picked it up, those dudes could've made so much money! My dad was dislectic so he almost couldn't use a regular keyboard, so he used this speech recognition software to help him write letters which was quite nifty way back in those days.
being sued and committing lots of fraud explains their only legacy as being remembered through bonzi buddy
I've seen two of Lernout and Hauspie's TTS voices in the Speech control panel of Windows XP.
It’s really cool how you found people’s memories on this computer
That space wallpaper kinda gave off the ios 4 default wallpaper vibess
I FEEL the outrage at the wolf3d folder NOT having wolfenstein 3d in it. I mean c'mon.... don't do that to someone.
I think that there was an old game called Wolf back in the day where you live the simulated life of a wolf. Maybe it was once on the PC? I actually still have that old game buried somewhere in my home as I remember playing it. There is also Lion too, I think.
On 13:48 I NEVER laughed so hard at a beefy mic before... 🤣🤣🤣
A part of me really wants a PC case like that to put a newer system into, I love the look and sound of that massive power switch lmao
These switches are great! Two of my machines have them, and they give a satisfying "clunk" from them. To me it looks like there was basically ONE company making these flick switches...
@@bad.sector Are they really expensive to get?
The cooling is pretty ttash
I had Lernout and Hauspie speech recognition in the late 90s and I remember having to read it a full chapter of a book for the speech training which took about 30 minutes. Then you just had to let it sit there for 2 hours to process the recording.
MP3 ripping and encoding, five to ten minutes for a three minute song, then a day arrived when a 200 MHz or something CPU could do it in real time, then faster than the recording time length.
Today mere seconds.
Omg, this brings back so many memories. Those wallpapers made in paint look like something that I would have done back in the day. Lol. I used to have a very similar machine to this in the early to mid 2000's with a Cyrix 6X86 CPU , Award BIOS and Windows 98 ,but it probably had a better graphics card, I don't really know as I was way too young back then, I just remeber that it was capable of running 3D games in hardware mode and it supported fairly high display resolutions. The only things that I have left from that machine are the speakers and the AT keyboard.
I would honestly love to do something like this. It just seems so fun to boot up a PC that old and find all those files.
I also love going through old windows installations. One time one of the hdd i bought from scrap gave me a bit of a shock. It was full of inappropriate images. Haha
Lucky bastard.
Not sure why I laughed so much at 13:02 with the camera shake...xD
Since it was used until possibly 2002, I wonder if there are any lost Flash games on there.
That’s actually a really good point
if there were they're gone now
This is my type of channel and it has really good content. I'm glad that I came across it. Keep up the good work Michael!
I agree dude pretty cool that Michael is doing these kinds of videos I REALLY LIKED seein the WINDOWS UPGRADE video he did from 1.0 TO WINDOWS 7 that was cool and insane (in a good way tho) XD
The FDD ribbon cable is plugged in backwards. That's why the light on the drive comes on as soon as you power the pc on and won't turn off.
That is why I turn on the "Boot up Floppy Seek" test on the BIOS. If the cable is plugged in the wrong way the POST will show an error it would also show if the floppy drive is the wrong type in or wrong drive letter plug on the ribbon cable.
Some of those floppy cables have no keys on the connectors and no 1 pin colour code on the ribbon cable.
Nice to see a tape drive from Colorado Memory Systems! I remember when Colorado Memory Systems sold to HP because at one point in time they were both in Loveland, Colorado. I went to middle school with Colorado Memory Systems' former owner's daughter.
I don't know why, but some of the edits are hilarious.
Reminds me of how I explored my dad‘s old computer. Let’s just say there were… questionable stuff on there!
QUESTIONABLE STUFF :-O :-O
What type of questionable stuff? 😳
What type of questionable stuff did your dad look at? 😳
Just one photo. And uh....yeah that says it all.@@Win98Beta.
Have to tried to find and contact the original owner ? Those files would be really emotional for them, specially the letter to santa etc. This remembers me of our first computer, kinda similar and had 2.1 GB HDD and Win95 initially (Pentium-MMX). I still got some of the weird MS-Paint drawings from that.
"Hey, what should we do with that PC that has all the personal data, accounting, addresses and so on?"
"Yyyy... give it away? Or dumpster?"
toooooowaards...
Glad I found this channel... Great to find treasures like this.
When you were flipping past the DOS folder you found, I saw a folder named GAMES. Maybe it has some interesting old games in it? 🤔
"🎵Microsoft Windows 98🎶"
That caught me offguard 😂
This was such a cool look into the life cycle of this computer and it’s hard drive between what seems like terry and his family. The fact that it’s pretty obvious it got handed down to his kids and possibly another user and then you. Thank you for this great video
This was an awesome video! I love seeing people touch on retro tech! Keep up the great work!!
That looks like one I built in 1995 with the same Cyrix processor. Windows 3.11 for a while. I actually have a box of those keyboards somewhere
I had flashbacks to playing with voice recognition, I remember being a kid with a cheap microphone and went through all that for nothing and it was so frustrating.
p.s: IBM ViaVoice is an early voice recognition program for windows 95 and 98. it cannot tap into word or notepad or any ol program, you have to use its own text editing tool called speakpad. vargskeletor joel used it in his win95 destruction video
Ferreting out info on digital timecapsules like this is one of my favorite things to do to. love the way you put it as a 'digital timecapsule' btw. too true!
Michael thanks for the great and engrossing content! I love watching your videos and hearing the story behind these things. Already LGR level IMO :)
Also this reallyy gives me nostalgia of my first computer haha.
Crazy how similar a computer made in 1996 still has the same basic capabilities as a computer made today. You got Quickbooks, Microsoft Word, Internet, games, and still has a hard drive, keyboard and mouse.
I simply love that small little michael mjd guy lmao
I would back everything up onto a flash drive on this, encrypt it so that there's no risk of their data being stolen, then if they ever reach out you could give them the flash drive and password to decrypt it
The letter to Santa is actually pretty cute
Yet another amazing video Michael! Keep up the good work, it's always so interesting
8:31 That date saying 12-17-96 was just a day after my oldest brother was born!
Nice clip, I dig these nostalgic mid-90's installs. As for NT 4.0, go for it!
This is always fun! I always wanna explore the computers that I find and see what was left behind
Love the videos! Liked and subscribed!!! Keep these vintage videos coming!
That thing with the empty wolf 3d folder was probably that whatever kid had this computer installed wolf 3d (probably the shareware version) on it and then his mom/dad (his because terry) discovered that he was playing it and then deleted it because they are the type of people that think kids can't have fun
Seems like it contracted a computer virus at some point. Unpleasant but luckily probably not a huge concern for archiving since most ancient viruses are no-longer effective on modern PC's. Just be careful if your antivirus or Windows Defender flags them because it'll try to delete everything.
"probably not a huge concern for archiving since most ancient viruses are no-longer effective on modern PC's."
Actually... You would be surprised. I saw a video from Nostalgia Nerd (ua-cam.com/video/kLan-BOybbk/v-deo.html) where many old-ass viruses did indeed still work on Windows 10.
Yeah, that might explain why performance is so awful (it shouldn't be cranking the HD constantly, even with its measley 16MB RAM) and so much stuff behaves erratically. I'd certainly not let it communicate with any network.
Na, the speed and thrashing is likely because it only has 16MB RAM in it which is far too low for such a loaded up Windows 98 install like that one. The 'not responding' is oftentimes not actual lock ups but because the system is literally too busy to report that it's working on something. He could alleviate a lot of it by bumping the RAM to 48MB or 64MB (64MB cache-able limit on 430VX boards).
Windows 9x era viruses often caused actual blue screens and much more crashing than that. It's a pretty stable system aside from the RAM.
@@arnox4554 The caveat on Nostalgia Nerd's video was he used a 32-bit install of Windows 10. 64-bit Windows won't run 16-bit DOS and Windows programs.
Though I do wonder what would happen if you ran old DOS viruses in DOSBox...
@@AaronOfMpls It would wreck the DOXBox environment, but that's probably it.
A new generation start with this machine,
New adds?, new software?, magic?, installing windows out of limits?
gorgeous pc and yes i want the nt4.0 video. maybe an nt3.51 too
it is interesting to look back to how people used computers back then
Oh for the days when everything moved to ICQ. loved that program. Also using mIRC programs to chat in different rooms on servers, much like Discord does today. In fact I think discord is based on mIRC.
I would love to see those wallpapers uploaded somewhere, especially J
With the personal information removed of course
J
When i bought my ibm aptiva in 1999 with k6-2 500 and 32mb came with via voice, used a lot with word to make documents only saying. Nice!!
Nice! I have an identical PATA 8x CD-Rom drive.
Might be noticed that the desktop font is comic sans. LMAO
I got a power macintosh that came from a collage and they left there stuff on it its kind of neat.
IBM Via Voice and Dragon Naturally Speaking was the two best voice recognition packages of the time. I got hold of a trial copy of Via Voice and can remember having so much fun with with since it reminded me so much of Star Trek. You could actually navigate the computer with it.
I couldn't get my copy working I just end up shouting at it.
OHHHH MY HEART WITH THE SANTA LETTER god im in actual tears god damn
Quaint old homebrew computer. i used to build my own back in time and they looked as good(?) as this one. Please do the NT4 install. I always loved the look and feel of that OS.
Yep, I definitely want to see the NT4 install on this
I remember this IBM via voice that came in a CD pack in my computer. I never made it work properly, it was really frustrating, so you reproduced the real experience.
I remember getting hold of that IBM speech application when it first came out, it was always as hopeless as you found it to be!
I'm having a nostalgia overload right now. :)
Give the case a repaint. The system works fine.
Great video.
A peice of history of this person, in this computer. Imagine how many school friends and stuff this guy had on AOL. My guess is that hes probably 40 now. Wherever you are Terry, we have your old computer!
That is pretty crazy. The oldest system I have is a GX270 optiplex, so a twenty year old system. That is pretty interesting something so old works, that is from 1997 or at least used around that time. Twenty six years back.
awesome find!
Windows 95/98 was built on windows 3.1.1. Alot of windows 3.1.1 remained and didn't get removed from the windows world until Windows ME so it makes sense to have alot of windows 3.1 programs still there. If windows explorer crashed you could fix it by editing the config.sys to boot to Progman (Windows 3.1) instead of Explorer. And they didn't have many 2GB hard drives until 1995/1996. So the drive would not have been moved from a windows 3.1 machine to this. It was uncommon but still in used to have AT form factors in budget computers. The Cyrix processor was also used mostly in budget computers, so that makes sense.
My first system was one of these Cyrix based systems. A 333 Mhz CPU with a 4 MB GPU 16MB RAM and an 800 MB HDD.
I would absolutely LOVE to see a vid of NT4 installed on this. Windows NT 4.0 SP6 is one of my favorite OSes!
This PC looks almost like my first x86 PC I got when I was still very young.
A 486DX2 with 2x speed CD-ROM drive, 3.5 and 5.41" floppy drive and 200 or so MB harddrive running Windows 3.11 for Workgroups.
Given this machine has been constantly upgraded, this could very well be from the same factory line.
his hand's voice is so calming
That looks almost exactly like the clearance special $300 pc I bought from CompUSA as they were closing in my hometown. It had a Cyrix 586 or 686. That was the 1st pc I bought with my own money and with a check out of a checkbook, debit cards didn’t exist yet. I’m old.
I had a couple of rigs like this in the 90's. Usually my dads hand me downs that i played DOS games and Win95 games on. Pretty much the same deal, lots of clutter and no real organization. Nowadays im a neat freak when it comes to my desktops. I was hoping to see AOE installed or even Duke3D :)
please could you do the gaming community a huge favour and look for old Runescape cache files when you boot up a pc from the mid 90s to early 00s. The community will be ever grateful if you ever find something. Theres quite sopme things that could be hidden in there we really want to find.
...what, like deleted content or something?
I would like to see what you said at the end and ya thx for the great content and keep up the good work :)
Yay more retro tech! ❤️ you know what would be super baller making a sleeper pc out of that case!
And yeah, do the NT 4 install video! I know you could need that sometime.
I was 1 month old in December 1996. This is so cool.
It's cool to see all the period-correct software still there. I've bought a Celeron 433-based PC to install MSDOS 6.22 on it and guess what I've found on the HDD? Windows freaking XP! The poor computer barely struggled to run this monster of an OS. People just don't get that old computers are better left off for old games and software, not to try and do real work on them.
I would like to see the old documents for documenting this PC because you plan to delete the HDD. Obviously personal data like addresses blurred.
Yo, I’ve been waiting for this!
I have been waiting for this since the last video