naaa nothing has matched the intensity of ranked online sim racing in vr with a DD ffb wheel.. even with rammers or just bad/rookie drivers its still worth it.. if you have a wheel get asseto corsa 1 with the dlc for like 15 buck and join LFM.. by far the best free competitive racing league
yeah especially when games been dropping frames / had reduced quality to keep up with 25 fps / you had just half of screen naaah as i remember people always wanted to break from this chore multiplayer idea of splitting screen in half, thats why pc games from around 2000 era become so popular and splitscreen been abandoned it was just temporary solution but i understand nostalgia, when u been playing with friends in real life, eating pizza and playing game on same console but i would not agree it was peak mp exp :P
The death of the Crew wasn't the first sign, but Driveclub was. So any modern game could end up in a graveyard in the near future, and you won't be able to play them to compare and see if the new ones are garbage in comparison. You can't progress unless you preserve your legacy.
Even if NFS The Run got a good single player it was too short, and to unlock most cars you still needed to play online. And don't forget about GRID Legends, it has a great single player too and the multiplayer / online is completely optional.
what? there more car locked behind online mode? lol, finished the single player mode a couple times, didn't knew about the online unlock part, only played a little bit of online as internet here suck ass back in the days
Serp, you hit the nail on the head with this one! 🎯🚗 The shift toward online-only racing games has definitely created a weird norm, and it’s refreshing to hear someone call it out. Your breakdown of why the genre needs more offline diversity is spot on. Here's hoping developers start to strike a better balance between online and offline experiences in the future! 🌐🎮
Ace Combat Infinity, you're missed... For those who don't know, it was an arcade flight-fighter that was also online-only and had its plug pulled in a similar fashion to Crew 1. Sure Ace Combat 7 came out right after, but it's still a shame no one can go back to play it because the servers got shut down. The game may have a smaller niche than racers, but it still should've been taken as a warning of things to come.
Oh AC Infinity. Free-to-play. Bought the single-player story campaign, loved the co-op online multiplayer. I remember many people hoped for SP content to be available after server shutdown. Well, still got it installed, but it just tell you in the main menu something like "thank you for playing, servers closed". Wasted money on SP content, but still, it was worth it. And yes, thanks to Infinity, there is AC 7.
I used to have a job in which I had 12h shifts 4 or 5 days a week (plus 1h commute by 2 buses and a tram in one direction) which led me to discover the ultimate relaxation technique- playing racing games on lowest difficulty while listening to audiobooks or video-essays. I'm yet to meet anyone working-age who'd contest that in any way. I recon racing games in recent years are, more often than not, aimed at people who have much too much free time.
I'm 29 and play various kinds of games. Though, I spent a lot of time on Assetto Corsa on PC for example. I do enjoy playing certain games with some ASMR or something relaxing through my ears to ease the stress of the day or to truly get into that space of ME TIME. While I love Skyrim, or something super chill, I do like to play fighting games and action rpgs to enjoy the fighting and combat. I just need to mentally unwind, which is why I don't play games that are prone to making people super ticked off or are mega hard since I want to enjoy myself, not stress out even more. It isn't worth it, but for those who can do that, that's great, it just isn't for me. I don't need some trophy or sense of accomplishment in a game, I just want to have fun and relax.
That’s what I’m saying. Like honestly who has the time to sit and complete battle passes and time limited events other than kids and complete shut ins?
That last bit about split screen multiplayer being the best advertisement really spoke to me. I discovered Driver San Francisco and Blur when I played and thoroughly enjoyed them spilt screen with someone, the former with my cousin and the latter with my childhood friend. It was these experiences that led me to get the games myself and play them for countless more hours on my own. Honestly, some of best gaming memories have been from split screen multiplayer and it’s been really sad seeing it disappear not just from racing games but from other types of games as well.
Forza Horizon 4 and 5 made me despise the idea of "social" in racing games (can't exactly be "social" between players with ramming mentality and devs censoring liveries for the sightliest amount of provocative theme). NFS Unbound made me feel like a "B-class customer" for wanting to play single player only. Gran Turismo 7 quite literally turned out to be an online shop of overpriced 3D models of cars you pay 80-100€ just to access. It's been 2 years since last racing AAA game I bought. I'm sticking to Assetto Corsa with mods, steering wheel and VR. Enjoy a drive once in a while until I go do something else.
Gran Turismo is trying to keep split screen alive. When the game launched, it only had 2 split multiplayer. But for some reason, they added an update to add 3 and 4 screen multiplayer, which is really weird but welcoming. Also, at least with Gran Turismo, when the game ends, they add the last uodate to play it offline like Gran Turismo Sport, but I would still prefer to be offline to play single player mode.
@@crestofhonor2349 Yes, a very rare thing to consider. The games people want nowadays, will go into production now, and only be ready years and years after. At which point the same people already want something different. It's almost like people think these things spawn out of thin air. Which makes sense as you rarely see the full development cycle.
Grid legends has a fantastic story mode and the multiplayer is completely optional (but incredibly fun as well), yet that game is being completely ignored by the wider racing game community.
GRID Legends could have been much more. As much as I enjoy it since it's a much better GRID 2019 I still have have my criticisms. it's just a GRID 2019 with a story mode. Since you pay around 60$ 70$ for that game that had zero market and released on the worst time possible. That's why it had fallen to obscurity.
i think forza horizon 2 and 3 did it pretty well: solid singleplayer campaigns that could also be completed in multiplayer _if you want to._ main thing it's missing is split screen
Split screen and local multiplayer, in my opinion, should still be a standard feature in games despite the rise of online gaming. Sure you can find new friends through online play, but there is still something special about being able to play with people in the same physical room. It’s not just about the games, it’s about the special memories and camaraderie you form while the playing games. You could share snacks, drinks and laughs etc. Me and my younger brother have totally different tastes in games, that’s why it’s more common for us to take turns and have time shifts whenever we were using the PlayStation our dad bought during the weekends when we were kids. But, there were the occasional times when we had fun when we play split screen or local multiplayer on certain games where we work together or have a friendly (well most of the time 😅) match. Those times and memories are irreplaceable, and those allowed me to bond with my brother.
Split screen is dead bro and u are wrong, if people want to play in same room nowadays, they just take their gear to friend house and play there all together. I can see nostalgia blinding you, but it hits so hard u are not even aware of being wrong :D
And good news, there's a new Tokyo Xtreme Racer coming up for those who want something different ! Also despite prefering solo games I'm very curious to see if TXR is gonna have multiplayer modes, that could be a great game for multiplayer
Truth be told, i don't think most of the racing game community wants story modes anymore. Any time i see posts and threads about it there are always top comments saying "why do you want story in a game about racing? just go play a story game then" and developers see this. They're not as oblivious as we'd like to think, we've simply become a minority now so online is taking priority.
Since racing games today rarely care about the story. I'm starting to appreciate them when it includes one. Especially Grid Legends with their TOCA Race Driver and Race Driver GRID homage.
Having a story makes a game have a bit more personality.Like example cod bo4 was good game.But still to this day people complain about that game having no singleplayer despite cod was always played only for multiplayer.
I don't care about story modes in most racing games and that's not an unpopular thing to say. Some games where it's fine is Need For Speed because they've had one of years now. Many other games I don't care, I just want a fun campaign mode
I love Offline-games. It give you the Opportunity for modding etc. But guess, if TDUSC had an Offline-mode and would be moddable, mods couldnt fix this pile of SH** xD
In theory this game is right. But in actuality - the audience is there. We are there playing online racing games and online games in general. I don't remember last time I played a single player game. Game companies don't make decisions based on surveys, they make them based on real data. And the data clearly says people are playing online.
Finally a opinion that we can all agree with Edit : Gran Turismo 7 got heavily criticized for always online and but everyone's nerves did settle down when GT Sport earlier this year and a offline patch at the end of January and yes they said all progress will be stored on the console and they said it twice on their official website Everyone really hoped that ubisoft will learn about perseveration when GT Sport got a offline patch before they about to kill The Crew 1 but everyone eventually gave up and The crew 1 unfortunately unplayable which left the modding community to rebuild the The crew 1 servers on PC which result that The crew 2 and Motorfest will get offline modes after so much backlash Test Drive Solar Crown is just another nail in the coffin which felt like a punishment of no pausing during events , server issues and the overpowered AI The Crew 2 and Motorfest can actual pause which I never expect
I’ve had some good times playing games online but nothing can compare to playing split screen as a kid. Some of my best childhood memories were just me and my friends meeting up every weekend to play games like Project Gotham 2 and Smackdown Vs Raw together
its not only games in general (not only racing games) having more "online or nothing" approaches, but they are getting heavier and heavier. Whether the game size and/or power required to run. I remember theres a rumour among both gamedevs and publishers of a certain AAA game if processing power optimizations are regarded as complete second thoughts.
They hardly care about releasing a properly finished product anymore, so I'd say it's closer to fact than speculation that they don't even bother with optimizing the game's resource management.
Optimization comes later in the pipeline for certain things so yes the games are being released early in the case of some AAA games. Developers know it's not ready but publishers don't care and they want to meet the deadline
The racing game blur probably imo had the best split screen mode. It would let you play with 4 people, and man it was a blast. Trying to win against your friends in a powered up styled game like Mario kart was intense. Ngl I’d love to see you make a review of Blur
Offline single player or split screen was THE way to go when we used to travel some 10 years ago. Many places didn't have wifi and still don't. If you're "stuck" with friends or family at a remote place with barely any internet, that experience goes to waste.
Split screen was truly fun but is now niche! Last time I had a splitscreen gaming experience was Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with my relative's kids on a Switch. Fun times! Online-only truly is a scourge in gaming, no matter what genre it is.
Yup, splitscreen is more niche than some people give it credit for as a lot of people would rather just play together at their own houses and it seems to be more of a thing either a family does or older friends who grew up with splitscreen. Always online also is one of the worst trends in gaming and will ruin every game it touches outside of multiplayer only game, but even then fan servers should be a thing
The last racing game that I played to a 100% was DriveClub. Never needed a connection to enjoy the single player campaign that it offered and the online features that always saved players runs and deliver those as challenges was amazing, you didn't have to commit to being online or get out. Asynchronous online features was the perfect balance for me and just receiving casual challenges kept me coming back instead of it being a dedicated mode.
The abundance of always online open world racing games is making the genre so stale. I just want some more unique arcade racers to change it up a bit. Some of my favourite ever racing games are burnout paradise and the Motorstorm trilogy as they were just pure chaotic fun with a really unique set up and to think that we are multiple years into the ps5 era and we still haven’t had anything close to the fun I had with racing games during the ps3 era
I think its strong to make a poll on a channel that seems to revolve around single player and asking the audience whether they prefer single olayer or not. I would love to see the same poll made on an iRacing youtubers channel, etc, you get the point.
I can't stand the tangline "play with your friends". I have an average circle of gamer friends and NONE of them are even remotely into racing games. Most gamers out there play conpetitive FPS or fighting games, or something else completely unrelated to motorsports. I'm not gonna be playing with friends, but with strangers
This Online-Only bullcrap needs to go, it's clear that these Devs don't know how to do them correctly to begin with. Even with a single player, they tend to screw up the whole online matchmaking to begin with.
Exactly why I’ll stick to Assetto, CarX Street dropped a month ago and you’re forced to have a online connection to play, even in settings to disable online players ghost in single player won’t do anything.
The best thing happened to me now is installing old NFS pentalogy (HP2, U, U2, Mw, C) on my old 4gb RAM machine. Trying latest mod and enjoyed them every night. Then I made video put it on my UA-cam channel (this is) and fell happy because i can share it to the world.
I would LOVE to grab one of these lead developers by the ear and show them those polls you did, then tell them to do it at scale. I guarentee the results would be the same. The stuff you're talking about in this video is the reason why I haven't played any racing games in any serious way since Wreckfest (which was AMAZING)
I think there are fundamentally 2 different groups of players in the racing game. The competitive type and those who just enjoy driving. I fall strictly in the competitive type so the only racing games I truly enjoyed in the past few years are Mario Kart 8 Delux (I don't care about being taken out by other drivers because it is what the game is about) and iRacing (it is forbidden to drive poorly). Neither of these 2 games have good single player content. I only play single player in these games to be better at multiplayer. I enjoy the way they are. I think there's a uniqueness in beating a real human. The emotion you feel when you win, lose, or crash is so much higher than any single player experience can provide. In single player racing games, winning is like grinding and losing is bad. In multiplayer games, coming second to last can be an unforgettable experience. I think it's the same reason why FPS games are now more and more multiplayer competitive focused. You don't get that many single player campaigns in FPS genre either.
I would say there's a 3rd group too, ones that enjoy both. I love being competitive yet also enjoy just playing something chill. Thing is, both are mostly only true with friends. If I play with friends who are competitive, I want to compete with them. If I play with friends who want to just drive something more relaxed, I can just chill with them. While single player campaigns and career modes can feel satisfying but if that same campaign could be achieved with real people, I think it would always be better. In a perfect world.
Some of my most fond racing game memories from growing up is splitscreen cop vs racer on Hot Pursuit 2 with my cousin. And once I grew up Halo, Gears of War and Borderlands were gold standard couch co-op that I built tons of memories on. It pains me to see it practically nonexistent in games these days.
Honestly I am sick to death of live service racing games. They suck all the fun and enjoyment out of the game by endlessly pushing you to grind and do their stupid events every week like it is an unpaid job, even going as far as forcing you to play against other players if you want that cool new car. I can appreciate a game like iRacing for what its multiplayer brings to the table (even if I think they should drop the subscription given the price of cars) but the rest of them, no thanks.
In my opinion a Racing game needs two things, a fun gameplay and a kickass soundtrack! Think about it, from the 80's till the 2010's, your favorite racing games probably resonate with these two elements, Out Run, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Need For Speed, Driver, Burnout, Gran Turismo, Forza Horizon! All it need to be is fun, a driving feel that resonates with what the game proposes, and a soundtrack, licensed or not, that fits the game and complements the joy of driving, racing or crashing. Is that simple to me.
I really wish more games had slitscreen I love that feature. Back in the early halo days I would play those campaigns nonstop with friends when they would come over.
Online is almost a requirement for racing simulators but I do agree that simcade and arcade racers can be great with a primary single player component. Great video as always
It’s baffling that racing games are going to always online and have no split-screen when there are games like Call Of Duty which still has a split-screen feature and imo it makes less sense to have split screen in an FPS game. Some of my best memories were playing the split-screen tag mode on Midnight Club 3 with my dad or playing Blur every time my cousin would visit. IMO Split-Screen should be a thing with all racing games from the jump.
I've been jumping back and forth between GT7 and GT4 and oh boy the difference between the amount of single player content between the two is astounding. The progression in GT4 is amazing, from starting off with an FF hatchback, it feels like I've earned the privilege to drive DTMs and JGTCs (currently working my way to the LMPs and open wheelers). By contrast in GT7, it feels like the single player mode is telling me "here's a bit of everything, now please go play Sport mode". Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed Sport mode from time to time but I'll always prefer playing at my own pace over going online and worrying I brake checked/rear ended someone or if they were the ones to brake check/rear end me.
I haven't watched the video yet but online play is essentially what makes people come back or just outright stay playing games these days, especially on a heavily live servicey and post content update world that we live right now. Amazing games such as Hot Wheels Unleashed 2, pretty much died out because of poorly implemented online as a lot of great indie races that don't release with a online component. Do a think it should be the main priority? Not really, but if they can make it work I know I can rely on that game for months to come.
AI is just too easy, or too hard, just like fighting games. That's why the cops AI in Most wanted feels so good to play against,they have a numbers advantage
Would never buy an offline game in 2024 as I find it incredibly boring and I like to play against other people. I actually miss text chat from Forza Horizon and if they would remove free roam races from ranked, like why is it even there it ruined the game for everyone who is looking for competition, then I would nolife the f out of it, but like this I don't even buyed FH5 after seeing no improvements from 4 and I have 0 expectations for 6 too. Would love to play a similar game to NFS World with FH elements, physics, graphics etc. I feel like every racing game is missing something which prevents me to buy any of them and we don't even have a proper street racing game with a proper ranked game mode.
Splitscreen likely isn't implemented in games like Forza because of the high graphical demands, you're effectively doubling the workload of your GPU by rendering the scene in two different perspectives and adding this functionality to a game with as complex graphics as Forza would be really hard without significantly lowering the graphical quality.
Some of my favorite memories with racing games is playing split screen on the ps3 with games like Blur and Split second the shift to online only with no split screen doesn't give me much hope for the future
finally someone shining some light on this.. I always thought I was the only one who didn't like to play online multiplayer lol. Split screen all the way!
Yeah... The lacking split-screen feature for racing games has been strange to say the least. Part of me thinks it was budget or technical limitations, but the thing is split screen has already existed for nearly every video game console out there, being PC, PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendos. Besides, these companies have plenty of money lying around so that can't be a problem either. Games aren't bad because of this, but it is confusing, I must admit. I admire your perspective on that.
Great video, online racing has its place, but for game developers it is an easy out, they no longer have to bring you a good experience, good story, characters, action sequences, they just provide you with the tools and let you seek out your own experiences, it can often leave games feeling empty and soulless.
I know I am asking to have my cake and eat it too, but I would like racing game devs to realise that the "multiplayer" someone like me wants is to simply play with friends or in curated leagues. The always online, drop into rando's lobbies nonsense is not the multiplayer I have in mind when I think of playing a multiplayer game. My friends and I racing against each other, with maybe some AI added to spice things up, is what I want out a racing game. Unfortunately even top end Sim games can't achieve that basic dream.
I've always been something of a Crew apologist, I love what those games were trying to do, but their online focus was something that frustrated me, especially when TC1 did what we always knew it would do and got take down. On that part I'm glad that Ivory Tower seems to be listening and wants to preserve their games, as they announced both TC2 and TCM will get offline patches. But nothing on TC1. I never really liked buying multiplayer only games, I grew up without Internet so it was never an option. When I finally moved to the city and had internet I bought the crew games out of curiosity for dirt cheap, but it's also been a slap in the face for why always online is a mistake. And even if always online isn't a thing, your point on how it affects the campaigns life Forza or NFS unbound is spot on, both of those games disappointed me for feeling recycled. I hope all that changes in the coming years, but I will say it's not all gloom and doom, the indie scene may not hit the highs a triple A budget can, but there's lots of small scale, complete racing games out there that evoke that PS2 "just pick up and play" feel. Great video guys, looking forward to the next one! ♥️
The best experience is still burnout revenge when it comes to singleplayer racing games and split screen too. Played 1000 hours or maybe more. 100% it now on Xenia emulator ( definitely recommend it ) still feels superb.
racing online can be the best or the worst thing the best when playing vs ur friends and the best when splitscreen the worst is litterally doing anything online with randoms
sad to know splitscreen doesn't reign anymore and it's only an afterthought if at all, yeah i already feel old when i say "gamers nowadays won't know what splitscreen is anymore" but i think we can at least do something about the online only problem, since that's been a constant threat latelly.
The sad Thing is that this isn’t even a problem for Racing Games only and that not since recently either. Alot of Online Games cant really be accessed or lose their Purpose because the Servers have either been shutdown or because the The Crew Scenario happened… A few „now mostly or completely unplayable“ Games are Club Penguin, PS Home, ModNation Racers or of course The Crew 1 just to name a few. And its also a Shame that the Devs or Studios behind the Games mostly completely forget about those Games and dont even try to bring the Games back via making a new Title or ofc try to make the Servers alive again…
That entire polling section was just... I was on board with everything you had to say up until that point. Don't get me wrong, game ownership is better than buying a revokable temporary pass. Split screen takes nothing away from the rest of the game, but claiming that devs are making games for no one because 91% of casuals prefer solo play is elite gymnastics. If you could find a single, even one, person invested in the racing game genre, and by invested I mean they own a simrig, and they said they prefer couch co-op to online I would be baffled.
I re-installed forza motorsport 7 because my 60 year old dad wanted to play splitscreen on my xbox. My dad had a awesome time. We had so much fun driving on Nürburgring nordsliefe over and over again 😁 Its sad that they removed it from the latest installment. I hate always online, GAAS and Game passes. It is very depressing.
as someone who is currently smashing out GT4 Spec II i wholeheartedly agree that the lack of offline features is a huge disappointment and detractor to modern racing games for me.
I would argue that Unbound did launch with a focus on single player, its online was so barebones you had to focus on the story to enjoy it. Its updates however...
I was gonna mention Trackmania, but I'm pretty the Newest one doesn't have any Single player campaign. Turbo is still my favorite (Yeah I know, its the only other one on Console).
I cant stand playing NFS 2015, but i KNOW that's the next game on the chopping block, and since the original dev is DEAD, there's no way it get an offline patch, and that's very sad. I dont think that game deserves to die just because EA fucked it over
1: because it supports community engagement, example: Forza with the trial and its multiplayer, and NFS Hot Pursuit with its online pursuit. 2: No one can’t make good AI anymore
its because of money, games are expensive to create. splitscreen means 1 bought copy can be used for 2 to 4 players, thats lost revenue, gotta make everyone buy a copy to offset the sky high cost of its creation.
I was unfortunate enough to encounter the B class ferrari pista in nfs Unbound, the ferrari was never interested in winning the race, instead he only wanted to torment and harass other players, after getting constantly rammed non-stop and brake checked, i stopped to let him through but he still insisted on continuing to harass me, added with horrendous drift handling when played on keyboard, i alt-f4'ed out of there. It was by far my worst online racing experience i ever had in my life. Even Gta Online has the amazing non-contact races, how tf can't a pure car focused game title like nfs cant implement such a easy solution blows my mind. Sad time to be a racing game enjoyer nowadays... 🏎🏁
I think calling Forza Motorsport a train wreck at this point is plain ignorant. With all the updates and added content they have done a 180 with that game! It makes me think you are not paying attention.
WE DON'T WANT MORE RACING MMO'S! I don't understand how so many of these video game companies are just trying to copy the same formula of Forza Horizon. I'm done buying new games until they do away with the always online necessity. I don't want to lose my games when the publisher decides it doesn't make them enough money anymore. I'd much rather stick to my PS2 stuff where I'll have those games forever.
all this talk about split screen but you forgot to consider one thing, not many people nowadays got friends "close enough" to play games with everyday, or simply just don't have any friends at all, and the modern video games reflect that by having online multiplayer so you play with random people without having to be social in real life
For me online only= Buy under 10$ if they can shut it down whenever, they don't deserve a cent over 10$. I paid over 100$ for The crew 1 and got what i deserved for trusting corpos, never again.
6:07 still mad about Sony for delisting Drive club, but at least it’s playable offline but none of the dlc can be bought now 😢 even the offline only ones
I'd pick playing single player against braindead AI opponents over being rammed off the road by a 12 year old with anger issues any day of the year.
Same! Single Player Only!
naaa nothing has matched the intensity of ranked online sim racing in vr with a DD ffb wheel.. even with rammers or just bad/rookie drivers its still worth it.. if you have a wheel get asseto corsa 1 with the dlc for like 15 buck and join LFM.. by far the best free competitive racing league
GTA V has the option of Non-Contact in their Online Races.
yea I freaking hate those people abusing checkpoint in Forza Horizon, those unskilled swine only knows "ram to win".
@@SouthernR0cker4Lifenobody cares about gta racing.
split screen is peak multiplayer experience
True, i spent long hours playing Crash Time 5 : Undercover split screen with 2 of my older brothers, truly an unforgetable experience
That is why Mario kart is still a legit multi-player racing game.
Absolutely
yeah especially when games been dropping frames / had reduced quality to keep up with 25 fps / you had just half of screen
naaah as i remember people always wanted to break from this chore multiplayer idea of splitting screen in half, thats why pc games from around 2000 era become so popular and splitscreen been abandoned
it was just temporary solution but i understand nostalgia, when u been playing with friends in real life, eating pizza and playing game on same console
but i would not agree it was peak mp exp :P
The death of the Crew wasn't the first sign, but Driveclub was. So any modern game could end up in a graveyard in the near future, and you won't be able to play them to compare and see if the new ones are garbage in comparison. You can't progress unless you preserve your legacy.
Incredible Game. Even today, driving in rain in that game is unrivaled
You can still play Driveclub today I play it from time to time.
@@bagelbomb1887 Yeah, I game on PC now. My playstation is busted. Hopefully soon Ps4 emulation gets better
Driveclub, despite the studio being disbanded and servers havinng shut offYou can grab a copy and run it just fine.
@@bagelbomb1887 If I bought a disc copy of Driveclub today, how much game is there? How much is missing?
Even if NFS The Run got a good single player it was too short, and to unlock most cars you still needed to play online.
And don't forget about GRID Legends, it has a great single player too and the multiplayer / online is completely optional.
But hey, there's the Wii version with its split-screen multiplayer, even if that version isn't good.
I love the run🎉
@@spongebobfan78better than the 'mainstream' version tbh
what? there more car locked behind online mode?
lol, finished the single player mode a couple times, didn't knew about the online unlock part, only played a little bit of online as internet here suck ass back in the days
Serp, you hit the nail on the head with this one! 🎯🚗 The shift toward online-only racing games has definitely created a weird norm, and it’s refreshing to hear someone call it out. Your breakdown of why the genre needs more offline diversity is spot on. Here's hoping developers start to strike a better balance between online and offline experiences in the future! 🌐🎮
Ace Combat Infinity, you're missed...
For those who don't know, it was an arcade flight-fighter that was also online-only and had its plug pulled in a similar fashion to Crew 1. Sure Ace Combat 7 came out right after, but it's still a shame no one can go back to play it because the servers got shut down. The game may have a smaller niche than racers, but it still should've been taken as a warning of things to come.
Oh AC Infinity. Free-to-play. Bought the single-player story campaign, loved the co-op online multiplayer. I remember many people hoped for SP content to be available after server shutdown. Well, still got it installed, but it just tell you in the main menu something like "thank you for playing, servers closed". Wasted money on SP content, but still, it was worth it. And yes, thanks to Infinity, there is AC 7.
I used to have a job in which I had 12h shifts 4 or 5 days a week (plus 1h commute by 2 buses and a tram in one direction) which led me to discover the ultimate relaxation technique- playing racing games on lowest difficulty while listening to audiobooks or video-essays. I'm yet to meet anyone working-age who'd contest that in any way. I recon racing games in recent years are, more often than not, aimed at people who have much too much free time.
I'm 29 and play various kinds of games. Though, I spent a lot of time on Assetto Corsa on PC for example. I do enjoy playing certain games with some ASMR or something relaxing through my ears to ease the stress of the day or to truly get into that space of ME TIME. While I love Skyrim, or something super chill, I do like to play fighting games and action rpgs to enjoy the fighting and combat. I just need to mentally unwind, which is why I don't play games that are prone to making people super ticked off or are mega hard since I want to enjoy myself, not stress out even more. It isn't worth it, but for those who can do that, that's great, it just isn't for me. I don't need some trophy or sense of accomplishment in a game, I just want to have fun and relax.
I work 13hours a day, commute 1.5 hours a day with my bike, then listening to youtube videos while driving in forza 4 for 45minutes before sleep.
That’s what I’m saying. Like honestly who has the time to sit and complete battle passes and time limited events other than kids and complete shut ins?
@@hey_manny I've yet to see battlepasses or time limited events that are mandatory in a game. Just sounds like you're suffering from FOMO?
@@TunaIRL I was talking specifically about NFS Unbound which not only has both but all it’s new content tied exclusively to multiplayer
That last bit about split screen multiplayer being the best advertisement really spoke to me. I discovered Driver San Francisco and Blur when I played and thoroughly enjoyed them spilt screen with someone, the former with my cousin and the latter with my childhood friend. It was these experiences that led me to get the games myself and play them for countless more hours on my own.
Honestly, some of best gaming memories have been from split screen multiplayer and it’s been really sad seeing it disappear not just from racing games but from other types of games as well.
Forza Horizon 4 and 5 made me despise the idea of "social" in racing games (can't exactly be "social" between players with ramming mentality and devs censoring liveries for the sightliest amount of provocative theme). NFS Unbound made me feel like a "B-class customer" for wanting to play single player only. Gran Turismo 7 quite literally turned out to be an online shop of overpriced 3D models of cars you pay 80-100€ just to access.
It's been 2 years since last racing AAA game I bought. I'm sticking to Assetto Corsa with mods, steering wheel and VR. Enjoy a drive once in a while until I go do something else.
Gran Turismo is trying to keep split screen alive. When the game launched, it only had 2 split multiplayer. But for some reason, they added an update to add 3 and 4 screen multiplayer, which is really weird but welcoming.
Also, at least with Gran Turismo, when the game ends, they add the last uodate to play it offline like Gran Turismo Sport, but I would still prefer to be offline to play single player mode.
The gaming industry always seems to be about 5 or 6 years behind on what customers actually want.
Considering how long some games take to make it's no surprise that the games we actually want sometimes are in early development now
@@crestofhonor2349 Yes, a very rare thing to consider. The games people want nowadays, will go into production now, and only be ready years and years after. At which point the same people already want something different. It's almost like people think these things spawn out of thin air. Which makes sense as you rarely see the full development cycle.
Don't forget LAN multiplayer, and player-hosted servers, neither of which rely on the game being supported
*Release almost exclusively online only games
Executives: wow almost everybody plays online only games, they must love it!
Grid legends has a fantastic story mode and the multiplayer is completely optional (but incredibly fun as well), yet that game is being completely ignored by the wider racing game community.
this, grid legends is unironically one of the best recent racing games
GRID Legends could have been much more. As much as I enjoy it since it's a much better GRID 2019 I still have have my criticisms. it's just a GRID 2019 with a story mode. Since you pay around 60$ 70$ for that game that had zero market and released on the worst time possible. That's why it had fallen to obscurity.
They removed Moscow or Renamed it to something Fictional? No? then it should not even be on Sale!
Because it didn't had good marketing and also released on when many popular game released like elden ring.
Yes! I enjoyed Grid Legends more than the F1 breakpoint campaign. That was a fun single-player experience.
i think forza horizon 2 and 3 did it pretty well: solid singleplayer campaigns that could also be completed in multiplayer _if you want to._ main thing it's missing is split screen
my best memories of racing was playing gt sport with my friends using 2 player split screen, not having it as an option at all is criminal.
TDUSC/Nacon successfully created the world's first single player MMO
I don't think it was so successful...
MMS, not MMO. Massive Multiplayer Sh*t.
Motorfest and The Crew 2 will get an offline patch and will still be playable, so I think the crew in the future will go this way from now on
Offline Installers as well! :)
online only is great for companies since you can stop mods by threatening a ban, forcing people do buy cars one at a time.
They cannot stop mods now Sony *Lost* their Court Case, mods are now considered *Legal* !
@@simeonyves5940 what court case?
Split screen and local multiplayer, in my opinion, should still be a standard feature in games despite the rise of online gaming. Sure you can find new friends through online play, but there is still something special about being able to play with people in the same physical room. It’s not just about the games, it’s about the special memories and camaraderie you form while the playing games. You could share snacks, drinks and laughs etc.
Me and my younger brother have totally different tastes in games, that’s why it’s more common for us to take turns and have time shifts whenever we were using the PlayStation our dad bought during the weekends when we were kids. But, there were the occasional times when we had fun when we play split screen or local multiplayer on certain games where we work together or have a friendly (well most of the time 😅) match. Those times and memories are irreplaceable, and those allowed me to bond with my brother.
Split screen is dead bro and u are wrong, if people want to play in same room nowadays, they just take their gear to friend house and play there all together.
I can see nostalgia blinding you, but it hits so hard u are not even aware of being wrong :D
And good news, there's a new Tokyo Xtreme Racer coming up for those who want something different ! Also despite prefering solo games I'm very curious to see if TXR is gonna have multiplayer modes, that could be a great game for multiplayer
Truth be told, i don't think most of the racing game community wants story modes anymore. Any time i see posts and threads about it there are always top comments saying "why do you want story in a game about racing? just go play a story game then" and developers see this. They're not as oblivious as we'd like to think, we've simply become a minority now so online is taking priority.
Usually because the story modes in racing games end up being boringly generic or just actually trash. You rarely see ones that are good to excellent.
Since racing games today rarely care about the story. I'm starting to appreciate them when it includes one. Especially Grid Legends with their TOCA Race Driver and Race Driver GRID homage.
A single-player mode does not necessarily mean a story. What many people want is simply a motivating, fun campaign with motivating progression.
Having a story makes a game have a bit more personality.Like example cod bo4 was good game.But still to this day people complain about that game having no singleplayer despite cod was always played only for multiplayer.
I don't care about story modes in most racing games and that's not an unpopular thing to say. Some games where it's fine is Need For Speed because they've had one of years now. Many other games I don't care, I just want a fun campaign mode
I’m surprised this video didn’t bring up F1, GRID, DiRT or WRC which all have extensive single player content. F1 and GRID also have split-screen.
I love Offline-games. It give you the Opportunity for modding etc. But guess, if TDUSC had an Offline-mode and would be moddable, mods couldnt fix this pile of SH** xD
In theory this game is right. But in actuality - the audience is there. We are there playing online racing games and online games in general. I don't remember last time I played a single player game. Game companies don't make decisions based on surveys, they make them based on real data. And the data clearly says people are playing online.
Finally a opinion that we can all agree with
Edit : Gran Turismo 7 got heavily criticized for always online and but everyone's nerves did settle down when GT Sport earlier this year and a offline patch at the end of January and yes they said all progress will be stored on the console and they said it twice on their official website
Everyone really hoped that ubisoft will learn about perseveration when GT Sport got a offline patch before they about to kill The Crew 1 but everyone eventually gave up and The crew 1 unfortunately unplayable which left the modding community to rebuild the The crew 1 servers on PC which result that The crew 2 and Motorfest will get offline modes after so much backlash
Test Drive Solar Crown is just another nail in the coffin which felt like a punishment of no pausing during events , server issues and the overpowered AI
The Crew 2 and Motorfest can actual pause which I never expect
I’ve had some good times playing games online but nothing can compare to playing split screen as a kid. Some of my best childhood memories were just me and my friends meeting up every weekend to play games like Project Gotham 2 and Smackdown Vs Raw together
The problem with splitscreen (from the point of devs/publishers view) is that 2 people can play while owning one copy, such a no no nowadays
its not only games in general (not only racing games) having more "online or nothing" approaches, but they are getting heavier and heavier. Whether the game size and/or power required to run.
I remember theres a rumour among both gamedevs and publishers of a certain AAA game if processing power optimizations are regarded as complete second thoughts.
They hardly care about releasing a properly finished product anymore, so I'd say it's closer to fact than speculation that they don't even bother with optimizing the game's resource management.
Optimization comes later in the pipeline for certain things so yes the games are being released early in the case of some AAA games. Developers know it's not ready but publishers don't care and they want to meet the deadline
The racing game blur probably imo had the best split screen mode. It would let you play with 4 people, and man it was a blast. Trying to win against your friends in a powered up styled game like Mario kart was intense. Ngl I’d love to see you make a review of Blur
Offline single player or split screen was THE way to go when we used to travel some 10 years ago. Many places didn't have wifi and still don't. If you're "stuck" with friends or family at a remote place with barely any internet, that experience goes to waste.
Split screen was truly fun but is now niche! Last time I had a splitscreen gaming experience was Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with my relative's kids on a Switch. Fun times!
Online-only truly is a scourge in gaming, no matter what genre it is.
Yup, splitscreen is more niche than some people give it credit for as a lot of people would rather just play together at their own houses and it seems to be more of a thing either a family does or older friends who grew up with splitscreen. Always online also is one of the worst trends in gaming and will ruin every game it touches outside of multiplayer only game, but even then fan servers should be a thing
The last racing game that I played to a 100% was DriveClub. Never needed a connection to enjoy the single player campaign that it offered and the online features that always saved players runs and deliver those as challenges was amazing, you didn't have to commit to being online or get out. Asynchronous online features was the perfect balance for me and just receiving casual challenges kept me coming back instead of it being a dedicated mode.
The abundance of always online open world racing games is making the genre so stale. I just want some more unique arcade racers to change it up a bit. Some of my favourite ever racing games are burnout paradise and the Motorstorm trilogy as they were just pure chaotic fun with a really unique set up and to think that we are multiple years into the ps5 era and we still haven’t had anything close to the fun I had with racing games during the ps3 era
I think its strong to make a poll on a channel that seems to revolve around single player and asking the audience whether they prefer single olayer or not. I would love to see the same poll made on an iRacing youtubers channel, etc, you get the point.
I can't stand the tangline "play with your friends". I have an average circle of gamer friends and NONE of them are even remotely into racing games. Most gamers out there play conpetitive FPS or fighting games, or something else completely unrelated to motorsports. I'm not gonna be playing with friends, but with strangers
*"You'll own nothing and be happy."*
- Klaus Schwab
This Online-Only bullcrap needs to go, it's clear that these Devs don't know how to do them correctly to begin with. Even with a single player, they tend to screw up the whole online matchmaking to begin with.
Short answer is of course to boost sale. I remmember playing Motorstorm Apocalypse with my little bro for hours on my ps3, missed that time
That’s a really good point. I had so much fun playing games like Blur with family and friends. I wish split screen could return, especially to NFS.
I love when I buy and get to play with my brother or friends split screen so game devs please keep split screen
Exactly why I’ll stick to Assetto, CarX Street dropped a month ago and you’re forced to have a online connection to play, even in settings to disable online players ghost in single player won’t do anything.
The best thing happened to me now is installing old NFS pentalogy (HP2, U, U2, Mw, C) on my old 4gb RAM machine. Trying latest mod and enjoyed them every night. Then I made video put it on my UA-cam channel (this is) and fell happy because i can share it to the world.
I would LOVE to grab one of these lead developers by the ear and show them those polls you did, then tell them to do it at scale.
I guarentee the results would be the same.
The stuff you're talking about in this video is the reason why I haven't played any racing games in any serious way since Wreckfest (which was AMAZING)
so hoping that wteckfest 2 to be good as well ?
@@cvgabriel I'm sure it will be. BugBear has rarely, if ever, missed. They are a great dev from previous history
I think there are fundamentally 2 different groups of players in the racing game. The competitive type and those who just enjoy driving. I fall strictly in the competitive type so the only racing games I truly enjoyed in the past few years are Mario Kart 8 Delux (I don't care about being taken out by other drivers because it is what the game is about) and iRacing (it is forbidden to drive poorly). Neither of these 2 games have good single player content. I only play single player in these games to be better at multiplayer. I enjoy the way they are.
I think there's a uniqueness in beating a real human. The emotion you feel when you win, lose, or crash is so much higher than any single player experience can provide. In single player racing games, winning is like grinding and losing is bad. In multiplayer games, coming second to last can be an unforgettable experience. I think it's the same reason why FPS games are now more and more multiplayer competitive focused. You don't get that many single player campaigns in FPS genre either.
I would say there's a 3rd group too, ones that enjoy both. I love being competitive yet also enjoy just playing something chill. Thing is, both are mostly only true with friends. If I play with friends who are competitive, I want to compete with them. If I play with friends who want to just drive something more relaxed, I can just chill with them.
While single player campaigns and career modes can feel satisfying but if that same campaign could be achieved with real people, I think it would always be better. In a perfect world.
Some of my most fond racing game memories from growing up is splitscreen cop vs racer on Hot Pursuit 2 with my cousin. And once I grew up Halo, Gears of War and Borderlands were gold standard couch co-op that I built tons of memories on. It pains me to see it practically nonexistent in games these days.
Not really a fair jab at FM8 considering its improvements.
Honestly I am sick to death of live service racing games. They suck all the fun and enjoyment out of the game by endlessly pushing you to grind and do their stupid events every week like it is an unpaid job, even going as far as forcing you to play against other players if you want that cool new car. I can appreciate a game like iRacing for what its multiplayer brings to the table (even if I think they should drop the subscription given the price of cars) but the rest of them, no thanks.
I’ll be honest I don’t like online racing game actually
In my opinion a Racing game needs two things, a fun gameplay and a kickass soundtrack!
Think about it, from the 80's till the 2010's, your favorite racing games probably resonate with these two elements, Out Run, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Need For Speed, Driver, Burnout, Gran Turismo, Forza Horizon!
All it need to be is fun, a driving feel that resonates with what the game proposes, and a soundtrack, licensed or not, that fits the game and complements the joy of driving, racing or crashing.
Is that simple to me.
This is why i am an active patron of night runners. It isn't going to reach a huge audience, but that's the point. It has soul.
I really wish more games had slitscreen I love that feature. Back in the early halo days I would play those campaigns nonstop with friends when they would come over.
Online is almost a requirement for racing simulators but I do agree that simcade and arcade racers can be great with a primary single player component.
Great video as always
It’s baffling that racing games are going to always online and have no split-screen when there are games like Call Of Duty which still has a split-screen feature and imo it makes less sense to have split screen in an FPS game. Some of my best memories were playing the split-screen tag mode on Midnight Club 3 with my dad or playing Blur every time my cousin would visit. IMO Split-Screen should be a thing with all racing games from the jump.
I've been jumping back and forth between GT7 and GT4 and oh boy the difference between the amount of single player content between the two is astounding. The progression in GT4 is amazing, from starting off with an FF hatchback, it feels like I've earned the privilege to drive DTMs and JGTCs (currently working my way to the LMPs and open wheelers).
By contrast in GT7, it feels like the single player mode is telling me "here's a bit of everything, now please go play Sport mode". Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed Sport mode from time to time but I'll always prefer playing at my own pace over going online and worrying I brake checked/rear ended someone or if they were the ones to brake check/rear end me.
I haven't watched the video yet but online play is essentially what makes people come back or just outright stay playing games these days, especially on a heavily live servicey and post content update world that we live right now. Amazing games such as Hot Wheels Unleashed 2, pretty much died out because of poorly implemented online as a lot of great indie races that don't release with a online component. Do a think it should be the main priority? Not really, but if they can make it work I know I can rely on that game for months to come.
AI is just too easy, or too hard, just like fighting games. That's why the cops AI in Most wanted feels so good to play against,they have a numbers advantage
Would never buy an offline game in 2024 as I find it incredibly boring and I like to play against other people. I actually miss text chat from Forza Horizon and if they would remove free roam races from ranked, like why is it even there it ruined the game for everyone who is looking for competition, then I would nolife the f out of it, but like this I don't even buyed FH5 after seeing no improvements from 4 and I have 0 expectations for 6 too. Would love to play a similar game to NFS World with FH elements, physics, graphics etc. I feel like every racing game is missing something which prevents me to buy any of them and we don't even have a proper street racing game with a proper ranked game mode.
Splitscreen likely isn't implemented in games like Forza because of the high graphical demands, you're effectively doubling the workload of your GPU by rendering the scene in two different perspectives and adding this functionality to a game with as complex graphics as Forza would be really hard without significantly lowering the graphical quality.
Some of my favorite memories with racing games is playing split screen on the ps3 with games like Blur and Split second the shift to online only with no split screen doesn't give me much hope for the future
finally someone shining some light on this.. I always thought I was the only one who didn't like to play online multiplayer lol. Split screen all the way!
NGL I never expected GT7 to have 4 player splitscreen on ps5 AND working 2 player splitscreen on fucking PS4
PD are wizards in this regard
Yeah... The lacking split-screen feature for racing games has been strange to say the least. Part of me thinks it was budget or technical limitations, but the thing is split screen has already existed for nearly every video game console out there, being PC, PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendos. Besides, these companies have plenty of money lying around so that can't be a problem either. Games aren't bad because of this, but it is confusing, I must admit. I admire your perspective on that.
SICK VIDEO! still the most underrated channel
Thank you, means a lot!
Great video, online racing has its place, but for game developers it is an easy out, they no longer have to bring you a good experience, good story, characters, action sequences, they just provide you with the tools and let you seek out your own experiences, it can often leave games feeling empty and soulless.
it was the time we played `hot seat` in underground 2 with my 6 friends. we would just each do a race in order
I guess you won, best car related thumbnail is this
The only recent racing game I've played with split screen is F1 22. Crazy how everything else has thrown that away
I know I am asking to have my cake and eat it too, but I would like racing game devs to realise that the "multiplayer" someone like me wants is to simply play with friends or in curated leagues. The always online, drop into rando's lobbies nonsense is not the multiplayer I have in mind when I think of playing a multiplayer game. My friends and I racing against each other, with maybe some AI added to spice things up, is what I want out a racing game. Unfortunately even top end Sim games can't achieve that basic dream.
I've always been something of a Crew apologist, I love what those games were trying to do, but their online focus was something that frustrated me, especially when TC1 did what we always knew it would do and got take down.
On that part I'm glad that Ivory Tower seems to be listening and wants to preserve their games, as they announced both TC2 and TCM will get offline patches. But nothing on TC1.
I never really liked buying multiplayer only games, I grew up without Internet so it was never an option. When I finally moved to the city and had internet I bought the crew games out of curiosity for dirt cheap, but it's also been a slap in the face for why always online is a mistake. And even if always online isn't a thing, your point on how it affects the campaigns life Forza or NFS unbound is spot on, both of those games disappointed me for feeling recycled.
I hope all that changes in the coming years, but I will say it's not all gloom and doom, the indie scene may not hit the highs a triple A budget can, but there's lots of small scale, complete racing games out there that evoke that PS2 "just pick up and play" feel.
Great video guys, looking forward to the next one! ♥️
Thank you thank you, hoping for a better future indeed
The best experience is still burnout revenge when it comes to singleplayer racing games and split screen too. Played 1000 hours or maybe more. 100% it now on Xenia emulator ( definitely recommend it ) still feels superb.
racing online can be the best or the worst thing
the best when playing vs ur friends and the best when splitscreen
the worst is litterally doing anything online with randoms
7:00 FM2023 got cracked with online only too
sad to know splitscreen doesn't reign anymore and it's only an afterthought if at all, yeah i already feel old when i say "gamers nowadays won't know what splitscreen is anymore"
but i think we can at least do something about the online only problem, since that's been a constant threat latelly.
Don't forget about Hot pursuit remastered my friend being completely playable offline with an amazing single player experience
The sad Thing is that this isn’t even a problem for Racing Games only and that not since recently either. Alot of Online Games cant really be accessed or lose their Purpose because the Servers have either been shutdown or because the The Crew Scenario happened… A few „now mostly or completely unplayable“ Games are Club Penguin, PS Home, ModNation Racers or of course The Crew 1 just to name a few.
And its also a Shame that the Devs or Studios behind the Games mostly completely forget about those Games and dont even try to bring the Games back via making a new Title or ofc try to make the Servers alive again…
That entire polling section was just...
I was on board with everything you had to say up until that point. Don't get me wrong, game ownership is better than buying a revokable temporary pass. Split screen takes nothing away from the rest of the game, but claiming that devs are making games for no one because 91% of casuals prefer solo play is elite gymnastics.
If you could find a single, even one, person invested in the racing game genre, and by invested I mean they own a simrig, and they said they prefer couch co-op to online I would be baffled.
Updates and live-service has never been a good idea in my eyes
WE NEED GAMES TO JUST COME COMPLETE AGAIN!!!!
UPDATES ARE STUPID!
WE NEED GAMES THAT ARE BUILT FOR YOU TO *HAVE FUN*
NOT FOR A *COMPANY'S WALLET*
Live Services should be *illegal* IMO!
Devs also need to give GOG a chance to publish there
I re-installed forza motorsport 7 because my 60 year old dad wanted to play splitscreen on my xbox. My dad had a awesome time. We had so much fun driving on Nürburgring nordsliefe over and over again 😁
Its sad that they removed it from the latest installment.
I hate always online, GAAS and Game passes.
It is very depressing.
Always Online DRM should be *illegal* as far as I am concerned!
as someone who is currently smashing out GT4 Spec II i wholeheartedly agree that the lack of offline features is a huge disappointment and detractor to modern racing games for me.
Cause we live in 2024 and its not 1990 anymore.
Deal with it.
I would argue that Unbound did launch with a focus on single player, its online was so barebones you had to focus on the story to enjoy it.
Its updates however...
I was gonna mention Trackmania, but I'm pretty the Newest one doesn't have any Single player campaign. Turbo is still my favorite (Yeah I know, its the only other one on Console).
I cant stand playing NFS 2015, but i KNOW that's the next game on the chopping block, and since the original dev is DEAD, there's no way it get an offline patch, and that's very sad. I dont think that game deserves to die just because EA fucked it over
1: because it supports community engagement, example: Forza with the trial and its multiplayer, and NFS Hot Pursuit with its online pursuit.
2: No one can’t make good AI anymore
split screen = one game copy, no split screen = 2 game copies, console subscription service, and whatever else that makes money w it
its because of money, games are expensive to create. splitscreen means 1 bought copy can be used for 2 to 4 players, thats lost revenue, gotta make everyone buy a copy to offset the sky high cost of its creation.
Even Asphalt Legends being online pay to win game have split screen multiplayer, but on Switch only, which is kinda sad
Just give me a single player campaign like Gran Turismo 4. Is that too much to ask for😭?
"Not Profitable enough" -Sony Computer Entertainment America :(
Me personally I never cared for splitscreen since I never had someone to play with and didn't affected me that much
I was unfortunate enough to encounter the B class ferrari pista in nfs Unbound, the ferrari was never interested in winning the race, instead he only wanted to torment and harass other players, after getting constantly rammed non-stop and brake checked, i stopped to let him through but he still insisted on continuing to harass me, added with horrendous drift handling when played on keyboard, i alt-f4'ed out of there. It was by far my worst online racing experience i ever had in my life.
Even Gta Online has the amazing non-contact races, how tf can't a pure car focused game title like nfs cant implement such a easy solution blows my mind. Sad time to be a racing game enjoyer nowadays... 🏎🏁
All I want is NFS Underground drag racing, free roam and most wanted police chases.
1:24 Not to mention F1 20 21 22 23 24 Has Split screen along with working Ray Tracing
while FM8 didnt
Codemasters Liverpool are a Reasonably Competent, if *very greedy* Developer. Turn 10 (in name only) are Utterly Incompetent however!
I think calling Forza Motorsport a train wreck at this point is plain ignorant. With all the updates and added content they have done a 180 with that game! It makes me think you are not paying attention.
WE DON'T WANT MORE RACING MMO'S! I don't understand how so many of these video game companies are just trying to copy the same formula of Forza Horizon.
I'm done buying new games until they do away with the always online necessity. I don't want to lose my games when the publisher decides it doesn't make them enough money anymore. I'd much rather stick to my PS2 stuff where I'll have those games forever.
my hobkin friend recently got exclusive acess to solar crown, and just seeing people complain about solar crown is making me worried for him.
all this talk about split screen but you forgot to consider one thing, not many people nowadays got friends "close enough" to play games with everyday, or simply just don't have any friends at all, and the modern video games reflect that by having online multiplayer so you play with random people without having to be social in real life
Wich is pretty f****** sad if you think about it.
True
For me online only= Buy under 10$ if they can shut it down whenever, they don't deserve a cent over 10$. I paid over 100$ for The crew 1 and got what i deserved for trusting corpos, never again.
6:07 still mad about Sony for delisting Drive club, but at least it’s playable offline but none of the dlc can be bought now 😢 even the offline only ones