Sonic Frontiers 2

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024

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  • @BWHERE
    @BWHERE  7 годин тому +20

    Do you guys like this version of Sonic Frontiers 2? What would you change? And would you want to see me tackle a potential Sonic Adventure 3?

    • @DaveMan1K
      @DaveMan1K 5 годин тому +1

      I'd buy this game, day 1.
      I've actually been brainstorming a hypothetical "Tails Adventure" game, carrying on from his desire at the end of Frontiers to venture out on his own.

    • @BulelaNgumle
      @BulelaNgumle 5 годин тому +2

      If you were ever thinking about a video on Sonic adventure 3 I'd love Silver to be involved as he definitely deserves to be in more games.

    • @mrstickmantas
      @mrstickmantas 4 години тому

      Pls do sa3 you cooked so hard here

    • @Yoshi4Ever723
      @Yoshi4Ever723 2 години тому +2

      Yes This Pitch Is Awesome & I Would Love To See Your Pitch For A Possible Sonic Adventure 3

    • @dionebrinkley5551
      @dionebrinkley5551 Годину тому

      I want sonic to get another new form in sonic frontiers 2

  • @sentientmustache8360
    @sentientmustache8360 9 годин тому +68

    I’d turn the Super form into more of a traversal tool for both the stages and the overworld, just like the Doom Wings from Shadow Gens

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  8 годин тому +16

      Cool idea!

    • @Maxjb1242
      @Maxjb1242 7 годин тому +7

      I like that idea but what about using the cyber energy to zap through the stages and overworld, giving something we didn’t see much of some new spot light.

    • @joewilliams-un8vu
      @joewilliams-un8vu 6 годин тому +3

      That would be so satisfying to use

    • @sonicdml4175
      @sonicdml4175 6 годин тому +2

      Problem is it would have to be extremely overpowered in combat, which would mean how often you can use it would have to be limited

    • @sentientmustache8360
      @sentientmustache8360 6 годин тому +2

      @ just make it burn through rings faster whenever it enters combat, that way the fight becomes about winning as fast as possible before the form runs out and you are left vulnerable with zero rings in hand

  • @TheZetoBlade
    @TheZetoBlade 5 годин тому +19

    This was great. The story in particular I appreciate because it provides Shadow a path towards happiness. I don't want Shadow's character to live in tragedy. Shadow Generations provided Shadow with "closure" I guess, but it didn't give him a new status quo, just a contextualization of his goals. If Shadow is in the Frontiers sequel than the one thing I want to see is a story that gives Shadow some much needed light in his life.

  • @Sanojavi512
    @Sanojavi512 7 годин тому +13

    This story has the perfect tone for a Sonic game, character development, action set pieces, just the right amount of call backs to previous material, the big scale, new locations, lore drops that add to the old material instead of replacing it, and most importantly, a sick-ass transformation scene at the end.
    You did an awesome job taking what people like about Sonic and making something fresh within the realm of possibility, incredible video.

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  7 годин тому +3

      Thank you! I love Sonic too so this was definitely a passion project

  • @AYTM1200
    @AYTM1200 3 години тому +6

    Me: Sees the thumbnail and is reminded of an awesome Sonic Adventure 3 video I watched some time back, then looks at the creator and remembers it's the same guy 😂😂😂😂.
    A new video tackling Sonic Frontiers 2 is exactly what I needed.

  • @Tobito-
    @Tobito- 2 години тому +3

    ok so wow just wow this writing is amazing i cant describe with words how good it is i pray sega uses this and hires you as a writer, this is amazing the only nitpick i have is no silver

  • @YAJORDO
    @YAJORDO 3 години тому +6

    Man I like this story fr, I hope they take some inspiration from it brodie

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  2 години тому +2

      Thank you 🙏

  • @Mega-Bits
    @Mega-Bits Годину тому +1

    I really like the teams idea, however I would change up some of the characters. I personally would have the teams be…
    Teams Sonic:
    Sonic
    Tails
    Knuckles
    Amy
    Blaze
    Tangle
    Surge (Begrudgingly joins the team after an encounter with Shadow that nearly kills her)
    Team Shadow:
    Shadow
    Rouge
    Omega
    Gemerl (Since he is a gizoid and all the lore Shadow has with gizoids)
    Cream (Gemerl wants to save her. Would also provide Shadow with a character with child-like wonder and optimism, not unlike Maria)
    Sage
    Whisper (provides a really interesting story of learning to trust Shadow after the Shadow androids killed the original Diamond Cutters)

  • @TheGamerninja15
    @TheGamerninja15 2 години тому

    Okay, can I just say that seeing the return of Hyper Sonic since 1994 and seeing the first appearance of Hyper Shadow was BREATHTAKING to say the least in this pitch for a PERFECT sequel to the best Sonic game after a heap of mid and trash, and I REALLY love how you gave an explanation as to how the hyper forms came back after so long, WITHOUT the Super Emeralds, and the answer was in front of us the whole time...
    *The Master Emerald...*

  • @EthanMallonee
    @EthanMallonee 8 годин тому +16

    I was dubious of the "Sonic doubt" arc, but the payoff was perfection, well done.
    I feel like this is a little too ambitious (gameplay-wise) for a direct sequel to Frontiers but I'd love to see something this scale eventually come from Sonic Team.

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  7 годин тому +5

      Yeah I know people are very picky about Sonic being the forever optimist, but I think that's best showcased when we see him struggle and overcome it. I won't please everybody, but that's ok. and yeah it's definitely a wishlist lol. Frontiers 2 will NOT be this crazy

  • @ShadowNinja375
    @ShadowNinja375 4 години тому +3

    This was Insane man. I love how both protags were developing at the same time. Sonic and shadow are my favorite characters so this was extra special for me. Love how a lot of the lore tied in with this. Love stuff like paralleling this to SA2. I’d maybe do more or change some characters around, but thats literally just me. Because this project was so good, my only thing would be maybe to make a few more games that lead into the events of this one. Love the characterization of shadow, especially you choosing to include that fist bump at the end. Again man, awesome job. You put a lot of hard work and thought into this, so not only have you got a sub, but I’d definitely love to see more of your ideas in the future. I’d be so amazed if some of this happened in a future game. Again, awesome job.
    (This game would definitely need Live and Learn playing in its finale)

  • @UDS-3DS
    @UDS-3DS 2 години тому +3

    this is one of the rare moments when a youtuber asks for me to like and subscribe and I actually do. You are very creative and I wont be shocked if SEGA actually does this. keep making these videos.

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  2 години тому +2

      I very much appreciate it!

  • @thesonicgod55
    @thesonicgod55 5 годин тому +6

    Get this man in the writing team now

  • @autisonm
    @autisonm 2 години тому +1

    Personally I'd like a game where Infinite (whos still alive I think?) is still really bitter about his defeat and is sorta losing his mind which allows The End to manipulate him into finding the Phantom Ruby again and bringing it into the Cyber Space in order to start fusing it with Earth, essentially imprisoning all living beings in cyber corruption like we saw with Sonic, except for Sage who is mostly unaffected but now tangible due to the partial merge. She watches in a moment of temporary weakness as Infinite appears in Dr. Eggman's lab and kidnaps him, completely unaware Sage was there.
    Sage knows Infinite is too strong with the Phantom Ruby for her to fight alone but she instantly surmises that Sonic and co are also likely frozen similar to Eggman. She realizes she only has one option for an ally strong enough to defeat Infinite, and thus she goes to activate Metal Sonic who has been upgraded into his Neo Metal form.
    The two of them go out into the world to explore and Sage picks up two different energy readings growing in size correlating to where this game's would be Team Hero and Team Dark are respectively. You then get to choose which one you go to, locking you into one path or the other. Neither team would have Sonic or Shadow. I kinda want to keep them for later.
    After an action stage that has you travel to the area Sage and Metal discover that the energy reading is coming from an "anchor" that is slowly corrupting the open area more and more. when you destroy the anchor the area returns to normal and the characters are freed from their cyber corruption.
    This loop kinda repeats with more characters like Tangle and Whisper showing up for Team Hero and Team Dark gets Surge and Kitsunami.
    I'm not sure how I want the game to end but I think what I already typed would make for an amazing game.

  • @datonebigguy
    @datonebigguy 7 годин тому +12

    Hold up... his writing is low-key fire..

  • @Northern_Seal
    @Northern_Seal 7 годин тому +12

    if shadows in the game we will get at least 58 maria flash backs

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  7 годин тому +6

      58 MINIMUM

  • @thunderx456
    @thunderx456 6 годин тому +5

    59:45 TAKE MY MONEY

  • @Ianmclaughlin-d3m
    @Ianmclaughlin-d3m 4 години тому +1

    I have a lot to say.... I loved every minute of it the dialogue, the character interactions, everything. I had the biggest smile on my face the entire time while watching this. And the inclusion of the hyper forms I was shocked. I really hope Sega brings them back. I also agree that the hyper forms should be used very rarely. I can tell you put a lot of work into this and because of that I think that you just created the best sonic game keep the great work.

  • @henrymalloy1344
    @henrymalloy1344 43 хвилини тому

    i'd love this as an actual game, unfortunatly gun was disbanded by eggman during forces, but you could always just say they came back. 28:25 metal sonic: am i a joke too you?

  • @Jojo-rq3rl
    @Jojo-rq3rl 7 годин тому +10

    Bro Siver SERIOUSLY needs some redemption

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  6 годин тому +7

      I got a whole video cooking about how to put Silver on the fast track to main character again. Probably coming out in April

    • @LancelotGraCro
      @LancelotGraCro 3 години тому

      ​@@BWHEREwe're so eating in 2025 💪

  • @elliotsturtplus340
    @elliotsturtplus340 3 години тому

    Quick nitpick but Blaze was already considered cannon because of Sonic rush and 06 even if it was erased from the cannon and that’s the same with Gemeral but still I like that idea
    Also the reason why the IDW comics follow the lore closely is because Izuka confirmed that the IDW comics were canon too the game series along with prime so technically for instance tangle and surge would already be acquainted with sonic by that point since IDW takes place between forces and frontiers

  • @quickgaming1179
    @quickgaming1179 3 години тому

    I’d love the idea. I have a great idea for another game: A game focused on a custom character that is similar to Shadow Generations (with the 2d and 3d levels). This game could let you create your own custom characters that will take on either a new story or some of the previous stories putting your characters into certain roles and you could take on the stories in certain orders. For instance, you could take on the story of Sonic Heroes with your characters, then take on the story of Sonic Adventure with your characters. There would be about like 6 or 7 story modes you can play through. This would probably be smaller game released in the middle of the year.

  • @Choimesy
    @Choimesy 41 хвилина тому

    If I had to make a Frontiers 2 I’d make it more 06 centered. They’re want to remaster 06 but why not just change the backstory, I would include a character swap to swap between Sonic, Shadow, and Silver (silver has a new map considering he’s in the future) and it’d be sorta like Spiderman 2 where you could swap anytime you want

  • @mrstickmantas
    @mrstickmantas 4 години тому +3

    Hmmm
    SOMEONE COOKED HERE

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 4 години тому

    Before continuing, I have two big ideas for a Sonic-centric game, BUT if we're following the lore from Frontiers 1 like SA2 did with SA1, I'll try to keep as few stuff from the other thing in this as I can.
    There'd be Five Open Zones, one saved for the Last Story, and the remaining four divided among Two stories.
    The Hero Campaign would center around Sonic, Blaze, Amy, and Tails.
    The Dark Campaign would center around Sage, who'd play like an animation mashup of Frontiers' different enemies, alongside Dr.Eggman and two begrudging other characters: Shadow and Knuckles.
    The Plot/Lore: My idea doesn't go SUPER in detail, but it's an extension of the Frontiers lore. We now know where the Chaos Emeralds came from, but not Why all these gemstones(Master Emerald, Time Stones, Warp Topaz, and Phantom Ruby. Heck, even the Sol Emeralds if you want to link the two worlds even more together) even exist in the first place.
    Also, it'd delve into that lingering plot thread about the god of the Ancients.

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 4 години тому

    4:01 On the topic of bosses; the Titan fights still used the default combat. Super Sonic mainly added boosted power, durability, and most importantly; the power of Flight.
    What if the flying part was ditched for most of the bosses? For giant bosses, it could be about running around, weaving through attacks, and building up enough(I don't remember much science stuff so instead of momentum or inertia or whatever it's scientifically called, let's call it) Speed Energy, enabling Sonic to careen seemingly out of control and into the air, to deliver an absolutely DEVASTATING Spin Attack!

  • @OPEnderMan-e9r
    @OPEnderMan-e9r 4 години тому

    if they make a sonic frontiers 2 and that planet was just an avatar of the end then there is only one form that can stand a chance
    SEGA: He's BACK!!!!!!!!!!
    Hypersonic: alright I haven't been in this form ever since sonic 3 time to show the End who he is up against
    and if Hypersonic isn't enough then SEGA can make it so that Sonic can combine all his forms like, Hyper, Dark, Super, Ultra, Darkspine, Excalibur, Super sonic 2 (in some way), Prismatic sonic, Supersonic Fleetway, Werehog sonic, and I guess the wisps if those count as forms, but I would love to see that as fate is meant to be undefeatable so for sonic to do that would be CRAZY

  • @stevenanthony3644
    @stevenanthony3644 4 години тому

    36:35 this is very interesting. Sure, I have my own ideas for a possible sequel to frontiers and granted it’s nothing like what you’ve shown but it’s still amazing.

  • @zackchaozmaster
    @zackchaozmaster Годину тому

    playable chao in the garden mini games maybe more mini games but yeah I got no idea for 3thd one, or others

  • @drakosclipsvods5529
    @drakosclipsvods5529 8 годин тому +12

    hey, infinite is not written like a wooden plank... thats disrespectful to planky from ed, edd, and eddy. xp

  • @LikeableLevi
    @LikeableLevi 6 годин тому +4

    Give me more GIVE me more GIVE ME more GIVE ME MORE
    -sonic team

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  6 годин тому +2

      Tell them to hire me lol

    • @LikeableLevi
      @LikeableLevi 11 хвилин тому

      Brooooo I literally decided to try to make a sonic game too because of you
      And I’m thinking the game should be sonic beloved life

  • @maxiamjustarandommediafan0409
    @maxiamjustarandommediafan0409 10 хвилин тому

    Someone show this video to Sega NOW!!!! OR ELSE YOU GET CHAOS BLASTED INTO THE SUN!!!

  • @1ario15
    @1ario15 19 хвилин тому

    If only Nintendo can stop being lazy with Mario and Kirby final bosses unlike Sega does with Sonic, also I got the perfect video idea: What if Meta Knight had his own transformations (but not the abilities Kirby gets when he sucks up enemies to gain there powers, I mean actual transformations with his own powers that are unique/accurate)

  • @simpgod2170
    @simpgod2170 2 години тому

    Nice video, but personally I would replace surge with silver since she doesn't seem the type to fight with people who associate with sonic. Especially people like meta and shadow who looks like him. Also, if silver replace surge than you can include characters....burning blaze and super silver tag team fight, just to remind players sonic and shadow don't have to carry the whole team lol

  • @CharaIsNotEvil
    @CharaIsNotEvil 2 години тому +1

    6:12 Hey man, sorry to burst your bubble, but Sticks is not canon to the Sonic lore. Japanese Sonic Frontiers dialogue confirms this.

  • @scottholland2814
    @scottholland2814 6 годин тому +1

    So I had thought of something with someone else on Reddit having this game being a Metal sonic more focused one. Like your two stories it would be one side being sonic and the other being metal sonic. With a beat ‘em up and puzzle solving type game where they both get more abilities and powers as the game goes on, each unique to the characters. This is to utilize Metal’s bio data copying and Sonics natural talent to just be a badass. There would be different bosses, for each character and two bosses where one is base Metal vs Sonic and then Super Neo Metal vs Super sonic. There will be two final bosses for the stories and each story would end with super sonic and metal overlord charging at each other and that would end the game and the next game would start where that game ended to give them a finish to what happened last time and being in something new.

  • @JT_Toons
    @JT_Toons 2 години тому

    I would love to bring back the custom avatar for a online mode i just hope they get another chance.

  • @muanims
    @muanims 3 години тому

    Wonder if shadow gens coming out and the reveals about black doom himself being revived via the larva affects this video alil? Because i wouldnt be surprised if doom can play an actual part in the story,as long as the black arms exist so will doom,maybe he can be within shadow,he cant take over his body but hes a voice that always exists.

  • @DylanIsChillin08
    @DylanIsChillin08 6 годин тому +1

    This game would go so hard

  • @lyrikhasdied
    @lyrikhasdied 5 годин тому

    I kinda expect the next game to go into the master emeralds lore, it just makes sense

  • @BootlegGremlin
    @BootlegGremlin 6 годин тому +2

    This is hella fanficy but i genuinely like the story.

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  5 годин тому +1

      I’ll take it, thanks

  • @Tyler-wx8bx
    @Tyler-wx8bx 2 години тому

    I think infinite would finnaly accept he’s not the strongest so he helps shadow so he can learn his strategies and beat him in the future as he becomes the shadow to well… shadow.

  • @EthanMallonee
    @EthanMallonee 8 годин тому +6

    48:13 say that again

    • @EthanMallonee
      @EthanMallonee 8 годин тому +2

      No joke, my headphones broke directly after this comment

    • @Maxjb1242
      @Maxjb1242 7 годин тому +1

      @@EthanMallonee”to a hawk to a serpent” is crazy

  • @Trontato
    @Trontato 5 годин тому

    I would like to add silver as one of the playable characters mainly because hes my favorite hedgehog

  • @YPhilou
    @YPhilou 7 годин тому +1

    this story would explain why there's remains of echidna temples in the sonic adventure 2 desert map

  • @quinjet6446
    @quinjet6446 Годину тому

    I would play the hell out of this game of it were real

  • @LoganWhite-u3u
    @LoganWhite-u3u 2 години тому

    Sega if you see this you could probably make millions from this idea by making this a game.

  • @Kirbyguypopo
    @Kirbyguypopo Годину тому

    I wish you could of had super kuckles

  • @TherealXotwo
    @TherealXotwo 4 години тому

    10:00 no they are not extinct watch till 10:06 because it's like why because I would understand if this was written before Sonic X Shadow Generation dropped and showed that black Doom was actually still alive but bro he is still alive so we could use the black arms instead of the proposed creature race or whatever

    • @TherealXotwo
      @TherealXotwo 3 години тому

      Sorry I got it wrong I forgot he did destroy black Doom in Sonic X Shadow

  • @zackchaozmaster
    @zackchaozmaster Годину тому

    gruncul Shadow

  • @Chillblackcat
    @Chillblackcat 10 годин тому +3

    Hello 👋

  • @DaveMan1K
    @DaveMan1K 7 годин тому +3

    6:08
    IDW doesn't fit the games. It was never meant to. It was just _declared_ so years after establishing. Also I've played Frontiers countless times and have never triggered any of those lines.
    If those characters were to be brought into the games, they'll need new backstories to better introduce them, as a lot of casual fans don't read IDW.

    • @thunderx456
      @thunderx456 6 годин тому +3

      Not only are the IDW comics canon, but they were written with the intention of being as close to the games as possible. The characters wouldn't need to have newer backstories, they'd just need to be reintroduced like the Chaotix in Heroes.

    • @DaveMan1K
      @DaveMan1K 6 годин тому

      @thunderx456
      No. They were _declared_ canon in 2022, years after establishing. They have too much baggage to be brought over. The character portrayals of Sonic, Amy, Shadow and the like also don't match the games.
      It's the same story with Sonic Prime. Remember that?
      Plus Japan gets the comics later than we do, so the audience there would be completely lost if anything is brought over without altering it to fit the games.

    • @connorschultz380
      @connorschultz380 4 години тому +1

      ​@@DaveMan1K for one all the character personalities were mandated by sega, sorry if you feel there out of character Sega asked for them to act that way.
      For second, yes absolutely from the start the plan for the comics were to be as close to canon as possible it just wasn't declared canon until later.

    • @DaveMan1K
      @DaveMan1K 3 години тому

      @connorschultz380
      Compare game Shadow to IDW Shadow. They're not the same character.
      So we're supposed to believe that a massive Restoration was formed, Angel Island was invaded, Eggman became a pacifist, and a world-ending virus was released, ALL before the events of Frontiers (add on an entire island of Badniks since the comic hasn't adapted Frontiers yet), and yet not a single mention was given to ANY of it in a game that references even the most recent game prior to its release (which came out after IDW)?
      I'm sorry, but it doesn't work like that. You want something to be canon, you must build it around the canon, not just say "Oh yeah, it's canon" and expect everyone to accept it. Cause again, not a lot of people read IDW, so they'll be very lost if anything is brought over.

    • @connorschultz380
      @connorschultz380 3 години тому

      ​​@@DaveMan1K excuse me? How dose a lack of "o man these tin cans remind me of the metal virus somehow" prove it didn't happen? Your standards are wacky and I can't imagine anyone else having them
      Nothing in frontiers gives a time table for how long it's been we literally don't see the mainland at all, All that matters is that the main characters are still around

  • @kowabonga3552
    @kowabonga3552 2 години тому +1

    If Silver is not playable, i'm NOT interested and I WON'T buy it.

  • @whitebaer8171
    @whitebaer8171 23 хвилини тому

    Can this be the first game with hyper Sega?

  • @superfnafdude2freddyland397
    @superfnafdude2freddyland397 Годину тому

    What the heck!? 36:25

  • @charleswolfe8896
    @charleswolfe8896 5 годин тому

    Is scarf the morph supposed to resemble a wolf or a Fox?

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  4 години тому +1

      Wolf! I flubbed the line and said fox later in the video. But his actual name is Scarf the Morph.

    • @charleswolfe8896
      @charleswolfe8896 14 хвилин тому

      @BWHERE also you stole my idea of Eggman making his own ultimate life form. Lol

  • @CamNelz
    @CamNelz 10 годин тому +2

    Hi

  • @Landnonger
    @Landnonger 7 годин тому +1

    Why whisper for shadow’s team

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  7 годин тому +2

      I think watching her work alongside Surge and Infinite would be really fun because they hate each other.

  • @altlol3794
    @altlol3794 3 години тому

    Shadow down bad for the latinas

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  2 години тому +1

      It’s the chaos energy

    • @altlol3794
      @altlol3794 2 години тому

      @BWHERE dude I just finished the video and although I've seen the supposed leaks for frontiers 2 this is some fire shit the way to bring back hyper sonic would actually make sense but I feel as if this could genuinely happen if you do what the mania team did and got it pitched by sega to become an official game

  • @Swagsire_
    @Swagsire_ 3 години тому

    48:13

  • @Crungal-w2y
    @Crungal-w2y 4 години тому

    48:13 to a what? 🤨

    • @BWHERE
      @BWHERE  2 години тому +1

      🦅2️⃣🅰️

  • @Tobito-
    @Tobito- 6 годин тому

    sega said if frontiers did good they would consider adventure 3 and i want that but with no janky spindash play like shadow gens and has multiple teams to pick for stories

    • @Tobito-
      @Tobito- 6 годин тому

      a silver team too

  • @DOYOUGOTGAMEONYOURPHONE
    @DOYOUGOTGAMEONYOURPHONE 8 годин тому +2

    apparently on a very viable document that leaks The next sonic game with the working title frontiers two it apparently takes place on a island related to angel Island called the summit spire

    • @arieson7715
      @arieson7715 5 годин тому

      Source: Some guy on 4chan.
      (Two guys on 4chan, actually.)

  • @Stickpickofficial2323
    @Stickpickofficial2323 8 годин тому

    Hi